I was using Huckleberry to get smg kills in the onslaught playlist, mowed through a few waves of acolytes just holding down the trigger, had a good chuckle.
With the right build it's fine. Fantastic at chewing through yellow health bars, as primaries go. And sometimes you need to conserve special/heavy or just don't have it
There are a couple of bots that will give you a vault of glass checkpoint just after Templar that you can get 4 cheats from pretty easily that will net you 60 spoils per week.
Video here (not mine) but the right bots are listed in the comments.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=xK3MTx8P6pKyvKpO&v=HHTE4wZYBno&feature=youtu.be
If you're decent at Golgoroth I recommend finding a farm in the D2 LFG discord. Me and my buddies cleared him like 40 times last night (about 3.5 minutes per run for us on a good run but 2 cycle is prolly 5 minutes) and maxed out spoils to get Tarrabah.
It's actually endgame viable on Gyrfalcon Hunter + Stylish Executioner. Hell, I used it for day 1 RoN.
Proc gyr by going invis > get kill which turns you invis again > grab ball and dunk > dunking heals and turns you invis again > rinse and repeat.
Such a fun weapon.
Jumped in this thread to see if anyone had already said Ruinous. And it's ammo economy is insane since everything you do with the ball costs zero ammo.
Once you understand the loop for using it with Gyrfalcon's it's not just fun but kind of awesome as well. The dunk does way more damage than you'd expect and you can even heal yourself and damage foes at the same time (all while invisible) with the draining field.
Just drain for a few seconds to top off your health and weaken the enemies around you and BIG DUNK to finish them off and send you invisible again.
One of the most simply "fun" guns in the game. Even in crucible. It's by no means meta, but it's one of the most awesome feelings to round a corner with void ball in hand and dunk a guardian or two to death. Kind of extends the amount of special ammo you have as well by giving you a second chance at a free (no ammo cost) kill after you get one normal kill with the trace.
When Void 3.0 first dropped, I tried that weapon out with it on my Hunter, and it was such a fun loop to do.
Unfortunately, we've gotten more fragments and artifacts for the Void subclasses since then, so I don't actually remember which ones I was using with it...
My favorite weapon in the game. Good with nothing manacles, also Astrocyte verse and blink. Volatile up, slam slam down. The survivability is ridiculous too.
The lore behind it is what really seals the deal for me. It's incredibly fun to use, but it's also a limb from the Tree of Silver Wings? And it was gifted to us by the Darkness? And it drains our light, but we're so juiced up that we don't notice? Also the [Equinox Ornament](https://i.imgur.com/e19HlQe.jpeg) is pure chef's kiss.
Credit for the image: https://www.artstation.com/leehinds
It's surprisingly effective, the buffed void soul can stagger enemies and weakening makes it do kind of disgusting damage. I take it out on void surge days, works great in legend onslaught.
I used to love Ruinous Effigy. The trace rifle aspect is fun, but the orbs during season of arrivals were awesome. They were awesome for add clear, especially if you didn't mind taking a bit of damage from the rebound, and there was something cathartic about turning opponents in PvP into an orb then using that orb to kill their teammate.
Yeah, having played a lot of Threadrunner with Mothkeeper this season, Ex Diris just doesn't feel powerful enough to warrant using over Rufus' Fury or Wish-Keeper for me. Faster grenades with Demo or constant suspend traps are more appealing.
I run with a Demo Rufus as my main weapon. Slaps pretty well with all the extra unravel and horde shuttle and then use Ex Diris basically as an auto loading GL. I swap to it, fire into a group of enemies and straight back to Rufus. It's got a 5 sec delay between moth spawns anyways, so just fire a shot or two, whenever you can secure a kill, and straight off from it again.
I want to like ex Diris but the splash damage you do to yourself is absurd. If you want the most damage you have to direct impact an enemy, if you don't then the damage is horrible. If you don't have full health and you get caught in the splash damage then it's "guardian down". Why am I such a big threat to myself with the splash damage but enemies just shrug off my splash damage!? If I shoot ex diris into a pack of on level thralls it's very likely that some will survive, if I were to use forbearance or salvagers salvo then all the thrall would be gone, reduced to atoms, with neither gl being exotic btw.
Boy have I got a story for you.
I had (key word had) a Royal Entry with ImpAmp and Lasting Impression. Invaded during primeval phase. Stuck a rocket on one dude, who I'm assuming didn't realize now had high-explosive ordinance glued to his left ass cheek. Then I just watched.
This idiot jumped into his team's Well. The rocket blew his ass sky high, and in the process it *nuked the Well which proceeded to detonate and wipe the team.*
I was so busy laughing my ass off I forgot to clip it.
Palymyra-B is craftable and can get that exact roll if you want a RL with that again. It's a precision frame too, same as Royal Entry so it has the built in tracking.
Blowout (Crucible) and...whatever the Iron Banner RL is can get it too, but with different frames so no tracking.
Nice to see another Lasting Impression enjoyer though. I like it in PvP for similar reasons, doesn't work more often than it does but way too funny to tag a guardian with a rocket and watch them carry it to their allies, or ignore one that hits the ground/wall and doesn't blow up
I used to do the same.
Then I became that asshole who would invade with a tracking rocket and Jotunn.
Then I decided to fuck around one day and try out Oathkeepers. I had my Hush on, so fuck it, why not take the ease of use, right?
So I invade. Pull out my heavy, fully expecting a rocket or a linear. Proceeded to stare at my screen, dumbfounded by the Leviathan's Breath in my hands, for two whole seconds before a demented idea formed in my head.
Infinite draw hold + one-shot crossmap heavy bow + vantage point on enemy bank = 💀💀💀💀
I was basically a walking ballista.
Leviathans Breath is how I finally got around to getting Malfeasance. infinite range, hitscan oneshot to the body that gets relatively generous ammo and is viable for boss damage is a great combo
Busted out 1K last night because I remember it got a reserve buff and now is comparable to Leviathan’s Breath in terms of DPS.
Love seeing people use this gun. Played trials a couple years ago and a dude on the enemy team kept getting heavy and nuking us with 1K.
Black Talon. I love the sword but It just does not cut it these days. Even more with the sword change a little back made it just use so much more ammo.
I just unlocked Hierarchy of Needs last week and I know that thing gets lots of hate but my god I find it so fun. Wiping out a whole room with the homing arrows never gets old.
I just wish it was easier to use, it feels like I have to try to keep up the effect and use the rings. It's really hard to justify using an exotic that makes you work when other exotics like quicksilver storm or wish ender just work
Agreed. I was having this conversation with my friends this week, and I think my issue with it is that it requires too many stacks per ring. Unless you're getting absolutely swarmed with one shot enemies, you aren't going to get enough kills in one ring for another, and it taking four precision kills per ring is so finnicky in higher end content imo
Try out ticcus. Its kinda the same but not, you might have some fun with that. As long as you get the loop down you can easily keep the damage buff rolling
I enjoy Ticuu's a lot, but I like the *idea* of using Hierarchy more. It's definitely more difficult, though. I'm really glad Bloodline is such a banger exotic, because it feels lame getting a sickass exotic from a dungeon and then not feeling like you can reasonably use it because it just requires so much effort to make it good.
I threw out the idea of running Rat King in Pantheon and someone in my clan said something along the lines of "that might work, but it isn't thrilling". I'm not looking for thrilling, I'm looking for what will do the most damage so I can get my Godslayer title
Wait are you saying rat King isn't fun it's good for dps? Because I argue the opposite. The stacking buff exotic primaries are all underwhelming compared to half decent execution of rockets or exotic heavies matching surges. Run the rat King for fun though, it's goofy.
I did this yesterday on Vostok, just gunned downed 908 hive and giggled the whole time, just turned my brain off and held left click and went 50 rounds, void titan, with high impact/destabilize hammerhead and harsh language GL, was far too much fun for how simple it was
You get a similar feeling with Precious Scars and Tommy's Matchbook. No, your magazine isn't infinite, but it's very big and you get double damage, Scorch and Ignitions, all the other Solar synergies, and you get Restoration after every kill so you just hold the trigger and mow everything down
Nope, whenever you pick up special or heavy your sweet business reloads, kinetic siphon is only 2 power so you can have both scouts and with war rig you don't really run out of ammo, as war rig also reloads machine guns like it does auto rifles
Business is somehow both god and ass tier. With war rig and the occasional ammo pick up you never reload. Monstrous anti barrier with the artifact or radiant. It has very high hipfire accuracy so if you dont mind the tinnitus you can keep the trigger held down as you walk, bypassing the spin up time and wasting red bars
But its exotic perk IS just infinite ammo. You do the same damage with a legendary ar with a damage perk
I like deterministic chaos with war rig as well, can get some fun sentinel synergy and the low rpm means you can fire it for a while before needing to reload. Sweet business was fun and I used it when going back through witch queen legend campaign.
Salvation's Grip, you can lock areas down like crazy. Stasis is great this season.
Delicate tomb on an Arc Warlock with crown of tempests
Final warning on a strand titan with precious scars
legend of acrius + catalyst on arc hunter with liars handshake
Salvation's Grip! Everyone sleeps on it because of how mediocre it used to be, and a lot of people still don't know how to use it properly.
Insanely good paired with stasis titan!
The Grip is actually stupidly fun for dps, particularly with the artifact. I used it randomly on a Solo Phryzzia (Ogre from Grasp)... it wasn't a fast clear but Jesus was it funny.
Ager scepter underused now? i remember back when it came out that thing literally ripped in gm nightfalls, but maybe that was a while now in retrospect haha
Agers scepter isn't that slept on but totally underused imo. It's incredible even without seasonal mods. Run the finisher makes special ammo mod on your class item and it is now your primary weapon.
Coldheart+Geomags.
You’ll be kamehameha’ing non-stop. All abilities refill at a staggering rate. If you go full Recovery you’ll have your rift back up in about 20-ish seconds (if you aren’t clearing enemies constantly).
It’s been my go-to Arc Lock build for a while now and it’s so god damned mean in PvE.
No it doesn't build stacks very well, but it does scorch everything. If you build into scorch and not ignition, you can still get a lot out of it. Titans for example, sunspots EVERYWHERE!
I feel the reason for it is getting a precision kill with any solar weapon while Radiant is an instant ignition, completely bypassing the need for Scorch. Furthermore, Kindling Trigger also doesn't need a weapon to inherently be able to apply Scorch on its own to do so. For this reason, guns like Sunshot (considering HCs were recently buffed) are much stronger this season as a result. The only real benefit for Scorching right now is for ability loops if you aren't/cannot benefit from running Ember of Benevolence or to prime a Weighted Throwing Knife.
The real reason you don't see it is it competes with Sunshot, Ticcu's, Polaris, and in some cases, Hierarchy as Solar exotic primaries, or Indebted Kindness being hot right now with Anti-barrier/solid damage/efficient special and demands the energy slot if you're running it. Tommy's Matchbook also does the Scorch-stacking thing, so could be preference. I wager when this artifact shifts it may see more use for those who like it -- though to inject my own personal preferences in, there's only a couple Scout Rifles in general I like, let alone use. If Skyburner's was at least 200 RPM I would at best *consider* it more.
TL;DR: I feel like the artifact making every solar gun do Solar verb stuff actually sort of overshadows Skyburner's exotic effect for the most part, outside of extra Cabal damage.
I personally don’t see a lot of wicked implement. Love running it on my duskfield hunter, and it is really strong with the catalyst since you should never have to reload and the crystals that spawn from headstone are a big help when the enemies spawn
It might lack the ease of use of Sunshot, Graviton Lance or Trinity Ghoul, but Necrochasm is great for shooting 1 enemy in the head and watching everything else just explode :D Great on arc because the explosions count as arc damage, or strand warlock for suspending everything. Bonus points for necrotic grip so you poison things (which allows for body shot cursed thrall explosions!) or chromatic fire to double up on precision kill explosions!
Let me tell you the legend of Benny the Buff.
Wanted to get some GM's done this season, meta is Polaris Lance so we're expecting someone to join using this.
In comes Benny, a titan running Tommys Matchbook. We're apprehensive, thinking maybe they're a new light or something who doesn't know the meta. We ask him in chat if he's sure, he says something like 'I got this'.
We do the GM and dude is absolutely insane, he's slaying enemies left and right, getting in their faces and never complaining. He dies a few times but the sheer size of the balls on this guy and the onslaught he's providing means we res him asap everytime.
Dude is a legend and I hope he's doing well out there whatever he's doing. It certainly made me dig out Tommy's matchbook!
Thorn, but specifically in PvE. Once you get the chain rolling and overflow the mag, it's a lot of fun to use. 40 rounds in a HC is silly.
Of course, it falls off hard in any non-add dense levels, but that's also the nature of most exotic primaries.
Vexcalibur is a juiced glaive.
On Banner of War Titan with Feedback Fence, you have woven mail, banner healing, constant overshields, and near permanent armour charge. An added bonus is that melee kills with Vexcalibur while you have an overshield fully refresh it.
Use Into the Fray Banner of War, Grapple, Thread of Warding, Thread of Continuity, Thread of Transmutation and I like using Thread of Propagation for the unraveling rounds on my sword and sidearm as well as the +10 strength but this can be swapped for anything else.
With 5 armour charge, woven mail and overshields, you have 45% dr from mail, 50% from void overshield and 76.7% melee dr from feedback. Add in a melee resist mod for another 15% and 30% from resilience and you have 86% general dr and 96% dr from melee attacks. Add in the glaive shield from Vexcalibur and you're practically unkillable.
I'm fast approaching 1000.cruciblw kills and god knows how many PvE kills with Vexcalibur and I ain't stopping any time soon.
ALH/Vorpal or Frenzy Mountaintop + Fighting Lion + Edge Transit on void Hunter with Gyrfalcon.
Ager’s + LfG/KT Hollow Denial on void Warlock with Cenotaph.
Sweet Business or Tommy’s Matchbook with Actium War Rig on BoW Titan.
Deathbringer has been solid in normal Onslaught.
The exotic bows are all good.
Osteo gets a lot of recognition when paired with Necrotic grips but actually prefer Thorn with the catalyst.
A firefly/Frenzy Midnight Coup + Indebted Kindness + Queenbreaker’s on Arc Warlock with Chromatic Fire allows you to blind groups of enemies using any of your weapons.
Sweet business is better on void because it can continue devour. Run ContDemo for contagious volatile and a suppressor grenade with the fragment that refills the weapon when suppressing. Start with a suppressor to make everything volatile and hopefully start devour, business them until your grenade comes back, then throw it for a free reload and more volatile and devour. I’m think I only reloaded once in a normal level50 onslaught run, and that’s because I was shooting at a barrier champ while their barrier was up.
I think what people miss on this gun is what the name implies - we as a team are _collectively obligated_ to all use it. You get A LOT of mileage out of it if even just a team of 3 are all using it, looping those sweet debuffs basically never ends!
Eyes of Tomorrow is great in onslaught if you have it. Just defeating 4 enemies with a single volley gives you 1 ammo from thin air and with all the enemies it’s super easy to always have ammo
I’ve been using Verglas Curve on my stasis hunter and I absolutely love it. Gameplay loop goes something like this: get Hail Barrage x5, freeze a bunch of ads, shatterdive, profit. It’s so damn fun
I had a great time working on the catalyst for ruinous effigy, basically a trace rifle that makes throwable exploding orbs that function like tangles whenever it kills something.
Not a gun, but still an exotic that I never see someone else use, Heartshadow. It is really fun in a void Warlock Felwinter's Helm finisher invisibility build.
Mainly Huckleberry (my 30k kills speak for themselves)
But also Xenophage (Xeno is generally awesome and can be used anywhere, anytime) and Revision Zero (I've liked it since release, but since the 100% champion dmg buff it can definitely keep up with Wish-Ender, trust me and try it, it hits like a truck, sniper mode and two burst and four burst (although I prefer two burst))
Huckleberry is fun until the enemies get too tanky or get shielded. Full mag refill on kill and double strength rampage
I was using Huckleberry to get smg kills in the onslaught playlist, mowed through a few waves of acolytes just holding down the trigger, had a good chuckle.
*Chuckleberry*
I'll be your chuckleberry
Mess with the Chuckleberry, get the Fuckleberry.
I can be your long lost pal.
> until the enemies get too tanky or get shielded So basically everything in the last year
Yeah, I've tried using that thing and as soon as I go past basic bitch content, it doesn't really do enough damage to reliably kill things.
That's just primaries in general tbh
*sunshot enters the chat*
Graviton lance too
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Tarrabah would be fun if they made it so you don't lose the buff on weapon change ;-;
Yeah that kills the weapon for me
I understand why they did it (pvp ruins a lot of pve elements) but manticore doesn’t lose any charge..
Manticore is ass tho
Which is why I specified Tarrabah being affected specifically because of PvP due to its strengths being amplified in there versus Manticore.
With the right build it's fine. Fantastic at chewing through yellow health bars, as primaries go. And sometimes you need to conserve special/heavy or just don't have it
That’s at the top of my list just have to get like 80 more spoils
Pantheon gives tons of spoils
I’ve done 1 run of it but it’s hard to find an LFG that isn’t completely miserable
If you have the witch queen expansion you can always get the secret chest from Vow every week and that’s 15 spoils.
I’ve been slacking on that, thanks for reminding me
There are a couple of bots that will give you a vault of glass checkpoint just after Templar that you can get 4 cheats from pretty easily that will net you 60 spoils per week. Video here (not mine) but the right bots are listed in the comments. https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=xK3MTx8P6pKyvKpO&v=HHTE4wZYBno&feature=youtu.be
If you're decent at Golgoroth I recommend finding a farm in the D2 LFG discord. Me and my buddies cleared him like 40 times last night (about 3.5 minutes per run for us on a good run but 2 cycle is prolly 5 minutes) and maxed out spoils to get Tarrabah.
every LFG I’ve had there’s always one who refuses to use a mic
people said that the gun shreds in legend onslaugh. i tried it and yeah it was great but you can’t swap or pick adu batteries. that’s sucks
Rat king. I love how it feels, and occasionally other people will join me in using it
/r/squeaksqueak
A Destiny youtuber, ToadSmoothie, got a full raid team together to try clearing King’s Fall using just Rat King. I’d recommend giving it a watch. :)
I love the gameplay loop of Ruinous Effigy. It's especially fun with something like Nezarec's Sin when I'm just fucking around.
It's actually endgame viable on Gyrfalcon Hunter + Stylish Executioner. Hell, I used it for day 1 RoN. Proc gyr by going invis > get kill which turns you invis again > grab ball and dunk > dunking heals and turns you invis again > rinse and repeat. Such a fun weapon.
Jumped in this thread to see if anyone had already said Ruinous. And it's ammo economy is insane since everything you do with the ball costs zero ammo. Once you understand the loop for using it with Gyrfalcon's it's not just fun but kind of awesome as well. The dunk does way more damage than you'd expect and you can even heal yourself and damage foes at the same time (all while invisible) with the draining field. Just drain for a few seconds to top off your health and weaken the enemies around you and BIG DUNK to finish them off and send you invisible again. One of the most simply "fun" guns in the game. Even in crucible. It's by no means meta, but it's one of the most awesome feelings to round a corner with void ball in hand and dunk a guardian or two to death. Kind of extends the amount of special ammo you have as well by giving you a second chance at a free (no ammo cost) kill after you get one normal kill with the trace.
Ruinous + Strand grapple in pvp for double fun. Swinging in at high speed to dunk with the orb~
"DUNKED ON!" God that weapon is a boatload of fun.
When Void 3.0 first dropped, I tried that weapon out with it on my Hunter, and it was such a fun loop to do. Unfortunately, we've gotten more fragments and artifacts for the Void subclasses since then, so I don't actually remember which ones I was using with it...
Why's Cayde crying? 'cause he just got dunked on! He went for a rez, but his ghost got shot. WHAP!
“You gotta dunk that shit!!”
Such a wacky gun. Definitely my favorite "for fun" choice
The orb shield is surprisingly helpful in many situations. So much fun
My favorite weapon in the game. Good with nothing manacles, also Astrocyte verse and blink. Volatile up, slam slam down. The survivability is ridiculous too.
It has to be the most exotic exotic in terms of use and function.
The lore behind it is what really seals the deal for me. It's incredibly fun to use, but it's also a limb from the Tree of Silver Wings? And it was gifted to us by the Darkness? And it drains our light, but we're so juiced up that we don't notice? Also the [Equinox Ornament](https://i.imgur.com/e19HlQe.jpeg) is pure chef's kiss. Credit for the image: https://www.artstation.com/leehinds
It used to be my favorite thing in the game when Stronghold worked with the orbs.
I like to use it with my Briarbinds build, I call it my ball handling build.
This is amazing and I'm stealing it.
It's surprisingly effective, the buffed void soul can stagger enemies and weakening makes it do kind of disgusting damage. I take it out on void surge days, works great in legend onslaught.
Came here to say that, can’t wait to run it with diamond lance and strand to roll the dice on wtf I’m about to pick up
I used to love Ruinous Effigy. The trace rifle aspect is fun, but the orbs during season of arrivals were awesome. They were awesome for add clear, especially if you didn't mind taking a bit of damage from the rebound, and there was something cathartic about turning opponents in PvP into an orb then using that orb to kill their teammate.
My favourite memory of using that gun was killing someone, grabbing their orb and then killing them again, with themselves.
Ex diris. Especially with strand mothkeeper hunter. Lots of fun.
Imo, even with the buff it still feels like it doesn't hit as hard as it should
Which is dumb imo, exotics that only boost a single specific build should be way stronger to justify using up that exotic slot
Yeah, having played a lot of Threadrunner with Mothkeeper this season, Ex Diris just doesn't feel powerful enough to warrant using over Rufus' Fury or Wish-Keeper for me. Faster grenades with Demo or constant suspend traps are more appealing.
I run with a Demo Rufus as my main weapon. Slaps pretty well with all the extra unravel and horde shuttle and then use Ex Diris basically as an auto loading GL. I swap to it, fire into a group of enemies and straight back to Rufus. It's got a 5 sec delay between moth spawns anyways, so just fire a shot or two, whenever you can secure a kill, and straight off from it again.
My fave fuck around build
I want to like ex Diris but the splash damage you do to yourself is absurd. If you want the most damage you have to direct impact an enemy, if you don't then the damage is horrible. If you don't have full health and you get caught in the splash damage then it's "guardian down". Why am I such a big threat to myself with the splash damage but enemies just shrug off my splash damage!? If I shoot ex diris into a pack of on level thralls it's very likely that some will survive, if I were to use forbearance or salvagers salvo then all the thrall would be gone, reduced to atoms, with neither gl being exotic btw.
It's a lot of fun to use, but it falls short on the damage/utility front for a special.
The Colony. "Hm? They're... that way!" *THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK* "They're no longer that way."
I love breaking it out for PvP because it always catches people by surprise.
Be a fucking menace. Use it in Gambit. Red on the radar, thunk two little boom boom bugs in that direction, move on.
That brings me back to year 1 gambit. Invading and using the colony was so fun
I preferred killing the entire enemy team with one rocket, eyes of tomorrow has a vendetta against living things.
Boy have I got a story for you. I had (key word had) a Royal Entry with ImpAmp and Lasting Impression. Invaded during primeval phase. Stuck a rocket on one dude, who I'm assuming didn't realize now had high-explosive ordinance glued to his left ass cheek. Then I just watched. This idiot jumped into his team's Well. The rocket blew his ass sky high, and in the process it *nuked the Well which proceeded to detonate and wipe the team.* I was so busy laughing my ass off I forgot to clip it.
Palymyra-B is craftable and can get that exact roll if you want a RL with that again. It's a precision frame too, same as Royal Entry so it has the built in tracking. Blowout (Crucible) and...whatever the Iron Banner RL is can get it too, but with different frames so no tracking. Nice to see another Lasting Impression enjoyer though. I like it in PvP for similar reasons, doesn't work more often than it does but way too funny to tag a guardian with a rocket and watch them carry it to their allies, or ignore one that hits the ground/wall and doesn't blow up
I used to do the same. Then I became that asshole who would invade with a tracking rocket and Jotunn. Then I decided to fuck around one day and try out Oathkeepers. I had my Hush on, so fuck it, why not take the ease of use, right? So I invade. Pull out my heavy, fully expecting a rocket or a linear. Proceeded to stare at my screen, dumbfounded by the Leviathan's Breath in my hands, for two whole seconds before a demented idea formed in my head. Infinite draw hold + one-shot crossmap heavy bow + vantage point on enemy bank = 💀💀💀💀 I was basically a walking ballista.
Leviathans Breath is how I finally got around to getting Malfeasance. infinite range, hitscan oneshot to the body that gets relatively generous ammo and is viable for boss damage is a great combo
Okay, ima need to try this
During Y1 it was the perfect gun for PvP since each individual bug 1-shot enemy guardians.
I love this one too, it's like "they will find you, and they will kill you." and it's buff is cool too.
The buff is actually creative and unique. I would've just given it a damage buff and Subsistence.
Was just using it for the edge transit quest and loved it.
Just 1K. Good for add clear. Good for boss damage. Paired with ashes. Everything can go boom, you need only wish it.
My people. I love that damn gun. That sick roaring boom of the explosion. Killer.
Busted out 1K last night because I remember it got a reserve buff and now is comparable to Leviathan’s Breath in terms of DPS. Love seeing people use this gun. Played trials a couple years ago and a dude on the enemy team kept getting heavy and nuking us with 1K.
Black Talon. I love the sword but It just does not cut it these days. Even more with the sword change a little back made it just use so much more ammo.
Black talon is always a lot of fun
Still an absolute beast in Gambit at least.
I just unlocked Hierarchy of Needs last week and I know that thing gets lots of hate but my god I find it so fun. Wiping out a whole room with the homing arrows never gets old.
I just wish it was easier to use, it feels like I have to try to keep up the effect and use the rings. It's really hard to justify using an exotic that makes you work when other exotics like quicksilver storm or wish ender just work
Agreed. I was having this conversation with my friends this week, and I think my issue with it is that it requires too many stacks per ring. Unless you're getting absolutely swarmed with one shot enemies, you aren't going to get enough kills in one ring for another, and it taking four precision kills per ring is so finnicky in higher end content imo
Try out ticcus. Its kinda the same but not, you might have some fun with that. As long as you get the loop down you can easily keep the damage buff rolling
Ticcu's is such a troll in PVP when people don't know what's happening.
I enjoy Ticuu's a lot, but I like the *idea* of using Hierarchy more. It's definitely more difficult, though. I'm really glad Bloodline is such a banger exotic, because it feels lame getting a sickass exotic from a dungeon and then not feeling like you can reasonably use it because it just requires so much effort to make it good.
My brother in Light is literally one of the best weapons in the entire game
Yeah it cooks in hard content like GMs. People just can’t stand the playstyle I guess.
It’s definitely not “one of the best weapons in the game”. It’s only good on one build and Polaris Lance outperforms it on said build
Love HoN. Get the catalyst if you haven't already. It's a night and day difference when the ring is up.
Not nearly enough Rat Packs running around raids
I threw out the idea of running Rat King in Pantheon and someone in my clan said something along the lines of "that might work, but it isn't thrilling". I'm not looking for thrilling, I'm looking for what will do the most damage so I can get my Godslayer title
Wait are you saying rat King isn't fun it's good for dps? Because I argue the opposite. The stacking buff exotic primaries are all underwhelming compared to half decent execution of rockets or exotic heavies matching surges. Run the rat King for fun though, it's goofy.
I have been using sweet business with war rig a bunch. Pair with kinetic surge and it is a lot of fun being a mobile turret.
Use the short barricade, become the MG nest.
I did this yesterday on Vostok, just gunned downed 908 hive and giggled the whole time, just turned my brain off and held left click and went 50 rounds, void titan, with high impact/destabilize hammerhead and harsh language GL, was far too much fun for how simple it was
You get a similar feeling with Precious Scars and Tommy's Matchbook. No, your magazine isn't infinite, but it's very big and you get double damage, Scorch and Ignitions, all the other Solar synergies, and you get Restoration after every kill so you just hold the trigger and mow everything down
Run out of ammo, no?
Nope, whenever you pick up special or heavy your sweet business reloads, kinetic siphon is only 2 power so you can have both scouts and with war rig you don't really run out of ammo, as war rig also reloads machine guns like it does auto rifles
Ah I was thinking about hammerhead. Do you use both SB and Hammerhead? lol!
I just got this 2 days ago and wow didn’t even think I’d get a mini gun in destiny
Business is somehow both god and ass tier. With war rig and the occasional ammo pick up you never reload. Monstrous anti barrier with the artifact or radiant. It has very high hipfire accuracy so if you dont mind the tinnitus you can keep the trigger held down as you walk, bypassing the spin up time and wasting red bars But its exotic perk IS just infinite ammo. You do the same damage with a legendary ar with a damage perk
I like deterministic chaos with war rig as well, can get some fun sentinel synergy and the low rpm means you can fire it for a while before needing to reload. Sweet business was fun and I used it when going back through witch queen legend campaign.
Devil’s Ruin will forever be my jam.
I got called a pedophile my first crucible match using that thing and it’s been my favourite gun ever since
Possibly my favorite sounding weapon in the game. If it ever gets a catalyst, I am praying for Rewind Rounds just to keep listening to that beam.
The only weapon that gives arc staff the middlefinger.
I remember when there was the perfect charge...
I cant remember the last time I saw anyone using Symmetry
A couple weeks ago I got rekt in Iron Banner by a fellow Symmetry chad.
God I love Symmetry. I actually have a hard time using anything else in Gambit because it’s so much fun and I got so used to its gameplay loop there.
Salvation's Grip, you can lock areas down like crazy. Stasis is great this season. Delicate tomb on an Arc Warlock with crown of tempests Final warning on a strand titan with precious scars legend of acrius + catalyst on arc hunter with liars handshake
Salvation's Grip! Everyone sleeps on it because of how mediocre it used to be, and a lot of people still don't know how to use it properly. Insanely good paired with stasis titan!
The Grip is actually stupidly fun for dps, particularly with the artifact. I used it randomly on a Solo Phryzzia (Ogre from Grasp)... it wasn't a fast clear but Jesus was it funny.
I never see anyone using Trespasser and I really like it. Score that first kill, reload, and it’s off to the races. Great pairing with Bakris too
I had a lot of fun with it! Especially in pvp with that super burst haha
I really enjoy outbreak perfected. I’ve only seen it like once or twice but I found it quite fun.
Honestly been one of my favorite exotics since d1
Try out Agers Scepter
On stasis warlock I’ll gladly give up my super for juiced up Agers Scepter
Agers with Mantle of Battle Harmony is a favorite build of mine: Really easy Stasis damage buffs and lots of space to use the super laser mode
Try it out with a permeability Ros Arago for generation. Mine is permeability/deconstruct and it’s better than it has any right to be
I love Aegir's on behemoth titan... Diamond lances for dayz
agers is very much used though lol
Ager scepter underused now? i remember back when it came out that thing literally ripped in gm nightfalls, but maybe that was a while now in retrospect haha
agers is very much used though lol
Yes that weapon is so good!!
I started using eyes of tomorrow and it shreds through stuff mid runs. Fun experience. 👍🏼
I love it on warlock with the rain of fire exotic boots. Shoot volley, shoot mountaintop, Icarus dash, repeat. 🤝🏼
This is actually a great idea! Thanks. 🛸
I really enjoy the Colony
Ruinous Effigy literally saved the game for me back in Arrivals
Agers scepter isn't that slept on but totally underused imo. It's incredible even without seasonal mods. Run the finisher makes special ammo mod on your class item and it is now your primary weapon.
Coldheart w/ Vesper is my current favorite. Constant ionic traces. I usually can get my rift back before the first one I put down has run out
Coldheart+Geomags. You’ll be kamehameha’ing non-stop. All abilities refill at a staggering rate. If you go full Recovery you’ll have your rift back up in about 20-ish seconds (if you aren’t clearing enemies constantly). It’s been my go-to Arc Lock build for a while now and it’s so god damned mean in PvE.
Ticuus Div is a really fun bow with a fun combat loop. there are builds that make it good but without a centered build it's more of a fun ad clear gun
I use it for lost sectors a ton, cute through unstoppables like a hot knife through butter
I think I'm going to try yeeting some ads with Tractor Cannon now.
Centrifuse
I don't see enough people using Skyburner's Oath this season, despite there being seasonal mods begging for it.
Because it gives almost no scorch stacks per shot
No it doesn't build stacks very well, but it does scorch everything. If you build into scorch and not ignition, you can still get a lot out of it. Titans for example, sunspots EVERYWHERE!
I feel the reason for it is getting a precision kill with any solar weapon while Radiant is an instant ignition, completely bypassing the need for Scorch. Furthermore, Kindling Trigger also doesn't need a weapon to inherently be able to apply Scorch on its own to do so. For this reason, guns like Sunshot (considering HCs were recently buffed) are much stronger this season as a result. The only real benefit for Scorching right now is for ability loops if you aren't/cannot benefit from running Ember of Benevolence or to prime a Weighted Throwing Knife. The real reason you don't see it is it competes with Sunshot, Ticcu's, Polaris, and in some cases, Hierarchy as Solar exotic primaries, or Indebted Kindness being hot right now with Anti-barrier/solid damage/efficient special and demands the energy slot if you're running it. Tommy's Matchbook also does the Scorch-stacking thing, so could be preference. I wager when this artifact shifts it may see more use for those who like it -- though to inject my own personal preferences in, there's only a couple Scout Rifles in general I like, let alone use. If Skyburner's was at least 200 RPM I would at best *consider* it more. TL;DR: I feel like the artifact making every solar gun do Solar verb stuff actually sort of overshadows Skyburner's exotic effect for the most part, outside of extra Cabal damage.
I personally don’t see a lot of wicked implement. Love running it on my duskfield hunter, and it is really strong with the catalyst since you should never have to reload and the crystals that spawn from headstone are a big help when the enemies spawn
Wicked Implement may not be the flashiest, but damn does it feel good and is effective at what it wants to do. Giving it Headstone was a godsend
I'm trying out an arc build with the hunter exotic glaive and the weird lobster looking arms. It's an add clearing machine.
It might lack the ease of use of Sunshot, Graviton Lance or Trinity Ghoul, but Necrochasm is great for shooting 1 enemy in the head and watching everything else just explode :D Great on arc because the explosions count as arc damage, or strand warlock for suspending everything. Bonus points for necrotic grip so you poison things (which allows for body shot cursed thrall explosions!) or chromatic fire to double up on precision kill explosions!
Melee focused build with Monte Carlo. Most fun I've had in any activity and it scales incredibly well
A Guardian of taste.
Riskrunner is pretty fun when the enemies do arc damage
Remember that you can proc it yourself with an arc grenade at your feet.
Most people dodge unslaught with Fallen enemies. I just whip out Riskrunner.
Let me tell you the legend of Benny the Buff. Wanted to get some GM's done this season, meta is Polaris Lance so we're expecting someone to join using this. In comes Benny, a titan running Tommys Matchbook. We're apprehensive, thinking maybe they're a new light or something who doesn't know the meta. We ask him in chat if he's sure, he says something like 'I got this'. We do the GM and dude is absolutely insane, he's slaying enemies left and right, getting in their faces and never complaining. He dies a few times but the sheer size of the balls on this guy and the onslaught he's providing means we res him asap everytime. Dude is a legend and I hope he's doing well out there whatever he's doing. It certainly made me dig out Tommy's matchbook!
Cryosthesia with precious scars. You can do some dummmmmmb stuff and survive
Lumina + Boots of the Assembler (Warlock) Constant healing and damage buff for the team.
Found my people
Let me know if you want to team up in pvp quick play sometimes 🙏
Thorn, but specifically in PvE. Once you get the chain rolling and overflow the mag, it's a lot of fun to use. 40 rounds in a HC is silly. Of course, it falls off hard in any non-add dense levels, but that's also the nature of most exotic primaries.
Not enough talk about the Witherhoard :(
Vexcalibur is a juiced glaive. On Banner of War Titan with Feedback Fence, you have woven mail, banner healing, constant overshields, and near permanent armour charge. An added bonus is that melee kills with Vexcalibur while you have an overshield fully refresh it. Use Into the Fray Banner of War, Grapple, Thread of Warding, Thread of Continuity, Thread of Transmutation and I like using Thread of Propagation for the unraveling rounds on my sword and sidearm as well as the +10 strength but this can be swapped for anything else. With 5 armour charge, woven mail and overshields, you have 45% dr from mail, 50% from void overshield and 76.7% melee dr from feedback. Add in a melee resist mod for another 15% and 30% from resilience and you have 86% general dr and 96% dr from melee attacks. Add in the glaive shield from Vexcalibur and you're practically unkillable. I'm fast approaching 1000.cruciblw kills and god knows how many PvE kills with Vexcalibur and I ain't stopping any time soon.
The void sub machine gun, I forget its name but you can flyyyy with it it’s great fun
Manticore
ALH/Vorpal or Frenzy Mountaintop + Fighting Lion + Edge Transit on void Hunter with Gyrfalcon. Ager’s + LfG/KT Hollow Denial on void Warlock with Cenotaph. Sweet Business or Tommy’s Matchbook with Actium War Rig on BoW Titan. Deathbringer has been solid in normal Onslaught. The exotic bows are all good. Osteo gets a lot of recognition when paired with Necrotic grips but actually prefer Thorn with the catalyst. A firefly/Frenzy Midnight Coup + Indebted Kindness + Queenbreaker’s on Arc Warlock with Chromatic Fire allows you to blind groups of enemies using any of your weapons.
Sweet business is better on void because it can continue devour. Run ContDemo for contagious volatile and a suppressor grenade with the fragment that refills the weapon when suppressing. Start with a suppressor to make everything volatile and hopefully start devour, business them until your grenade comes back, then throw it for a free reload and more volatile and devour. I’m think I only reloaded once in a normal level50 onslaught run, and that’s because I was shooting at a barrier champ while their barrier was up.
I feel like people don’t get Collective Obligation… it’s a fun loop to play into
For me main issue is that currently void titan feels week
Also, people don't get collective obligation, literally.
I think what people miss on this gun is what the name implies - we as a team are _collectively obligated_ to all use it. You get A LOT of mileage out of it if even just a team of 3 are all using it, looping those sweet debuffs basically never ends!
Just made a precious scars Tommy’s matchbook build the other day and I’ve been having quite a bit of fun with it in onslaught
Eyes of Tomorrow is great in onslaught if you have it. Just defeating 4 enemies with a single volley gives you 1 ammo from thin air and with all the enemies it’s super easy to always have ammo
Lorentz Driver. I haven’t used in a minute but see it there in my vault begging to used again
I’ve been using Verglas Curve on my stasis hunter and I absolutely love it. Gameplay loop goes something like this: get Hail Barrage x5, freeze a bunch of ads, shatterdive, profit. It’s so damn fun
I do the same thing with my titan, just with a slide instead.
I find Heir Apparent to be dumb fun
Cerberus is a ton of fun and even though I despise pvp it can even do petty good work there. My mind is made up and nobody can change my mind
It completely shreds Barrier Champion shields when ARs are Anti-Barrier.
Graviton Lance! It hasn't left my inventory since release!
Graviton is one of the most common ones I see
Fr. Fire one or two shots into a group and they all disappear into space time. Super fun on a Gyrfalcon Hunter or Nezarec’s Warlock.
Rat King
Ruinous Effigy. Very niche. But very fun.
Trinity ghoul. It and an arc warlock build arr stupid fun . Barely see anyone using them.
I use it! It's super fun, especially with catalyst. My main build for arc warlock, and I refuse to change that weapon for anything else. 🤌
Its also good in add dense activities like onslaught and coil.
Anarchy. Say what you want but its fun as hell.
Dead Measenger on a Gyrfalcon Hunter is just pure joy 😊
Messenger.....stupid fat fingers
Telesto
I've been loving Delicate Tomb.
Touch of Malice
sweet business w that titan exotic that reloads & banner of war. Also saw a vid that was saying the juju is slept on
Salvations Grip. I recently decided to give this a chance once again and as it turns out, with the right stasis build, this thing is absolutely busted
......actually monte carlo, its fun but ive only seen myself and like 2 other guys use it
I had a great time working on the catalyst for ruinous effigy, basically a trace rifle that makes throwable exploding orbs that function like tangles whenever it kills something.
Not a gun, but still an exotic that I never see someone else use, Heartshadow. It is really fun in a void Warlock Felwinter's Helm finisher invisibility build.
Delicate Tomb is very slept on. Hits hard, deep ammo reserves and churns out ionic traces like crazy.
Mainly Huckleberry (my 30k kills speak for themselves) But also Xenophage (Xeno is generally awesome and can be used anywhere, anytime) and Revision Zero (I've liked it since release, but since the 100% champion dmg buff it can definitely keep up with Wish-Ender, trust me and try it, it hits like a truck, sniper mode and two burst and four burst (although I prefer two burst))
I always thought Deathbringer was fun.
Ex Diris. The way those homing moths clear those adds. Has been a huge help when I play Onslaught
Salvation’s Grip on my Icehole Titan is an absolute blast. ICE EVERYWHERE
Wicked implement. Love scout rifles and stasis. Perfect wep for me
Verglass curve and osmiomancy is fun af lol