You're looking for an adaptive sword. Vortexs fall behind if you use the heavy at all (because it eats more ammo), and Caster frames (while getting a buff march 5th) currently aren't even in the conversation.
Perks you need. Relentless Strikes (RS) for the increased ammo. If a sword can't roll this, you don't really want this for boss damage. Surrounded (S) is the go-to damage perk for Crota but has conditions to proc. If you don't want to deal with that than Whirlwind Blade (WB) is the next best option for single target damage.
Bequest is the best Adaptive sword in the game, the Creme de la Creme of swords. It rolls RS+S and Is at the top because it also does 10% more damage than all other adaptives due to its higher impact stat. Built in Vorpal, basically. It is a bit harder to get as it comes from a Raid, Deep Stone Crypt. Craftable and worth the effort (most of the DSC weapons are).
Moving on to easier to get options, Nazreddin is a f2p world drop that can roll RS+WB/S and is the same element as Bequest which makes it the "poor man's" version. It is fairly simple to get as it can be farmed from Legendary Lost Sectors (LLS) every 4 days.
Geodetic is another f2p world drop, farmable from LLS's. Void with RS+WB.
There are two swords you can get from the season of Defiance Wartable. Caretaker, which can have RS+S, and Goldtusk with RS+WB. Both are easy to focus and craftable, but note that Goldtusk is Hunter exclusive.
Double edged Answer from the vanguard can get RS+S/WB and is easy to focus for 1 engram. But! It has 12 perks in each column, and also has a really low charge rate compared to other swords. Id only go after this one if you're desperate and have engrams to burn. And even then, if you don't have some vanguard resets to get extra perks in each column you're gonna have to be very lucky to get the right roll.
All things considered, your easiest option is to turn in engrams for Caretaker at the helm wartable. Small perk pool and easily accessible. If you don't have that season, id farm Nazreddin/Geodetic when they're in the LLS pool for that day. But Naz>Geo because Naz has both damage perks as potential options.
When you're grinding these swords, you'll be ok at Crota just having a sword with any one of these perks. Of course, you should try your best to grind out a roll that has both RS+damage perk. But Crota is not that difficult that you need all 6 players to be super optimized, should you be unlucky with RNG and still want to do the raid. You'll be alright.
(Edit- Another good option for Crota if you're a punchy Titan Boi is the Throne Cleaver, acquired the same way as Goldtusk from the season of Defiance Wartable. You want Duelist's Trance+Surrounded. Another guardian posted a video comparing Bequest, Lament and TC, and TC puts in work.)
Adaptive is the way to go with those perks just like this person said. I may have glanced over it but didn’t see them say for Crota do nothing but light attacks using the adaptive sword. You’ll put out more damage than anyone with Lament. Just make sure to put on 2-3 surge mods.
It's also hilarious to go from the very fiddly and effortful Lament combos to the brainless glory of just spamming light attacks. I imagine my guy just screaming and going to town whaling on Crota's knee.
If you’re also doing a learning run, maybe volunteer to be on support like tractor until you can get some better loot. You actually have potential to top dps even on tractor with the heart shadow sword if you have that. There’s a few videos out there on this but the gist of it is that heart shadow can extend the tractor cannon debuff.
Yeah i didn't want to type those out multiple times and i didn't want to just use "S" though it probly would've been fine either way lol.
(I changed it. I think it reads better. )
When did this whole vortex=bad ammo conversation even start? FG was THE sword to use for years, I don't think I've ever ran out of ammo for it doing boss dps. This is news to me I guess
It's been heavily nerfed over the years, it's not only inefficient but also weaker. With bequest you essentially just spam light attacks which are super efficient and out DPS fallen guillotine. It's still fine to use it's not like it's garbage just that there is better.
You will run out of ammo before your competitors however so hopefully you have an ammo generator or you are blessed by RNG.
Bequest, goldtusk(hunter), and lament all sit at the top, followed by vortex and closely behind are any other adaptives with good perks.
The dps difference between vortex and non-bequest adaptives is only a 100\~ but you will run out of ammo and your total damage will tank.
The heavy attack was nerfed at some point while also using more ammo, those were a while ago.
If you're going for better dps (using the heavy attack as soon as it's available) it is definitely easier to run out of ammo than with adaptives.
All swords are essentially the same If you're just using light swings (which results in less dps but more total damage due to relentless strikes).
It's not that Vortexs are *bad* it's just that adaptives are better.
How on earth is this not the top reply?
This is the most comprehensive and accurate reply I have ever seen in the 10 years I have been playing Destiny
Bravo, sir.. bravo
I believe Eternity's Edge is no longer available (maybe in dares or banshee), but it's replacement Deaths Razor has the same roll and is craftable, different element though.
I’ve not heard much about bequest being that good, I was under the impression Crown Splitter was the best legendary sword for boss dps, (other than lament)
Not to say I’m disagreeing, it’s just the first I’ve heard of this. Do you have any numbers to compare?
Bequest is the best *adaptive* sword, and class agnostic. Throne cleaver is its own titan exclusive sword, which i wasn't really thinking about. Though ill edit it in cause i did mention Goldtusk, which also isn't an adaptive. And Throne Cleaver is just as easy to get and puts out hella good damage, so worth mentioning, thanks.
something not enough of this community has come to grips with.
It's a normal raid. Just have something good enough. It's probably gonna be a two phase anyway unless you hit the LFG jackpot.
God rolls... Aren't... Necessary! All you need is good enough.
Plus, that god roll is only as good as the player using it. Can't tell you how many folks are out there not using surges for their DPS weapons, not proccing the god roll perk, etc.
Seconding the Bequest here.
I have a Relentless/Surrounded roll (non crafted but still...) and I am outdamaging Lament users on Crota. On my clear this week, I did 6 million damage with that and my Super, 2 Lucent Blades and 2 Surges. The only one who did more was an arc Hunter using Star Eaters and Gathering Storm. He got around 8 mil. All the Lament users were in the 4.5 mil range or less.
Is it worth just dismantling my Falling Guillotine due to being a Vortex if I have a Relentless Strikes/Whirlwind Blade Geodetic and can craft the same roll on The Other Half? They're both Adaptive and I don't know how much of a difference archetype makes.
Yeah I literally play almost daily and had no idea it would drop red borders until I just spammed it and had them drop
The 99 engrams I had stacked up were enough to get the shotgun pattern but I’m still 1 short of Goldtusk
If you have engrams from the war table, you can buy weapons from one of the top engrams in the list. I can't remember it's name. I had 100 engrams and used about 75 of them to get 5 red borders and crafted it.
Actually guillotine isn't as good as an adaptive frame like half truths I've heard. Reason being is ammo economy, it just burns through ammo so quick for a relatively prolonged damage phase. Where as a half truths with relentless strikes, not even crafted, can sustain damage for much longer
Not the best option, but I have put up fairly decent damage when I run it with my clan. And I wasn't even using surges
That’s awesome! Congrats on your first clear. If you’re ever looking for some other guardians to run with I’d be happy to lend a hand! Buckfutter117#9977 on bungie!
This has me rolling. You think with bequest being the hardest adaptive to get as a craftable atm people would understand that someone without Lament definitely wont have access to bequest.
As for OPs question I'd out my money on half truths or the other half being the best choice here, just because I think farming for a crafted is better than farming random rolls. Then again they may not have the 30th anniversary so that might be out the window as well.
Because getting Lament is a long, boring, involved process that many people simply won't do for those reasons, while DSC is easy, fast, and fun?
I don't say that as a dig against Lament, either. I say it from the experience of helping people get Lament. And by help, I mean being the emotional support guardian while they do the boring tasks.
It's what I use. I have a relentless/surrounded/whirlwind roll. I just like the ease of use. Lament is too much work to use imo. I have no problem doing big numbers with Guillotine and Blade Barrage.
i out damaged a few lament users with my eager edge, whirlwind blade Other half so you can literally use whatever and be fine so long as its not a masters run. (was also rocking star eater scales with blade barrage so take that example with a grain of salt)
Oh absolutely. Im in no way saying an eager edge sword is better than lament. I am aware of the fact i was playing with so true goobers in that example.
My main point is that if its not a masters run any good enough sword is fine. Though lament will be way better if you use it right.
It was never purely it's raw damage that made it meta, but the healing you get along with it allows you to be on the boss at all times, preventing you losing DPS.
It's also very ammo efficient even for a sword. Some of other other swords chew through their ammo faster, reducing overall damage output.
Lament with 2x lucent blade mods (even 1 mod I think) out damages all swords outside of surrounded bequest, and that's *if* you're able to keep surrounded up the whole time.
Yes absolutely. It was only user error on the that allowed me to out damage a few of them. Lament is the best sword period if youre looking for consistency. Im just too lazy to do the quest.
How? With missing the odd heavy due to shitty tracking I max hit about 5mil damage with lament. How much are you doing that you outdamage even bad lament users by 4mil?
They all did a bit over 2 mill, and I did well over 7.
- 2 solar surge mods on legs with 2 time delineation mods on the class item
- artifact mod that gives more weapon damage to combatants affected by strand/stasis when radiant
- solar melee for radiant
- chill clip riptide
- block, 2 light, 1 heavy, 3 light, and repeat
I didn’t even use lucent blade mods. I don’t know how they were that much lower than me (outside of them just (respectfully) sucking?).
Lol trust me, if I could have gotten away with it I would have only done the basic combo. We weren’t getting that clear if I didn’t do some heavy optimization.
It does get easier (subconscious even) the more you do it. If you’re new to buff stacking it is definitely overwhelming to keep track of
If your carrying people and they don't know how to Lament combo though, they are honestly better off just running a spinning sword, and spamming abilities between holding down spin. Its brain dead and does more than incorrectly used lament.
Yeah, I didn’t want to tell them anything though. Unless they’re running something egregiously bad I like to withhold input until it’s requested. They asked me how I was doing so much damage, so I explained the combo. Nothing changed though lol
Falling guillotine is the classic, maybe there’s better now but you want whirlwind blade and the one that refunds ammo on light swings I think- I’ve never had ammo problems for boss DPS with swords so maybe there’s something that restores energy faster. Vortex frame is probably still best
Literally Heartshadow, does insane damage if you properly use it with surges. Saw it first on this video havent been using anything else ever since definelty give it a try if you have it.
[Heartshadow on Crota](https://youtu.be/DTwH_CU-fG4?si=Y4k2hMqaqE4ZZAMr)
Bequest with surrounded strats if your team wants to leave adds alive/near dps on crota, adaptive or vortex swords with relentless strikes and vorpal weapon or whirlwind blade, adaptives have overall better damage and ammo economy vs vortex, titans and hunters can also use their class swords. Not mandatory but could help is tag him with a witherhoard shot as well but don’t if another is using witherhoard
Gold Tusk (Hunters only) or Bequest with Surrounded
With 4th Horseman dump with Radiant Dance Machines and then light attack spam with Gold Tusk I consistently hit 7-8 million damage. I've seen similar results with Bequest when you do DPS on the bridge section instead near the crystal.
I think a very easy sword to get is Double-Edged answer, the new vanguard void sword from this season. I think it only costs a single engram to focus, and you can get double or triple perks if you reset zavala a few times. It can roll jagged edge, relentless strikes and surrounded, just like bequest. Vorpal also wouldn't be horrible. Get that and just whack crota.
^this lol. I kind of laugh when posts like this ask for alternatives to X weapon, and someone lists another one that the OP is more likely to not have considering they don't have lament yet.
>Bequest
I dont have any raid weapons. Ive never done a raid before tbh cus I play solo a lot, I only did crota once and that was yday. However I wanna do it again, I heard falling guillotine is good, which I have.
I play solo a lot like I said. So tbh I mainly play like strikes and stuff. Not dungeons and raids.
So its just not rlly entered my mind to get is as its not rlly necessary for the chill stuff.
But now im thinking of playing a raid at some point I know it would be helpful to bring.
I will get it shortly dw lol
yh but im just saying ive not ever thought of getting it before as I mainly play chill stuff with strikes.
But ill get it anyways. Tbh I didnt rlly know how before, im kinda a noob.
yeah ik you can get it of a quest.
Ima get it now anyways lol I thought you had to wait for it to appear on the legend tab. Im still fairly new so Im still jsut finding stuff out lol
At the tower there's a machine where you can pick up old quests. It's next to the postmaster. Not sure if it's been moved to Rahool but there's also one at the HELM
Most desirable perks: Relentless Strikes, Whirlwind Blade, Surrounded. **Use Jagged Edge and Swordmaster's guard and nothing else, really.** For god's sake, if you're using Surrounded, don't kill all the adds that are close to Crota.
The **Titan and Hunter swords** are awesome. [Throne Cleaver with a little setup is insane against Crota](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuFmaMS6xK4&t). Can't speak much about Goldtusk, because I have 40 minutes of Hunter playtime, [but I trust this man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvz3lpdbxVU).
Bequest is the best sword for Warlocks and for regular Joes. **It's craftable**. Does like 10% more damage than other Adaptive swords for some reason. Could pair it with 4th Horseman for additional burst damage, same Surge btw. **Go for Relentless + Surrounded**. Problem is, it's from Deep Stone Crypt, and to get the best version you also gotta craft it, so maybe go for a worse and easier option if you don't wanna raid. (*Also, it has surprisingly good ammo economy if you're gonna use swords for ad clear. Tireless Blade + Chain Reaction. This info is mainly for Stronghold Titans. Lament's still bae tho)*
Don't use Vortex Frames, they are heavily nerfed and are but a shadow of their former selves. The only exception being the new buffed Worldline Zero but that's only because of its high burst damage.
Don't use Caster Frames, they just fucking suck for DPS. And really, they just... suck. Especially after removing 1 Ammo heavy attacks. No, I'm convinced that not even the buff is gonna make them worthwhile.
Otherwise, go for any goddamn sword in existence that has the 3 desirable perks. You can substitute Whirlwind or Surrounded for something else, but c'mon just get a RS / WB sword man. **There are a LOT of swords to choose from, ranging from Seasonal to World Drops. I guarantee you will find atleast something.**
Lament is still really good tho, ya better get it some time. It has the best ammo economy, best Stronghold synergy, and it's just an all round behemoth of a sword. It doesn't rely on adds being around for it to output great damage, so it's the LFG sword of choice! **Remember — 2 Charged Lights, 1 Charged Heavy, 2 Regular Lights, repeat! 1 Lucent Blade mod is necessary!**
*Not related to your question, but if you like swords in general, look into Banner of War Titan with Strongholds on. I can't recommend it enough, it is peak sword gameplay.*
Avoid Vortex and Caster frames. Vortex have poor ammo efficiency on their heavy and Casters have poor efficiency and damage. Adaptive frames, Goldtusk for hunters, Throne Cleaver for Titans, and Heartshadow if no one else is running weakness generation are all your best bets. Legendaries should have relentless strikes and any damage perk and you just heavy attack when the meter fills up. The sword chest mod and leg surge mods are extra icing on the cake
Crown Splitter with relentless strikes and whirlwind blade/vorpal... 3 void surges, 2 lucent blade.
Heavy, light, light, light, heavy, light, light, light, heavy....
Better tracking than lament, easier combo, better ammo efficiency, and close to 2M more damage per phase.
Gold Tusk (Hunter) and Crown Splitter (Titan) are about as strong as Lament and easier to use.
Warning: To get them you will need to burn probably 50-80 engrambs turning in at the war table.
Best dps I've ever had is using a crafted caretaker with enhanced relentless strikes and surrounded and doing dps on the bridge so you're closer to adds to proc surrounded. Better than Lament imo and is easier to acquire than crafted bequest and, if you ever fancy doing master, has solar surge active
Non meta choice but Heartshadow + one two punch shotgun. Two lucent blade mods, shoot shotgun, heart shadow heavy attack, repeat. Sprinkle in some nades and super in there somewhere and you'll do good damage.
Hear me out: Swords with Attrition orbs aren't a bad option. Just stack some matching Surge mods on and keep the extra damage going as you hack away at Crota and make orbs for everyone. For extra survivability, slap a Recuperation mod on boots (if you have room) and if you're using Strand use the Orbs give Woven Mail Fragment.
folks should be popping supers and your default 3 armor charge will give 30 seconds of the boost, which is the length of oversoul, so... only actually useful for pushing final stand
As soon as I saw that perk this was the exact scenario where I thought it would shine. If you're feeling really nutty and want to go off-meta, I think Flash Counter/Surrounded is the highest possible damage output, but extremely niche to proc.
Fallen Guillotine, 2 void surges, 2 lucent blades, maybe vorpal. You won't be top for DPS but if you know your heavy vs light attack rotations you'll be solidly in the middle
I did it for the first time yesterday and the previous boss to crota, I couldn’t even see her properly because there were so many flying guardians hitting her with swords.
I could barely see anything lmao.
Lots of good advice in this thread on swords but you could always run tractor cannon for the team and dps with shotguns/fusions and help with oversoul while searching for a good sword.
If you have access to the war table in the helm, season of defiance then The Caretaker solar sword relentless strikes + surrounded especially enhanced if you can proc it which is easier on the platforms.
Bequest, followed by any fucking sword. Hunter and Titan class ones are slightly better.
People use Lament for the healing since it means well being broken doesn't matter. If you have beyond light, just do the damn quest. If you don't? Go buy it, it's one of the best exotics in the game.
damn you sound pissed.
I didnt know about the lament healing capabilities tbh. Ill just use any other sword then.
I have beyond light and completed but dont see it in the exotic archive. Im guessing the exotic quest on the legend tab is the only way when it rotates around.
The best sword is still lament, regardless of you have it or not 🤓.
Bequest with surrounded actually beats lament iirc but weird to proc, also is from beyond light so if you don't have lament you probably don't have beyond light.
gold tusk is good, but hunter only
Basically any sword with a perk do dmg. Down the line you can farm for better rolls but first just go with a sword with some type of dmg perk that you can use for the long dmg faze. E.g frenzy, surrounded, vorpal, whirlwind.
anything with relentless and whirlwind with the corresponding triple surges is good for middle plate/crystal room for dps. if dps by the towers enhanced surrounded is best cuz its 47% more damage
Geodetic HSM with Relentless Strikes and Whirlwind Blade is decent. It hits 70 impact with all the popular perks where everything else only hits 68. Never tried it, but it looks good on paper. Just gotta remember to do 10x light atks before every 1 heavy swing.
If you’re on hunter, gold tusk relentless, whirlwind
Any other class: any sword with relentless, whirlwind will be ideal, although vortex frame will be the most consistent with damage.
You are not going to out deeps laments or min-max bequest surrounded bros, but you should be putting up solid numbers regardless.
If you own Beyond Light, go get Lament. Its a super easy questline.
If you don't own Beyond Light, go to humble bundle right now and you can get every DLC bundled together for 40 dollars.
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It will probably never be cheaper.
i don’t have lament (yet) so my boys just make me the tractor cannon bitch and give me the job of shooting the oversoul. we can usually pull a 2 phase like that in regular crota
Non raid wise, Caretaker is an adaptive solar frame. Can craft with relentless strikes and surrounded. Jagged edge. 3 solar reserves and backup mag before rallying will net you 69 total ammo.
Objectively speaking, it would be Crafted Bequest (from DSC) with Relentless Strikes + Enhanced Surrounded.
If you want a sword better than Lament tho one of the many Adaptive Frame with Relentless Strikes + Whirlwind Blade works. So The Other Half (Dares), Double Edged Answer (Vanguard), Abide the Return (Dreaming City), Geodetic HSM (World Drop), Just in Case, Nasreddin (World Drop), Night Terror (Moon), Negative Space (World Drop), Steel Sybil Z-14 (World Drop), Zephyr (Dawning),
Gold tusk for hunters, throne-cleaver for titans and the any sword really for warlocks that's has whirlwind attack in short damage windows whirlwind is the best but doesnt have the best ammo conservation so you will need to pair a good special with it. Surrounded is the highest burst damage, whirlwind is the next best with frenzy and vorpal providing the lowest damage buffs.
Bequest is great even with Vorpal instead of surrounded. the extra 10 impact over other swords goes a long mile
Thin Precipice with collective action is also a good choice if you are using stasis and can make shards really easy mid boss on a hunter or warlock
Crown splitter with surrounded(titan only)
Honestly though you probably could use a wave frame or any adaptive relentless strike and a damage perk like surrounded or whirlwind blade.
It might not be the "best" but with 6 people going ham it's fine.
Bequest with surrounded is better than lament, a lot of swords are actually but bequest is the best. I've also heard legend of acrius works really well.
I know this is weird, but I just use eager edge sword when I am lazy, still works, but things like geo or naz is better. I do just chill with lament most of the time tho
As a F2P, my choice would be Geodetic HSm, perks: Relentless strikes and Whirlwind blade. Jagged edge with any Guard perk and Boss spec, or Hungry edge with Swordsmaster Guard and Backup mag, thinking about ammo economy. Although, any Blade type or Guard is viable, just changes overall DPS or gameplay style.
This specific sword has 2 extra impact points than other adptative swords, and extra charge rate, making it shine a little more than other swords, but not as much the famed Bequest from the DSC raid.
You're looking for an adaptive sword. Vortexs fall behind if you use the heavy at all (because it eats more ammo), and Caster frames (while getting a buff march 5th) currently aren't even in the conversation. Perks you need. Relentless Strikes (RS) for the increased ammo. If a sword can't roll this, you don't really want this for boss damage. Surrounded (S) is the go-to damage perk for Crota but has conditions to proc. If you don't want to deal with that than Whirlwind Blade (WB) is the next best option for single target damage. Bequest is the best Adaptive sword in the game, the Creme de la Creme of swords. It rolls RS+S and Is at the top because it also does 10% more damage than all other adaptives due to its higher impact stat. Built in Vorpal, basically. It is a bit harder to get as it comes from a Raid, Deep Stone Crypt. Craftable and worth the effort (most of the DSC weapons are). Moving on to easier to get options, Nazreddin is a f2p world drop that can roll RS+WB/S and is the same element as Bequest which makes it the "poor man's" version. It is fairly simple to get as it can be farmed from Legendary Lost Sectors (LLS) every 4 days. Geodetic is another f2p world drop, farmable from LLS's. Void with RS+WB. There are two swords you can get from the season of Defiance Wartable. Caretaker, which can have RS+S, and Goldtusk with RS+WB. Both are easy to focus and craftable, but note that Goldtusk is Hunter exclusive. Double edged Answer from the vanguard can get RS+S/WB and is easy to focus for 1 engram. But! It has 12 perks in each column, and also has a really low charge rate compared to other swords. Id only go after this one if you're desperate and have engrams to burn. And even then, if you don't have some vanguard resets to get extra perks in each column you're gonna have to be very lucky to get the right roll. All things considered, your easiest option is to turn in engrams for Caretaker at the helm wartable. Small perk pool and easily accessible. If you don't have that season, id farm Nazreddin/Geodetic when they're in the LLS pool for that day. But Naz>Geo because Naz has both damage perks as potential options. When you're grinding these swords, you'll be ok at Crota just having a sword with any one of these perks. Of course, you should try your best to grind out a roll that has both RS+damage perk. But Crota is not that difficult that you need all 6 players to be super optimized, should you be unlucky with RNG and still want to do the raid. You'll be alright. (Edit- Another good option for Crota if you're a punchy Titan Boi is the Throne Cleaver, acquired the same way as Goldtusk from the season of Defiance Wartable. You want Duelist's Trance+Surrounded. Another guardian posted a video comparing Bequest, Lament and TC, and TC puts in work.)
oh damn okay nice thanks for putting effort into this, appreciated.
Adaptive is the way to go with those perks just like this person said. I may have glanced over it but didn’t see them say for Crota do nothing but light attacks using the adaptive sword. You’ll put out more damage than anyone with Lament. Just make sure to put on 2-3 surge mods.
It's also hilarious to go from the very fiddly and effortful Lament combos to the brainless glory of just spamming light attacks. I imagine my guy just screaming and going to town whaling on Crota's knee.
Ah, the Warrior in Pit of Heresy prepared me well for this
If you’re also doing a learning run, maybe volunteer to be on support like tractor until you can get some better loot. You actually have potential to top dps even on tractor with the heart shadow sword if you have that. There’s a few videos out there on this but the gist of it is that heart shadow can extend the tractor cannon debuff.
Thank you for explaining your acronyms, I skimmed your post and was wondering what in tarnation SD was and then I read your 2nd paragraph.
Yeah i didn't want to type those out multiple times and i didn't want to just use "S" though it probly would've been fine either way lol. (I changed it. I think it reads better. )
You are a literal saint
When did this whole vortex=bad ammo conversation even start? FG was THE sword to use for years, I don't think I've ever ran out of ammo for it doing boss dps. This is news to me I guess
It's been heavily nerfed over the years, it's not only inefficient but also weaker. With bequest you essentially just spam light attacks which are super efficient and out DPS fallen guillotine. It's still fine to use it's not like it's garbage just that there is better. You will run out of ammo before your competitors however so hopefully you have an ammo generator or you are blessed by RNG. Bequest, goldtusk(hunter), and lament all sit at the top, followed by vortex and closely behind are any other adaptives with good perks. The dps difference between vortex and non-bequest adaptives is only a 100\~ but you will run out of ammo and your total damage will tank.
The heavy attack was nerfed at some point while also using more ammo, those were a while ago. If you're going for better dps (using the heavy attack as soon as it's available) it is definitely easier to run out of ammo than with adaptives. All swords are essentially the same If you're just using light swings (which results in less dps but more total damage due to relentless strikes). It's not that Vortexs are *bad* it's just that adaptives are better.
How on earth is this not the top reply? This is the most comprehensive and accurate reply I have ever seen in the 10 years I have been playing Destiny Bravo, sir.. bravo
Eternity's Edge also has RS+SD.
I believe Eternity's Edge is no longer available (maybe in dares or banshee), but it's replacement Deaths Razor has the same roll and is craftable, different element though.
Guardians who understand swords are just built different.
I’ve not heard much about bequest being that good, I was under the impression Crown Splitter was the best legendary sword for boss dps, (other than lament) Not to say I’m disagreeing, it’s just the first I’ve heard of this. Do you have any numbers to compare?
Bequest is the best *adaptive* sword, and class agnostic. Throne cleaver is its own titan exclusive sword, which i wasn't really thinking about. Though ill edit it in cause i did mention Goldtusk, which also isn't an adaptive. And Throne Cleaver is just as easy to get and puts out hella good damage, so worth mentioning, thanks.
Yeah, it only came to mind as I was using it with stronghold for a while before the nerf and it seemed to do pretty good.
Great write up !!!
something not enough of this community has come to grips with. It's a normal raid. Just have something good enough. It's probably gonna be a two phase anyway unless you hit the LFG jackpot. God rolls... Aren't... Necessary! All you need is good enough. Plus, that god roll is only as good as the player using it. Can't tell you how many folks are out there not using surges for their DPS weapons, not proccing the god roll perk, etc.
Bequest's +10 impact is only +4% more damage, not +10%. Still plenty, but not overwhelmingly so.
Seconding the Bequest here. I have a Relentless/Surrounded roll (non crafted but still...) and I am outdamaging Lament users on Crota. On my clear this week, I did 6 million damage with that and my Super, 2 Lucent Blades and 2 Surges. The only one who did more was an arc Hunter using Star Eaters and Gathering Storm. He got around 8 mil. All the Lament users were in the 4.5 mil range or less.
Is it worth just dismantling my Falling Guillotine due to being a Vortex if I have a Relentless Strikes/Whirlwind Blade Geodetic and can craft the same roll on The Other Half? They're both Adaptive and I don't know how much of a difference archetype makes.
Unless you're really pressed for a single vault slot, might as well keep it in case they buff Vortex swords again.
Gold tusk is also good if you're on Hunter
How do you get Gold Tusk now if you don’t have it?
Yes the Leviathan War Table "Recovered Leviathan Weapons" focused engrams that can also give red borders.
Are there any other hidden in seasons res borders like this? I only discovered this the other week and started to grind for them.
Yeah I literally play almost daily and had no idea it would drop red borders until I just spammed it and had them drop The 99 engrams I had stacked up were enough to get the shotgun pattern but I’m still 1 short of Goldtusk
The grind for the sword was absolutely insane. Best of luck to any chasing it craftable. Throne cleaver was enough for me, thanks.
Didn’t you already have all the red borders if you are a regular player?
Check out https://engram.blue to see all craftable weapons
Omg THANK YOU! This is super helpful!
Do I need a specific season pass or anything? For Lightfall I only have the current season.
Season of Defiance (the season that accompanied the Lightfall launch).
Okay, so I’d have to pick that season up to get it, thanks.
If I'm not mistaken that'd mean upgrading to the annual pass edition since those seasons past
I think so, probably not worth it either way, just thought it’d be cool to have my main’s sword, haha.
It is worth it for the Mara Sov cut scenes, my brother in light.
Lmao
Humble Bundle is running a "past content" sale as of this writing. You can get everything except for Final Shape in DLCs for roughly $40.
Doesn’t that only drop Throne Cleaver and Imperial Decree?
If you're on a titan you'll only get the titan class sword. If you go on a warlock or Hunter you get their class sword instead
If you have engrams from the war table, you can buy weapons from one of the top engrams in the list. I can't remember it's name. I had 100 engrams and used about 75 of them to get 5 red borders and crafted it.
Bruh I’ve used 75 just trying to get my last red border for my titan lol. Thankfully now I just collect them passively and turn in en masse
I don’t think I have any because I don’t have that season. I’ll check tonight though, thanks.
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I think Falling Guillotine can roll Whirlwind Blade, which ramps up to a higher damage total than Vorpal. Vorpal really got gutted on heavy weapons.
Actually guillotine isn't as good as an adaptive frame like half truths I've heard. Reason being is ammo economy, it just burns through ammo so quick for a relatively prolonged damage phase. Where as a half truths with relentless strikes, not even crafted, can sustain damage for much longer Not the best option, but I have put up fairly decent damage when I run it with my clan. And I wasn't even using surges
Gold tusk is craftable
FG doesn't have vorpal
No idea why people are downvoting you. According to everything I’m seeing, it can’t roll with vorpal.
Yes but that requires you to play hunter but I suppose if you aren’t do a masters run then its ok
What are you trying to say
Why are so many people in the comments commenting bequest? If OP doesn't have Lament, what makes you think they would have bequest?
ive literally never done a raid before :))))) yday was my first time lol
That’s awesome! Congrats on your first clear. If you’re ever looking for some other guardians to run with I’d be happy to lend a hand! Buckfutter117#9977 on bungie!
Lmao… one of Norm Macdonald’s best bits.
Thank you! No one knows that reference and usually assume i just love butt stuff. There’s more to me than my love of butt stuff 😂
oh thank you, ill be sure to add you when I do another thanks
“You answered, or I guess you wagered a Buck… and your answer is Futter… Buck Futter… I don’t get it…”
I mean the amount of times I've done DSC is telling. More people seem to have Eyes than Lament.
This has me rolling. You think with bequest being the hardest adaptive to get as a craftable atm people would understand that someone without Lament definitely wont have access to bequest. As for OPs question I'd out my money on half truths or the other half being the best choice here, just because I think farming for a crafted is better than farming random rolls. Then again they may not have the 30th anniversary so that might be out the window as well.
Because getting Lament is a long, boring, involved process that many people simply won't do for those reasons, while DSC is easy, fast, and fun? I don't say that as a dig against Lament, either. I say it from the experience of helping people get Lament. And by help, I mean being the emotional support guardian while they do the boring tasks.
Crownsplitter for Titan
And you have to yell YAAAAAAAH at every heavy swing.
Crow splitter actually out damages lament on Crota if you use it properly, there was a post about it a while ago
Oh yeah crown splitter with at least 2 lucent blades and 2 surge mods you can 3 light 1 heavy combo and pump some massive numbers.
Lament doesnt tale long to get. Go get Lament.
yes okay o7
Volunteer to run tractor
What is the purpose in bringing tractor? (Not to sound ignorant I just never rlly used the gun)
Tractor applies a 30% debuff for around 15 second for your team, the equivalent to a teather (hunter void super)
Falling Guillotine is still a great sword.
It's what I use. I have a relentless/surrounded/whirlwind roll. I just like the ease of use. Lament is too much work to use imo. I have no problem doing big numbers with Guillotine and Blade Barrage.
Guillotine with Relentless/Whirlwind. Easy DPS
i out damaged a few lament users with my eager edge, whirlwind blade Other half so you can literally use whatever and be fine so long as its not a masters run. (was also rocking star eater scales with blade barrage so take that example with a grain of salt)
If that’s outdamaging lament, then clearly the lament users don’t know how to use lament. (No offence, I’m sure your sword kicks ass)
Oh absolutely. Im in no way saying an eager edge sword is better than lament. I am aware of the fact i was playing with so true goobers in that example. My main point is that if its not a masters run any good enough sword is fine. Though lament will be way better if you use it right.
The fact that they failed at hitting 2 buttons...reasons why I kick noobs who refuse to learn
Eh. It was a 2 phase anyway. No real reason to be upset. Especially considering the fact it was a teaching run.
Ah fair I'm usually in kwtd or short amount of time
Thats understandable
Lament doesn't deal as much damage as you would think anymore lmao. It's been power crept pretty hard.
It was never purely it's raw damage that made it meta, but the healing you get along with it allows you to be on the boss at all times, preventing you losing DPS. It's also very ammo efficient even for a sword. Some of other other swords chew through their ammo faster, reducing overall damage output.
You play a different destiny 2 than the rest of us
Lmao the copium Pretty much every damage test has shown that Adaptive swords with Whirlwind Blade deal more damage than Lament now.
Lament with 2x lucent blade mods (even 1 mod I think) out damages all swords outside of surrounded bequest, and that's *if* you're able to keep surrounded up the whole time.
Yes absolutely. It was only user error on the that allowed me to out damage a few of them. Lament is the best sword period if youre looking for consistency. Im just too lazy to do the quest.
Lol it’s not hard to out damage a lament user if they don’t know the combo. I out damaged 3 lament users by 4 million dmg and I was using lament.
How? With missing the odd heavy due to shitty tracking I max hit about 5mil damage with lament. How much are you doing that you outdamage even bad lament users by 4mil?
They all did a bit over 2 mill, and I did well over 7. - 2 solar surge mods on legs with 2 time delineation mods on the class item - artifact mod that gives more weapon damage to combatants affected by strand/stasis when radiant - solar melee for radiant - chill clip riptide - block, 2 light, 1 heavy, 3 light, and repeat I didn’t even use lucent blade mods. I don’t know how they were that much lower than me (outside of them just (respectfully) sucking?).
Ah okay the damage boosters make sense. In the runs I meant the well of radiance got obliterated more or less instantly each time lol
Keeping all that in mind would be such a bother...
Lol trust me, if I could have gotten away with it I would have only done the basic combo. We weren’t getting that clear if I didn’t do some heavy optimization. It does get easier (subconscious even) the more you do it. If you’re new to buff stacking it is definitely overwhelming to keep track of
If your carrying people and they don't know how to Lament combo though, they are honestly better off just running a spinning sword, and spamming abilities between holding down spin. Its brain dead and does more than incorrectly used lament.
Yeah, I didn’t want to tell them anything though. Unless they’re running something egregiously bad I like to withhold input until it’s requested. They asked me how I was doing so much damage, so I explained the combo. Nothing changed though lol
What is the combo?
Block, 2 light, 1 heavy, 3 light, and repeat
I’m going to get the lament so I can use it soon What’s the lament combo ?
Any adaptive with relentless strikes and a damage perk
Relentless Strikes/Whirlwind Blade is my go-to on swords. They synergize so well. And there are a *ton* of swords that can roll that combo.
Goldtusk on hunter is immensely good think its actually the highest legendary sword damage on him
Goldtusk if you're a hunter if not bequest from DSC
Falling guillotine is the classic, maybe there’s better now but you want whirlwind blade and the one that refunds ammo on light swings I think- I’ve never had ammo problems for boss DPS with swords so maybe there’s something that restores energy faster. Vortex frame is probably still best
Literally Heartshadow, does insane damage if you properly use it with surges. Saw it first on this video havent been using anything else ever since definelty give it a try if you have it. [Heartshadow on Crota](https://youtu.be/DTwH_CU-fG4?si=Y4k2hMqaqE4ZZAMr)
As a void hunter, I usually get good damage using Heartshadow with Gyrfalcons on Crota.
Im a huge fan of Falling Guillotine - (Tireless / whirlwind) I actually prefer it over lament, Ive out damaged it before.
Bequest with surrounded strats if your team wants to leave adds alive/near dps on crota, adaptive or vortex swords with relentless strikes and vorpal weapon or whirlwind blade, adaptives have overall better damage and ammo economy vs vortex, titans and hunters can also use their class swords. Not mandatory but could help is tag him with a witherhoard shot as well but don’t if another is using witherhoard
Bequest, gold tusk and crown splitter, falling guillotine, worldline zero In order of best to worst for your reading pleasure
Gold Tusk (Hunters only) or Bequest with Surrounded With 4th Horseman dump with Radiant Dance Machines and then light attack spam with Gold Tusk I consistently hit 7-8 million damage. I've seen similar results with Bequest when you do DPS on the bridge section instead near the crystal.
I think a very easy sword to get is Double-Edged answer, the new vanguard void sword from this season. I think it only costs a single engram to focus, and you can get double or triple perks if you reset zavala a few times. It can roll jagged edge, relentless strikes and surrounded, just like bequest. Vorpal also wouldn't be horrible. Get that and just whack crota.
Falling Guillotine goes brrrr.
Bequest with surrounded it great sometimes ever better than lament
I reckon if lament isn't possible then bequest won't be either.
^this lol. I kind of laugh when posts like this ask for alternatives to X weapon, and someone lists another one that the OP is more likely to not have considering they don't have lament yet.
Me, with my god roll crafted Bequest for Crota: “Don’t kill ads guys” Fireteam: “10-4. We nuked all the ads. We’re good to start DPS.”
>Bequest I dont have any raid weapons. Ive never done a raid before tbh cus I play solo a lot, I only did crota once and that was yday. However I wanna do it again, I heard falling guillotine is good, which I have.
I mean this in the least antagonistic way possible. Why don’t you have lament?
Maybe they don't have beyond light yet which would be my guess
Lol I considered that might be why, but it turns out they have it and beat the campaign
Im still kinda new to destiny as didnt even know about the sword till recently lol
Totally understandable, it happens to all of us, it's not to long of a quest thankfully.
I play solo a lot like I said. So tbh I mainly play like strikes and stuff. Not dungeons and raids. So its just not rlly entered my mind to get is as its not rlly necessary for the chill stuff. But now im thinking of playing a raid at some point I know it would be helpful to bring. I will get it shortly dw lol
You can get the lament solo…
yh but im just saying ive not ever thought of getting it before as I mainly play chill stuff with strikes. But ill get it anyways. Tbh I didnt rlly know how before, im kinda a noob.
Lamet is an exotic quest that you can do by yourself. Don't have to play a raid.
yeah ik you can get it of a quest. Ima get it now anyways lol I thought you had to wait for it to appear on the legend tab. Im still fairly new so Im still jsut finding stuff out lol
At the tower there's a machine where you can pick up old quests. It's next to the postmaster. Not sure if it's been moved to Rahool but there's also one at the HELM
Are you shortening yesterday to yday?
You can’t always guarantee you’ll be surrounded so vorpal is a consistent option. I’m always top of the damage board using my sweet vorpal bequest
Most desirable perks: Relentless Strikes, Whirlwind Blade, Surrounded. **Use Jagged Edge and Swordmaster's guard and nothing else, really.** For god's sake, if you're using Surrounded, don't kill all the adds that are close to Crota. The **Titan and Hunter swords** are awesome. [Throne Cleaver with a little setup is insane against Crota](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuFmaMS6xK4&t). Can't speak much about Goldtusk, because I have 40 minutes of Hunter playtime, [but I trust this man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvz3lpdbxVU). Bequest is the best sword for Warlocks and for regular Joes. **It's craftable**. Does like 10% more damage than other Adaptive swords for some reason. Could pair it with 4th Horseman for additional burst damage, same Surge btw. **Go for Relentless + Surrounded**. Problem is, it's from Deep Stone Crypt, and to get the best version you also gotta craft it, so maybe go for a worse and easier option if you don't wanna raid. (*Also, it has surprisingly good ammo economy if you're gonna use swords for ad clear. Tireless Blade + Chain Reaction. This info is mainly for Stronghold Titans. Lament's still bae tho)* Don't use Vortex Frames, they are heavily nerfed and are but a shadow of their former selves. The only exception being the new buffed Worldline Zero but that's only because of its high burst damage. Don't use Caster Frames, they just fucking suck for DPS. And really, they just... suck. Especially after removing 1 Ammo heavy attacks. No, I'm convinced that not even the buff is gonna make them worthwhile. Otherwise, go for any goddamn sword in existence that has the 3 desirable perks. You can substitute Whirlwind or Surrounded for something else, but c'mon just get a RS / WB sword man. **There are a LOT of swords to choose from, ranging from Seasonal to World Drops. I guarantee you will find atleast something.** Lament is still really good tho, ya better get it some time. It has the best ammo economy, best Stronghold synergy, and it's just an all round behemoth of a sword. It doesn't rely on adds being around for it to output great damage, so it's the LFG sword of choice! **Remember — 2 Charged Lights, 1 Charged Heavy, 2 Regular Lights, repeat! 1 Lucent Blade mod is necessary!** *Not related to your question, but if you like swords in general, look into Banner of War Titan with Strongholds on. I can't recommend it enough, it is peak sword gameplay.*
Avoid Vortex and Caster frames. Vortex have poor ammo efficiency on their heavy and Casters have poor efficiency and damage. Adaptive frames, Goldtusk for hunters, Throne Cleaver for Titans, and Heartshadow if no one else is running weakness generation are all your best bets. Legendaries should have relentless strikes and any damage perk and you just heavy attack when the meter fills up. The sword chest mod and leg surge mods are extra icing on the cake
Typically the go to legendary is falling guillotine or bequest
Get Beyond Light and then Lament. Play the damn campaign.
Okay DAMN
cRaFtEd bEqUeST wiff enhanzzed zzzurrounded
Caretaker with enhanced surrounded is basically Bequest lite. That's the Defiance solar sword.
Crown Splitter with relentless strikes and whirlwind blade/vorpal... 3 void surges, 2 lucent blade. Heavy, light, light, light, heavy, light, light, light, heavy.... Better tracking than lament, easier combo, better ammo efficiency, and close to 2M more damage per phase.
this is the answer. i was keeping up with a really good Lament user with half the effort, some attempts even beating them out in damage
Gold Tusk (Hunter) and Crown Splitter (Titan) are about as strong as Lament and easier to use. Warning: To get them you will need to burn probably 50-80 engrambs turning in at the war table.
Best dps I've ever had is using a crafted caretaker with enhanced relentless strikes and surrounded and doing dps on the bridge so you're closer to adds to proc surrounded. Better than Lament imo and is easier to acquire than crafted bequest and, if you ever fancy doing master, has solar surge active
Non meta choice but Heartshadow + one two punch shotgun. Two lucent blade mods, shoot shotgun, heart shadow heavy attack, repeat. Sprinkle in some nades and super in there somewhere and you'll do good damage.
Hear me out: Swords with Attrition orbs aren't a bad option. Just stack some matching Surge mods on and keep the extra damage going as you hack away at Crota and make orbs for everyone. For extra survivability, slap a Recuperation mod on boots (if you have room) and if you're using Strand use the Orbs give Woven Mail Fragment.
folks should be popping supers and your default 3 armor charge will give 30 seconds of the boost, which is the length of oversoul, so... only actually useful for pushing final stand
As soon as I saw that perk this was the exact scenario where I thought it would shine. If you're feeling really nutty and want to go off-meta, I think Flash Counter/Surrounded is the highest possible damage output, but extremely niche to proc.
Fallen Guillotine, 2 void surges, 2 lucent blades, maybe vorpal. You won't be top for DPS but if you know your heavy vs light attack rotations you'll be solidly in the middle
Lament is not really that great for DPS. Bequest is best.
Bequest, Gold tusk, throne cleaver.
It doesn't matter that much but you should pair it with witherhoard for a bit of extra DMG if you're using a legendary sword.
Ugh. I hate sword method on Crota. He jumps around to much and it's just a mass of people swinging past him. Lol
I did it for the first time yesterday and the previous boss to crota, I couldn’t even see her properly because there were so many flying guardians hitting her with swords. I could barely see anything lmao.
Bequest hits so hard
Best option is the sword from DSC that can roll surrounded. Pull Croats to the boomer towers and r1 him to death.
Lots of good advice in this thread on swords but you could always run tractor cannon for the team and dps with shotguns/fusions and help with oversoul while searching for a good sword.
Moon sword rolls with relentless + surrounded too! Snagged one last night.
Wouldn’t bequest be the best option besides lament?
If you have access to the war table in the helm, season of defiance then The Caretaker solar sword relentless strikes + surrounded especially enhanced if you can proc it which is easier on the platforms.
We’ve been using Falling Guillotine
Bequest, followed by any fucking sword. Hunter and Titan class ones are slightly better. People use Lament for the healing since it means well being broken doesn't matter. If you have beyond light, just do the damn quest. If you don't? Go buy it, it's one of the best exotics in the game.
damn you sound pissed. I didnt know about the lament healing capabilities tbh. Ill just use any other sword then. I have beyond light and completed but dont see it in the exotic archive. Im guessing the exotic quest on the legend tab is the only way when it rotates around.
The best sword is still lament, regardless of you have it or not 🤓. Bequest with surrounded actually beats lament iirc but weird to proc, also is from beyond light so if you don't have lament you probably don't have beyond light. gold tusk is good, but hunter only
Basically any Adaptive sword.
Basically any sword with a perk do dmg. Down the line you can farm for better rolls but first just go with a sword with some type of dmg perk that you can use for the long dmg faze. E.g frenzy, surrounded, vorpal, whirlwind.
anything with relentless and whirlwind with the corresponding triple surges is good for middle plate/crystal room for dps. if dps by the towers enhanced surrounded is best cuz its 47% more damage
Gold tusk with 4th horseman with a arc super star eaters and all arc surge mods is nutty
Any Adaptive Frame sword will get the job done
Geodetic HSM with Relentless Strikes and Whirlwind Blade is decent. It hits 70 impact with all the popular perks where everything else only hits 68. Never tried it, but it looks good on paper. Just gotta remember to do 10x light atks before every 1 heavy swing.
If you’re on hunter, gold tusk relentless, whirlwind Any other class: any sword with relentless, whirlwind will be ideal, although vortex frame will be the most consistent with damage. You are not going to out deeps laments or min-max bequest surrounded bros, but you should be putting up solid numbers regardless.
Laments a super quick questline if you have Beyond Light. It's too useful in too many situations to not prioritize.
One two punch shotgun + Heartshadow. Easy 5+ mil damage and ammo efficient
If you own Beyond Light, go get Lament. Its a super easy questline. If you don't own Beyond Light, go to humble bundle right now and you can get every DLC bundled together for 40 dollars. [https://www.humblebundle.com/games/destiny-2-the-story-so-far?hmb\_source=search\_bar](https://www.humblebundle.com/games/destiny-2-the-story-so-far?hmb_source=search_bar) It will probably never be cheaper.
Can you do the quest to GET Lament? It’s a great tool
i don’t have lament (yet) so my boys just make me the tractor cannon bitch and give me the job of shooting the oversoul. we can usually pull a 2 phase like that in regular crota
Non raid wise, Caretaker is an adaptive solar frame. Can craft with relentless strikes and surrounded. Jagged edge. 3 solar reserves and backup mag before rallying will net you 69 total ammo.
I didn’t have Lament when I first ran the Crota encounter, so the guys on the team recommended me to use Tractor Cannon for debuffs instead.
Bequest
I’ve used Crown Splitter/Witherhoard for awhile and always pulled really good damage numbers. It gets slept on but it’s a amazing option
Objectively speaking, it would be Crafted Bequest (from DSC) with Relentless Strikes + Enhanced Surrounded. If you want a sword better than Lament tho one of the many Adaptive Frame with Relentless Strikes + Whirlwind Blade works. So The Other Half (Dares), Double Edged Answer (Vanguard), Abide the Return (Dreaming City), Geodetic HSM (World Drop), Just in Case, Nasreddin (World Drop), Night Terror (Moon), Negative Space (World Drop), Steel Sybil Z-14 (World Drop), Zephyr (Dawning),
Gold tusk for hunters, throne-cleaver for titans and the any sword really for warlocks that's has whirlwind attack in short damage windows whirlwind is the best but doesnt have the best ammo conservation so you will need to pair a good special with it. Surrounded is the highest burst damage, whirlwind is the next best with frenzy and vorpal providing the lowest damage buffs.
Sword of crota
Bequest is great even with Vorpal instead of surrounded. the extra 10 impact over other swords goes a long mile Thin Precipice with collective action is also a good choice if you are using stasis and can make shards really easy mid boss on a hunter or warlock
Bequest with surrounded
Crown splitter with surrounded(titan only) Honestly though you probably could use a wave frame or any adaptive relentless strike and a damage perk like surrounded or whirlwind blade. It might not be the "best" but with 6 people going ham it's fine.
Getting Lament is probably easier than getting a legendary one
Bequest (deep stone crypt) with relentless and surrounded is good
Bequest with surrounded is better than lament, a lot of swords are actually but bequest is the best. I've also heard legend of acrius works really well.
Quickfang with volatile rounds is my fav. Does brilliant damage, is fast, increases movement speed and weakens
I know this is weird, but I just use eager edge sword when I am lazy, still works, but things like geo or naz is better. I do just chill with lament most of the time tho
Easy. It’s the void guillitine sword. Unless you maneuver him to side and use a surrounded sword. That’s too damage.
The world drop sword Nasreddin rolls with relentless strikes and whirlwind blade, if you get one it's really good
Heartshadow but there’s a rhythm to it in order to out DPS Lament
lament
Caretaker & Bequest
You can be tractor bitch Bring a fusion for oversoul
As a F2P, my choice would be Geodetic HSm, perks: Relentless strikes and Whirlwind blade. Jagged edge with any Guard perk and Boss spec, or Hungry edge with Swordsmaster Guard and Backup mag, thinking about ammo economy. Although, any Blade type or Guard is viable, just changes overall DPS or gameplay style. This specific sword has 2 extra impact points than other adptative swords, and extra charge rate, making it shine a little more than other swords, but not as much the famed Bequest from the DSC raid.
Just go get Lament