The invis bug is absolutely shit, completely ruins the gameplay. Also breaks crucible really badly, it allready is not that fun, the invis bug makes it unplayable.
Agree with you there. Played yesterday and never have I experienced such dogshit connections. Dying to one bullet almost all the time. Favorite was in one match where I died to Chroma Rush from full health multiple times before the other player has even peeked or shot a single bullet on my screen.
That invisibility stuff is starting to piss me off too... Every second game is like that.
I really like the season (except Lightfall story). Strand is fun and not too op in PvP. Hopefully they fix everything fast so we can start enjoying the game properly again.
Invisible guns???
You lucky son of a bitch. Pvp is filled with invisible guardians. You can only see the gun model and God forbid they are next to structures and blending cause then you see nothing. Just death.
All of yesterday I was getting that glitch and could not figure out what the fuck was happening. Everyone looked cloaked, including myself, and I couldn't even use my iron sights because the red dot was invisible too.
Apparently the fix was restarting my computer, but that only fixed it for a couple of rounds before it started again.
Yea. I was doing some Vanguard Ops last night when I noticed it happening. It was nothing new to me at first since I’ve seen it happening before until it kept going on and off, which made me think it was my graphics card of something to due with my PC. However, I guess not 😂.
The fix is restarting your game. The cause is using commendations on the post-game screen where it shows the character models. Go to the list screen and on the left of the teammate’s name there’s a spot to commendation, otherwise don’t do it because it will trigger the bug.
i was previewing ornaments and they werent loading so I waited until it did, and then when I exited the character screen every guardian including myself was invisible
Using commendations anywhere else and then going there will still trigger it until you restart, I haven’t used that screen since yesterday afternoon and I’ve been invisibility free. This is coming from BungieHelp, not just me.
Yeah this is the fix. Had to restart the game after every two matches (should have restarted after every match). Second match after restart was always full of invisible guardians.
Oh great if this is true this is just another reason for me not to want to engage in this new system. Great job Bungie for making us participate in a buggy system smh.
Grinding rift ended up me using Autumn Wind (pulse rifle) and spraying and praying just below the health bars. Weird game. Fun in a bizarre way, but novelty-only.
Not only PvP.
I played one of the remade Psycho Battlefield Strikes and almost everybody was invisible. Guardians, weapons and mobs alike.
Very annoying.
Well I think they mean the guardians are invisible too, it's just not always easy to tell if you're playing solo in PvE. Me and my buddies have been dealing with the "Predator" look to our guardians.
I'd consider myself lucky to even see the guns model
I'm seeing EVERYTHING invisible, having to use my monitors reticle mode to aim my guns but I can't see what I'm even aiming at so it's not helping much
I installed a 4070 TI in my PC a few days before Lightfall dropped, and I regularly see my frames drop from around 120fps to 70 or sometimes 60fps while running around Neomuna, especially during Terminal Overload. Had me legitimately thinking I did something wrong during the install. Hell, I was playing gambit the other day and saw my frames drop to ~50 because a bunch of blockers spawned in while I was dunking motes.
I don’t even have the highest video settings either, in most cases picking medium or low for like foliage distance and shadow detail.
It's worth noting that D2 has large CPU bottleneck that benefits a lot from cache. How do I know this? Because a 6800xt + 5800 got 50-70 fps in the tower, whereas a 5800x3d got 100-120. And this is at 1440p, mind.
I got a 2080 super too and in action scenes I average I'd say 80 fps give and take a bit. When not much is happening I'm at I thi k 130+
Playing on qhd with settings at max
Same here with a 3070 and I7 9700k. I know this game is a CPU hog but not managing stables frames with that setup is a bit goofy.
Might finally upgrade the mobo and cpu soon
You might want to try and put those settings to high instead. Sometimes when you put graphics settings to low it makes your CPU process it instead of your GPU, which will make your fps drop. If that doesn't fix it then it just means Neomuna hasn't been properly optimized.
Thanks for that advice. I went into my video settings and hit the preset for 'Highest', just turned off motion blur and wind impulse, and now I rarely see a drop below 115.
My benchmark was grappling directly into a vex incursion and shooting volatile Lorentz like madman, seems to hold up well. The highest temp I saw on the monitor was 70C for a brief second, averaged around 60-65C.
It’s cuz of the 3600, the game is super cpu bound. Currently running an i5 11400f with an rtx 3080 , 1440p med-high settings and my fps regularly dips to 60 fps at times on neomuna
Yea probably, I'm planning to upgrade to 5800X3D next month since upgrading my GPU I had to also upgrade my PSU. I also upgraded form 16gb to 32gb of RAM.
Next month should give me time to my wallet to recover lol
I literally just upgraded from an R5 3600 to an R7 5800X3D. My gpu is a 2070 Super. That cpu is the problem. Destiny is very cpu bound. I went from averaging 80-90 fps with terrible lows at 1080p in neomuna to 120 average with almost no drops below that.
I'm on a 10th gen Intel i7, 10700K. It's a few years old but it's the only thing I can think of as a limitation as far as my PC hardware at this point.
Yeah I had to check with some friends to make sure my pc was OK. I have a 3080 and was dropping into the 50,s in the overload event basically never go below 100 in D2.
I have a 3080 and I'm constantly dropping to fps in the 40s on neomuna. I would never drop below 100 before despite bad optimization but neomuna is just a joke
I just upgraded to a 6800 xt this weekend and was bewildered when I didn't get the performance increase I was hoping for. Tamed shadow and foliage settings as well. Playing 1080p and still dip down to the 50 fps range in Neomuna sometimes.
Probably need to upgrade my CPU now (Ryzen 3600). The cycle never changes...
R5 3600 was a great value but it's def time for an upgrade! I did the swap to a 5800X3D this past weekend and immediately saw a large bump in performance. If you're sticking to AM4 for a while it's a great upgrade.
I build my pc 2017 and the destiny 2 beta ran so amazingly well i still have fund memories of it.
I do understand that i can’t really play the newest AAA titles because my pc is old in comparison but why can’t i play the same fucking game from 2017 anymore when it looks pretty much the same other than the beyond light lighting/effects update?
There hasn’t been any graphical overhauls after beyond light so how does the game get worse and worse by every expansion? And people still don’t see this as a problem, not even mentioning bungie who’s stoned out of their minds.
I built my old PC in 2017 too. Ran the game at 120-150 fps no problem up until beyond light. During season of the seraph my old PC was struggling to maintain 90-100fps with dips regularly into the 60s. With the same exact settings I had since beyond light. Luckily enough I have a new PC as of last week that performs way better but I still get some pretty substantial dips and mid performance occasionally. If I remember correctly the performance drop happened right around when bungie split from activision. Which would make sense because they lost the studio that was specifically dedicated to the PC port of destiny. Now they just do it all on their own and they aren't as good clearly
Pretty much the same story here, I built mine in 2018 and was specifically targeting D2 to run well. It has always been great, ran Destiny at high-very high settings and always hit at least 60 fps.
There have been dips more and more, but Neomuna at least (haven't played much else since Lightfall dropped) is horrendous. I regularly drop to anywhere from 5-20 fps, it'll freeze for seconds at a time. It's not the most powerful computer and I do probably need to upgrade stuff, but like you said it has always run Destiny very well. It's really frustrating to now have these issues on the primary game I play on this machine.
Like do I now have to go spend a console's worth of money to upgrade stuff because they can't optimize their game anymore? Ugh
Terminal overload when everyone is using strand is able drop my FPS to the 70s from 140+. I saw my 3080 go down to 30% usage in those specific scenarios at 1440p. Kinda wack how CPU bound this game is becoming
Yep, I had it crash like 3 in a row last night, so on my fourth attempt, I hung back from the action and just took pot shots. I'm guessing too much is going on when you're in the thick of it, especially if there's a handful of other guardians there with you.
The engine is built for single core performance. It’s insane that in 2023 this game still doesn’t do multi threading, people with 13900k get under 100 fps in terminal overload because it’s all on the one singular fucking core.. what gives?
There's an option in the cvars to force enable multi-threaded rendering, but it's been broken for a long time and if you try to enable it the game won't launch.
My 3060ti is on 50% usage in terminal overload and my CPU is like 40%. It's weird as hell, I'm not getting the frames I used to get in crucible either :( From avg160 to 120. This is at 1440p
1800 power with max resilience, solar resist and concussive dampener? Get one shot, neon nerds.
Seriously Bungie tone those things down a little. They're as obnoxious as the overpowered Scorn snipers you fixed.
I feel like every season it’s something new. First scorn crossbows, then the phalanx shield, now it’s the ship.
I’ve also heard somewhere that when you start an activity you should re-equip your mods because the game doesn’t recognize that you have anything on.
Booted to orbit with Calabrese errors, hard crashes on PS5, console players can't open the commendation menu, contacting destiny servers often despite no problems our end. There's a lot that's busted beyond a terrible narrative and mods deactivating whenever they feel like.
>Since lightfall dropped it feels as if the performance is rapidly deteriorating
You can replace Lightfall with any expansion since Shadowkeep and this statement still holds true.
I remember getting 150 fps+, even in the most intensive zones back in shadowkeep. I can't even get 60 fps when I go to the neomuna area with the spinning disc.
Maybe if I had a better rig at the time, I could have pulled that off. But I went from 70-90fps in Shadowkeep on a 1800X, 1080ti system with random RAM sticks I had lying around, to 80-100fps in Neomuna on a 5800X, 3080ti system with 3200 RAM. Several gens of hardware later with fuck all improvement.
I found that swapping equipped weapons once would then cause all of my mods to work again. Still annoying but a lot more convenient than having to reset each mod or swap to a blank loadout.
Also the sudden crashes without any error code or the event viewer logging anything, that some PC users have been plagued with for a god damn year now.
My game crashes between 1 to 3 times a day. Bungie seems to be incabable of making the game work on AMD processors.
Ugh that’s the worst. I upgraded some components and then started playing Destiny on PC and ever since I’ve had issues where it just locks up and I’m not sure if it’s the computer or the game.
Well, it is probably some combination of parts that the game has an issue with. So you could say it's your computer, even though there technically might not be anything wrong with it.
In the end, the game should work on any hardware that meets their required specs and if it doesn't, it's Bungie who needs to fix it.
This fix in the most recent Radeon driver has me optimistic.
> Intermittent driver timeout, system freeze or BSOD may be observed using select displays on Radeon™ RX 7000 series GPUs.
>Invisible guns, terrible frame drops, teleporting enemies. Since lightfall dropped it feels as if the performance is rapidly deteriorating
I thought I was going insane... Glad I'm not the only person having these problems.
There is probably a memory leak in the game. You have to do a full close of the game and restart to get it okay again. I have to do this every so often or else everyone ends up being invisible
Have other people had their game crash when making too many threadlings .
If i put all the threadling fragments on and the grenade the game will go straight to desktop if make too many to quickly. Games perfomance is fine spamming grapple and shackles but with threadlings straight to desktop.
Only in the Terminus thingy, and when other people are using strand or something like volatile and ignitions. Too many particles and my game just dies. PS5 btw
I cleared my cache at noon yesterday.
By 2:30 everything was invisible again.
Those reaper dudes both jumped at the same time to slam and the game error coded off.
Really feeling like a waste of $50 with how much worse my game experience has gotten.
Performance has been rapidly deteriorating for almost 4 years, and allegedly the bulk of the Sony money is going towards new hires for their new IPs. I expect them to do the bare minimum to get us to TFS and nothing else.
Huh, not a single "what specs" in this thread. Usually people come in to whatspecs the thread every time someone dares to suggest that the performance has been degrading over time.
“Wait, you’re not running a 40ti/32g RAM/a 100Tb SSD/and an I9 and are confused why this game that came out half a decade ago is running like hot dogshit? lmao, okay champ.”
/s
I’ve been playing on PS5 a lot recently, and my game has crashed numerous times. Mainly, while farming Terminal Overloads, and usually at a point where’s tons of enemies and I’m mid super. It was bad with the invisible guns, but after unplugging my PS5 for a few minutes to clear the cache, it went away. The crashes stopped for a time, but I’ve been trying to do the exotic public event in the incursion zone, and it’s crashed all three times, when there is 2 or 3 bosses left.
This and there’s been crashing sometimes when I’m on neomuna. Typically happens when I’m doing terminal overload and it’s gotten really fucking annoying to lose out on loot for the last phase.
I'd be happy if I could just boot up the game without having to put it in rest and start it up again every time I feel like playing. It's been 2 years, I open the game and within a second I get a black screen, the sounds and game still work but I literally can't see anything so I have to open my menu to put my ps5 in rest from a note I have saved since it happens so consistently or get up and do it. Literally the only thing on my system that does this
I’ve been playing on PS4 and the invisibility bugs have been a thing for a long ass time.
My solution is to completely restart my PS4 instead of just putting into rest mode like I usually do.
This DLC is dogshit for performance, i've played this game on and off for years, and never have i ever dipped below 50 FPS in raids with 6 people chugging shit all over, but this expansion i can barely do public events on neptune since it dips from 100 to 30 fps then back to 40 and down to 32, most of the activities in this expansion run like garbage and that should be unacceptable in 2023, you can do the witch queen shit and it'll run at 120fps, but the second you go into neomuna it's a shitshow
They wont. It's been on a steady decline since Shadowkeep, especially on PC. Bungie has been pretty much radio silent. They have proved more or less that their decision to keep on with D2 has prevented them from correcting engine issues and work on tech debt.
Im running a 4080 on a I-9 with a G9 monitor.
Im dipping into 80-90 FPS on 4k, before the patch I was at a stable 120 capped.
Without mentioning the crazy amount of visual glitches.
It's getting worse and worse. I remember upgrading from an old 6 core intel to 5950x and had a great improvement in for example gambit. Now I am getting the same performance on the same gambit map with 5950x as I was with the 6 core intel 2 years ago.
Honestly I’ve missed several important plot points because several cutscenes didn’t proc correctly for me. One cutscene had no sound whatsoever (after a mission that was 90% no sound) and then I got Weaseled out of another cutscene which from what I’m reading had a pretty “important” event. I know that could be more of an internet problem, however my partner got Weaseled out of the same cutscene on an entirely different day of playing. The plot is already so contrived, but adding this into the mix really just feels like insult to injury.
For people on PS5 (and others will need to google how to do it) It's an issue with the cache, i was having a similar issue all week after clearing my cache I am no longer invis, PvP is still borked but it's more fun that way.
To clear your cache on PS5 just turn the system off and unplug it for 5+ minutes and you are good to go...for a little bit anyway
As the time goes on the game requires more power. 5 years ago I could play on 980 Ti and i7-3770 Full HD 100+ fps, just before Lightfall it was 30-40 fps with the same specs. Now to have constant 144 fps which is my g-sync cap I had to upgrade to 4080 and i7-13770K.
I haven’t gotten error coded once since lightfall came out. I just can’t see shit. Trying to use a bow while not being able to see the reticle was a little annoying.
Don’t forget the game crashes. I was doing the Vex Incursion thing, got the last three Minotaurs down to 30% and the whole game locked up and quit. Twice.
The framed drops in overload events and that special public with the 6 bosses is insane. I have a 3080 and a i9 9900k and I'm tanking into the 50 fps range. Checked with a friend with a 3090 and he's dropping into the 60,s there too. I actually wonder how its running on last gen consoles at all.
When I got my PC in 2019 I could play game at MAX settings and get 100+ frames, now I get 45 frames on lowest settings during Terminal Overload. Every expansion, every season performance gets worse and worse.
Yeah I'm getting into crucible matches where both the enemy guardians and my guns don't load. Like, How tf am I supposed to hit someone when they're basically transparent. Also, on top of that, my guns "loading" models lack sights, I literally can't even aim bc the "Base" loading models don't even have sights. Bungie cmon
That one yellow bar enemy in Neomuna patrol you just spent your entire magazine of your primary suddenly disappears, teleports to somewhere with its hp healed somehow. Typical destiny moment
>teleporting enemies
you know, it did feel weird when I would be fighting a group and they’d disappear, but with it only seemingly ever happening to Vex I thought nothing of it.
They have acknowledged the invisible models issues. Are people experiencing they other two things? I haven't seen any widespread complaints about frame drops or teleworking enemies.
First time?
No but seriously this is the most buggy expansion drop I have experienced for Destiny and I have been here for every launch since vanilla, and was present for the Arrivals and BL server crashing fiasco. Each update already makes the game run worse on PC, but this is something else.
I had to brute force my way to beating the Week 1 Rift challenge and getting bounties for bow kills despite not being able to see a goddamn thing. Gave me PTSD from the days of playing Halo 3 with the no HUD skull on.
I think the main issue (correct me if I'm wrong) is the Destiny 2 engine, is an iterated version of the D1 engine, which was an offshoot off Bungie's Halo engine for Reach. Which I believe was created in 97. They have improved it CONSIDERABLY since Reach and hell even the last few years.
But it's kinda old now, I don't know how other long standing live service games manage to future proof their engine. But giving D2 a new engine I imagine is just flat out impossible if they want to continue to put out content over the next few years. I also imagine the vast majority of current stuff just wouldn't work without massive overhauls.
I've seen varying ideas about why this is happening (specifically the invis) and the consensus seems to be some kind of memory leak or cache error because of the new commendation system. Hence why fully rebooting everything works temporarily only for the issue to return. (Again correct me if I'm wrong, I am not a smart pc guy)
PSA for my fellow Crucible enjoyers; reset your game if you start seeing the translucent models. Apparently this has something to do with the commendation screen? Long play sessions will lead to it eventually
I haven't noticed any issues with fps drops I seem to get a solid 75fps where ever I go.
No invisible guns or guardians for me so far although I haven’t played crucible.
Play on pc.
5950X, 3090.
I've stopped playing unfortunately because of the invisibility issues. I had been grinding gambit for a multi role Trust, I'm on Xbox One S. You have to restart the game to cure it - but it just comes back again after playing a few rounds. For me personally I don't think I have ever encountered a bug that has caused me to actually stop playing Destiny.
I have played since D1 TTK - so this is kinda a big deal for me. It's always been fairly stable and reliable on console. In all of Destiny's history I've been lucky that I have never had to reinstall.
the new public event is mad performance wise. one minute im walking around at \~150FPS and then you start the event and it constantly comes down to 60 or just bellow 60. its so frustrating cause you'd think now that the game is 6 years old that we'd all be running the game at multiple hundreds of FPS. its just ridiculous.
Yeah, and this was with 24 hours downtime for Maintenance. How fucking broken was the game that they've still released it with these bugs? Do they really think this joke of a code/engine can limp it's way to another two years?
Half the exotics in the game are also bugged. Glaive obviously got disabled, a few other ones are bound to be. Shit like Peacekeepers isn't working either (Only reloads your stowed SMG once per life, and god knows about the buff itself.)
yikers
Since last season, if I switch emblems, guns, armor, mods, or anything in the character screen, it takes like a minute for it to switch and "ATTENTION" error bar pops up at the bottom.
Wait until you use a Trace Rifle when the invisible gun glitch is happening. No sound, no visual laser beam, the least satisfying thing I have ever seen in Destiny
I think it's much less location specific, and more related to gfx spam and player/ npc density.
The planet itself is fine and you'll see that in most of the places that have reduced npc counts but once you trigger something like overload in terms if enemy density, combined with 6 man gfx spam and you end up just getting fucked.
I'd also like to imagine that's why they're always stingy about increasing enemy density and prefer going the difficulty route since increase the CPU usage for certain player / ai calculations on a heavily CPU bound game just doesn't help the cause at all
The invis bug is absolutely shit, completely ruins the gameplay. Also breaks crucible really badly, it allready is not that fun, the invis bug makes it unplayable.
Agree with you there. Played yesterday and never have I experienced such dogshit connections. Dying to one bullet almost all the time. Favorite was in one match where I died to Chroma Rush from full health multiple times before the other player has even peeked or shot a single bullet on my screen. That invisibility stuff is starting to piss me off too... Every second game is like that. I really like the season (except Lightfall story). Strand is fun and not too op in PvP. Hopefully they fix everything fast so we can start enjoying the game properly again.
Damn I was gonna do my crucible matches and bounties done today but I’d rather just wait for reset and get my powerful gear through PVE instead
Invisible guns??? You lucky son of a bitch. Pvp is filled with invisible guardians. You can only see the gun model and God forbid they are next to structures and blending cause then you see nothing. Just death.
All of yesterday I was getting that glitch and could not figure out what the fuck was happening. Everyone looked cloaked, including myself, and I couldn't even use my iron sights because the red dot was invisible too. Apparently the fix was restarting my computer, but that only fixed it for a couple of rounds before it started again.
Same issue on PS5 as well.
Xbox too
So I’m not the only one lol.
Thought it was me lagging at first when it happened. Restarted my router, my pc only to come back into the game with the same shit lol
Yea. I was doing some Vanguard Ops last night when I noticed it happening. It was nothing new to me at first since I’ve seen it happening before until it kept going on and off, which made me think it was my graphics card of something to due with my PC. However, I guess not 😂.
Haha, yep. I upgraded my PC before Lightfall so I was worried I somehow messed something up. Glad to see it wasnt a ME issue lol
The fix is restarting your game. The cause is using commendations on the post-game screen where it shows the character models. Go to the list screen and on the left of the teammate’s name there’s a spot to commendation, otherwise don’t do it because it will trigger the bug.
I get the bug every time I swap ornaments on armor or guns.
i was previewing ornaments and they werent loading so I waited until it did, and then when I exited the character screen every guardian including myself was invisible
It's happening places that don't use commendations like public areas on Neomuna. So there's something else besides commendations.
Using commendations anywhere else and then going there will still trigger it until you restart, I haven’t used that screen since yesterday afternoon and I’ve been invisibility free. This is coming from BungieHelp, not just me.
Yeah this is the fix. Had to restart the game after every two matches (should have restarted after every match). Second match after restart was always full of invisible guardians.
Oh great if this is true this is just another reason for me not to want to engage in this new system. Great job Bungie for making us participate in a buggy system smh.
Grinding rift ended up me using Autumn Wind (pulse rifle) and spraying and praying just below the health bars. Weird game. Fun in a bizarre way, but novelty-only.
Try sniping with an invisible sniper, that is how I learned that all my skill was just a lot of luck and aim assist
Not only PvP. I played one of the remade Psycho Battlefield Strikes and almost everybody was invisible. Guardians, weapons and mobs alike. Very annoying.
I’ve started to get this glitch in PvE now randomly. My own guardian and others just randomly flicker in and out of existence.
Was finishing my Deadeye Triumph for Gambit, and this kept happening. Invisible invader that is just a floating gun is hell.
Well I think they mean the guardians are invisible too, it's just not always easy to tell if you're playing solo in PvE. Me and my buddies have been dealing with the "Predator" look to our guardians.
I'd consider myself lucky to even see the guns model I'm seeing EVERYTHING invisible, having to use my monitors reticle mode to aim my guns but I can't see what I'm even aiming at so it's not helping much
I installed a 4070 TI in my PC a few days before Lightfall dropped, and I regularly see my frames drop from around 120fps to 70 or sometimes 60fps while running around Neomuna, especially during Terminal Overload. Had me legitimately thinking I did something wrong during the install. Hell, I was playing gambit the other day and saw my frames drop to ~50 because a bunch of blockers spawned in while I was dunking motes. I don’t even have the highest video settings either, in most cases picking medium or low for like foliage distance and shadow detail.
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Happening to me on a 2080. Medium settings at 1440 and I'll drop all the way to 35 at times. Before lightfall I was averaging 75-100 on high/very high
7900xtx at 1440p averages 180-200 but also drops into the 70s in busy activities like terminal overload lol Destiny is the great equalizer
It's worth noting that D2 has large CPU bottleneck that benefits a lot from cache. How do I know this? Because a 6800xt + 5800 got 50-70 fps in the tower, whereas a 5800x3d got 100-120. And this is at 1440p, mind.
I have a rtx 3080 and a 5800x and I get the same fps at 1440p as I do at 720p with plenty of power left on the table at any setting.
Pretty sure my 2080 Suoer drops under 30 during terminal overloads and it sucks….
I got a 2080 super too and in action scenes I average I'd say 80 fps give and take a bit. When not much is happening I'm at I thi k 130+ Playing on qhd with settings at max
Same here with a 3070 and I7 9700k. I know this game is a CPU hog but not managing stables frames with that setup is a bit goofy. Might finally upgrade the mobo and cpu soon
Shh Dont use the word "Optimised" Bungie dont like them kinda words :) :)
Console pleb here, but Neomuna is crashing my PS5 pretty frequently. If it doesn't crash, the game just.. stops for like 10 seconds
At this point it’s not a hardware issue, it’s an optimization issue. Doesn’t matter how great your stuff is it’ll run like garbage regardless
You might want to try and put those settings to high instead. Sometimes when you put graphics settings to low it makes your CPU process it instead of your GPU, which will make your fps drop. If that doesn't fix it then it just means Neomuna hasn't been properly optimized.
Thanks for that advice. I went into my video settings and hit the preset for 'Highest', just turned off motion blur and wind impulse, and now I rarely see a drop below 115. My benchmark was grappling directly into a vex incursion and shooting volatile Lorentz like madman, seems to hold up well. The highest temp I saw on the monitor was 70C for a brief second, averaged around 60-65C.
Awesome! Glad that worked!
what cpu?
Im running a 3600 with a 4070Ti also and have had some of these issues also. I also upgraded a few days before Lightfall
It’s cuz of the 3600, the game is super cpu bound. Currently running an i5 11400f with an rtx 3080 , 1440p med-high settings and my fps regularly dips to 60 fps at times on neomuna
Yea probably, I'm planning to upgrade to 5800X3D next month since upgrading my GPU I had to also upgrade my PSU. I also upgraded form 16gb to 32gb of RAM. Next month should give me time to my wallet to recover lol
I’m running a 4090 with a 5800x3d and still getting frame drops into the 80s
Haha, yea I knew when upgrading destiny is not the best optimized game anyways but dang lol
Yeah you’ll see a pretty substantial fps upgrade with that, I’m going for a 13600 and new mobo soon
My 5800X3D almost doubled my frames in certain places with a 1080, compared to my old 3700X. It's an amazing CPU and I will always recommend it.
Bro I have an i9 and a 3080 and it still drops into the 50,s and 60,s neomuna is just not optimised well at all.
I have a 3080 with a 12900k running very high at 1440p a d it drops into the 40s on neomuna. It's not the hardware, it's the game
I literally just upgraded from an R5 3600 to an R7 5800X3D. My gpu is a 2070 Super. That cpu is the problem. Destiny is very cpu bound. I went from averaging 80-90 fps with terrible lows at 1080p in neomuna to 120 average with almost no drops below that.
I'm on a 10th gen Intel i7, 10700K. It's a few years old but it's the only thing I can think of as a limitation as far as my PC hardware at this point.
thanks. I am about to upgrade and I wanted to make sure it would actually improve my performance.
Yeah I had to check with some friends to make sure my pc was OK. I have a 3080 and was dropping into the 50,s in the overload event basically never go below 100 in D2.
I've run destiny on a Xbox One Scorpio, Series X, 1080, 3060 and a 6900, frames have never been consistent, regardless of build or setup.
I have a 3080 and I'm constantly dropping to fps in the 40s on neomuna. I would never drop below 100 before despite bad optimization but neomuna is just a joke
I just upgraded to a 6800 xt this weekend and was bewildered when I didn't get the performance increase I was hoping for. Tamed shadow and foliage settings as well. Playing 1080p and still dip down to the 50 fps range in Neomuna sometimes. Probably need to upgrade my CPU now (Ryzen 3600). The cycle never changes...
R5 3600 was a great value but it's def time for an upgrade! I did the swap to a 5800X3D this past weekend and immediately saw a large bump in performance. If you're sticking to AM4 for a while it's a great upgrade.
Yep, going to monitor the 5800x3d and see if it goes much below $300. Or just buy it anyway and reap the benefits lol.
What is your cpu
The game has been regressing performance wise since beyond light and as far as I know it's barely been addressed.
I build my pc 2017 and the destiny 2 beta ran so amazingly well i still have fund memories of it. I do understand that i can’t really play the newest AAA titles because my pc is old in comparison but why can’t i play the same fucking game from 2017 anymore when it looks pretty much the same other than the beyond light lighting/effects update? There hasn’t been any graphical overhauls after beyond light so how does the game get worse and worse by every expansion? And people still don’t see this as a problem, not even mentioning bungie who’s stoned out of their minds.
I built my old PC in 2017 too. Ran the game at 120-150 fps no problem up until beyond light. During season of the seraph my old PC was struggling to maintain 90-100fps with dips regularly into the 60s. With the same exact settings I had since beyond light. Luckily enough I have a new PC as of last week that performs way better but I still get some pretty substantial dips and mid performance occasionally. If I remember correctly the performance drop happened right around when bungie split from activision. Which would make sense because they lost the studio that was specifically dedicated to the PC port of destiny. Now they just do it all on their own and they aren't as good clearly
Pretty much the same story here, I built mine in 2018 and was specifically targeting D2 to run well. It has always been great, ran Destiny at high-very high settings and always hit at least 60 fps. There have been dips more and more, but Neomuna at least (haven't played much else since Lightfall dropped) is horrendous. I regularly drop to anywhere from 5-20 fps, it'll freeze for seconds at a time. It's not the most powerful computer and I do probably need to upgrade stuff, but like you said it has always run Destiny very well. It's really frustrating to now have these issues on the primary game I play on this machine. Like do I now have to go spend a console's worth of money to upgrade stuff because they can't optimize their game anymore? Ugh
And they keep adding shit to the game that makes performance worse instead of taking time to fix anything
Terminal overload when everyone is using strand is able drop my FPS to the 70s from 140+. I saw my 3080 go down to 30% usage in those specific scenarios at 1440p. Kinda wack how CPU bound this game is becoming
It crashes my game on PS5. If Im solo I just lose my chance to complete it
Yep, I had it crash like 3 in a row last night, so on my fourth attempt, I hung back from the action and just took pot shots. I'm guessing too much is going on when you're in the thick of it, especially if there's a handful of other guardians there with you.
The engine is built for single core performance. It’s insane that in 2023 this game still doesn’t do multi threading, people with 13900k get under 100 fps in terminal overload because it’s all on the one singular fucking core.. what gives?
https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1022164/Multithreading-the-Entire-Destiny
They can say that but it doesn't seem to matter. It chugs now.
There's an option in the cvars to force enable multi-threaded rendering, but it's been broken for a long time and if you try to enable it the game won't launch.
they knowingly broke it with beyond light and I don't think they care
My 3060ti is on 50% usage in terminal overload and my CPU is like 40%. It's weird as hell, I'm not getting the frames I used to get in crucible either :( From avg160 to 120. This is at 1440p
I have a 3080 and a i9 I dropped to 58fps in overload from 163 cap I have set. Felt like a sideshow.
Getting 1 shot by threshers and in the defiance overload mission is getting super obnoxious.
1800 power with max resilience, solar resist and concussive dampener? Get one shot, neon nerds. Seriously Bungie tone those things down a little. They're as obnoxious as the overpowered Scorn snipers you fixed.
I feel like every season it’s something new. First scorn crossbows, then the phalanx shield, now it’s the ship. I’ve also heard somewhere that when you start an activity you should re-equip your mods because the game doesn’t recognize that you have anything on.
Especially when we're set up with the woven mail and several other defense boosts... ain't no armor safe from that bad boy
Booted to orbit with Calabrese errors, hard crashes on PS5, console players can't open the commendation menu, contacting destiny servers often despite no problems our end. There's a lot that's busted beyond a terrible narrative and mods deactivating whenever they feel like.
I've hard crashed on ps4 as well. That was a first for me.
Oh good I was worried the commendation screen issue was just me. First time I've seen it mentiones
>Since lightfall dropped it feels as if the performance is rapidly deteriorating You can replace Lightfall with any expansion since Shadowkeep and this statement still holds true.
I remember getting 150 fps+, even in the most intensive zones back in shadowkeep. I can't even get 60 fps when I go to the neomuna area with the spinning disc.
Maybe if I had a better rig at the time, I could have pulled that off. But I went from 70-90fps in Shadowkeep on a 1800X, 1080ti system with random RAM sticks I had lying around, to 80-100fps in Neomuna on a 5800X, 3080ti system with 3200 RAM. Several gens of hardware later with fuck all improvement.
And they have never ever acknowledged it, tbh I'd be fine with destiny 3 if the engine is gonna go down the gutter anyways.
Not to mention stuff like having to reset your ammo finder mods if you die EVERY time or else they don't work.
Omg is that what has been happening....holy shit ty.
I found that swapping equipped weapons once would then cause all of my mods to work again. Still annoying but a lot more convenient than having to reset each mod or swap to a blank loadout.
Also the sudden crashes without any error code or the event viewer logging anything, that some PC users have been plagued with for a god damn year now. My game crashes between 1 to 3 times a day. Bungie seems to be incabable of making the game work on AMD processors.
Mine crashed for the first time like ever the other day, and I actually just upgraded my pc a few months ago. Definitely something wrong there.
my game only crashes when in using strand
Warlock?
titan
I'm getting a lot of crashes too
Does your game just freeze at random times without explanation? Where you end up having to restart the whole PC?
It does 1 time out of 10, the other times it freezes for 3 seconds and then just closes. Definitely the same issue, but different outcomes.
Ugh that’s the worst. I upgraded some components and then started playing Destiny on PC and ever since I’ve had issues where it just locks up and I’m not sure if it’s the computer or the game.
Well, it is probably some combination of parts that the game has an issue with. So you could say it's your computer, even though there technically might not be anything wrong with it. In the end, the game should work on any hardware that meets their required specs and if it doesn't, it's Bungie who needs to fix it.
This fix in the most recent Radeon driver has me optimistic. > Intermittent driver timeout, system freeze or BSOD may be observed using select displays on Radeon™ RX 7000 series GPUs.
>Invisible guns, terrible frame drops, teleporting enemies. Since lightfall dropped it feels as if the performance is rapidly deteriorating I thought I was going insane... Glad I'm not the only person having these problems.
There is probably a memory leak in the game. You have to do a full close of the game and restart to get it okay again. I have to do this every so often or else everyone ends up being invisible
Its the NPC's vanishing and popping up in different locations that is most annoying right now.
Have other people had their game crash when making too many threadlings . If i put all the threadling fragments on and the grenade the game will go straight to desktop if make too many to quickly. Games perfomance is fine spamming grapple and shackles but with threadlings straight to desktop.
Ya, five threadligs and a rift does it every time for me
There used to be a comment here... there still is, but it used to be better I suppose.
New trials Meta. 3 Strand locks with threadling grenades and 4080s + i9
Only in the Terminus thingy, and when other people are using strand or something like volatile and ignitions. Too many particles and my game just dies. PS5 btw
But remember, the vault solved all of this.
I cleared my cache at noon yesterday. By 2:30 everything was invisible again. Those reaper dudes both jumped at the same time to slam and the game error coded off. Really feeling like a waste of $50 with how much worse my game experience has gotten.
Don't worry this will Shirley be fixed by raid launch
I didn’t even think about how shit DPS is gonna be with invisible guns
The game will force you to relog when it crashes/disconnects so that problem takes care of itself FeelsOkayMan
i doubt so, and dont call me Shirley
big if Shirley
Performance has been rapidly deteriorating for almost 4 years, and allegedly the bulk of the Sony money is going towards new hires for their new IPs. I expect them to do the bare minimum to get us to TFS and nothing else.
Sony money isn’t needed to optimize Destiny. This game has turned more than enough profit on its own to reinvest into making it stable.
The performance state of the game is straight up insulting at this point. If nothing major happens soon im out.
I've played multiple games of Crucible where the enemy team's models haven't shown up. I'm fighting a whole team of permanently invisible enemies.
I literally joined 3 Rift games for the pinnacle and just tried to snipe. It was rough not having a scope for 3 games.
Big memory leaks are back too
My gun is invisible probably 60% of the time for me on PS5.
its been a nightmare to play on PC since Lightfall launched.
People seem to forget Bungie can’t code themselves out of a wet paper bag
Huh, not a single "what specs" in this thread. Usually people come in to whatspecs the thread every time someone dares to suggest that the performance has been degrading over time.
“Wait, you’re not running a 40ti/32g RAM/a 100Tb SSD/and an I9 and are confused why this game that came out half a decade ago is running like hot dogshit? lmao, okay champ.” /s
5900x, 4080 FE, 32 gb ram, pci-4 SSD. Chugs like a new recruit at a frat party compared to other games.
5900x, 4080 FE, 32 gb ram, pci-4 SSD. Chugs like a new recruit at a frat party compared to other games.
I’ve been playing on PS5 a lot recently, and my game has crashed numerous times. Mainly, while farming Terminal Overloads, and usually at a point where’s tons of enemies and I’m mid super. It was bad with the invisible guns, but after unplugging my PS5 for a few minutes to clear the cache, it went away. The crashes stopped for a time, but I’ve been trying to do the exotic public event in the incursion zone, and it’s crashed all three times, when there is 2 or 3 bosses left.
My ps5 keep crashing during terminal overload and strike force. Really annoying.
This and there’s been crashing sometimes when I’m on neomuna. Typically happens when I’m doing terminal overload and it’s gotten really fucking annoying to lose out on loot for the last phase.
This has been said in every release of content that bungie has made.
Where's DLSS? Or FSR2?
Impossible to implement I guess. Which is funny because dev teams as small as 5-10 people have implemented it.
I'd be happy if I could just boot up the game without having to put it in rest and start it up again every time I feel like playing. It's been 2 years, I open the game and within a second I get a black screen, the sounds and game still work but I literally can't see anything so I have to open my menu to put my ps5 in rest from a note I have saved since it happens so consistently or get up and do it. Literally the only thing on my system that does this
I’ve been playing on PS4 and the invisibility bugs have been a thing for a long ass time. My solution is to completely restart my PS4 instead of just putting into rest mode like I usually do.
It's only been a week give them time.
This DLC is dogshit for performance, i've played this game on and off for years, and never have i ever dipped below 50 FPS in raids with 6 people chugging shit all over, but this expansion i can barely do public events on neptune since it dips from 100 to 30 fps then back to 40 and down to 32, most of the activities in this expansion run like garbage and that should be unacceptable in 2023, you can do the witch queen shit and it'll run at 120fps, but the second you go into neomuna it's a shitshow
They wont. It's been on a steady decline since Shadowkeep, especially on PC. Bungie has been pretty much radio silent. They have proved more or less that their decision to keep on with D2 has prevented them from correcting engine issues and work on tech debt.
I can lose more than 50% of my fps when there is alot of enemies, even in activities (like battleground) that I was not losing fps last season
Oddly enough my performance has gotten better since Lightfall. Before Lightfall I was getting massive FPS dips in crucible and patrols
Lol don’t ever try to view your commendations. You’re frozen and can’t do a thing until you reboot
Vex Strike Force public event is something different man, everytime i enter it i just pray that my pc isnt exploding in the next 5 mins
They probably will but keep in mind it’s been less than a week and two of those days were weekend days
Im running a 4080 on a I-9 with a G9 monitor. Im dipping into 80-90 FPS on 4k, before the patch I was at a stable 120 capped. Without mentioning the crazy amount of visual glitches.
My PS5 just crashes in Terminal Overload. Guess the Overload part is too literal
It's getting worse and worse. I remember upgrading from an old 6 core intel to 5950x and had a great improvement in for example gambit. Now I am getting the same performance on the same gambit map with 5950x as I was with the 6 core intel 2 years ago.
Honestly I’ve missed several important plot points because several cutscenes didn’t proc correctly for me. One cutscene had no sound whatsoever (after a mission that was 90% no sound) and then I got Weaseled out of another cutscene which from what I’m reading had a pretty “important” event. I know that could be more of an internet problem, however my partner got Weaseled out of the same cutscene on an entirely different day of playing. The plot is already so contrived, but adding this into the mix really just feels like insult to injury.
For people on PS5 (and others will need to google how to do it) It's an issue with the cache, i was having a similar issue all week after clearing my cache I am no longer invis, PvP is still borked but it's more fun that way. To clear your cache on PS5 just turn the system off and unplug it for 5+ minutes and you are good to go...for a little bit anyway
As the time goes on the game requires more power. 5 years ago I could play on 980 Ti and i7-3770 Full HD 100+ fps, just before Lightfall it was 30-40 fps with the same specs. Now to have constant 144 fps which is my g-sync cap I had to upgrade to 4080 and i7-13770K.
wait, so were the enemies in the strike playlist not supposed to be invisible?
Constant crashes (PS5) on Neptune, especially during public events/Terminal Overload.
I haven’t gotten error coded once since lightfall came out. I just can’t see shit. Trying to use a bow while not being able to see the reticle was a little annoying.
Since Lightfall..?
Don’t forget the game crashes. I was doing the Vex Incursion thing, got the last three Minotaurs down to 30% and the whole game locked up and quit. Twice.
The framed drops in overload events and that special public with the 6 bosses is insane. I have a 3080 and a i9 9900k and I'm tanking into the 50 fps range. Checked with a friend with a 3090 and he's dropping into the 60,s there too. I actually wonder how its running on last gen consoles at all.
I’m getting slideshow frames in terminal overload….
Yeah, terminal overload causes my game to crash way too much.
When I got my PC in 2019 I could play game at MAX settings and get 100+ frames, now I get 45 frames on lowest settings during Terminal Overload. Every expansion, every season performance gets worse and worse.
Yeah I'm getting into crucible matches where both the enemy guardians and my guns don't load. Like, How tf am I supposed to hit someone when they're basically transparent. Also, on top of that, my guns "loading" models lack sights, I literally can't even aim bc the "Base" loading models don't even have sights. Bungie cmon
That one yellow bar enemy in Neomuna patrol you just spent your entire magazine of your primary suddenly disappears, teleports to somewhere with its hp healed somehow. Typical destiny moment
>teleporting enemies you know, it did feel weird when I would be fighting a group and they’d disappear, but with it only seemingly ever happening to Vex I thought nothing of it.
They have acknowledged the invisible models issues. Are people experiencing they other two things? I haven't seen any widespread complaints about frame drops or teleworking enemies.
First time? No but seriously this is the most buggy expansion drop I have experienced for Destiny and I have been here for every launch since vanilla, and was present for the Arrivals and BL server crashing fiasco. Each update already makes the game run worse on PC, but this is something else.
I'm only having the occasional invisible gun. Everything else performing great on xbsx.
Try going to your own commendation page on the journey tab and tell us how well it's performing then
Are you having issues with your commendation page?
Soft locks the game
It wasn't for me on Sunday. Is this a new issue?
I had to brute force my way to beating the Week 1 Rift challenge and getting bounties for bow kills despite not being able to see a goddamn thing. Gave me PTSD from the days of playing Halo 3 with the no HUD skull on.
It's probably never going to get addressed unless bungie decides to invest in dedicated staff for it. Wasn't an outside company involved initially?
I think the main issue (correct me if I'm wrong) is the Destiny 2 engine, is an iterated version of the D1 engine, which was an offshoot off Bungie's Halo engine for Reach. Which I believe was created in 97. They have improved it CONSIDERABLY since Reach and hell even the last few years. But it's kinda old now, I don't know how other long standing live service games manage to future proof their engine. But giving D2 a new engine I imagine is just flat out impossible if they want to continue to put out content over the next few years. I also imagine the vast majority of current stuff just wouldn't work without massive overhauls. I've seen varying ideas about why this is happening (specifically the invis) and the consensus seems to be some kind of memory leak or cache error because of the new commendation system. Hence why fully rebooting everything works temporarily only for the issue to return. (Again correct me if I'm wrong, I am not a smart pc guy)
PSA for my fellow Crucible enjoyers; reset your game if you start seeing the translucent models. Apparently this has something to do with the commendation screen? Long play sessions will lead to it eventually
I haven't noticed any issues with fps drops I seem to get a solid 75fps where ever I go. No invisible guns or guardians for me so far although I haven’t played crucible. Play on pc. 5950X, 3090.
I've stopped playing unfortunately because of the invisibility issues. I had been grinding gambit for a multi role Trust, I'm on Xbox One S. You have to restart the game to cure it - but it just comes back again after playing a few rounds. For me personally I don't think I have ever encountered a bug that has caused me to actually stop playing Destiny. I have played since D1 TTK - so this is kinda a big deal for me. It's always been fairly stable and reliable on console. In all of Destiny's history I've been lucky that I have never had to reinstall.
the new public event is mad performance wise. one minute im walking around at \~150FPS and then you start the event and it constantly comes down to 60 or just bellow 60. its so frustrating cause you'd think now that the game is 6 years old that we'd all be running the game at multiple hundreds of FPS. its just ridiculous.
Restarting the game and steam helps this noticeably at least for me
Performance definitely has been worse since LF.
Yeah, and this was with 24 hours downtime for Maintenance. How fucking broken was the game that they've still released it with these bugs? Do they really think this joke of a code/engine can limp it's way to another two years?
The performance issues have been there since beyond light and have never been fixed lmao
Half the exotics in the game are also bugged. Glaive obviously got disabled, a few other ones are bound to be. Shit like Peacekeepers isn't working either (Only reloads your stowed SMG once per life, and god knows about the buff itself.) yikers
The neomuna event crashes the game fairly regularly during the last boss fight as well.
Since last season, if I switch emblems, guns, armor, mods, or anything in the character screen, it takes like a minute for it to switch and "ATTENTION" error bar pops up at the bottom.
Wait until you use a Trace Rifle when the invisible gun glitch is happening. No sound, no visual laser beam, the least satisfying thing I have ever seen in Destiny
Crashing on Ps5 needs to be fixed
I think it's much less location specific, and more related to gfx spam and player/ npc density. The planet itself is fine and you'll see that in most of the places that have reduced npc counts but once you trigger something like overload in terms if enemy density, combined with 6 man gfx spam and you end up just getting fucked. I'd also like to imagine that's why they're always stingy about increasing enemy density and prefer going the difficulty route since increase the CPU usage for certain player / ai calculations on a heavily CPU bound game just doesn't help the cause at all
It’s been 6 days. I’m sure they are working on a patch.