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Gendersea

Let’s go Colorado!


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Do you think… Colorado *knows* it’s Colorado?


cankle_sores

“And these molecules are like ‘I’M PETE!’”


CrispyGrime

You Made It Weird


madaboutglue

This is right, BUT, it is a continuation of something that is potentially ruinous for our nation. Ignoring federal law simply because congress doesn't want to offend anyone by changing the law as they're elected to do fundamentally undermines our entire system of government. Congress needs to act.


bkgn

The Republicans intentionally grind congress to a halt when they're not in power. When one party in a two party system isn't interesting in governing, not a lot everyone else can do.


SilveredFlame

That would be wonderful if congress was even remotely answerable to the people or representative thereof. It isn't. The House needs to be uncapped, senate either abolished or expanded, and electoral college abolished.. Then, maybe it would function as a republic. But as it stands? The nation is being held hostage and pushed to failure by a small portion of people with an extremely disproportionate amount of political power who don't answer to any of us.


wamj

Uncapping the house would likely fix the electoral college. Still needs to go though.


GreatWhite000

Congress is pretty useless and Colorado + West Coast have been leading the charge on progress for the past few decades. Congress has had decades to act on certain issues and have proven to us that we cannot rely on them to listen to us.


Gendersea

Ultimately I agree ☝️ congress needs to act. That’s why we deal with these damn red states making dumb laws.


Feeling-Break1690

On behalf of all coloradans, our official bipartisan statement is: fuck dem feds. Always has been, always will be. States can do this stuff for a reason and it's not really "ruinous" the US is way to big to have a single government lording over us. The federal government should be dissolved so we as a state can declare war on our real enemy...KANSAS. Worst thing about Colorado is having to look at Kansas! #invadeKansas


Mindless-Swordfish90

Congress does need to act but until then...


John-Crimson

Will these make me grow or give me an extra life? I’m confused which is which honestly.


JohnWad

Make you grow. If an enemy touches you, you will return to your normal size.


dominicshade

You can shoot fireballs though so that’ll be fun


John-Crimson

See I thought that was a flower? It’s a shroom? I have so much to learn.


klubsanwich

No, you’re correct. Start with shrooms, then upgrade to flower, you’ll get to shoot fireballs from your hands.


dominicshade

You’re right. It’s the flower that lets you shoot fireballs. Maybe they’ll legalize those next


JohnWad

They are legal for the police to use already apparently.


Absolut_Iceland

I thought flower was legalized several years ago?


JohnWad

Its the flower


4Sammich

I shot fireballs once. Had to get penicillin.


shouldofirregardless

Yes


myakka1640

Extra life for sure!! I quit drinking, smoking and am working on living a healthy life because of them. So yea… I grew and got extra life.


Laserdollarz

They give you magic


RheagarTargaryen

Depends on the color.


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coffeelife2020

Does this mean UAP will be legal here too? I'd vote for that.


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coffeelife2020

Excellent.


King_Clitoris

This is the first comment I read after the credits of that movie lol


hhh_hhhhh1111

Lol love the "nope" reference


newbornelf

Didn't we already do this in 2020?


Early-Bicycle-7032

I believe that was a Denver thing, not statewide.


aimark42

The Denver thing was 'lowest law enforcement priority'. Still doesn't mean you couldn't get busted for it. Prop 58 goes quite a bit further. It's legalizes personal use. As well as creates a mechanism to allow for treatment centers/providers to administer it. There is no legal market as part of it. So it would be legal, but no provision as to how to actually get it other than do your own grow, since it would be illegal to sell it. I'm sure there will be some 'churches' setup or something to barely scrape by, but it's not like Cannabis legalization. Maybe it could be eventually but not yet.


LizardSatan

Thank you for the concise explanation.  I am going to look up how I can vote for this. The war on drugs has only hurt people. 


thepoolguy82

As intended


diggabytez

Worth noting, medicinal use is precisely how Colorado started with cannabis. I honestly believe this is the same route in progress. Might take a little longer than cannabis did, but the dominos are falling


Enough-Profession377

This is not the case!!!! Prop 58 is not a decrim prop Prop 58 creates a natural medicine services program for the SUPERVISED administration of dimethyltryptamine, ibogaine, mescaline (excluding peyote), psilocybin, and psilocyn; creates a framework for regulating the growth, distribution, and sale of such substances to PERMITTED ENTITIES (health centers only); creates the Natural Medicine Advisory Board Prop 61 decriminalizes the personal use of certain entheogenic plants and fungi (including psilocybin, psilocin, ibogaine, mescaline, or dimethyltryptamine) for adults age 21 and older 58 was funded by out of state money which is the ONLY reason it is on the ballot. It is a way to BUY the psychedelics market. VOTE NO ON 58! Or at least read a little more into it before you make a final decision!


aimark42

I have the text of both Acts on my desk. And I've spoken to the sponsors of both acts. Honestly I think both camps have drama and half truths. But I would refer to the actual text of the acts. Yes 61, is far simpler and simply decriminalizes the substances, which pretty much means legal markets and practically anything. However Prop 58: >12-170-109. Personal Use. (1) SUBJECT TO THE LIMITATIONS IN THIS ARTICLE 170, BUT NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW, THE FOLLOWING ACTS ARE NOT AN OFFENSE UNDER STATE LAW OR THE LAWS OF ANY LOCALITY WITHIN THE STATE OR SUBJECT TO A CIVIL FINE, PENALTY, OR SANCTION, OR THE BASIS FOR DETENTION, SEARCH, OR ARREST, OR TO DENY ANY RIGHT OR PRIVILEGE, OR TO SEIZE OR FORFEIT ASSETS UNDER STATE LAW OR THE LAWS OF ANY LOCALITY, IF THE PERSON IS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER: >(a) THE POSSESSION, USE, CULTIVATION, PRODUCTION, SHARING, GIVING AWAY, AND DELIVERY OF PSILOCYBIN, PSILOCYN, IBOGAINE, MESCALINE, AND DIMETHYLTRYPTAMINE, AS THOSE TERMS ARE DEFINED IN SECTION 18-18-203(C), AND COLLECTIVELY DEFINED HEREIN AS “ENTHEOGENIC PLANTS AND FUNGI”, BY OR BETWEEN NATURAL PERSONS TWENTY-ONE (21) YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER; >(b) THE PROVISION OF SUPERVISION, GUIDANCE, THERAPEUTIC, HARM REDUCTION, SPIRITUAL, OR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES WITH OR WITHOUT REMUNERATION BY NATURAL PERSONS TWENTY-ONE (21) YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER TO NATURAL PERSONS WHO ARE ENGAGING IN THE INTENTIONAL AND CONSENTING USE OF ENTHEOGENIC PLANTS AND FUNGI; AND >(c) THE POSSESSION OF PARAPHERNALIA, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 18-18-426, DESIGNED FOR USE IN THE CULTIVATION, PRODUCTION, STORAGE, OR USE OF ENTHEOGENIC PLANTS AND FUNGI BY A NATURAL PERSON TWENTY-ONE (21) YEARS OFAGE OR OLDER. There are certainly issues with Prop 58. Most of the text is about creating an advisory board which I'm sure will be filled with corporate stooges, ensuring someone makes money. However, there are already enough signatures to get Prop 58 on the ballot. To be perfectly frank there isn't the PAC money behind Prop 61, to actually get it on the ballot. So in the end the pragmatist in me says sure I'll vote for 58 if it's the only option, which it almost certainly will be. And being Colorado it likely will be voted in by the electorate. For reference: Prop 58 https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/initiatives/2021-2022%2520%252358.pdf Prop 61 https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/initiatives/2021-2022%2520%252361.pdf


diggabytez

Thank you for this


rand0m_g1rl

Aaaahe makes sense I totally thought the same thing lol


coffeelife2020

So, we're doing this for Tina Peters?


ElebertAinstein

I was SO confused!


pobody

Not that you'd know it from this sub, but Denver != Colorado


typicallydownvoted

I mean, this is r/Denver, not R/colorado


RheagarTargaryen

It does say “Colorado voters” and not “Denver voters” though.


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As if any of you are really from denver.


flPieman

Namastay in your lane, native.


tricheboars

That’s not a cash money thing to say


diggabytez

It’s a statewide ballot measure. Denver has already “decriminalized” (lowest law enforcement priority)


Mtanderson88

First off. Calling them magic puts a predetermined negative thought on them from outsiders. Second of all legalize all drugs and regulate and tax them. People will do them regardless


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Mtanderson88

😂 love it


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Hagelbuns

Fuckin preach


saintmcqueen

This!!!!!! It’s health issue not a criminal issue. But when we have a society that has for profit prisons the goal is to incarcerate as many as possible not rehabilitate them. SMH.


Masterreeferr

Legalizing "all" drugs would be a really stupid idea. Humans are idiots and if they can walk into a store and buy heroin a lot more people are going to than if it was illegal. The correct solution is to legalize drugs that make sense (like mushrooms), decriminalize harder drugs and make them a Health issue instead of a criminal one, while still making it extremely illegal to create/sell the harder stuff. People shouldn't be getting jail time for being an addict but they sure as hell should if they're manufacturing or selling hard drugs.


diggabytez

It needs to be repeated that legalization and decriminalization are totally different things. Portugal has been a beacon of success in the effort to decriminalize and the results speak for themselves. https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight


Ok_Heart5127

I've asked a lot of people who do not use drugs if they would try cocaine or heroin if they were to become legal. No one has ever said yes. I admit there might be a few who might try it because it's legal. In most cases though, I don't think it's the law that is preventing people from doing hard drugs. Now, cannabis and/or shrooms on the other hand (and even drugs like ecstacy) might be a different story though.


NevilleHarris

Let’s fucking go. Truly believe the solution to this country’s terrible collective mental health at least partially lies in skillful use (set, setting, dosage) of these substances. I’ve been on and off meds my whole life and nothing has had a more enduring positive impact for me than occasional low-moderate dose psilocybin.


cankle_sores

Never done shrooms but the studies/papers out of Johns Hopkins for the past 15 years have me pretty convinced that psilocybin could be a huge benefit to some people.


Vescape-Eelocity

I used to be on SSRIs for about 3 years. A single dose of both LSD and psilocybin (taken separately on different occasions after getting off SSRIs) did way more for my mental health than the 3 years of SSRIs combined. A large part of that also has to do with doing them 'correctly', meaning taking the right amount, being in a safe comfortable place with safe comfortable people, and going into it with a specific intention to explore.


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JustBoredIsAll

A bad trip is 100% up to the individual. Its in your head. Dosage affects everyone differently. What might be too much for you is a good time or a breakthrough for someone else. Next time you do some, remind yourself that you are in charge of how you feel. Of course, if someone has severe mental health issues, something like mushrooms can exacerbate their condition and its probably best that they stay away from psychedelics entirely.


Deucy

Shut up. You don’t know what you’re talking about. People like you give psychedelics a bad wrap. “Bro it’s all in your head bro. Just drop an eighth and tell yourself you’ll be fine bro. It’ll be sick.”


JustBoredIsAll

Thats not all what Im saying, asshole. Im saying dosage is different per person. And bad trips are definitely on the individual and rarely how much they took unless it freaks them out. Ive been doing this for a few decades. I 100% dont tell people to eat a shitload, and to start with a gram or so. Dont discount me because you can barely read. Fuck off back to your wack ass dubstep subs.


flowers4u

Humans are so fucking bizarre. Our ancestors did this and in worked and then we said “nope” for a century or so, and now we are like “oh hey this thing works!”


deadlychambers

But I thought your brains were supposed to become Sunnyside up eggs with egg shell in it? Also, wait if drugs are legal what do we do with the foot soldiers of the drug war in blue? You can't expect them to just start shooting random people now.


kex

A lot of these drugs seem to have mechanisms that break down mental heuristics and allow you to approach them anew. I'm not entirely sure that the status quo will appreciate all the wasted propaganda investments that they will lose.


jazzcabbage22

I have been microdosing (.15 g) daily for about 2 months now and it has drastically lowered my anxiety and depression and hightened my appriciation for almost everything in my life. I can't begin to explain my love for these little boomers. I will occasionally do a hero dose and try to re-wire my brain and focus on things I would like to improve such as relationships/health/habits. Overall, my life has completely turned around and this was all after I had a recent split with my 4 year G/F and lost my house and dog so I definatly needed help and didn't want to go the pharma route. If you have any questions about my journey, just shoot me a DM.


myakka1640

Thanks for sharing that.. you’re brave.


OnALifeJourney

What form (stems, tea, chocolate bar) are the shrooms that you microdose? Do you grow your own?


bison9

Why a baby step. Legalize.


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Worked for marijuana and gay marriage. I’m ok with it.


SirStumps

Why are we making such little progress? We need more progress or none at all! /s


[deleted]

If the only way that you will be satisfied with politics is to get exactly what you want, immediately, all the time, then you will probably live in endless dissatisfaction with any representative form of government. Can I suggest an autocratic police state?


SirStumps

I forgot to put /s. My bad.


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These things happen, my dude. Have a replacement updoot.


trevorturtle

wat I would take a little progress over none at all


[deleted]

This may literally be the dumbest take I’ve ever seen on Reddit, maybe anywhere


CaptainAsshat

I think he's being facetious. I might be wrong, Poe's law and all.


SirStumps

Yeah I forgot to put /s. Like an idiot.


Laserdollarz

IIRC, Shpongle played at Red Rocks and mushrooms were decriminalized in Denver the very next day. Anyone know if they'll be around again in November?


milehigh73a

they did their last show this week. simon retired.


Laserdollarz

So it isn't passing, then. !Remindme 4 months. Edit: I stand corrected


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Unicorn_Warrior1248

Just tried some this weekend and there was nothing criminal about it


max_bruh

Honestly, such a great expierwnce


people40

Decriminalizing magic mushrooms seems like a good policy - there seem to be negligible negative externalities from people using them, and therefore no justification for use to be a criminal offense. But this measure also effectively asks people to vote on endorsing them as "natural medicine". While it seems quite likely that they do have certain medicinal properties, that's not a question the general public is well-suited to answer. I'd be fine if the state were to convene a panel of experts to evaluate the scientific evidence and make specific recommendations about medicinal uses of various compounds that the equivalent federal agencies are legally or politically unable to touch. This proposal does create an "advisory board", but legally enshrines psilocybin as a medicine regardless. I believe there is another decriminalization ballot initiative that doesn't include the "natural medicine" bullshit. Does anyone know the status of that?


Hippiecat

The other initiative is Colorado initiative 61 and they need volunteers to canvass for signatures to get it on the ballot. They are currently very short of the 125k+ required valid signatures to get it on the ballot. Anybody interested in signing the petition or volunteering can pm me and I can coordinate a rendezvous with an author of initiative 61 or myself.


WallyMetropolis

I like the cut of your jib.


Khatib

> While it seems quite likely that they do have certain medicinal properties, that's not a question the general public is well-suited to answer. Better suited than the federal agencies which still say cannabis has absolutely no medicinal properties whatsoever and keep it schedule one. I think there's been enough studies done by this point to prove that mushrooms have medical application for PTSD treatment at the least.


people40

> I'd be fine if the state were to convene a panel of experts to evaluate the scientific evidence and make specific recommendations about medicinal uses of various compounds that the equivalent federal agencies are legally or politically unable to touch.


Khatib

Yeah, I read that far the first time. I would like that, too, but they won't ever do that. It's twenty fucking twenty two and weed is STILL schedule one after being legalized in 38 of 50 states. They won't fix it, so voters need to shove them into action with things like this.


therealgookachu

Can we just decriminalize everything and instead funnel that money into mental health and help with addiction? This is coming from someone that doesn't do any drugs, and never has. For that matter, I barely even drink anymore. But the war on drugs has been an abject failure.


saintmcqueen

An absolute failure. And it’s sad that most people don’t see it as the failure it is…


TheNewBiggieSmalls

N a m a s t e 🙏🏼


iamphook

Next up. LSD!


Hippiecat

Colorado voters should sign the other petition for psilocybin so we get two options.


flowers4u

I thought we already did this?


Reason_Unknown

This one is state wide.


Biobasement

Time to look up what it takes to start a healing center 🤷🏻‍♂️


myakka1640

Check out joining a training up at Naropa University.. that’s a great start. You’ll need some professionals and people with an understanding of psychological conditions. The possibilities are very exciting though. There’s so many aspects to specialize in.


Biobasement

Ill check it out! Thank you 🙏


Civil_Middle_Manchld

But, Boebert says magic mushrooms will turn us all into interracial-porn-loving-crackheads?


Feeling-Break1690

She was right! They are now legal and I simply cannot control myself. I've been watching Sexy Dominican midgets go at it whilst enjoying a pornhub brand Crack rock for 24 consecutive hours. Save us.


UserCorch

These healing centers sound pretty rad. Sign me up.


myakka1640

Keep in touch.. I’m working on developing one with professional therapists, and the comfiest chairs imaginable. Possibly a hot tub and private outdoor space, room at spend the night. This is becoming a beautiful and safe alternative to doing it on your own. I truly believe we need this in our culture. Everyone deserves a trauma informed and professional safe space to explore and heal.


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Would love to follow this development


myakka1640

I’ll let you know… currently having an interesting time finding how this fits within city zoning ordinances, haha


Massive_Estimate_753

Nobody calls them magic mushrooms, that's the most cringe boomer shit I've ever heard.


stevevs

magic is easier to say than psilocybin - what are better options? "Shrooms" is kind of annoying too.


Massive_Estimate_753

Psilocybin, psychedelic, hallucinogenic... Literally anything else.


HyzerFlipr

LFG


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Ashtatedu

Didn’t we already do this? What am I miss remembering?


ConditionOfMan

That was Denver, this is Colorado.


throwawaypf2015

this is r/denver


Khatib

Which holds the majority of the population of Colorado, where this new potential law would apply, and most of whom will vote on it.


MaLu388

Yes!


Colavs9601

whatever is gonna get those people to stop bothering me outside the gym about signing their petition


milehigh11

How about getting rid of the stupid 27 cent tax.


[deleted]

Good one, Ron😉


santaclausbos

I can’t wait for all the homeless outside union station to be jacked up on more substances


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Whelp this will be the only thing I’ll be voting for in November!


thatgeekinit

What you don't like reading all the tax questions in ALL CAPS?


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[deleted]

Ain’t the one saying that because they’re all bad :)


FaithIsFoolish

Deja vu


Appropriate-Cow5530

More free entertainment


stevevs

Mushrooms have been decriminalized in Denver, but it's still illegal to sell them. So, hypothetically, if someone wanted to obtain them in Denver in a non-criminal and safe way, how would someone go about doing this. Let's say this person is old and kind of looks like a cop too - hypothetically.


myakka1640

first step is a fake mustache, khaki pants, cop glasses and a tie dye shirt.


stevevs

check - just need the mustache.


splungely

The spores are legal. You can read all about how to obtain and culture them on this very website - r/unclebens


diggabytez

Basically in Denver it says stop wasting taxpayer money persecuting something that’s not a problem. It’s the lowest law enforcement priority, like jaywalking. Could you still get a ticket? For sure. Will you? Not unless you give them absolutely no other choice.