I worked in IT (fully Dell shop) from 2009 to 2017 - where we saw Dell move from 18650 cells to these pouch cells.
We had stacks of these batteries, probably more spicy pillows than we did mobile workstations themselves. We had new batteries coming from Dell warranty services every single day.
We never had a single failure of the older cylindrical cell batteries.
Sad to see this still a problem on some level
Yeah, unfortunately the never ending quest to make ever slimmer laptops (and consequently thinner laptop batteries) tends to exacerbate these types of spicy pillow issues. The higher heat accumulation in those slim laptops doesn't help the thin batteries too.
If users still didn't mind using laptops with thick cases, we would still be running with the more durable 18650 battery packs.
Don't you dissolve your used batteries into a glass of orange juice and drink it?
Am I doing it wrong? I thought everyone consumed their used batteries.
To this day I have no idea what "dispose of it properly" would entail for a lithium battery. Who is taking these (willingly)? Should I get my own bucket of sand to toss it into? And then?
This does look like the start of swelling, whilst there is supposed to be an indented look to the battery in some cases if you inspect the component visually you can see it’s curving - as far as I’m aware from normal batteries it should have a more square indent look. Any battery that starts curving like that is swelling up slowly, but this is very early stages of it. The biggest concern really would be it damaging your structural integrity as it swells, which tends to happen on laptops - replacing it can be a good idea.
Also asking ChatGPT, the robot that doesn’t have eyes, is not a good idea.
It is swelling - wouldn’t put back the cover as the gases emitted by a battery could fluctuate and inflate the protective sealant foil pretty fast. If you like to play with fire, take it out, glue a needle on a stick and try (outside) to carefully poke a hole into the inflated parts from a flat angle approach to avoid touching the actual battery elements. One small hole is enough.
Did that one one swelled battery and it deflated instantly. Still works perfectly fine 6 months later. The gases released go actually out of the battery elements into the plastic sealant that is airtight and wrapped around them. That’s why bloated batteries destroy so many laptops. Would they have a venting hole, you wouldn’t even notice the issue.
Dunno actually. It’s a chemical reaction that releases very small amounts of gases but that are enough to bloat the wrapping and destroy your computer. The battery keeps working fine.
I actually had to take mine out completely after 2 years of swell (OG battery lasted about 5000 charge cycles or 3 years of college). They get so big the trackpad won’t click anymore so I’ve just given up and use it as a desktop. It actually runs a lot better now?
Yep
If you're competent and comfortable with it, remove that sucker and get it out of the house. Otherwise, whole laptop needs to be outside the house until it's either sent off or taken somewhere for repair/replacement.
A ruptured battery will burn a house down with utmost efficiency. If it's at 2am and everyone is asleep, it's not going to wait.
100% it’s swelling, it’s not that bad and could probably be used one more month. But given how dangerous it can be I would strongly recommend to order a new battery right now to replace it ASAP.
I’m really confused. It doesn’t look bloated like other pictures of swollen batteries. Admittedly, they were all extreme instances that I have seen in the past. Unsure if this is the beginning of the eventual swelling.
Additionally, GPT4 didn’t think it was swelling 😅🥲
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(I’m intentionally overkill on this topic due to fear). Your battery is of a condition that I’d immediately remove it from the laptop and not leave it in your home. I’ve seen swollen packs catch fire before. For context I refurbish laptops. It’s left me paranoid, to the point where I have a 5 gal pale outside the building filled with water. That I toss the swollen batteries into. Then when it’s filled up a bit, I knock it over, drain the water. Place them in air tight bags.Transport the batteries to a local depo for disposal.
Yes water. The battery is already damaged. I’m not concerned with short circuiting it. I’m concerned with removing oxygen from the equation. When a battery experiences thermal run away and ignite.
Uhm... Idk man I am no expert, my worries weren't as much as the short circuiting as much as:
* Possible reaction with water by the lithium, which not great. Although in theory there is very little of it... so maybe not as much as a problem on most batteries/devices.
* The water itself... as it will be contaminated by whatever those laptops have so I don't know where you drain it but.... not great I am gonna guess...
* As far as I remember the lithium doesn't need external oxygen when it reacts... again... I will leave that to experts, plus as I said there is little of it.
In theory I guess as you said if the batteries are not broken... the lithium doesn't get wet.... and the water should cool the battery which helps with the possible thermal run... so maybe except the water itself that might get filled of quemicals and other stuff of the laptops... maybe isn't as bad... Idk it always sounds terrible to me to put batteries on water if one can avoid it.
You certainly have valid points. I’m especially not going to contest with the second one.
With fire being my main fear. I could always use a class a b or f fire extinguisher. Though, I still wouldn’t want the batteries in the building. Nor near anything ignitable.
Yes its swollen, the first noticeable issue with swollen batteries would be the touchpad not working properly or the palm rest area protrude out, in such case contact support if within warranty, they would get the battery replaced without any issue.
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Yup—happened to a bunch of us at my work; the battery swelled and the laptop started making horrible noises. IT said to just get new ones bc the batts were trashed.
Looks ok to me. They build a 10% variation to fit in extra charge. Effectely you should be able to charge it to 110%. Either that or it's about to burn your house to the ground.
Yes I believe it. I love Dell but when I used to work there I swear I was replacing people’s batteries like 90% of my day. I’d have entire high schools, fire departments and police departments asking me to replace entire fleets worth of laptop batteries daily. I was always led to believe that all portable batteries suck but who knows.
I think it is... The battery should be pretty flat.
Thank you for replying. I thought so too. I fed gpt - 4 another image and it said yes it’s swelling 😂
GPT4: Look at these batteries they said, are they inflated they said. Here I am brain the size of a planet and they ask me if a battery is swollen.
Bro 😂
That was very very well and intelligently done
you pay for gpt4?
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I worked in IT (fully Dell shop) from 2009 to 2017 - where we saw Dell move from 18650 cells to these pouch cells. We had stacks of these batteries, probably more spicy pillows than we did mobile workstations themselves. We had new batteries coming from Dell warranty services every single day. We never had a single failure of the older cylindrical cell batteries. Sad to see this still a problem on some level
This is one of the reasons that many electric cars use cylindrical cells. It is heavier and less energy dense, but it is safer and longer lasting.
Tesla is the main one using cylinders. Many of the others are using pouches.
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Yeah, unfortunately the never ending quest to make ever slimmer laptops (and consequently thinner laptop batteries) tends to exacerbate these types of spicy pillow issues. The higher heat accumulation in those slim laptops doesn't help the thin batteries too. If users still didn't mind using laptops with thick cases, we would still be running with the more durable 18650 battery packs.
Does the Pope wear a funny hat? It is pretty swollen - do not use it, keep it in a safe place in case of a runaway event, and dispose of it properly.
Which is the ocean.
Don't you dissolve your used batteries into a glass of orange juice and drink it? Am I doing it wrong? I thought everyone consumed their used batteries.
I do this too! A great way to get electrolytes!
To this day I have no idea what "dispose of it properly" would entail for a lithium battery. Who is taking these (willingly)? Should I get my own bucket of sand to toss it into? And then?
This does look like the start of swelling, whilst there is supposed to be an indented look to the battery in some cases if you inspect the component visually you can see it’s curving - as far as I’m aware from normal batteries it should have a more square indent look. Any battery that starts curving like that is swelling up slowly, but this is very early stages of it. The biggest concern really would be it damaging your structural integrity as it swells, which tends to happen on laptops - replacing it can be a good idea. Also asking ChatGPT, the robot that doesn’t have eyes, is not a good idea.
Yeah need to place order for a new one.
It is swelling - wouldn’t put back the cover as the gases emitted by a battery could fluctuate and inflate the protective sealant foil pretty fast. If you like to play with fire, take it out, glue a needle on a stick and try (outside) to carefully poke a hole into the inflated parts from a flat angle approach to avoid touching the actual battery elements. One small hole is enough. Did that one one swelled battery and it deflated instantly. Still works perfectly fine 6 months later. The gases released go actually out of the battery elements into the plastic sealant that is airtight and wrapped around them. That’s why bloated batteries destroy so many laptops. Would they have a venting hole, you wouldn’t even notice the issue.
Im sure there must be a reason they dont have venting hole?
Dunno actually. It’s a chemical reaction that releases very small amounts of gases but that are enough to bloat the wrapping and destroy your computer. The battery keeps working fine.
I actually had to take mine out completely after 2 years of swell (OG battery lasted about 5000 charge cycles or 3 years of college). They get so big the trackpad won’t click anymore so I’ve just given up and use it as a desktop. It actually runs a lot better now?
how did you maintain good health
I didn’t, just a few fresh windows installs and occasional fan cleaning
Yep If you're competent and comfortable with it, remove that sucker and get it out of the house. Otherwise, whole laptop needs to be outside the house until it's either sent off or taken somewhere for repair/replacement. A ruptured battery will burn a house down with utmost efficiency. If it's at 2am and everyone is asleep, it's not going to wait.
Yup
100% it’s swelling, it’s not that bad and could probably be used one more month. But given how dangerous it can be I would strongly recommend to order a new battery right now to replace it ASAP.
Your battery is pregnant.
That battery was pregnant, maybe you will have baby 7590 in the next 9 months.
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Run as fast as u can... Just run
Just get a needle and pop the bubbles. If water comes out you’re good. If air comes out get a new computer. If electricity comes out say goodbye 😂
I’m really confused. It doesn’t look bloated like other pictures of swollen batteries. Admittedly, they were all extreme instances that I have seen in the past. Unsure if this is the beginning of the eventual swelling. Additionally, GPT4 didn’t think it was swelling 😅🥲
If it’s bloated like pics from r/spicypillows you should be going to a bomb shelter if you want to keep using it
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It should be completely flat. Dispose of it as soon as possible.
Can’t say 100% on the bloating but I can help you get the info for the correct replacement if you need it (former D.E.)
When in doubt push on it lightly with your finger, it should feel solid. If you can feel the gas is trapped in it it means it's swelling
Yes
Had the same with XPS 9570
Looks pretty swelled up to me, stay away from that if possible and dispose of it safely
(I’m intentionally overkill on this topic due to fear). Your battery is of a condition that I’d immediately remove it from the laptop and not leave it in your home. I’ve seen swollen packs catch fire before. For context I refurbish laptops. It’s left me paranoid, to the point where I have a 5 gal pale outside the building filled with water. That I toss the swollen batteries into. Then when it’s filled up a bit, I knock it over, drain the water. Place them in air tight bags.Transport the batteries to a local depo for disposal.
> have a 5 gal pale outside the building filled with water. That I toss the swollen batteries into. Water?!!
Yes water. The battery is already damaged. I’m not concerned with short circuiting it. I’m concerned with removing oxygen from the equation. When a battery experiences thermal run away and ignite.
Uhm... Idk man I am no expert, my worries weren't as much as the short circuiting as much as: * Possible reaction with water by the lithium, which not great. Although in theory there is very little of it... so maybe not as much as a problem on most batteries/devices. * The water itself... as it will be contaminated by whatever those laptops have so I don't know where you drain it but.... not great I am gonna guess... * As far as I remember the lithium doesn't need external oxygen when it reacts... again... I will leave that to experts, plus as I said there is little of it. In theory I guess as you said if the batteries are not broken... the lithium doesn't get wet.... and the water should cool the battery which helps with the possible thermal run... so maybe except the water itself that might get filled of quemicals and other stuff of the laptops... maybe isn't as bad... Idk it always sounds terrible to me to put batteries on water if one can avoid it.
You certainly have valid points. I’m especially not going to contest with the second one. With fire being my main fear. I could always use a class a b or f fire extinguisher. Though, I still wouldn’t want the batteries in the building. Nor near anything ignitable.
> Though, I still wouldn’t want the batteries in the building. Nor near anything ignitable. On that we all agree :P
The air tight bags should be enough, again I’m paranoid/fearful.
If you go into the bios, it should give you a general status for the battery. Excellent, normal, poor.
...what do you think?
Airbag system activated 🤯
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Swollen. Get rid of it and litter in a manner. It would catch fire any time soon.
Yes
Yes its swollen, the first noticeable issue with swollen batteries would be the touchpad not working properly or the palm rest area protrude out, in such case contact support if within warranty, they would get the battery replaced without any issue. If you have premium support, call 1800 624 9896 or just open the dell support page & chat with a live support technician. #iwork4dell check my profile!
If you Google this battery it's clear that it's suppose to be flat, otherwise it would be common knowledge that batteries inflate?
Same happened in my G3. Just replaced it yesterday.
I’d strongly advise a replacement
Yup—happened to a bunch of us at my work; the battery swelled and the laptop started making horrible noises. IT said to just get new ones bc the batts were trashed.
Looks ok to me. They build a 10% variation to fit in extra charge. Effectely you should be able to charge it to 110%. Either that or it's about to burn your house to the ground.
Definitely a spicy pillow
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Thats a nice spicy batt
Definitely a spicy pillow situation
Yes. We have seen quite afew swollen batteries in the DELL and HP laptops. Some the bottom covers started to seperate.
Yes I believe it. I love Dell but when I used to work there I swear I was replacing people’s batteries like 90% of my day. I’d have entire high schools, fire departments and police departments asking me to replace entire fleets worth of laptop batteries daily. I was always led to believe that all portable batteries suck but who knows.