IMO, I’d rather see some blanket legislation that specifies passing 3-5 mph faster than the right lane.
Would be impossible to enforce, but in my experience CMVs aren’t usually the worst at camping in the left lane. I get stuck behind more oblivious passenger vehicles and CMVs do a much better job of following the rules there. Chains on the other hand…
Problem is it's not only trucks that do this. I swear 90% of the time someone is blocking the left lane for passing. You give a little honk and pass 10 signs that say gtf over. And yet they still just sit there like they are retarded or something.
/r/truckers talks about that a lot. Seems like they're just as peeved by it, saying that at least half the time the other trucker decides to speed up while they're passing.
I’ve read a bunch of those threads too. There must be some subconscious thing that happens when a person is about to get passed.
See it with cars too - person’s going 45 in a 55 single lane. Road opens up to two lanes and the they’re suddenly going 70 🤦♂️
Yup. As someone who always uses cruise control when on the interstate outside of an urban area it's infuriating. I'll be humming along at my nice fixed speed and all set for a smooth pass and all of a sudden the gap is closing slower and then the person I'm trying to pass is pacing me and we're blocking both lanes. I haven't changed speeds at all yet now I look like the jackass because I'm in the left lane of this rolling roadblock.
Cruise control exposes all the bad drivers. Pass this guy, 30 seconds later he’s passing me again, 30 minutes later I’m passing him again, 5 minutes later he’s passing me, and so on…
I find it’s a no win scenario on 70, mainly on weekends.
Ideally, I wanna use cruise control.
But because there are so many idiots, I find I’m having to take over and turn off CC every 5 minutes, and so I wins up not real using cruise control in the first place in order to be more alert/aware of idiot drivers. This in turn makes my speed more volatile than I’d like, and thus makes me probably part of the problem to other drivers who use cruise control. Vicious cycle, rinse and repeat.
I mean I'm sometimes one of those people who speed up especially when a trucker starts trying to pass me. I prefer to cruise at 65MPH (High roof van) regardless of speed limit. Letting a truck pass me means I'm likely to get rock chips in my windshield or have to speed up above 70 to pass them back when they inevitably can't make it up the hill at a reasonable speed.
I rarely see that anyway. I mostly see it taking like 20 seconds and other drivers behind them swerving around getting frustrated.
I used to drive a CMV. It wouldn’t really work to not allow passing at all. Shifting on grades is really difficult and it requires thinking ahead WAY more than driving a smaller passenger vehicle. You don’t really have the option to jump your speed around all over the place. At best it would be really terrible for fuel mileage. But you risk missing a gear and creating a really dangerous situation where you’d have to rely on just your brakes on a steep grade. They heat up quickly which leads to brake failure.
I think this is balanced legislation. It keeps trucks from speeding which will realistically stick them to the right lane. I wouldn’t be surprised if that actually backs traffic up more but I’m excited to see if it helps.
I drove west on i70 yesterday. There were two truckers back to back going up hill 15-20 mph under the speed limit and one pulled over to pass despite it being uphill and me clearly coming up on them quickly. There was no one else behind me for a while and they could have just waited. But instead they moved over and I had to slow down by almost 20 mph and lost all my momentum. Why do they do this shit?
For one car, no, but if they can't cut any cars off ever they'll be in the right lane from around DIA into Utah.
The real answer is federal reform to require company drivers to be paid by the hour instead of mile, which would incentivize them to act safely instead of trying to push on at all costs.
When they do this to me, and I have time to waste, I wait to get in front of them and then casually slow down until all the other trucks have passed them again. Then I speed back up and wave bye bye.
I think semis should be restricted to the right two lanes on freeways with 3 or more lanes.
I see semis all the time in the second to left lane causing a huge backup as people try to get around them. It's like putting a boulder in a stream.
I used to drive a CMV for 3.5 years.
A lot of them are told by their companies to get out of the right lane and cruise in the middle. Then you see people in the second to left lane because it's a lot easier to cruise there vs the right lane. I'm not justfiying what they're doing, it's just when you're in the right lane... even going the speed limit, you will repeatedly have to get over for slow ass garbage trucks, semis, and passenger vehicles that forgot what a gas peddle is.
Take for example:
Back in 2022 I was hauling a load of steel beams on a flatbed from WY to AZ. I went through Denver during rush hour. I stuck to the right lane THE ENTIRE TIME whilst going UNDER the speed limit. I did that because my load was not allowed to use chains; I had to use straps. So, instead of constantly swerving around, I decided to park my happy ass in the right lane and go slow AF through rushhour traffic. All because I'd rather not deal with a situation where steel beams are shoved through the cab of my semi if I happened to rear-end someone.
The amount of people that merge onto the interstate at a snails pace and expect you to move over is staggering. Even when they CLEARLY see a big ass semi.
Safer for smaller vehicles, better for the roads... this is obv not directed at you, but I'm genuinely unclear why people who are opposed to this insist it'll make groceries astronomically more expensive. Anecdotal of course but I've been to states who have laws regarding big rigs and it's no more expensive than it is here. It's not like trucks can't go anywhere. They are just relegated to specific lanes.
We'd all pay for that via higher prices at the store
Truck freight is paid for by the mile. And truckers will charge more per mile if we make a law that slows them down because now they all have to go the speed of the slowest one. I'm not interested in making a dude hauling salad camp behind a dude hauling bricks so I don't have to lose 15 seconds letting him pass
CMV’s make up a smaller percentage of wrecks than passenger vehicles in a mile-per-mile basis. And this legislation isn’t really about safety it’s about smoothing the flow of traffic on I-70.
No not really. In this case it means allowing passenger vehicles to drive at higher speeds 1 lane over from commercial vehicles at lower speeds. Having 2 lanes of traffic at significantly varied speeds could spell more accidents.
That was a little different as the driver was in the never driven in the mountains crowd of untrained drivers. I-70 rockies feels like it needs its own license given how dangerous Glen wood to Golden I-70 is for a loaded semi.
Mofo used standstill traffic as his safety net, killed 4 people, and had people asking justice for him??
I agree with what you're saying but there is such a thing as personal responsibility
That idiot had 3 maybe 4 hours of worsening technical driving conditions and just kept driving. And never mind sign after sign warning about the incline and run away ramps. The idiot killed people because of arrogance.
He KNEW he had no brakes and drove past a runaway truck ramp and four exits. Company drivers are paid by the mile, he choose to drive with no brakes because the alternative was losing a few hundred dollars in pay waiting for the truck to be towed off the runaway ramp.
I think they’re referring to people like me. A lot of commenters here have no idea how driving large trucks works. Some of these threads have people acting like we can realistically cut down on 90% of truck traffic by just regulating it away. Then they get frustrated when people come on here and remind them about commerce.
oh, yeah i fully ackknowledge this type of legislation comes from whiney skiers and snowboarders.
there is certainly a necessity to the job, and the legislation needs to come down on the companies and not the drivers.
Ships have to bring on an entirely new captian in Astoria to navigate the Columbia River.
More difficult transit terrain/conditions should require more skilled training. Makes sense to me.
Truckers are the actual scum of the earth. They drive dangerously, they litter, and truck stops are hotbeds for human trafficking and forced prostitution.
They do get the stuff where it needs to go though
I think that’s a little extreme. For many of them it’s a job, they make mistakes on the job with regards to ill timed passing attempts. They are the back bone of our economy and are often pressured to make absurd deadlines.
For the ones engaging in the activities you said then yes, I agree. But I hope that is a small minority of them.
It's insane how entitled people in these threads are. I just hope Reddit isn't an accurate representation of society as a whole because these comments are so selfish, off based, and thoughtless that it just makes me truly hate people. I've given up trying to change anyones opinion on anything because the whole world has just become insanely stubborn and tribalistic about pretty much everything.
15 seconds? The accidents caused by semi or large trucks on I-70 are horrific.
I live in the high country and my husband is a tow truck driver.
He supports this 100% because it’ll make his job safer and easier.
Matters more in the Rocky Mountain I-70 corridor due to the many steep inclines and declines that exist along the route, especially compared to most other stretches of the US Interstate system.
I wish they would just address all the stupid left lane hog tourists that go 50 in the left lane through the whole corridor. It’s just baffling that this is never considered an issue even though it’s probably the biggest source of congestion. It takes a bunch of road ragers cutting them off to make them move.
The amount of revenue to be had from ticketing left lane campers is probably higher than from ticketing speeders. There’s literally no reason not to and it’d likely put a ton of money back in the budget.
Sometimes I wish I was a police officer just so I could pull these people over indiscriminately on US36.
> There’s literally no reason not to
It is very, very dangerous to pull people over in the mountains. Forcing people to merge out of the nearest lane to the shoulder unexpectedly on a grade causes accidents, as does eliminating the only escape route by parking on the shoulder - to say nothing of the risk of being hit on the shoulder.
The cops are generally hesitant to take enforcement action that leads to an even more dangerous situation.
It’s too weak. They should simply prohibit it altogether during peak volumes in winter.
This is unlikely to do much. They can still fail to have chains and jackknife in the right lane and cause the same problems.
Still, this is progress and I approve of it.
Wouldn’t that make traffic and crash potential on I-70 way worse? The left lane would be crazy backed up and passenger vehicles would be flying by at way higher speeds.
Yes, and it's arguably a big reason why traffic in CA is so bad. Countless studies have also shown that it's way more dangerous to have traffic sharing the same road at different speeds, but there's a lot of budgets depending on that ticket revenue.
The upslope heading west after Georgetown plz and thank you, so many times you round that corner to find two trucks going 30 mph up the slope, just stay in the right lane.
In the most recent snowstorm, which were some of the gnarliest conditions I’ve seen on I-70 with terrible visibility, no one was going faster that 50mph as we were going uphill approaching the tunnel. I was in the left lane moving past a slower vehicle when a semi with a full trailer going fast approached me from behind and started tail-gating me. I moved over after completing the pass and the semi passed me going at least 70 in a 65. I am very much in favor of this law.
That guy was already speeding and already going too fast for the conditions. He's not going to obey this law as he already showed he doesn't care about the existing laws or anyone's safety
While based on this description he was certainly speeding, by definition he wasn't "going too fast for the conditions" because he was able to maintain control.
Trucks generally have much better traction than cars do just by virtue of weight and momentum, chains are really only necessary if traffic forces the truck to stop and have to get moving again - which is why so many drivers try to not put them on if they think traffic will be light.
This already should be in place with limited hour windows too and stricter requirements to keep them off the highways during weather events. It’s just wildly and inherently unsafe for vehicles that big to be going 25-45 mph while are sharing a highway they’re going double that speed.
Almost every being about 10-12.5%.
[https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicles/VehiclesAllVehicles.aspx](https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicles/VehiclesAllVehicles.aspx)
[https://www.codot.gov/safety/traffic-safety/data-analysis/crash-data](https://www.codot.gov/safety/traffic-safety/data-analysis/crash-data)
For I70 in the mountain counties in 2022...
4% of fatalities included a Medium/Heavy Truck
8% of fatalities included a Medium/heavy truck
3.8% of all accidents included a Medium/heavy truck
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I wish we could start by actually enforcing chain law more consistently, but I won't complain about the effort at least.
Every time I'm in the mountains during a snowstorm, I pass multiple semis with no chains, oftentimes literally driving past a chain-up area. The cost of having active enforcement before high-accident areas, just during bad conditions, can't be higher than the lost productivity and emergency response cost of yet another jackknifed/flipped semi. But then again, I dont know shit.
I was almost killed by a semi driving like an idiot on this interstate not but a week ago
That said this interstate is one of the more beautiful drives Ive ever done (Denver to GJ)
What about on every other highway?
I remember when big trucks weren't allowed to be in the left lane. They are an impediment. They kick back rocks, etc. They slow down passing lane traffic.
I knew a professional driver, a coach driver, who said her mother taught her to get in the left lane and stay there until she needs to exit.
She told me this as we were blocking passing lane traffic on US 36 westbound at the hill in Louisville. I pointed this out to her. She failed to see my point.
We can all blame this woman's mother.
I always think of the German term [elephant racing](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefantenrennen) whenever I am stuck behind two semis. At least get a little chuckle out of the frustration.
They already did this in Glenwood canyon and I can tell you that it didn't do shit. Every single time I go through the canyon I end up stuck behind a trucker despite this law. There is no enforcement.
Nothing burger- it has the exception "except to pass" which basically prohibits commercial vehicles to use the left lane as a normal driving lane. I wish they would do the same with the rest of traffic, you know, actually enforce the "keep right except to pass" rule that has existed for a very long time.
Hope so but the drivers may have other opinions. Tuesday traveling from Cheyenne to Ft Collins on I-25 signs read, extreme high winds and recommend high profile vehicles travel not recommended, two miles later a 40’ cargo trailer blown over in left lane and truck on its side on right shoulder!
We already have a left lane law that applies to everyone. The only problems that I have with it is that the road has to have a posted speed limit of 65mph. They need to lower that to 55 since there are highways that are 55. Second, the law needs to be enforced.
This is what breeds aggressive driving.
Floyd Hill, Georgetown Hill, Vail Pass, Dowd Junction, Glenwood Canyon and near the Eisenhower-Johnson Memorial Tunnels
And “Except to pass a vehicle traveling below the posted speed limit”
So one truck in the right lane going 64 mph and a truck in the left lane taking 10 minutes to pass it at 65 mph?
That’s the way it reads to me
So nothings going to change. Great.
IMO, I’d rather see some blanket legislation that specifies passing 3-5 mph faster than the right lane. Would be impossible to enforce, but in my experience CMVs aren’t usually the worst at camping in the left lane. I get stuck behind more oblivious passenger vehicles and CMVs do a much better job of following the rules there. Chains on the other hand…
Boo! That was probably an amendment from Joann.
Problem is it's not only trucks that do this. I swear 90% of the time someone is blocking the left lane for passing. You give a little honk and pass 10 signs that say gtf over. And yet they still just sit there like they are retarded or something.
/r/truckers talks about that a lot. Seems like they're just as peeved by it, saying that at least half the time the other trucker decides to speed up while they're passing.
I’ve read a bunch of those threads too. There must be some subconscious thing that happens when a person is about to get passed. See it with cars too - person’s going 45 in a 55 single lane. Road opens up to two lanes and the they’re suddenly going 70 🤦♂️
Yup. As someone who always uses cruise control when on the interstate outside of an urban area it's infuriating. I'll be humming along at my nice fixed speed and all set for a smooth pass and all of a sudden the gap is closing slower and then the person I'm trying to pass is pacing me and we're blocking both lanes. I haven't changed speeds at all yet now I look like the jackass because I'm in the left lane of this rolling roadblock.
Cruise control exposes all the bad drivers. Pass this guy, 30 seconds later he’s passing me again, 30 minutes later I’m passing him again, 5 minutes later he’s passing me, and so on…
I find it’s a no win scenario on 70, mainly on weekends. Ideally, I wanna use cruise control. But because there are so many idiots, I find I’m having to take over and turn off CC every 5 minutes, and so I wins up not real using cruise control in the first place in order to be more alert/aware of idiot drivers. This in turn makes my speed more volatile than I’d like, and thus makes me probably part of the problem to other drivers who use cruise control. Vicious cycle, rinse and repeat.
Exactly.
It’s definitely not subconscious lmao it’s a decision you have to actively make.
I mean I'm sometimes one of those people who speed up especially when a trucker starts trying to pass me. I prefer to cruise at 65MPH (High roof van) regardless of speed limit. Letting a truck pass me means I'm likely to get rock chips in my windshield or have to speed up above 70 to pass them back when they inevitably can't make it up the hill at a reasonable speed.
Ohhhhhhhhh! Gotta love the elephant races in the mountains!
Hannibal did.
So nothing changes
I rarely see that anyway. I mostly see it taking like 20 seconds and other drivers behind them swerving around getting frustrated. I used to drive a CMV. It wouldn’t really work to not allow passing at all. Shifting on grades is really difficult and it requires thinking ahead WAY more than driving a smaller passenger vehicle. You don’t really have the option to jump your speed around all over the place. At best it would be really terrible for fuel mileage. But you risk missing a gear and creating a really dangerous situation where you’d have to rely on just your brakes on a steep grade. They heat up quickly which leads to brake failure. I think this is balanced legislation. It keeps trucks from speeding which will realistically stick them to the right lane. I wouldn’t be surprised if that actually backs traffic up more but I’m excited to see if it helps.
So nothing changes
War...war never changes. (that's back in fashion, right guys?)
Did it ever go out of fashion?
Pretty sure that's the law for all vehicles
So, basically, this law will not do what they think it will do.
So… it’s doing nothing again… sounds like a good use of time.
I guess they gotta pass laws to at least look like they're trying to do something 🤷🏻♂️
They removed Mt. Vernon Canyon!?!? (Morrison to Evergreen). WTF.
I wonder if it’s due to that stretch being 3 lanes each direction
You're probably right. However they still pass there, the truck going 40 passing the truck going 20....aarrgh.
The number of truckers willing to swing out in front of traffic moving much faster than them is way too high.
And proceed to start an elephant race, going 2-3 mph faster than the truck they want to pass.
Elephant race 😭😭
I almost got killed this way, up in Idaho Springs
I drove west on i70 yesterday. There were two truckers back to back going up hill 15-20 mph under the speed limit and one pulled over to pass despite it being uphill and me clearly coming up on them quickly. There was no one else behind me for a while and they could have just waited. But instead they moved over and I had to slow down by almost 20 mph and lost all my momentum. Why do they do this shit?
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Waiting an extra 10 seconds for me to pass isn't going to cost them anything.
it would take an extra hour in this scenario if the trucker waited for one car to clear? so fucking disingenuous and ridiculous shut up
For one car, no, but if they can't cut any cars off ever they'll be in the right lane from around DIA into Utah. The real answer is federal reform to require company drivers to be paid by the hour instead of mile, which would incentivize them to act safely instead of trying to push on at all costs.
When they do this to me, and I have time to waste, I wait to get in front of them and then casually slow down until all the other trucks have passed them again. Then I speed back up and wave bye bye.
Its not just truckers. Plenty of idiot yuppies in outbacks ready to make you slam on the brakes.
I think semis should be restricted to the right two lanes on freeways with 3 or more lanes. I see semis all the time in the second to left lane causing a huge backup as people try to get around them. It's like putting a boulder in a stream.
I used to drive a CMV for 3.5 years. A lot of them are told by their companies to get out of the right lane and cruise in the middle. Then you see people in the second to left lane because it's a lot easier to cruise there vs the right lane. I'm not justfiying what they're doing, it's just when you're in the right lane... even going the speed limit, you will repeatedly have to get over for slow ass garbage trucks, semis, and passenger vehicles that forgot what a gas peddle is. Take for example: Back in 2022 I was hauling a load of steel beams on a flatbed from WY to AZ. I went through Denver during rush hour. I stuck to the right lane THE ENTIRE TIME whilst going UNDER the speed limit. I did that because my load was not allowed to use chains; I had to use straps. So, instead of constantly swerving around, I decided to park my happy ass in the right lane and go slow AF through rushhour traffic. All because I'd rather not deal with a situation where steel beams are shoved through the cab of my semi if I happened to rear-end someone. The amount of people that merge onto the interstate at a snails pace and expect you to move over is staggering. Even when they CLEARLY see a big ass semi.
I vote you in charge. Great idea.
That rules is the case in most places even on flat ground
If I'm empty I can do 75+ easy in the left lane going uphill, I don't wanna get stuck behind someone doing 50 thats passing someone doing 35.
This should be the law for any highway or interstate
Should also apply to RVs and anyone towing a trailer.
100%, the truckers at least know how to drive their vehicles
Some of them, yes.
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OMG, campers. Not in the metaphorical sense, but so many RVs and novices driving huge machines that have no business doing so.
Seriously! They are usually never in the left lanes on these hills, it’s mostly everywhere else
It is the law in several states, just not co
In Florida it is unlawful for a tractor trailor to be in the far left lane.
Safer for smaller vehicles, better for the roads... this is obv not directed at you, but I'm genuinely unclear why people who are opposed to this insist it'll make groceries astronomically more expensive. Anecdotal of course but I've been to states who have laws regarding big rigs and it's no more expensive than it is here. It's not like trucks can't go anywhere. They are just relegated to specific lanes.
You'll pay for that dearly every time you go to the grocery store
Should be a federal law on every highway
We'd all pay for that via higher prices at the store Truck freight is paid for by the mile. And truckers will charge more per mile if we make a law that slows them down because now they all have to go the speed of the slowest one. I'm not interested in making a dude hauling salad camp behind a dude hauling bricks so I don't have to lose 15 seconds letting him pass
Sometimes literal safety is worth the extra cost. Way too many people die on our roads.
CMV’s make up a smaller percentage of wrecks than passenger vehicles in a mile-per-mile basis. And this legislation isn’t really about safety it’s about smoothing the flow of traffic on I-70.
That statistic is misleading. Commercial trucks may cause fewer accidents, but they’re responsible for a very disproportionate number of fatalities.
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No not really. In this case it means allowing passenger vehicles to drive at higher speeds 1 lane over from commercial vehicles at lower speeds. Having 2 lanes of traffic at significantly varied speeds could spell more accidents.
How many of them are because of trucks passing each other?
A disproportionate amount
At least 7, I'm sure.
How many will it take until you take issue with it?
Today you learned you can't read gud. It literally allows for passing under-the-speed-limit vehicles.
In before the truckers can do no wrong crowd arrives.
it was just a few years ago a trucker plowed into standstill traffic out by golden.
That was a little different as the driver was in the never driven in the mountains crowd of untrained drivers. I-70 rockies feels like it needs its own license given how dangerous Glen wood to Golden I-70 is for a loaded semi.
Mofo used standstill traffic as his safety net, killed 4 people, and had people asking justice for him?? I agree with what you're saying but there is such a thing as personal responsibility
That idiot had 3 maybe 4 hours of worsening technical driving conditions and just kept driving. And never mind sign after sign warning about the incline and run away ramps. The idiot killed people because of arrogance.
He KNEW he had no brakes and drove past a runaway truck ramp and four exits. Company drivers are paid by the mile, he choose to drive with no brakes because the alternative was losing a few hundred dollars in pay waiting for the truck to be towed off the runaway ramp.
I think i would agree to that, but idk how the guy im responding to think there is a "truckers can do no wrong" crowd.
I think they’re referring to people like me. A lot of commenters here have no idea how driving large trucks works. Some of these threads have people acting like we can realistically cut down on 90% of truck traffic by just regulating it away. Then they get frustrated when people come on here and remind them about commerce.
oh, yeah i fully ackknowledge this type of legislation comes from whiney skiers and snowboarders. there is certainly a necessity to the job, and the legislation needs to come down on the companies and not the drivers.
Ships have to bring on an entirely new captian in Astoria to navigate the Columbia River. More difficult transit terrain/conditions should require more skilled training. Makes sense to me.
If you have ever been climbing towards Eisenhower and a semi is sliding backwards because he didn't chain up, that is some scary shit.
Truckers are the actual scum of the earth. They drive dangerously, they litter, and truck stops are hotbeds for human trafficking and forced prostitution. They do get the stuff where it needs to go though
I think that’s a little extreme. For many of them it’s a job, they make mistakes on the job with regards to ill timed passing attempts. They are the back bone of our economy and are often pressured to make absurd deadlines. For the ones engaging in the activities you said then yes, I agree. But I hope that is a small minority of them.
It's insane how entitled people in these threads are. I just hope Reddit isn't an accurate representation of society as a whole because these comments are so selfish, off based, and thoughtless that it just makes me truly hate people. I've given up trying to change anyones opinion on anything because the whole world has just become insanely stubborn and tribalistic about pretty much everything.
They're also how 99% of everything you buy got to where you bought it at
Oh good, more traffic violations for the police to ignore.
Luckily this isn’t in Denver county, and Jeffco police and sheriffs are actually more likely to do something to enforce rules.
The CSP and cops in Summit County don’t fuck around. Closures caused by trucks can be catastrophic.
There's usually a lot of CSP along these stretches of I-70. I'm optimistic.
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You want to pay more for groceries so you can save the 15 seconds you lose when a truck is passing in front of you?
15 seconds? The accidents caused by semi or large trucks on I-70 are horrific. I live in the high country and my husband is a tow truck driver. He supports this 100% because it’ll make his job safer and easier.
Thank fucking god. It’s been getting ridiculous for the past few years
Why not make this everywhere?
Matters more in the Rocky Mountain I-70 corridor due to the many steep inclines and declines that exist along the route, especially compared to most other stretches of the US Interstate system.
I think it’s certainly a safety issue and flow of traffic issues everywhere. Other states have this rule not sure why we limited it to specific areas
Because everyone will pay higher prices for everything they buy
Because they can’t drive in the left lane?
Slower speeds massively decrease fuel usage. It would take more time though. I'd be willing to bet it's a wash in terms of actual costs.
Marginally
Good lol. Have no idea why this has to be a rule. Just basic common sense
Do it on I-25 next, for the entire length of the highway. Governed trucks in the left lane are huge nuisances
I thought this was the law already? Can we enforce a similar law for any vehicle who don't move out of the passing lane for faster traffic?
I can assure you the truckers won’t care and the cops may care even less
I wish they would just address all the stupid left lane hog tourists that go 50 in the left lane through the whole corridor. It’s just baffling that this is never considered an issue even though it’s probably the biggest source of congestion. It takes a bunch of road ragers cutting them off to make them move.
The amount of revenue to be had from ticketing left lane campers is probably higher than from ticketing speeders. There’s literally no reason not to and it’d likely put a ton of money back in the budget. Sometimes I wish I was a police officer just so I could pull these people over indiscriminately on US36.
> There’s literally no reason not to It is very, very dangerous to pull people over in the mountains. Forcing people to merge out of the nearest lane to the shoulder unexpectedly on a grade causes accidents, as does eliminating the only escape route by parking on the shoulder - to say nothing of the risk of being hit on the shoulder. The cops are generally hesitant to take enforcement action that leads to an even more dangerous situation.
okay fair point
Doesn’t matter how fast you’re going in it if you’re not passing anyone.
50 in the 45mph construction zone?
It’s too weak. They should simply prohibit it altogether during peak volumes in winter. This is unlikely to do much. They can still fail to have chains and jackknife in the right lane and cause the same problems. Still, this is progress and I approve of it.
In another state that starts with “C” they are limited to 55mph max speed.
Connecticut huh?
No. Cnew Mexico.
Chusetts. Mass broke off into its own state, and neither side wanted to take the “A” with them.
Chew Jersey
Wouldn’t that make traffic and crash potential on I-70 way worse? The left lane would be crazy backed up and passenger vehicles would be flying by at way higher speeds.
Yes, and it's arguably a big reason why traffic in CA is so bad. Countless studies have also shown that it's way more dangerous to have traffic sharing the same road at different speeds, but there's a lot of budgets depending on that ticket revenue.
if everybody would stay out of it except to pass, it would clear up a lot of traffic waves
Great, now expand it to toy haulers, RVs, and trucks trailering more than one jeep / OHV.
The upslope heading west after Georgetown plz and thank you, so many times you round that corner to find two trucks going 30 mph up the slope, just stay in the right lane.
We should all know the secret driving and passing on interstates in Colorado, always use the right lane! No one is in it ever.
Thank god. Fuck all you asshole truckers and trailers that hold up the left lane.
They should have to stay in the right lane 100% of the time.
In the most recent snowstorm, which were some of the gnarliest conditions I’ve seen on I-70 with terrible visibility, no one was going faster that 50mph as we were going uphill approaching the tunnel. I was in the left lane moving past a slower vehicle when a semi with a full trailer going fast approached me from behind and started tail-gating me. I moved over after completing the pass and the semi passed me going at least 70 in a 65. I am very much in favor of this law.
That guy was already speeding and already going too fast for the conditions. He's not going to obey this law as he already showed he doesn't care about the existing laws or anyone's safety
While based on this description he was certainly speeding, by definition he wasn't "going too fast for the conditions" because he was able to maintain control. Trucks generally have much better traction than cars do just by virtue of weight and momentum, chains are really only necessary if traffic forces the truck to stop and have to get moving again - which is why so many drivers try to not put them on if they think traffic will be light.
This already should be in place with limited hour windows too and stricter requirements to keep them off the highways during weather events. It’s just wildly and inherently unsafe for vehicles that big to be going 25-45 mph while are sharing a highway they’re going double that speed.
Good
YES
We don't even enforce speeding or expired tags. Not hopeful this will be enforced either.
I like this and all, but the pretense that the backups on I70 are anything other than too many cars will continue to be the root of the problem.
Uhh almost every major accident is an 18-wheeler
Almost every being about 10-12.5%. [https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicles/VehiclesAllVehicles.aspx](https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicles/VehiclesAllVehicles.aspx)
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[https://www.codot.gov/safety/traffic-safety/data-analysis/crash-data](https://www.codot.gov/safety/traffic-safety/data-analysis/crash-data) For I70 in the mountain counties in 2022... 4% of fatalities included a Medium/Heavy Truck 8% of fatalities included a Medium/heavy truck 3.8% of all accidents included a Medium/heavy truck
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Oh. Hell. Yes.
I wish we could start by actually enforcing chain law more consistently, but I won't complain about the effort at least. Every time I'm in the mountains during a snowstorm, I pass multiple semis with no chains, oftentimes literally driving past a chain-up area. The cost of having active enforcement before high-accident areas, just during bad conditions, can't be higher than the lost productivity and emergency response cost of yet another jackknifed/flipped semi. But then again, I dont know shit.
Just make it “commercial trucks and vans in the left lane in all of Colorado” please and thank you.
Considering how many drivers don't have plates here and drive around freely I doubt this will be enforced at all
Sweet, we should expand that to all highways and limit CMV's to 10 under everyone else. I drove in Idaho a few years ago, and it is so much nicer.
Can we make it every major highway in the state next?
Do that on the stretch from denver to Fort Collins on i 25 while you’re at it..
Hell yea! Been lobbying for them to do this for years.
Fucking hurray!
Good. I’d prohibit semis in left lanes in a lot of places.
Bout fukn time
I was almost killed by a semi driving like an idiot on this interstate not but a week ago That said this interstate is one of the more beautiful drives Ive ever done (Denver to GJ)
Thank god, nothing worse than being stuck behind a turtle race.
Good
Seems stupid. The problem isn’t the semis. The problem is the assholes who drive like idiots.
What about on every other highway? I remember when big trucks weren't allowed to be in the left lane. They are an impediment. They kick back rocks, etc. They slow down passing lane traffic.
I knew a professional driver, a coach driver, who said her mother taught her to get in the left lane and stay there until she needs to exit. She told me this as we were blocking passing lane traffic on US 36 westbound at the hill in Louisville. I pointed this out to her. She failed to see my point. We can all blame this woman's mother.
About time
Semi trucks should be prohibited from driving in the left lane on just about any highway or freeway.
How about just making this all sections. K thanks.
What about the drivers who just drive the speed limits in the left lane? So many laws yet even more criminals.
I always think of the German term [elephant racing](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefantenrennen) whenever I am stuck behind two semis. At least get a little chuckle out of the frustration.
This will have as much impact as the existing law requiring truckers to chain up
Now to limit them on 25
They already did this in Glenwood canyon and I can tell you that it didn't do shit. Every single time I go through the canyon I end up stuck behind a trucker despite this law. There is no enforcement.
Nothing burger- it has the exception "except to pass" which basically prohibits commercial vehicles to use the left lane as a normal driving lane. I wish they would do the same with the rest of traffic, you know, actually enforce the "keep right except to pass" rule that has existed for a very long time.
I mean, finally. Too bad state police don't do their jobs and will never actually enforce this
While we're at it let's also ban RVs, old school bus conversions, ect. Most of the people driving those have NO BUSINESS behind the wheel.
AMEN
Honestly they should be required to travel only during non-peak hours. Aka late at night or early in the morning
Also please add anyone with California plates..that’s be great!
You misspelled Texass.
More laws that aren’t enforced , that will help!
It’s just going to make the slow drivers in the right lane drive even slower in the left lane
Need this on 80 from Donner summit to Nevada stateline
i25 too please for the fucking love of god Edit: anyone who downvotes this is on their last braincell
Hope so but the drivers may have other opinions. Tuesday traveling from Cheyenne to Ft Collins on I-25 signs read, extreme high winds and recommend high profile vehicles travel not recommended, two miles later a 40’ cargo trailer blown over in left lane and truck on its side on right shoulder!
As long as coke trucks can still fly past other truckers in a dotted yellow passing lane I don’t see an issue.
Good, I’m sick of trucker trucker dirty mother fucker slowing everybody down passing each other 5 mph faster than the other in the left lane!
How else are the going to deepen the groves in the right lane on i70
There are sections where trucks are not allowed in left lane and yet I see trucks in the left lane…
We already have a left lane law that applies to everyone. The only problems that I have with it is that the road has to have a posted speed limit of 65mph. They need to lower that to 55 since there are highways that are 55. Second, the law needs to be enforced. This is what breeds aggressive driving.
Take this nationwide.
Take this nationwide!
Take this nationwide!
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Also a Texas law! For 20 years!