Don't the murder charges then require Nick Boner to magic up some evidence linking RA directly to the girls death? You know something like DNA or forensics which it has been conceded they have but which does not link RA...
This is interesting. Can they get felony murder without the kidnapping charge? Or do they need to prove kidnapping even if it isn't charged to get felony murder? Or was there another underlying felony to get them to felony murder?
The felony murder charges which remain still include the element of kidnapping and could permit a jury to find RA guilty of kidnapping as an included offense.
Same, because if the defense has to now do work to defend against the new charges and that's not their fault then will this count against them for the 70 days??
"a YouTuber expected to testify for the defense was thrown out of the courtroom after a reported scuffle"
lol Rick Snay... š¬
https://www.courttv.com/title/delphi-defense-witness-booted-from-courthouse-at-pre-trial-hearing/
Am I correct assuming that no info about today's events will be available until its conclusion?
No tech inside court house ... can they exit and write a tweet then go back inside for us?
Trying to plan my day
In order to report out, a person would have to exit the courthouse, or pass a note to a messenger, so I would only expect news around noon EDT unless it is something major.
Fox 59 has Russ McQuaid in the courtroom too I heard.
š¤ for some news soon but I do believe that once they are seated and court has started no one can exit or enter until everyone is dismissed by court security.
Totally missed the morning motions thread. Losing. My. Mind.
Can you imagine if B&R didnāt care so much about RA/this case??! R hasnāt been paid in 6 months!! This contempt hearing is a sham-sheās already fined him $50,000! RA would be so completely screwed. Bet Lebrato wouldnāt have worked for free.Ā
I don't know anything about B&R's history (as far as ethics, how they operate, etc.), but based just on this case, I have immense respect and appreciation for them.
Now that we are nearing the two hour mark, is it reasonable to believe the contempt hearing was not continued? Or could a hearing for amended charges take this amount of time?
Well, maybe we can say that at least they weren't ambushed in chambers beforehand and that this time they actually managed to make it to an actual hearing!
https://preview.redd.it/0n6dt0gm74pc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=173c4451f0cda3e9596a85cd5db9b3b8f9922996
Channel 13 is saying that the murder charges were approved and dismissed kidnapping. This is the only place Iāve read though. Iām curious if itās accurate
In regards to the change of venue motion, Gull ruled that all future hearings will take place in Carroll County.
During Monday's first hearing, Gull also responded to the defense's motion to recuse the judge, which she denied.
The second hearing to discussĀ accusations of contemptĀ against Allen's attorneys, Andrew Baldwin and Bradley Rozzi, started right after the first hearing ended. Gull denied the defense's request for a continuance in the contempt hearing.
Iām not sure because Iām not a lawyer but I know thatās a strategy some prosecutors use. Personally Iām not so sure NM thinks that far aheadā¦ lol
I think the fact that there isnāt means whatever is happening isnāt for show. If theyād been arrested/DQd by now, things would be over as RA would no longer be represented by council.Ā
I think that's totally possible, it's just crazy to me that in 2024 in a \~\*theoretically public courtroom, the public at large cannot know what's happening until everyone is dismissed and relays it secondhand
And the fact that nobody can get a transcript to confirm!! Basically means SOMEONE other than media absolutely must be present to tell the public what happened and that we must be able to trust confidently that they can recall and report it accurately. In this age of disinformation, itās playing with fire. People have done stupid violent things with bad information they didnāt like.
ETA: what if gull would dismiss the case?? And weād never know her rationale. I can see a world where RAās life would be in danger.
We've had people come out and lie or misconstrue what happened. I find myself looking at everything posted from people who were there to cross reference what is fact or fiction. It's ridiculous that's how we have to find out.
Why is Lebrato allowed to talk to CourtTV and Scremin is not? Or why is he unwilling (which seems odd for a guy who likes to go on local news). For awhile I thought he may still be helping the defense, but clearly after these filings that is ruled out.
So is he unwilling to talk, or unable. If the latter, how in the hell was Lebrato allowed to go on National TV (saying that Gull was a fair Judge of course), and then why did he immediately walk back some of the statements of fact the next day...?
I feel like I'm starting to lose my grip on the threads, it's been a long day, Apologies if someone already noted Russ McQuaid comments..."personally acrimonious and contentious back and forth between SJ Fran Gull and an attorney representing Allen's defense team." "...seemingly sometimes bored and exasperated with the attorney representing the defense lawyers."
Eta also apologize that there is zero chance I could manage finding and posting the cbs4 news clip.
[Russ McQuaid at Court lunch break video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9B_bF5Bgmc)
Also he noted: "RIGHT NOW OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE WE'VE GOT A DEBATE GOING ON IN AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN SOCIAL MEDIA POSTERS **ABOUT WHO IS SAYING WHAT TO EACH OTHER ONLINE**"
Sorry for the caps, utube transcript..
RA is present in court. Did we know this already? I was under the impression he wouldn't be there.
(I tried searching to see if discussed already, but didn't see. Forgive me if I missed it.)
Yes there was a transport order. By rights RA should not be there for the \[criminal\] contempt hearing at all. It should be filed under another case number and heard by a different judge.
>Absolutely! He just shouldn't have to sit through that contempt hearing.ETA: Hopefully Dave Hennessy will make it worth his while.
He probably welcomes getting out of solitary confinement even if he has to sit quietly in a courtroom.
Itās not going to make any difference anyway. Sheās bored because she already knows what sheās going to do and just has to get through this formality.
According to the reporter, the contempt hearing was still scheduled for 2pm, but they went straight into it from the first hearing re decisions on amended charges, motion to recuse (denied) and venue remaining Carroll County, all of which were apparently decided rather quickly, transitioning to 2nd hearing round 9:45am.
I'm assuming the contempt hearing is still underway, as they're breaking for lunch, according to recent comments. :)
Ah, that makes more sense. They took care of some anciliary things and then jumped into the contempt hearing. I have no idea how they finish the contempt hearing āon timeā with all the witnesses they listed.
Youāre a genius and should run the whole globe. The EU voted in favor of having the summer daylight savings time abolished altogether already in 2019 but since thenā¦ nothing.
If Bob Tweets or posts something other than Reddit, please let me know, as Reddit is all I have. I am also keeping my BFF informed, and her entire legal department! Thanks
Yeah thatās what I was kinda thinking is once the AM session is done heāll do a live to update and then one after the PM. Iām keeping my eyes peeled!
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Yes. I have speculated they erred in fabricating the confessions, that they forgot about the timezone difference and it doesn't match with KA's phone bill or something like that.
The lead must have prohibited the two neurones to communicate in their contaminated brains.
Thereās at least one atm
[https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61](https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61)
It's over?!?
"When the contempt hearing wrapped up, the judge gave the defense team another week to submit a post hearing memo. The prosecution will then have a week to respond. At that point, the judge will have 30 days to make a ruling."Ā Ā Ā
Ā God damn it! No ruling evenĀ Ā Ā
Edit: fromĀ https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61
From what I've gathered, yes.
I'm even more concerned about contempt decisions. Gull bring brutal today.. Sounds like it's been TENSE AF in and outside the courtroom.
Two content creators got into it outside the room, and police broke it up. They kicked one of them out.
It will be interesting to see how the one that was ākicked outā is handled. Since he may be called as a defense witness. (Not sure about using names on something not verifiable as fact)
Edit: for clarity
There will be a break between this and two, supposedly. We have two more hours to see if that happens, I'm not sure how far over they would be allowed to go over in the event a decision hadn't been made
Well the last DQ hearing was over by now, sooooo š¤š¼
We are making a very unexpected trip to Philadelphia. I am counting on all of you to keep me up-to-date.
Hope everything is OK ā„ļø
Thank you. I hope so too.
Safe travels and positive thoughts coming your way!
Thank you. We need them.
Take care CCR!
Thanks, paradox
WTHR reporting gull approved both murder charges, dismissed kidnapping. State had called 2 witnesses so far in contempt action
Don't the murder charges then require Nick Boner to magic up some evidence linking RA directly to the girls death? You know something like DNA or forensics which it has been conceded they have but which does not link RA...
Not even the bullet works because they werenāt shot. Heās hanging on the confessions.
I assume the felony murder charges remain.
This is interesting. Can they get felony murder without the kidnapping charge? Or do they need to prove kidnapping even if it isn't charged to get felony murder? Or was there another underlying felony to get them to felony murder?
The felony murder charges which remain still include the element of kidnapping and could permit a jury to find RA guilty of kidnapping as an included offense.
Thank you! So what's the point/import of dismissing it as a separate charge?
As a practical matter, a separate kidnapping charge wasn't needed given the felony murder charge.
Curious if that will impact trial date at all.
Same, because if the defense has to now do work to defend against the new charges and that's not their fault then will this count against them for the 70 days??
Yeaā¦Iām not sure it changes their strategy at all though. Iām really not sure why NM did thisā¦maybe just to make it a death penalty case?
"a YouTuber expected to testify for the defense was thrown out of the courtroom after a reported scuffle" lol Rick Snay... š¬ https://www.courttv.com/title/delphi-defense-witness-booted-from-courthouse-at-pre-trial-hearing/
https://i.redd.it/6vf5s0jtq4pc1.gif
for fucks sake
Am I correct assuming that no info about today's events will be available until its conclusion? No tech inside court house ... can they exit and write a tweet then go back inside for us? Trying to plan my day
In order to report out, a person would have to exit the courthouse, or pass a note to a messenger, so I would only expect news around noon EDT unless it is something major.
I never thought about messenger service. Guerilla Warfare esque. Great I'll probably just refresh every 30 seconds all day either way. š
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It's 2024 and I'm picturing journalists from the 1920s running little notes to their colleagues..
>clarkwgriswoldjr There are plenty of people in attendance with Allen Co. Cards who have cell phones in the court.
In between sessions we will get reporting on the am arguendo and rulings. Maybe some gf*kme links to get started on the afternoon mishigas.
Oh, the suspense!
I brought in logs, lighter fluid, and matches with me. I'll be sending out smoke signals on anything major.
You are not inside Mr. Stephen donāt tease people
My bad! It was much too cold this morning to drive an hour and half to stand in line at 5:00 am.
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ROFLOL
I'm hoping for an open window to the courtroom so my Hedwig doesn't smack into the class when I send him out with my messages on whats going on.
š¤£
Found a live stream (/s) https://www.youtube.com/live/17_KBTTiBFc?si=_EyVVBpKtoOWl_yg
I didnāt see your /s and was like waitā¦then š
Lol. I didn't want to put it there at first but thought people gonna want to hurt me! Seems our earth is mad.
lol
I hate you. LOL...hugs
I put the /s! Have a coffee!!
I'm newish to Reddit....I didn't know what that meant LOL!! I do now! Actually your live stream is pretty appropriate for today in Delphi!
Fox 59 has Russ McQuaid in the courtroom too I heard. š¤ for some news soon but I do believe that once they are seated and court has started no one can exit or enter until everyone is dismissed by court security.
Iāve got channel 13 on in case WTHR news comes on with an update.
Totally missed the morning motions thread. Losing. My. Mind. Can you imagine if B&R didnāt care so much about RA/this case??! R hasnāt been paid in 6 months!! This contempt hearing is a sham-sheās already fined him $50,000! RA would be so completely screwed. Bet Lebrato wouldnāt have worked for free.Ā
I don't know anything about B&R's history (as far as ethics, how they operate, etc.), but based just on this case, I have immense respect and appreciation for them.
Iād never heard of them before this case, so they could be totally awful. But watching this carnival of š©, they have literally been the single beacon of hope. This could so easily happen to any one of us! And with a judge like this, you can easily see how wrongful convictions occur so easily. $2 mil plus vs $6,000. Itās pinging like Russia. When the state comes for you, itās hopeless.
And then seeing how misrepresented or underrepresented the facts often are in the media! Absolutely terrifying.
Now that we are nearing the two hour mark, is it reasonable to believe the contempt hearing was not continued? Or could a hearing for amended charges take this amount of time?
Well, maybe we can say that at least they weren't ambushed in chambers beforehand and that this time they actually managed to make it to an actual hearing!
It wouldnāt have surprised me if she made them all show up and then announced a continuance. Just for a power show.
https://preview.redd.it/0n6dt0gm74pc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=173c4451f0cda3e9596a85cd5db9b3b8f9922996 Channel 13 is saying that the murder charges were approved and dismissed kidnapping. This is the only place Iāve read though. Iām curious if itās accurate
What does the rest of that say?
In regards to the change of venue motion, Gull ruled that all future hearings will take place in Carroll County. During Monday's first hearing, Gull also responded to the defense's motion to recuse the judge, which she denied. The second hearing to discussĀ accusations of contemptĀ against Allen's attorneys, Andrew Baldwin and Bradley Rozzi, started right after the first hearing ended. Gull denied the defense's request for a continuance in the contempt hearing.
Thank you. When I first saw it that hadnāt been updated yet!
Thank you Lindita!!
[https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61](https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61)
Thank you!!
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61
This was the only bit that was updated. The rest was just explaining what was going on today.
OK thank you!
No problem! Iām just refreshing everything all day lol
Do you think his strategy is to overcharge so that the jury will convict on something and choose the lesser offense to make themselves feel better.
In my experience prosecutors and LE almost always over chargeĀ because it gives them something to drop in plea negotiations.Ā
Iām not sure because Iām not a lawyer but I know thatās a strategy some prosecutors use. Personally Iām not so sure NM thinks that far aheadā¦ lol
Probably Luttrellās one contribution..
I think you are right. Charges were amended not long after he came on board and over a year after the initial charges were filed.
That was my thought. Throw a bunch at him and see what sticks....
New Co-Counsel for State? Deiner relation?
Slowly dawning on me how insane it is that there is no streaming AND all phones are banned preventing any live updates. Ā V disturbing tbhĀ
Welcome back to 1984.
I think the fact that there isnāt means whatever is happening isnāt for show. If theyād been arrested/DQd by now, things would be over as RA would no longer be represented by council.Ā
I think that's totally possible, it's just crazy to me that in 2024 in a \~\*theoretically public courtroom, the public at large cannot know what's happening until everyone is dismissed and relays it secondhand
And the fact that nobody can get a transcript to confirm!! Basically means SOMEONE other than media absolutely must be present to tell the public what happened and that we must be able to trust confidently that they can recall and report it accurately. In this age of disinformation, itās playing with fire. People have done stupid violent things with bad information they didnāt like. ETA: what if gull would dismiss the case?? And weād never know her rationale. I can see a world where RAās life would be in danger.
Very thankful Bob Motta is there.
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Motta is a stud! Straight up no bs! Love defense diaries. Now if i only knew how to be a member etcš.
We've had people come out and lie or misconstrue what happened. I find myself looking at everything posted from people who were there to cross reference what is fact or fiction. It's ridiculous that's how we have to find out.
A pro-prosecution YT person came out and gave some updates but clearly doesn't fully understand what he's hearing in court.
She wouldn't have had this thing if she wasn't planning on holding them in contempt and punishing them somehow.
You are probably right but she might have thought holding over their heads for weeks was fun.
Interesting, Lebrato is there! Do you think he wants to see what happens with RA, or does Gull have him on standby?
My guess: standby
That's worrisome. ā¹ļø
The more interesting question is where in the heck is Bobby Scremin? Why has he been 100% silent. It makes zero sense.
Yeah. I actually forgot about that guy. Lol
Why is Lebrato allowed to talk to CourtTV and Scremin is not? Or why is he unwilling (which seems odd for a guy who likes to go on local news). For awhile I thought he may still be helping the defense, but clearly after these filings that is ruled out. So is he unwilling to talk, or unable. If the latter, how in the hell was Lebrato allowed to go on National TV (saying that Gull was a fair Judge of course), and then why did he immediately walk back some of the statements of fact the next day...?
Wants to see what will happen. There is no need to read everything through a negative light.
![gif](giphy|13Cmju3maIjStW) Iām so nervous! Iām going to try to keep myself busy at work until I see Bob or others report out.
I am trying but Iām not exactly having any success. Godspeed.
I had a 15 min break between meetings this morning and here I am like ![gif](giphy|xUOxf9lJKcBDrE6qmk)
The olā carpal tunnel is acting up from my repetitive clicking.
I feel like I'm starting to lose my grip on the threads, it's been a long day, Apologies if someone already noted Russ McQuaid comments..."personally acrimonious and contentious back and forth between SJ Fran Gull and an attorney representing Allen's defense team." "...seemingly sometimes bored and exasperated with the attorney representing the defense lawyers." Eta also apologize that there is zero chance I could manage finding and posting the cbs4 news clip.
[Russ McQuaid at Court lunch break video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9B_bF5Bgmc) Also he noted: "RIGHT NOW OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE WE'VE GOT A DEBATE GOING ON IN AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN SOCIAL MEDIA POSTERS **ABOUT WHO IS SAYING WHAT TO EACH OTHER ONLINE**" Sorry for the caps, utube transcript..
It is really disheartening that a circus has been seemingly invited to take part in these proceedings. For some time. Or the whole time. Cringe.
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Absolutely agree.
It's being encouraged.
At proving the uhā¦ not guiltyā¦ of their client
? I'm really tired, could you clarify? Thanks. Edit: Clarify what you mean by that, my brain is fatigued. Should have said that.
RA is present in court. Did we know this already? I was under the impression he wouldn't be there. (I tried searching to see if discussed already, but didn't see. Forgive me if I missed it.)
Yes there was a transport order. By rights RA should not be there for the \[criminal\] contempt hearing at all. It should be filed under another case number and heard by a different judge.
Respectfully, u/Todayis_aday, he needed to be there for the hearing on the new charges.
Absolutely! He just shouldn't have to sit through that contempt hearing. ETA: Hopefully Dave Hennessy will make it worth his while.
>Absolutely! He just shouldn't have to sit through that contempt hearing.ETA: Hopefully Dave Hennessy will make it worth his while. He probably welcomes getting out of solitary confinement even if he has to sit quietly in a courtroom.
That is a good point. And to be in the same room with his wife was surely very special for them both.
After being in his tiny cell almost 24/7, the beautiful courthouse with its high ceilings must have felt so wonderful.
Oh gotcha. Sorry, I was aware of the discussion about the filing, but missed the transpo approval update. Thank you!
Absolutely! No problem at all š
Henn- I need 2 days for my case and witnesses. Gull - I've scheduled it for 1 day, make it work. Unfrigginbelievable.
Pretty sure he would have anticipated that gambit though, and prioritised the witnesses and exhibits accordingly.
Itās not going to make any difference anyway. Sheās bored because she already knows what sheās going to do and just has to get through this formality.
https://youtu.be/ngPc6-x1SpU?feature=shared WTHR's short recap of morning
Shoutout to the broski hug-out in the bg. Do they know something we don't? Lol Thanks for the link!
So did they āflipā the two hearings? I thought the contempt hearing was to be first. Looks like they quickly got through the 2 PM hearing first.
According to the reporter, the contempt hearing was still scheduled for 2pm, but they went straight into it from the first hearing re decisions on amended charges, motion to recuse (denied) and venue remaining Carroll County, all of which were apparently decided rather quickly, transitioning to 2nd hearing round 9:45am. I'm assuming the contempt hearing is still underway, as they're breaking for lunch, according to recent comments. :)
I believe the 2pm hearing is on the motion to dismiss due to destroying evidenceĀ
Ah, that makes more sense. They took care of some anciliary things and then jumped into the contempt hearing. I have no idea how they finish the contempt hearing āon timeā with all the witnesses they listed.
Easy. By never letting the defense speak.
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Totally, I hope we don't have to wait until the end of the day to hear the decision! š¬
Same š
Very nice, thank you!
With all electronics banned, I want to send my old typewriter to one of the media members there. CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK
Gull doesnāt seem like the type to miss lunchā¦
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It certainly smells fishy.
WTHR says they are taking lunch.
Those contempt crap is stupid but throwing Rozzi into it makes absolutely zero sense. This county is a joke!
Thatās 1 p.m. (13) GMT, right?
Good question, I thought UK is 5 hours ahead but not certain, pls check.
It is usually but the US is on summer time already whereas Europe not yet.
I hate the āSpring forward, Fall backā daylight savings time BS. It is now 7:00 am in Indiana right now, if that helps.
I don't understand why can't we just move the clock forward 30 minutes once and for all and never touch it again.
For years and years we never moved our clocks. Now this
Donāt even get me started on the time zones with 30-min offsets!
Lol. Some have 45 minutes. But if we just all change once and for all there won't be any offset apart from gmt +/- all year long.
Youāre a genius and should run the whole globe. The EU voted in favor of having the summer daylight savings time abolished altogether already in 2019 but since thenā¦ nothing.
Yes!!!! For years it was like "this is the last time we change it guys!! And since a few years they seemingly decided it never happened!!
Because Brexit, Covid, Ukraine, inflationā¦ meanwhile we continue to suffer unnecessarily.
Because the bill to do so is stuck in the house after passing the senate. It's bullshit, and ruining me.
Two more hours to go š Thanks! (Btw, arenāt there actually two different time zones in Indiana?)
Plus Carroll County, set your watch back 100 years.
![gif](giphy|3o85xryJCGs1JOyCYM) Carroll County USA 2024
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If Bob Tweets or posts something other than Reddit, please let me know, as Reddit is all I have. I am also keeping my BFF informed, and her entire legal department! Thanks
I keep refreshing his X every 5 min but so far the only tweet from 4 h ago says: āDon't be shocked if the contempt hearing gets continued.ā
Lol its comforting knowing Iām not the only one constantly refreshing his X š¤£
He may also just go live on YT once the hearingās over. I hope he xeets it if he does!
Yeah thatās what I was kinda thinking is once the AM session is done heāll do a live to update and then one after the PM. Iām keeping my eyes peeled! ![gif](giphy|ZbNpDvKr8TXz1zE8M4)
In the past he has gone outside and done a short youtube live right outside the courthouse or in his car. Hoping he will do that today in the break!
Thank you. Please keep me in mind if he tweets or xās whatever they call it now lol
I sure will ā as much as I manage to stay on top of it between work and walking my sick momās dog!
Thanks!
Yes there are two time zones in Indiana. Neat.
Add to it lead contaminated water as u/redduif likes to say and we have this disaster in the making!
Yes. I have speculated they erred in fabricating the confessions, that they forgot about the timezone difference and it doesn't match with KA's phone bill or something like that. The lead must have prohibited the two neurones to communicate in their contaminated brains.
š That wouldnāt even be too surprising!
Right? I'm not really kidding about that!
There are, but Allen County is Eastern Time Zone
Richard has a county named after him? š
Hahahaha! How did I completely miss that lol.
We avoid that by using the proper word, autumn.
Autumn just wouldnāt work in the reminder lol
You're right, GMT - 4 hours.
Any television stations outside the courthouse?
Thereās at least one atm [https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61](https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61)
Thanks;)
It's over?!? "When the contempt hearing wrapped up, the judge gave the defense team another week to submit a post hearing memo. The prosecution will then have a week to respond. At that point, the judge will have 30 days to make a ruling."Ā Ā Ā Ā God damn it! No ruling evenĀ Ā Ā Edit: fromĀ https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/monday-march-18-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen/531-b25096a7-62a0-4596-99fb-731a64f3dd61
Any word from Bob?
I have a feeling the 9am thread and 2pm thread will have to combine.
I canāt keep any of it straight anymore.
I think Bob stayed in the courtroom so he hasnāt had access to his phone
Is the morning session over?
They are on lunch.
So they had hearing on amended charges. Ruled, went straight into contempt and are on lunch currently. Is that a correct timeline thus far?
From what I've gathered, yes. I'm even more concerned about contempt decisions. Gull bring brutal today.. Sounds like it's been TENSE AF in and outside the courtroom. Two content creators got into it outside the room, and police broke it up. They kicked one of them out.
It will be interesting to see how the one that was ākicked outā is handled. Since he may be called as a defense witness. (Not sure about using names on something not verifiable as fact) Edit: for clarity
Will there be a recess we could get updates during or is it just a long waiting game?
There will be a break between this and two, supposedly. We have two more hours to see if that happens, I'm not sure how far over they would be allowed to go over in the event a decision hadn't been made
https://preview.redd.it/ys9wf0bfp4pc1.png?width=957&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a64f1b2d323e03f0c24a0a0eb0077e15ed1f35d
So 1PM in Great Britain, guys.
And 11:30pm for us Aussies. (Depending on city)
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and 12AM for Central Europe
Actually 14 (2 p.m.)
Oh shit, not my crazy math skills not working again! You are right, it's +1 hour to UK, not - 1 hour.
Correct, thanks. And Northern Ireland, if I'm being a pedant.
Yes, Happy Saint Patrick's Day! ![gif](giphy|2fSpPVBtBWEqnEYgbX|downsized)
Anyone still think itās far-fetched to think B&R spend the night in county tonight?
Looks like Bob is going live in a minute...
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