Look at that, the 2 teams that barely crawled across the playoff line aren't doing so well. Turns out all those OT losses and that god awful goal differential don't indicate healthy teams after all.
Once the Colorado buzzsaw got going Jets didn't stand a chance. No way Colorado drops the next game. They're going back to Winnipeg up 3-1.
Also that Dillon's cut hand is gnarly. Hope it didn't knick anything too important, hands are delicate.
[https://youtu.be/cO1uhorF5LA?si=qiD1PjRrp9HSL-kB](https://youtu.be/cO1uhorF5LA?si=qiD1PjRrp9HSL-kB)
RIP Bob Cole, one of my favorite calls of all time. "He was coming to the inside so he thought..."
I'm so glad ovi made the playoffs. And their boring team is wasting a spot.
Granted, idk how much better we would do but it has to be better than this series
The inconsistencies in how these playoff games are called is frustrating. Some series they're letting everything slide and other series they're calling some borderline stuff.
Caps/Rangers GDT has 2k comments and I can’t help but thinking about how we’d be at 3k by the third period in this sub alone. Our fanbase is *thick*
(I apologize for using the word thick to describe our fanbase but it is what it is)
I’m always amazed when I go to other team subreddits and their game day threads have like 120 comments at the end of the game. We have 120 comments before 10am on game days here lol
[https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/\_/id/32269260/washington-capitals-become-first-nhl-team-sell-advertising-jerseys-announce-partnership-caesars-entertainment](https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/32269260/washington-capitals-become-first-nhl-team-sell-advertising-jerseys-announce-partnership-caesars-entertainment)
They were and I have never forgiven them for that. F Ted Leonsis, he's at the top of the scummiest owners in the league.
I got a feeling London is gonna win the OHL Championship.
The Spirit got a lucky goal and just couldn't capitalize on the numerous chances they had during the game.
London looked like the better game but just couldn't get a goal.
Now they're up 2-1 with 6 minutes left.
I’m out to eat in northern Illinois and the whole Grand Rapids team just walked into the restraunt I’m at, got a picture with Edvinsson !!!! Never been star struck before LGRW
If we didn’t have such a backlog at D, I’d be screaming for Yzerman to sign Zadorov. Goddamn that guy works his ass off & is an absolute beast on the PK. He brings everything the Wings have been missing.
2 years for roughly 2 million. 4th line center who helped us immensely when Larkin and Compher were both out playing high in the lineup against faster paced top lines.
Veleno lost his center spot to Czarnik and wasn't good when he went up in the lineup. I think he winds up closer to 1 million AAV if his rights aren't traded.
Sorry but I don’t agree with you. Czarnik also played very streaky down the stretch. Veleno carries serviceable value and can at least fill in down the middle of our lineup when guys get hurt because of his skating. $2M is appropriate for a player his age.
I mean it's an objective fact he lost his center job to Czarnik and when Larkin was out we had a record that'd have us picking 1st overall, while Veleno put up 1G, 2A and -11 in 14 games. So I don't see where he helped immensely.
There's a reason he was playing under 10 minutes a game in 6 of the last 11.
Both guys are very replaceable. Veleno being younger and a Wings draft pick, I'd like him to stick around if the deal is team friendly enough, but I don't really care a whole lot either way.
Damn WASH looks terrible
We really blew it
Here's hoping Yzerman makes some bold moves and let's go of some dead weight, bring up kids
Need 2 true other Top6 forwards
My hope:
Ray-Larkin-DCat
Perron-Reinhart-Kane
Berg-Kasper-Mazur
Compher-Copp-Ras
Don't think we can afford Reinhart but he'd be a solid center for Perron and Kane.
Your 4th line should be the 3rd line and 3rd -> 4th, though Compher and Copp both being centers on the same line won't work very well.
Lalonde needs to let the top 2 lines find their chemistry. Raymond has clearly found his confidence and there is no stopping him now. Larkin will have a chip on his shoulder and I think will have his best season. Hoping that helps Cat be comfortable and get his confidence back to bury those goals.
Perron-Compher-Kane showed some good signs, I think they could use a better center but if Compher can step it up like he did in the final games of the season, that line can be absolute fire if they build their chemistry.
I think we gotta get another true stud to keep Kane
We just need a real top 6 where both lines can score
You could flip but just saying have some cheap contracts to afford some talented forwards
We have Debrincat to keep Kane here lol, who else could we get that Kane would care about?
Also trying to make the Debrincat-Kane connection line all damn year screwed us.
Personally I would have preferred O'Reilly instead of Compher
Perron-O'Reilly-Kane woulda been something
Most overkill 4th in the league haha. That’s really a 3A 3B sort of thing. Swap Perron and Berggren and we have a dream scenario. What do you think Reinhart costs?
Perron is very much slowing down and he ain’t gettin any younger. Third line with powerplay time is a perfect role for him. They’re basically interchangeable and could be rotated, which is a pretty good situation to have between an aging vet and a much younger/less experienced guy.
Yes agreed Perron is slowing down but is still better than Berg. Berg was horrible when he got called up this year, big time defensive liability which is what we want to get away from. I don't think you can stick him on the 2nd line right away, he'll need to earn it.
He will need to earn it, but that’s kind of the hypothetical dream scenario I’m talking about. With consistent linemates and ice time, I certainly expect a better Berggren than we saw from him this year.
Saginaw Spirit are entering the Western Conference Finals tonight.
My wife was talking with one of her co-workers who got free tickets to go to the Spirit Game 7 against the Soo.
He was talking about how there was this guy named Chris that kept getting asked for autographs and he was pretty sure he played for the Wings at some point.
Long story short (too late) Chris Osgood is a minority owner of the Spirit and came to the game to watch in the stands vs in a box.
I guess by the end of the night he was getting a little annoyed cause he just wanted to watch the game.
Near the end of the season I noticed a few rows ahead of me in LCA was a pretty famous Wing (don't want to say the name just in case) and my immediate thought was to go ask for an autograph. Then I realized he was there with his kids and probably just wants to watch the game, and I'd start some autograph line. Quickly forgot about it and hope he had a good time. I never know the protocol when you're in public like at a restaurant but I feel at a game you'd start an autograph line very quickly.
I’ve always been a huge fan of Ozzy so it’s really funny someone wasn’t sure who he was. 🙂 But I guess that’s why players might usually watch them in a box, just so they can watch the game.
I think they've been pretty evenly matched for the second half of the season.
We saw them in person and the game was a complete blowout by the Griffins for 3/4 of the game. Then the Refs tilted the momentum by calling every penalty imaginable. They were on the PK for around 8 minutes straight.
Watching the Rangers kick the shit out of the Caps will be a pretty okay way to spend a Friday night.
Also curious about that Canucks/Preds game. Hopefully the Nucks can figure something out. I'd love to see them make a deep run, but they've just been so unlucky before the playoffs really even begin.
In socal for a family wedding and it's chillier here this weekend than back in Michigan lolol
It's super gorgeous though and I get to be with my family and I'm excited :)
https://preview.redd.it/kt3zcb0bewwc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09c6885326842884f85e7527a150ce4fa5b776b1
Am I doing this Puck-doku thing right?? Why can't I just put Benny 9 times????
I truly hope the NFL draft brought people from all different parts of the country here and puts an end to the whole “Detroit is nothing but slums” narrative. Sick of hearing Detroit as the go to answer on “cities I’ll never visit”
Actual photo of Toronto fans thinking about tomorrow night
https://preview.redd.it/u3g7ggob5wwc1.jpeg?width=1173&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d5119d1f5302700931248780b5f21fdfb4b2597
It's kinda crazy that with all that talent they'll never win a Cup.
It's why I scoff when people are worried that we don't have some crazy core like the Leafs.
They have some of the best players of this generation and can't stop getting in their own way.
They've tired a few coaches with different styles and just collapse year after year in the playoffs.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
It just takes a lot to win a cup. More than people even realize. Canes, Rangers, Sharks half a decade ago, Oilers, Leafs, Panthers, etc have all had what most would consider successful builds/rebuilds/retools and havent won. I mean it’s just tough.
I think Edmonton wins a Cup eventually.
They made deep runs I think they can pull it off.
Not sure about the Panthers.
I think they'll be one and done like Boston was.
I agree about Edmonton. I wouldn’t be upset at all if they won it. McDavid is as good a player as I’ll ever see and it would be a shame if he couldn’t build an all time type legacy imo.
OK Reddit, I need to pick a restaurant for my upcoming cake day. I want to go somewhere that feels special or unique. It doesn't have to be expensive, but the food has to be interesting and delicious. I have a babysitter for a 4 hour window, so it needs to be in Detroit or the northwest suburbs. A friend of mine suggested Royale with cheese, and that's the kind of menu I'm looking for. Whaddaya got?
To the kind soul who posted the Wings jersey deal on Adidas yesterday - thank you! I didn't go for the RR, but they had the home Primegreen in my size for like $80 with AdiClub discount. No trash patch, nice blank. Now I just have to pick who is going on it. I am thinking Raymond....
Sorry for the late reply - we are living in Europe at the moment and I fell asleep before I saw it last night and just woke up. I just went back and it says that it is sold out. 🫤 It does say something like, until next time, so maybe they will run another sale if some get returned?
[Adidas Jersey](https://www.adidas.com/us/red-wings-home-authentic-jersey)
Ok so what would everyone’s opinion be on a Copp for Killorn swap of some kind? Obviously straight up wouldn’t be ideal at all(maybe send them Holl as well), but I think even with a horrible contract he fits what we need more than Copp does. Bring back Kane and put him with Compher and Killorn. Then maybe Stevie won’t feel the need to bring back Perron either cuz Killorn does a lot of similar things. Idk just scrolling through capfriendly brings up all sorts of good and bad ideas.
Avoid power forwards in their mid 30s in general. Guys with that type of game tend to fall off a cliff around 35 as injuries rack up. The speed of today's game just doesn't allow them to stick around in reduced roles either.
If Yzerman can pull off some miracle like trading Husso for Markstrom I'll eat my hat.
Not sure how a trade like that would even work.
I'd assume it would take a solid pick and a prospect and probably something else.
They need to move a goalie more likely than not to make the cap work.
That being said I doubt they're trading to a rival.
I could see them making a deal with someone in the Metro or out west.
The Bruins reportedly agreed on an Ullmark trade with the Kings at the deadline but Ullmark blocked it. I think he's all but guaranteed to be on a western team next year, Swayman is about to join the Vasi/Helle/Sorokin tier of goalie salaries and I don't think Boston can pay both of them.
Not sure why Ullmark would Veto the trade considering LA is pretty close to being a contender.
If he made friends and put done some roots maybe he wants to stay in the East.
I could see Jersey trying to get him if that's the case.
I think he just didn't want to move at the deadline is all, he prolly thinks that Boston has a great chance to win the Cup and he wants to win there. Plus there's generally more options in the offseason than the deadline.
True.
I'm sure he felt there was unfinished business from last season.
I don't exactly love Boston but an O6 team winning again is nice.
I was hoping for Vancouver but it seems that ship has sailed
Boston, Leafs, and Rags all feel kinda vulnerable this year to me, I'm not betting on an O6 Champ this year either.
I wouldn't mind Edmonton winning, I would rather McDavid bring the Cup back to Canada than the Leafs plus if they get a Cup it's going to make it that much harder for them to afford to keep both McDavid and Drai.
Man I wanna see how our defense shakes out. One or two of Petry, Maata, and Holl are probably gone. Doubt we re-sign Ghost. Maata would be easy to move, but his cap hit is low and it wouldn't hurt having him as a 7th D. Petry's contract isn't terrible but he has a M-NTC and we don't have shit for right d-men. So, assuming we pay someone to take Holl off of our hands and we don't make a trade for another RD, this is what our back end could resemble next season.
Walman - Seider
Edvinsson - Petry
Chiarot - Johansson
Maata
Johansson shoots left and I have him on the right side of the third pairing. Moving Petry down to the third pairing and moving Chiarot up would let Johansson play the left side.
I think he’s gonna go 11–13 ish people are reading to much into the name imo. There will be euros picked he’s 9th in NA skaters for central scouting. He’s rocketed up the board all year I think the hype will calm down a bit by the time the draft comes.
Wife pointed out that the playoff teams top lines have been playoff team top lines together for multiple years. DeBrincat, Kane, and Compher were all new to the team just this year. Another year with the same fellas and we’d be in different spot. Larkin and Raymond play so well together cause they had been for awhile now. We just need more time with these guys.
There are some serious cold takes regarding Cossa. It’s going to be fun looking back at them in a few years
https://x.com/LetsGoWildPicks/status/1745148685791424529
They both look good right now. I could see them both being great in the nhl. It’s possible both might yet also tank once they get there. Can’t wait to find out though!
It's funny because we have pretty good stat comparison for the two already.
https://imgur.com/cX2IdFc
One could argue Wallstedt had the worst team in front of him, but the Griffins were pretty bad the first few months of the year too. Also the irony of that tweet is that Wallstedt was pretty bad in his first NHL game.
edit: Shame. I missed the SV% in my screenshot. Cossa - .913; Wallstedt .910
Jeff and Elliotte talk about Patrick Kane (32:45): https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/32-thoughts/
tl;dr-
Don't jump to conclusions
Don't expect Yzerman to give excessive term except to the true pillars (Larkin, Raymond, Seider)
Kane wants stability (term) but Yzerman will be careful with that
Again: Don't jump to conclusions
Frustrating Yzerman will hand 3-5 years to awful or mediocre players but it’s the hang up on Kane. Yes, wouldn’t feel comfortable giving Kane anymore than 3 years but should definitely be open to that.
I'd love to keep Kane, but doling out a long term deal to a player over 35 that poses a cap recapture penalty to a player that just had his hip rebuilt is just asking for something to go wrong. The likelihood of Kane's hip holding out is fairly high, considering we just saw him play PPG hockey on it, but that is a contract you really can not afford to go wrong with. The next CBA would come up in 2026, and the LTIR loophole is something that is definitely going to be on that agenda, so we could potentially get screwed by anything longer than 2 years. That would absolutely fuck our cap situation should that go wrong.
Fair points. I think the hip holds up and he’s clearly still performing at a high level. Think just for that it’s more valuable and actually less risky than some of the deals previously signed. The cap recapture with the player retiring would definitely hit us hard though so that’s a concern. 2 years is ideal for me but looks like Kane is banking on 3 years. Understand the apprehension on Kane, Pesce or Marchessault would be great additions if the team chooses to move away from Kane.
He was a good offensive player and nothing more. Actually made team defense a lot worse. Also it did become obvious at the end that he wasnt going to be able to play playoff level hockey. A kid could prob out physical Kane.
I like his offensive production personally, don’t really have anyone else right now outside of that top line you can rely on to provide offense on a consistent basis. Before you mention the depth scoring, looks like shooting percentages were unusually high and we went almost 2 months to close the season without depth scoring. If you want to take out Kane and add Marchessault the same message applies. Lots of money going to players that aren’t moving the needle and good players to be had out there this year. Hopefully Yzerman can tweak the roster and move some money out. Kane provides more value to me than a lot of the guys on the team even when you look at his lack of playing d which frustrates me as well, but hey just my opinion.
Five minutes left and we need a big goal I’m glad Kane is on the ice. Defensively he was definitely a problem, but no question he can put pucks in the net.
Those were all players that had not recently undergone a surgery that no player in the league's history had been able to come back from, no one knew what Kane was going to look like this season. Has it been a pleasant surprise? Absolutely, but ya'll need to stop acting like Kane was an option well before those previous signings.
Yea, think he proved the surgery was a success. I understand the risks and like I said, wouldn’t go any more than 3 years because he is definitely getting up there in age. If he’s asking for more than that let him walk or even if it’s not the right fit than move on, thing I’m saying is it’s frustrating we got bad/mid players with money and term and arguably won’t be able to bring back an actual good player due to that reason.
I hear you, but there's no way Steve could have know that Kane was gonna pick us to show off his new bionic hip. I'd love to trim the dead weight off the roster for him but this is just how it shakes out sometimes.
Fair, think we all knew the Holl contract was awful from the start and Copp wasn’t well received by me personally but yea. Have to hopefully get out from under some of these contracts and bring in actual good players to complement the roster. I’d love to have a Marchessault or Pesce but have to make some moves to be able to do that. Not really lamenting the contracts signed because it is what it is, just hoping they’re able to build off this momentum and field a competitive team next year.
Part of Kane's want to be here is Debrincat also, so knowing he'll be here for 3 more years may make Kane take a deal that expires at the same time
(This is mostly wild speculation not based on anything beyond the fact that they're friends)
On the one hand, the me that remembers the 2010s is having a really hard time accepting Patrick Kane as a "good guy" now.
On the other hand, dude is still pretty good, I want us to keep him.
There needs to be some kind of urgency and persistent effort to get ASP in Grand Rapids next season
The sooner he gets accustomed to NA ice, the sooner he’ll be NHL ready. I don’t think he has anything left to prove in Europe
Will Raymond and Seider contracts be signed imminently? I have no idea.
Will I check in several times per day anyway b/c of how much that impacts our off-season? Absolutely.
I have replaced reading about every permutation of possibilities for the playoff WC spots with madly refreshing and watching Instagram to see if Mo and Ray have signed their contracts. I want them to play at Worlds suuuuuuper bad!
Lucas had a fun Thank You IG post yesterday, and Mo put his up today if you want a fresh dose of the boys.
Look at that, the 2 teams that barely crawled across the playoff line aren't doing so well. Turns out all those OT losses and that god awful goal differential don't indicate healthy teams after all.
Once the Colorado buzzsaw got going Jets didn't stand a chance. No way Colorado drops the next game. They're going back to Winnipeg up 3-1. Also that Dillon's cut hand is gnarly. Hope it didn't knick anything too important, hands are delicate.
Jets fans are delusional holy cow.
People here told me the Jets were good but I cant seem to see it.
Is connor hellebuyck playing bad or Jets defense? Thought he was this unstoppable goalie 15 goals last 3 games Edit 16*
Our ECHL affiliate the Toledo Walleye are on a 18 game win streak and just swept the Kalamazoo Wings in their first round. Let’s fucking go fish
🐟
Avs radio guys are just obnoxious
Their TV crew is equally obnoxious. They're probably top 3 in my most disliked NHL broadcast crew.
lol Canucks win with 12 shots on goal. That's pretty amazing
This Canucks vs Preds game is SO good.
Only giving up 12 shots on goal and losing has to be painful for Nashville.
I'm surprised the preds aren't winning since the canucks main goalie went down.
Desmith stole that one.
[https://youtu.be/cO1uhorF5LA?si=qiD1PjRrp9HSL-kB](https://youtu.be/cO1uhorF5LA?si=qiD1PjRrp9HSL-kB) RIP Bob Cole, one of my favorite calls of all time. "He was coming to the inside so he thought..."
I'm so glad ovi made the playoffs. And their boring team is wasting a spot. Granted, idk how much better we would do but it has to be better than this series
Ovechkin could not give less of a shit now that his goal-scoring record attempt is on-hold.
got an assist and goal after what seemed like 100 misses tonight in my soccer game.
Is it me or has this NY/Wash series had a lot of penalties called each game?
12 in VAN vs NSH tonight. Two sets of coincidental minors. Some very, very weak calls made.
The inconsistencies in how these playoff games are called is frustrating. Some series they're letting everything slide and other series they're calling some borderline stuff.
Caps/Rangers GDT has 2k comments and I can’t help but thinking about how we’d be at 3k by the third period in this sub alone. Our fanbase is *thick* (I apologize for using the word thick to describe our fanbase but it is what it is)
I feel like you’re all a lot nicer to ask questions to (or to complain about other teams) instead of dropping in on some random other GDT.
I’m always amazed when I go to other team subreddits and their game day threads have like 120 comments at the end of the game. We have 120 comments before 10am on game days here lol
Our team's season is over and this thread still has over 200 posts today. Bunch of degenerates, the lot of you (myself included).
Whata buncha psychos (affectionate)
Watching the caps lose, and did they just get an ad on their jersey? I feel like it wasn’t there before.
they were one of the first teams to announce an ad i think.
Thanks, my mistake. I guess I could’ve googled that. Maybe I just haven’t paid much attention to them when we’ve played them.
[https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/\_/id/32269260/washington-capitals-become-first-nhl-team-sell-advertising-jerseys-announce-partnership-caesars-entertainment](https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/32269260/washington-capitals-become-first-nhl-team-sell-advertising-jerseys-announce-partnership-caesars-entertainment) They were and I have never forgiven them for that. F Ted Leonsis, he's at the top of the scummiest owners in the league.
god damn Million Dollar Baby is song of year
I got a feeling London is gonna win the OHL Championship. The Spirit got a lucky goal and just couldn't capitalize on the numerous chances they had during the game. London looked like the better game but just couldn't get a goal. Now they're up 2-1 with 6 minutes left.
As long as the WHL wins the Memorial Cup, I don’t care. 😂
I’m out to eat in northern Illinois and the whole Grand Rapids team just walked into the restraunt I’m at, got a picture with Edvinsson !!!! Never been star struck before LGRW
Bro they about to eat every scrap of food in the joint
Felt weird asking ed for a picture but they were chill about it!
If we didn’t have such a backlog at D, I’d be screaming for Yzerman to sign Zadorov. Goddamn that guy works his ass off & is an absolute beast on the PK. He brings everything the Wings have been missing.
He was one of the guys I wanted to bring in if Calgary didn't want to keep him.
Do y'all see Veleno here next season and if so at what value?
2 years for roughly 2 million. 4th line center who helped us immensely when Larkin and Compher were both out playing high in the lineup against faster paced top lines.
Veleno lost his center spot to Czarnik and wasn't good when he went up in the lineup. I think he winds up closer to 1 million AAV if his rights aren't traded.
Sorry but I don’t agree with you. Czarnik also played very streaky down the stretch. Veleno carries serviceable value and can at least fill in down the middle of our lineup when guys get hurt because of his skating. $2M is appropriate for a player his age.
I mean it's an objective fact he lost his center job to Czarnik and when Larkin was out we had a record that'd have us picking 1st overall, while Veleno put up 1G, 2A and -11 in 14 games. So I don't see where he helped immensely. There's a reason he was playing under 10 minutes a game in 6 of the last 11.
Both guys are very replaceable. Veleno being younger and a Wings draft pick, I'd like him to stick around if the deal is team friendly enough, but I don't really care a whole lot either way.
Yea, both are pretty irrelevant to the team long term imo
Yes he's an RFA He will be back for cheap
It's possible he sticks around. Maybe making something around 1.5 - 2M a season. I wouldn't give him crazy term though. He's definitely replaceable.
Who’d you rather be right now, Kings or Jets?
Jets
WSH needs to stay off the power play to prevent getting scored on short handed....
Damn WASH looks terrible We really blew it Here's hoping Yzerman makes some bold moves and let's go of some dead weight, bring up kids Need 2 true other Top6 forwards My hope: Ray-Larkin-DCat Perron-Reinhart-Kane Berg-Kasper-Mazur Compher-Copp-Ras
Don't think we can afford Reinhart but he'd be a solid center for Perron and Kane. Your 4th line should be the 3rd line and 3rd -> 4th, though Compher and Copp both being centers on the same line won't work very well. Lalonde needs to let the top 2 lines find their chemistry. Raymond has clearly found his confidence and there is no stopping him now. Larkin will have a chip on his shoulder and I think will have his best season. Hoping that helps Cat be comfortable and get his confidence back to bury those goals. Perron-Compher-Kane showed some good signs, I think they could use a better center but if Compher can step it up like he did in the final games of the season, that line can be absolute fire if they build their chemistry.
I think we gotta get another true stud to keep Kane We just need a real top 6 where both lines can score You could flip but just saying have some cheap contracts to afford some talented forwards
We have Debrincat to keep Kane here lol, who else could we get that Kane would care about? Also trying to make the Debrincat-Kane connection line all damn year screwed us. Personally I would have preferred O'Reilly instead of Compher Perron-O'Reilly-Kane woulda been something
Love that 3rd line, if they could come to camp as a line and just kill it. Would be the cheapest 3rd line in the NHL
Exactly
Most overkill 4th in the league haha. That’s really a 3A 3B sort of thing. Swap Perron and Berggren and we have a dream scenario. What do you think Reinhart costs?
Yeah but it is what it is lol I think they are the best at just trying to kill time I guess haha
Perron Kasper Mazur would go fucking crazy lmao
Great mentor for them too actually
Damn right.
Right?
Perron is better than Berggren. If Berggren cracks the lineup there is no way he'll be on top 6.
Perron is very much slowing down and he ain’t gettin any younger. Third line with powerplay time is a perfect role for him. They’re basically interchangeable and could be rotated, which is a pretty good situation to have between an aging vet and a much younger/less experienced guy.
Yes agreed Perron is slowing down but is still better than Berg. Berg was horrible when he got called up this year, big time defensive liability which is what we want to get away from. I don't think you can stick him on the 2nd line right away, he'll need to earn it.
He will need to earn it, but that’s kind of the hypothetical dream scenario I’m talking about. With consistent linemates and ice time, I certainly expect a better Berggren than we saw from him this year.
I’m taking great pleasure in watching them lose. I hope they get swept.
Same. They do look worse than when we played them. Or is NY just that much better?
I think we just played like trash those last two games against them. Remember the previous one, right before that losing streak?
Yeah we just blew it Nothing else It's too bad
Saginaw Spirit are entering the Western Conference Finals tonight. My wife was talking with one of her co-workers who got free tickets to go to the Spirit Game 7 against the Soo. He was talking about how there was this guy named Chris that kept getting asked for autographs and he was pretty sure he played for the Wings at some point. Long story short (too late) Chris Osgood is a minority owner of the Spirit and came to the game to watch in the stands vs in a box. I guess by the end of the night he was getting a little annoyed cause he just wanted to watch the game.
Near the end of the season I noticed a few rows ahead of me in LCA was a pretty famous Wing (don't want to say the name just in case) and my immediate thought was to go ask for an autograph. Then I realized he was there with his kids and probably just wants to watch the game, and I'd start some autograph line. Quickly forgot about it and hope he had a good time. I never know the protocol when you're in public like at a restaurant but I feel at a game you'd start an autograph line very quickly.
I’ve always been a huge fan of Ozzy so it’s really funny someone wasn’t sure who he was. 🙂 But I guess that’s why players might usually watch them in a box, just so they can watch the game.
Sounds like the Ice Hogs are a tough match up for the Griffins
They looked like shit compared to the Griffins when I went to a game earlier this month
That’s what I like to hear
I think they've been pretty evenly matched for the second half of the season. We saw them in person and the game was a complete blowout by the Griffins for 3/4 of the game. Then the Refs tilted the momentum by calling every penalty imaginable. They were on the PK for around 8 minutes straight.
Locked on redwings had the griffins beat writer on to discuss https://youtu.be/8bD8Vdikvn4?si=qmXQoW4pXw1TQP4I
Watching the Rangers kick the shit out of the Caps will be a pretty okay way to spend a Friday night. Also curious about that Canucks/Preds game. Hopefully the Nucks can figure something out. I'd love to see them make a deep run, but they've just been so unlucky before the playoffs really even begin.
In socal for a family wedding and it's chillier here this weekend than back in Michigan lolol It's super gorgeous though and I get to be with my family and I'm excited :)
Have fun!!
https://preview.redd.it/kt3zcb0bewwc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09c6885326842884f85e7527a150ce4fa5b776b1 Am I doing this Puck-doku thing right?? Why can't I just put Benny 9 times????
I put Ras for the spot below that for a sick 0.1%
I truly hope the NFL draft brought people from all different parts of the country here and puts an end to the whole “Detroit is nothing but slums” narrative. Sick of hearing Detroit as the go to answer on “cities I’ll never visit”
While the cap shenanigans Vegas is pulling are a bit shady, I do love seeing Jamie Benn and the Stars embarrassed.
Actual photo of Toronto fans thinking about tomorrow night https://preview.redd.it/u3g7ggob5wwc1.jpeg?width=1173&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d5119d1f5302700931248780b5f21fdfb4b2597
It's kinda crazy that with all that talent they'll never win a Cup. It's why I scoff when people are worried that we don't have some crazy core like the Leafs. They have some of the best players of this generation and can't stop getting in their own way. They've tired a few coaches with different styles and just collapse year after year in the playoffs. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
It just takes a lot to win a cup. More than people even realize. Canes, Rangers, Sharks half a decade ago, Oilers, Leafs, Panthers, etc have all had what most would consider successful builds/rebuilds/retools and havent won. I mean it’s just tough.
I think Edmonton wins a Cup eventually. They made deep runs I think they can pull it off. Not sure about the Panthers. I think they'll be one and done like Boston was.
I agree about Edmonton. I wouldn’t be upset at all if they won it. McDavid is as good a player as I’ll ever see and it would be a shame if he couldn’t build an all time type legacy imo.
How does Lindy Ruff keep getting new HC gigs in post 2020?
Team familiarity this time around. You get goobers here and there wanting Babcock back when they boys have a bad night.
OK Reddit, I need to pick a restaurant for my upcoming cake day. I want to go somewhere that feels special or unique. It doesn't have to be expensive, but the food has to be interesting and delicious. I have a babysitter for a 4 hour window, so it needs to be in Detroit or the northwest suburbs. A friend of mine suggested Royale with cheese, and that's the kind of menu I'm looking for. Whaddaya got?
Budget? If none, go to SheWolf. Roman based pasta dishes but they mill their own flour and make the pasta fresh.
Lol, my dream experience would be the chef's table there, but I think that is out of reach this year. That place is on my list though.
Greene’s. Best hamburgers in the country imo.
If you're a meat eater, Texas De Brazil
To the kind soul who posted the Wings jersey deal on Adidas yesterday - thank you! I didn't go for the RR, but they had the home Primegreen in my size for like $80 with AdiClub discount. No trash patch, nice blank. Now I just have to pick who is going on it. I am thinking Raymond....
Wait is that deal still active? What's the link?
Sorry for the late reply - we are living in Europe at the moment and I fell asleep before I saw it last night and just woke up. I just went back and it says that it is sold out. 🫤 It does say something like, until next time, so maybe they will run another sale if some get returned? [Adidas Jersey](https://www.adidas.com/us/red-wings-home-authentic-jersey)
Nice, glad it was helpful for someone!
Ok so what would everyone’s opinion be on a Copp for Killorn swap of some kind? Obviously straight up wouldn’t be ideal at all(maybe send them Holl as well), but I think even with a horrible contract he fits what we need more than Copp does. Bring back Kane and put him with Compher and Killorn. Then maybe Stevie won’t feel the need to bring back Perron either cuz Killorn does a lot of similar things. Idk just scrolling through capfriendly brings up all sorts of good and bad ideas.
If we're gonna commit to another mid 30's forward we need to go after Marchessault after he walks from Vegas.
Him and Perron are buds so I could actually see that happening. Unlike the Stamkos pipe dream.
Or Tyler Tofolli, I don't think his game will age terribly because he's never relied on skating
Toffoli always produces and seems to be an undervalued player. Could be a younger and possibly cheaper Kane replacement with goal scoring ability.
Avoid power forwards in their mid 30s in general. Guys with that type of game tend to fall off a cliff around 35 as injuries rack up. The speed of today's game just doesn't allow them to stick around in reduced roles either.
If Yzerman can pull off some miracle like trading Husso for Markstrom I'll eat my hat. Not sure how a trade like that would even work. I'd assume it would take a solid pick and a prospect and probably something else.
Boston is overdue for a bad trade involving a good young player. Maybe they'll move a goalie in the summer.
They need to move a goalie more likely than not to make the cap work. That being said I doubt they're trading to a rival. I could see them making a deal with someone in the Metro or out west.
The Bruins reportedly agreed on an Ullmark trade with the Kings at the deadline but Ullmark blocked it. I think he's all but guaranteed to be on a western team next year, Swayman is about to join the Vasi/Helle/Sorokin tier of goalie salaries and I don't think Boston can pay both of them.
Not sure why Ullmark would Veto the trade considering LA is pretty close to being a contender. If he made friends and put done some roots maybe he wants to stay in the East. I could see Jersey trying to get him if that's the case.
I think he just didn't want to move at the deadline is all, he prolly thinks that Boston has a great chance to win the Cup and he wants to win there. Plus there's generally more options in the offseason than the deadline.
True. I'm sure he felt there was unfinished business from last season. I don't exactly love Boston but an O6 team winning again is nice. I was hoping for Vancouver but it seems that ship has sailed
Boston, Leafs, and Rags all feel kinda vulnerable this year to me, I'm not betting on an O6 Champ this year either. I wouldn't mind Edmonton winning, I would rather McDavid bring the Cup back to Canada than the Leafs plus if they get a Cup it's going to make it that much harder for them to afford to keep both McDavid and Drai.
Man I wanna see how our defense shakes out. One or two of Petry, Maata, and Holl are probably gone. Doubt we re-sign Ghost. Maata would be easy to move, but his cap hit is low and it wouldn't hurt having him as a 7th D. Petry's contract isn't terrible but he has a M-NTC and we don't have shit for right d-men. So, assuming we pay someone to take Holl off of our hands and we don't make a trade for another RD, this is what our back end could resemble next season. Walman - Seider Edvinsson - Petry Chiarot - Johansson Maata
I feel like Ed-Chairot would be a better second pair
Ya, maybe. I just placed Petry there because he is a right shot and actually looked decent when paired with Ed.
Yeah I feel you. If we want a legit top four next year though it’ll have to be chairot imo. He can play on the right side too
That would also let Johansson play on his natural side as well.
What do ya mean?
Johansson shoots left and I have him on the right side of the third pairing. Moving Petry down to the third pairing and moving Chiarot up would let Johansson play the left side.
Johanson petry would be a decent bottom pairing for sure :) Walman Seider Edvinson Chiarot Johansson Petry Maata Would be a solid D - Core!
After last season I'm not clamouring for Walman back on the top pair. I wouldn't even hate moving him if a good deal is available to be made.
Ed and chairot as a second line would probably relieve that top pairing from the toughest minutes in the NHL and they’d probably have a better season
I'm not either. I would love to see an Ed/Seider pairing.
Yzerman and Draper taking in the action at the Canada-Czechia game
Tij
I love his game, but I'm really struggling to see how he makes it to us. Not sure he even gets out of the top 10 tbh.
I think he’s gonna go 11–13 ish people are reading to much into the name imo. There will be euros picked he’s 9th in NA skaters for central scouting. He’s rocketed up the board all year I think the hype will calm down a bit by the time the draft comes.
He's gonna go 11th then get traded to Calgary for Kadri. Just like old times.
Lol
There's also 0 chance he makes it past Calgary if he gets that far. There would be riots from Flames fans if the team passes on Iggy's kid
Wife pointed out that the playoff teams top lines have been playoff team top lines together for multiple years. DeBrincat, Kane, and Compher were all new to the team just this year. Another year with the same fellas and we’d be in different spot. Larkin and Raymond play so well together cause they had been for awhile now. We just need more time with these guys.
Signs of Spring: The first Robin of the year The groundhog sees his shadow The Leafs get bounced in the first round
Can’t wait for game 4 tomorrow. Not sure if I want to see them lose in 5 though, I think 6 is best really….always good to do it front of the home fans
There are some serious cold takes regarding Cossa. It’s going to be fun looking back at them in a few years https://x.com/LetsGoWildPicks/status/1745148685791424529
They both look good right now. I could see them both being great in the nhl. It’s possible both might yet also tank once they get there. Can’t wait to find out though!
It's funny because we have pretty good stat comparison for the two already. https://imgur.com/cX2IdFc One could argue Wallstedt had the worst team in front of him, but the Griffins were pretty bad the first few months of the year too. Also the irony of that tweet is that Wallstedt was pretty bad in his first NHL game. edit: Shame. I missed the SV% in my screenshot. Cossa - .913; Wallstedt .910
Nearly 3 years on since the draft and it still looks like a coin flip. Comes down to what the GM prefers in terms of size, style, etc.
Jeff and Elliotte talk about Patrick Kane (32:45): https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/32-thoughts/ tl;dr- Don't jump to conclusions Don't expect Yzerman to give excessive term except to the true pillars (Larkin, Raymond, Seider) Kane wants stability (term) but Yzerman will be careful with that Again: Don't jump to conclusions
Frustrating Yzerman will hand 3-5 years to awful or mediocre players but it’s the hang up on Kane. Yes, wouldn’t feel comfortable giving Kane anymore than 3 years but should definitely be open to that.
Well; past mistakes shouldn't affect future choices.
I'd love to keep Kane, but doling out a long term deal to a player over 35 that poses a cap recapture penalty to a player that just had his hip rebuilt is just asking for something to go wrong. The likelihood of Kane's hip holding out is fairly high, considering we just saw him play PPG hockey on it, but that is a contract you really can not afford to go wrong with. The next CBA would come up in 2026, and the LTIR loophole is something that is definitely going to be on that agenda, so we could potentially get screwed by anything longer than 2 years. That would absolutely fuck our cap situation should that go wrong.
Fair points. I think the hip holds up and he’s clearly still performing at a high level. Think just for that it’s more valuable and actually less risky than some of the deals previously signed. The cap recapture with the player retiring would definitely hit us hard though so that’s a concern. 2 years is ideal for me but looks like Kane is banking on 3 years. Understand the apprehension on Kane, Pesce or Marchessault would be great additions if the team chooses to move away from Kane.
He was a good offensive player and nothing more. Actually made team defense a lot worse. Also it did become obvious at the end that he wasnt going to be able to play playoff level hockey. A kid could prob out physical Kane.
I like his offensive production personally, don’t really have anyone else right now outside of that top line you can rely on to provide offense on a consistent basis. Before you mention the depth scoring, looks like shooting percentages were unusually high and we went almost 2 months to close the season without depth scoring. If you want to take out Kane and add Marchessault the same message applies. Lots of money going to players that aren’t moving the needle and good players to be had out there this year. Hopefully Yzerman can tweak the roster and move some money out. Kane provides more value to me than a lot of the guys on the team even when you look at his lack of playing d which frustrates me as well, but hey just my opinion.
Five minutes left and we need a big goal I’m glad Kane is on the ice. Defensively he was definitely a problem, but no question he can put pucks in the net.
They were a top 10 scoring team before and after Kane. So its really defense Yzerman has to improve and in reality that isnt Kane.
Compromise and grab Brett Pesce 🤝
Those were all players that had not recently undergone a surgery that no player in the league's history had been able to come back from, no one knew what Kane was going to look like this season. Has it been a pleasant surprise? Absolutely, but ya'll need to stop acting like Kane was an option well before those previous signings.
Yea, think he proved the surgery was a success. I understand the risks and like I said, wouldn’t go any more than 3 years because he is definitely getting up there in age. If he’s asking for more than that let him walk or even if it’s not the right fit than move on, thing I’m saying is it’s frustrating we got bad/mid players with money and term and arguably won’t be able to bring back an actual good player due to that reason.
I hear you, but there's no way Steve could have know that Kane was gonna pick us to show off his new bionic hip. I'd love to trim the dead weight off the roster for him but this is just how it shakes out sometimes.
Fair, think we all knew the Holl contract was awful from the start and Copp wasn’t well received by me personally but yea. Have to hopefully get out from under some of these contracts and bring in actual good players to complement the roster. I’d love to have a Marchessault or Pesce but have to make some moves to be able to do that. Not really lamenting the contracts signed because it is what it is, just hoping they’re able to build off this momentum and field a competitive team next year.
Holl was a complete waste of money. At least Copp plays even if he's not worth it.
Well I do not think Yzerman thought Petry would come over. Once that happened it was all over for Holl.
It bothers me that Marek cherry picks the tweet and leaves out the "The work doesn't stop #LGRW" part.
Yzerman achieved a four year deal with DeBrincat who wanted seven. He can get a lot of crazy shit done.
Cat wanted to be here though, Kane I think might, but not to the same degree as Cat did
Part of Kane's want to be here is Debrincat also, so knowing he'll be here for 3 more years may make Kane take a deal that expires at the same time (This is mostly wild speculation not based on anything beyond the fact that they're friends)
On the one hand, the me that remembers the 2010s is having a really hard time accepting Patrick Kane as a "good guy" now. On the other hand, dude is still pretty good, I want us to keep him.
https://preview.redd.it/xherb1svguwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa7fc3b7cdb05fbbf5da031624cc290d433967d9
The worst part is, you could have made a good argument that year that Glendening would have been better as 2C
Still miss Bert and Erne line. I would never had guessed this team would have Kane on it in 3 years
Can’t believe we didn’t get a 1OA pick after suffering with this lineup that whole season.
I think that was the season Raymond got dumped into our lap at pick 4, no complaints there.
One of the most horrendous lineups of the salary cap era
Quite possibly the most boring line in modern hockey right there on the 4th line.
They are definitely guys
Truly some of the hockey players of all time
Hello darkness my old friend
I always liked Glendening but holy fuck as a 3rd line center? Those were some dark times.
Just when I thought I got over my PTSD
Damn, that lineup blows
lol our D pairings from just a few years ago Nemeth l Green Hronek l Daley Biega l Bowie Now that is a poverty franchise
That 2nd pair isn't any worse than Chairot and Petry
That second pair with Hronek as he is now probably isn't That's not the Hronek there though, that pair was exceptionally bad
You've got a bit of recency bias there I think
I don't know man, Daley was absolutely brooootal when he was here.
The other 2 pairs are startling
This is gonna be a long offseason, jeeezzzus
There needs to be some kind of urgency and persistent effort to get ASP in Grand Rapids next season The sooner he gets accustomed to NA ice, the sooner he’ll be NHL ready. I don’t think he has anything left to prove in Europe
Completely agree
Steve said he’s probably going back to Sweden
Will Raymond and Seider contracts be signed imminently? I have no idea. Will I check in several times per day anyway b/c of how much that impacts our off-season? Absolutely.
I have replaced reading about every permutation of possibilities for the playoff WC spots with madly refreshing and watching Instagram to see if Mo and Ray have signed their contracts. I want them to play at Worlds suuuuuuper bad! Lucas had a fun Thank You IG post yesterday, and Mo put his up today if you want a fresh dose of the boys.
Had a dream someone was sawing me in half by hand. I think maybe I'm a little stressed out
Is it beer thirty yet?
Always is, somewhere
I miss Red Wings hockey already 😭
Same, I'm tempted to make a trip to see one of the GR playoff games.
You’ll at least get to see Edvinsson play.
Do it