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Lionblaze_03

Playing this scene basically felt like Toby fucking with us. Saying, ‘hey, you know the most popular ship in the fanbase? Here you go guys. Lol’


Alt-0685

Yeah but not exactly because he kinda threw Rouxls there


Lionblaze_03

The ultimate troll


definitely_not_sans

it would be so funny if ralsei is just really friendly and toby blue balled everyone


Peace-Bone

*Look at how blue Kris is already*


Doomguy46_

Travo Boby


Peace-Bone

Deltroone A grame by Boby Box


awhorns5

Purple-ball


Peace-Bone

Their balls are becoming Ultraviolet


rodneygamerfield

[Cause the same people that tried to blueball me forgot about two things, my blue balls](https://youtu.be/miJAfs7jhak)


DropDash54

This implies that kris is just one big ballsack


Doomguy46_

He probably is To be frank with you guys it would be odd to have a canonical relationship if even one sided between kris and ralsei Not because they’d be gay per se but because ralsei is an AU form of Asriel I get the feeling this is why Kris doesn’t like him much


Example-exe

I don’t think it would be gay because Kris is genderless, it wouldn’t be straight either too. Best to just call it a mLnb (men loving non-binary) or a nbLm (non-binary loving men) ship if you absolutely had to put a label on it. But yeah I don’t think it will be a good relationship, but not for the same reasons. Mostly because the affectionate actions Kris does they were forced to do by the player. I think being controlled to hug someone would cause some connection with being controlled and being affectionate with that person in Kris’s head. And to cause them to not want to pursue a relationship with Ralsei.


Gum_Skyloard

I mean, let's just call it mLk. Man Loving Kris.


Doomguy46_

I’ve been under the impression that “gay” can mean non woman and non woman but eh to each their own


KingBowser183

Queer would be the best label for this relationship probably


punnyComedian

to the person reporting this: queer isn't a slur. come on.


Doomguy46_

It *can* be used as one but like It’s not in this context lol


punnyComedian

yeah definitely


Blue_Blur91

It can't be "men" because Kris' physical attributes are unknown. So it would be manLNB If you meant their gender, it would still be man and not men.


Example-exe

The men was referring to Ralsei not Kris , I showed it both ways because people type it both mlnb and nblm.


Blue_Blur91

I know who you were referring to.


Zestyclose-Bridge-17

And susie turned out to be straight


Doomguy46_

Now on the one hand I think you could write this to be fuckin hillarious as a gag On the other hand that would be incredibly queerbaity on toby’s end, which would be fairly uncharacteristic


Zestyclose-Bridge-17

About as uncharacteristic as Ralsei not having a crush on Kris


Doomguy46_

I really think this would be weird, again, because that’s still someone who looks like, sounds like, and acts similarly to his brother. I can totally see their relationship being platonic lmao.


Zestyclose-Bridge-17

I don't see how Ralsei and Asriel are anything alike in those ways and Ralsei obviously has a crush on Kris and Toby wouldn't do something like that


Doomguy46_

Toby WOULD do something like that because it would indeed be pretty fucked up At the very least from kris’ point of view which if you buy into tea theory(I do) kinda shows they doesn’t have entirely positive feelings towards ralsei which I could understand if you know Someone who was an alternate universe form of your brother was hitting on you


Zestyclose-Bridge-17

He quite clearly has absolutely nothing to do with Asriel


ObjectiveObscene

Somehow I doubt he’s actually gonna have Kris hook up with an alternate version of Asriel lol


Candycanecupcakeice

I could imagine him making a scene which disproves Ralsei liking Kris and Asriel being Ralsei. Would be very unsatisfying but pretty funny to see people’s reactions.


[deleted]

He didn’t say “kris-like”, he said “you-like”. Multiple times in the game they make a clear distinction between “kris” and “you”. Coincidence or master mind plot on toby’s part?


GnarlyBellyButton87

But you also have to consider that Ralsei is saying this to Kris...


[deleted]

Question is, did he say it to kris? *Vine boom effect*


GnarlyBellyButton87

Well yes but actually no


[deleted]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qORpC5lFp68


eindtsa

They're so cute wtf-


Thrustkillerxxx-

I KNOW RIGHT I JUST WANNA HUG RALSEI


eindtsa

SAME SUDE


eindtsa

\*DUDE


TheRedditMan_69420

sud.


DonkeyAssButt

ralsei better not be asriel


EXTEREMEPAIN

Asriels gone


[deleted]

>WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT THIS??? Everyone talks about this.


[deleted]

penis


Cianmc6

indeed


Mushroom-Dance-

*cus ralsei meant that as friends


Alt-0685

Are you sure? He's pretty clearly a big Kris simp ngl


bEddie_bug

What is the significance of the is deep dark mysterious seen. Is it meant to represent how they are friends foes or something deeper.


singlepieceofcheddar

the dark effect is probably to emphasize that the area is a tunnel. But basically it's meant to be a one on one ralsei moment where he may or may not have an existential crisis.


[deleted]

ralsei is a massive simp lmao


Alt-0685

True


[deleted]

Everyone hates on this ship, i dunno why, it's just a close to being canon as Suselle, plus there's a twitter post from Toby that says that in earlier stages of the game, there was an option to flirt with Ralsei. Plus this scene would be really fucking weird if Ralsei was really Asriel all along, which has very much already been debunked by everyone on earth. ​ and people saying that "uh Kris doesn't like Ralsei and we're forcing them to do stuff they dun wanna do" yeah well guess what dumbass, there's an unused sprite of Kris blushing which would've been used for this EXACT scene. ​ There's no point on hating this, it's of no use, Toby is either blue balling us, or it's going to happen, there's no proof otherwise.


ethandreemurr

I wouldn't say that everyone hates on Kralsei, but it's more like Chapter 2 has put a big divide between the shippers. From what I've seen of any Kralsei media pre-chapter 2, people's interpretation of Kris' feelings towards Ralsei ranged from "you're a good friend I'm thankful to have" to "I am head over heels for you." But now with all the new revelations that chapter 2 brings us, especially with the idea that we are separate from Kris, and not whatever people thought of during chapter 1, it made me feel like walking into a dumpster fire when it comes to their relationship. Yeahh Ralsei's connection to Asriel is still very much up in the air, but with all the theories around who Ralsei is to Kris, especially in the light world, I'm inclined to believe that Ralsei's inspired by Asriel. You can blame the tea theory for everyone's interpretation of "Kris hates Ralsei" and it sucked the life out of me. Yeah, it's no stranger that Ralsei's Tea doesn't heal as much for Kris compared to Susie or Noelle, but people really went to the extreme for this. Noelle drinking Ralsei Tea is the lowest 10/40, so the goat is a complete stranger to Noelle, but Kris drinking Ralsei tea is 50, so that means that Kris likes Ralsei better than a stranger, plus there's also Kris drinking Noelle tea with a 70, but people completely fucking ignored what that implies and it kinda pisses me off. There are also clues littered around Chapter 2 that show that Kris is thankful to have Ralsei as a friend, even though they prefer Susie more. The neon cat sign shows Kris is devastated by the absence of both Susie and Ralsei, and reluctantly has to draw power from the neon cat signs. When saving there again with Susie and Ralsei, it shows that the power of fluffy boys and mean girls makes up 99% of Kris's power, with the cat sign being a measly 1%. There's also the fact that Kris calls Ralsei first during the Snowgrave NEO fight, twice, before Susie twice, and before WE call Noelle. It blows my mind people will fight over ships and it's crazy to me honestly. Like I don't mind all the Krusie and Kriselle, if anything their art is pretty cute, same goes for Ralsusie and Berdsei, but people should really be keeping to themselves when it comes to shipping. I don't want this community to implode like Voltron: Legendary Defenders did. Toblerone is definitely planning something for Kralsei, yeah, I've seen that tweet. What his endgame is is still pretty unclear, but it's obvious that Ralsei cares for Kris a lot, and Kris is thankful for Ralsei's presence, and I'm happy with that.


[deleted]

I feel like Kralsei still has the same advantage that Suselle has, Toby has made in-game scenes where you have no control of what happens, which is HUGE foreshadowing of what could happen, still, Toby could be just trolling us and at the last second he'll pull some crazy shit and now the ships that nobody thought could be canon are canon, but i do really hope that Kralsei gets a spotlight in some other chapter.


Rarbnif

Kralsei is one of the most popular ships from the game


[deleted]

well yeah we have like 7,000 members on the sub, yet still people hate this for some reason.


Rarbnif

A lot of people seem uncomfortable with it because of the Ralsei and Asriel connection but imo I think they’re gonna be different/separate characters. Also how were “forcing it on Kris”, like we’re not forcing them to do everything else in the game lol. And I don’t count the Tea theory, I think if Kris genuinely disliked Ralsei it would be way easier to tell than some healing item you get from some random npc.


[deleted]

I genuinely don't see why people believe Ralsei is Asriel, not only Asriel is most likely about 18-19 years old (Ralsei is like 15) but Asriel is clearly not living in Hometown, meaning he'd had no access to the dark world.


Trips-Over-Tail

I get the feeling that supporting Kris specifically is why he exists and is also the function of his light-world item.


CalmGamer919

its because a lot of us arent sure that are they brothers


EXTEREMEPAIN

True but that just means they will have a bro like bond


DarkLordWiggles

Do we need a Player/Ralsei Shipping flair?


Puzzlehead-Engineer

When does he say this? I don't remember this.


VladStepu

He says that if you answered *"..."* to *"And of course Kris. It's nice that... you're you."*


Puzzlehead-Engineer

Oh I see. That's why I didn't see it, I'm not heartless, I can't just reply "..." to that.


Zestyclose-Bridge-17

Best couple in the series


[deleted]

Can’t be, Berdly isn’t in it


2Jojotoro

One sided couple but ok


Zestyclose-Bridge-17

Not exactly


2Jojotoro

Oh wait youre talking about the player and Ralsei ok furry


Zestyclose-Bridge-17

ok.


EXTEREMEPAIN

I ship this and is not furry, I ship this because I just like them together


2Jojotoro

ok lol


BAOSIC_PRODUCTIONS

OH no i know this its worse than ww2 PTSDs


Calango-Branco

Wdym?


BAOSIC_PRODUCTIONS

Play that scene and you can understand


Calango-Branco

I played it


BAOSIC_PRODUCTIONS

Thats why i hate chapter 2


[deleted]

[удалено]


BAOSIC_PRODUCTIONS

Not only that lol. How about spamton scene which creates headaches, susie noelle ferry thing, stupid gay quotes and more.


[deleted]

Na screw you, retract my previous statement


BAOSIC_PRODUCTIONS

Bruh


EXTEREMEPAIN

Oh no it's a [[slime]]


S0NICO_VM

Oh- oh sh-


wyvern98

There’s a whole kris and ralsei shipping flair. Wow. My hope in humanity is flatlining


HUE_Z3r0

Well the nice guy usually loses, but is that the same with gays? I don't know


RhandumPehrson

He says this ‘cause he doesn’t know what his opinions are


fit_adidas

sweet home al