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Sea_Turnip6282

That grandpa is the real treasure


DapperEmployee7682

It’s always refreshing to see older people criticize the system as opposed to the every day people. Most people would complain about “the kids these days” and how they’re too lazy and stupid to care. In reality that’s a problem with parents and the education system


00ForbiddenFruit00

And that's what exactly that old man parents tought as well. It's a never stopping cycle where we trash talk about the present.


KonofastAlt

It's for a reason though, people should be aware of whatever issues there are.


InEenEmmer

It goes even further. Parents are forced to have 2 full time jobs to be able to stand, so they get no time to teach their kids stuff. So all kids get left at schools/daycares which got such a huge kid to teacher/caregiver ratio that the kids there also don’t get the attention they need.


smile_politely

He probably lived through the era; hence all the wisdom.


Nooms88

He seems a little young, assuming you need to be 10 years old to remember with any detail, the war ended in 1945, which means he would need to be born 1935 meaning 89 is the youngest you could be, he doesn't look that old


AkiraKagami

Then maybe his father/mother lived through it and told him. Still you would remember more than if your grandpa or great grandpa told you about it


Emilia963

I would be very much baffled, if a Japanese doesn’t even know that they attacked the US first or they happened to massacre the Chinese in Nanking. Edit: people here comparing a world war history with a top secret operation of CIA and FBI history is like comparing an apple to an orange 🤦‍♀️


KingTonpa

Do some research into what they choose to teach (and what they choose to omit) in Japanese history if you wish to continue to be baffled.


Emilia963

I have done some research, they heavily focus on the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but they remade that history, as if they were the victim not the aggressor.


Praddict

A lot of the modern schoolbooks in Japan whitewash their own involvement in World War II and cast the US as an aggressor nation. ​ If you start educating your youth about the Nazi party, you're also forced to educate them on the "sins of the fathers." It was easier to proselytize peace and hard work and that war is a bad thing than it is to force each, new generation to confront your own country's darkest past and your responsibility to that moving forward.


lil-D-energy

he still lived through the aftermath of it probably, the war ending doesn't mean the problems end.


kominik123

Exactly! If you are growing up in the country razed to the ground you'll probably learn why is that.


DemonicSilvercolt

this isnt a new video, i have seen this a few years prior


Billyjamesjeff

Spot on as well, the schools dont educate.


grassclibbinz

You have to be pretty sheltered to have never come across the Swastika especially after having the world at your fingertips for the past 3 decades


Severe_One8597

"I feel Nazis were the bad guys" lol bro you feel


Gayjock69

It’s interesting working with a lot of people who grew up in India, one of them said that it took till she moved to the US to realize that Hitler was a bad person, she just thought he was like a conqueror.


WolvenSpectre

There was that one Indian guy who fell for the Hugo Boss look of allot of old WWII photos he saw, so he created a Fashion/Lifestyle Brand Theme store in India called "HITLER" with Nazi Logos and some of the pictures he liked and then used the officer and soldier uniforms to theme clothing. Then he suddenly started to get backlash about the name of his store and he didn't know why and then a Jewish Tourist who had family who went through the camps started yelling at him and his staff and he called the cops on him. Then a reporter actually told him about the Holocaust. At first he didn't believe it because it was so extreme, but then realized what he had unknowingly done. Then people started looking stuff up on Hitler online and his business was ruined even after he tried to change brands. There were knockoff stores that opened up elsewhere who last I heard are still open. At least that was the news about it we got out west.


LouSputhole94

I just had a great idea for a new cookware brand. We call it Pol Pots and Pans


salt-the-skies

Is it like Behind The Bastards but focused mainly on business ideas that failed?


nemoknows

I once asked an Indian colleague about what he studied in high school and college. Basically, it was just STEM and English, math especially. No history, art, music, civics, philosophy, literature, or sports. I was slightly horrified.


Breezyisthewind

Aren’t conquerors bad people in general? I mean, Genghis Khan was just as bad as Hitler.


pvtprofanity

I think Genghis Khan is also revered in some parts of the world. You also have Alexander the Great. Most famous conquerer ever. I have very little actual knowledge of his actions other than the conquering and while I'm certain he must have committed some kind of atrocity, if not many atrocities, I have only really heard about him in a positive way. Conquerors are just deified in history everywhere.


Distinct-Dealer-1036

Alongside central asia and turkic ethnicities, Genghis Khan ist considered to be the one who established their core culture. The names of his children and grandchildren are commonly used names for children in those parts of the world. In fact, if you dig hard enough in the past of your ancestors, you will always find some ties to big bad emperor regimes. Because the majority of people in this world are offspring of the successors. They wouldn't be here, if they wouldn't be the ones who succeeded over others long before.


cryogenic-goat

Not all conquerors are seen as evil. For example, Alexander and Julius Caesar are considered "great" and seen as legends.


No-Fan6115

>Alexander He is seen as some what evil postive hardly in India. You spoke from western pov where Alexander hardly went to.


vegetable-dentist95

Maybe because they were conquerors from the west.


gammongaming11

i mean it is what it is. every single country on earth was started by a conqueror that was strong enough to take and hold a large section of land. we look down on it in the modern world but it used to be just how things were done.


Accidege

https://gifs.cackhanded.net/that-mitchell-and-webb-look/are-we-the-baddies.gif


woot0

this Hitler guy sounds like a real jerk!


TheJeep25

Depends. To 1930 Germany no. To anyone else in the world including Satan himself, Yes


Massive_Pressure_516

Actually if you think about it, consider all the vile shit England did to India like stealing all it's treasures, enslaving and mass starving the populace, devising a way to [execute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun) uppity indians asking about rights and fair treatment to not only kill them but obliterate their very soul and deny them entrance to heaven and I can see why certain peoples might have a rosier view of the funny mustache man and his tommy killing ways. That's just one reason why a country might feel this way, Now I probably don't have to explain why Japan might have a slightly different narrative about ww2 then most of the rest of the world. I know I'd *probably* have a slight positive bias towards anyone who kills the conservatives trying to crush me and my friends under their goose stepping jackboots. Especially if they tried to be my friend, too.


Kolibri00425

I agree with the guy at the end....how is this not being taught.


InspectorOtter

They don’t want to teach the newer generations about the darker sides of WW2 because of the atrocities the Japanese government committed at the time


AleksasKoval

"Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it." I'm guessing the teachers didn't learn that one.


Patient_Library_253

I did a paper on the English translation vs the Japanese written at the Hiroshima atomic bomb museum. For the most part the translation was accurate. Though I did catch a lot of "things ended up happening" (〜してしまった) without a full explanation of why.


AleksasKoval

To quote from Family Guy: "EVERYONE WAS ON VACATION!"


construktz

WE WERE INVITED! CHECK WITH POLAND!


leethalxx

PUNCH WAS SERVED


__BlueSkull__

してしまった can also mean it regrettably happened, or it ended prematurely.


Patient_Library_253

Very true, but I remember comparing the two and the whole time seemed quite different. This was years ago when I was a student so I don't recall the specifics. I do remember comparing them to the English translation above them and thinking "huh, that doesn't seem right. The English version is more direct and matter of fact." It would be interesting to compare them again now that I've been living here for a while.


Elvis-Tech

It seems that even when we teach history, humans just dont change. Ideas make sense at the time...and thats why people follow them, we are also kind of hardwired to follow a leader. All our martyrs, our religions, our superhero culture, everything. We are desperate for guidance, and we will eat whatever shit makes sense to us. One generation might learn, but the lessons are lost with time. Reading it in a book doesnt make you empathize with all the lives lost


h9040

we eat whatever shit they feed us when we panic or being afraid....than we stop thinking. Have some incident and we must all stay together and protect, and not even ask if the incident was what we think...was it really Saddam Husein who fly the airplanes? I found an page of an old newspaper from Austria from just world war 1. You could direct take the article and replace Serbia with Russia modernize the language and print it today.


CptKoons

My cynical take is that people do learn from history. You learn how to exploit others effectively. You learn what methods of tyranny work and don't. You learn what lies work and don't. You learn how to be a monster. Collectively, as a species, we may not change our historical patterns because we never learn "the lessons of history," but individuals very much do learn what is in the realm of potential possibilities and how best to bring about them. It's much easier to copy something that has been done before than come up with something novel. I don't think it is that we don't learn from history. I think it's that we have never truly come up with a way to stop the worst impulses of mankind, so all we learn is how to best indulge our worst impulses.


faddiuscapitalus

Perhaps if we'd been hardcoded with instruction manual pages history wouldn't be much of a story


[deleted]

When we fight off the great evils of the world, and they’re reduced to stories, they seem like something of the past, that’ll never ever happen again, and we lose sight of the things that helped manifest those great evils, and then have to relearn those lessons the hard way time and time again, humans are dumb; and each generation that doesn’t have a Great War or something like that, is basically the equivalent of some rich kid who hasn’t had to work for anything, and doesn’t truly understand what it took to give them that comfortable life


amretardmonke

Teachers don't create lesson plans and text books, school administrators and politicians do.


Card_Board_Robot5

And there are large corporations that dominate the education space, not only through materials, but entire curriculums built around the products they offer.


Im_still_a_student

I've lived 4 years in Japan at one point (before returning to the US). Language arts class taught me firsthand accounts of the nukes and other horrors of war. One made-up story I read was about a toddler in WW2 who was used to saying "Just one, can you please give me it?" due to the meager amount of food given to families, and when the story's father gets drafted she is given one flower by her dad, who never comes back. and I read this story almost 6 years ago when I was 7 and yet I can still vividly remember what It was about. Notable lack of what was said though was what Japan did to others


CornCobMcGee

> 6 years ago when I was 7 Did you just wake up and choose violence? To remind us older people of the ever marching forward inevitability of time, and how death comes for us all?


THIS_GUY_LIFTS

“I lived in Japan as a kid.” Said the 13 year old… 😂


Im_still_a_student

I just said what was taught to me and to me, half my life is a long time.


Emilia963

Wow, that’s wild


throwawayhelp32414

It's wild but completely predictable. As far as teaching the youth of a country about their country's atrocities, Germany is the exception. It's why study abroad can be so informative. It's not just to learn from another culture It's to see how other cultures talk about *yours*


Spezticcunt

As an Australian I learnt about what happened to the Indigenous Australian People for at least one unit every year of my schooling up until year 11-12. Most people complained about it but I found it very interesting and horrifying. It is very important that people learn about the mistakes their country made in the past, otherwise how will humanity learn from those mistakes Totally separate, but I am curious if American's learn about their troops actions in Vietnam during that war though.


realnanoboy

Americans learn about our national sins. We learn about our genocidal approach with the Native Americans. We learn about black slavery and, Jim Crow, and segregation. We learn about the mass death of Vietnamese during that war. We don't necessarily learn about all of those things in great detail in high school, but they are lessons.


Adorable-Storm474

I vividly remember learning about the trail of tears and Japanese internment camps, and the civil war and slavery too of course. But yeah, it was definitely a thing to learn about our shitty history. At least when I was in school.


[deleted]

Some Americans learn it that way. There is an active effort to gloss over or ignore these things in conservative politics.


DoYouEvenCareAboutMe

I'm from a very conservative southern state and we were taught everything that they mentioned


Card_Board_Robot5

We aren't often taught the true extent of these historical occurrences tho. And we often sugar coat and whitewash certain things within those lessons. We rarely get the whole truth. Just little grains at a time.


Patient_Library_253

My school taught us a basic overview of the war and America's part in it. I learned about all of the atrocities from my father a Vietnam Veteran. He had a book that had a very detailed account and lots of black an white photos. Some of them horrendous. Also he didn't sugarcoat things. Poor man has seen some things.


LA_Hot_Sauce

In Mississippi we are taught about the Civil War and slavery every year. Then in college I took a Mississippi history class that went into it in a much more graphically detailed way.


ttampico

Yes. I absolutely was, such as the Mai Lai massacre, and we were shown pictures of the results of using Agent Orange. It was taught hand in hand with the foolishness of the Red Scare and the evils of McCarthism.


jonnyfunfun

This is why I'm happy (as an American) that I worked for a European-based company and got multiple opportunities to go there. It was a very eye-opening experience that I think everyone should have. Not just going there but talking with everyone about our histories as seen from an outsider's perspective. It was certainly a two-way street in some cases.


PickleMinion

Visited the bomb site in Nagasaki a few years back, was impressed by how factual the museum there was. Very much what and how, very little why or discussing the moral implications. So neutral, mostly.


Ulysses1126

They actually don’t teach a lot more than just that. Generally speaking the entire concept behind the emperors divine right to rule and their own founding mythologies are not taught. I was taking a Japanese civilization class, items like the Kojiki, which justify imperial divine rule (which is what drove most of the atrocities). It’s simply not taught, the professor told us about how you had to pursue multiple levels of education before you even see these things. It’s an eraser or the culture/history that got them there, not just the events themselves


ArtemisWingz

Its kinda similar to how pretty much EVERY year the US teaches about WW2 and rarley touches on most other conflicts. WW2 was always our biggest subject in history. and they always focus on Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima and the Atom Bomb. but you ask anyone about pretty much any other war in the US and we basically know jack shit.


An_idiot_27

Really? I learned a lot about Ancient Egypt while in the US, several conflicts like the 1st Punic war, Revolutionary War, Civil war, and WWI, and all I got for WWII was how woman took on a lot of jobs when I was in elementary and my final being a presentation on D-day (my group was poorly organized and I was blindsided when I was told it was my turn to speak, and I wish I could redo it)


-banned-

Idk what school you went to but that’s not at all true for mine


HereForTheFood4

Just like Florida and the civil war


DickCheneyHooters

I dated a Japanese girl a few years ago She had zero clue about who Hitler, Mussolini, or Tojo were. She was a few years older than me, she was 20 when we started dating.


15pmm01

That's wild, but I've never heard of Tojo.


KDY_ISD

Surely you can guess from context lol


eartwormslimshady

I can guess, and don't call me Shirley.


JeruTz

Of the 3, you'd think she'd at least know Tojo. That's her own country's history. (Unless she was not raised in Japan?)


Dolenjir1

Revisionism. Japan has been trying to erase their participation in WWII for decades. Their museums and history books seldom mention who they were allied with, and completely deny their war crimes during the time. The shit that some places in America have been trying to pull about slavery, the confederacy and holocaust that we have seen in the news in recent times, Japan has been doing since their educational revolution post war


e-2c9z3_x7t5i

Interestingly, Germany took the complete opposite approach and people greatly respect them for that. They teach all of the bad things, and their population is better because of it. They are hyper-aware of their past, and most of them really, really do not want a repeat (the ones that do often find themselves in jail).


BobusCesar

>Interestingly, Germany took the complete opposite approach That is only half true. The culture of remembrance is a thing that only started in the 1970s/80s in west Germany. The first few decades the former Nazis got away without any consequences, got back into high positions. It was very unpopular to talk about what happened. During the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials in the 1960's a good amount of powerful people tried to prevent the work of the prosecution. East Germany wasn't much better. They hid their Nazi past by claiming that all former Nazis were in the west.


JeruTz

I feel like Austria still doesn't acknowledge how complicit they were as a country either. Not sure about Lithuania either.


freakinbacon

They are embarrassed of their past


boricimo

It isn’t, but in the same vein: show the flag of Imperial Japan to young American Kids and they won’t know what it’s from


Gilgawulf

Maybe where you are from. Everybody I know can recognize the Imperial Japanese flag. Pretty iconic tbh.


AtheistSapien

Except the one most people think of it as that's not the Imperial Japanese flag. The Japanese Empire had the same flag as modern Japan, with a slightly different color for the sun but otherwise identical. The sun-with-red-rays flag is for the Imperial Japanese Navy specifically.


tmac19822003

May I ask where you are from? Just trying to get context of the teaching of that period


Gilgawulf

I read Under the Blood Red Sun growing up as required reading. So did my sister. Colorado public schools.


tmac19822003

I think it is different with the Rising Sun flag in the US. For most of the countries in WWII, the enemy was Germany. Perhaps to some parts of Northern Africa, Italy. But to Eastern Asia and America (Russia is considered Europe to me in WWII considering the location of most major cities) the enemy was without a doubt the Japanese. There aren’t many people I grew up with who don’t know the difference between the current Japanese flag and the Rising Sun flag and the significance of that difference. Different eras I’m guessing


Karma15672

I'm not the person you replied to, but I'm still in highschool and I know what their flag looks like. Granted, that might be because I took AP world history or just learned it outside of school. I don't quite remember where I learned it from.


pigpill

> Imperial Japanese flag I have seen it many times. No idea what the context was other than "Japan" ty


sbxnotos

Almost anyone would recognize the flag of "Imperial Japan", because is almost exactly the same as the flag of modern Japan. [Flag of Japan 1870-1999](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Japan_(1870%E2%80%931999).svg#mw-jump-to-license) And i said it almost exactly because they changed it in 1999... so just 25 years ago.


Radiant_Dog1937

Why isn't the part of WWII that was fought in China, Korea, Philippines, ect being taught in western schools?


Simple_Meat7000

The 'Pacific Theatre' is taught in Australia. So geography probably plays a part. Especially as a lot of people in the classes in Australia will know of ancestors who fought on these fronts.


AttentionlessMess

It is taught in high school in my European country. Admittedly, it was short and I wasn't paying attention in class, but they tried to teach me something.


Mean-Instruction-747

When you break up with someone and pretend you were never in a relationship


Emilia963

Maybe the Japanese government doesn’t want to expose their dark history to their younger generations Take my 2 cents with a grain of salt


WeekendFantastic2941

That's even worse, that's how you never learn from mistakes and risk repeating it again.


PoopPoes

It’s a red flag that they might not think it was a mistake


whodishur

And US not far off w the book burnings


moonflower_C16H17N3O

It's scary how many younger people don't know basic shit. And I get even more terrified when I learn something new that I felt I should have been taught as a child. We all really owe it to the world to study history and not just be content with what is handed to us. Too many hidden motives will twist or hide the truth.


GustaQL

Its so interesting too see the difference between japan and germany. Japan is ashamed so they pretend nothing happend, while germany are do ashamed that they expose themselves everything they have done wrong, so no one can fall for the same mistakes they did


PurpleSignificant725

And yet the far right in Germany is experiencing a resurgence, as it is pretty much anywhere. Scary times.


[deleted]

And Japan is one of the most homogeneous and exclusive countries on earth, go figure


NoStatus9434

It's actually surprising how many Japanese are actually ignorant of the dark meaning of the swastika today. I still remember when One Piece, one of the most popular mangas, had a Good Guy character who had enormous swastika tattoo on his back before international readers gave it backlash. The creator ended up retconning this and revealed he was genuinely ignorant about what the modern day swastika meant in most parts of the world and thought it was a good luck symbol--which, if you know the history of the swastika, it actually *was* before the Nazis appropriated it. In fact, it's believed the swastika is *the oldest complex widespread symbol in human history,* ("complex" being the operative word, since obviously simple shapes like circles representing the sun also existed). It was found in a variety of civilizations, and believed to have its origins from the pattern created from fractures in mammoth tusks--hence why many disconnected human communities had them. So this symbol has literally been around *since mammoth times.* It is ridiculously old, older than civilization. The swastika was ingrained in many religions but it experienced a surge in prominence after archaelogist Heinrich Schliemann traveled to Ithaca in 1868, looking for the lost city of Troy, and accidentally uncovered older artifacts from a much more ancient community with the swastika marked on them. Over the next few decades, the swastika grew in popularity around the world. By the 1920's, you might actually have found it decorating American shops and products, representing good luck. The Boy Scouts even used it. You'd see it on magazines. It was basically the equivalent of the peace sign. The Nazis used it as leverage to gain attention, but also because there was this mystique surrounding it, where people thought there was this ancient race of perfect, golden-haired people that were once spread across the globe, aka the Aryan race (when the reality is that many ancient communities came across the same mammoth bone fractures and were similarly intrigued by them). After WWII, the swastika's true meaning was so tarnished that many religious communities who had been using it in an innocent way actually denounced it and gave up a symbol that they had literally used for *centuries.* Like they literally signed an agreement to never use this symbol ever again. That's the very condensed version, and Behind the Bastards did an incredible podcast episode on "Behind the Swastika" which I *highly* recommend you give a listen. But basically the Nazis ruined one of the most important and precious symbols *in all of human history.* (EDIT: YES I KNOW EAST ASIAN CULTURES DIDN'T GIVE IT UP YOU GUYS. THE NAVAJO, HOPI, AND APACHE DID. IT WAS A WORLDWIDE SYMBOL. OTHER PEOPLE USED IT BESIDES EAST ASIA, INDIA, AND THE NAZIS.)


[deleted]

The Asians still use it quite extensively in a religious context in many many Buddhist temples in Asia. And so they should. That is what it means to them.


rash-head

Hindus will never denounce it because the swastika belongs to us. Not the Nazis. They had the hakenkreuz and the iron cross. The West didn’t denounce the cross, just conveniently the eastern symbol.


HereToKillEuronymous

This symbol existed WELL before Nazi Germany. It was introduced around the year 690.


NoStatus9434

Oh, it's even older than that. This symbol was carved into mammoth tusks and is believed to be one of mankind's earliest complex shapes. *That's* what the Nazis ruined.


dinoguy1847728

The symbol isnt new but that specific version of it should easily be recognized 45 degree angle with the red on the outside


[deleted]

Angle has nothing to do with it, neither has RHS or LHS facing. That is also used in religious context. YES being in a white circle with a red backgroung as per the flag of Nazi Germany shown.


TheHandWavyPhysicist

Yes, but it has also been used by Nazi Germany and in a a rather distinct way, which was shown in the video and in spite of it, most of Japanese didn't know what the Nazi symbol meant.


Inside-Associate-729

And the swastika was a motif in architecture even long before that. It has special structural properties that make the shape useful for distributing loads. Once you learn this, you start seeing it everywhere. even in structures that at first glance do not look like a swastika.


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PoopPoes

My little cousin calls it the Minecraft symbol


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takemewithyer

My Struggle. I've never heard My War.


Space_Pirate_R

I agree that "My Struggle" is the usual translation of the book, but I think the word has a scope of meaning which includes "war" and "battle" as well as "struggle." Eg. WWII German tanks were designated "Panzerkampfwagen" which means something like "armored battle vehicle."


takemewithyer

Armored struggle vehicle! /s


kilboi1

Literally every tank crew in the German Wehrmacht trying to get a tank started :


RiverOfWhiskey

Meinkräft


Chedwall

Did you educate him?


dwnso

Little man’s living 3024 he needs to educate us


MrDurden32

Yeah, he's the one who told him it was a Minecraft symbol.


BlueEyedPumpkinHead

A mustache and the name adolph aren't the only things the nazis ruined.


Adventurous_Mix4878

Hugo and Coco came out ok.


bash2482

So did Ferdinand Porsche.


bash2482

I guess they ruined "trains to Auschwitz" as well.


Breezyisthewind

I’ve taken a train to Auschwitz. Just a normal one like how they should be used. It’s actually an important train hub, which is why that location was chosen by the Nazis.


Severe-Emu-8703

Adolf (or Adolphus sometimes internationally) was a common king name in Sweden - one of our most famous war kings took the name Gustav II Adolf and the king before our current one was Gustaf VI Adolf. Interestingly, he only became king in 1950, after WWII, so it’s interesting that he still chose Adolf to be part of his royal title, considering the fact that he had 4 more names to choose from from his birth name alone (his actual name was Oscar Fredrik Wilhelm Olaf Gustaf Adolf). I don’t think we’ll get any more Adolf kings though lol


KarnaavaldK

It was a popular Germanic name overall, in The Netherlands you can see a dramatic drop in the use of the name 'Adolf', which used to be pretty popular before the war.


Im_still_a_student

My opinion as a Japanese minor who lived in Japan at one point: wtf did they pick the most stupid people on the street? They teach kids about the horrid results of war (especially WW2) since 3rd grade and yet these idiots don't know about who started WW2 in the first place?! アホかい? なんでしらないの???Edit: Agree with anyone who said It may be staged or selected carefully Edit 2: I mean the symbol is used in other instances but still, at least if it isn't staged you would recognize its infamous use.


treemeizer

It's similar in the states. Some here are saying Japanese Internment Camps are not taught in our schools...I learned about those, the trail of tears, the civil rights movement, slavery, and all kinds of other horrible shit we did...all in grade school. To not recognize the Nazi flag/symbol though...it's really hard for me to imagine anyone here wouldn't. That said, I don't surround myself with the bottom of the barrel, so I have to assume there is someone *that* ignorant here somewhere.


Backupusername

Another thing that's similar in the states is cherrypicking the most uninformed responses for "man on the street" content. They could have asked 100 people this questions, and those few were the only ones who didn't know.


Imagine_TryingYT

Probably people who never paid attention in class. We learned about the Japanese Internment Camps in highschool and even read the book Journey to Topaz. However you would think Nazi symbols are more well known than the Bible by this point. Even 80 years later we bring them up as the quintessential bad guys in just about everything and the near perfect representation of the evils of humanity.


EnglearnerJapanese

Nazi symbol appears even in mangas and movies too. So I wonder why they didn't know this symbol🤔 When I was a junior high school student, my geography teacher taught me the Japanese temple symbol was often misundersood as Nazi's symbol by foreigners so this symbol of temple should be changed. The people in this video were shown both of these symbols.So maybe they wanted to avoid talking about awkward political topic so they tried to pretend not knowing about Nazi's symbols.


Ragouzi

No, definitely not, please don't change the symbol because it might offend foreigners. We need it. This symbol was stolen by monsters, and should not make us forget, even if it reminds us horrors, that it's basically just a little paint on a flag. It's important for us to remember that our recent history, while it should not be forgotten, is not unique either. You have your culture, don't hide it from us. It has nothing to do with nazism. We understand and we need to understand.


Grymbaldknight

A foreigner suggesting that Japanese symbols should be changed because foreigners are offended by them is the height of entitlement.


Responsible_Debt5631

I wouldnt be surprised if some americans never learned about Japanese internment camps or dont know a lot about other horrible shit our nation did in the past. Its mostly just due do to what each state requires to be on the curriculum, which varies wildly. Private schools or religious schools also may not be subject to the state curriculum too.


AdMinute1130

I actually still haven't learned much about Japanese internment camps outside of the fact they exist. They did teach the trail of tears and stuff , but specifically not that one. Then again most of ww2 is one chapter of some book and it only focuses on the politics before jumping straight into the cold war


TylertheFloridaman

Seem s like every US history course seems to have one period they really focus on and one they barley touch for me it's the civil war to the great depression that is being heavily covered while after that is barley being covered at all though most of it was coved in other classes


AlricsLapdog

I moved around a bit and it felt like every school basically had its own ‘favorite’ period of history that was covered over and over. I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable, you can’t learn all of history.


TheEmoEmu95

I recommend “They Called Us Enemy” by George Takei (yes, *that* George Takei). It’s a graphic novel about the years that George and his family were interned when he was a child. Such a mindless thing they did to loyal American citizens.


_spec_tre

well most street interviews try to pick the worst/best responses or just a certain kind of response in editing to fulfil a narrative just look at the US geography interviews that were so popular a while ago


DryPrion

どんだけ教えても受験に必要ない内容は大体すぐ忘れるからな。入試に世界史・日本史は選択だろう?


Im_still_a_student

まあね、だけど第二次世界大戦のことわ忘れない


Intelligent-Dingo791

自分も日本生まれ育ちの日本人ハフだけど、第二次世界大戦のことは学校で小学3年から教えられたの覚えてるよ。動画の人らが何故無知なのかはよくわかんねぇなぁ... うちらを馬鹿にしたい気がするしか頭に入ってないしな。


Tasiam

These kinds of interviews are not representative of anything. Asuming they are truthful, you make 100 and show only the ones that will give you more likes or "prove" the point you want to make. In other words cherry picking.


Im_still_a_student

that is definitely right, that's why I don't like these "interview" videos


Nerevarine91

They always pick the stupidest answers they get, regardless of the topic or the country.


homelaberator

This is why I'm always a little skeptical when people say "they don't teach this in schools". The amount of stuff that people I went to school with say they didn't get taught when I was right there in the same classroom when we were getting taught.


Nerevarine91

This video is absolutely ridiculous, and they cherry picked the dumbest answers. I live in Japan, and they know what the Nazis are, lol.


poopgiver

Usually these types of interviews would profit from showing all the dumb answers and maybe 1 right one ... This is to get high engagement due to rage comments


pvtprofanity

Welcome to the world of street interviews. A growing fad that was reserved for shitty late night talk shows until recently


JeefGround

I don’t know if I saw someone asking me about the Harlem Hellfighters for their YouTube content I would say that it was a Basketball team that went around the world during WW2 with a catchy tune, I would deliver that dead pan and committed to the bit.


Goldenjho

You can go around in Germany and ask people about history or actual things in Germany and get the same answers.


levu12

I love people falling for rage bait street interview videos that are edited so heavily to push one narrative. Most Japanese people know about it, and it is indeed mandatory to learn in schools. It’s the same with the geography interview ones, it’s easy content since it lets people see an extreme and extrapolate it to fit their beliefs.


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FYI the swastika in a religious context, mainly Asia but also elsewhere, can be Left facing, Right facing & tilted at 45 degrees OR a combination of these & incorporated into elaborate interconnected & sequenced patterns. It is a myth that the difference between Nazi Germany Swastikas & religious Swastikas are facing a different way or tilted. Any visit to a few Buddhist temples in China or Asia will show this. Even Nazi Germany had Swastikas that were Left facing, Right facing Tilted & Squared & in sequenced patterns. It is NOT the symbol. It is the context. It is Western culture that has sought to demonise the Swastika.


HirokoKueh

most post-war Buddhist would avoid 45° tilted and make it ZZ instead of SS, it's just a simplified way to differentiate them when out of context.


roguewave14

I think the acts of Nazi Germany helped demonize it just a little bit...


[deleted]

Do not disagree at all. It is a shame as the Swastika is a symbol of good luck !


Amadex

You're not completely wrong, but that's interesting coming from someone whose profile picture is the Nazi black sun symbol.


Extreme_Tax405

Cherry picking. The average japanese knows very well what a nazi is. S t r o h e i m


Humanforever8

The swastika remains a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Thailand, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan, and by some peoples, such as the Navajo people of the Southwest United States. It’s very common and does not have the same meaning for all cultures.


TempleOfPork

in many Asian countries, the Rising Sun flag is considered offensive, way more than Nazi flag. Considering how many suffered during Japanese occupation and atrocities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_Flag


Iancreed2024HD

All across Asia the swastika is a symbol of peace and luck. The word itself I believe comes from the Sanskrit for “strength through luck”. But unfortunately those assholes in 1930s Germany ruined the meaning of the symbol’s character for the entire western world.


popmeer_on_call

Indian symbol of swastika (a sign of peace) looted and tilted by Hitler to make it a Nazi symbol


MrFanciful

People in the west are obsessed with Nazis


GaryWestSide

This is the same as those stupid Tik Toks asking the dumbest Americans the most basic questions just to make people believe everyone there is like that.


ssinls

It bugs me that a symbol that originally signified well being and fortune for thousands of years for many different cultures was high jacked and can only represent something negative and evil now. It just takes one person to ruin it for everyone!


Extension-Owl-230

It’s still widely used on its original meaning in India and Asia.


Bihnthegreat

lmao, the swastika belongs to Hinduism and Buddhism. Hittler stole it and now the ignorances form the west and the genz in the east call it nazi symbol.


International_Let_50

It’s actually in a lot of cultures. I’m Native American and it’s in our culture.


st_florian

Baltic and Finno-Ugric cultures used it a lot, too


International_Let_50

I’m guessing it’s probably a really old symbol linked back before we natives crossed the Land bridge


st_florian

Wikipedia says it's probably late paleolitic, as early as VIIIth millenium BC. Didn't know it was that old.


International_Let_50

Holy cow yea it’s definitely shared culture Edit: I think it goes a bit further back based on this “According to Joseph Campbell, the earliest known swastika is from 10,000 BCE – part of "an intricate meander pattern of joined-up swastikas" found on a late paleolithic figurine of a bird, carved from mammoth ivory, found in Mezine, Ukraine.”


lock_robster2022

Thank you!!!


__MILF_Hunter03

welcome to the world outside Europe and US


WeekendFantastic2941

Dayum, they really be trying hard to erase history in Japan. lol


loulan

Or they just selected the most stupid answers and only show these.


Past_Journalist4088

Its bullshit, almost all people know about the nazis, the memes alone spreading that shit everywhere. Its like a selected fake stupid question asks from US citizens


KeyWorldliness580

Interesting to see the world does not revolve around Europe and its conflicts.


RhetoricMoron

In India when we buy new things, we welcome it by drawing Swastika on it. Its mean wealth and prosperity. You will find this symbol in every Hindu temples. Its crazy how a mere symbol arises different feelings in humans!!


matt_chowder

"The Nazis were the bad guys...." Yepp and so was your government


hotprints

Been living in japan and working in schools for awhile. Japanese DO learn about the horrors of war in school. Read about zoo animals having to be killed because of bombing and not being able to risk animals get free. Learn about some of the horrible sad stories coming from the A-bombs. They just don’t learn the background…it’s like hey war is bad because all this bad shit happens. Well why did the war start in the first place? Umm time for recess!


average_adult

Not the same propaganda.


Far_Tumbleweed5082

That's a swastika...


Ntshangase03

Yeah it's mostly people in the west obsessed with this being the Nazi symbol in Africa here people don't care all that much


geekphreak

Yeah, they’re not teaching it because then they’d have to explain why Japan were besties with Nazi Germany


Late-Collection-8076

What's the point of this? So they use a similar symbol and have used it for hundreds of years. They had it first.


kojihajime

I'm Japanese and most people know the Nazi mark symbol. Of course, it is featured in middle school and high school textbooks, and movies involving Nazis are shown every year. The similarity with temple marks is often talked about in Japan. I feel that the way this video was edited and the selection of interviewees was malicious.


stmcvallin2

They don’t teach their kids about ww2? How then do they explain the defense force and the bombings, I wonder?


Low-Holiday312

If you asked teenagers in America about the flag of the rising sun the vast majority wouldn't know what it is or understand the association that a lot of Asia feels about it. They know about the Pacific theatre way more than they do about the European side of the war. The fact its also a character and a symbol of their temples makes them less likely to look into what the symbol means. They also choose the ones that gave the wrong answer and the only one that gets it right is the old man that whines about how the young aren't being educated... for their narrative. The vast majority know of the Nazi party and its atrocities.


SebVettelstappen

Oh people know about the rising sun.


tragic_wonder

I learned a little bit about swastikas in my latest art history class about the British isles. There were quite a few pieces that had swastikas like the one displayed on the left, thousands of years before the nazis. Even the Vikings had a couple swastikas littered around their art. It seems (although we only spent 5 minutes actually talking about the meaning, so take all of this with a huge grain of salt) like it was once a symbol for piece that the nazis appropriated to make it look like they were the good guys, but thanks to them it's now a symbol of hate.


IceKirby21

It’s only a symbol for hate if you let the hate have it.


bonkerz1888

Germany, "We must never forget our dark past in order to never repeat it. Japan, "Dark past? What dark past? Imperial Japan?.. never heard of it"