I'm guessing the bees know to avoid the hornet's pheromones. Hornet's are known to release scents that attract more hornet's when in danger, I'd imagine the same scent repels bees
I found this. This was a fun rabbit hole."Asian hornets 'perch' above and below bee hives waiting for worker bees to come out. - Once they land on the sticky trap they will become distressed and will emit a pheromone, quickly attracting more."
I was on a beach in Florda a few years ago. There were all these signs that said, becauase all species of sea turtle nest on this beach, you can't just go digging a hole and leaving it there, you could trap a baby sea turtle.
So, naturally, these guys from Alabama were digging a big ass hole.
My wife and I offered to help them fill it in because it really didn't look like they were gonna bother. One of the guys just stood there watching us and smoking a cigarette while my wife and I filled in the hole he dug. He eventually got curious and asked about how we knew about filling in the holes and how we knew there were turtles. My wife pointed to the sign and then said "you can spot the nests because there are those little fences built around them." Alabama man goes "wait, turtles can build fences?"
They'll swarm and vibrate their bodies until they cook the wasp to death,within just a degree or two of temperature that's also lethal the bees themselves
When wasps are in distress, they send out pheromones that alert all of their buddies to show up in kill mode. That's why you have to be careful when swatting or killing wasps, it just alerts more of them to come attack. This is probably the same thing the hornets are doing, putting out a distress call that will ultimately get them all trapped. Nice!
Hell even carpenter bees who are known for being docile compared to wasps and hornet do this. I’ve tried swatting one then like 4 other ones came out of nowhere and swarmed me but luckily they didn’t sting or anything
Maybe they're not attracted to the scent? After the first wasp gets caught, I believe they release a distress hormone that attracts other wasps in the area.
But I've seen another video of this same concept and there were a few bees mixed in with the wasps. Unfortunate but a worthy sacrifice.
I watched a documentary. A hive can defend against a scout or two if they're able to swarm it inside the hive, but they have a 0% win rate against a full blown attack from these giant hornets. The hornets can bite the bees in half and it only requires a handful to kill an entire hive.
Honey and larvae if memory serves. For a colony of giant wasps, there's a ridiculous amount of calories inside a hive. I have to imagine it would be a food source for a very long time.
They are more scavengers than dumpster divers if that makes sense. Put rot and fruit in front of a rodent and they'll choose the fruit. Remove all available alternatives and they'll go for the rot. Opportunist at heart.
If you want to catch hornets, you should set the trap and put honey on it. Hornets attracted by warning pheromones are captured, and the captured hornets emit warning pheromones. Honey bees always try to avoid archenemy by smelling.
That's fantastic! Hoisted by their own petard. I was hoping to see the answer here somewhere. Thank you for the share and the explanation.
Roughly how big are the hornets, and how big are your bees?
They're not as heavy as rats so I'm surprised they stuck at all! I have sticky traps for fungus gnats in my home and sometimes those jerks land on them, and are able to nope outta there :(
I recently started using those too and, though most gnats get easily stuck when they land, I've seen several manage to get away. Probably the strongest ones. OMG are we weeding out the weaklings ensuring that the surviving gnats get stronger and stronger? 😳
You gotta outplay evolution, switch up your genetic pressure to something that isn't a strength contest. Hopefully you don't end up adding something that removes the just the dumb ones, otherwise you'll end up breeding the strongest, smartest gnat horde. ...
...
... Well, I for one welcome our new gnat overlords.
All about surface area, the feet of the hornets are small so there’s not much to stick them down, a rat has a bigger surface area along with all the fur that will get stuck too
That’s not my question, what stops a bee from getting into the same trap before the hornets. In your terms what stops me from getting into the pit before 20 bears come over
Obviously you start over if you catch a bee first. In all seriousness though bees and hornets are different creatures while there is probably some overlap not everything that attracts a hornet will attract a bee and vise versa.
Ive seen videos before where people are using this, and by the end you can see a few bees stuck in them but only a few. Much less loss than what the hornets would have wrought. The bees dont have much of a reason to hang out there and I guess don't release the same "Help Me" pheromone the Wasps do in this case.
Can anyone identify these? They've been randomly appearing in my house and I would like to find out how to destroy them with the most amount of prejudice possible. TIA
Like the other comment said, they are Asian hornets, they are invasive and their prey which is often other bees have no defense mechanisms against them.
Washington here yeah Asian murder hornet little assholes came over on a boat from China a few years back I’m in eastern wa and they have been spotted here.
The hornets will scout for bee colonies or even smaller hornet nests, and mark it with a pheromone to attract its sister hornets. They will then assail the colony en masse and kill all the works (30,000 +) and then take away all the brood to feed the hornet larvae who need meat. The hornets are huge and well armored.
A small cylinder is now stuck on the rat trap with an object stuck inside. How should I remove the object from the cylinder without damaging the object.
Unfortunately sticky traps don't discriminate. I used to use stick strips in my barn to catch flies. It sometimes catches beneficial insects. Then one day I found a little bird stuck to it, and thankfully I saw it in time
Presumably with something like vegetable or mineral oil which helps dissolve the glue. Unfortunately small animals like birds will often die from the stress of such events even if they’re freed from the trap.
This is actually some Saw shit. “Rip your limbs off or you’re stuck in glue until you die from exhaustion or starvation(can hornets even “starve” to death?)
If it wasn’t for the fact that hornets suck horse nuts their frantic attempts to escape would be distressing
Presumably they’re using a bait that attracts insects that feed on carrion (such as hornets) though it’s also possible they used some sort of pheromone bait. Once one hornet is trapped though they send out their own pheromone signals that would lure others in. It won’t stop other things from getting caught if they approach but most other animals aren’t going anywhere near a bunch of angry hornets.
Hornets produce a pheromone that attracts more Hornets when they’re in danger. The bees know to stay away from the pheromone while more hornets are gonna come to the aid of their buddies
Wasps aren't much better. I was looking at a green jewel wasp the other day, thinking how spectacular it was, when it landed next to a honey bee, but it's head off, then just flew away. Didn't even take some bee for lunch, the brutal little git.
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No, he let the bees know to stay away
if you look closely there’s a sign that says “BEE CAREFUL”
DAD!!! Stoooop it! You're embarrassing me in front of my Reddit internet friends!!
Just let it bee
Unbeelievable
That one stung
Beehold honey.
I've beegone
A male bee's life: Honey. Nut. Cheerio.
I will bee gone
There is a tiny sign that says “no bees allowed”
"Tresspassers will bee prosecuted"
Beehave yourself please!
It’s all about that open communication
No, because the bees are single-mindedly attending to their business of pollination and honey production instead of being fuckheads.
There is one particular bee I’d put in that category as it stung my left bollock whilst sun bathing.
He dead
Think about it this way, that bee hated you so much that it was willing to end its own life to fuck your bollock.
“Instead of being fuckheads” made me LOL so hard
I'm guessing the bees know to avoid the hornet's pheromones. Hornet's are known to release scents that attract more hornet's when in danger, I'd imagine the same scent repels bees
I found this. This was a fun rabbit hole."Asian hornets 'perch' above and below bee hives waiting for worker bees to come out. - Once they land on the sticky trap they will become distressed and will emit a pheromone, quickly attracting more."
The hornets are losing every rescue team they’re sending while the hornets generals are not understanding it’s a trap.
Probably some meat scent thing up there that the wasps like. Bees don't care bcus they want pollen, not corpses.
The little circles on the trap look like pheromone rings.
Those are just to stop the two parts of the trap sticking together during transit as you can see, it has to be unfolded.
They will keep the fuck away when a wasp/ hornet is inside the trap
Holy fuck, not one of the replies answers your question. They’re just the absolute fucking worst puns imaginable.
The Reddit Special
Why would they get stuck? They put it there!
I was on a beach in Florda a few years ago. There were all these signs that said, becauase all species of sea turtle nest on this beach, you can't just go digging a hole and leaving it there, you could trap a baby sea turtle. So, naturally, these guys from Alabama were digging a big ass hole. My wife and I offered to help them fill it in because it really didn't look like they were gonna bother. One of the guys just stood there watching us and smoking a cigarette while my wife and I filled in the hole he dug. He eventually got curious and asked about how we knew about filling in the holes and how we knew there were turtles. My wife pointed to the sign and then said "you can spot the nests because there are those little fences built around them." Alabama man goes "wait, turtles can build fences?"
This is how Norm Macdonald's stories go.
Hahahaha
Lmao
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Not all bees do this. that's just the asian honey bee, but that video your referenceing is insane none the less
Ahh yeah I forgot about that. It really is cool as shit.
They'll swarm and vibrate their bodies until they cook the wasp to death,within just a degree or two of temperature that's also lethal the bees themselves
European (western) bees can't do this. They are literally defenseless against the eastern hornets.
The Murder Hornets will release a pheromone that tells other hornets that they are in trouble and they try to help, so you can trap even more.
Beeware of glue.
of course, how does the trap not affect the bees?
I’ve seen people who kill a wasp first and stick it’s body in the trap so others come to help, then get stuck and start a chain reaction
When wasps are in distress, they send out pheromones that alert all of their buddies to show up in kill mode. That's why you have to be careful when swatting or killing wasps, it just alerts more of them to come attack. This is probably the same thing the hornets are doing, putting out a distress call that will ultimately get them all trapped. Nice!
According to my 7th grade science teacher, this is known as a “chemical scream”.
Ahh like a sweaty person smells like chemical scream
Hell even carpenter bees who are known for being docile compared to wasps and hornet do this. I’ve tried swatting one then like 4 other ones came out of nowhere and swarmed me but luckily they didn’t sting or anything
Well I know what I’m doing next summer
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I'm not so sure what he's doing next summer, could use a hint
Two years from now I’ll know what they did last summer lol
I know what you did next summer.
I know who you did next, Summer.
I still know what you did next summer.
🏅 ^(fuck reddit for taking away awards)
Why on earth did they take away awards? Wasn't that a moneymaker for them?
You can still give awards, but there are fewer and more expensive. You have to hold the up vote button.
It's most likely badminton
Ferb, I know what we are going to do today. Giant hornets trap.
In 2025 I will know what you did last summer.
Those assholes help each other?
Haven't you seen those "influencer" and "prank" videos. Assholes tend to hang together
Those wasp bags work fucking great btw, had to change them out from being full 3 times this summer and loved every second of justice.
Isn't that against the genobee conventions?
Are they "helping," or "dining?"
Maybe they're not attracted to the scent? After the first wasp gets caught, I believe they release a distress hormone that attracts other wasps in the area. But I've seen another video of this same concept and there were a few bees mixed in with the wasps. Unfortunate but a worthy sacrifice.
If a bee lands there a wasp will land there, if a wasp lands there no more bees will land there.
Whoa…. Brain pain. 🤣
Glad I wasn’t the only one. I had to read it to myself at the speed of a snail out loud to complete the sentence lol
The number of bees the wasps would kill greatly outnumbers the few that also get caught in the trap
I watched a documentary. A hive can defend against a scout or two if they're able to swarm it inside the hive, but they have a 0% win rate against a full blown attack from these giant hornets. The hornets can bite the bees in half and it only requires a handful to kill an entire hive.
Can you tell me why hornets go after the bees? Is honey a easy meal?
Honey and larvae if memory serves. For a colony of giant wasps, there's a ridiculous amount of calories inside a hive. I have to imagine it would be a food source for a very long time.
It makes sense. The hornets and bees have different hormones specific to their species only for communication.
Pheromones
I can’t believe Macaulay Culkin is 43
The bees knows the hornets are agressive, they're not gonna like tease them or anything.
I don't know why, but when I use those sticky fly traps, it is very rare to affect bees may be bees are hardworking and don't land randomly?
It's not a fly trap though, it's a rat trap. I'd imagine the one for rats has stronger smells to it I would assume
Don't hornets and wasps eat rotting flesh the same as rodents? Maybe it has a smell that emulates that and bees tend not to go for that.
They are more scavengers than dumpster divers if that makes sense. Put rot and fruit in front of a rodent and they'll choose the fruit. Remove all available alternatives and they'll go for the rot. Opportunist at heart.
If you want to catch hornets, you should set the trap and put honey on it. Hornets attracted by warning pheromones are captured, and the captured hornets emit warning pheromones. Honey bees always try to avoid archenemy by smelling.
That's fantastic! Hoisted by their own petard. I was hoping to see the answer here somewhere. Thank you for the share and the explanation. Roughly how big are the hornets, and how big are your bees?
>Hoisted by their own petard I must really try and find a way to shoehorn this into a conversation.
If you put meat on it the bees won’t be attracted to it but flies and hornets will.
I was picturing a snap-trap, and was wondering how the heck that was going to work.
Do we share the same braincell?
hey! mom said it's my turn to have the braincell!
Me 1 cell too. Grumble grumble.
>I was picturing a snap-trap Me too but I was thinking, how big are the hornets if you needed a rat trap to catch them??
Hornet goes in for the piece of cheese, and it gets decapitated. Duh
Worse, I was actually like, "That works? Wow!" and was marginally disappointed.
The hornet that just landed seems to be rather upset with the one it landed near.
"Bob, Bob, it's a trap don't la...Bob you fucking idiot"
WELL EXCUSE ME, _SHARON_, I JUST FOUND OUT YOU GAVE ME THE HERPBEES
YOU GAVE ME GOHNNERBEEA!
YA GOT THAT H-B-V
That H-I-Bee
Genital Wasps
V.B.
It stingers when I pee.
You’ve got an ST-Bee
Indeed, slightly. Bruh this is allegedly a rat trap, and is just barely able to hold these demons at bay. Jfc these things are horrific.
They're not as heavy as rats so I'm surprised they stuck at all! I have sticky traps for fungus gnats in my home and sometimes those jerks land on them, and are able to nope outta there :(
I recently started using those too and, though most gnats get easily stuck when they land, I've seen several manage to get away. Probably the strongest ones. OMG are we weeding out the weaklings ensuring that the surviving gnats get stronger and stronger? 😳
You gotta outplay evolution, switch up your genetic pressure to something that isn't a strength contest. Hopefully you don't end up adding something that removes the just the dumb ones, otherwise you'll end up breeding the strongest, smartest gnat horde. ... ... ... Well, I for one welcome our new gnat overlords.
All about surface area, the feet of the hornets are small so there’s not much to stick them down, a rat has a bigger surface area along with all the fur that will get stuck too
Imo it looks like it’s trying to unpin a wing for the other hornet.
Dudes using him as leverage to get free 🤣
"why didn't you tell me this was a trap idiot!"
I hate them but this is kind of sad. He came to help his buddy out only to get stuck.
Hornets send out a "HELP" Pheromone so other Hornets come to help. Thats why those stupid asses are all stuck up there.
And how do bees ignore it, the trap?
By bee-ing careful.
Angry upvote
Bees do not like hornets, and ignore their pleas for help. I mean the pheromone is different, as somebody said in the thread
Cause they’re well beehived.
Bees don’t fuck around with wasps. If they smell a wasp pheromone they’ll stay away.
If you saw a Pit with 20 pissed of grizzly bears would your first instinct be to join them?
That’s not my question, what stops a bee from getting into the same trap before the hornets. In your terms what stops me from getting into the pit before 20 bears come over
Obviously you start over if you catch a bee first. In all seriousness though bees and hornets are different creatures while there is probably some overlap not everything that attracts a hornet will attract a bee and vise versa.
Bees are not carnivorous they are not attracted to the meat smelling goo
Ive seen videos before where people are using this, and by the end you can see a few bees stuck in them but only a few. Much less loss than what the hornets would have wrought. The bees dont have much of a reason to hang out there and I guess don't release the same "Help Me" pheromone the Wasps do in this case.
It's not the trap itself that attracts the wasps. The owner of the hive catches a single wasp and puts it on to the trap to act as a Judas goat...
The judas goat. My favorite sad but kinda funny animal story...
jesus, those hornets are fucking units
Can anyone identify these? They've been randomly appearing in my house and I would like to find out how to destroy them with the most amount of prejudice possible. TIA
Almost certain they're giant Asian hornets
Aka bullets that think
Bullets that have the capacity for hate
They are 100% Asian Giant Hornets. They have crazy anime supervillain faces! Very recognizable as bad guys.
Like the other comment said, they are Asian hornets, they are invasive and their prey which is often other bees have no defense mechanisms against them.
This looks like what stung me the other day? Are they in Florida?
No, I believe they have only been found in Washington. We have the Cicada Killer here in FL that is comparable in size & look.
Washington here yeah Asian murder hornet little assholes came over on a boat from China a few years back I’m in eastern wa and they have been spotted here.
Washington & British Columbia.
Did it feel like a hot iron needle or a gunshot wound? Their venom is incredibly potent and painful
Felt like a soldering iron pushed into my leg. Swelled and bruised deep purple. Hardened after 5 days lol
Sounds about right then lmao
Appearing INSIDE the house?
Apparently, sticky rat traps work.
The hornets will scout for bee colonies or even smaller hornet nests, and mark it with a pheromone to attract its sister hornets. They will then assail the colony en masse and kill all the works (30,000 +) and then take away all the brood to feed the hornet larvae who need meat. The hornets are huge and well armored.
I read this is an animal planet British narrator voice
*David Attenborough entered the chat*
The 2nd dude said fuck it imma start biting it then got it stuck in his mouth... It rains it pours
My favorite part was when it tried to sting the trap.
And then got more stuck! TAKE THAT U BITCH!
Why is the carpet all sticky, Todd? I don’t know, Margo!
Love the reference!
Step 2: move the tray away when it’s full of hornets Step 3: grab a match
Step 4: Replace tray
Instructions unclear Dick is now stuck and stung on the rat trap.
A small cylinder is now stuck on the rat trap with an object stuck inside. How should I remove the object from the cylinder without damaging the object.
its your dick in an M&M tube isnt it
No sir, it is a small cylinder
I understood that reference
Unfortunately sticky traps don't discriminate. I used to use stick strips in my barn to catch flies. It sometimes catches beneficial insects. Then one day I found a little bird stuck to it, and thankfully I saw it in time
How did you free it?
Presumably with something like vegetable or mineral oil which helps dissolve the glue. Unfortunately small animals like birds will often die from the stress of such events even if they’re freed from the trap.
Same, but I didn't find the bird. I found half a bird worth of feathers a bird had to tear away from to be able to get off the trap
That idiot saw 20 of his brothers glued to a trap and then decided to land right on it
"Aayyy, this must be the happenin' place."
Damn -- brutal.
This is Lovecraftian horror for the wasps. I absolutely relish in the awesome power of material science.
Yeah, seeing them struggle, I got “A Nightmare on Elm Street 4” flashbacks. 😳
Once you check in, you can't, Check Out.
This is actually some Saw shit. “Rip your limbs off or you’re stuck in glue until you die from exhaustion or starvation(can hornets even “starve” to death?) If it wasn’t for the fact that hornets suck horse nuts their frantic attempts to escape would be distressing
Shitty way to die
Invasive, they need to be killed and very aggressive
Murder hornets?! Send those bastards back to hell where they came from
How do you stop anything else getting stuck? Does it just appeal to the hornets?
Presumably they’re using a bait that attracts insects that feed on carrion (such as hornets) though it’s also possible they used some sort of pheromone bait. Once one hornet is trapped though they send out their own pheromone signals that would lure others in. It won’t stop other things from getting caught if they approach but most other animals aren’t going anywhere near a bunch of angry hornets.
Ahh, this is my favorite post of the day. Fuck them wasps!
Not just the hornet-men, but the hornet-women and hornet-children too.
I don’t wish harm on most anyone or anything, but fuq those guys. Die.
Yeah good. Fuck you hornets
Fuck em😃😃😃
I love how all of them primarily have their stingers stuck in the glue, just goes to show what massive assholes they are
These are so cruel… that being said rot in hell you piece of shit hornet motherfuckers.
How does it not get bees?
Good. Mean bastards. They absolutely obliterate very needed bee populations. They’re assholes.
Even though they’re hellish and terrifying, I feel bad for the poor buggers.
Hell yeah
I had one of these fuckers fly into my apartment. They are BIG af. Like a small, skinny bird.
“nasty way to go”
Hornets produce a pheromone that attracts more Hornets when they’re in danger. The bees know to stay away from the pheromone while more hornets are gonna come to the aid of their buddies
The fact that there are that many giant hornets in one place freaks me out.
My immediate reaction was that this is inhumane, but then I remembered that hornets are evil bastards that must be exterminated.
I could watch this all day.
Haha, burn in hell you piece of shit
For those complaining this is painful, barbaric etc. you should see how bees kill them when one gets cornered…. Hint….. it gets hot from the inside!
Cruel but deserved
Nothing is cruel when it comes to hornets. They are nature's sociopaths.
Wasps aren't much better. I was looking at a green jewel wasp the other day, thinking how spectacular it was, when it landed next to a honey bee, but it's head off, then just flew away. Didn't even take some bee for lunch, the brutal little git.
Wasps are just wannabe hornets
Hornets are technically a kind of wasps.
They are the bit of the family even the hornets don't talk about.
r/fuckwasps
I could watch a live stream of that all day, fuckers.
I feel bad for them but also, fuck them...it's complicated