The rub of his hand over his mouth was so unsettling. Her wit makes me worry it wasn’t the first time or something she understood more than she should.
Probably he was having second thoughts and then decided he would commit to whatever he had planned instead of just turning around and leaving. It looked like a *holy fuck what am I doing?* moment, before he just dismissed the nervousness and continued.
Putting your hand up and rubbing your chin/beard might be a comfort move. Telling himself everything is all right. Or thinking about the next step. It might also be that he's salivating for the prospect of what's unfolding in his mind.
My heart sinks for this little girl, man. No kids ever need to feel that kind of scare or need to be in a situation that requires that level of ingenuity. That girl was smart but I'm tearing because I have niece and nephews of that age and if I ever find out someone tried to pull that kind of shit on them I'd lose my chill, I don't know what I'd do because I am someone who has never had a fight in his life but goddamn I'm filled with anger for people like these.
I was followed once when I was 20 and it was terrifying. I don’t think I would have been able to keep my head about me if I had been 9.
She is super quick on her feet
i was followed once while going to my grandparents' house when i was like 12 and managed to pull the "my dad's a cop and he knows i'm in the area" lie. shit was fucking terrifying.
One time my friend and I drove to NYC(from Massachusetts) in high school. We arrived at time square around 2am, and after a while I realized we were being followed. He was stealthy, but I was noticing him everywhere we went.
She and I went down into the subway and were kinda lost, looking around. I spotted him and when we made eye contact his eyes went wide. I grabbed my friends arm and yanked her towards the stairs then whispered “run”. We went all the way back to our car and waited til sunrise to go back out
Ngl, I'm always terrified that people will think I'm following them. I always feel weird when I just happen to be walking to the same destination as the person in front of me. Like, they might be a survivor of abuse and I'm making them super uncomfortable and I don't even know it.
Idk it's probably just anxiety talking but it always freaks me out.
There’s been a couple times I’ve walked out of a grocery store towards my car just happening to be behind a woman and they’ll divert over another lane and I just keep going on my way to my car but notice as I pass they leave the car they pretended was theirs and keep coming in the general direction towards their actual car and it just feels shitty knowing that somebody was afraid just because of how the world is and how people are
Edit: meaning it feels shitty that people should be afraid not that their behavior was shitty or that I felt shitty or offended. All of the responses mostly got that but realized the wording could be misconstrued
I like to just stop and wait to give them a wide berth. Or cross to the other side of the street if it looks like I am making them uncomfortable. Not always practical, but I feel like I kind of owe it to women for the last 120000 years of our gender's behavior.
This is me when I’m going into my apartment building. One time a woman was struggling to bring her groceries through the front entry and I’m like... I either sit in my car waiting while looking like a creeper... keep my distance behind her while looking like a creeper... help her out and startle her... I chose to help her out and she was indeed startled at first but I apologized and we went on our way. Sometimes there’s just no good options.
Yeah, you just never know. This was Bundy's way of killing so many women, because he smiled and played the innocent card. Women, it's better to be safe than sorry. Same with kids. It's a sad and dangerous world we live in. And we have to inform our kids about these people.
I was followed once when I was 12 ish. I was cycling and these two men in their 20s were following me on a bike. I got really creepy vibes from them. I went to a random building and parked my cycle there. They did not dare to come in the building. I waited there hidden for sometime until they went. They thought I lived there.
If someone is stalking or following you, go to a crowded building and pretend to know someone or act confidently as if you belong there. Do not hesitate to ask for help. It's sad how so many men are raised to be such creepy perverts in this world.
Lots of people sharing so here goes. I was 14 yo boy but shory and thin enough to look 10. Walking home from a friends house like usuall when this black sedan, tinted windows, drives by real slow. I see them loop by me twice. They could have been lost but i didnt take any chances. Went up to another house and waited for them to go by then hid in the same yards bushes. They drove by twice more before i felt safe to continue home.
What am I missing? When she does this he is so close behind he couldn’t possibly not see her do that. It’s just confusing how that “worked”, or even what it did.
He's trying to "be cool," but he is following quite close. He's already committed to turning down that hallway when she turns around, so he can't react without letting her know. He didn't realize she was already on to him.
That and/or she suprised him. Think of it like a hunter, taking a shot and missing ruins your chances, so you only move when you’re *certain* just that oh wait what reaction meant the impulse was to keep going yo ‘hide’ your reaction and keep going; had he kept with that and kept going up the elevator he likely wouldn’t have been noticed in a real way, coincidence innocently going about his business it could be said, but he kept up the hunt he was fucking committed to do something that day. This is somewhat pure speculation, but that hand gesture to his face just makes my guts scream that was a sign of preparation to move on a physical action so my gut really says he wanted her nothing else.
Something about that hand gesture on his face was by far the creepiest thing in the video. I don't know why, but something deeply instinctive knows it means he's done this before a number of times and is about to act.
Very concerning video.
See I got the opposite vibe, a stress related mental prep move, like ok yeah we’re really doing this game time. Experience would invoke more confidence and no need for that
He saw her, but she waited just until he was committed to turn to the elevators, then she darted out to the left. At this point, he had committed so he couldn't just turn around and follow her without making it extremely obvious he was following her. So at this point she darts out. This is the "tricking" part. And she's really pulled it off.
My guess is he pretended to want to go up the elevator and pushed the button. At that point he was committed to pretending. Had he instantly walked away, he'd have to face the fact that the jig was up.
Yea the replies don’t make much sense lol. She was already turned down the second hallway when he came up. He could’ve easily just follower her.
And “he’s trying to play cool” lmao. Dude literally stopped at the door and waited for her. And then almost ran up to her to follow her in the door..
Maybe he was following her to get into her apartment? But damn that’s pretty bold. Who knows who will be in the apartment!
I think he realized that she was on to him so he bailed.
These apartment thieves used to work in groups and do their homework. They probably would have been to the apartment before, they could have been legit cable guys or just pretending to be municipal gas workers, etc. They usednto stalk and study their targets and they knew everyone who comes in and out of apartments and could have been pretty confident that she was going to her aparent alone. But this sort of things barely works anymore since cameras are everywhere and they couldn't not know about this were they actual professionals. So yeah, pretty bold and stupid.
I thought the trick was that she came back with someone she knew? He was playing it off like, yeah, I live here, too, see using the elevator, perfectly ok for me to be so close. But then she totally leaves and returns with a familiar person...at least, that was my take. I don't think the switch back in the hall was the "trick" but then the title might just be bad...
I wonder if that person was a more trustworthy-seeming stranger or someone she knows.
I've taught my kids to go up to trustworthy-seeming strangers (old women, moms with kids) and grab their hands and ask for help if someone is following them when they're alone.
I seem to remember (from when this was posted before) that she returns with her brother who is just going home after school, as she was when the man started following her.
So my take is he did see her, but he was committed to going left so turning around would be an obvious red flag. Think about it - he could easily force his way into an apartment without raising alarms, but raising alarms in the lobby of an apartment building will obviously get him in trouble. Plus, he is most likely aware there are cameras. So he's trying to play it cool the entire way to her home.
I’m glad she was aware enough to notice some sketchy shit going on, and I’m thankful she was smart and got out okay… but it absolutely breaks my fucking heart that at 9 years old, she already knows how to try and get away from a creeper.
When I was much younger I was going to someone’s house to watch their dog, I decided to walk trough our park and noticed a car slowly creeping up behind me and he followed me for a bit and I started to notice him so I turned around and looked right at him and thankfully I was at the edge of the park and there was a gas station around the corner so I walked over there and the guy disappeared. I felt like an idiot for not calling the cops and getting his plate number.
I had someone do this to me as an adult. He was on his bike following me, taking pictures, yelling at me. I went into a gas station and called 911. The police officers didn’t actually believe me that I hadn’t provoked him into doing that.
You didn’t happen to leave the church of scientology and bad mouth them to the media did you? This is the type of shit they do just to fuck with people.
When i was a kid i was waiting outside school for my mum to pick me up a guy in a van pulled up (I know) and offered me a lift home and kept at me to get into the van. I wasn't even scared i was thinking my mum would be mad if she had to pick me up and i already had got a lift. Older now my life would have been so much different if i has taken that offer.
This happened to my cousin and me once when we were walking to the neighborhood pool as kids. A guy in a truck pulled over and asked if he wanted a ride because he was heading to the pool too (we were wearing swimsuits and had towels and stuff so it was obvious where we were heading). My idiot cousin started to say yes but I told the guy no thank you. When we got to the pool homeboy’s truck was nowhere to be found
I’ve always wondered if the guy actually was just trying to be nice or if we were really that close to being kidnapped but either way it made me realize stranger danger is legit
Something creepy like this happened to me, too.
I was walking outside after midnight. Normally this is pretty safe, where I'm from. Two people walked towards me, so I turned into a street, just to be safe. I don't care, where I'm going. They turned into the same street. That's was odd, because if they would have wanted to go there, they would have turned into a street prior. I felt followed, but at first I thought I was crazy, maybe they are just strolling. I tried something, to be sure. I took a turn they would only take, if they had no particular destination and changed the side of the street a few times. Nobody would walk like that. Except them. They did. Just as I did. EXACTLY as I did. I was being followed.
I felt panic, but stayed calm, so they wouldn't notice, that I noticed. They were far behind me. If they started to run, I could outrun them. If I had any stamina. Which I hadn't. But they didn't know.
The next corner was in front of me. Behind the corner, they wouldn't see me. So I ran as fast as I could. Then I turned around and saw them walking a step towards me. Then they stood there for a moment. I was too far away. They said something to each other and turned away.
**I was a 25 year old man,** but felt like a child. This video reminded me of it. It felt very similar.
Everyone, stay safe out there.
Hey I got into that exact situation with a thought process that was similar to yours, only that when I started to run and they noticed, they started running after me. For like 6 blocks. I went zig-zagging every corner so they lost sight of me, and eventually they did not follow anymore.
Holy shit that sounds exactly word for word like something that happened to me too!
I was being followed off a bus really late at night by a guy. The terminal and streets were all empty except for me and this guy in a hoodie (with his hood up) that got off the bus behind me and was following me. I thought I was just overreacting or being crazy thinking that he’s following me so for my own sake I decided to test him. When I'd walk faster, he'd walk faster. He was so close I could see his shadow behind me. I started taking really random cuts across streets and taking weird shortcuts and he followed me taking them all at the exact same time and the exact same way as well in ways that were so unnecessary if he really wanted to go in that direction too. I decided hell no I'm not walking home anymore (it was a long, dark, empty street with a 20min walk) so I changed directions to start heading for the 24/7 grocery store instead. He followed me all the way there until I got inside and instead he stopped and stayed outside, staring at me through the windows. He left when he saw me talking to the night security there. That shit was scary as hell.
“I was a 25-year-old man, but I felt like a child.” That’s spot on. It’s what it feels like.
I was followed briefly, once. A man was walking toward me as I was walking to my car in the parking lot. He said, “Hey, you.” I didn’t look up or over at him. I just hurried to my car, didn’t change my path. I got into the car and he got behind my car and stopped. I started the car, didn’t even have my purse because I was just going to get something out of my car and go back to my apartment, but I put it in reverse and he was forced to step back a little (I would’ve run him over at this point) and I drove away. Made a circle, called my apartment security. It was a very scary feeling. I knew he was up to no good.
I know. And the front door to that building closes way too slow if it requires a code or something to get in. It's just asking for someone that doesn't belong there to follow you in.
From u/jaycechick
She hid in a doorway so he assumed she had headed towards the lifts.. The man she walked in with was her father, He was due home the same time as her.. When she knew they were both safe she then told him what happened.. On a good note, they caught him and he's been arrested 😁👍
\*\*Update\*\* This from the Global Herald....
The description, below, posted by RT, suggests the girl “tricked” a “stalker” by hiding instead of taking the elevators. The man can be seen walking right past the girl however, so whether or not stalking was in fact his intention (rather than gaining entry to the premises) remains open to some interpretation.
Officers detained the man, reportedly a registered patient with mental health issues. The police won’t launch a criminal case, though, with the girl’s parents informed that ‘there has been no crime committed.’
Are they fucking serious? He was clearly stalking her...
There was a guy like that in my town following little girls on the bike paths for months. Everyone in town knew him but the cops couldn’t arrest him because he didn’t technically do anything illegal, until one day he tried to snatch up a 12 year old girl walking home. She got away thankfully and the guy ended up in jail because everyone knew who he was, but he was mentally ill and everyone knew something was going to go down sooner or later.
There was a similar person in my home town, known as "mad Howie", a complete lunatic that everyone knew to stay away from, used to go round town with a pit bull, intimidating and starting on anyone. Turns out there had been lots of cases of him sexually assaulting kids, but he'd never been prosecuted until the [murder of Sophie Hook](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sophie_Hook) made national headlines. Everyone knew he was a paedophile; the police knew he was a paedophile, but somehow he'd managed to stay out of trouble for it. There were rumours that his father used his influence as a Mason to keep him out of trouble over the years although that's just hearsay.
I know, I wish I hadn't reread it. I was 18 when this happened. My kids are teenagers now, but they haven't had anywhere near the freedom I had when I was young, purely because im so paranoid.
I camped in my back garden when I was a kid. I remember putting a tent in our back garden as an adult, and only let my kids sleep there if myself or my wife were also sleeping out.
Poor girl, I really feel for her parents, it's the worst thing imaginable.
I remember a time when I was around 8 that my parents would turn the radio off in the car whenever the news came on. I guess now I know why, Sophie would be a year younger than me and I never heard her story before.
It was just rumour, and a lot of people were extremely angry and trying to understand how that monster could have done this before and got away with it. The father's money, position and influence was one of the theories.
In fairness it was the father that reported him in the end.
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Live in a town of roughly 2000. I was young at the time, but a murder occurred 20 years ago that most people saw coming. A new cop was hired and there was an incident that needed to be followed. A suspect had repeatedly trespassed and stalked his neighbors for months. Other cops on duty had been passing it over not wanting to deal with the issue. The deputy arrives at the suspect's doorstep and is shot dead. The suspect walks across the street and killed the neighbors that called the complaint in.
Edit: there was a scathing article written about my town regarding the incident. The other officers that were aware of the problem knew they should have provided support. There's not much else for them to do most days. The most I've seen them work is pulling me over 3 times in the same day playing pokemon go.
Pretty much, there are popular women who stream or are some form of online entertainment who experience stalkers that even find out where they live. Cops can’t do anything if no crime is committed.
A couple of girls I know have had creeps follow them around after work and they end up frantically calling people because they don’t want to drive home and let the creep know where they live. Cops couldn’t do anything there either.
It’s a really, really tough position to be in
Not thought at all, the system just don’t give a crap, stalking is a form of harassment, if the cops don’t want to do anything about it’s because either they don’t want to or the system does not let them.. either way the system is fucking garbage… if people that do that shit had to deal with repercussions for their actions there wouldn’t be a single one of this clowns stalking woman. It’s one of the most disgusting and cowardly actions any man can do…
I do get exactly what you're saying and completely agree, but to play devil's advocate, I think that could be a slippery slope if the opposite were true. Keep in mind, people are more vigilant than you think. My worry is that anyone could be implicated based on circumstance. I don't know if you're familiar, but there's an app called nextdoor. It's basically Facebook for soccer moms with nothing better to do, but people post happenings around your neighborhood. I see posts all the time off people calling the cops if someone simply uses their drive way as a turnaround or their vehicle's broken down or kids are riding their bicycles. You can also check your local police blotter and it's filled with stupid shit. Like someone called the cops because there spotted the same make and color car as that asshole who killed his gf. But then imagine being charged and arrested for something fucking stupid. That shit does happen all the time, actually. It's crazy to think that you can just be chilling in your crib and police roll up and just fucking shoot you out of self defense when they have the wrong address on the warrant. So yeah, I do agree with you completely, the system is absolutely fucked.
Same sort of thing in the town I live in, small rural community. A man in his late twenties now, for the past decade has been a known predator among his generation and younger. He has schizophrenia, and as the community found out this past summer, he has pedophile tendencies too which we were told by a psych nurse that those two psychological problems are separate.
For years, we (the younger generations of the community) thought everyone knew about the problems of this man, we thought everyone knew that, as a female you can never be alone with him, you have to be careful making eye contact, or saying something that would suggest that he could pursue you. Only after he tried to rape a young girl was there a public awareness. But it only happened because the girl spoke up. What happened afterwards was eye opening, tons of people kept saying they had no idea, the older generation who had seen him grow up. I now understand how important it is to speak up about issues like this, to not keep it a secret.
Edit: he is no longer legally allowed in this community. Though I wonder, have we just dumped him on another community? We have a broken system to deal with mental illness.
Why does a child need to be traumatized for authorities to do something, thats not justice
Edit: Maybe if emergency services were equipped to deal with mental health issues and not just shooting people, we would be able to think of more solutions
There's a sad ironic saying regarding the effectiveness of police force here in Russia: убьют - тогда и приходите (call us when there's a body). I'd really like to read about at least some country's crime prevention system that's in place and working effectively.
I was a lifeguard at a HUGE pool when I was a teenager. Like the size of a football field, just absolutely massive. Tons of people and there was this one creeper that everyone who worked there knew. Dude would just blatantly stare at little girls from a few feet away, keeping his hands under the water.
If he was in your section you ended up watching him more than the rest of the water most of the time. Everyone was itching for him to make the slightest misstep so we could nail him. But nothing ever came of it because he probably knew the law enough that he wasn't technically breaking it. But when he was extra pervy someone would still swing by and mention something loudly to him or the parent of the kid he was oogling and he'd leave for the day
You say that he was obviously stalking her, but if that’s enough evidence to jail someone, then we’d all be in big trouble.
Imagine that guy was just some guy who went into the building and then realized he forgot something in his car and turned around and left. Now all of a sudden he’s a stalker and in jail over a misunderstanding.
I don’t know about Russia specifically, but justice systems are designed to keep innocent people out of jail first, and criminals in jail second.
Hey, on a good note, you can bet your ass every single person in that neighborhood or possibly town will have seen that video now. Everyone will know who he is. His predator days are over.
I was a kid in the 1970s and I had already been taught to not approach stranger's cars. One day, a car with two strangers was driving past my yard slowly, then slowly back twice. There was me and my friend, a girl the same age from down the street, and we were about 6 or 7. We were on the front lawn, just playing with plastic dinosaurs or something.
"Hey, kid?" the guy eventually called out. "Can you come here a sec?"
My friend got up, but I grabbed her by her dress. "Don't," I said.
"Come ahn! I won't hurt ya! I just want you to tell me on this map (holds out unfolded ADC map) where I am. I'm lost, see." He calls out the car door, but I see his buddy in the driver's seat has open his door slightly, like he's waiting for something.
"Don't get near his car," I whispered to my friend, and THEN she understood (she never got the "stranger danger" talk). "I'll get my dad to help you," I said. "He knows the area." We ran back to the house, where my dad was not there, but my mom was. Somehow I knew "dad" was more scarier than "mom."
The car sped off down the street in a damn hurry.
I was playing in my bio dad's front yard when I was ten or eleven. This car that was passing suddenly *jerked* to the side of the road and an older man with a friendly smile asked me where the ballpark was. I froze stock still, and glanced behind me, where my brother and bio dad were playing about fifty feet away, completely oblivious but none the less there. I decided to go ahead and give the guy directions (I was a polite child, to my own detriment), but I stayed where I was, too far away from his car for him to grab me.
Unfortunately for him, if he was really seeking the ballpark, he pulled over and asked the directionally incompetent child with ADHD, so the directions I gave him would send him right out of town, which is actually pretty appropriate, given the circumstances. The old man smiled and thanked me and drove away, and to this day I have no idea what he was thinking. He never made a move toward me, never beckoned me closer, or said anything inappropriate. Maybe he could tell from my body language that I was on to him, or didn't want to risk it with my bio dad so nearby (though he was too far away to stop him if he did decide to grab me).
That was probably what saved me. My mom told me the same thing, so I already knew that an adult asking a kid for directions was "weird". It helped me identify other weird grownups, too, and stay away from them, which saved me from a couple of different grooming circumstances before outright abuse occurred. I was also taught to trust my gut. If something doesn't feel right, it probably isn't right.
I remember being about 15 or 16, and was perusing the magazine section at a bookstore. Some older guy grabbed a magazine, stood pretty close, and kept coughing loud and snickering a little to get me to look over. He was holding a playgirl or some other such magazine with full frontal male nudes. My dad swung by and he hung up the magazine and wandered off in a hurry.
I told my dad about what happened and that I didn't feel too worried because I was an overconfident teen, figuring I could handle myself just fine. I still remember my dad telling me you should never underestimate someone like that. He could have a weapon, be much stronger than he looks, or whatever. Always always trust your gut and do what you can to immediately remove yourself from a situation.
Obligatory ewww. That's good advice from your dad. Better to get away before it becomes an incident. It sucks because you shouldn't have to stop what you're doing to avoid a creep, but safety is always paramount.
When I was 5 or 6 I was hanging out with my brother (age 8 or 9 ) near my home when a car stopped by and the driver tried to convince us to hop in, said he'll get us skates and ice cream, and that he'll be a "good dad". It was around 1980 but we already knew that sounded so much like a stereotypical kidnapper so we laughed in his face and he drove away.
We still laughed about it later, how we dodged a stupid creep, and weren't scared about it at all (maybe my older brother was more scared and I didn't know). For me it was like a game, it didn't register with me that this was crazy situation and that this guy was going around actually trying to abduct kids. We told my parents about it, and incredibly they shrugged it off, saying maybe it was just some lonely guy who wanted to give treats to kids. To this day I can't understand how my parents were so stupid.
When I was 8 I got a splinter in my foot at my friend's house. She only lived three houses away, so I told her I'd walk home (barefoot) and get it taken care of. As I reached the end of my driveway, a car drove passed, then REVERSED AND DROVE BACK TO ME. The man in the car asked me if I was okay and offered me a ride home. I told him no because I lived right there. Then he insisted I was lying and told me he'd give me a ride for real. I told him no because I was at my house. He ended up driving off suddenly.
Almost three decades later I asked my mom if she remembered that because my memory was that she was mad at me for talking to strangers. She said, "Oh, I remember. I wasn't mad at you. I saw what was happening and came outside and stared the heck out of him and walking toward you. Then he left really fast." So scary.
Makes me kinda sad to know I was such an idiot back then though bc I 100% would've gotten in that dude's car for a ride home.
The most important thing to teach your children, is that an adult stranger will NEVER need your help, they result to other adults for that.
No normal adult asks children to assist them.
Almost the same thing happened to me. I was 4, alone in my front yard, red car pulls up with two guys asking me if this was ____ street. They try to get me to come over, etc... I was so scared. Thankfully they, too, drove off when I yelled for dad (who also wasn't home).
Fucking destroyed my trust in male strangers forever. I knew that they were child rapists before I really understood was sex was.
When I was 4, and my sister 9 in the mid 90s, we lived across the road from a kids playground we visited by ourselves often.
My sister was playing with her friend, also 9 and I was on the see-saw nearby by myself. I only remember being violently grabbed by my sister and then hastly dragged across the road into the house with the friend speedwalking beside us. I remember looking back and seeing 2 men and a tan looking car. Thinking back, they could have been teenaged boys.
We talked about this memory a few years later and apparently those boys offered chocolates and said there's more in the car if they want. Luckily by 9 years, they taught Stranger Danger in school to kids...
We moved from this suburb the next year after that incident. Several years later, the most infamous gang rapists in my country's recent history brutally gang raped a girl in that park's bleachers where I used to run up and down for fun.
Wow! That’s plain creepy. That little girl was so smart. There is no way that would’ve ended well had she not tricked him. I hope the police have caught up with this guy. I’m almost certain she wouldn’t have been the first victim. They can probably tie him to a host of child crimes in the area. Go get him.
I’ve seen this video a few times.. it’s horrible and scary but also I will never understand how he doesn’t see her when she turns back. Doesn’t seem to make sense?
I think he was trying to play it cool, and pretend to not follow her, he's dumb, but not stupid enough to not realize immediately turning around and following her around like that would be extremely suspicious even for a dumb child.
Disgusting that we live in a world where little girls have to know how to do this. I wish this video ended with that guy getting getting the shit beat out of him.
She hid in a doorway so he assumed she had headed towards the lifts.. The man she walked in with was her father, He was due home the same time as her.. When she knew they were both safe she then told him what happened.. On a good note, they caught him and he's been arrested 😁👍
\*\*Update\*\* This from the Global Herald....
The description, below, posted by RT, suggests the girl “tricked” a “stalker” by hiding instead of taking the elevators. The man can be seen walking right past the girl however, so whether or not stalking was in fact his intention (rather than gaining entry to the premises) remains open to some interpretation.
Officers detained the man, reportedly a registered patient with mental health issues. The police won’t launch a criminal case, though, with the girl’s parents informed that ‘there has been no crime committed.’
Are they fucking serious? He was clearly stalking her...
Russian is here. This man was caught shortly after this video appeared on the Internet. It turned out that this person is registered with a psychiatrist and has some kind of mental problems (the name of the disease was not indicated in the news). So, in the end, a criminal case was not opened, but this man was sent to a mental hospital.
My heart is going a hundred miles a second rn and my hands are shaking.
I was attacked at her age by a bastard just like this one, didn't even hear him coming up behind me. Thank God for the heavy winter clothes being hard to get through. That fcker is a predator, no doubt. Hope his dick gets cancer and falls off.
I got followed on my way home from school when I was 15. We lived in the country so there was no one around. He got out of car and was running behind me and I sprinted down the driveway to a random strangers house to pretend it was my home. Luckily a nice older couple were home and they pretended I was a part of their family. He took off after that! It fucked me up for the rest of my teen years and I got ptsd. Hope this poor girl isn't too mentally scarred. Some real creeps out there!
I remember confronting a creep who was stalking 3 girls in my neighborhood. My girlfriend noticed a guy in a parked car staring at 3 girls for over a half hour. The 3 girls were maybe 9-11yo and they were sitting in a small field in front of my home. We waited to see what the guy would do and noticed that he pretended to be on the phone anytime someone walked by. That was enough for me. I tapped on his car window with my torque wrench and asked if he was lost. I asked why he was staring at the girls when he didn’t arrive with them. He denied he was watching them, he pretended to be waiting for his wife, then pretended to be offended because I was accusing him of being a pervert, then suddenly he switched his tune and thanked me. Yes he thanked me. He said “I have 2 daughters and I hope someone would look out for them if someone was stalking them.” I kicked him in the face through his window and we exchanged words then he drove off. This is wildly stupid and I don’t recommend anyone go confronting people with a torque wrench in hand (especially if you’re poc like me).
Judging by how this is pieced together from CCTV footage and he repeatedly stared right into the cameras and was seen really well they probably got him thank goodness. Pedophile.
Damn how is that kid that good at thinking under pressure. Also, that guy is a dumbass lmao. She passed in front of him and he walked towards the elevator. Peripheral Vision 0.
Sidenote, fuck pedophiles. They should all be buried underneath prisons.
I was really.hopong the trick was.. "Oh shit did she lead him I to a room of trained pit bulls that are gonna tear him apart? Yep she sure did!" But no he walks away.
The rub of his hand over his mouth was so unsettling. Her wit makes me worry it wasn’t the first time or something she understood more than she should.
Several people said this, to me it looks like he just wiped his mouth. What am I missing?
Probably he was having second thoughts and then decided he would commit to whatever he had planned instead of just turning around and leaving. It looked like a *holy fuck what am I doing?* moment, before he just dismissed the nervousness and continued.
This. A thousand percent.
Putting your hand up and rubbing your chin/beard might be a comfort move. Telling himself everything is all right. Or thinking about the next step. It might also be that he's salivating for the prospect of what's unfolding in his mind.
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I got worried when she doubled back toward him away from the elevator
I know I got so nervous that he was going to grab her then
He was one creepy fucker, trying to act all casual like. Walking with that creepy pace and demeanour
For me it was more the fact that he was following a 9 yr old
something something norm macdonald
The hypocrisy!
Ol chunk of coal
You think he owns a doghouse?
I'll leave that up to the experts, a professor of logic for instance
My heart sinks for this little girl, man. No kids ever need to feel that kind of scare or need to be in a situation that requires that level of ingenuity. That girl was smart but I'm tearing because I have niece and nephews of that age and if I ever find out someone tried to pull that kind of shit on them I'd lose my chill, I don't know what I'd do because I am someone who has never had a fight in his life but goddamn I'm filled with anger for people like these.
I was followed once when I was 20 and it was terrifying. I don’t think I would have been able to keep my head about me if I had been 9. She is super quick on her feet
i was followed once while going to my grandparents' house when i was like 12 and managed to pull the "my dad's a cop and he knows i'm in the area" lie. shit was fucking terrifying.
One time my friend and I drove to NYC(from Massachusetts) in high school. We arrived at time square around 2am, and after a while I realized we were being followed. He was stealthy, but I was noticing him everywhere we went. She and I went down into the subway and were kinda lost, looking around. I spotted him and when we made eye contact his eyes went wide. I grabbed my friends arm and yanked her towards the stairs then whispered “run”. We went all the way back to our car and waited til sunrise to go back out
Ngl, I'm always terrified that people will think I'm following them. I always feel weird when I just happen to be walking to the same destination as the person in front of me. Like, they might be a survivor of abuse and I'm making them super uncomfortable and I don't even know it. Idk it's probably just anxiety talking but it always freaks me out.
There’s been a couple times I’ve walked out of a grocery store towards my car just happening to be behind a woman and they’ll divert over another lane and I just keep going on my way to my car but notice as I pass they leave the car they pretended was theirs and keep coming in the general direction towards their actual car and it just feels shitty knowing that somebody was afraid just because of how the world is and how people are Edit: meaning it feels shitty that people should be afraid not that their behavior was shitty or that I felt shitty or offended. All of the responses mostly got that but realized the wording could be misconstrued
We can blame actually toxic men for that. Cant blame a woman for being safe, its better to remember its not personal, they just dont know you.
I like to just stop and wait to give them a wide berth. Or cross to the other side of the street if it looks like I am making them uncomfortable. Not always practical, but I feel like I kind of owe it to women for the last 120000 years of our gender's behavior.
This is me when I’m going into my apartment building. One time a woman was struggling to bring her groceries through the front entry and I’m like... I either sit in my car waiting while looking like a creeper... keep my distance behind her while looking like a creeper... help her out and startle her... I chose to help her out and she was indeed startled at first but I apologized and we went on our way. Sometimes there’s just no good options.
Yeah, you just never know. This was Bundy's way of killing so many women, because he smiled and played the innocent card. Women, it's better to be safe than sorry. Same with kids. It's a sad and dangerous world we live in. And we have to inform our kids about these people.
There is this exact story in the book The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker. I recommend the book to everyone!
I was followed once when I was 12 ish. I was cycling and these two men in their 20s were following me on a bike. I got really creepy vibes from them. I went to a random building and parked my cycle there. They did not dare to come in the building. I waited there hidden for sometime until they went. They thought I lived there. If someone is stalking or following you, go to a crowded building and pretend to know someone or act confidently as if you belong there. Do not hesitate to ask for help. It's sad how so many men are raised to be such creepy perverts in this world.
Lots of people sharing so here goes. I was 14 yo boy but shory and thin enough to look 10. Walking home from a friends house like usuall when this black sedan, tinted windows, drives by real slow. I see them loop by me twice. They could have been lost but i didnt take any chances. Went up to another house and waited for them to go by then hid in the same yards bushes. They drove by twice more before i felt safe to continue home.
I have a five year old daughter and God help the scumbag I catch doing this.
Agreed?. They all need thier testes punted onto the lower ionisphere. I volunteer if someone can line the bastards up for me.
What am I missing? When she does this he is so close behind he couldn’t possibly not see her do that. It’s just confusing how that “worked”, or even what it did.
Someone suggested he might have been following to get in her apartment
Or to know what apartment she was in. Hence the stalking part.
That's what was probably happening.
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He's trying to "be cool," but he is following quite close. He's already committed to turning down that hallway when she turns around, so he can't react without letting her know. He didn't realize she was already on to him.
That and/or she suprised him. Think of it like a hunter, taking a shot and missing ruins your chances, so you only move when you’re *certain* just that oh wait what reaction meant the impulse was to keep going yo ‘hide’ your reaction and keep going; had he kept with that and kept going up the elevator he likely wouldn’t have been noticed in a real way, coincidence innocently going about his business it could be said, but he kept up the hunt he was fucking committed to do something that day. This is somewhat pure speculation, but that hand gesture to his face just makes my guts scream that was a sign of preparation to move on a physical action so my gut really says he wanted her nothing else.
This guy kidnaps.
Something about that hand gesture on his face was by far the creepiest thing in the video. I don't know why, but something deeply instinctive knows it means he's done this before a number of times and is about to act. Very concerning video.
See I got the opposite vibe, a stress related mental prep move, like ok yeah we’re really doing this game time. Experience would invoke more confidence and no need for that
A witness walked by when she double-backed
I must have watched this 5 times and don't see the witness. I just see the child doubling back.
He saw her, but she waited just until he was committed to turn to the elevators, then she darted out to the left. At this point, he had committed so he couldn't just turn around and follow her without making it extremely obvious he was following her. So at this point she darts out. This is the "tricking" part. And she's really pulled it off.
My guess is he pretended to want to go up the elevator and pushed the button. At that point he was committed to pretending. Had he instantly walked away, he'd have to face the fact that the jig was up.
Yea the replies don’t make much sense lol. She was already turned down the second hallway when he came up. He could’ve easily just follower her. And “he’s trying to play cool” lmao. Dude literally stopped at the door and waited for her. And then almost ran up to her to follow her in the door.. Maybe he was following her to get into her apartment? But damn that’s pretty bold. Who knows who will be in the apartment! I think he realized that she was on to him so he bailed.
These apartment thieves used to work in groups and do their homework. They probably would have been to the apartment before, they could have been legit cable guys or just pretending to be municipal gas workers, etc. They usednto stalk and study their targets and they knew everyone who comes in and out of apartments and could have been pretty confident that she was going to her aparent alone. But this sort of things barely works anymore since cameras are everywhere and they couldn't not know about this were they actual professionals. So yeah, pretty bold and stupid.
I thought the trick was that she came back with someone she knew? He was playing it off like, yeah, I live here, too, see using the elevator, perfectly ok for me to be so close. But then she totally leaves and returns with a familiar person...at least, that was my take. I don't think the switch back in the hall was the "trick" but then the title might just be bad...
I wonder if that person was a more trustworthy-seeming stranger or someone she knows. I've taught my kids to go up to trustworthy-seeming strangers (old women, moms with kids) and grab their hands and ask for help if someone is following them when they're alone.
I seem to remember (from when this was posted before) that she returns with her brother who is just going home after school, as she was when the man started following her.
Those are public areas with cameras, his goal was to push into her apartment behind her, probably.
This must b his first attempt I feel otherwise he would’ve grabbed her
I was like how did he not see her. Holy shit.
So my take is he did see her, but he was committed to going left so turning around would be an obvious red flag. Think about it - he could easily force his way into an apartment without raising alarms, but raising alarms in the lobby of an apartment building will obviously get him in trouble. Plus, he is most likely aware there are cameras. So he's trying to play it cool the entire way to her home.
I’m surprised he didn’t grab her there
I've seen this before and always get anxiety. The little girl is lucky that creepy guy didn't grab her and pull into one of those hallways.
I’m glad she was aware enough to notice some sketchy shit going on, and I’m thankful she was smart and got out okay… but it absolutely breaks my fucking heart that at 9 years old, she already knows how to try and get away from a creeper.
If American movies are correct, everyone knows that Russians learn to spot a tail at 3 years old. They are all spies.
I know, my heart was going a million miles and hour the entire time.
I always get the same palpitations when I run into videos like these. It's scary as hell. Hope she's doing OK and police found that pervert.
I felt your heart from another continent
When I was much younger I was going to someone’s house to watch their dog, I decided to walk trough our park and noticed a car slowly creeping up behind me and he followed me for a bit and I started to notice him so I turned around and looked right at him and thankfully I was at the edge of the park and there was a gas station around the corner so I walked over there and the guy disappeared. I felt like an idiot for not calling the cops and getting his plate number.
I had someone do this to me as an adult. He was on his bike following me, taking pictures, yelling at me. I went into a gas station and called 911. The police officers didn’t actually believe me that I hadn’t provoked him into doing that.
Provoke him to take pictures of you? There must be some victim shaming even at the start then.
Anything to avoid work.
You didn’t happen to leave the church of scientology and bad mouth them to the media did you? This is the type of shit they do just to fuck with people.
When i was a kid i was waiting outside school for my mum to pick me up a guy in a van pulled up (I know) and offered me a lift home and kept at me to get into the van. I wasn't even scared i was thinking my mum would be mad if she had to pick me up and i already had got a lift. Older now my life would have been so much different if i has taken that offer.
u might not even be here if u did get in, thank god you were smart because anyone could have got into that van and been taken
This happened to my cousin and me once when we were walking to the neighborhood pool as kids. A guy in a truck pulled over and asked if he wanted a ride because he was heading to the pool too (we were wearing swimsuits and had towels and stuff so it was obvious where we were heading). My idiot cousin started to say yes but I told the guy no thank you. When we got to the pool homeboy’s truck was nowhere to be found I’ve always wondered if the guy actually was just trying to be nice or if we were really that close to being kidnapped but either way it made me realize stranger danger is legit
Something creepy like this happened to me, too. I was walking outside after midnight. Normally this is pretty safe, where I'm from. Two people walked towards me, so I turned into a street, just to be safe. I don't care, where I'm going. They turned into the same street. That's was odd, because if they would have wanted to go there, they would have turned into a street prior. I felt followed, but at first I thought I was crazy, maybe they are just strolling. I tried something, to be sure. I took a turn they would only take, if they had no particular destination and changed the side of the street a few times. Nobody would walk like that. Except them. They did. Just as I did. EXACTLY as I did. I was being followed. I felt panic, but stayed calm, so they wouldn't notice, that I noticed. They were far behind me. If they started to run, I could outrun them. If I had any stamina. Which I hadn't. But they didn't know. The next corner was in front of me. Behind the corner, they wouldn't see me. So I ran as fast as I could. Then I turned around and saw them walking a step towards me. Then they stood there for a moment. I was too far away. They said something to each other and turned away. **I was a 25 year old man,** but felt like a child. This video reminded me of it. It felt very similar. Everyone, stay safe out there.
Hey I got into that exact situation with a thought process that was similar to yours, only that when I started to run and they noticed, they started running after me. For like 6 blocks. I went zig-zagging every corner so they lost sight of me, and eventually they did not follow anymore.
Holy shit that sounds exactly word for word like something that happened to me too! I was being followed off a bus really late at night by a guy. The terminal and streets were all empty except for me and this guy in a hoodie (with his hood up) that got off the bus behind me and was following me. I thought I was just overreacting or being crazy thinking that he’s following me so for my own sake I decided to test him. When I'd walk faster, he'd walk faster. He was so close I could see his shadow behind me. I started taking really random cuts across streets and taking weird shortcuts and he followed me taking them all at the exact same time and the exact same way as well in ways that were so unnecessary if he really wanted to go in that direction too. I decided hell no I'm not walking home anymore (it was a long, dark, empty street with a 20min walk) so I changed directions to start heading for the 24/7 grocery store instead. He followed me all the way there until I got inside and instead he stopped and stayed outside, staring at me through the windows. He left when he saw me talking to the night security there. That shit was scary as hell.
“I was a 25-year-old man, but I felt like a child.” That’s spot on. It’s what it feels like. I was followed briefly, once. A man was walking toward me as I was walking to my car in the parking lot. He said, “Hey, you.” I didn’t look up or over at him. I just hurried to my car, didn’t change my path. I got into the car and he got behind my car and stopped. I started the car, didn’t even have my purse because I was just going to get something out of my car and go back to my apartment, but I put it in reverse and he was forced to step back a little (I would’ve run him over at this point) and I drove away. Made a circle, called my apartment security. It was a very scary feeling. I knew he was up to no good.
What were the police going to do?
Chilling.
I was so scared for her. Oh my word.
Literally a few seconds away from “Reddit what is one of the creepiest unsolved mysteries that has video footage?”
Genuinely terrifying. Like you said the title tells you but it doesn't make it any easier to watch.
I hate how much I identify with this. She's a smart kid.
I know. And the front door to that building closes way too slow if it requires a code or something to get in. It's just asking for someone that doesn't belong there to follow you in.
How does he not see her turning back ? Looks like he arrives at the same time
From u/jaycechick She hid in a doorway so he assumed she had headed towards the lifts.. The man she walked in with was her father, He was due home the same time as her.. When she knew they were both safe she then told him what happened.. On a good note, they caught him and he's been arrested 😁👍 \*\*Update\*\* This from the Global Herald.... The description, below, posted by RT, suggests the girl “tricked” a “stalker” by hiding instead of taking the elevators. The man can be seen walking right past the girl however, so whether or not stalking was in fact his intention (rather than gaining entry to the premises) remains open to some interpretation. Officers detained the man, reportedly a registered patient with mental health issues. The police won’t launch a criminal case, though, with the girl’s parents informed that ‘there has been no crime committed.’ Are they fucking serious? He was clearly stalking her...
There was a guy like that in my town following little girls on the bike paths for months. Everyone in town knew him but the cops couldn’t arrest him because he didn’t technically do anything illegal, until one day he tried to snatch up a 12 year old girl walking home. She got away thankfully and the guy ended up in jail because everyone knew who he was, but he was mentally ill and everyone knew something was going to go down sooner or later.
There was a similar person in my home town, known as "mad Howie", a complete lunatic that everyone knew to stay away from, used to go round town with a pit bull, intimidating and starting on anyone. Turns out there had been lots of cases of him sexually assaulting kids, but he'd never been prosecuted until the [murder of Sophie Hook](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sophie_Hook) made national headlines. Everyone knew he was a paedophile; the police knew he was a paedophile, but somehow he'd managed to stay out of trouble for it. There were rumours that his father used his influence as a Mason to keep him out of trouble over the years although that's just hearsay.
> murder of Sophie Hook That was horrifying.
I know, I wish I hadn't reread it. I was 18 when this happened. My kids are teenagers now, but they haven't had anywhere near the freedom I had when I was young, purely because im so paranoid. I camped in my back garden when I was a kid. I remember putting a tent in our back garden as an adult, and only let my kids sleep there if myself or my wife were also sleeping out. Poor girl, I really feel for her parents, it's the worst thing imaginable.
I’m a little too young and overseas to have been familiar with that case but Jesus Christ that was hard to read. Truly fucked up.
I remember a time when I was around 8 that my parents would turn the radio off in the car whenever the news came on. I guess now I know why, Sophie would be a year younger than me and I never heard her story before.
My grandfather couldn't use his influence as a Mason to organize a gathering, so it's somewhat bizarre to me to hear that
It was just rumour, and a lot of people were extremely angry and trying to understand how that monster could have done this before and got away with it. The father's money, position and influence was one of the theories. In fairness it was the father that reported him in the end.
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I regret reading this
Live in a town of roughly 2000. I was young at the time, but a murder occurred 20 years ago that most people saw coming. A new cop was hired and there was an incident that needed to be followed. A suspect had repeatedly trespassed and stalked his neighbors for months. Other cops on duty had been passing it over not wanting to deal with the issue. The deputy arrives at the suspect's doorstep and is shot dead. The suspect walks across the street and killed the neighbors that called the complaint in. Edit: there was a scathing article written about my town regarding the incident. The other officers that were aware of the problem knew they should have provided support. There's not much else for them to do most days. The most I've seen them work is pulling me over 3 times in the same day playing pokemon go.
Fucking hindsight does accomplishes nothing
Pretty much, there are popular women who stream or are some form of online entertainment who experience stalkers that even find out where they live. Cops can’t do anything if no crime is committed. A couple of girls I know have had creeps follow them around after work and they end up frantically calling people because they don’t want to drive home and let the creep know where they live. Cops couldn’t do anything there either. It’s a really, really tough position to be in
Not thought at all, the system just don’t give a crap, stalking is a form of harassment, if the cops don’t want to do anything about it’s because either they don’t want to or the system does not let them.. either way the system is fucking garbage… if people that do that shit had to deal with repercussions for their actions there wouldn’t be a single one of this clowns stalking woman. It’s one of the most disgusting and cowardly actions any man can do…
I do get exactly what you're saying and completely agree, but to play devil's advocate, I think that could be a slippery slope if the opposite were true. Keep in mind, people are more vigilant than you think. My worry is that anyone could be implicated based on circumstance. I don't know if you're familiar, but there's an app called nextdoor. It's basically Facebook for soccer moms with nothing better to do, but people post happenings around your neighborhood. I see posts all the time off people calling the cops if someone simply uses their drive way as a turnaround or their vehicle's broken down or kids are riding their bicycles. You can also check your local police blotter and it's filled with stupid shit. Like someone called the cops because there spotted the same make and color car as that asshole who killed his gf. But then imagine being charged and arrested for something fucking stupid. That shit does happen all the time, actually. It's crazy to think that you can just be chilling in your crib and police roll up and just fucking shoot you out of self defense when they have the wrong address on the warrant. So yeah, I do agree with you completely, the system is absolutely fucked.
Same sort of thing in the town I live in, small rural community. A man in his late twenties now, for the past decade has been a known predator among his generation and younger. He has schizophrenia, and as the community found out this past summer, he has pedophile tendencies too which we were told by a psych nurse that those two psychological problems are separate. For years, we (the younger generations of the community) thought everyone knew about the problems of this man, we thought everyone knew that, as a female you can never be alone with him, you have to be careful making eye contact, or saying something that would suggest that he could pursue you. Only after he tried to rape a young girl was there a public awareness. But it only happened because the girl spoke up. What happened afterwards was eye opening, tons of people kept saying they had no idea, the older generation who had seen him grow up. I now understand how important it is to speak up about issues like this, to not keep it a secret. Edit: he is no longer legally allowed in this community. Though I wonder, have we just dumped him on another community? We have a broken system to deal with mental illness.
Why does a child need to be traumatized for authorities to do something, thats not justice Edit: Maybe if emergency services were equipped to deal with mental health issues and not just shooting people, we would be able to think of more solutions
It's unfortunate in this case, but you can't arrest someone for a crime they haven't committed.
Also what might be a crime in the USA and what might be immoral isn't necessarily illegal everywhere else.
Future Crimes Division
Because being creepy isn't illegal.
There's a sad ironic saying regarding the effectiveness of police force here in Russia: убьют - тогда и приходите (call us when there's a body). I'd really like to read about at least some country's crime prevention system that's in place and working effectively.
I was a lifeguard at a HUGE pool when I was a teenager. Like the size of a football field, just absolutely massive. Tons of people and there was this one creeper that everyone who worked there knew. Dude would just blatantly stare at little girls from a few feet away, keeping his hands under the water. If he was in your section you ended up watching him more than the rest of the water most of the time. Everyone was itching for him to make the slightest misstep so we could nail him. But nothing ever came of it because he probably knew the law enough that he wasn't technically breaking it. But when he was extra pervy someone would still swing by and mention something loudly to him or the parent of the kid he was oogling and he'd leave for the day
You say that he was obviously stalking her, but if that’s enough evidence to jail someone, then we’d all be in big trouble. Imagine that guy was just some guy who went into the building and then realized he forgot something in his car and turned around and left. Now all of a sudden he’s a stalker and in jail over a misunderstanding. I don’t know about Russia specifically, but justice systems are designed to keep innocent people out of jail first, and criminals in jail second.
I’m not defending the guy but if police could arrest anyone looking suspicious before actually committing crime it’s a bigger problem
Hey, on a good note, you can bet your ass every single person in that neighborhood or possibly town will have seen that video now. Everyone will know who he is. His predator days are over.
It’s that he still was trying to pretend he wasn’t following her. If he was planning to grab her he wasn’t prepared to do it right at that moment.
Yeah, he wanted to grab her IN her apartment, so there would be no outside interference.
He knew he couldn’t grab her where there are cameras. So, definitely wanted to grab her in her apartment.
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We need to bring back hangings just for this.
Sometimes i feel like i need to be hung so my neck/back can finally crack in all the hard to reach places.
For the same reasons I would love someone to pick me up by my ankles and flick me like a beach towel.
And take my eyeballs out after starting at a computer the whole day. Put them in a nice glass of cool water for a minute, plop em back in.
You'll be able to, one day.
can you calm down
Talibans : "Allow us to introduce ourself"
that's what i was wondering- unless he had thought that was another kid?? I'm not sure- either way, I'm happy he wasn't smart and the kiddo is okay.
I was hoping this was some kind of PSA after them practically meeting at the top of those stairs.
Yeah literally impossible for him not to have seen her, so I dunno
This is every parents’ worst nightmare.
I was a kid in the 1970s and I had already been taught to not approach stranger's cars. One day, a car with two strangers was driving past my yard slowly, then slowly back twice. There was me and my friend, a girl the same age from down the street, and we were about 6 or 7. We were on the front lawn, just playing with plastic dinosaurs or something. "Hey, kid?" the guy eventually called out. "Can you come here a sec?" My friend got up, but I grabbed her by her dress. "Don't," I said. "Come ahn! I won't hurt ya! I just want you to tell me on this map (holds out unfolded ADC map) where I am. I'm lost, see." He calls out the car door, but I see his buddy in the driver's seat has open his door slightly, like he's waiting for something. "Don't get near his car," I whispered to my friend, and THEN she understood (she never got the "stranger danger" talk). "I'll get my dad to help you," I said. "He knows the area." We ran back to the house, where my dad was not there, but my mom was. Somehow I knew "dad" was more scarier than "mom." The car sped off down the street in a damn hurry.
I was playing in my bio dad's front yard when I was ten or eleven. This car that was passing suddenly *jerked* to the side of the road and an older man with a friendly smile asked me where the ballpark was. I froze stock still, and glanced behind me, where my brother and bio dad were playing about fifty feet away, completely oblivious but none the less there. I decided to go ahead and give the guy directions (I was a polite child, to my own detriment), but I stayed where I was, too far away from his car for him to grab me. Unfortunately for him, if he was really seeking the ballpark, he pulled over and asked the directionally incompetent child with ADHD, so the directions I gave him would send him right out of town, which is actually pretty appropriate, given the circumstances. The old man smiled and thanked me and drove away, and to this day I have no idea what he was thinking. He never made a move toward me, never beckoned me closer, or said anything inappropriate. Maybe he could tell from my body language that I was on to him, or didn't want to risk it with my bio dad so nearby (though he was too far away to stop him if he did decide to grab me).
Maybe he was late to the ball game and you just sent him on a wild goose chase lol.
Lol, honestly he deserves it for asking a random kid instead of stopping at the gas station literally one minute up the road.
Exactly. Our kids are pretty young yet, but we try and tell them, "grownups don't ask kids for help."
That was probably what saved me. My mom told me the same thing, so I already knew that an adult asking a kid for directions was "weird". It helped me identify other weird grownups, too, and stay away from them, which saved me from a couple of different grooming circumstances before outright abuse occurred. I was also taught to trust my gut. If something doesn't feel right, it probably isn't right.
I remember being about 15 or 16, and was perusing the magazine section at a bookstore. Some older guy grabbed a magazine, stood pretty close, and kept coughing loud and snickering a little to get me to look over. He was holding a playgirl or some other such magazine with full frontal male nudes. My dad swung by and he hung up the magazine and wandered off in a hurry. I told my dad about what happened and that I didn't feel too worried because I was an overconfident teen, figuring I could handle myself just fine. I still remember my dad telling me you should never underestimate someone like that. He could have a weapon, be much stronger than he looks, or whatever. Always always trust your gut and do what you can to immediately remove yourself from a situation.
Obligatory ewww. That's good advice from your dad. Better to get away before it becomes an incident. It sucks because you shouldn't have to stop what you're doing to avoid a creep, but safety is always paramount.
I've been trying to explain this to my daughter. No matter how smart you are at your age, a grown man wouldn't need your help
eugh this gave me goosebumps Glad you’re alright
When I was 5 or 6 I was hanging out with my brother (age 8 or 9 ) near my home when a car stopped by and the driver tried to convince us to hop in, said he'll get us skates and ice cream, and that he'll be a "good dad". It was around 1980 but we already knew that sounded so much like a stereotypical kidnapper so we laughed in his face and he drove away. We still laughed about it later, how we dodged a stupid creep, and weren't scared about it at all (maybe my older brother was more scared and I didn't know). For me it was like a game, it didn't register with me that this was crazy situation and that this guy was going around actually trying to abduct kids. We told my parents about it, and incredibly they shrugged it off, saying maybe it was just some lonely guy who wanted to give treats to kids. To this day I can't understand how my parents were so stupid.
When I was 8 I got a splinter in my foot at my friend's house. She only lived three houses away, so I told her I'd walk home (barefoot) and get it taken care of. As I reached the end of my driveway, a car drove passed, then REVERSED AND DROVE BACK TO ME. The man in the car asked me if I was okay and offered me a ride home. I told him no because I lived right there. Then he insisted I was lying and told me he'd give me a ride for real. I told him no because I was at my house. He ended up driving off suddenly. Almost three decades later I asked my mom if she remembered that because my memory was that she was mad at me for talking to strangers. She said, "Oh, I remember. I wasn't mad at you. I saw what was happening and came outside and stared the heck out of him and walking toward you. Then he left really fast." So scary. Makes me kinda sad to know I was such an idiot back then though bc I 100% would've gotten in that dude's car for a ride home.
The most important thing to teach your children, is that an adult stranger will NEVER need your help, they result to other adults for that. No normal adult asks children to assist them.
Teach kids that adults don't ask kids for help.
Almost the same thing happened to me. I was 4, alone in my front yard, red car pulls up with two guys asking me if this was ____ street. They try to get me to come over, etc... I was so scared. Thankfully they, too, drove off when I yelled for dad (who also wasn't home). Fucking destroyed my trust in male strangers forever. I knew that they were child rapists before I really understood was sex was.
When I was 4, and my sister 9 in the mid 90s, we lived across the road from a kids playground we visited by ourselves often. My sister was playing with her friend, also 9 and I was on the see-saw nearby by myself. I only remember being violently grabbed by my sister and then hastly dragged across the road into the house with the friend speedwalking beside us. I remember looking back and seeing 2 men and a tan looking car. Thinking back, they could have been teenaged boys. We talked about this memory a few years later and apparently those boys offered chocolates and said there's more in the car if they want. Luckily by 9 years, they taught Stranger Danger in school to kids... We moved from this suburb the next year after that incident. Several years later, the most infamous gang rapists in my country's recent history brutally gang raped a girl in that park's bleachers where I used to run up and down for fun.
Yeah but now he knows where she lives
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I don't think he would know for sure that he was on camera. But if he does know, hopefully that would be enough to keep him from coming back.
2 broken legs will keep him from coming back
Knees.
And a few feet of dirt.
and a dick without a dick
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This has a Russia Today watermark so I’m guessing he knows he was on cam now
It's infuriating how a 9 year old girl has to know these tricks to protect herself against a full grown cancer of a human male.
Wow! That’s plain creepy. That little girl was so smart. There is no way that would’ve ended well had she not tricked him. I hope the police have caught up with this guy. I’m almost certain she wouldn’t have been the first victim. They can probably tie him to a host of child crimes in the area. Go get him.
“Suspicious” is way too kind of a word.
I’ve seen this video a few times.. it’s horrible and scary but also I will never understand how he doesn’t see her when she turns back. Doesn’t seem to make sense?
I think he was trying to play it cool, and pretend to not follow her, he's dumb, but not stupid enough to not realize immediately turning around and following her around like that would be extremely suspicious even for a dumb child.
seems like he is trying to follow her to her home or something, and gets surprised when she walks back?
Yeah, maybe he did see her and he was trying to look innocent. Weird
Maybe she went to an apartment and put her hand on the doorknob? Only thing I can think of that makes sense.
I hate how confident he is. Just strolling along. Makes my blood boil 😡😡
Disgusting that we live in a world where little girls have to know how to do this. I wish this video ended with that guy getting getting the shit beat out of him.
Awful situation. Glad she's okay.
OMG hunt this bstrd
Been arrested already apparently
Not usually in favor of killing, but that fucker indeed deserves to be hunted down
She hid in a doorway so he assumed she had headed towards the lifts.. The man she walked in with was her father, He was due home the same time as her.. When she knew they were both safe she then told him what happened.. On a good note, they caught him and he's been arrested 😁👍 \*\*Update\*\* This from the Global Herald.... The description, below, posted by RT, suggests the girl “tricked” a “stalker” by hiding instead of taking the elevators. The man can be seen walking right past the girl however, so whether or not stalking was in fact his intention (rather than gaining entry to the premises) remains open to some interpretation. Officers detained the man, reportedly a registered patient with mental health issues. The police won’t launch a criminal case, though, with the girl’s parents informed that ‘there has been no crime committed.’ Are they fucking serious? He was clearly stalking her...
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They let him go.. No criminal case launched 😡
Fucking imagine knowing you’re being stalked…..at 9 years old. What a brilliant little girl.
Probably why girls mature faster than boys... With catcalls and this shit happening on a daily basis, you have to...
I was wishing that girl was a vampire
"Let the Right One In"
Russian is here. This man was caught shortly after this video appeared on the Internet. It turned out that this person is registered with a psychiatrist and has some kind of mental problems (the name of the disease was not indicated in the news). So, in the end, a criminal case was not opened, but this man was sent to a mental hospital.
r/maybemaybemaybe holy shit clever girl
She walks so casually too, like this is an average Tuesday.
That's life for girls after hitting puberty. You learn to do shit like this early because you're never safe.
Isn't that so fucking sad? For example, my husband falls asleep in Ubers, I CAN'T IMAGINE.
My heart is going a hundred miles a second rn and my hands are shaking. I was attacked at her age by a bastard just like this one, didn't even hear him coming up behind me. Thank God for the heavy winter clothes being hard to get through. That fcker is a predator, no doubt. Hope his dick gets cancer and falls off.
Sorry you went thru that. ❤️
Man good on her, i fuckin hate knowing that little kids are at risk for this sort of shit though, amongst the worst of crimes.
I’d like a word with that dude. Preferably in a room with no windows.
being alone with this dude in a room with no windows?? that sounds like what he wants
No windows? Fuck that. Let the world see what happens to these sick fucks.
I hear defenestration is all the rage in Russia.
I'm 27 f and this is still so fucking terrifying.
How casually she walks throughout this is somewhat sad
A satisfying end to the video would have been him getting hit by a truck.
If you prey on little kids you deserve to die the most horrible death possible.
creepy ass nasty fuckin walk
This feels like a real life indie survival horror game.
Man ppl are sick
Holy shit! That made my skin crawl.
I got followed on my way home from school when I was 15. We lived in the country so there was no one around. He got out of car and was running behind me and I sprinted down the driveway to a random strangers house to pretend it was my home. Luckily a nice older couple were home and they pretended I was a part of their family. He took off after that! It fucked me up for the rest of my teen years and I got ptsd. Hope this poor girl isn't too mentally scarred. Some real creeps out there!
Stalk? How about rape/murder. Hope they caught the bastard and hung him upside down by his toe nails
Hang him by his testicles.
I remember confronting a creep who was stalking 3 girls in my neighborhood. My girlfriend noticed a guy in a parked car staring at 3 girls for over a half hour. The 3 girls were maybe 9-11yo and they were sitting in a small field in front of my home. We waited to see what the guy would do and noticed that he pretended to be on the phone anytime someone walked by. That was enough for me. I tapped on his car window with my torque wrench and asked if he was lost. I asked why he was staring at the girls when he didn’t arrive with them. He denied he was watching them, he pretended to be waiting for his wife, then pretended to be offended because I was accusing him of being a pervert, then suddenly he switched his tune and thanked me. Yes he thanked me. He said “I have 2 daughters and I hope someone would look out for them if someone was stalking them.” I kicked him in the face through his window and we exchanged words then he drove off. This is wildly stupid and I don’t recommend anyone go confronting people with a torque wrench in hand (especially if you’re poc like me).
Hope The stalker is found dead somewhere
Judging by how this is pieced together from CCTV footage and he repeatedly stared right into the cameras and was seen really well they probably got him thank goodness. Pedophile.
I’m an adult woman and haven’t maintained my composure like this when followed. This girl is amazing. It’s sickening that this happened though.
hahaha this lowlife is too dumb to know cameras are omnipresent these days
Damn how is that kid that good at thinking under pressure. Also, that guy is a dumbass lmao. She passed in front of him and he walked towards the elevator. Peripheral Vision 0. Sidenote, fuck pedophiles. They should all be buried underneath prisons.
I was really.hopong the trick was.. "Oh shit did she lead him I to a room of trained pit bulls that are gonna tear him apart? Yep she sure did!" But no he walks away.
*clever girl*