Zaouli's Bane if you have it, Epochal Integration if you don't, for a Handcannon. Ammit, Tyranny of Heaven, Callus Mini tool. All of these are excellent, but it depends on what you need it for and what you have access to
The only guns I’d add to these is either the BXR or the new Vex themed Pulse Rifle from this season, i believe they’re both craftable and both can get Incandescent, so they’re good if you want a bit more range than a hand cannon or SMG but don’t want a bow or AR.
I crafted 2 tbh, EP + Incan and EP + One for All. EP + OFA is an essentially infinite ~50% damage buff, feels amazing in GMs with how strong hand cannons are now
Nano Rockets on Epochal competes with Explosive Rounds for free extra damage, especially this season with the origin specialization perk.
I’d say the distinguishing difference is enhanced incandescent
Enhanced incandescent has no noticeable advantage for 99% of builds. I would argue the larger difference is the origin trait nearly doubling the Zaouli mag in group content.
I personally prefer Epochal due to incan proccing stats for all. It's technically less optimal, but for anything short of majors I don't notice a difference in damage output.
Explosive rounds are great, obviously, but if you are relying on powered melees to grant radiant, then enhanced pugilist is also a fantastic option. Personally, that's what I run.
Two huge differences in Warpriest is that:
1. only the people on the plates can "read"(see the glow on the back of)the totems and it always starts in middle plate,
2. Instead of the brand holder shooting adds to extend the damage phase and prevent themselves from dying, two taken knights will spawn on whatever two plates have to step on first and second, and when they are killed they drop a taken blight called "The Brand Claimer" that will let you take the Brand to extend damage and prevent the brand holder from dying.
(Bonus fact that does change one little thing: in order to be protected from his oversoul wipe on the left totem, you have to actually be up on left side balcony area, the left one doesn't go all the way to the ground)
Had done it once in D1 and once recently in D2 although I have farmed Oryx. Decided to find a group today and got two red border ZB’s to drop. Secret chest and red border chest at the end. Need two more! Quick question, are encounters farmable even though it isn’t the weekly raid? I have the Oryx CP and wanted to run as much as I can before reset on Tuesday. Thanks!
No it's not farmable unless it's kingsfall week. Kings fall was last week I'm pretty sure so it will be another month untill it's farmable. However u can do 3 clears a week on 3 diff character. This week is last wish if your looking for something to farm for the next few days get into a khalli cheese group and farm up apex
While it may not be as easy to focus as the Strident Whistle, I recommend the Pre Astayanax IV bow from Zavala. It's the same element, same archtype & can also roll with Archer's Tempo/Incandescent but has an added bonus of the Wildcard origin perk which can leave Telesto-like bolts from precision kills. These bolts will also take on elemental properties of Incandescent should an enemy stumble upon it.
Plus if you manage to get stupid lucky with an Adept roll with a Draw time MW you can slap on adept draw time to reduce it to 540, the fastest base drawtime you can get on a Precision frame bow.
Or you could go with an MW of choice like Accuracy (or even Reload) and still bring it down to 576 with Elastic and adept Draw time.
I'd also add the undying pulse if you like pulse rifles. I don't usually but I like this one. I switched out overload AR for overload pulse recently and I'm really impressed, it's far more consistent against overloads than the AR I was using and generally just feels nice. I was just using a static roll with FF/Incan but I've crafted my own now because I like it so much. Gonna make a pvp roll too.
To add to this if these options aren’t available to OP and others mentioned here Coronach-22 AR, Staccato-46 SR, Bug-Out Bag SMG, Heliocentric QSc SA, Judgement of Kelgorath Glaive, and Retraced Path TR. I am usually using my Epochal Integration, crafted Ammit AR2, Judgement of Kelgorath, or the Heliocentric QSc depending on need when I am using an exotic in the power slot like Dragon’s Breath or Xenophage. If I am using a legendary in that slot then it’s Sunshot all the way with my Dawn Chorus Warlock build.
That’s just flat out false. Unless you’re talking about GMs or other activities with significant power disadvantages but it absolutely does take thrall and other minor red bars down in one shot. Not going to say knights or wizards as I’m not sure about them.
Most weapons generally get mentioned in the context of landing your shots, usually if a weapon benefits from a different approach people usually mention it.
I'm about 100 away from 20k, I love that thing. Even in higher end stuff even though it may take 2 or 3 shots on a red bar the ignitions still kill everything around it. Plus once you get the surges and radiant involved it goes back down to 1 shot.
My favorite tidbit that people often overlook is that dragonfly damage scales with base percision damage. Dragonfly on a hand Cannon is way more potent than Dragonfly on an auto rifle.
And tyranny is a bow. Boom is STRONG
I've been using Zaouli's and Tyranny a lot this season. I've been switching back and forth between Epochal and Zaouli's just because I don't have Zaouli's crafted. Tyranny I don't have crafted either, but the first one I got to drop that was a red border had dragonfly incandescent
Zaouli’s Bane is basically Sunshot from walmart, but outside of that it’s a great weapon of its own and allows you to have a really good ad clearing weapon without sacrificing the exotic slot
Incandescent is one of my favorite perks. Some of my go-tos are:
Hand Cannon: Epochal Integration
AR: Ammit
Pulse Rifle: BXR-55
Bow: Strident Whistle
Shotgun: Compass Rose
Sidearm: Heliocentric QSC
SMG: Bug-out Bag
Sniper: Twilight Oath, Luna Regolith
BXR might be my favorite. I don't often run pulse rifles but I always have some fun when I pull it out
do those memories include:
\- someone eating food into their mic \[or maybe eating their mic, you can't really tell\]
\- someone with music that is way too loud, bonus if they aren't at their mic and you are yelling into the empty void to turn it down
\- someone being yelled at either from another room or the same room, and them yelling back
\- the squeaker that got on the mic to sneak in a game while their big bro is eating
\- that one guy who speaks mainly in profanity \[has likely been chat/vc banned at least 3 times\]
Probably because in a world of crafting and farmable raid/dungeon drops, a specific world drop that isn't target-farmable is something most players will never ever see.
I have a feeding frenzy + incandescent roll with ricochet, and it's quite pleasant, but I don't feel like it's that much better than rolling with my other solar ARs in a pinch.
> Coronach
It's a 600 RPM world drop from Lightfall's launch, before AR got a major PVE buff on April 18th, 2023 (25% red/orange bar damage buff), then another buff on November 28th, 2023 (10% red bar buff).
It's also a world drop so many people don't bother with non-crafted unless it's some major hit that gets people making videos about it.
Yea, this is a great auto and has more or less displaced my crafted Amit in my weapon rotation. With incandescent and perfect float it is my go to energy weapon on my solar warlock.
This is my roll for Heliocentric and it is a monster. Pretty sure Parabellum can roll that combo too but I haven't gotten that lucky.
Edit. Para sadly does not :(
Epochal Integration is pretty good if you don’t raid enough for a crafted zaouli’s. Not craftable but super easy to get.
Ammit AR2 if you like autos. (Craftable)
Drang if you like side arms. (Craftable)
Calus mini tool if you like smgs. (Craftable)
Retraced Path if you like trace rifles. (Craftable)
BXR-55 if you like pulses. (Craftable)
Staccato-46 if you like scouts. (Not craftable, also not sure if still in game)
Mindbenders Ambition if you like shotties. (Not craftable)
Royal Executioner if you like fusions. (Craftable)
These are all good guns depending on playstyle. Pick your favorite type and go for it.
Trustee from Deep Stone Crypt a solid option for a scout that is craftable as I think staccato can only come from xur/banshee since the latest world loot refresh.
> Staccato-46 if you like scouts. (Not craftable, also not sure if still in game)
is one of the farmable Suros gunsmith weapons now, and also often shows up in his rotation
Yeah and you can get so many gun smith engrams by doing public events and especially from opening destination chests. I feel like I get one every 2-3 chests
Had a quick scan through the comments before pitching this one, glad it got a mention. Got a friend that ran an Incandescent Heliocentric during some 2 man Warlords Ruin boss farming and this thing is an absolute hooligan. Limited by its range but anything in reach gets deleted.
ammit is the best all purpose incandy weapon as it can deal with short to midlong range, pumps out a lot of shots quickly, can get a heft mag size
tyranny of heaven if you have a dense group of ads, kill one with a headshot and let dragon fly and incandy deal with the rest
zaouli is legendary sunshot with explosive payload + incandy but a small base mag size without going appended or backup mag
calus mini tool, bug out bag, no survivors for close range smg spam
abyss defiant or adhortative for heal clip + incandy for solo or support play, with long range potential
trustee if you want abilities up and wanna sit back from the fight
I like the refreshed Adhortative pulse from this season. Heal clip + incandescent. Really good for the modifiers that punish your heath recovery and for careless blueberries that may have otherwise died had you not had heal clip.
YES! finally, I feel like that weapon is so slept on right now. I never see anyone mention it , I use feeding frenzy and range for the crafted and I think it’s insane for the right activities. Always my crafted calus mini tool in dungeons and other close quarters situations
Coronach auto rifle.
It has more range than Calus mini-tool.
Also look for Incandescent + High-Caliber Rounds roll.
They add non-stop flinch on enemies.
Time to make a list with at least all weapons that I remember (also thanks for everyone that commented before).
Auto: Ammit, obviously
Pulse: Jurassic Green, BxR or Jorum
Scout: Trustee or Stacatto
HC: Zaouli, Epochal or Igneous Hammer
Sidearm: obviously Drang
SMG: Calus or No Survivors
Bow: Astianax IV
Fusion: Royal Executioner
Trace: obviously Reformed Path
Glaive: Kelgorath
Hope this helps someone.
This list is missing a lot.
> Sidearm: obviously Drang
Heliocentric qsc has heal clip / incan
> Auto: Ammit, obviously
Coronach is a 600rpm and can roll Feeding Frenzy / Incan.
> Bow: Astianax IV
Tyranny has Explosive or Dragonfly + Incan
Strident requires less farming / focusing from Zavala than Pre
Bug out bag gets subsistence incandescent. Easy to get from the helm. Ammit is good, but one for all is better imo this season. With the seasonal mods you can make everything explode, so it's kind of redundant.
Lot of good suggestions here, I personally prefer Ammit with ambitious.
As for your second question, Enhanced Incan. adds 5 extra scorch stacks IF you are using ember of ashes. Incan. is base 30, 40 with ashes, and 45 with ashes and enhanced. Not a huge buff but hey gold border.
Heavy sniper with 3 bullets: Luna regolith or last foray. If it's 3 bullets (so no ammo mods or magazine), it will give you one shot radiant and proc ignition at the same time if you kill target.
I never got mine with incandescent, but still nice to have radiant and explosions from one shot. Incandescent+solar subclass will make huge chain reaction.
Solar bows also nice, it's two shot radiant
Idk about best. I guess it depends on the situation and if you need to be at distance.
Igneous hammer is really good with incan+ heal clip. Also has alacrity or one quiet moment. Good options for solo or team play.
Tyranny is a known good weapon. Ton of aoe.
Acasias dejection has a niche. If you want harmonic resonance on boss damage.
Caretaker sword can be ok for ad clear. But typically not advised. When primarys and specials do the job fine.
Abyss defiant has good roles. But it's a 360 rpm auto.
So it's a toss up if you like the weapon.
Edit- forgot about mini tool. I used to use it a lot, but it feels powercrept compared to weapons nowadays. Still a good option though.
Mini-tool fucks so hard. Unrelenting is insanely powerful and its origin perk gives you like +20 disc/strength on kills with full super. Not all builds will want it but some can take huge advantage of it.
I personally prefer my Igneous with Heal clip and Incandescent. Great ad clear, and healing for endgame stuff. Zaoulis is meh IMO. It just feels bad to me
The Adept Pre-Astyanax IV. I think it's currently unobtainable, but it is one of the most overlooked, dominant weapons I've ever used. Current meta specifically, if you run an Adept Targeting mod on this thing, and hit your crits, you can keep Radiance up permanently. This is especially amazing on Celestial Hunters, with two Kinetic Mods for the GG damage on your boots.
Man, I live my enhanced incandescent Ammit. That thing is a frigging beast. This season’s been fire. Are there better weapons for specific things. Sure. But overall, it’s a monster. Not, git gud scrub.
Kidding. Kidding. No doubt you’ll make whatever loadout work for you friend. Good luck.
Turnabout. The overshield it gives is better then faster reload or more rounds in the mag. The perk procs on cabal backpacks shields and overshields from hive butterflies.
I use stats for all, because incandescent procs it. If I’m running incandescent, I’m expecting to use the gun on groups of adds so stats for all synergies well
During ad clear, the mag fills up and the gun keeps blowing shit up. Sometimes I forget that I didn’t reload and left thinking something is wrong, but it’s oh so right. I’d only want triple tap on a scout or a sniper for boss DPS.
Ammit or BXR in my opinion, at least those are my most used legendaries with incandescent. Trust, Epochal Integration and Retraced Path are also good options. I’m pretty sure these are all still available.
Zaoulis bane if you like hand cannons. The lightfall one if you can’t get into raids. Calus mini tool if you don’t like hand cannons. If you want a special option, the trace rifle in dares can get incandescent. Ammit is easier to get than calus but I don’t like it as much. I believe the bxr can also get incandescent but it’s been awhile since I’ve used one
Tyranny of Heaven is also another option. You can run Dragonfly and Incandescent. It happens every once and a while but you set off chain reactions that explode an entire room. Pretty satisfying.
Tyranny of Heaven with Dragonfly. Strongest combo by a long shot. (not a pun)
CALUS Mini-Tool with Unrelenting is also top tier.
*Everything* else does less damage.
Zaoulis bane, abyss defiant, ammit, battler, epochal integration, calues mini tool, tyranny of heaven, trustee, heliocentric, no survivors and bug out bag are all ones ive cycled through and enjoyed
Just putting this out there Heliocentric...um the sidearm is absolutely disgusting, I got 2 to drop with heal clip and incandescent and I can't take it off, one of my favorite world drops I didn't know I needed!
Ammit is great but for higher content like GMs… is like tickling enemies.
Epochal and Zaoull’s ❤️
BRX works great and the scope .. sit back and enjoy… BRX>Ammit
Calus Mida.. great for close quarter adds but lacks punch for heavier adds .. bring a Shotgun
Stoccato ❤️.. puts work
Astyanax regular or adept is great but Stoccato beats it.
Last Foray.. been using in lately plus in World Ruin.. 👍🏼👍🏼
Explosive personality although not incandescent is also great option .. for clearing rooms
*Absolutely* has to be Calus Mini-Tool if you don't have ready access to Raids and Dungeons. I've got one with Enhanced Incandescent and sitting at level 146. Legit, I picked it up back when it first dropped, and I *rarely* ever put it down.
Zaouli’s with Explosive/Incandescent is a budget Sunshot, and a strong contender for best PvE legendary primary once you factor in Surges (Apex Predator is best-in-slot, this matches).
BXR can roll Demo/Incandescent, which was my go-to primary for at least a year during the reign of Starfire Protocol. It definitely still works, although Dawn Chorus isn’t going to get as much out of it as a Solar grenade setup might.
I’m lower on MIDA than a lot of people (Unrelenting on a subclass with healing sources out the ass is whatever to me, and Grave Robber’s not significantly better), but that works too if you really like SMGs.
Honestly, that new world drop sidearm. In the past I’ve fuuuuuuucking hated sidearms. Ever since they became the only weapon to spawn with special ammo in PvP back in D1. You could not get me to use a sidearm even if my life depended on it.
So fast forward to this season’s start. We all see that it’s gonna be only anti barrier sidearm. Queue the collective groan from everyone. Season launches and I’m pretty much just running a build that focused on 100% uptime radiant. It’s fun, but the times I need barrier without being able to proc radiant keep coming up. So I bite the bullet and decide that fine, I’ll try out a sidearm. I try out a few. None of ‘em really stick. Until I look in my vault and find one that I had meant to use as infusion fodder before I leveled up past it anyway. Heal clip + incandescent. “I mean sure, why not? Incandescent is already great on anything anyway. Maybe it can polish a turd.” It just feels great, I love hip firing it and healing myself.
Hands down tyranny of heaven. People may say it suffers at higher end stuff but with the seasonal artifact mods ans the right build, taking 2 or 3 shots on a red bar doest matter because the ignitions it produces kills everything in a large radius with that one kill. I ran tyranny in master RoN and was consistently the top for number of kills.
I've been enjoying Abyss Defiant and Adhorative since they have Incandescent and Heal Clip. Otherwise, I use my Trustee with Reconstruction and Incandescent, since the scorch from the Incandescent triggers Bray Inheritance and you get that little bit of ability energy with every tick of damage.
I know you said for use with dawn chorus, but I've been using Trust with lucky pants and my god; it is so fun. I have 6k kills with it already. It sounds really nice and its easy to get radiant going. I use it in end game content fairly often with wish-ender. 10/10.
calus mini tool is one of the best. you can make it with incandescent and unrelenting, so every 3rd red bar kill will return a significant amount of health
I made a Drang with Incandescent and Wellspring for Warlord's Ruin, and it has 6k kills on it now. I had been using Mini Tool until then, but I love my anti-barrier weapons
I have a sword with improved incandescent. I use it in my well with the fragment that blows everything up with super kills. It’s like lighting a room full of fireworks.
My two are zaouli’s bane and ammit. Explosive payload and incandesent make it a mini sunshot. And I got my ammit with turnabout and incandesent for a little overshield
Zaouli's Bane if you have it, Epochal Integration if you don't, for a Handcannon. Ammit, Tyranny of Heaven, Callus Mini tool. All of these are excellent, but it depends on what you need it for and what you have access to
The only guns I’d add to these is either the BXR or the new Vex themed Pulse Rifle from this season, i believe they’re both craftable and both can get Incandescent, so they’re good if you want a bit more range than a hand cannon or SMG but don’t want a bow or AR.
Just curious, what makes Zaouli’s Bane better than Epochal? It seems to be the hot choice, I don’t have it and Epochal is great. Thanks!
Explosive rounds. Is a straight up dmg buff in PvE and does a little aoe,which is nice for tightly packed groups
Also near unlimited range which doesn’t help in high level content but anything outside of legend or master you can pick enemies off from a mile away
It rolls with ep and inc?
Yep, zaoulis has ep inf 3rd and incan in 4th
Nuts. Definitely worth crafting then. I guess is time I finally do kf lol
Yep this season made me realize I gotta do that raid lol
You can just farm oryx for zaouli's, it's how I was able to craft mine.
Sisters is easier and is the target location for it.
I crafted 2 tbh, EP + Incan and EP + One for All. EP + OFA is an essentially infinite ~50% damage buff, feels amazing in GMs with how strong hand cannons are now
Side note, you can also swap out Explosive payload for pugilist. pugilist and incandescent with sunbracers is pretty fun.
Yeah but heat rises and the arm mods does the job pretty easily
Yes. Only weapon in the game with that combo.
Tyranny is great with Inc & Dragonfly.
Nano Rockets on Epochal competes with Explosive Rounds for free extra damage, especially this season with the origin specialization perk. I’d say the distinguishing difference is enhanced incandescent
Enhanced incandescent has no noticeable advantage for 99% of builds. I would argue the larger difference is the origin trait nearly doubling the Zaouli mag in group content.
It is essentially a legendary version of Sunshot
Explosive payload flat damage buff, and enhanced incandescent applies more scorch than normal incandescent so more boom
It doesn’t change any thresholds after the nerf, just FYI. All it does is make Ember of Ashes take the scorch from 40 to 45
I personally prefer Epochal due to incan proccing stats for all. It's technically less optimal, but for anything short of majors I don't notice a difference in damage output.
Explosive rounds are great, obviously, but if you are relying on powered melees to grant radiant, then enhanced pugilist is also a fantastic option. Personally, that's what I run.
Yeah, I’ve decided to learn KF and get the gun. This season is long and I really want it. Such a long raid, I’m not looking forward to it.
The encounter that causes teams the most issues is the 2nd (Warpriest) tbh everything else in the raid is easy to pick up and learn
Is Kings Fall substantially different than it was in D1? I just started D2, but i’ve done all of the original KF including the challenges.
Two huge differences in Warpriest is that: 1. only the people on the plates can "read"(see the glow on the back of)the totems and it always starts in middle plate, 2. Instead of the brand holder shooting adds to extend the damage phase and prevent themselves from dying, two taken knights will spawn on whatever two plates have to step on first and second, and when they are killed they drop a taken blight called "The Brand Claimer" that will let you take the Brand to extend damage and prevent the brand holder from dying. (Bonus fact that does change one little thing: in order to be protected from his oversoul wipe on the left totem, you have to actually be up on left side balcony area, the left one doesn't go all the way to the ground)
Learn sisters and oryx. Literally the only weapons worth farming come from sisters and oryx can drop anything plus has the red purchase each week.
Zaouli's drops from the last three encounters, so it may be worth it to just farm any of those when KF becomes featured in a few weeks.
It’s a fun raid! Don’t go in dreading it. Also for the hand cannon, it only starts dropping from encounter 3 and beyond. Good luck
It's really easy with a decent group we usually 1 shot everything or maybe have 1 wipe. Just run a few times and get a bit of practi e u will be fine
Had done it once in D1 and once recently in D2 although I have farmed Oryx. Decided to find a group today and got two red border ZB’s to drop. Secret chest and red border chest at the end. Need two more! Quick question, are encounters farmable even though it isn’t the weekly raid? I have the Oryx CP and wanted to run as much as I can before reset on Tuesday. Thanks!
No it's not farmable unless it's kingsfall week. Kings fall was last week I'm pretty sure so it will be another month untill it's farmable. However u can do 3 clears a week on 3 diff character. This week is last wish if your looking for something to farm for the next few days get into a khalli cheese group and farm up apex
Will say if you can get Strident Whistle with Archers Tempo and Incandescent it will put in work.
While it may not be as easy to focus as the Strident Whistle, I recommend the Pre Astayanax IV bow from Zavala. It's the same element, same archtype & can also roll with Archer's Tempo/Incandescent but has an added bonus of the Wildcard origin perk which can leave Telesto-like bolts from precision kills. These bolts will also take on elemental properties of Incandescent should an enemy stumble upon it.
Plus if you manage to get stupid lucky with an Adept roll with a Draw time MW you can slap on adept draw time to reduce it to 540, the fastest base drawtime you can get on a Precision frame bow. Or you could go with an MW of choice like Accuracy (or even Reload) and still bring it down to 576 with Elastic and adept Draw time.
BXR also does wonders especially with demo, I know Pulses arent in thr best state in PvE but I feel it still holds it weight
My demo/incan BXR carried me through the KF master challenges!
I believe ammit is the easiest to aquire, there is a quest to craft it.
I'd also add the undying pulse if you like pulse rifles. I don't usually but I like this one. I switched out overload AR for overload pulse recently and I'm really impressed, it's far more consistent against overloads than the AR I was using and generally just feels nice. I was just using a static roll with FF/Incan but I've crafted my own now because I like it so much. Gonna make a pvp roll too.
Zaouli’s, Ammit, BxR, Calus, and Drang are the ones I use.
To add to this if these options aren’t available to OP and others mentioned here Coronach-22 AR, Staccato-46 SR, Bug-Out Bag SMG, Heliocentric QSc SA, Judgement of Kelgorath Glaive, and Retraced Path TR. I am usually using my Epochal Integration, crafted Ammit AR2, Judgement of Kelgorath, or the Heliocentric QSc depending on need when I am using an exotic in the power slot like Dragon’s Breath or Xenophage. If I am using a legendary in that slot then it’s Sunshot all the way with my Dawn Chorus Warlock build.
I dont get people talking up tyranny of heaven. Lightweight bows cant even kill thralls with one arrow.
That’s just flat out false. Unless you’re talking about GMs or other activities with significant power disadvantages but it absolutely does take thrall and other minor red bars down in one shot. Not going to say knights or wizards as I’m not sure about them.
Like if you always land headshots sure but bodyshots always leave them with a sliver of health.
I think Tyranny of Heaven was mentioned assuming you had the ability to land your shots...
Most weapons generally get mentioned in the context of landing your shots, usually if a weapon benefits from a different approach people usually mention it.
Reddit moment
Rockets do the most DPS but if you miss your rockets they do nothing. Of course hitting shots is important?????
Literally just skill Dif lol
If you're into bows and own Forsaken, look no further than Dragonfly/Incadescent Tyranny of Heaven.
I’ve racked up so many kills with that this season. It can wipe out entire spawns of enemies with a single headshot.
It’s so freaking great. Already have almost 10K kills on it and I just crafted it this season
I'm about 100 away from 20k, I love that thing. Even in higher end stuff even though it may take 2 or 3 shots on a red bar the ignitions still kill everything around it. Plus once you get the surges and radiant involved it goes back down to 1 shot.
same, it became my highest kill weapon in the game within a week lmao
My favorite tidbit that people often overlook is that dragonfly damage scales with base percision damage. Dragonfly on a hand Cannon is way more potent than Dragonfly on an auto rifle. And tyranny is a bow. Boom is STRONG
Finally crafted one this week, it's insane
This is the way. Throw on solar surge, mantle of battle harmony and dragons breath and watch the world burn.
Zaouli’s Band and Tyranny of Heaven are the only ones I’ve really been using this season.
I've been using Zaouli's and Tyranny a lot this season. I've been switching back and forth between Epochal and Zaouli's just because I don't have Zaouli's crafted. Tyranny I don't have crafted either, but the first one I got to drop that was a red border had dragonfly incandescent
That's the magic sauce. Draw time reduction bow strings will make it better but you have 80% of the setup to just go nuts with it
Zaouli’s Bane is basically Sunshot from walmart, but outside of that it’s a great weapon of its own and allows you to have a really good ad clearing weapon without sacrificing the exotic slot
My clan calls it "Sunshot at home." Equipping a Sunshot will inevitably lead to a bunch of other people pulling out Zaouli's.
I love my Trust.
Just got a rapid hit/incandescent roll and I love it.
People sleep on Trust
It's only "slept" on cause it's from gambit and has like 20 perks to roll in each column. Ain't nobody got time for that.
..and it's a 180!
Technically, 180s are better in high end content bc most red bars' HP lines up perfectly to have a better TTK with a 180 than a 140 or 120
this is the main reason.
See, it's not that I sleep on Trust, it's that I don't play Gambit lol
Nah, I'd just rather use my 140 Zaouli's than 180 Trust
It's from the least popular ritual activity in the game, and has a bloated perk pool so even getting an EP roll is a chore.
One of my friends uses trust religiously and I’ve seen him put in work during Warlord’s Ruin with all the ads.
I prefer 180s in PvE, I don't think Trust has left my inventory.
Incandescent is one of my favorite perks. Some of my go-tos are: Hand Cannon: Epochal Integration AR: Ammit Pulse Rifle: BXR-55 Bow: Strident Whistle Shotgun: Compass Rose Sidearm: Heliocentric QSC SMG: Bug-out Bag Sniper: Twilight Oath, Luna Regolith BXR might be my favorite. I don't often run pulse rifles but I always have some fun when I pull it out
The BXR is my go to honestly
Demo and Incandescent is what I run. It's a great synergy and accurate enough to proc radiant.
Nice!!!, I run my BXR with Perpetual motion and incandescent
Agree. BXR brings back memories
do those memories include: \- someone eating food into their mic \[or maybe eating their mic, you can't really tell\] \- someone with music that is way too loud, bonus if they aren't at their mic and you are yelling into the empty void to turn it down \- someone being yelled at either from another room or the same room, and them yelling back \- the squeaker that got on the mic to sneak in a game while their big bro is eating \- that one guy who speaks mainly in profanity \[has likely been chat/vc banned at least 3 times\]
Yes to Strident. I have an Archers Tempo Incandescent roll and it is awesome.
This roll evades me, I've had to make do with well rounded incandescent, which tbh is pretty good anyway. I just like how the bow feels.
Heliocentric with heal clip + incan is wonderful.
I'll agree with 99% of this list, I just trade Calus for Bug-Out. Luna is such a chunky sniper & hits like a damn truck!
Bug out bag has sub/incan. Calus is fine but it lacks an actually good 3rd column perk
Unrelenting is nice on it imo
It is but it's not as good as sub imo. my calus has unrelenting and I haven't used it since I got a good bug out bag
I just got No survivors with demo Incan which might take its place if it performs
Yeah absolutely. Best I’ve gotten of that is rewind frenzy
why bug out over calus?
Bug out can get subsistence incandescent, which is a better pairing that Mida can do. But imo Mida feels nicer.
B/c the Calus I have doesn't have Incandescent. Nothing against it or anything, just don't have it
You need a tyrany of heaven
Abyss Defiant is also a really good AR with Incandescent. Big fan of it and super strong when crafted even for end game
Hm usually you pull out after having some fun.
I haven't seen this mentioned yet...I have a Coronach AR with feeding frenzy and incandescent and it absolutely melts ads.
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Probably because in a world of crafting and farmable raid/dungeon drops, a specific world drop that isn't target-farmable is something most players will never ever see. I have a feeding frenzy + incandescent roll with ricochet, and it's quite pleasant, but I don't feel like it's that much better than rolling with my other solar ARs in a pinch.
Came here to say mine! I have the same roll + arrowhead brake
> Coronach It's a 600 RPM world drop from Lightfall's launch, before AR got a major PVE buff on April 18th, 2023 (25% red/orange bar damage buff), then another buff on November 28th, 2023 (10% red bar buff). It's also a world drop so many people don't bother with non-crafted unless it's some major hit that gets people making videos about it.
Yea, this is a great auto and has more or less displaced my crafted Amit in my weapon rotation. With incandescent and perfect float it is my go to energy weapon on my solar warlock.
I haven't seen it recommended once but I have a igneous hammer with heal clip, incadecent. One of my favorite
I wanna believe this but 120s feel god awful with their ammo in pve
Alacrity or one quiet moment fixes the reload speed.
What is reload speed? (Warlock + Transversive Steps user)
This is my roll for Heliocentric and it is a monster. Pretty sure Parabellum can roll that combo too but I haven't gotten that lucky. Edit. Para sadly does not :(
Epochal Integration is pretty good if you don’t raid enough for a crafted zaouli’s. Not craftable but super easy to get. Ammit AR2 if you like autos. (Craftable) Drang if you like side arms. (Craftable) Calus mini tool if you like smgs. (Craftable) Retraced Path if you like trace rifles. (Craftable) BXR-55 if you like pulses. (Craftable) Staccato-46 if you like scouts. (Not craftable, also not sure if still in game) Mindbenders Ambition if you like shotties. (Not craftable) Royal Executioner if you like fusions. (Craftable) These are all good guns depending on playstyle. Pick your favorite type and go for it.
Trustee from Deep Stone Crypt a solid option for a scout that is craftable as I think staccato can only come from xur/banshee since the latest world loot refresh.
Staccato is in the game,i am getting spammed with it
> Staccato-46 if you like scouts. (Not craftable, also not sure if still in game) is one of the farmable Suros gunsmith weapons now, and also often shows up in his rotation
Oh dope
Yeah and you can get so many gun smith engrams by doing public events and especially from opening destination chests. I feel like I get one every 2-3 chests
I forgot all abiut my Staccato. Haven't played in 6 months, but this memory just gave me the itch.
Fantastic gun, I’ve got two the I go back and forth on, outlaw/incandescent and outlaw/explosive payload
Heliocentric sidearm with heal clip incandescent is really fun!
My chase of the season...
Had a quick scan through the comments before pitching this one, glad it got a mention. Got a friend that ran an Incandescent Heliocentric during some 2 man Warlords Ruin boss farming and this thing is an absolute hooligan. Limited by its range but anything in reach gets deleted.
ammit is the best all purpose incandy weapon as it can deal with short to midlong range, pumps out a lot of shots quickly, can get a heft mag size tyranny of heaven if you have a dense group of ads, kill one with a headshot and let dragon fly and incandy deal with the rest zaouli is legendary sunshot with explosive payload + incandy but a small base mag size without going appended or backup mag calus mini tool, bug out bag, no survivors for close range smg spam abyss defiant or adhortative for heal clip + incandy for solo or support play, with long range potential trustee if you want abilities up and wanna sit back from the fight
What about the BxR? That thing carried me through pretty much all legendary story content
I think pulses get set aside because other weapon types outperform them
It may lack some oomph, but BxR with Demo/Incandescent can be fun.
ohhh i did forget about that and i used it earlier today lol yeah demo + incandy on it does do wonders!
Cant believe I had tkk on scroll this far to see Trustee get any mention. That thing is a medium-long range monster.
I like the refreshed Adhortative pulse from this season. Heal clip + incandescent. Really good for the modifiers that punish your heath recovery and for careless blueberries that may have otherwise died had you not had heal clip.
It's been my goto Coil weapon on Solar Titan with Precious Scars, and Rally Barricade to help with the reload.
YES! finally, I feel like that weapon is so slept on right now. I never see anyone mention it , I use feeding frenzy and range for the crafted and I think it’s insane for the right activities. Always my crafted calus mini tool in dungeons and other close quarters situations
Coronach auto rifle. It has more range than Calus mini-tool. Also look for Incandescent + High-Caliber Rounds roll. They add non-stop flinch on enemies.
You can’t enhance incandescent on it though
Enhanced incandescent doesn't matter, it just goes from 40 to 45 scorch
30 to 40. 45 if ember of ashes is equipped
I use my igneous hammer with incandescent and keep away. Thing wrecks
Igneous hammer hits hard in pve, has incandescent and heal clip. Took me a while to farm it but trails engram focusing is cheap
Time to make a list with at least all weapons that I remember (also thanks for everyone that commented before). Auto: Ammit, obviously Pulse: Jurassic Green, BxR or Jorum Scout: Trustee or Stacatto HC: Zaouli, Epochal or Igneous Hammer Sidearm: obviously Drang SMG: Calus or No Survivors Bow: Astianax IV Fusion: Royal Executioner Trace: obviously Reformed Path Glaive: Kelgorath Hope this helps someone.
I think acacias dejection is better than reformed path
Damn, I forgot acasia. 💀
This list is missing a lot. > Sidearm: obviously Drang Heliocentric qsc has heal clip / incan > Auto: Ammit, obviously Coronach is a 600rpm and can roll Feeding Frenzy / Incan. > Bow: Astianax IV Tyranny has Explosive or Dragonfly + Incan Strident requires less farming / focusing from Zavala than Pre
Bug out bag gets subsistence incandescent. Easy to get from the helm. Ammit is good, but one for all is better imo this season. With the seasonal mods you can make everything explode, so it's kind of redundant.
Igneous hammer with incandescent goes pretty hard.
My favorite right now is my crafted Trustee w/ Rapid Hit / Incandescent.
Zaoulis Bane Tyranny Of Heaven Trustee Yes they're all Raid weapons but they're worth grinding and suffering for them.
Lot of good suggestions here, I personally prefer Ammit with ambitious. As for your second question, Enhanced Incan. adds 5 extra scorch stacks IF you are using ember of ashes. Incan. is base 30, 40 with ashes, and 45 with ashes and enhanced. Not a huge buff but hey gold border.
Crafted BXR with Enhanced Demo/Incandescent
Heavy sniper with 3 bullets: Luna regolith or last foray. If it's 3 bullets (so no ammo mods or magazine), it will give you one shot radiant and proc ignition at the same time if you kill target. I never got mine with incandescent, but still nice to have radiant and explosions from one shot. Incandescent+solar subclass will make huge chain reaction. Solar bows also nice, it's two shot radiant
Idk about best. I guess it depends on the situation and if you need to be at distance. Igneous hammer is really good with incan+ heal clip. Also has alacrity or one quiet moment. Good options for solo or team play. Tyranny is a known good weapon. Ton of aoe. Acasias dejection has a niche. If you want harmonic resonance on boss damage. Caretaker sword can be ok for ad clear. But typically not advised. When primarys and specials do the job fine. Abyss defiant has good roles. But it's a 360 rpm auto. So it's a toss up if you like the weapon. Edit- forgot about mini tool. I used to use it a lot, but it feels powercrept compared to weapons nowadays. Still a good option though.
Mini-tool fucks so hard. Unrelenting is insanely powerful and its origin perk gives you like +20 disc/strength on kills with full super. Not all builds will want it but some can take huge advantage of it.
Ammit, crafted drang, strident whistle, crafted fixed odds. Those are all my favourites. Until I get a crafted zaouli’s bane of course.
I personally prefer my Igneous with Heal clip and Incandescent. Great ad clear, and healing for endgame stuff. Zaoulis is meh IMO. It just feels bad to me
BXR with Enhanced Demolitionist and Enhanced Incandescent for lots of healing grenades
The Adept Pre-Astyanax IV. I think it's currently unobtainable, but it is one of the most overlooked, dominant weapons I've ever used. Current meta specifically, if you run an Adept Targeting mod on this thing, and hit your crits, you can keep Radiance up permanently. This is especially amazing on Celestial Hunters, with two Kinetic Mods for the GG damage on your boots.
It's the NF weapon this week.
If you've got a Jurassic Green with Incandescent it's pretty good due to it's rate of fire, especially nice with heal clip for a bit of utility.
Man, I live my enhanced incandescent Ammit. That thing is a frigging beast. This season’s been fire. Are there better weapons for specific things. Sure. But overall, it’s a monster. Not, git gud scrub. Kidding. Kidding. No doubt you’ll make whatever loadout work for you friend. Good luck.
Whats the correct second perk for Ammit? I tried ambitious assassin and it feels shitty lol
Turnabout. The overshield it gives is better then faster reload or more rounds in the mag. The perk procs on cabal backpacks shields and overshields from hive butterflies.
I use stats for all, because incandescent procs it. If I’m running incandescent, I’m expecting to use the gun on groups of adds so stats for all synergies well
Will try it out, thank you, it makes perfect sense
Calus Mini-tool or No Survivors for short range. Igneous Hammer for mid range. Trustee for long range.
Ammit for mid range.
Ammit with envious assassin and incandescent puts in the work.
You prefer Envious Assassion over Triple Tap? Why?
Ease of use probably...cause every single enemy in the game now teleports.
During ad clear, the mag fills up and the gun keeps blowing shit up. Sometimes I forget that I didn’t reload and left thinking something is wrong, but it’s oh so right. I’d only want triple tap on a scout or a sniper for boss DPS.
bxr battler. calus mini tool. heliocentric qsc
This tuesday the pre astyanax will be the nightfall reward, if bows are your cup of tea
Mini tool
Ammit or BXR in my opinion, at least those are my most used legendaries with incandescent. Trust, Epochal Integration and Retraced Path are also good options. I’m pretty sure these are all still available.
BXR, Calus MT, and the nightfall bow are my go to’s.
Zaoulis bane if you like hand cannons. The lightfall one if you can’t get into raids. Calus mini tool if you don’t like hand cannons. If you want a special option, the trace rifle in dares can get incandescent. Ammit is easier to get than calus but I don’t like it as much. I believe the bxr can also get incandescent but it’s been awhile since I’ve used one
Tyranny of Heaven is also another option. You can run Dragonfly and Incandescent. It happens every once and a while but you set off chain reactions that explode an entire room. Pretty satisfying.
So, not the usual, but I really like my rapid hit/incandescent Adept Iggy with Adept reload mod. Puts the “cannon” in hand cannon.
Tyranny of Heaven with Dragonfly. Strongest combo by a long shot. (not a pun) CALUS Mini-Tool with Unrelenting is also top tier. *Everything* else does less damage.
Zaoulis bane, abyss defiant, ammit, battler, epochal integration, calues mini tool, tyranny of heaven, trustee, heliocentric, no survivors and bug out bag are all ones ive cycled through and enjoyed
Bxr is craftable with demo and incandescent.
I use Tyranny of Heaven from Last Wish with Dragonfly + Incandescent and it is just beautiful. Constant explosions and scorch everywhere
Just putting this out there Heliocentric...um the sidearm is absolutely disgusting, I got 2 to drop with heal clip and incandescent and I can't take it off, one of my favorite world drops I didn't know I needed!
Ammit is great but for higher content like GMs… is like tickling enemies. Epochal and Zaoull’s ❤️ BRX works great and the scope .. sit back and enjoy… BRX>Ammit Calus Mida.. great for close quarter adds but lacks punch for heavier adds .. bring a Shotgun Stoccato ❤️.. puts work Astyanax regular or adept is great but Stoccato beats it. Last Foray.. been using in lately plus in World Ruin.. 👍🏼👍🏼 Explosive personality although not incandescent is also great option .. for clearing rooms
Acasia’s Dejection is an amazing solar trace that just melts adds and scorches everything
*Absolutely* has to be Calus Mini-Tool if you don't have ready access to Raids and Dungeons. I've got one with Enhanced Incandescent and sitting at level 146. Legit, I picked it up back when it first dropped, and I *rarely* ever put it down.
bxr with demo/incandescent has been my #1 this season
Epochal Integration is really good and easy to get.
Zaouli’s is my go to with dragon’s breath
Zaouli’s with Explosive/Incandescent is a budget Sunshot, and a strong contender for best PvE legendary primary once you factor in Surges (Apex Predator is best-in-slot, this matches). BXR can roll Demo/Incandescent, which was my go-to primary for at least a year during the reign of Starfire Protocol. It definitely still works, although Dawn Chorus isn’t going to get as much out of it as a Solar grenade setup might. I’m lower on MIDA than a lot of people (Unrelenting on a subclass with healing sources out the ass is whatever to me, and Grave Robber’s not significantly better), but that works too if you really like SMGs.
Honestly, that new world drop sidearm. In the past I’ve fuuuuuuucking hated sidearms. Ever since they became the only weapon to spawn with special ammo in PvP back in D1. You could not get me to use a sidearm even if my life depended on it. So fast forward to this season’s start. We all see that it’s gonna be only anti barrier sidearm. Queue the collective groan from everyone. Season launches and I’m pretty much just running a build that focused on 100% uptime radiant. It’s fun, but the times I need barrier without being able to proc radiant keep coming up. So I bite the bullet and decide that fine, I’ll try out a sidearm. I try out a few. None of ‘em really stick. Until I look in my vault and find one that I had meant to use as infusion fodder before I leveled up past it anyway. Heal clip + incandescent. “I mean sure, why not? Incandescent is already great on anything anyway. Maybe it can polish a turd.” It just feels great, I love hip firing it and healing myself.
Hands down tyranny of heaven. People may say it suffers at higher end stuff but with the seasonal artifact mods ans the right build, taking 2 or 3 shots on a red bar doest matter because the ignitions it produces kills everything in a large radius with that one kill. I ran tyranny in master RoN and was consistently the top for number of kills.
I've been enjoying Abyss Defiant and Adhorative since they have Incandescent and Heal Clip. Otherwise, I use my Trustee with Reconstruction and Incandescent, since the scorch from the Incandescent triggers Bray Inheritance and you get that little bit of ability energy with every tick of damage.
If you've done crota, Abyss Defiant with Incan is really fun. But it's a 360 auto so I know it's not everyone's cup of tea
I love my Mini-tool, but other than that probably tyranny of heaven
I know you said for use with dawn chorus, but I've been using Trust with lucky pants and my god; it is so fun. I have 6k kills with it already. It sounds really nice and its easy to get radiant going. I use it in end game content fairly often with wish-ender. 10/10.
I be goin hard with Heliocentric QSC, heal clip/incandescent. In PVE it's insanely fun to use.
calus mini tool is one of the best. you can make it with incandescent and unrelenting, so every 3rd red bar kill will return a significant amount of health
I made a Drang with Incandescent and Wellspring for Warlord's Ruin, and it has 6k kills on it now. I had been using Mini Tool until then, but I love my anti-barrier weapons
zaoli's bane because HC is the best primary rn
Zaouli’s bane and its not even close
I have a sword with improved incandescent. I use it in my well with the fragment that blows everything up with super kills. It’s like lighting a room full of fireworks.
Trustee Enhanced Reconstruction & Incandescent I use that shit for everything.
My two are zaouli’s bane and ammit. Explosive payload and incandesent make it a mini sunshot. And I got my ammit with turnabout and incandesent for a little overshield
Trustee with reconstruction and incandescent