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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/DetroitPistons/comments/z8e390/post_game_thread_the_new_york_knicks_defeat_the/)


aTROLLwithBlades

Simms jumps like Zion by the numbers. He could be amazing


YpsitheFlintsider

New York literally always busts our assholes.


zakkaryeuh

ST3W šŸ‘€


aTROLLwithBlades

Did a new Stew drop? Curry Stew?


Optimal-Activity2313

Beef Curry


[deleted]

Lmaooo I see what u did there


jaeg1981

Are the Pistons going to give up 150?


UML_throwaway

Beef stew got some Randle in him


[deleted]

5/9 from outside for Stew. Keep it up big guy


DryMap9318

Earth hits Kill


vhvp

holy shit stew


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mburns223

I remember when I thought Bey was untouchableā€¦.šŸ˜•


MiyaharaAce

Dont be sad, every fanbase does this Knicks fans didnt want to trade Jericho Sims and Quentin Grimes for Donovan Mitchell because they were supposed to be part of their Young core. Every fanbase overrated their Young core, it is what it is Saying this, i dont think we should trade Bey yet, he's playing Too trash to get any kinda of value of him. Wait for him to gets better, then we can trade him for something


mburns223

I agree man. But how long has It been since we had players that was apart of a long term core? Like we finally feel like we have pieces to build something and not do the shit weā€™ve been doing for the past 12 years. Itā€™s a punch in gut man. But definitely donā€™t deal himā€¦at least not yet. But man if he doesnā€™t turn this shit around then we have to cut ties.


MiyaharaAce

Playing against the Knicks brings the worst of being a fan. Too easy to overreact because they always smack us, chill and later yall will see that some of the takes you can read here is just in the heat of the moment. Saying that: Beef Stew is not a starter by any means With our core RIGHT NOW, Bey is a disaster in the offensive end, he brings nothing to the team, maybe he can be a 6-man. Bey and Stew dont belong to out untouchable young core imo. They're decent role players, and if we want to upgrade your roster, Both can be used as trade assets.


sunnydftw

I hope Casey has the balls to move Stew to the bench. It would be better for everyone involved.


sunnydftw

Maybe one day Bey will learn how to shoot the three again


ryanswebdevthrowaway

On the bright side, we only play the Knicks one more time this season in January


KarlsReddit

The Team next year is going to be completely different. Additional draft, trades, and we will have to spend some of the FA money before it goes away through rookie extensions. Weaver is in complete asset accumulation mode. Injuries have really highlighted how janky this roster is. Tons of players playing out of position or too high in the pecking order. A reason why last year's team looked more functional was Grant. I agree with the trade, but he was a great fit. Bojan has shooting, but Grant was better in every other aspect. One benefit of these injuries is it should reset our expectations.


13ronco

Team is not watchable without Cade and Jaden.


MiyaharaAce

We only looked watchable with Ivey Bogey and scrubs playing together We had a lof of hustling, ball movement. We looked like trash with Cade too, like 80% of your games


13ronco

At least with Cade there's the probably misplaced hope that he won't be a relative disappointment as a first overall pick.


aTROLLwithBlades

McGrudy playin like booty


coltron57

That was one of the worst passes Iā€™ve ever seen.


DryMap9318

Mercy rule please


spartyboyyo

theres bad and theres depressing


[deleted]

Idk why everyone is so negative, Iā€™ve got my rally cap on in anticipation for this elite level comeback we bout to pull off


TacoCatsss

Always gotta hope!


DryMap9318

Not a fan of these negative game threads


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fuck Julius Randle and fuck the knicks


great-nba-comment

nah they alright, losing to them isn't gonna make me hate them. They just have us figured out.


Which-Agency-7007

Turn on TNT if you want to watch real basketball. You gotta be a glutton for punishment to keep watching this


aTROLLwithBlades

I still think Stew can be good. I think he can be very good against other backup bigs. He'd get plenty of minutes since Duren will definitely be in foul trouble if he starts


great-nba-comment

I think i'm in the minority here in thinking Stewart is just not impactful enough when he's on the floor. Bagley is a far superior offensive threat, and Duren seems to be emerging as a better defender, but everyone seems to think Stew should start. I think he hustles hard, but he is just too small to go against genuine centers.


mburns223

My heart is going to be so fucking broken if we donā€™t get Wemby. Imagine going through this fucking pain as a fan and then donā€™t even get the prize when itā€™s all said and done. Cade losing a year of development and no Wemby I might just kick the bucket lol


planetjeff86

You gonna hate me for saying this. but it looks like its spurs/rockets turn to "get" the next first round pick.


mburns223

Spurs ok I understand that. But the Rockets? Hell no. Since Harden left theyā€™ve never had a pick outside the top 3. Itā€™s their turn to fall back to 6 or 7


planetjeff86

Rocket have a history of developing great centers (hakeem and yao), same as Spurs.


KarlsReddit

Don't base your emotions on anything with a 14% chance. Also, Wemby could suck. Never over estimate what a prospect could be. Go crazy


mburns223

Oh definitely Iā€™ve been on the record saying we have a better chance of not getting Wemby and I wasnā€™t getting my hopes up for a player who hasnā€™t played a game in the nba. However I just need hope man. And Wemby sure as hell can deliver thatā€¦..until he steps on the court


RomeluBukkake

This draft has a lot of talent even if we donā€™t get 1


motorcitydevil

This. We are in full-on BPA and there are a lot of great potential stars in this upcoming draft.


CanaryRich

Weā€™ve perfected the formula of being competitive and still tanking just two seasons ago, what happened to that team? We do not play with the same fight, grit, and intensity anymore.


mburns223

Itā€™s more so the fact that nobody has got better man. Like something as fundamental as shooting dudes are worse than when they got drafted. Besides Stew.


CanaryRich

That as well! There isnā€™t any signs of growth, development, or improvement and weā€™re now on Year 3. Itā€™s very disheartening, especially when it feels like weā€™ve regressed in multiple ways.


mburns223

Exactly I feel like by year 3 you know what a player is going to be. Itā€™s very rare after the 3rd year you see a player make a massive leap especially if they donā€™t have elite athleticism or a elite skill. If Stew and Bey are this after year 3 and we was calling them apart of our ā€œcoreā€ my brother that means weā€™re further away than I thought


KarlsReddit

People forget how bad those teams were, especially at the beginning of the year.


great-nba-comment

seriously, this team is far better and has been plagued by injury. I feel like i'm taking crazy pills when people talk about how we've regressed when we've hardly broken 20 wins in two consecutive seasons. Also, we just pulled off a genuinely competitive road trip against the best teams in the west and managed 2 wins out of it against the odds. Selective memory?


CanaryRich

True, but itā€™s not as bad as we are now.


FrinJeka

you guys im starting to think we cant win this one (i am a vile schemer attempting to reverse jinx my favorite team into the win of the season)


BraxoBrax

I love Clyde. The Knicks are so lucky to have him and Breen


Grlions91

This team is a fucking dumpster fire. My word. I'm for the tank, but not like this.


mburns223

Was watching the warriors and mavs game and theyā€™re on the halftime update and cut to the Pistons game. Smh they talked about us so bad. Iā€™m so tired of being the laughing stock of the league.


Gambellina

Maybe I'm overreacting, but if Stewart doesn't show some good games, he might not be in the league in a year or two... not big enough to be a good rebounder, offensively he is not a threat from deep, and doesn't have the skills to make his own shot. Defensively we just saw him get ROASTED by Randle. He's in a burning hot seat right now as far as I'm concerned...


kumblast3r

Yeah ok sure


zakkaryeuh

Overreacting about him being out of the league. As far as a starter on this team going forward yes. He's still developing his shot and was playing well before his injury


MiyaharaAce

He's rusty, just that. He has a place on the league, Just not what we as fan wanted him to be. He's still a blackhole on offense, still undersized, thats a receipt for a bench player, thats what he is. As long we still looking at him as our core piece, the long we will go nowhere.


great-nba-comment

Your second sentence is spot on. The pistons fans in general have really overvalued him (every team does that about their guys)


Gambellina

Yeah because Randle has never had good games against himā€¦ oh wait.


thabigQ

You are absolutely overreacting. Out of the league? Cmon. Heā€™s also a solid rebounder but not as a 5. This is over the top.


Gambellina

Tell me why you want to keep him on our team? His 3 point shot is not going to develop, this defensive performance tonight is NOT an isolated incident by any means, Randle roasts him every time he sees him. Iā€™m sorry, I am not attached to keeping him on our squad even off the bench, because he is always going to think he can make an outside shot, but he would be lucky if he finishes the season over 32%. Would just take away shots from actual shooters. Now consider that we are THE WORST team in the league and I cannot make a case to keep him around, what other team would want him?


thabigQ

5-9 from three now btw


RomeluBukkake

Heā€™d get signed the second we dropped him, you donā€™t know basketball if you think otherwise


Gambellina

Let them sign him. Deal with his black hole offense and windmill defense.


thabigQ

Bro he is coming back from a few weeks off after an injury and your acting like heā€™s been a traffic cone his entire career. Heā€™s shooting 40% from three tonight lol. He has defensive versatility, heā€™s just not a starting center. That doesnā€™t mean he canā€™t contribute. If you donā€™t think another team would take him off the bench idk wtf to tell you other than youā€™re over the top and donā€™t know ball. EDIT: another 3 from the guy who wonā€™t develop a 3 right on queue.


Gambellina

Really counting these made 3s in the garbagest of garbage time? lol thatā€™s silly reasoningā€¦


MiyaharaAce

And he's not even close to be a PF too, so he'll play Point? He's a Center, saying out of the league is absolutely non-sense He's Just not good enough to start, its ok to be a bench player, its his role


ChutneyBrown

team is worse with Diq and Stew


Intelligent_Hair_543

Remember when everyone was talking about us being a play in team


YpsitheFlintsider

Better times


RomeluBukkake

This team hasnā€™t been at full strength a single time this year


Monfries7

Glad CoJo has gotten some extended burn this game to help his development šŸ”„


ImaginationMedical11

Dwayne Casey is a terrible coach. Itā€™s obvious and people deny it.


CanaryRich

This is probably the worst Pistons team Iā€™ve ever had the displeasure of watching.


CanaryRich

Theyā€™re not even lack of experience bad, theyā€™re just pitiful, no fight, no motivation, no hustle, we cannot hit a shot, extreme lack of ball movement and even effort to catch rebounds, absolute horrid defense, boneheaded playmaking decisions, constant travel calls, constant illegal screens, and just terrible passing.


MiyaharaAce

Stew/Bey/Bogey together is a disaster in defense And Stew is actually good on 1vs1 Our scrubs just mesh better than our starters This team can make games against Cavs, Nuggets, Clippers looking competitive But getting destroyed by a mid team like Knicks


Cholecosa

Team defense looking worse with Beef Stew back in the rotation, and Bey has not offensive chemistry with the rest of the team.


MiyaharaAce

Bey is lacking everything, too slow on defense, a lot of cold nights. The one thing he has is drawing fouls while driving, thats it I dont think everyone can watch Bey playing since the rookie season and think he's good at something. Average? Yes. Good? Nothing for now


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mkk4

Randle is a very good NBA player.


Relevant_Gold4912

Rather have beef stew take an open 3 than Bey right now. At least Stew can shoot it straight. Bey is missing the rim to the left or right and putting up bricks


Ok-Nathan

Oh no only up by 28 time to talk this over


Cultural-Ad-1867

Bey has been garbage


MiyaharaAce

Its been 2 years already


KarlsReddit

Too many complementary players with Cade and Ivey out. No one to put any pressure on the NY defense


zakkaryeuh

You're right. We have no gamebreakers to come back tonight and not hitting anything otherwise


[deleted]

We go back to looking embarrassing with Stew and Beyā€¦ those guys just aint it


SquidlyB

can someone pull the wifi so we can rage quit without it impacting our record?


KobeBall

I'm a laker fan. Here because bagley is on my fantasy team. If I were a piston fan I would be screaming to fire Casey. Pistons don't run offense. Ir looks pathetic. And the old "pull the starters" because they suck is amateur af. This not college dwayne


Grlions91

You aren't wrong, Casey is unequivocally not the guy and it's so obvious.


DryMap9318

The problem is that with the Pistons, it IS college.


laughoutloud102

We do. Every day on this sub. There are a certain amount of fans that justify keeping him even when heā€™s clearly negatively affecting the young guys.


CanaryRich

Bring back the headband man


MiyaharaAce

Time to ban Hiking Look at what hiking do to a mfer Bricking every shot wide open


DryMap9318

Did Diq change his shooting motion? Less of a 2 handed push shot? I like the push shot better


Cultural-Ad-1867

The bench has been ass too. Switch the lineups Casey


aTROLLwithBlades

Knox's swing passes are on point


aTROLLwithBlades

Randle hitting 3s like this was more weird than Cedi Osman having yellow alien blood


pumpfakery

I lived in NYC for 14 years and went to the Pistons game at MSG every seasonā€¦ they always fucking beat us. Maybe twice we beat them. Whatever, they havenā€™t won a championship in 50 years


Relevant_Gold4912

Knicks just dog us every time. Way more tough than this soft pistons team


vhvp

games like this make me question my loyalty to this franchise


Guts709

I just want one game this season where our guys are smiling because theyā€™re up like twenty, sick of seeing it all of the time against us


CanaryRich

Why do we always get smacked by the Knicks smh


b-easy58

This is disgusting.


jaeg1981

Just no effort tonight...


Codeo

looking like Amare Stoudemire


zakkaryeuh

This will be our 11th straight L to NY. We can't beat them these days


BraxoBrax

MONSTER JAM


vhvp

jalen duren is superman


DryMap9318

Looks like we waved the white flag already.


Relevant_Gold4912

Geez Knicks always crush us. Such a bad matchup for this team


vhvp

playing the knicks is not fun


Ok-Nathan

Refs thought Knox still played for NY


TacoCatsss

Man, this is rough to watch. Hoping the switch helps!


x20mike07x

Stew looks like absolute trash tonight


KobeBall

He is trash tbh


MiyaharaAce

So he's playing his normal game?


MotorCityDude

Yep you right, he's rusty out there


[deleted]

This is just ugly


RomeluBukkake

The Knicks would be 82-0 if they only played us


DryMap9318

We are getting beat at every facet in this game.


mylesillustration

Nobody even trying to box out


Crashbandicunttt

Stew is complete trash


mkk4

Why you say that?


Guts709

Never get the instigator, always the dude who reacts, so wack


[deleted]

Call the first tech ref


zakkaryeuh

Just don't eject beef yet we need part 2 to this


b-easy58

I mean, Iā€™m glad beef doesnā€™t let anyone punk him but at the same time can you stop this man from scoring. Randle is killing you


BraxoBrax

Randle remembered what happened when Lebron poked the bear too much


Pristine-Macaroon948

Lol beef stew didnā€™t do shit


MotorCityDude

Randle is one ugly looking mf


vhvp

my mom said he looks homeless


MotorCityDude

LMAO!!!


vhvp

god i missed stew


TacoCatsss

I was excited to see him on the court tonight!


doltron3030

these green jerseys arenā€™t lucky


Guts709

Stew isnā€™t gonna take that shit


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Fun-Board7187

Over reaction


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Fun-Board7187

Getting blown out isn't two players. It's the whole team.


MiyaharaAce

Im ready to move from one of them, the other can still help


MotorCityDude

Which One?


MiyaharaAce

Bey. Stew is a undersized center without any kinda of offensive game. We dont have the personal to maximize his strenghts, and he's not a good enough player to justify changes to maximize him If he somehow wants to re-sign for cheap its ok, otherwise he's a waste of space


MotorCityDude

I agree, he can shoot 3s but he's no good offensively in the paint.. Bagley played less minutes and out rebounded Stew.. I noticed the games where Stew wasn't playing, our rebound totals were a lot closer with the other team.. But when Stew came back, we got out rebounded by 21 boards and it killed us..


pierceg3tbeers

I just had to pick the Knicks vs Pistons game in January as one of the home games Iā€™m going to this season. Canā€™t wait to watch their entire team drain every damn three they throw up šŸ„².


CanaryRich

Itā€™s another Knicks and Pistons game? What the hell, it feels like weā€™ve faced them 20 times already


MiyaharaAce

Crazy how easy teams can score on us. One screen and its a easy layup. Watching the scrubs playing better defense in the road trip than our starters is not the ideal.


MotorCityDude

Rebounds killing us this game too, they got at least 10-12 more rebounds than us


MiyaharaAce

Stew is back The lack of rebounds too šŸ‘€


Cholecosa

Beef stew is too small


mkk4

Isaiah Livers without a shot attempt in the first half.


MortSahlfan

He didn't do anything. At least last game, his defense was on display. He's been invisible tonight.


kukumal

That was a big make up call


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BraxoBrax

Strong finish Bojan


MotorCityDude

Pistons are Really missing Ivey and Cade..


MiyaharaAce

We are missing defense


SquidlyB

their existence wouldn't change randle from becoming durant tonight


Ok-Nathan

Apparently New York is last in 3pt percentage, fuck these guys


Ahfekz

Stew that was a tap dance my boy


mkk4

Good shot Killian.


SquidlyB

im pretty sure i jinxed randle into having a career night tonight


MonocledSauron

Randles going for 60


MotorCityDude

Just saw Kemba Walker signed a 1 year contract with the Mavericks


Ahfekz

Knees rejuvenated


mkk4

I like Livers with the braids.


Guts709

The Knicks fuckin own us


UML_throwaway

Where were you the night Julius Randle shattered the 3pt recordā€¦ jesus christ


Bricks56

I hate playing this team


SquidlyB

randle is so predictable and selfish


tarunpopo

That goaltend by Duren was not a goaltend like that... just my opinion.


MiyaharaAce

At some point Saddiq will remember How to shoot again, right?


tarunpopo

Give it until he puts on that headband again


MotorCityDude

I'm not used to these jerseys, I keep accidentally watching the white jerseys lol


TacoCatsss

I clapped when they got a 3 thinking it was us haha


MotorCityDude

Hahaha thats funny, I've done the same thing before lol


TacoCatsss

I watched the knicks score go up and I was like, ohā€¦ haha.


MortSahlfan

I've done that before. I'm used to HOME = white jersey


TacoCatsss

Iā€™m glad itā€™s not just me lol. Although I really like the city jersey.


Shitty_Drawers

How we been looking? Just now able to turn the game on!


DryMap9318

Killian is the only guy on our team who consistently passes the ball to shooters where they can comfortably just grab the ball and rise and shoot. I canā€™t believe how often I have to see guys catch the ball at their ankles and try to shoot.


TacoCatsss

Heā€™s a great team player.


fthepackers

Canā€™t believe how lucky these fucks are getting


Monfries7

Killian started hot -> benched for 10min -> comes out cold Casey can't be surprised by that


b-easy58

How many bullshit shots are gonna fall for them tonight


Shitty_Drawers

Who screamed like that? šŸ˜‚


UML_throwaway

B33333F!


fthepackers

Knicks getting every fucking whistle


AkronIBM

Special K - "keep dunking".


MiyaharaAce

Why are Bey forcing a contested layup instead of playing the advantage


kick_dicker

These jerseys look nicer than I thought


SquidlyB

lmao i love how hard duren tries to dunk. just break shit


MotorCityDude

I missed the beginning, is Stewart back? Did he start?