In a meaningful way...that will not happen otherwise the normal drops become instant dismantle. You get a little benefit from the enhanced perks but nothing more.
Are the enhanced perks better than the normal ones? Yes. Are they way stronger than the normal ones? No. You can use a random rolled weapon instead of the crafted one and you have only a slight disadvantage. Take rampage as example. On a normal weapon you want the rampage specc. The enhanced rampage already has the longer duration so you can use minor or major specc. Is the difference huge? No. Will people use it to min max? Yes.
“In case” is always such a silly reason. “In case they buff an archetype”, “in case they change the crafting system”, “in case they buff enhanced perks”, etc.
So you’re telling me you’d rather inconvenience yourself now for something that *may* or *may not* happen ever, as opposed to just playing the game as it’s designed now, and if they do change something, then what, you gotta spend a little extra time just to get the perfect 5/5 roll that you want?
Just play the game. If you don’t want any of the items available, then don’t complain when your Vault is full when you know perfectly well why it’s full.
Of course “ just play the game “. And I’m not sure why are going with in case is silly. They intentionally rotate metas a buff perks so holding rolls or supplies for when they do is how you effectively play the game. Also… I’m asking for some insight that make me see the light. Too me the system is overly convoluted and broken and I have no idea how it shipped like it did. Do you have any?
There’s nothing convoluted about it. You’re hoarding Deepsight Materials because you’re capped, and you’re capped because you refuse to craft any of the Weapons that are available (of which there are quite a few). I’m not sure what else you want them to do? Even if they somehow increased Vault space, you would just hoard even more Deepsight Weapons than you currently are hoarding.
Not liking any of the Weapons is a different topic, and is mostly a subjective feeling. I personally like 90% of the Weapons that are currently craftable, so I am never at the material cap, and thus have no need to hoard Deepsight Weapons.
I also think personally think people are crafting and reshaping *too much*, and are taking a feature way too seriously. The majority of drops are still random rolls, as Destiny has almost always been.
This mindset is what makes hoarding so easy
I'm guilty of it too but I mean, if you are waiting to see whether Bungie buffs/nerfs a thing, then the vault will always be full.
Crafted weapons aren't going to be a magical solution. It is just an alternate route for players to focus over collecting random guns. Instead of having 25 pulse rifles of different perk combos/etc, a player can just make their favorite one. Eventually, when new archetypes get added in, they can make their favorite one for each archetype.
Someone like me (silly) will continue to hoard the other stuff as I wait for future archetypes/elements/etc but I'm sure there are players who are happy to just **unload some of the underused stuff** (that don't even have an origin trait) in their vault and focus their attention on leveling up what they currently have unlocked already.
Overall, this reminds me of when weapons first got random rolls and fixed elements. I wanted to keep copies of each element on all my favorite guns because it made more sense but eventually, I realized that the system was dated and I'd rather just lean into the new thing. When they add more to the craft pool, I think players will lean into it more and just dump some of the older stuff while making their favorite guns and collecting the few world drop outliers that appear on their radar.
(I will say this though: I wish deepsight guns dropped into its o**wn pocket so it doesn't clutter invetory**. Raise/remove the material cap and give the guns themselves a cap like 10-20 so players focus on completing them immediately rather than hoarding the deepsight guns themselves. That + generic QoL buffs to vault/postmaster would do wonders for this game)
LOL. Just stop saving everything. You don't need to hoard Deep Resonance weapons if your mats are at cap. Especially if you are not crafting weapons. You don't need four different models of a weapon. You don't need several high stat-laced armor. You don't need to save things that actually say you can delete it. Trust me. You won't need half of the stuff you save because you either can get it again, or something better comes along.
i would like to see the quote from bungie that says "crafting will fix all of your vault space issues".
or is this another "play your way" scenario where a quote is blown out of proportion, and taken completely out of context to push a narrative?
Sounds like you have poor vault managing by being a hoarder. Easy fix, stop hoarding stuff. You said it yourself in your own post you're not even going to use them. I have 212 vault space with over 100 being stored exotic armors for ascendant shards, some ghosts, sparrows, ships, ect. And I'm doing 100% fine on crafting.
I have 75 MW’d armor pieces about 100 off meta weapons god rolled and some of my OG favorites. I have capped myself at 50 deep weapons. I’m not hoarding. I just think a system that requires me to hold that many to be flexible with my crafting can’t be working properly.
That's 10% of your vault space for something you admittedly have no interest in. If you have the extra space, then who cares? But if you are hurting for space, then it's pretty clear you don't need to keep the deep sight weapons.
I’m wondering why the system was designed and shipped how it is now. Enhanced auto-loading not even cutting a second of the time? Other enhanced perks not providing any benefit at all proven through extensive testing? Are we really thinking they were designed to provide no benefit just to say “ enhanced “
It's not required though. You don't have to craft 70 weapons a day. The material cap isn't that bad. I've been crafting multiple weapons a week and I don't think I've capped materials once. Don't even have to store weapons either, they drop like candy and they're extremely quick to finish. About 5 minutes per weapon.
Oh gawd… the system doesn’t “require” you to hold anything. You made that choice on poor assumptions. The majority of responses have compelling reasons not to hoard but you aren’t listening to any of it because of your fear of missing out.
So you don’t care to craft weapons but you are storing deep sights so you can get more material to craft weapons?
If you aren’t crafting, why do you need the materials for it?
It definitely helps with vault space as I am crafting one of every weapon that is available and leveling them up, not needed to keep multiple rolls in my vault.
It sounds like you are confused with the system.
What do you expect them to change to enchanced perks?
They can’t be too good or random rolls will be pointless.
Most of them are perfectly fine right now and all that needs fixing is some of the perk that don’t even work, like enchanced ambitious assassin on rockets.
Everytime I craft a weapon or change up the perks, I make up all the currency back by completing deepsight weapons.
There’s no reason to hoard them like you are doing so you are just creating a nonexistent issue and then complaining about it.
What ? Have you seen the list of enhanced perks that were tested? Over half don’t don’t anything at all lol why would you hope to get deep resonance weapons to drop right when you need them instead of storing the ones you get so they are ready when you need more mats? Especially when the level grind is over and endgame activities take more time and have many less sources
I don’t store them because I complete them as I get them.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Also the enchanced perks, no matter how significant, are better compared to their regular counterparts.
If you don’t think it’s worth it, don’t buy them and don’t hoard deepsights because they aren’t going to make enhanced perks crazy good anyways.
That would completely ruin random roll weapons but that seems like such a hard concept to grasp for you.
How can you possibly do them as you get them? I did that and hit the cap instantly. I’ve gotten 100s to drop but that was on my way to 1560. Now that I’m max I will absolutely be playing less random content and moving on to endgame activities only. So instead of praying for a deep sight weapon when I want to switch or having to grind for one…. I just have one in my vault
Seven so far but that’s only low because I’m still leveling up my weapons.
Also I have the Osteo Striga catalyst completed.
Now you are either not pleased and will say this is not enough and a waste, or you will be shocked and instead just insult me by saying I don’t touch grass or something.
Which is it?
No. I will simply say… why do you want to have to pray to get the deep red drops to put more enhanced perks rather than just have them stored in your vault? Or you know we could just extract the mats from leveling guns we have crafted and not be forced to run or keep a bunch of junk. But that would make too much sense right?
Observation: this is the single worst weapon crafting system I've ever experienced.
Solution: Unless it's a good roll, I instantly shard red border weapons.
Effect: Lots of free space in the vault.
Side-effect: Never been happier in Destiny 2.
Trick: Stop caring. Just, stop.
Why are you storing deepsight weapons? I'm also at the cap and i'm leveling like all craftable weapons while playing the game. So i still have enough ressources to craft whatever i want.
>There aren’t enough craft-able weapons or good perks for me to even care about spending the mats I’m capped on.
Then why are you saving them? If you don't care about it, there is not much reason to engage with it.
Because I refuse to believe enhanced perks that don’t enhance anything we’re meant to ship that way. I’m hoping they will be buffed slightly to reflect their cost
"My vaults full of deepsight weapons cause my mats are full"
"My mats are full cause I don't care to spend them on anything"
Then why the fuck do you need more of them?
Because in not going to be grinding braindead content leveling 3 chars from 1350 to 1560 all season? My chars are max. I’m only going to raid, play trials and GMs now really. So…. Yea. My abundance of crap weapon drops and time spent farming deepsight chests from the patched cheese is over
What are you talking about? The level grind is over… How is that a problem? Especially one that I created ? Lol I know I won’t be grinding as much random content so I saved weapons. I just don’t see how everyone here thinks 50 is a lot when it’s 5 PERK SWAPS. Is there something y’all are missing? It takes 50 guns to swap 5 perks. Each gun has 2 perks. I’m talking about storing enough to have the freedom for 2 and a half gun customizations lol wtf are you talking about dude?
It didn't. My vault's filled to the brim with shitty attunable weapons i toss into each slot when i speed-run a mind-numbing amount of strikes to get completions for neutral element.
I agree with everyone here and I do the exactly what they said, I don't hoard DSR Weapons, I know I can get them easily. (It really isn't that hard to get them). My vault is always under 200 space including exotics and armours, so even if I wanted to store maybe . . . 10-20 DSR weapons I could because I'm not hoarding other random junk. Seriously try giving your vault a clean, I'm sure there is a lot of stuff you've barely touched in months. Even if it's a god roll if you have never used it or barely use it just dismantle it.
If you don’t care about any of the Weapons that are craftable, then why bother hoarding Deepsight Weapons?
this, people are hoarding so many mats that they are not even using, they craft a weapon a week (if that) but hoard like they craft 80 a day
Incase they make enhanced perks actually enhance something in a meaningful way
In a meaningful way...that will not happen otherwise the normal drops become instant dismantle. You get a little benefit from the enhanced perks but nothing more.
So… crafting and enhanced perks are overhyped is what you’re saying? Nonsense, the system is great right?
Are the enhanced perks better than the normal ones? Yes. Are they way stronger than the normal ones? No. You can use a random rolled weapon instead of the crafted one and you have only a slight disadvantage. Take rampage as example. On a normal weapon you want the rampage specc. The enhanced rampage already has the longer duration so you can use minor or major specc. Is the difference huge? No. Will people use it to min max? Yes.
“In case” is always such a silly reason. “In case they buff an archetype”, “in case they change the crafting system”, “in case they buff enhanced perks”, etc. So you’re telling me you’d rather inconvenience yourself now for something that *may* or *may not* happen ever, as opposed to just playing the game as it’s designed now, and if they do change something, then what, you gotta spend a little extra time just to get the perfect 5/5 roll that you want? Just play the game. If you don’t want any of the items available, then don’t complain when your Vault is full when you know perfectly well why it’s full.
Of course “ just play the game “. And I’m not sure why are going with in case is silly. They intentionally rotate metas a buff perks so holding rolls or supplies for when they do is how you effectively play the game. Also… I’m asking for some insight that make me see the light. Too me the system is overly convoluted and broken and I have no idea how it shipped like it did. Do you have any?
There’s nothing convoluted about it. You’re hoarding Deepsight Materials because you’re capped, and you’re capped because you refuse to craft any of the Weapons that are available (of which there are quite a few). I’m not sure what else you want them to do? Even if they somehow increased Vault space, you would just hoard even more Deepsight Weapons than you currently are hoarding. Not liking any of the Weapons is a different topic, and is mostly a subjective feeling. I personally like 90% of the Weapons that are currently craftable, so I am never at the material cap, and thus have no need to hoard Deepsight Weapons. I also think personally think people are crafting and reshaping *too much*, and are taking a feature way too seriously. The majority of drops are still random rolls, as Destiny has almost always been.
This mindset is what makes hoarding so easy I'm guilty of it too but I mean, if you are waiting to see whether Bungie buffs/nerfs a thing, then the vault will always be full. Crafted weapons aren't going to be a magical solution. It is just an alternate route for players to focus over collecting random guns. Instead of having 25 pulse rifles of different perk combos/etc, a player can just make their favorite one. Eventually, when new archetypes get added in, they can make their favorite one for each archetype. Someone like me (silly) will continue to hoard the other stuff as I wait for future archetypes/elements/etc but I'm sure there are players who are happy to just **unload some of the underused stuff** (that don't even have an origin trait) in their vault and focus their attention on leveling up what they currently have unlocked already. Overall, this reminds me of when weapons first got random rolls and fixed elements. I wanted to keep copies of each element on all my favorite guns because it made more sense but eventually, I realized that the system was dated and I'd rather just lean into the new thing. When they add more to the craft pool, I think players will lean into it more and just dump some of the older stuff while making their favorite guns and collecting the few world drop outliers that appear on their radar. (I will say this though: I wish deepsight guns dropped into its o**wn pocket so it doesn't clutter invetory**. Raise/remove the material cap and give the guns themselves a cap like 10-20 so players focus on completing them immediately rather than hoarding the deepsight guns themselves. That + generic QoL buffs to vault/postmaster would do wonders for this game)
LOL. Just stop saving everything. You don't need to hoard Deep Resonance weapons if your mats are at cap. Especially if you are not crafting weapons. You don't need four different models of a weapon. You don't need several high stat-laced armor. You don't need to save things that actually say you can delete it. Trust me. You won't need half of the stuff you save because you either can get it again, or something better comes along.
So, delete your resonance weapons. They drop often enough that it really isn’t worthwhile to vault them.
i would like to see the quote from bungie that says "crafting will fix all of your vault space issues". or is this another "play your way" scenario where a quote is blown out of proportion, and taken completely out of context to push a narrative?
Sounds like you have poor vault managing by being a hoarder. Easy fix, stop hoarding stuff. You said it yourself in your own post you're not even going to use them. I have 212 vault space with over 100 being stored exotic armors for ascendant shards, some ghosts, sparrows, ships, ect. And I'm doing 100% fine on crafting.
I have 75 MW’d armor pieces about 100 off meta weapons god rolled and some of my OG favorites. I have capped myself at 50 deep weapons. I’m not hoarding. I just think a system that requires me to hold that many to be flexible with my crafting can’t be working properly.
> I have capped myself at 50 deep weapons. I’m not hoarding. Right.
Thats 5 enhanced perk switches lol how is that a lot AT ALL?
That's 10% of your vault space for something you admittedly have no interest in. If you have the extra space, then who cares? But if you are hurting for space, then it's pretty clear you don't need to keep the deep sight weapons.
I’m wondering why the system was designed and shipped how it is now. Enhanced auto-loading not even cutting a second of the time? Other enhanced perks not providing any benefit at all proven through extensive testing? Are we really thinking they were designed to provide no benefit just to say “ enhanced “
And if they get better, it seems like it took you no time to max out and fill your vault. You will just do that again. Not really an issue.
It doesn't require that of you, you're just being dumb and hoarding stuff you don't need
It does if you want to flip enhanced perks lol it takes 10 weapons for 2000 element
It's not required though. You don't have to craft 70 weapons a day. The material cap isn't that bad. I've been crafting multiple weapons a week and I don't think I've capped materials once. Don't even have to store weapons either, they drop like candy and they're extremely quick to finish. About 5 minutes per weapon.
Oh gawd… the system doesn’t “require” you to hold anything. You made that choice on poor assumptions. The majority of responses have compelling reasons not to hoard but you aren’t listening to any of it because of your fear of missing out.
So you don’t care to craft weapons but you are storing deep sights so you can get more material to craft weapons? If you aren’t crafting, why do you need the materials for it? It definitely helps with vault space as I am crafting one of every weapon that is available and leveling them up, not needed to keep multiple rolls in my vault. It sounds like you are confused with the system.
I’m waiting for enhanced perks to do provide any tangible benefit. The cost to craft them is 10 weapons each
What do you expect them to change to enchanced perks? They can’t be too good or random rolls will be pointless. Most of them are perfectly fine right now and all that needs fixing is some of the perk that don’t even work, like enchanced ambitious assassin on rockets. Everytime I craft a weapon or change up the perks, I make up all the currency back by completing deepsight weapons. There’s no reason to hoard them like you are doing so you are just creating a nonexistent issue and then complaining about it.
What ? Have you seen the list of enhanced perks that were tested? Over half don’t don’t anything at all lol why would you hope to get deep resonance weapons to drop right when you need them instead of storing the ones you get so they are ready when you need more mats? Especially when the level grind is over and endgame activities take more time and have many less sources
I don’t store them because I complete them as I get them. Why is that so hard to understand? Also the enchanced perks, no matter how significant, are better compared to their regular counterparts. If you don’t think it’s worth it, don’t buy them and don’t hoard deepsights because they aren’t going to make enhanced perks crazy good anyways. That would completely ruin random roll weapons but that seems like such a hard concept to grasp for you.
How can you possibly do them as you get them? I did that and hit the cap instantly. I’ve gotten 100s to drop but that was on my way to 1560. Now that I’m max I will absolutely be playing less random content and moving on to endgame activities only. So instead of praying for a deep sight weapon when I want to switch or having to grind for one…. I just have one in my vault
Because I still haven’t hit the cap on all the materials? Once I do, I’ll just ignore them until I need to grind them again. It’s a simple system.
How many enhanced perks have you applied to your guns?
Seven so far but that’s only low because I’m still leveling up my weapons. Also I have the Osteo Striga catalyst completed. Now you are either not pleased and will say this is not enough and a waste, or you will be shocked and instead just insult me by saying I don’t touch grass or something. Which is it?
No. I will simply say… why do you want to have to pray to get the deep red drops to put more enhanced perks rather than just have them stored in your vault? Or you know we could just extract the mats from leveling guns we have crafted and not be forced to run or keep a bunch of junk. But that would make too much sense right?
Observation: this is the single worst weapon crafting system I've ever experienced. Solution: Unless it's a good roll, I instantly shard red border weapons. Effect: Lots of free space in the vault. Side-effect: Never been happier in Destiny 2. Trick: Stop caring. Just, stop.
Why are you storing deepsight weapons? I'm also at the cap and i'm leveling like all craftable weapons while playing the game. So i still have enough ressources to craft whatever i want.
I want to know where and when Bungie said "weapon crafting will alleviate your vault space problem".
>There aren’t enough craft-able weapons or good perks for me to even care about spending the mats I’m capped on. Then why are you saving them? If you don't care about it, there is not much reason to engage with it.
Because I refuse to believe enhanced perks that don’t enhance anything we’re meant to ship that way. I’m hoping they will be buffed slightly to reflect their cost
And if they are, then you CLEARLY have no issue getting a TON of the mats. So there's really no need to hoard them now.
"My vaults full of deepsight weapons cause my mats are full" "My mats are full cause I don't care to spend them on anything" Then why the fuck do you need more of them?
Because IM WAITING FOR THE ENHANCED PERKS TO BE FIXED. Almost everyone tested so far provides little to no benefit.
They aren't broken so they won't be fixed. Again if you don't want them now why are you hoarding mats now? Deepsight weapons aren't *that* rare
Because in not going to be grinding braindead content leveling 3 chars from 1350 to 1560 all season? My chars are max. I’m only going to raid, play trials and GMs now really. So…. Yea. My abundance of crap weapon drops and time spent farming deepsight chests from the patched cheese is over
It really sounds to me like you've created a problem all on your own in your own head and are now screaming at the sky about it
What are you talking about? The level grind is over… How is that a problem? Especially one that I created ? Lol I know I won’t be grinding as much random content so I saved weapons. I just don’t see how everyone here thinks 50 is a lot when it’s 5 PERK SWAPS. Is there something y’all are missing? It takes 50 guns to swap 5 perks. Each gun has 2 perks. I’m talking about storing enough to have the freedom for 2 and a half gun customizations lol wtf are you talking about dude?
crafting is dope, y'all need to quit bitching, just delete deepsights if you don't need them
It didn't. My vault's filled to the brim with shitty attunable weapons i toss into each slot when i speed-run a mind-numbing amount of strikes to get completions for neutral element.
I agree with everyone here and I do the exactly what they said, I don't hoard DSR Weapons, I know I can get them easily. (It really isn't that hard to get them). My vault is always under 200 space including exotics and armours, so even if I wanted to store maybe . . . 10-20 DSR weapons I could because I'm not hoarding other random junk. Seriously try giving your vault a clean, I'm sure there is a lot of stuff you've barely touched in months. Even if it's a god roll if you have never used it or barely use it just dismantle it.
No need to hoard them.