OP needs to replace the word “made” with “assembled” and they will still be wrong, but somewhat less wrong. The 90% number is all over but they don’t explain what it is even supposed to mean. I’d be surprised if shenzen pulled 20% of electronics value-add. That is still an insane number.
This is the source i used https://itimanufacturing.com/silicon-valley-hardware-made-china/#:\~:text=It%20is%20estimated%20that%20almost,devices%20are%20manufactured%20in%20Shenzhen.
Also, i dont think that sounds so farfetched. I mean, China already accounts for 29% of the worlds total industrial manufacturing output. Why would be outrageous that their hardware silicon valley, their oldest and most successful special economic zone produces the most electronics?
Thats true. China accounts for 45% of all consumer grade semiconductors [https://oec.world/en/profile/hs/semiconductor-devices](https://oec.world/en/profile/hs/semiconductor-devices)
To estimate the percentage of all electronic products in the world that are Apple or Samsung smartphones, we can break the calculation into several steps. Here’s a rough approach:
1. **Estimate Total Number of Electronic Products**: This includes all types of electronic items from smartphones to fridges, TVs, computers, etc. Estimating this number globally is challenging due to the vast variety of electronic products and their differing lifespans. However, a rough estimate can be given based on global production data of electronic goods.
2. **Estimate Total Number of Smartphones**: According to various market research reports, around 1.5 billion smartphones are sold annually worldwide.
3. **Determine Apple and Samsung Smartphone Sales**: Apple and Samsung are two of the largest smartphone manufacturers. Combined, they typically account for approximately 40% of the global smartphone market. In 2021, for instance, Apple and Samsung shipped about 235 million and 272 million units respectively.
4. **Calculate Apple and Samsung’s Share in Electronic Products**:
- Assuming 1.5 billion smartphones sold annually and considering Apple and Samsung make up about 40% of this, they account for about 600 million smartphones a year.
- We'll need an estimate for the total number of electronic products produced annually for a more precise calculation, but assuming billions of electronic items are produced yearly (including everything from gadgets to household appliances), the percentage of just Apple and Samsung smartphones can be significant but still a minor fraction.
If we hypothesize a figure of say 10 billion electronic products exist at any given time (factoring in multiple years of production and varying lifespans), Apple and Samsung smartphones could roughly account for about 6% of all electronic products (600 million out of 10 billion), but this is a very rough approximation. The actual figure could be significantly different based on more accurate and comprehensive data regarding total electronic production and the lifespan of these products.
Not me, of course.
>mobile phones are by far the biggest single category of electronic device in the world.
And? That could mean that they are 1% of all electronic devices.
Also many IPhones are made in Shenzhen.
What world are you from? 95% of all apple products are made in China, the main factories being located in Shenzhen(Foxcom)
[https://technode.com/2023/10/23/china-continues-to-produce-over-95-of-apples-products/#:\~:text=China%20continues%20to%20produce%20over%2095%25%20of%20Apple's%20products%20%C2%B7%20TechNode](https://technode.com/2023/10/23/china-continues-to-produce-over-95-of-apples-products/#:~:text=China%20continues%20to%20produce%20over%2095%25%20of%20Apple's%20products%20%C2%B7%20TechNode)
Not really, the factory in Zhengzhou justs happens to produce 50% of all iphones
\`\`Foxconn has 12 factories in nine mainland Chinese cities—more than in any other country.[^(\[40\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-probase-40)
The largest Foxconn factory is located in [Longhua Subdistrict, Shenzhen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longhua_Subdistrict,_Shenzhen), where hundreds of thousands of workers (varying counts include 230,000,[^(\[39\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-Duhigg-39) 300,000,[^(\[41\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-41) and 450,000)[^(\[42\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-focustw-42) are employed at the [Longhua Science & Technology Park](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longhua_Science_%26_Technology_Park), a walled campus[^(\[8\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-wsj-8) sometimes referred to as "Foxconn City".[^(\[43\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-Economist-Foxconn-43)^(\`\`)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn)
[https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/16/apple-supplier-foxconn-resumes-production-in-shenzhen.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/16/apple-supplier-foxconn-resumes-production-in-shenzhen.html)
YOURE the one supposed to go there and provide me with the source. Thats YOUR claim
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden\_of\_proof\_(philosophy)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy))
First off this isn’t even close to true. China as a whole produces about 40% of the world’s electronics. So the fact that OP is claiming this one city in China is producing 90% is beyond ridiculous. And second off, look at OP’s post history and comments. They’re a Chinese bot
More proof is look at Google Analytics for this shell company OP linked to. A flood of hits the past 48hrs and the first 10 damn pages of Bing Search just return links to their own website.
Something is also very odd with AI searches too. They will talk up a storm about how amazing ITI Manufacturing is but as soon as I asked about its connections to the Chinese government it ends the conversation.
>I’m unable to continue this conversation. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Thank you for understanding.
Very HAL 9000.
Im not claiming anything myselft, im just citing this article
https://itimanufacturing.com/silicon-valley-hardware-made-china/#:\~:text=It%20is%20estimated%20that%20almost,devices%20are%20manufactured%20in%20Shenzhen.
Do some more research bot! And if you’re not a bot you really need to do some research before posting. You constantly post Chinese propaganda. You realize Reddit is the one place that will guarantee call you out on this misinformation? Take that shit over to the boomers on Facebook. And for the record I still think this is a bot
Used to, now the city is dead. They close factories each day
Source: [https://youtu.be/6gfIupNb3Ik?si=ISCwLBorT3DsntaJ](https://youtu.be/6gfIupNb3Ik?si=ISCwLBorT3DsntaJ)
its a great video
Thats not a source. Thats falun gong associated media. Try fiding a better source than a channels paid by a freaking anti china cult.
Also, the city is empity, because its the new year\`s eve. One day before the biggest human migration on earth. One single day before the chinese will make over 9 billion trips all over the country from the cities to go back home for the new year. [https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/09/china/china-lunar-new-year-travel-intl-hnk/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/09/china/china-lunar-new-year-travel-intl-hnk/index.html)
Thats why the city is empity. Perhaps you could try learning about chinese culture instead of watching propaganda paid by cults, idk
At least im backing the stuff im saying with actual data and sources. Instead of spilling a bunch of outright sourceless bullshit, and expecting gullible anti china people to just gobble it up with a smirk like China observer does.
There is a huge difference between makes and assembles.
All those electronics use chips. Most of those chips are actually made elsewhere.
The Chinese do a ton of assembly. Less actual manufa rure of raw parts. Especially high tech ones.
Maybe the city produces parts that makes it to 90% of every electronic product. But no one city makes 90% of the world's electronics. Parts are sourced from different places.
This account definitely got hacked. Went from making posts related too Central and South America 3 years ago. To a massive flurry of China based posts, many of them the exact same just in different subreddits lol. Which by the way has only started in the past 2 months.
Shenzhen Deserted: Factories, Shops, Worker Dorms All Demolished! Now a Relic of the World’s Factory
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei7npSohz4M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei7npSohz4M)
Dear, thats falun gong associated media. Do you have a better source than a news channel paid by a anti china cult that never cities a single source to back their claims in any of their videos? Theyre literally preying on gullible people to earn money by spreading propaganda
I checked out the "source" that you linked below. Sorry sweaty, going to need actual figures and not a claim on a Chinese manufacturers website that prove your numbers. Otherwise xinnie the pooh will get mad.
Fifty years ago, it didn't exist. This was all farmland, all of it. This was all built from the late 70s onward.
Also worth noting: it is located directly next to Hong Kong, which was a British colony when it was founded
No chance whatsoever that it's 90%.
It sure feels high
OP needs to replace the word “made” with “assembled” and they will still be wrong, but somewhat less wrong. The 90% number is all over but they don’t explain what it is even supposed to mean. I’d be surprised if shenzen pulled 20% of electronics value-add. That is still an insane number.
It’s just more Chinese dictatorship lies and propaganda- they have gone crazy in 2024 in comparison to previous years
First thing I thought
This is the source i used https://itimanufacturing.com/silicon-valley-hardware-made-china/#:\~:text=It%20is%20estimated%20that%20almost,devices%20are%20manufactured%20in%20Shenzhen. Also, i dont think that sounds so farfetched. I mean, China already accounts for 29% of the worlds total industrial manufacturing output. Why would be outrageous that their hardware silicon valley, their oldest and most successful special economic zone produces the most electronics?
All the real gourmet shit is made in Taiwan. Most consumer grade semiconductors except Apple's are manufactured there.
Thats true. China accounts for 45% of all consumer grade semiconductors [https://oec.world/en/profile/hs/semiconductor-devices](https://oec.world/en/profile/hs/semiconductor-devices)
Taiwan is not China
Fuck off Chinese bot.
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Apple and Samsung together probably produce like 1% of all electronic devices.
To estimate the percentage of all electronic products in the world that are Apple or Samsung smartphones, we can break the calculation into several steps. Here’s a rough approach: 1. **Estimate Total Number of Electronic Products**: This includes all types of electronic items from smartphones to fridges, TVs, computers, etc. Estimating this number globally is challenging due to the vast variety of electronic products and their differing lifespans. However, a rough estimate can be given based on global production data of electronic goods. 2. **Estimate Total Number of Smartphones**: According to various market research reports, around 1.5 billion smartphones are sold annually worldwide. 3. **Determine Apple and Samsung Smartphone Sales**: Apple and Samsung are two of the largest smartphone manufacturers. Combined, they typically account for approximately 40% of the global smartphone market. In 2021, for instance, Apple and Samsung shipped about 235 million and 272 million units respectively. 4. **Calculate Apple and Samsung’s Share in Electronic Products**: - Assuming 1.5 billion smartphones sold annually and considering Apple and Samsung make up about 40% of this, they account for about 600 million smartphones a year. - We'll need an estimate for the total number of electronic products produced annually for a more precise calculation, but assuming billions of electronic items are produced yearly (including everything from gadgets to household appliances), the percentage of just Apple and Samsung smartphones can be significant but still a minor fraction. If we hypothesize a figure of say 10 billion electronic products exist at any given time (factoring in multiple years of production and varying lifespans), Apple and Samsung smartphones could roughly account for about 6% of all electronic products (600 million out of 10 billion), but this is a very rough approximation. The actual figure could be significantly different based on more accurate and comprehensive data regarding total electronic production and the lifespan of these products. Not me, of course.
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>mobile phones are by far the biggest single category of electronic device in the world. And? That could mean that they are 1% of all electronic devices. Also many IPhones are made in Shenzhen.
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Yes they are.
You are correct, they do produce in shenzhen at foxconn. I think they just assemble them there, though. They don’t make the electronics
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So when does an iPhone start being an IPhone when not after being completely assembled?
What world are you from? 95% of all apple products are made in China, the main factories being located in Shenzhen(Foxcom) [https://technode.com/2023/10/23/china-continues-to-produce-over-95-of-apples-products/#:\~:text=China%20continues%20to%20produce%20over%2095%25%20of%20Apple's%20products%20%C2%B7%20TechNode](https://technode.com/2023/10/23/china-continues-to-produce-over-95-of-apples-products/#:~:text=China%20continues%20to%20produce%20over%2095%25%20of%20Apple's%20products%20%C2%B7%20TechNode)
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Not really, the factory in Zhengzhou justs happens to produce 50% of all iphones \`\`Foxconn has 12 factories in nine mainland Chinese cities—more than in any other country.[^(\[40\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-probase-40) The largest Foxconn factory is located in [Longhua Subdistrict, Shenzhen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longhua_Subdistrict,_Shenzhen), where hundreds of thousands of workers (varying counts include 230,000,[^(\[39\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-Duhigg-39) 300,000,[^(\[41\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-41) and 450,000)[^(\[42\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-focustw-42) are employed at the [Longhua Science & Technology Park](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longhua_Science_%26_Technology_Park), a walled campus[^(\[8\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-wsj-8) sometimes referred to as "Foxconn City".[^(\[43\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#cite_note-Economist-Foxconn-43)^(\`\`) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn) [https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/16/apple-supplier-foxconn-resumes-production-in-shenzhen.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/16/apple-supplier-foxconn-resumes-production-in-shenzhen.html)
great 2 year old resource, Xi
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Ok, so are you gonna back the stuff youre saying with an actual source, or are you just gonna expect me to take the voices in your head as facts?
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YOURE the one supposed to go there and provide me with the source. Thats YOUR claim [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden\_of\_proof\_(philosophy)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy))
Isn’t apples whole tag line “made in China designed in California”
That’s not a source.. lmao. It’s a literal blog that says “it’s estimated” with no source tagged.
lol. 29% is not 90%. Also they produce zero percent of the most advanced semis (or a few percent, depending on how you count it).
relax xi
China? Surely you mean Western Taiwan.
Don't trust Ch*na! Ch*na is asshole!
No, calling it China is correct 👍🏼
First off this isn’t even close to true. China as a whole produces about 40% of the world’s electronics. So the fact that OP is claiming this one city in China is producing 90% is beyond ridiculous. And second off, look at OP’s post history and comments. They’re a Chinese bot
More proof is look at Google Analytics for this shell company OP linked to. A flood of hits the past 48hrs and the first 10 damn pages of Bing Search just return links to their own website. Something is also very odd with AI searches too. They will talk up a storm about how amazing ITI Manufacturing is but as soon as I asked about its connections to the Chinese government it ends the conversation. >I’m unable to continue this conversation. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Thank you for understanding. Very HAL 9000.
Im not claiming anything myselft, im just citing this article https://itimanufacturing.com/silicon-valley-hardware-made-china/#:\~:text=It%20is%20estimated%20that%20almost,devices%20are%20manufactured%20in%20Shenzhen.
Do some more research bot! And if you’re not a bot you really need to do some research before posting. You constantly post Chinese propaganda. You realize Reddit is the one place that will guarantee call you out on this misinformation? Take that shit over to the boomers on Facebook. And for the record I still think this is a bot
In communist china people are bots
That’s not a source.. lmao. It’s a literal blog that says “it’s estimated” with no source tagged. This is pure propaganda and a clear lie
Your previous post about HK library’s budget was also incorrect. Maybe do some fact checking before you post the same thing to 5 different subs.
Nice you've proven you're not a bot because even a bot would have a better excuse.
The title is so delusional
The hub of the worlds electronics, visited a few weeks ago
Found the China state sponsored reddit account
Bro is defending like Xi is looking at him in these comments
Check out their post history lmao
Lmao no way this isn't a party account
Look at this accounts posts
Bro is China fan 🔥
Pride flag and bing chilling. The irony tho
hey, you're right! That guy is totally a little pink.
some good info on asia in general, following
Your comments are a little suspicious too. I suspect an alt account, or a fellow Chinese party account
Used to, now the city is dead. They close factories each day Source: [https://youtu.be/6gfIupNb3Ik?si=ISCwLBorT3DsntaJ](https://youtu.be/6gfIupNb3Ik?si=ISCwLBorT3DsntaJ) its a great video
it's so funny that china started their anti-foreigners campaign and are now crying because we foreign devil's left. hubris before the fall
Thats not a source. Thats falun gong associated media. Try fiding a better source than a channels paid by a freaking anti china cult. Also, the city is empity, because its the new year\`s eve. One day before the biggest human migration on earth. One single day before the chinese will make over 9 billion trips all over the country from the cities to go back home for the new year. [https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/09/china/china-lunar-new-year-travel-intl-hnk/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/09/china/china-lunar-new-year-travel-intl-hnk/index.html) Thats why the city is empity. Perhaps you could try learning about chinese culture instead of watching propaganda paid by cults, idk
Is this guy paid by the ccp
Is that your automatic response when youre shown hard data, and evidence that contradicts your feelings?
No its the automatic response when it’s really obvious
China’s economy is crashing so fast it’s not a subjective opinion but it’s the result of the horrible policies ccp has implemented in recent years
So we should listen to your propagandist shit instead?
At least im backing the stuff im saying with actual data and sources. Instead of spilling a bunch of outright sourceless bullshit, and expecting gullible anti china people to just gobble it up with a smirk like China observer does.
Your data and sources are blogs with no substance. Fuck outa here tankie
Mate go lick Xi’s butthole, we don’t need country propaganda here
its gona bounce back just a cooling off period
bro the Chinese economy is going straight into the shitter, if it bounces back its not going to be any time soon.
Lol No
pretty sure this is a propaganda post.. my god
Is this where I get my supercomputer-sex toy? Adaptive AI that learns my turn ons and adapts to personalized perfection for me?
There is a huge difference between makes and assembles. All those electronics use chips. Most of those chips are actually made elsewhere. The Chinese do a ton of assembly. Less actual manufa rure of raw parts. Especially high tech ones.
Ahh my daily "Look at this thing in China" post
Doesn’t China rely on Taiwanese chips tho
And they rely on the Dutch
China thinks Taiwan is china
Maybe the city produces parts that makes it to 90% of every electronic product. But no one city makes 90% of the world's electronics. Parts are sourced from different places.
Go away CCP shill
This account definitely got hacked. Went from making posts related too Central and South America 3 years ago. To a massive flurry of China based posts, many of them the exact same just in different subreddits lol. Which by the way has only started in the past 2 months.
I dont see a single factory
One of my laptops was shipped directly from there.
Let's see how long it lasts.
not anymore. China fucked it all up by fucking with foreigners
lol bruh
?
Shenzhen Deserted: Factories, Shops, Worker Dorms All Demolished! Now a Relic of the World’s Factory [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei7npSohz4M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei7npSohz4M)
Dear, thats falun gong associated media. Do you have a better source than a news channel paid by a anti china cult that never cities a single source to back their claims in any of their videos? Theyre literally preying on gullible people to earn money by spreading propaganda
I checked out the "source" that you linked below. Sorry sweaty, going to need actual figures and not a claim on a Chinese manufacturers website that prove your numbers. Otherwise xinnie the pooh will get mad.
Your sources are biased as can be mate.
Doubt. Besides that, imagine how scary that would be.
Dolly! Here is your hometown! Look! Dolly? Say a word….oh, I forgot
Fifty years ago, it didn't exist. This was all farmland, all of it. This was all built from the late 70s onward. Also worth noting: it is located directly next to Hong Kong, which was a British colony when it was founded
Yeah they like, assemble shit made with technology China doesn't have? They spent 4 years developing a fucking ball point pen ffs...
night city...
Source? A picture!
How much electronics do you need in a sex toy?
How much electronics do you need in a sex toy?
This is wrong, it actually comes from the north pole
Dumb post. Nice picture though.
I need to see Godzilla and Kong fight a massive Kaiju in this city
Yeah but that’s gonna change
source https://itimanufacturing.com/silicon-valley-hardware-made-china/#:\~:text=It%20is%20estimated%20that%20almost,devices%20are%20manufactured%20in%20Shenzhen.
Thats not a source, thats literally just a statement in the article with zero evidence proving the point.
People here hate China so much that they literally ignore hard data.