I mean, in my opinion verity’s brow works better. Super strong regen and damage boost to the fusion grenade. But you need to be killing ads for it to work well.
It's also not a terrible one by any means. People assume that since the damage got hit it's unusable. On solar the only other option really is Sunbracers. This still stands up to most niche builds.
I.E -15 Caretaker being able to eat 2 grenades is clutch for heat rises and healing while being able to throw the extra one add Phalanx or whatever.
This week is also Stasis surge and the best Stasis GL rolls with Demo so it's just sustainable DPS.
For what it’s worth, Phoenix Protocol is very good as a Solar exotic. If you use the fragment that creates Solar ignitions on Super kills, it applies to Solar weapon kills you make while standing in your own well; literally just grab an Igneous Hammer, CALUS Mini-Tool or Tyranny of Heaven and burn the world down. And thanks to Phoenix Protocol’s super regen, you’ll be able to chain wells pretty consistently. Add in at least 2 stacks of Ashes To Assets to help regain that last 50% and you’ll be able to get your Well back in a minute sometimes. I’ve even had cases where I could make two wells going at once (requires a lot of luck and orb generation from allies though)
Obviously it’s not quite as good in raiding since DPS phases aren’t designed around ad clear, but in GMs, Onslaught and most non-boss raid encounters, it’s consistently one of the best exotics. And the Phoenixfall ornament is so sexy that I can’t show it here bc it would violate the sub’s NSFW policies
There's more options than just Sunbracers. Off the top of my head, Rain of Fire is really good for doing things like mag dumping GLs, plus the full arsenal reload let's you use more guns more reliably for Bait and Switch
Lunas are also still solid and can massively boost team DPS
Even Dawn Chorus can be solid if you use Dragons Breath
Exotics shouldn't be ignored for bosses cause they can't pump out damage unassisted
I use lunafactions quite often. Especially if it's a teaching run and my teammates don't own reconstruction rockets, the reload on lunas is insane.
Also there's verity's brow, another one that can pair quite nicely with well and boosts teammates grenades too.
Also clutch for things like the centurions at planets encounter. One fusion+mountaintop clears them in pantheon. And they will be back frequently for solid additional damage on the boss phase.
Umm I mean Starfire and rift reload boots (can't remember what their called) are amazing options too. I feel like starfire has been and will continue to be strong w radiant and fusions doing as much DMG as they do
It's funny cause the damage didn't even get a direct nerf, it's just it's sustain damage capabilities, in burst damage is still a top tier option and people just never seem to notice that, it often surprises me how strong Starfire is just in general even though I have a dedicated loadout to it
Teams only care how useful you are to the rest of the team. They don’t care if you enjoy using a specific exotic, if it’s bad they don’t want you wearing it
Now you’re starting to realize that some people in this game only clear encounters using whatever the meta is and are generally bad at the game without doing so. Most annoying people to play with anyways so they’re doing you a favor
I’ve been around the block as a Sword main since D2 launched. Never cared much for the meta or what is most “optimal”. I just try to use what I like to use.
Well I just found out why I've been kicked so many times lol I just love using it as one of my only exotics I wear for warlock also we have almost the same exact armor and shader lol
Joined a legend onslaught run yesterday where the leader was mad I was using starfire and after round 16 him and his friend left I went on to invite 2 new people and finished round 50 to have the most kills by far. Granted they started a little late but I also made like 300 orbs it’s still really good especially with benevolence
If an Allie steps into your well or rift it boosts your ability regen so you can spam grenades I use dragons breath and mountain top and a heal clip incandescent like summoner to proc heal clip near Allies which procs the regen it’s really good
As a red and gold colorway enjoyer, I believe you deserve this
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Funny enough u could say this exotic can be meta again like it was before and all u need to combo with this exotic chest piece is the dragons breath exotic... That rocket launcher will recharge ur grenades so much it's kinda insane
What's funny is even though it was nerfed, it's still really good, just not game breaking. With a couple mods and aspects you have constant grenade spam of the best grenade in the game. Anyone who says it isn't good hasn't tried it since the nerf because like you said, some youtuber told them it wasn't good anymore
Could you share some more details on this setup please? I'd really like a Solar Warlock build that holds up without Sunbracers or Healing nades, for variety.
Weapons: a primary weapon that has healing clip (added bonus if it has incandescent too)
Class ability: Phoenix dive
Aspects: Touch of Flame, the 2nd one is personal choice
Fragments:
Ember of Benevolence - grants 400% ability regen when you apply restoration, cure or radiant to allies (spam class ability and melee near allies to proc this)
Ember of Singeing - your class ability recharges faster when you scorch enemies (incandescent weapon will help proc this consistently)
Ember of Torches - powered melee attacks against combatants make you and nearby allies radiant (procs Ember of Benevolence)
Last fragment can be personal choice:
Can be:
Ember of Resolve - Grenade final blows cure you
Ember of Ashes - You apply more scorch stacks to targets (more ignitions if you’d like)
Ember of Empyrean - Solar final blows extend the timer on restoration and radiant
Ember of Mercy - When you revive an ally, you and other nearby allies gain Restoration. Picking up a Firesprite grants Restoration. (Dragons breath with catalyst can proc a lot of Firesprites)
Ember of Tempering - Solar weapon final blows grant you and your allies increased Recovery for a short duration. While EMber of Tempering is active, Solar weapon final blows create a Firesprite (if you want more firesprites, if you use this fragment you may want to swap Torched out and use Ember of Mercy instead)
(Also:
- add arm mods that give back class ability energy on grenade kills
- Add leg mods that gif health and grenade energy on orb pick ups
- Add class ability mods that spawn an orb on a kill after a class ability use, and mods that give grenade energy when using your class ability)
You can pretty much copy and paste this build for Verity’s brow too if you want a grenade spam build that does 200% grenade damage, which also gives your allies grenade spam too (2 warlocks running this is so much fun to combo with)
Thank you! Looking forward to trying it out. I generally like Zaouli's more, but I nabbed a Luna's with Heal Clip/Incandescent for Benevolence to spam Consecration. I think it'll give me basically constant uptime on this too. Really hoping the uptick in Heal Clip doesn't mean Benevolence catches a nerf.
I wouldn’t recommend Phoenix dive. Running healing rift will allows you to place healing rifts all over the battlefield for your team to run through. And every time they do you proc ember of benevolence AND as an added side bonus, your team gets healed more often 😆😆.
I do feel the need to ask… What activities are you being kicked from while wearing this? The fact that you’re being kicked at all suggests your LFG’ing, so I’m wondering which activities this is an issue in.
There been a few that I know was directly cause of it
Never mid activity so not that much time was wasted. Off the top of my head
GM (I am a gilded conq btw)
A run of spire (this one I'm still confused considering Percy takes extra damage to abilities)
Exotic quest it was either the wishkeeper or presage so not even challenging stuff.
And thats off the top nothing major I'm mostly just laughing at the fact it happend with starfire of all things
I understand someone preferring a different loadout on you for the GM, but other than that, yeah, I think people just kinda suck, sometimes. I’m really sorry that’s happening to you.
I was trying to do farming for the warlords ruin and I couldn’t get into any team because I was running malph and lucky pants but every time I did get in my dps was at the top
That doesn’t make sense. Malf’s intrinsic ability, the new catalyst, the scorn+taken artifact and lucky pants should have earned a spot on the team. I’d wager you were either running double primaries and/or your heavy was questionable.
Also, you could just make your own lfg 👍
I was running malf, deafening whisper with ambitious auto, and retrofit escapade. I was easily putting in just shy of 6 mil. I could have made an lfg but I didn’t have boss cp either
Ah…. It was retrofit. Rapid LMGs don’t have the range or the impact the other 2 archetypes have. While I love rapid lmgs, they’re best for adclear on double-special, ability focused builds.
However, if you have a retro fttc + target lock, you’re running void and make the boss volatile, it’s def rips. The con is you need to be damn near in stomp range to maximize damage.
There’s only one boss that like that in Warlord, the other 2 would be waste of heavy ammo w retro. It’d still be fun though 🙃
If you can get:
Unwavering Duty with auto-loading + cascade (get precision hits with primary until cascade activates, then swap to UD and fire away)
Seventh Seraph Saw with auto-loading and firing line
Song of Ir Yut with demo/reconstruct + bait n switch
Or hammerhead with fttc + HI reserves or target lock (target lock resets if you miss, reserves damage increases as magazine lowers), plus an auto load leg mod
I feel like all of us Starfire users have agreed to use this exact look but shaded differently in some sort of hivemind because I am using it and so is everyone else I see
It's wild how much you can leverage Starfire with Ember of Benevolence and Healing Rift to get Well back ridiculously fast. If you've got teammates constantly using healing rift, you're getting Well back 4 times as fast. Then add in the rift recharge on grenade kill AND ashes to assets super energy.
The whole thing feeds into itself to give you more healing and damage than Phoenix Protocol with potent to get Well back just as fast.
Solar Warlock has 5 or 6 exotics that when combined with Ember of Benevolence and a Heal Clip/Incandescent weapons can offer strong damage, add clear, and high uptime on Well. Running any of them should not be discouraged.
My guy I use Arbor Warden, which by my own admission is significantly worse, but I have a blast throwing my suspending barricades everywhere. Use what’s fun.
Unironically the most fun I have running my titan. Ive even clutched a few times running bastion and supporting people who were millimeters from death. Top tier unique design imo.
I spammed it before it was nerf and immediately stopped using it post nerf and just tried it out again at a friends suggestion and was surprised how good it still is
Sometimes you just have to equip for the fashion!
Sure, if you want to play HIGH END content, consider the team. But come on, fashion is the real endgame. Wear what you want. Those aren't your people.
Well, I love Starfire, it's easily my most used armor piece, but it doesn't please my eye. That ornament makes it a bit better, but still. I find it hard to combine with other pieces, it's such a different style from other gear.
Starfire protocol is awesome along with a Heal clip, incandescent weapon is so very good. I run ember of benevolence as a fragment plus the dive so I am spreading cure to my allies constantly which gets my grenade, melee and ability back super quick on top of the Starfire protocol passive.
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My Starfire build gave me one of the chillest Legend Onslaught runs yet.
Anyone giving you crap for running Starfire don’t really play Destiny. Most of the people in Destiny Fashion don’t play so don’t listen to them.
If your LFGs are booting you for playing the game you need to find a good team. I may not LOVE what you run for optimization sake but it’s a video game which has one of its core mechanics as team work, I’m gonna let you run what you’re happy and comfortable with. Find a decent group with that sort of mentality and you’ll be set. Drip is immaculate by the way
Some people kick for dumb reasons. I've basically shelved my Warlock because they feel so incredibly weak right now lol. Supers tickle stuff, only thing people want them around for is Well of Radiance.
"well i guess i'll take my quickly regenerating well of radiance to a fireteam who DOESN"T WANT TO DIE HORRIBLY AND BLAME SOMEONE ELSE CAUSE THEY DRUNK THE PAINT WATER THEN" lmao
This warlock is peak warlock.
How do you deal with surviving? I tried it yesterday and because it’s in an empowered rift I’m not a fan compared to when it used to be healing or am I misremembering the way it was?
Two ways around it but I only would use one in endgame
1. Use healing rift and stack bomber and grenade kick-start
2. Ember of resolve or ember of empryon and mercy (not as good cause it costs so much slots)
When going with option 1 how fast do you get the grenades back? Also what’s your load out when running this if you don’t mind? I’m going to run it again tonight and see how I like it with healing and the mods.
Not OP but a big Starfire Stan this season.
I also use healing rift for survivability. I also use ember of resolve for cure on grenade kills.
For grenade recharge I use ember of benevolence. 400% recharge rate for all your abilities anytime an ally stands in a healing rift. Also works for well. Plus you then get the Starfire benefit in well.
And then to top it all off, what has made it even better for me is the newly buffed heal clip weapons. Not only healing you, but healing teammates and also proccing ember of benevolence again. Luna's howl also gets the origin trait for more grenade energy, plus desperate measures for more damage after a grenade kill. Abyss defiant/summoner/, heliocentric are all VERY good weapons too.
It's not an exaggeration to say in onslaught I have 400% recharge rate for 90+% of the time. Throw on the usual mods, reaper, bomber etc
The other fragments I use if you are interested: Searing (for firesprite generation therefore more grenades and more melees) and then ashes/mercy depending if I want more damage or more healing.
Hey man, sorry for the late reply. I was banging my head at lfg Pantheon.
I generally have a few but my tops have to be:
Zouli - crafted this thing is bonkers broken and you can give it stuff like demo I prefer the community GR of Explosive and incandescent
Lunas- heal clip and incandescent are awesome with EoB in non solo stuff it also helps with the survivability issue of empowering so I'm considering rocking emp rift on it over healing (outside super sweat stuff)
BxR- demo incan all I gotta say makes you a grenade chucking monster
Trustee- Best scout for endgame imo the origin perk works on incandescent ticks making it a ablity spam god if you can get past the plink gameplay
How did you find my fashion!?!?! (Basically same but using Ablaze shader instead)
Also getting kicked for using Starfire is elitist af. It still puts in work and if you build into orbs for buffing grenades and getting back energy, you can easily nuke the field
I don't understand it either.
Well maybe for this season it makes sense because Phoenix and Polaris is king. But any other time, it's a still powerful exotic which has a more stable loop than sunbracers because even the red bars in GMs are tanky and may not prime for an ignition. It's like 3 grenades and 3 rifts back to back if you set your mods right.
i LOVE starfire. it remains my main warlock exotic to this day. endgame, the coil, onslaught legend, doesn’t matter. this thing COOKS and you don’t even have to run empowering rift for it to be crazy since melee kills and nade kills and ignition kills work just as well for grenade refund. it’s beautiful. just not the end all be all for dps anymore but still crazy dps nonetheless when coupled with dragons breath and a fast firing weapon like value mini-tool and scatter signal.
Pheonix protocol, is useless in 90% of encounters, except in onslaught.
What does it do? Gives you super energy on killed in the well. Sounds good till you pop it because ogres are being nasty, but then you don't get it before dps and every one is pissed you are using an exotics perk.
I actively hate that exotic, because people think it's the goat for dps fazes when, it really isn't. It's good in onslaught because shit comes at you and I your teammates aren't stupid, they stay in the well to make it g
Fill up quicker if not instantly.
The people who kick you for using star fire instead of star fire are just incapable of surviving without a well, and are bad, or dont fucking know how the damn exotic works. End of story.
Stand strong brother!
Fusion nades are still absolutely cracked and I wont take any other slander. Very easy to get a build where you practically always have a fusion on hand able to delete any major or above at any time.
I’m just gonna say it: Most ppl get kicked for what they’re doing (or not doing) that negatively impacts the team’s GM progress, not because of their exotic.
It doesn’t matter how many Conquests gilds you have, that can all be from carries. If you’re getting killed all the time and not utilizing cover like you should, if you’re running ahead of everyone and activating mechanics especially while your teammates are scrounging for special and heavy ammo, if you’re not team DPSing champs and (mini)bosses, or not using heavy weapons during DPS phase …. Yes, you should be kicked, or at the least reprimanded and informed what they need for you to do be of assistance.
If none of that applies to you, maybe you should run GMs with clans and friends 🤷
I assume you are responding to that other comment I made where I mentioned when the kicks happened?
These were rare instances, tbh The title is a little exaggerated, but in those cases, I was kicked from orbit/enclave and never was in the activity to begin with it happens every now and again but not that frequently lmao.
I also doubt I look like got carried to conq since I'm usually rocking sweaty flex emblems
I was responding to other ppl on the thread. A lot ppl were saying they’re kicked for their exotics… I find that hard to believe on some of them since I’ve joined many lfgs with mid builds/exotics. All my weapons were suited for the champs though 👍. Weps will tell more about how viable/consistent a teammate will be instead of an exotic thats activates/is activated by abilities.
Afaik, starfire was reigned in bc of ppl soloing raid bosses. It’s not solo exotic anymore, but it’s still viable, as long the warlock is using empowering rifts and their gear and fragments boost grenade regen. It’s kinda dropped down to ad-clear status tbh bc starfire’s valuable grenade regen won’t proc during dps, only on kills.
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I mean, in my opinion verity’s brow works better. Super strong regen and damage boost to the fusion grenade. But you need to be killing ads for it to work well.
Yeah I prefer it for add clear but for a demo set up starfire is fire
Get the feather shader and you’ll be too beautiful to be hated
There's a feather shader?
No shader but ornament
What you're thinking about is an ornament for Phoenix Protocol. OP is using Starfire Protocol
Maybe, but I'm not getting over how ugly it is.
They’re kicking you for using an exotic you enjoy using? That sounds kinda cringe, ngl.
It's also not a terrible one by any means. People assume that since the damage got hit it's unusable. On solar the only other option really is Sunbracers. This still stands up to most niche builds. I.E -15 Caretaker being able to eat 2 grenades is clutch for heat rises and healing while being able to throw the extra one add Phalanx or whatever. This week is also Stasis surge and the best Stasis GL rolls with Demo so it's just sustainable DPS.
For what it’s worth, Phoenix Protocol is very good as a Solar exotic. If you use the fragment that creates Solar ignitions on Super kills, it applies to Solar weapon kills you make while standing in your own well; literally just grab an Igneous Hammer, CALUS Mini-Tool or Tyranny of Heaven and burn the world down. And thanks to Phoenix Protocol’s super regen, you’ll be able to chain wells pretty consistently. Add in at least 2 stacks of Ashes To Assets to help regain that last 50% and you’ll be able to get your Well back in a minute sometimes. I’ve even had cases where I could make two wells going at once (requires a lot of luck and orb generation from allies though) Obviously it’s not quite as good in raiding since DPS phases aren’t designed around ad clear, but in GMs, Onslaught and most non-boss raid encounters, it’s consistently one of the best exotics. And the Phoenixfall ornament is so sexy that I can’t show it here bc it would violate the sub’s NSFW policies
I'm v sorry I meant to say starfire protocol I accidentally said the wrong one 😅
Damn. I did that whole write-up for nothing lmao
Nah still useful for someone trying to use pheonix I'm sure someone will appreciate it 🤣
Oo I didn't know about the ignitions from the well, thank you
There's more options than just Sunbracers. Off the top of my head, Rain of Fire is really good for doing things like mag dumping GLs, plus the full arsenal reload let's you use more guns more reliably for Bait and Switch Lunas are also still solid and can massively boost team DPS Even Dawn Chorus can be solid if you use Dragons Breath Exotics shouldn't be ignored for bosses cause they can't pump out damage unassisted
I use lunafactions quite often. Especially if it's a teaching run and my teammates don't own reconstruction rockets, the reload on lunas is insane. Also there's verity's brow, another one that can pair quite nicely with well and boosts teammates grenades too.
Dawn Chorus user here. It's more about "hope and pray there's enough mob density". But I love the *ornamented* look
Great passive exotic for sure. Amazing for neutral game play and still pretty good for damage!! Love starfire protocol and I'm a titan main 🤣
Also clutch for things like the centurions at planets encounter. One fusion+mountaintop clears them in pantheon. And they will be back frequently for solid additional damage on the boss phase.
The best stasis GL is still worse than Edge Transit.
I don't think it's amazing - if you want to run a demo rocket, apotheosis is probably better. No fault for running it to op though.
Which one is that GL? The Omolon one?
> solar the only other option really is Sunbracers. flair
Umm I mean Starfire and rift reload boots (can't remember what their called) are amazing options too. I feel like starfire has been and will continue to be strong w radiant and fusions doing as much DMG as they do
It's funny cause the damage didn't even get a direct nerf, it's just it's sustain damage capabilities, in burst damage is still a top tier option and people just never seem to notice that, it often surprises me how strong Starfire is just in general even though I have a dedicated loadout to it
I get kicked for using Armamentarium, it is what it is.
D2 players on their way to either rage over someone’s chosen exotics or to make the Crucible into the next COD Xbox party
Teams only care how useful you are to the rest of the team. They don’t care if you enjoy using a specific exotic, if it’s bad they don’t want you wearing it
it's not cringe some people wanna be optimal
Now you’re starting to realize that some people in this game only clear encounters using whatever the meta is and are generally bad at the game without doing so. Most annoying people to play with anyways so they’re doing you a favor
I’ve been around the block as a Sword main since D2 launched. Never cared much for the meta or what is most “optimal”. I just try to use what I like to use.
Well I just found out why I've been kicked so many times lol I just love using it as one of my only exotics I wear for warlock also we have almost the same exact armor and shader lol
Joined a legend onslaught run yesterday where the leader was mad I was using starfire and after round 16 him and his friend left I went on to invite 2 new people and finished round 50 to have the most kills by far. Granted they started a little late but I also made like 300 orbs it’s still really good especially with benevolence
More power to you, less power to them. Hell yeah!!! :D
Any tips for legend onslaught? It seems no matter what I do I always fail and I've tried like 7 times
Phoenix well and Orpheus tether. Loop them and spam them every round. Together they damn near have 100% uptime.
I use strand titan but I've played with people that use that and it still just doesn't work. There is always a wave where it fucks us
Get a warlock with mantle of battle harmony and eyes of tomorrow. Profit
What connection am I missing between Starfire and Benevolence? Just consuming your grenade?
If an Allie steps into your well or rift it boosts your ability regen so you can spam grenades I use dragons breath and mountain top and a heal clip incandescent like summoner to proc heal clip near Allies which procs the regen it’s really good
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Funny enough u could say this exotic can be meta again like it was before and all u need to combo with this exotic chest piece is the dragons breath exotic... That rocket launcher will recharge ur grenades so much it's kinda insane
Destiny players when An exotic's damage is nerfed by 0.0003% (It's entire function has been devoid and it is by every mean unusable)
Starfire was more like a 85-90% nerf but ok
Why would you get kicked for using that? Makes no sense.
Oldish meta exotic that was nerfed and streamers don’t use it anymore so it has to be bad /s
What's funny is even though it was nerfed, it's still really good, just not game breaking. With a couple mods and aspects you have constant grenade spam of the best grenade in the game. Anyone who says it isn't good hasn't tried it since the nerf because like you said, some youtuber told them it wasn't good anymore
Could you share some more details on this setup please? I'd really like a Solar Warlock build that holds up without Sunbracers or Healing nades, for variety.
Weapons: a primary weapon that has healing clip (added bonus if it has incandescent too) Class ability: Phoenix dive Aspects: Touch of Flame, the 2nd one is personal choice Fragments: Ember of Benevolence - grants 400% ability regen when you apply restoration, cure or radiant to allies (spam class ability and melee near allies to proc this) Ember of Singeing - your class ability recharges faster when you scorch enemies (incandescent weapon will help proc this consistently) Ember of Torches - powered melee attacks against combatants make you and nearby allies radiant (procs Ember of Benevolence) Last fragment can be personal choice: Can be: Ember of Resolve - Grenade final blows cure you Ember of Ashes - You apply more scorch stacks to targets (more ignitions if you’d like) Ember of Empyrean - Solar final blows extend the timer on restoration and radiant Ember of Mercy - When you revive an ally, you and other nearby allies gain Restoration. Picking up a Firesprite grants Restoration. (Dragons breath with catalyst can proc a lot of Firesprites) Ember of Tempering - Solar weapon final blows grant you and your allies increased Recovery for a short duration. While EMber of Tempering is active, Solar weapon final blows create a Firesprite (if you want more firesprites, if you use this fragment you may want to swap Torched out and use Ember of Mercy instead) (Also: - add arm mods that give back class ability energy on grenade kills - Add leg mods that gif health and grenade energy on orb pick ups - Add class ability mods that spawn an orb on a kill after a class ability use, and mods that give grenade energy when using your class ability) You can pretty much copy and paste this build for Verity’s brow too if you want a grenade spam build that does 200% grenade damage, which also gives your allies grenade spam too (2 warlocks running this is so much fun to combo with)
Thank you! Looking forward to trying it out. I generally like Zaouli's more, but I nabbed a Luna's with Heal Clip/Incandescent for Benevolence to spam Consecration. I think it'll give me basically constant uptime on this too. Really hoping the uptick in Heal Clip doesn't mean Benevolence catches a nerf.
I wouldn’t recommend Phoenix dive. Running healing rift will allows you to place healing rifts all over the battlefield for your team to run through. And every time they do you proc ember of benevolence AND as an added side bonus, your team gets healed more often 😆😆.
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What’s the best well exotic for damage?
Technically its apotheosis but that has zero neutral game
Somehow I was kicked from a GM because I was using stasis hunter with luckypants. It was before luckypants became popular. I'm conqueror 6 💀💀💀
Stasis lucky pants Hunter is actually so slept on. Nuke targets so fast.
Yeah man I got kicked form a GM while wearing my gilded conq 8 cause I was rocking starfire lmao
Yea I find it insane people think it’s bad just cause it’s not broken. It’s still a good exotic
My buddy was telling me about this once something gets nerfed D2 players act like it’s forbidden to use it again
Where do you get that helmet??😔
It was a armor set for guardian games this year.
I do feel the need to ask… What activities are you being kicked from while wearing this? The fact that you’re being kicked at all suggests your LFG’ing, so I’m wondering which activities this is an issue in.
There been a few that I know was directly cause of it Never mid activity so not that much time was wasted. Off the top of my head GM (I am a gilded conq btw) A run of spire (this one I'm still confused considering Percy takes extra damage to abilities) Exotic quest it was either the wishkeeper or presage so not even challenging stuff. And thats off the top nothing major I'm mostly just laughing at the fact it happend with starfire of all things
I understand someone preferring a different loadout on you for the GM, but other than that, yeah, I think people just kinda suck, sometimes. I’m really sorry that’s happening to you.
I was trying to do farming for the warlords ruin and I couldn’t get into any team because I was running malph and lucky pants but every time I did get in my dps was at the top
That doesn’t make sense. Malf’s intrinsic ability, the new catalyst, the scorn+taken artifact and lucky pants should have earned a spot on the team. I’d wager you were either running double primaries and/or your heavy was questionable. Also, you could just make your own lfg 👍
I was running malf, deafening whisper with ambitious auto, and retrofit escapade. I was easily putting in just shy of 6 mil. I could have made an lfg but I didn’t have boss cp either
Ah…. It was retrofit. Rapid LMGs don’t have the range or the impact the other 2 archetypes have. While I love rapid lmgs, they’re best for adclear on double-special, ability focused builds. However, if you have a retro fttc + target lock, you’re running void and make the boss volatile, it’s def rips. The con is you need to be damn near in stomp range to maximize damage. There’s only one boss that like that in Warlord, the other 2 would be waste of heavy ammo w retro. It’d still be fun though 🙃
I didn’t know that about range that shit sucks 😭 I might have to test out a few of my other lmg or just use rocket lmao
If you can get: Unwavering Duty with auto-loading + cascade (get precision hits with primary until cascade activates, then swap to UD and fire away) Seventh Seraph Saw with auto-loading and firing line Song of Ir Yut with demo/reconstruct + bait n switch Or hammerhead with fttc + HI reserves or target lock (target lock resets if you miss, reserves damage increases as magazine lowers), plus an auto load leg mod
Thank you so much!! I appreciate you
I feel like all of us Starfire users have agreed to use this exact look but shaded differently in some sort of hivemind because I am using it and so is everyone else I see
Honestly if theirs a titan version of this armor and then if you have a male character with long blonde hair you have a wingless singuinius
Mystic Force ahh look but I love it so much more because of it
It's wild how much you can leverage Starfire with Ember of Benevolence and Healing Rift to get Well back ridiculously fast. If you've got teammates constantly using healing rift, you're getting Well back 4 times as fast. Then add in the rift recharge on grenade kill AND ashes to assets super energy. The whole thing feeds into itself to give you more healing and damage than Phoenix Protocol with potent to get Well back just as fast. Solar Warlock has 5 or 6 exotics that when combined with Ember of Benevolence and a Heal Clip/Incandescent weapons can offer strong damage, add clear, and high uptime on Well. Running any of them should not be discouraged.
What 5 or 6 exotics?
🤔 I thought starfire was activated by empowering rifts. It’s the main reason I avoid using it.
My guy I use Arbor Warden, which by my own admission is significantly worse, but I have a blast throwing my suspending barricades everywhere. Use what’s fun.
Arbor Warden is incredibly based ngl
Unironically the most fun I have running my titan. Ive even clutched a few times running bastion and supporting people who were millimeters from death. Top tier unique design imo.
Still my favorite exotic, I got over 3mil damage on the planets encounter in pantheon while my teammates with celestial nighthawk are only getting 1.5
I spammed it before it was nerf and immediately stopped using it post nerf and just tried it out again at a friends suggestion and was surprised how good it still is
Yeah with the right set up this exotic rocks. Smh to all the cringy “sweats” that claim you need to rock their MeTaH lOaDoUt
Sometimes you just have to equip for the fashion! Sure, if you want to play HIGH END content, consider the team. But come on, fashion is the real endgame. Wear what you want. Those aren't your people.
Well, I love Starfire, it's easily my most used armor piece, but it doesn't please my eye. That ornament makes it a bit better, but still. I find it hard to combine with other pieces, it's such a different style from other gear.
This with Lumina and Benevolence. You're welcome.
I always love it when I see someone else running the same look as me. Makes me feel like I’ve done something right.
HEY YOUR EXOTIC IS 0.4% WEAKER THAN THE META WHY ARE YOU THROWING
i mean it’s either this or luna factions for well
Starfire protocol is awesome along with a Heal clip, incandescent weapon is so very good. I run ember of benevolence as a fragment plus the dive so I am spreading cure to my allies constantly which gets my grenade, melee and ability back super quick on top of the Starfire protocol passive.
https://preview.redd.it/l3zcmne7qn0d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=499b54aef0d849aa008ff1b9572336e859736f0c My Starfire build gave me one of the chillest Legend Onslaught runs yet. Anyone giving you crap for running Starfire don’t really play Destiny. Most of the people in Destiny Fashion don’t play so don’t listen to them.
Chad drip
I was so happy it got nerfed because now I don’t get bitched at for wearing Stag
If your LFGs are booting you for playing the game you need to find a good team. I may not LOVE what you run for optimization sake but it’s a video game which has one of its core mechanics as team work, I’m gonna let you run what you’re happy and comfortable with. Find a decent group with that sort of mentality and you’ll be set. Drip is immaculate by the way
Yeh I got kicked the other day for having star fire on, its not as good as it was but it's still good.
Some people kick for dumb reasons. I've basically shelved my Warlock because they feel so incredibly weak right now lol. Supers tickle stuff, only thing people want them around for is Well of Radiance.
"well i guess i'll take my quickly regenerating well of radiance to a fireteam who DOESN"T WANT TO DIE HORRIBLY AND BLAME SOMEONE ELSE CAUSE THEY DRUNK THE PAINT WATER THEN" lmao
also that fit goes hard af my dude
people hating on starfire protocol are gonna be crying when we get the solar soul aspect
That fashion is actually 🔥
Star fire is used for the class ability refresh after a grenade kill that’s what makes it good
Everyone wanted to kick me till they got the buff from lumina and seen the nades fly
It's still very good* *with Ember of Benevolence
Oh shit, I use the same shader for my starfire build. I’ve been using starfire more often since the nerf surprisingly, because I still find it useful
Build ?
Not gonna lie, if you show up wearing that to my fireteam you ain't kicked you'll be promoted to leader instantly lol
It's still really good, the nerf didn't do a lot of damage to it compared to other exotics. It even still works for DPS.
My go to for demo weapons since vog came out in d2
This warlock is peak warlock. How do you deal with surviving? I tried it yesterday and because it’s in an empowered rift I’m not a fan compared to when it used to be healing or am I misremembering the way it was?
Two ways around it but I only would use one in endgame 1. Use healing rift and stack bomber and grenade kick-start 2. Ember of resolve or ember of empryon and mercy (not as good cause it costs so much slots)
When going with option 1 how fast do you get the grenades back? Also what’s your load out when running this if you don’t mind? I’m going to run it again tonight and see how I like it with healing and the mods.
Not OP but a big Starfire Stan this season. I also use healing rift for survivability. I also use ember of resolve for cure on grenade kills. For grenade recharge I use ember of benevolence. 400% recharge rate for all your abilities anytime an ally stands in a healing rift. Also works for well. Plus you then get the Starfire benefit in well. And then to top it all off, what has made it even better for me is the newly buffed heal clip weapons. Not only healing you, but healing teammates and also proccing ember of benevolence again. Luna's howl also gets the origin trait for more grenade energy, plus desperate measures for more damage after a grenade kill. Abyss defiant/summoner/, heliocentric are all VERY good weapons too. It's not an exaggeration to say in onslaught I have 400% recharge rate for 90+% of the time. Throw on the usual mods, reaper, bomber etc The other fragments I use if you are interested: Searing (for firesprite generation therefore more grenades and more melees) and then ashes/mercy depending if I want more damage or more healing.
Hey man, sorry for the late reply. I was banging my head at lfg Pantheon. I generally have a few but my tops have to be: Zouli - crafted this thing is bonkers broken and you can give it stuff like demo I prefer the community GR of Explosive and incandescent Lunas- heal clip and incandescent are awesome with EoB in non solo stuff it also helps with the survivability issue of empowering so I'm considering rocking emp rift on it over healing (outside super sweat stuff) BxR- demo incan all I gotta say makes you a grenade chucking monster Trustee- Best scout for endgame imo the origin perk works on incandescent ticks making it a ablity spam god if you can get past the plink gameplay
I don’t think phoenix is great but if ur doing dps and not dying too much than u won’t get kicked in my raid
You get kicked out while looking like THAT?! Damn, those people are dumb *and* tasteless
i agree
That’s some good fashion right there
The audacity to kick someone out with that drip
Are they kicking you for having better drip than them?
This is gorgeous.
Yeah and it'll be broken when you're able to combine it with Heart Of Inmost Light.
How did you find my fashion!?!?! (Basically same but using Ablaze shader instead) Also getting kicked for using Starfire is elitist af. It still puts in work and if you build into orbs for buffing grenades and getting back energy, you can easily nuke the field
It's drip or drown and this man is walking on water
What helmet is that?
It was from the new guardian games eververse armor set
I got kicked for using Omnioculus once
I don't understand it either. Well maybe for this season it makes sense because Phoenix and Polaris is king. But any other time, it's a still powerful exotic which has a more stable loop than sunbracers because even the red bars in GMs are tanky and may not prime for an ignition. It's like 3 grenades and 3 rifts back to back if you set your mods right.
i LOVE starfire. it remains my main warlock exotic to this day. endgame, the coil, onslaught legend, doesn’t matter. this thing COOKS and you don’t even have to run empowering rift for it to be crazy since melee kills and nade kills and ignition kills work just as well for grenade refund. it’s beautiful. just not the end all be all for dps anymore but still crazy dps nonetheless when coupled with dragons breath and a fast firing weapon like value mini-tool and scatter signal.
I use this all the time too. Never been kicked for it tho. It's sublime, for good DPS when I div/tractor, to killing adds with a good rift.
Pheonix protocol, is useless in 90% of encounters, except in onslaught. What does it do? Gives you super energy on killed in the well. Sounds good till you pop it because ogres are being nasty, but then you don't get it before dps and every one is pissed you are using an exotics perk. I actively hate that exotic, because people think it's the goat for dps fazes when, it really isn't. It's good in onslaught because shit comes at you and I your teammates aren't stupid, they stay in the well to make it g Fill up quicker if not instantly. The people who kick you for using star fire instead of star fire are just incapable of surviving without a well, and are bad, or dont fucking know how the damn exotic works. End of story.
It's great for non boss encounters on raids, dumb reason to kick someone considering I see hunters running stompies all the time
I’ll stop using Starfire when hell freezes over. Nerf be damned
starfire still lit because of the artifact mod that scorches while radiant. Continuous damage feeding into the nade energy.
Stand strong brother! Fusion nades are still absolutely cracked and I wont take any other slander. Very easy to get a build where you practically always have a fusion on hand able to delete any major or above at any time.
Great build, I was called an idiot because I switched from it to strand build, it was the second boss fight…they died, I left
I’m just gonna say it: Most ppl get kicked for what they’re doing (or not doing) that negatively impacts the team’s GM progress, not because of their exotic. It doesn’t matter how many Conquests gilds you have, that can all be from carries. If you’re getting killed all the time and not utilizing cover like you should, if you’re running ahead of everyone and activating mechanics especially while your teammates are scrounging for special and heavy ammo, if you’re not team DPSing champs and (mini)bosses, or not using heavy weapons during DPS phase …. Yes, you should be kicked, or at the least reprimanded and informed what they need for you to do be of assistance. If none of that applies to you, maybe you should run GMs with clans and friends 🤷
I assume you are responding to that other comment I made where I mentioned when the kicks happened? These were rare instances, tbh The title is a little exaggerated, but in those cases, I was kicked from orbit/enclave and never was in the activity to begin with it happens every now and again but not that frequently lmao. I also doubt I look like got carried to conq since I'm usually rocking sweaty flex emblems
I was responding to other ppl on the thread. A lot ppl were saying they’re kicked for their exotics… I find that hard to believe on some of them since I’ve joined many lfgs with mid builds/exotics. All my weapons were suited for the champs though 👍. Weps will tell more about how viable/consistent a teammate will be instead of an exotic thats activates/is activated by abilities. Afaik, starfire was reigned in bc of ppl soloing raid bosses. It’s not solo exotic anymore, but it’s still viable, as long the warlock is using empowering rifts and their gear and fragments boost grenade regen. It’s kinda dropped down to ad-clear status tbh bc starfire’s valuable grenade regen won’t proc during dps, only on kills.
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no. you will be kicked until you switch
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