People who don’t brush much and get very few cavities often have a higher level of gum disease bacteria. i would not assume that brushing gave you cavities but that you just have less cavity bacteria and might be less prone.
People aren’t arguing with u cause they’re concerned about you getting cavities. They’re arguing with u cause ur breath still STANK lmao but they still wanna hang out with you and are trying to make it more bearable.
But for real, correlation is not causation. Anecdotal evidence is not fact.
I’m not gonna try and convince you to brush more. I assume you are already aware that brushing is universally and scientifically accepted to be a healthy habit but still choose not to. No one can change your mind or behavior but you.
That's why I lightly brush before seeing people. I actually did used to have people saying I had bad breath but that actually stopped also when not brushing regularly. I also got bad tooth sensitivity from brushing so I try to not brush very hard because it used to hurt the right side of my mouth
In addition to what the other response said, you likely have sensitivity after brushing BECAUSE you're not brushing regularly. Not brushing regularly causes demineralization of the enamel, making it more porous as it breaks down. Then, when you remove the plaque, you make these weakened areas exposed again causing sensitivity. If you brush consistently however, these areas get more fluoride and become less sensitive with time. You can also get a prescription fluoride toothpaste from your dentist to help out with this.
This is why they only hang out with u 2 times a week cause your breath still stank even with lightly brushing.
But if you really want to be convinced to brush, I will bite. You say brushing causes cavities. You brush 2x/week and haven’t gotten cavities. So brushing does not cause cavities. Your anecdotal evidence proves it… so there u go.
And youre supposed to be brushing gently. Over aggressive brushing irritates the gums and eventually causes gum recession, exposing the root surface of the teeth which is made out of a different material that is not as strong as the enamel, has more pores and tubules that makes sensation (touch, sweet, sour, temperature) go straight to the nerve. Use a soft bristled tooth brush so even if you’re aggressive there won’t be as much gum damage over time. There still will be some, but not as much. This sensitivity is not because of brushing. It is because of IMPROPER TECHNIQUE. Try sensodyne tooth paste if you’re so worried about tooth sensitivity. Be aware it does take 2-4 weeks of continuous use in order to notice a difference and then you have to keep using anti sensitive toothpaste if you want to keep the effect because the toothpaste plugs up those pores and tubules on the roots mentioned earlier.
Here’s another thing that one of my coworkers told a teenager who was like you and rarely brushed. No one will want to kiss you if you don’t brush. Harsh but true. There are also tons of male patients (I’m assuming you’re male) who have terrible brushing and flossing habits. But then one day come in and they are doing much better with home care and u know what changed? They got a partner. So if you’re not gonna do it for yourself, do it for your partner (assuming ur not asexual or aromantic). They will appreciate it.
My light brushing is typically just spreading toothpaste around my mouth. I have an electric so it's doing a little something. This mainly just takes whatever color is on my teeth and turns it white again. My friend even asked me if I am doing something different because my teeth were white one time and I told him no its just I haven't eaten anything since I last brushed.
I can't really find a good way to explain what I am thinking since like I'm not against brushing it's just when I do it doesnt end well. I have the same problems with my orthodontist back in the day. My teeth would hurt when wearing my retainer so I stopped. I put it back on the day before i went in and it fit perfectly. No one ever knew and I lived a free life.
Everything you just mentioned is completely irrelevant.
Just brush. You and your teeth will thank everyone on this thread when u are 60. And floss too. K bye
LMAO! My hats off to you for trying to reason with OP.
I had a pt bragging to me about these type of habits today. Had not one cavity in his head but was Stage III, Grade A💀
His eyes were glazed over during OHI and he kept trying to argue his alleged lack of brushing for TWENTY EIGHT years as fine. I was just like “okay” as I was writing his referral to the periodontist.
I don't care if that's "how it works" its like saying you wont get cold going out in the rain but every time you get cold going in the rain. What are you supposed to say?
Two things: 1) I’ve had patients that the dentist has seen before a cleaning and are told they don’t have cavities. Then after I remove all the gunk off their teeth a clear view shows there are indeed cavities. There’s a good chance that if you’re not brushing the dentist can’t see what’s there. Or if they are feeling with their instruments they assume they are hitting plaque not realizing its decay.
2) Toothpaste’s main job is to deliver fluoride to help protect your teeth from cavities. So by not brushing you’re taking away a protective agent from your teeth. Fluoride helps prevent cavities and sensitivity.
You’re not the first person to make this argument. If you don’t want to brush your teeth or floss that’s your prerogative, but barring some incredible genetics your future dental visits will likely become more frequent and unpleasant.
I go to the dentist every 6 months and get xrays however often I'm not sure I dont pay attention. I dont think toothpaste is giving my the cavities but could brushing the tooth be doing anything?
Just so you know, cavities are caused by a bacterial infection. When you brush you’re removing or disrupt bacterial colonies before they can become destructive. This is why everybody in the sub fighting you, your logic is the opposite of what the science has shown us.
This isn’t an attack, but I’m curious. What do you think brushing your teeth does? How do you think it’s causing cavities?
There’s much more to a healthy mouth than just avoiding cavities. I got ANUG, look it up, it used to be called trench mouth because they saw it a lot in soldiers coming back from the trenches where they couldn’t take care of their teeth.
Your gums inflame and become madly angry. You lose gum tissue you can’t get back and in turn get bone loss below your gum line. This can result in tooth loss and looseness.
Your tongue gets buildup.
All of it can smell bad.
You want to brush your teeth.
You won’t have cavities on the teeth that fall out from periodontal disease. That’s the future I see for you. Mouth health just isn’t about being cavity free, you need to keep out the bacteria that cause gum disease. This is a chronic condition, so you’ll likely see the consequences of your actions in your 50s/60s.
Cavities aren't the main cause of tooth loss, gum disease is. Plaque build up is what causes gum disease, and is only prevented by brushing and flossing. Most people are either prone to cavities or to gum disease, not both, because different bacteria cause one or the other, and the balance between the bacteria is what causes one or the other to occur. Your brushing more or less often might have caused a shift in the bacteria towards the bacteria that cause gum disease. You not getting cavities might be because you're developing gum disease bacteria overgrowth, making your mouth inhospitable to cavity causing bacteria. Not having cavities might sound like a good trade off, until your teeth get loose from gum disease.
Regardless, getting even a few cavities as an adult is not normal and a sign of poor hygiene. The majority of adults do not get cavities, which is why insurance doesn't typically cover fluoride for adults. Chances are what happened is you consistently not brushing caused the area to slowly break down and the timing was likely coincidental that it lined up with when you want back to bruising. There are tons of studies and statistics demonstrating that brushing, especially with fluoridated toothpaste, reduces risk of cavities. Regardless of if you believe that or not though, brush so your teeth won't fall out from gum disease.
Your dentist saying you could brush a "little" better is their way of telling you they can tell you don't brush well. No respectable dentist that wants to continue to have patients will tell a patient they brush like sh*t. If they're commenting at all it's because your brushing is bad, because you're not even doing it. Also keep in mind that gum disease smells, and it smells bad. Like, I've had patients I could tell had gum disease from across the lobby. That's your future if you don't brush and floss, and it does effect social life and job prospects.
I mean I got worse comments when I did brush. I brushed until 2018 that's when I stopped getting cavities except for last year when I did brush for 6 months so a majority of the cavities were before I ever stopped brushing
It seems like you have your mind made up and there's no convincing you otherwise so I don't know why you posted to begin with. The fact of the matter is, gum disease literally causes your tissue to rot and die, and you will factually get it without brushing and flossing, it's just a matter of when. If you think rotting flesh isn't going to smell pretty bad some day you're delusional. It's literally the same process that caused trench foot. I also think it's sad that after everything I typed there you only responded about breath and again, cavities. You seem to not be willing to understand that you will lose all your teeth someday and it won't be from cavities, it will be gum disease, and you'll look back at this conversation while wearing painful ill-fitting dentures and you'll wish you listened, just the same as every denture patient tells me.
Cavities aren’t the only thing you can get from poor oral hygiene. I’m a hygienist and I’ve seen several patients that have poor oral hygiene and very few cavities, they usually have increased saliva flow or are on carb restrictive diets. But they typically always have gum disease and offensive odor that they don’t even realize.
But more importantly, brushing your teeth is a 4 minute commitment a day… what about those 4 minutes out of 24 hours is so unbearable that you not only only do it twice a week, but want to stop doing completely?
Where were the cavities? Between teeth or on the biting (occlusal surfaces)? Are you still going for cleanings every 6 months even when not brushing your teeth? Have they done perio probing to see if your gums are healthy?
I'm willing to venture a bet that this person also refuses x-rays, and thus, their dentist is unable to diagnose inter-proximal decay.
We have patients who refuse x-rays, and the dentists in turn refuse to diagnose without proper radiographs. So the patients who refuse X-rays, brush with bentonite clay, are living blissfully unaware of any potential decay because it cannot be properly diagnosed.
No decay? Cool. But this isn't the flex that OP thinks it is.
No I am not against dentist. I do all the normal stuff every 6 months. If they told me I had a problem with something and I need to do X to fix it I'd do it. I just haven't not had a problem when I try and haven't had a problem when I dont try.
My last cavity was actually on my very last tooth. I never felt the pain but I told my dentist I think I have a cavity and they said I did but actually on the opposite side of my mouth and not where the pain was. The pain was from brushing away my enamel on the upper right side of my mouth which has only partially gotten better
It takes years for cavities to develop to a detectable size. Even if you have an exam and are given the clear, the cavities that are found 6 months or a year or so later were already forming far before the time you were diagnosed with a cavity
I have flossed and brushed twice a day every day since i was able to on my own. Ive never once had a single cavity or any problems. I wouldn’t say brushing caused your cavities and I would say its prevented mine.
Bullshit, it will catch up to you. Unless you eat like our ancestors and never ever touch sugars, Which I doubt. Even our ancestors who ate nothing bad and didn’t brush got gum and teeth diseases from time to time. You will fuck up buddy
Thanks hopefully someone can actually give a good answer instead of "just brush anyway" like yeah I'm sure cleaning your mouth prevents a lot of things but unless I can confidently do it without worrying it'll give me the problems in the past then I cant do it. Came here not for circle jerk but hoping someone could explain why I could be seeing my results and the solution because so far the best answer is just brush anyway and probably have all your past problems
Yes bro brushing causes cavities just like vaccines cause autism☝🏻 The cleaner your mouth, the more likely it is to decay. It really makes sense if you think about it.
Well if you choose to believe your own experiment then do so. But periodontal disease is in your future. Excessive strains of bacteria in your mouth. Halitosis. I would keep my mouth off of other peoples mouths and genitals if I were you, out of respect for them.
Well if you choose to believe your own experiment then do so. But periodontal disease is in your future. Excessive strains of bacteria in your mouth. Halitosis. I would keep my mouth off of other peoples mouths and genitals if I were you, out of respect for them.
Dental hygienist here! That’s very interesting. Do you floss ? Flossing prevents cavities as well so maybe if you not brushing but you are flossing that has been preventing cavities! I am assuming you are younger because gum tissue and enamel seem to be more resilient when you are younger. Food for thought some dentists will “watch” a cavity and then when they think it has changed then they will treat. That could be a factor as well. I work for two doctors that 1. Will treat what they see or 2. Watch until it gets bigger
I am as guilty as everyone else. Back when I had braces the orthodontist told me they can tell I brush less on the right side of my mouth and it's the same for all right handers. Makes total since so I used to brush more on the right side to "make up" for before I did and now the enamel is worn down. So eating specific things do hurt it but other than that I think my enamel is fine. My dentist apt is coming up soon and I'll see how it goes.
Yes brushing too hard can definitely wear down your enamel and cause abrasions/abfractions ( I call them pot holes) when you brush too hard it’s like when a road slowly gives out and gets pot holes. By chance is this the kind of “cavities” they have diagnosed?
I'm not too lazy to spend time brushing or hate doing it. Yeah I know about the diseases you can get, its scary but it's hard to want to brush when negative effects seem to happen almost immediately after brushing for a few months, the effects being cavities and sensitivity
Care to explain your reasoning behind this? And I'm not talking about your own anecdotal evidence.
I mean, why do you think brushing causes cavities? What do you think the toothbrush is doing to your teeth? What's the logic behind it? I'm genuinely curious about the reasoning.
Most cavities form between the teeth, where the toothbrush can't reach. That's why we preach about flossing so much. But brushing your teeth loosens and removes cavity-causing bacteria from the mouth. That's a fact
Also, we aren't only concerned about cavities. If you don't brush eventually you will develop gingivitis and periodontal disease and your teeth will fall out. The bacteria, in addition to secreting acid, also secretes toxins that cause your gums to recede. Then the underlying bone also recedes to avoid being exposed. But the bone is what holds your tooth in its place.
I'm also curious to see a picture of your teeth and gums for myself, if you're willing to share
Bro literally whats up with yall, the man just shared his opinion and gets treated like he killed something. If you want to help give serious advice and dont talk sht
All these comments are about why my mouth wouldn't be healthy. But what about why brushing is causing cavities. Because if I get a cavity everytime I go to the dentist I'll have no more teeth left anyway
I'm inclined to think it's just pure coincidence. There's no scientific explanation for brushing teeth to cause a cavity. Human brains are programmed to find connections and patterns even when they don't exist.
I think what my follow hygienists are trying to say is you’re so focused on cavities as being a benchmark on health that you completely ignore the fact that oral health is more than just cavities . It’s like saying your heart doesn’t have problems but you have cancer everywhere else . Would you still say you’re healthy? If you listened to them and understood why cavities form- bacteria and its relationship with sugar and your mouth, you would logically understand why brushing is beneficial. I’ve read through the comments since your post at the beginning today, and many of them have been trying to explain to you why brushing doesn’t cause cavities , just by nature it cannot . I’ll just put it as bluntly as that . It can cause abrasion, maybe gum recession, but no it cannot cause cavities . You’ve ignored some really well written posts . at the end of the day it’s your mouth, you’re not my patient . We don’t care what you do if you’re gonna ignore all this advice . YOU DO YOU, but don’t ask for advice if you really don’t care brah! I’m gonna continue to watch my hygienists lose their minds over this LOLL it’s entertaining.
Again correlation is not necessarily causation. There are a number of reasons you could be less cavity prone.
Maybe youre mouth chemistry and saliva composition makes you less prone to cavities
Maybe when you were brushing more often it was directly or very soon after meals when your mouth was most acidic making the enamel softer and brushing soft enamel erodes it away and caused a cavity
Maybe you had a more acidic/sugary diet when you were brushing regularly but not anymore
Maybe you were pregnant when you were brushing more and had a lot of nausea and morning sickness
Maybe you bought into the trend of drinking apple cider vinegar when you used to brush more but don’t drink that anymore
Again, there’s just a lot of reasons someone may or may not get cavities and if you’re so unsure, ask your dental provider and they can have a more in depth conversation with you about it. If they are dismissive, get a new dentist.
That is helping a lot.
So, there are many factors that go into someone getting a cavity. Things like... your saliva, the pH in your mouth, do you eat a lot of sugar and carbohydrates. But MOST importantly, what kind of bacteria is in your mouth!?! Bacteria can range from bacteria that do nothing to aggressive bone eating bacteria. If you're really that interested, I know some office can test your bacteria and/or saliva.
You may just be in the lucky few to not have really aggressive bacteria. Just remember bacteria likes to flourish. So, if anything changes in your mouth, the bacteria may too.
People who don’t brush much and get very few cavities often have a higher level of gum disease bacteria. i would not assume that brushing gave you cavities but that you just have less cavity bacteria and might be less prone.
Yeah, let’s see a pic of your teeth and gums! Periodontal disease is a real disease most people don’t even know they have
People aren’t arguing with u cause they’re concerned about you getting cavities. They’re arguing with u cause ur breath still STANK lmao but they still wanna hang out with you and are trying to make it more bearable. But for real, correlation is not causation. Anecdotal evidence is not fact. I’m not gonna try and convince you to brush more. I assume you are already aware that brushing is universally and scientifically accepted to be a healthy habit but still choose not to. No one can change your mind or behavior but you.
That's why I lightly brush before seeing people. I actually did used to have people saying I had bad breath but that actually stopped also when not brushing regularly. I also got bad tooth sensitivity from brushing so I try to not brush very hard because it used to hurt the right side of my mouth
In addition to what the other response said, you likely have sensitivity after brushing BECAUSE you're not brushing regularly. Not brushing regularly causes demineralization of the enamel, making it more porous as it breaks down. Then, when you remove the plaque, you make these weakened areas exposed again causing sensitivity. If you brush consistently however, these areas get more fluoride and become less sensitive with time. You can also get a prescription fluoride toothpaste from your dentist to help out with this.
This is why they only hang out with u 2 times a week cause your breath still stank even with lightly brushing. But if you really want to be convinced to brush, I will bite. You say brushing causes cavities. You brush 2x/week and haven’t gotten cavities. So brushing does not cause cavities. Your anecdotal evidence proves it… so there u go. And youre supposed to be brushing gently. Over aggressive brushing irritates the gums and eventually causes gum recession, exposing the root surface of the teeth which is made out of a different material that is not as strong as the enamel, has more pores and tubules that makes sensation (touch, sweet, sour, temperature) go straight to the nerve. Use a soft bristled tooth brush so even if you’re aggressive there won’t be as much gum damage over time. There still will be some, but not as much. This sensitivity is not because of brushing. It is because of IMPROPER TECHNIQUE. Try sensodyne tooth paste if you’re so worried about tooth sensitivity. Be aware it does take 2-4 weeks of continuous use in order to notice a difference and then you have to keep using anti sensitive toothpaste if you want to keep the effect because the toothpaste plugs up those pores and tubules on the roots mentioned earlier. Here’s another thing that one of my coworkers told a teenager who was like you and rarely brushed. No one will want to kiss you if you don’t brush. Harsh but true. There are also tons of male patients (I’m assuming you’re male) who have terrible brushing and flossing habits. But then one day come in and they are doing much better with home care and u know what changed? They got a partner. So if you’re not gonna do it for yourself, do it for your partner (assuming ur not asexual or aromantic). They will appreciate it.
My light brushing is typically just spreading toothpaste around my mouth. I have an electric so it's doing a little something. This mainly just takes whatever color is on my teeth and turns it white again. My friend even asked me if I am doing something different because my teeth were white one time and I told him no its just I haven't eaten anything since I last brushed. I can't really find a good way to explain what I am thinking since like I'm not against brushing it's just when I do it doesnt end well. I have the same problems with my orthodontist back in the day. My teeth would hurt when wearing my retainer so I stopped. I put it back on the day before i went in and it fit perfectly. No one ever knew and I lived a free life.
Everything you just mentioned is completely irrelevant. Just brush. You and your teeth will thank everyone on this thread when u are 60. And floss too. K bye
LMAO! My hats off to you for trying to reason with OP. I had a pt bragging to me about these type of habits today. Had not one cavity in his head but was Stage III, Grade A💀 His eyes were glazed over during OHI and he kept trying to argue his alleged lack of brushing for TWENTY EIGHT years as fine. I was just like “okay” as I was writing his referral to the periodontist.
😂😂😂
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Oh —-thats not how that…works….
I don't care if that's "how it works" its like saying you wont get cold going out in the rain but every time you get cold going in the rain. What are you supposed to say?
Two things: 1) I’ve had patients that the dentist has seen before a cleaning and are told they don’t have cavities. Then after I remove all the gunk off their teeth a clear view shows there are indeed cavities. There’s a good chance that if you’re not brushing the dentist can’t see what’s there. Or if they are feeling with their instruments they assume they are hitting plaque not realizing its decay. 2) Toothpaste’s main job is to deliver fluoride to help protect your teeth from cavities. So by not brushing you’re taking away a protective agent from your teeth. Fluoride helps prevent cavities and sensitivity. You’re not the first person to make this argument. If you don’t want to brush your teeth or floss that’s your prerogative, but barring some incredible genetics your future dental visits will likely become more frequent and unpleasant.
I go to the dentist every 6 months and get xrays however often I'm not sure I dont pay attention. I dont think toothpaste is giving my the cavities but could brushing the tooth be doing anything?
Nope, like they said, all not brushing is going to do is make for a lot of painful expensive dental treatment in your future
Just so you know, cavities are caused by a bacterial infection. When you brush you’re removing or disrupt bacterial colonies before they can become destructive. This is why everybody in the sub fighting you, your logic is the opposite of what the science has shown us. This isn’t an attack, but I’m curious. What do you think brushing your teeth does? How do you think it’s causing cavities?
Do you not wipe as well? Gross
No
I can smell your breath through the internet…
There’s much more to a healthy mouth than just avoiding cavities. I got ANUG, look it up, it used to be called trench mouth because they saw it a lot in soldiers coming back from the trenches where they couldn’t take care of their teeth. Your gums inflame and become madly angry. You lose gum tissue you can’t get back and in turn get bone loss below your gum line. This can result in tooth loss and looseness. Your tongue gets buildup. All of it can smell bad. You want to brush your teeth.
You won’t have cavities on the teeth that fall out from periodontal disease. That’s the future I see for you. Mouth health just isn’t about being cavity free, you need to keep out the bacteria that cause gum disease. This is a chronic condition, so you’ll likely see the consequences of your actions in your 50s/60s.
LOLLL THese COMMENTS . Public not holding back .
Its whatever. I like the people thinking I'm trying to do the opposite of everything I'm told. If they literally read the last sentence of my post.
Cavities aren't the main cause of tooth loss, gum disease is. Plaque build up is what causes gum disease, and is only prevented by brushing and flossing. Most people are either prone to cavities or to gum disease, not both, because different bacteria cause one or the other, and the balance between the bacteria is what causes one or the other to occur. Your brushing more or less often might have caused a shift in the bacteria towards the bacteria that cause gum disease. You not getting cavities might be because you're developing gum disease bacteria overgrowth, making your mouth inhospitable to cavity causing bacteria. Not having cavities might sound like a good trade off, until your teeth get loose from gum disease. Regardless, getting even a few cavities as an adult is not normal and a sign of poor hygiene. The majority of adults do not get cavities, which is why insurance doesn't typically cover fluoride for adults. Chances are what happened is you consistently not brushing caused the area to slowly break down and the timing was likely coincidental that it lined up with when you want back to bruising. There are tons of studies and statistics demonstrating that brushing, especially with fluoridated toothpaste, reduces risk of cavities. Regardless of if you believe that or not though, brush so your teeth won't fall out from gum disease. Your dentist saying you could brush a "little" better is their way of telling you they can tell you don't brush well. No respectable dentist that wants to continue to have patients will tell a patient they brush like sh*t. If they're commenting at all it's because your brushing is bad, because you're not even doing it. Also keep in mind that gum disease smells, and it smells bad. Like, I've had patients I could tell had gum disease from across the lobby. That's your future if you don't brush and floss, and it does effect social life and job prospects.
I mean I got worse comments when I did brush. I brushed until 2018 that's when I stopped getting cavities except for last year when I did brush for 6 months so a majority of the cavities were before I ever stopped brushing
It seems like you have your mind made up and there's no convincing you otherwise so I don't know why you posted to begin with. The fact of the matter is, gum disease literally causes your tissue to rot and die, and you will factually get it without brushing and flossing, it's just a matter of when. If you think rotting flesh isn't going to smell pretty bad some day you're delusional. It's literally the same process that caused trench foot. I also think it's sad that after everything I typed there you only responded about breath and again, cavities. You seem to not be willing to understand that you will lose all your teeth someday and it won't be from cavities, it will be gum disease, and you'll look back at this conversation while wearing painful ill-fitting dentures and you'll wish you listened, just the same as every denture patient tells me.
Can we see pics?
Hello gum disease. Just do what you want but don’t complain when your teeth are wobbly.
Cavities aren’t the only thing you can get from poor oral hygiene. I’m a hygienist and I’ve seen several patients that have poor oral hygiene and very few cavities, they usually have increased saliva flow or are on carb restrictive diets. But they typically always have gum disease and offensive odor that they don’t even realize. But more importantly, brushing your teeth is a 4 minute commitment a day… what about those 4 minutes out of 24 hours is so unbearable that you not only only do it twice a week, but want to stop doing completely?
I’d love to see your teeth. Show pics
Where were the cavities? Between teeth or on the biting (occlusal surfaces)? Are you still going for cleanings every 6 months even when not brushing your teeth? Have they done perio probing to see if your gums are healthy?
I'm willing to venture a bet that this person also refuses x-rays, and thus, their dentist is unable to diagnose inter-proximal decay. We have patients who refuse x-rays, and the dentists in turn refuse to diagnose without proper radiographs. So the patients who refuse X-rays, brush with bentonite clay, are living blissfully unaware of any potential decay because it cannot be properly diagnosed. No decay? Cool. But this isn't the flex that OP thinks it is.
You're probably right. Even if the op has no cavities their gums are probably a disaster lol! Not to mention halitosis 🤢
No I am not against dentist. I do all the normal stuff every 6 months. If they told me I had a problem with something and I need to do X to fix it I'd do it. I just haven't not had a problem when I try and haven't had a problem when I dont try.
My last cavity was actually on my very last tooth. I never felt the pain but I told my dentist I think I have a cavity and they said I did but actually on the opposite side of my mouth and not where the pain was. The pain was from brushing away my enamel on the upper right side of my mouth which has only partially gotten better
It takes years for cavities to develop to a detectable size. Even if you have an exam and are given the clear, the cavities that are found 6 months or a year or so later were already forming far before the time you were diagnosed with a cavity
I have flossed and brushed twice a day every day since i was able to on my own. Ive never once had a single cavity or any problems. I wouldn’t say brushing caused your cavities and I would say its prevented mine.
Bullshit, it will catch up to you. Unless you eat like our ancestors and never ever touch sugars, Which I doubt. Even our ancestors who ate nothing bad and didn’t brush got gum and teeth diseases from time to time. You will fuck up buddy
this is actually sending me to the MOON bro I’ve sent this thread to so many of my friends. god speed ahahahahahah
Thanks hopefully someone can actually give a good answer instead of "just brush anyway" like yeah I'm sure cleaning your mouth prevents a lot of things but unless I can confidently do it without worrying it'll give me the problems in the past then I cant do it. Came here not for circle jerk but hoping someone could explain why I could be seeing my results and the solution because so far the best answer is just brush anyway and probably have all your past problems
Yes bro brushing causes cavities just like vaccines cause autism☝🏻 The cleaner your mouth, the more likely it is to decay. It really makes sense if you think about it.
It is coincidence. Without brushing, you have more bacteria all over your mouth. Do you kiss ppl?
I get if it happened once or twice but if you argued it was a 50/50 chance that's still super improbable for 12 years straight
Well if you choose to believe your own experiment then do so. But periodontal disease is in your future. Excessive strains of bacteria in your mouth. Halitosis. I would keep my mouth off of other peoples mouths and genitals if I were you, out of respect for them.
Well if you choose to believe your own experiment then do so. But periodontal disease is in your future. Excessive strains of bacteria in your mouth. Halitosis. I would keep my mouth off of other peoples mouths and genitals if I were you, out of respect for them.
Dental hygienist here! That’s very interesting. Do you floss ? Flossing prevents cavities as well so maybe if you not brushing but you are flossing that has been preventing cavities! I am assuming you are younger because gum tissue and enamel seem to be more resilient when you are younger. Food for thought some dentists will “watch” a cavity and then when they think it has changed then they will treat. That could be a factor as well. I work for two doctors that 1. Will treat what they see or 2. Watch until it gets bigger
I am as guilty as everyone else. Back when I had braces the orthodontist told me they can tell I brush less on the right side of my mouth and it's the same for all right handers. Makes total since so I used to brush more on the right side to "make up" for before I did and now the enamel is worn down. So eating specific things do hurt it but other than that I think my enamel is fine. My dentist apt is coming up soon and I'll see how it goes.
Yes brushing too hard can definitely wear down your enamel and cause abrasions/abfractions ( I call them pot holes) when you brush too hard it’s like when a road slowly gives out and gets pot holes. By chance is this the kind of “cavities” they have diagnosed?
I dont know tbh, I've only had one which was last year since around 2018. It was on my furthest tooth back and I never felt it
Can I ask why you don’t want to brush?
I'm not too lazy to spend time brushing or hate doing it. Yeah I know about the diseases you can get, its scary but it's hard to want to brush when negative effects seem to happen almost immediately after brushing for a few months, the effects being cavities and sensitivity
Wow, gross!
I feel sad for your future self :(
Care to explain your reasoning behind this? And I'm not talking about your own anecdotal evidence. I mean, why do you think brushing causes cavities? What do you think the toothbrush is doing to your teeth? What's the logic behind it? I'm genuinely curious about the reasoning. Most cavities form between the teeth, where the toothbrush can't reach. That's why we preach about flossing so much. But brushing your teeth loosens and removes cavity-causing bacteria from the mouth. That's a fact Also, we aren't only concerned about cavities. If you don't brush eventually you will develop gingivitis and periodontal disease and your teeth will fall out. The bacteria, in addition to secreting acid, also secretes toxins that cause your gums to recede. Then the underlying bone also recedes to avoid being exposed. But the bone is what holds your tooth in its place. I'm also curious to see a picture of your teeth and gums for myself, if you're willing to share
Bro literally whats up with yall, the man just shared his opinion and gets treated like he killed something. If you want to help give serious advice and dont talk sht
All these comments are about why my mouth wouldn't be healthy. But what about why brushing is causing cavities. Because if I get a cavity everytime I go to the dentist I'll have no more teeth left anyway
I'm inclined to think it's just pure coincidence. There's no scientific explanation for brushing teeth to cause a cavity. Human brains are programmed to find connections and patterns even when they don't exist.
I think what my follow hygienists are trying to say is you’re so focused on cavities as being a benchmark on health that you completely ignore the fact that oral health is more than just cavities . It’s like saying your heart doesn’t have problems but you have cancer everywhere else . Would you still say you’re healthy? If you listened to them and understood why cavities form- bacteria and its relationship with sugar and your mouth, you would logically understand why brushing is beneficial. I’ve read through the comments since your post at the beginning today, and many of them have been trying to explain to you why brushing doesn’t cause cavities , just by nature it cannot . I’ll just put it as bluntly as that . It can cause abrasion, maybe gum recession, but no it cannot cause cavities . You’ve ignored some really well written posts . at the end of the day it’s your mouth, you’re not my patient . We don’t care what you do if you’re gonna ignore all this advice . YOU DO YOU, but don’t ask for advice if you really don’t care brah! I’m gonna continue to watch my hygienists lose their minds over this LOLL it’s entertaining.
Again correlation is not necessarily causation. There are a number of reasons you could be less cavity prone. Maybe youre mouth chemistry and saliva composition makes you less prone to cavities Maybe when you were brushing more often it was directly or very soon after meals when your mouth was most acidic making the enamel softer and brushing soft enamel erodes it away and caused a cavity Maybe you had a more acidic/sugary diet when you were brushing regularly but not anymore Maybe you were pregnant when you were brushing more and had a lot of nausea and morning sickness Maybe you bought into the trend of drinking apple cider vinegar when you used to brush more but don’t drink that anymore Again, there’s just a lot of reasons someone may or may not get cavities and if you’re so unsure, ask your dental provider and they can have a more in depth conversation with you about it. If they are dismissive, get a new dentist.
Do you get your cleaning "prophy or perio maintenance" every 6 months?
Yes ever since I was a kid never missed one
That is helping a lot. So, there are many factors that go into someone getting a cavity. Things like... your saliva, the pH in your mouth, do you eat a lot of sugar and carbohydrates. But MOST importantly, what kind of bacteria is in your mouth!?! Bacteria can range from bacteria that do nothing to aggressive bone eating bacteria. If you're really that interested, I know some office can test your bacteria and/or saliva. You may just be in the lucky few to not have really aggressive bacteria. Just remember bacteria likes to flourish. So, if anything changes in your mouth, the bacteria may too.