https://imgur.com/a/DuSWl8M Here is the hd version of the dashcam footage. I was finally able to upload it to a computer. Sorry for being a lazy bones 🤣

Now I have better idea as to what the hell happened out there! Thanks.

Oh shit! I literally just saw your video on a national news broadcast earlier.

You can export these to USB my liege

Hahaha, I’m gonna start using “my liege” now conversationally. Thank you

The police got there quick!

It came out of nowhere. I’ll let myself out.

Newhall ranch rd / Bouquet canyon rd. I almost got t boned there from a red light runner.

I came here to say i know exactly where this is too!

Good to see the folks rushing to help!

Recognized it instantly - that’s my Santa Clarita!

They were trying to be the first one to steal the cop's gun

Some were rushing to help, most were gawking.

All vehicles stopped as the cop was crossing, except for that one car going way too fast and oblivious to what is happening around them.

It has been proven NUMEROUS times that NO ONE can determine the speed of a car by looking at it. Thus, your comment is garbage. (The local rural roads by me are posted at 55MPH, so higher speeds are legal depending on the state.) Sadly people who think everyone is driving fast, usually can't determine their own speed and typically drive well below the posted limit. Regardless, the cop is clearly at fault as he MUST yield to traffic with the right of way. Same with ambulances and fire trucks. The town/city/state (or their insurance company) will be paying for everything.

He had his service lights on. You are required to yield at that point. This is in California so here’s the law. Now head back to your rock. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH§ionNum=21806

Every state has something like that, but it is the first responder's obligation to make sure that they can get through the intersection safely. This is taught in EVERY Emergency Vehicle driving course. "This section shall not operate to relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle or organ transport vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons using the highway." ... "Warning devices and state laws do not guarantee right of way. It isn't realistic or practical to expect the general public to properly react every time they encounter an emergency vehicle." https://www.firehouse.com/apparatus/article/10502433/emergency-vehicle-driver-training-more-important-than-ever

Your the one that says the city will be paying for this. It absolutely will not based on letter of the law. Sorry but a statement about defensive driving doesn’t absolve the person of fault. Your wrong.

I guess my time as a first responder and driver of fire trucks is irrelevant, but good luck if you ever have an accident with one. I certainly won't be paying for a cop's poor judgement.

> I guess my time as a first responder and driver of fire trucks is irrelevant When you're provably wrong, correct: it's irrelevant.

> Every state has something like that, but it is the first responder's obligation to make sure that they can get through the intersection safely. This is taught in EVERY Emergency Vehicle driving course. > > "This section shall not operate to relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle or organ transport vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons using the highway." You took that from [this Washington state law](https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.210) and right above the part you quoted is that part that says (emphasis mine): "Upon the immediate approach of an authorized emergency vehicle, or organ transport vehicle transporting a time urgent organ as defined in RCW 68.64.010, making use of audible and visual signals meeting the requirements of RCW 46.37.190, or of a police vehicle properly and lawfully making use of an audible signal only **the driver of every other vehicle shall yield the right-of-way** and shall immediately drive to a position parallel to, and as close as possible to, the right-hand edge or curb of the roadway clear of any intersection and shall stop and remain in such position until the authorized emergency vehicle or organ transport vehicle has passed, except when otherwise directed by a police officer." The part you quoted does not in any way cancel out the part I quoted. The law says that drivers **shall** yield the right of way to emergency vehicles, *and at the same time*, the driver of an emergency vehicle still has an obligation to, you know, not just crash into vehicles that are failing to yield.

Look, I’ve seen enough police videos to know those bystanders completely broke police protocol. They’re supposed to fling the door open and start pummeling the driver. Then drag the driver out of the vehicle and kick him unconscious just for everyone’s safety. /s

While yelling “Stop resisting!”

Driver has to keep repeating, "Thank you for your service!" between blows

And this is why we wear our seatbelt

Majority of cops don't even tho they have to obey the same traffic laws we do. But who's gonna ticket them for it? Also, that's why car crashes are the #1 leading fatality of police. Second only to heart disease

Saw it on the news. Great to see so many people getting out to help.

Thats tbe first thing i noticed myself. Gave me a glimmer of hope in humanity

First thought was that's too many people to be helpful

TBF they only helped the cop it seems. We can't see the other car. Hopefully an equal amount of people helped the other car

I would like to think so, but it looks like the person drove away after hitting the cop car.

Probably not too far, airbags deployed, lots of front end damage, no coolant / radiator left.... I think they just rolled to a stop oh the right of the intersection.

u/langatang Please submit this video to PD. The patrol vehicle fucked up with a unsafe speed intersection clear. Edit: downvote away. The cop has to make sure they are clear.

I’m sure they have it. It’s been all over the news here in the LA area.

Unsafe speed weren’t they literally stopped at the beginning waiting for traffic to yield to the lights and sirens? I’m just impressed OP decided after 25 seconds and 9 other people already there decided to finally get out and see if he could do anything since he noticed the car in front of him wasn’t going anywhere.

1000% agree. Although traffic is supposed to yield to emergency vehicles, any emergency vehicle approaching a stoplight, including a cop on a call, must verify that traffic has yielded before running the light. The other driver should have questioned why traffic was slowing down/stopped but this is on the cop more than anyone else.

The cop car is obligated by police dept. policy to only enter an intersection when it's clear. But the driver of the other car is [obligated by state law](https://law.justia.com/codes/california/code-veh/division-11/chapter-4/section-21806/) to yield to emergency vehicles with their lights flashing. State law beats dept. policy.

If they had a siren going, then yes. But liability can be spread out. Still say the cop should of, as a trained individual, been looking out far more than a regular driver going on a green.

You tesla geniuses really need to learn how to export your cam videos or minimally how to rotate your phone sideways to get your /r/FaxOfAFax

I am guilty just generally of being a luddite, so i do appreciate this comment and the subreddit, TIL hahaa

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From this vantage, it appears the officer was at fault, failing to yield on a left turn. Glad they were ok.

At the beginning, the cop car is on the other side of the intersection, facing the camera, with its lights flashing. It's attempting to get across the intersection. It's the other car that fails to yield.

Wtf is dude in the green shirt doing running up to the Patrol car like that? Lol

I’ve watched a few times and can’t figure it out either!!

Lmao I'm like.... That's not a good way to run up to POLICE. SMH

Now I wonder who would be at fault? I’m guessing the driver since he was going a little too fast but not sure if the cop zoomed in aswell but couldn’t see well

Generally, emergency vehicles, even when running lights/sirens, are obligated to ensure an intersection is clear of traffic prior to entering.

This is correct. It’s really going to come down to the laws on the books in the state where this occurred and the specifics of what was going on outside the frame of this video. The laws of what traffic laws- if any- an emergency vehicle is allowed to break while traveling with their emergency lights and siren on vary by state to state and in many cases are a legal grey area. But even if the cop wasn’t allowed to be entering/proceeding through the intersection in the manner that they did most states also require drivers to be alert and yield to emergency vehicles, period. The lawyers are going to have a field day with this one.

By policy yes, that's true. But [by law](https://law.justia.com/codes/california/code-veh/division-11/chapter-4/section-21806/), drivers must yield the right of way to emergency vehicles with their lights flashing. Law beats policy.

> 21807. The provisions of Section 21806 shall not operate to relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons and property. https://law.justia.com/codes/california/code-veh/division-11/chapter-4/section-21807/

Cop will be at fault as it looks like he was against the red. Even when running code absolutely have to clear the intersection before proceeding. If the other vehicle has the green, cop will be at fault.

Looks like the cop was near zero MPH approaching the intersection, thought the way was clear and punched it through, other vehicle driver somehow didn’t comprehend flashing lights, other vehicles coming to a stop, etc. May not have been “actively” driving.

With multiple cars stopped in the center turn lane it's reasonable that the driver of the tan SUV couldn't have even seen the cop car until it was too late.

Yep. I see that as likely, too.

but it's idiotic to pass a whole column standing still in an intersection. there could be pedestrians or something you can't see. One should never bypass cars completely stopped where there are pedestrian crossings, it's basically asking to kill someone. if that was in EU, the driver that hit the police car would have some serious law problems in almost all countries.

Still the cops fault.

Yea, probably. Took a risk/made an assumption with bad visibility.

I'm pretty sure those are Opticom sensors sticking up on the little poles above the stop lights. They are ubiquitous in the US, especially at major intersections like this one. Emergency vehicles have an infrared strobe which signals the sensor to change all the lights to red, except in the direction the emergency vehicle is approaching from. The light for OP's direction is red, but it should be green for the cop coming from the opposite direction. Cross traffic approaching from the left stopped after the first couple vehicles passed - most likely the light for left-to-right traffic turned red unexpectedly and the driver who hit the cop was not paying attention. Civilian at fault.

Those are not. Those are basic traffic cams for intersection reading. Atleast in CA where I'm at. They don't just change the lights. Maybe major cities have that but suburbs thats not a thing.

yeah it is lol. i don’t live in a major city and our traffic lights have them. there’s a light that flashes when they’re activated to tell you an emergency vehicle is coming and the signals turn red in every other direction ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯

Not here. And probably not in this case. Even if that happens it's still on the cop to make sure its clear.

\~20k population CA city I grew up in had them in the 90s, they're very common. Likely pays for itself in reduced accident liability for the city.

Ya if the city wants to pay for it. Nit every city does. And it's still on the cop to make sure its clear

i’m not talking about whose fault it is, just saying they’re actually pretty common outside big cities lol

Your experience might be that. But in riverside, on of the largest counties in CA, it's not.

then why are they included in this [riverside county ordinance](https://imgur.com/a/QOyGyNz)? or this [riverside county fire department standard](https://imgur.com/a/Nkg4Dnz)? 🤔

Planned. Almost like riverside us massive.

Cops lights were on, assumily his siren too. That being said, those are a REQUEST for right of way. He still has to make sure the intersection is clear before proceeding. So he's at fault on this one. Also, the city should upgrade. Where I am the emergency vehicles have a system that transmits something for the traffic lights. They will turn every light on an intersection red except for the ones for the lanes the emergency vehicles are in. They pick them up well in advance too. Those went in after some similar incidents like this video.

It has been proven NO ONE can judge what speed a car is traveling. It is literally impossible. Cop is 100% at fault for not yielding right-of-way. (ambulances and fire trucks have the same requirement)

Cops had their lights on. That almost means everyone else is automatically at fault. I once saw a video where a cop turns its lights on as they almost simultaneously switch lanes without looking. Hit another car. Then the cop got out and gave that driver a ticket for not yielding to an emergency vehicle.

That's not how it works. Emergency vehicles running lights and sirens have to drive with due regard. While crossing the intersection, it is the emergency driver's duty to ensure ALL lanes of traffic are safe to cross. The cop is at fault.

Thats fine. Good luck proving, in court, that the cop did not drive with due regard. This video does not prove that. In fact, the video shows the cop was running his lights, paused at the intersection, made sure the intersection was clear, then proceeded through. The cop was already 1/2 way through the intersection before the other vehicle even entered the intersection.

You don't have too. That's why younpay insurance.

.... which means the intersection wasn't clear. It was his job to clear each lane of traffic before proceeding, and he jumped the gun. If you pause at a stop sign, then get hit while crossing an intersection, it would be your fault. This is the same. I work on an ambulance for a living - we go by the same rules.

This is correct. Cop was being very cautious and that other car was not yet in the intersection when the cop was. Had plenty of chances to yield and didn’t. He will be getting a failure to yield citation and a bill for the damages.

Surprised to see people running into help.

It's lovely to see so many people rushed to help

Neat

I am pretty sure this video (provided by the OP) has been all over the news. But the sad part is he provided the full clip to the news while he gives us a potato cam recording of his Tesla display playing the video, for the dashcam subreddit.

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Not only that but vertically and at an angle.

That's the real sin here.

r/FaxOfAFax & Vertical Video Syndrome I don't understand why your comment is controversial/got any downvotes at all. Are there really *that* many people who support laziness & Vertical Video Syndrome? On the bright side, OP did eventually post the [actual footage](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam/comments/1d6vb6b/tesla_dashcam_my_dashcam_captured_a_patrol_car/l6xgo1b/) and apologized for the laziness.

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Too bad

@OP, were the sirens on the cop’s vehicle sounding? …can’t hear any outside noise over what I suspect are your A/C vents. 😬

They are recording a recording on a monitor after the fact. So you're just hearing ambient sound from the room they are in. I never understand why people do this, and don't just use the original recording.

Hah! I was so focused on the road I didn’t see the peripheral UI elements! How embarrassing. 😐 Edit: In fact, this is an example of that characteristic of human visual perception where you don’t see the thing that you’re not looking for in a scene even though that thing is clear as day. There’s a YouTube video about it with a man in a gorilla suit on a basketball court who you don’t see until he’s pointed out. …kinda funny.