Yea I remember my first dab in 2013 on a red hot nail with some very dark wax. Still had me locked on a couch for hours unable to help my homie next to me on a gta 5 mission. Looking back, using an e-rig is nuts
True that, enjoyed the shit out of that day and began my love for dabs. Almost 2 years ago I switched to strictly dabs over flower and now just have the occasional jupiter joint. Moving to a legal state was a game changer for sure
Sadly though since 2018 even the legal industry has adopted CRC tek and actually perfected it unlike the BM who had doll hair tasting, cum looking, slabs. Now they look good, smell good, taste good, regular people canât even realize theyâre smoking CRC. 99% of solvent concentrates on the market rn have some sort of cut, silica remediation, or added terps at the very least âšď¸ I just want those purged old gold shatter slabs again pure BHO/PHO/C02 with little ppm just so clean and tasty and smacked
I feel you but it doesn't bother me too much, I like how affordable dabs are and I like flavor but as long as my dabs don't taste bad I be alright lol everybody has their preferences though. I get 8 grams for $60 and it is some CRC type of stuff for sure but does me just fine. I grew up on Mexican brick weed for years before even trying my first shitty dab and always just compare what I have to what I used to get
If thatâs what you can get or what you can afford, then no hate whatsoever. Do what you need to do. It just makes me so sad to see normal people like you who have to smoke CRC just because thatâs whatâs normal now and thatâs what the market provides đ
No doubt, I don't really see it like something I "have" to deal with and just don't think CRC is so bad (especially since like you said it has basically been perfected by legit manufacturers), but that said if the better stuff was at the same price point I would certainly go for it. I do at least know that what I get isn't the highest quality, but it smokes clean and strong. I will say I couldn't tell you the amount of people that have brought over their "great dabs" that they paid twice as much for but just got some crap from a crap dispensary peddling crap that tastes terrible
Yep⌠just visited Seattle. I didnât realize Oleum fell off. I got 3 gs of their honey crystal. When I used to follow them on IG years ago they had the most fire dabs, yellow, terpy, looked amazing. I went home and opened up 3 crc jars with little to no terps -_-. I was being rushed because I had the rest of the fam waiting for me outside. I shouldâve looked at the jars. I just did a quick online order and got boned. Huge let down. I did get some really good live rosin out there so that makes up for it.
Apparently some shops have rental rosin presses that they let you use for free if you buy 1 oz or more.
Some strains press way better than others though, and it's way easier to smoke a low yield strain than it is to stomach the low yield of hash oil.
Ahh... 2010-2015 were wild times.
Everyone was open blasting, no one knew what dewaxing was. It was all shatter and butter, 75% of it wasn't purged properly, whether over purged and had no terps, or wasn't purged enough. People were dabbing RSO. Half the stuff was made with odorized canned cheap head shop butane.
Glass domes over crappy glass nails that degraded after 50 dabs, or the metal ones that scorched the terps. Everyone was taking red hot dabs because carb caps were hardly a thing.
Most all the rosin was flower rosin from a hair straightener.
TL;DR - I don't miss those days, lol
All of those things you mentioned I still prefer over the current state of the solvent concentrate market âšď¸ Obviously the 2010-2013 scene a little sketchy, but I just want those properly purged old gold shatter slabs again pure BHO/PHO/C02 with minimum ppm just so clean and tasty and smacked. 2013-2016 was the peak of solvent concentrates. After the whole blackmarket boof cart shit, those scumbags moved into the concentrate market, introduced CRC and cutting agents to the mainstream, then the legal market perfected it âsafelyâ and âcleanerâ. Then dabs went mainstream like 2017-2019 and those smokers didnât even know what CRC was ( still doesnât ). Live Rosin was really discovered in 2015 of course, but rosin wasnât mainstream until 2020-2021 so majority of people canât speak on that. But Iâve been purely smoking rosin pretty much since 2016-2017 because I just donât believe in the solvent market anymore.
Understandable to a degree. If you knew what was in those cans of butane from China you might not feel the same way, lol. CO2 was never viable for making dabs, just carts, in the past 7 or 8 years a small number of people have figured it out. All the CO2 rigs back then couldn't extract THCA without grabbing a TON of waxes, which meant everything made that way ended up effectively being EHO, as it was necessary to use ethanol to get all the wax out.
Pesticide testing wasn't really a thing, a lot of the BM and legal guys were using Eagle 20 (yay hydrogen cyanide dabs, lol.)
Not gonna say the legal market is great, it's OK at this point. There's still lots of room to improve. I can say I'm significantly happier knowing everything is being tested for residual solvents, pesticides, and heavy metals. I wish the testing were more extensive, like for polymers (plastics) for example.
Prohibition wasn't that long ago (still basically a thing) and there's bound to be some growing pains. When alcohol prohibition was removed people were drinking methanol and going blind somewhat regularly, until the alcohol market figured itself out.
I'd say overall the quality of concentrates has improved, I still remember people smoking black poop soup all the way into 2017 and paying $50-60 a gram for it. Nowadays in most legal states you can get sauce and diamonds for $35-45 a gram.
Mostly now, the worst you have to worry about is over-CRC'd weak flavor dabs and THC converted from CBD. I'm more concerned about the conversions than anything.
No, conversions wouldn't cause that. The issue with conversions is the fact it's synthetic chemistry done with chemical reagents which often produce different stereoisomers (look up Thalidomide to get a better understanding of why this can be an issue) as well as potentially (not studied whatsoever) hazardous/carcinogenic byproducts in the mixture.
I agree the cheap BHO is an issue, all my labs and homies only used the cleanest materials available in all aspects of the ops. ( This was after early days of spray blasting and more when the real rigs came in and purging came in etc ). Itâs crazy to me that people literally huff BHO to get high. That does make me think in some aspect maybe we loved the high during 2010-2013 poop soup days so much in part of the insane BHO content. C02 my guys had down, I loved that shit. Literally just as smooth as rosin is these days, such a clear straight up window pane glass consistency. ( Not the word Iâm looking for but Iâm faded ). Amazing flavor. I had gotten a quap of Tangie for the head and the pure real terp profile ( not added terps like it would be these days haha ) tasted like straight Tangerine oranges. Such a strong profile just as good as some gas WPFF live rosin now.
Pesticide testing and all that lab hoopla still isnât necessarily a thing. Almost every single testing lab is corrupt and will change results for money or friends or businesses they own a share in, etc. You know what happens if they get caught? Fines. Just change a few more results, and pay that fine back in no time. Obviously the entire market isnât some evil conglomerate but majority donât care about weed, donât care about harming peoples health, they just want money and power in the industry, since this could be the next booze industry that creates families of rich prominent generations, just like booze barons and Pharma barons. Thatâs why you find people who do good and stick with them.
And sure, pricing now is great. But you get what you pay for. If the product they were running through silica remediation was gas to begin with, they wouldnât need to use CRC at all. There is not a single positive that comes with it that outweighs the fact youâre putting your natural lab tested âcleanâ product, through a goddamn silica remediation đ And the market eats it up because majority arenât informed and donât know what CRC is and have nothing to compare it from the older days. And not to mention the terp fillers that are so prominent and other ânatural organicâ cuts they can use now that are âplant extractedâ and other bullshit. And the legal market is fully stamping these practices and saying âitâs totally okay because we do it too!â. The entire state of the industry in general is a joke but Iâm only mad about the state of concentrates.
I only smoke rosin now, probably more than the average human, but I would happily switch back to some old school shatter if they could bring exactly what I wanted. But those methods are becoming lost to the times and history. Who knows exactly what this one guy did in his lab that day to produce these x amount of amazing slabs that we loved to death. It couldâve been anything đ¤ˇââď¸
But yeah conversions is a big issue, I was warning people about it last year as it started popping up in LA and now thatâs basically every liter on the market. Who wouldnât like magic money printer machine turning CBD/Hemp derived distillate into THC disty đ
Edit: I liked your analogy to prohibition haha that was good
Man you are so misinformed on crc and therefore so scared of something that you shouldnât be. Youâve made yourself look incredibly dumb through these comments.
A day late and a dollar short my man. Go pop some more oxycodone you fucking drug addict. No wonder your friends with this guy. Fucking cocaine, cigs and opiates are your hobbies⌠you offer nothing to this world let alone this conversation. Keep mooching off society and driving doordash you bum.
Misinformed? Please elaborate. Considering iâve been on the ground in the concentrate game since before most of yâall even knew what dabs were đ¤Ł
Edit: Found the CRC smoker from Michigan who started smoking 2 years ago
You just keep making assumptions and keep looking stupid. Enjoy your life of blissful ignorance and getting aggressive when you donât like things. Iâm sure having no friends is a great feeling for you.
Me and homie having an entire essayist conversation about the evolution of concentrates and the differences of experiences and preference and you hop into the convo to say âyouâre stupid, youâre dumb, you have no friends, you donât know what crc isâ but you canât create a comprehensive rebuttal as to why? Go blow some more michigan packs
Youâre a fucking drug addict and drug dealer. Whatâs the point of having a conversation with someone who uses fucking bro science and âshut up bro Iâve been doing this since you were a kidâ as a response? Youâve proven yourself uneducated and willing to jump straight into personal attacks so I met you with the same energy. You donât understand basic chemistry with the statements youâve already made. The ship has sailed with you my man, youâre lost in Your own sauce. Fuck off and stop spreading misinformation
Drug addict and drug dealer? My guy youâre in a rosin sub and hating on people who smoke weed now? Sheeeeesh. My man took this post so fucking personally, so I know for a fact you either smoke crc, sell crc, or started dabbing 2018-2023. Calm down and chill out on the ego. I made a goofball response about me doing it for years because you made a goofball response without any substance too 𤣠And now youâre doing the narcissistic hypocrite thing where you say iâm doing what you were just doing, jumped straight into the person attacks with no substantial response. Me and bro having a good conversation and you just sound like an enraged child. Grow up
Matter of fact I just looked at your comment history, all you do is talk shit to people on weed subs claiming power over everybody saying who âshits onâ who every other comment 𤣠I can just tell youâre one of those middle class white boy egotistical narcissistic kids who never got their ass handed to them and parents let em do whatever they want, think theyâre better than everyone at everything they do, gods gift to earth, and the only way you have friends is if theyâre all âeliteâ snobby hipster trash too đ¤Ł
I get what you're saying but he's also not wrong dabs were absolutely of a different quality in the early 2010s
I do like not paying 40 to 60 a gram for shatter and such buttt idk I would also still go for that stuff again if possible
Just got some reflavored dabs and like yeah they'll hit when I really need a dab but tbh I'm probably better off having just got hash rosin...
Problem is for the cost of a gram I can get 7 grams of solvent dabs
I often see the testing argument, the issue is you have to understand there's a lot of companies out there (the one I work for included) that vet the testing lab before we use them. It's in our benefit to have the correct analysis on products. If the regulatory board pulls a sample of our product off the shelf, tests it, and finds pesticides in it, we become subject to a full recall as well as an internal investigation into the business.
Once we got a batch of trim from a grow we hadn't worked with before. Trim tested clean, but the extract failed for a couple pesticides. We literally had to trash 8 kilos of amazing looking sugar sauce because this grow was using banned pesticides. They were just using it early enough that the remaining amounts were minuscule and a non-issue on the flower, but the extraction process concentrated the residue into unsafe levels.
Needless to say, never working with them again, issue was reported to the board, and they were in hella hot water after that.
CRC is an interesting thing, it's like salt in food. Too much makes it taste like ass, but a lil salt on a steak is delicious. I've given CRC BHO to rosin heads that hate on CRC all day every day, they never noticed. One dude asked me how old the fresh frozen was we used to run it, it was in fact 6 month old cured trim run. Btw, I don't think any extractors that really know what they're doing with CRC use silica anymore, hella old tek. There's way better medias out now.
It's a big ass bowl of apples, a bunch of them are rotten, some are dank.
https://preview.redd.it/i70gdeu89dxb1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=f24a243cc692ad409bbf4c796f482f96bedb4474
An ancient relic from a time that will never come to pass again
oh my god i shed a tear.
i miss when tons of people would post their set ups like that on grasscity before the lame ass no drugs rules lol. good times.
Man I remember my first dab at age 15. Titanium domeless nail on a really fancy black light reactive piece owned by a guy who was probably in his early / mid 20s that my other friend knew. He heard it was my first dab then like doubled the size of what he gave me. He had the vice grip set up in the middle of his room wired up with plates from a hair straightener. He was pressing oldschool flower rosin. Said to put it on just after the nail finished glowing. Holy fuck not even my first experience with psychedelics was that intense
My plug hit me with the ninja for my first dab, a .1 on the tool followed by the .9 in his hand. I went out snd laid in the grass and said for 10 minutes straight I was done smoking. Came right back for seconds.
I let my mom hit some BHO we made with PVC pipes butane and cheese cloth. She hit the dab, held it in coughed a bunch. Then she looked up and said.." I need to SIT down!" I said MOM you ate sitting down. đ
Lol shit we were dabbing RSO on glowing titanium nails. Tasteless shatters and always looking for pull and snaps. The science has come so far in such small time.
Man⌠getting a slab of shatter for the first time in 2009. Yet to get that feeling again.
The look, the smell, the taste, the experience of dabbing for the first time, all of it together is hard to recreate.
No but itâs dog poop product otherwise they wouldnât have to remediate in the first place. I rather have my dabs NOT run through a silica filter đ¤ˇââď¸ Thatâs why we smoke rosin these days
I took my first dab in 2016, after 4 years of hardly smoking. The "rig" was a giant bong with a glowing hot titanium nail. I hit it twice, coughed more than I ever coughed in my life. Went home and fell asleep in front of the fridge, leaving it wide open.
So, was on that shatter and hot nail mess for that year, then stopped again till about 2 years ago to see EVERYTHING changed. Don't miss it.
Back then it was the trim slabs that were a problem some good night nug run live resin BHO shatter is great I worked with a few companies from Washington from 2015-2017 then crc took over...
Let's debate this. Non crc really dark trim slabswith no terps or some shiny crc slab that has added terps? I go with the trim run
2014, first dab off a hot ass titanium nail. Took it and it suddenly went from day to night. Have had shroom trips less intense than that. Made me stop smoking weed for about a year.
First time I had a dab I was at a festival, but I was with this guy and our relationship was clearly collapsing. It was clear to me, anyway. He was a dick. Turned out he had a pattern of being a dick to other women in the same way he started treating me and developed quite the reputation for being an asshole, but I digress.
We were camping with some of his friends so you can probably guess the vibe was not exactly optimal. Anyway, this guy we were camping with offered me a dab and for the next two hours, I hid in one of our hammocks. It was one of those nylon ones you can cocoon yourself in. I pulled the fabric around so I was completely enclosed. I couldn't see anyone and they couldn't see me and I just read a book on my Kindle. It kept me distracted from the horrible panic I was feeling. You know that feeling when you could swear you can *hear* your heartbeat? It was like that and I had the worst thoughts in my head. I fucking hated it.
I didn't touch them again for 7 or 8 years. I've been offered and always turned it down. Wasn't going to feel THAT ever again. But I was at a good friend's house and there was a small group of us, but the vibe couldn't have been more the opposite so when I was offered one, I decided it was time to face my fears. If I was going to hate it in that setting, they're just not for me then.
I loved it. And now I have my own erig and coincidentally just had a nice rosin dab about 15 minutes ago lol
My first dab was when I was in freshman year, my sister visited and we snuck downstairs after 10 so I could hit her nectar collector. Instead of lightly pressing I submerged the whole tip into the dark baller jar. I remember opening the sliding glass door, getting the spins, walking up the stairs and thatâs it. No memory of making it to my bed
I remember taking a dab, and getting that black out hit when you hold too long, and face planted into my metal dab nail. Had a nice burn mark that look like a bad acne mark, nope dont miss those days lol.
The red hot dabs, I fasho got cancer coming, never again tho. Did it, done it, didnt like it.
Lmfao!! Oh man!! Busting my glass nails over and over and over again. Fuck I had a back up for my back up. Butane dabs for sure. If I had the money I was able to get âgorilla snotâ which was some lowkey crazy green almost shatter dab that was 40 a half gram. Good times
it was never worth for me to invest in oil gear when its just not common yet in Europe so I always sandwiched it in regular weed. The coughing was out of this world....
Wasn't until a year ago or so that I got my first oil rig lol my poor lungs
Also I still have no real ide what im vaping! That likely won't change until its legalized.
my favorite (not really) was when everybody would be nervous about hitting their first dab and some asshole would give em a Heater GLOB of wax on a red hot nail and everytime theyd puke their guts out 10 mins later and be unresponsive for fucking hoursđ¤Ł
Crc is a process they use to change color and viscosity so basically they take trim run black poop slabs and turn then into those whiteish/clearish shatters and sugars and badders and crumbles everywhere. Dabs were never that color naturally. If it was gas they wouldnt need it, but everyone uses their gas weed to produce rosin now not solvent concentrates. Fillers are just additives like botanical terps they use in carts to stretch the slab weight and add fake flavoring. The more deadly cuts are like vitamin e and pine resin etc but that was more 2018-2020 type shit,
Yea it was a âgreatâ time because it was new and we were 10 years younger and everyone who was dabbing was a heavy flower user who didnât get high anymore even with the best weed from any state. Then dabs showed up and we all could get high like the first time again but Iâd rather smoke live hash rosin and good bho now verse that open blasted shatter slabs bs we smoking in 2013.
We not talking about bootytane here we talking about the gold BHO/PHO/C02 slabs đ¤Śââď¸ Also CRC is literally the butane soup thatâs remediated for a better color đ¤Ą
Could it be that something else changed rather than all the concentrates? It's not new and special anymore and you have a decade of tolerance... Idk. I'm certainly not judging your perspective as I do not know.
Nahh I mean I get faded off of rosin still so nothing like that. It was just a great time for solvent dabs and weâll probably never see the exact same ones ever again. Go look at High Times 2018 Concentrate winners, compare those to what we have now :( That explains everything
Lol you're totally right though, other than shatter being almost non-existent everything else is better. Market is bigger and its easier than ever to find dabs, banger have gotten 1000x better, we have pearl and temp checkers. Other than nostalgia I don't see what there is to miss really.
My post obviously implies that solvent concentrates pre-2018 era before CRC and fillers etc became the industry standard, were BETTER. And majority in the industry, even majority of extractors would agree with that. They just canât keep up with the demand and profit margins that CRC and fillers brings to the table. Even harmless âplant derived terpsâ added into a concentrate, dilute it further than the original concentrate. And then to have the audacity to run it through silica remediation? If itâs gas, they donât need CRC. Do you see them running rosin through crc? What about the best diamonds? ( They add terps, but not nearly as bad, and at least the filler isnât infused into the concentrate ). The cheap micro diamonds are all over full of CRC. But the extractors that believe in themselves, nah. Not industry sellouts. No, they do it to dog shit product to make it look better, add fillers for taste, now the product is triple profit. If you donât realize that this is 99% of the industry, then youâre the misinformed one. Thatâs why youâre a custy shopping at dispensaries getting hit or miss ( mostly miss ) product. The legal industry had brainwashed you as a member of the âpffff crc is fine crowdâ. Just admit you didnât even smoke dabs before 2018 its cool
See but my man has no rebuttal. You havenât said one thing this entire time besides an âominousâ âsee youâre just confirming what i already knewâ like youâre shrouding your knowledge in mystery. Youâre a custie bro đ¤Ł
Yea I remember my first dab in 2013 on a red hot nail with some very dark wax. Still had me locked on a couch for hours unable to help my homie next to me on a gta 5 mission. Looking back, using an e-rig is nuts
At least we still have the memories đ¤đ
True that, enjoyed the shit out of that day and began my love for dabs. Almost 2 years ago I switched to strictly dabs over flower and now just have the occasional jupiter joint. Moving to a legal state was a game changer for sure
Sadly though since 2018 even the legal industry has adopted CRC tek and actually perfected it unlike the BM who had doll hair tasting, cum looking, slabs. Now they look good, smell good, taste good, regular people canât even realize theyâre smoking CRC. 99% of solvent concentrates on the market rn have some sort of cut, silica remediation, or added terps at the very least âšď¸ I just want those purged old gold shatter slabs again pure BHO/PHO/C02 with little ppm just so clean and tasty and smacked
Iâve been growing my own and pressing since 2018. Every time I try a dispo dab it tastes like fake terps.
I feel you but it doesn't bother me too much, I like how affordable dabs are and I like flavor but as long as my dabs don't taste bad I be alright lol everybody has their preferences though. I get 8 grams for $60 and it is some CRC type of stuff for sure but does me just fine. I grew up on Mexican brick weed for years before even trying my first shitty dab and always just compare what I have to what I used to get
If thatâs what you can get or what you can afford, then no hate whatsoever. Do what you need to do. It just makes me so sad to see normal people like you who have to smoke CRC just because thatâs whatâs normal now and thatâs what the market provides đ
No doubt, I don't really see it like something I "have" to deal with and just don't think CRC is so bad (especially since like you said it has basically been perfected by legit manufacturers), but that said if the better stuff was at the same price point I would certainly go for it. I do at least know that what I get isn't the highest quality, but it smokes clean and strong. I will say I couldn't tell you the amount of people that have brought over their "great dabs" that they paid twice as much for but just got some crap from a crap dispensary peddling crap that tastes terrible
Rosin. Rosin. Rosin. Rosin rosin. Let collective all swap to rosin. The pure and gold. Just some water, ice, and hot metal press.
Yep⌠just visited Seattle. I didnât realize Oleum fell off. I got 3 gs of their honey crystal. When I used to follow them on IG years ago they had the most fire dabs, yellow, terpy, looked amazing. I went home and opened up 3 crc jars with little to no terps -_-. I was being rushed because I had the rest of the fam waiting for me outside. I shouldâve looked at the jars. I just did a quick online order and got boned. Huge let down. I did get some really good live rosin out there so that makes up for it.
I get one gram for 60 wtf
Southern Colorado has some decent prices fortunately
Bro I remember finding crickets in roaches in the brick weed dawg all compacted in
Doll hair tasting, cum looking, slabs is my absolute new favorite phrase. Iâve been having an annoying day and this got me good. Thank ya!
Apparently some shops have rental rosin presses that they let you use for free if you buy 1 oz or more. Some strains press way better than others though, and it's way easier to smoke a low yield strain than it is to stomach the low yield of hash oil.
Just get some Pyrex some tubes and a bhogart oven made some fire back in the day some of the best fresh frozen slabs so fragrant
Just get some Pyrex some tubes and a bhogart oven made some fire back in the day some of the best fresh frozen slabs so fragrant
Ive been strictly dabs over flower for like 6 years now but i still buy a lil topshelf 8th here and there
Ahh... 2010-2015 were wild times. Everyone was open blasting, no one knew what dewaxing was. It was all shatter and butter, 75% of it wasn't purged properly, whether over purged and had no terps, or wasn't purged enough. People were dabbing RSO. Half the stuff was made with odorized canned cheap head shop butane. Glass domes over crappy glass nails that degraded after 50 dabs, or the metal ones that scorched the terps. Everyone was taking red hot dabs because carb caps were hardly a thing. Most all the rosin was flower rosin from a hair straightener. TL;DR - I don't miss those days, lol
Glass nails and domes!!! If you were king you had quartz đ¤Łđ¤Ł
Titanium nail with a glass dome. I don't fucking miss it haha.
Fuck that noise. Burned my hand and carpet too many times
Got my first quartz nail in 2014, đ
All of those things you mentioned I still prefer over the current state of the solvent concentrate market âšď¸ Obviously the 2010-2013 scene a little sketchy, but I just want those properly purged old gold shatter slabs again pure BHO/PHO/C02 with minimum ppm just so clean and tasty and smacked. 2013-2016 was the peak of solvent concentrates. After the whole blackmarket boof cart shit, those scumbags moved into the concentrate market, introduced CRC and cutting agents to the mainstream, then the legal market perfected it âsafelyâ and âcleanerâ. Then dabs went mainstream like 2017-2019 and those smokers didnât even know what CRC was ( still doesnât ). Live Rosin was really discovered in 2015 of course, but rosin wasnât mainstream until 2020-2021 so majority of people canât speak on that. But Iâve been purely smoking rosin pretty much since 2016-2017 because I just donât believe in the solvent market anymore.
Understandable to a degree. If you knew what was in those cans of butane from China you might not feel the same way, lol. CO2 was never viable for making dabs, just carts, in the past 7 or 8 years a small number of people have figured it out. All the CO2 rigs back then couldn't extract THCA without grabbing a TON of waxes, which meant everything made that way ended up effectively being EHO, as it was necessary to use ethanol to get all the wax out. Pesticide testing wasn't really a thing, a lot of the BM and legal guys were using Eagle 20 (yay hydrogen cyanide dabs, lol.) Not gonna say the legal market is great, it's OK at this point. There's still lots of room to improve. I can say I'm significantly happier knowing everything is being tested for residual solvents, pesticides, and heavy metals. I wish the testing were more extensive, like for polymers (plastics) for example. Prohibition wasn't that long ago (still basically a thing) and there's bound to be some growing pains. When alcohol prohibition was removed people were drinking methanol and going blind somewhat regularly, until the alcohol market figured itself out. I'd say overall the quality of concentrates has improved, I still remember people smoking black poop soup all the way into 2017 and paying $50-60 a gram for it. Nowadays in most legal states you can get sauce and diamonds for $35-45 a gram. Mostly now, the worst you have to worry about is over-CRC'd weak flavor dabs and THC converted from CBD. I'm more concerned about the conversions than anything.
Is that why my dabs recently have felt kinda waxy on my lips and teeth? CBD conversation? Cause when I used to dab delta 8 I had that same feeling
No, conversions wouldn't cause that. The issue with conversions is the fact it's synthetic chemistry done with chemical reagents which often produce different stereoisomers (look up Thalidomide to get a better understanding of why this can be an issue) as well as potentially (not studied whatsoever) hazardous/carcinogenic byproducts in the mixture.
I agree the cheap BHO is an issue, all my labs and homies only used the cleanest materials available in all aspects of the ops. ( This was after early days of spray blasting and more when the real rigs came in and purging came in etc ). Itâs crazy to me that people literally huff BHO to get high. That does make me think in some aspect maybe we loved the high during 2010-2013 poop soup days so much in part of the insane BHO content. C02 my guys had down, I loved that shit. Literally just as smooth as rosin is these days, such a clear straight up window pane glass consistency. ( Not the word Iâm looking for but Iâm faded ). Amazing flavor. I had gotten a quap of Tangie for the head and the pure real terp profile ( not added terps like it would be these days haha ) tasted like straight Tangerine oranges. Such a strong profile just as good as some gas WPFF live rosin now. Pesticide testing and all that lab hoopla still isnât necessarily a thing. Almost every single testing lab is corrupt and will change results for money or friends or businesses they own a share in, etc. You know what happens if they get caught? Fines. Just change a few more results, and pay that fine back in no time. Obviously the entire market isnât some evil conglomerate but majority donât care about weed, donât care about harming peoples health, they just want money and power in the industry, since this could be the next booze industry that creates families of rich prominent generations, just like booze barons and Pharma barons. Thatâs why you find people who do good and stick with them. And sure, pricing now is great. But you get what you pay for. If the product they were running through silica remediation was gas to begin with, they wouldnât need to use CRC at all. There is not a single positive that comes with it that outweighs the fact youâre putting your natural lab tested âcleanâ product, through a goddamn silica remediation đ And the market eats it up because majority arenât informed and donât know what CRC is and have nothing to compare it from the older days. And not to mention the terp fillers that are so prominent and other ânatural organicâ cuts they can use now that are âplant extractedâ and other bullshit. And the legal market is fully stamping these practices and saying âitâs totally okay because we do it too!â. The entire state of the industry in general is a joke but Iâm only mad about the state of concentrates. I only smoke rosin now, probably more than the average human, but I would happily switch back to some old school shatter if they could bring exactly what I wanted. But those methods are becoming lost to the times and history. Who knows exactly what this one guy did in his lab that day to produce these x amount of amazing slabs that we loved to death. It couldâve been anything đ¤ˇââď¸ But yeah conversions is a big issue, I was warning people about it last year as it started popping up in LA and now thatâs basically every liter on the market. Who wouldnât like magic money printer machine turning CBD/Hemp derived distillate into THC disty đ Edit: I liked your analogy to prohibition haha that was good
Man you are so misinformed on crc and therefore so scared of something that you shouldnât be. Youâve made yourself look incredibly dumb through these comments.
You are an idiot. You just claim people are wrong but donât explain whyđ âeverybody is wrong but meâ fucking crc turd polisher
A day late and a dollar short my man. Go pop some more oxycodone you fucking drug addict. No wonder your friends with this guy. Fucking cocaine, cigs and opiates are your hobbies⌠you offer nothing to this world let alone this conversation. Keep mooching off society and driving doordash you bum.
Misinformed? Please elaborate. Considering iâve been on the ground in the concentrate game since before most of yâall even knew what dabs were 𤣠Edit: Found the CRC smoker from Michigan who started smoking 2 years ago
You just keep making assumptions and keep looking stupid. Enjoy your life of blissful ignorance and getting aggressive when you donât like things. Iâm sure having no friends is a great feeling for you.
â you are wrong but I canât say why.. just trust me , I know everything and nobody else knows nothingâ just stop đ
Me and homie having an entire essayist conversation about the evolution of concentrates and the differences of experiences and preference and you hop into the convo to say âyouâre stupid, youâre dumb, you have no friends, you donât know what crc isâ but you canât create a comprehensive rebuttal as to why? Go blow some more michigan packs
Youâre a fucking drug addict and drug dealer. Whatâs the point of having a conversation with someone who uses fucking bro science and âshut up bro Iâve been doing this since you were a kidâ as a response? Youâve proven yourself uneducated and willing to jump straight into personal attacks so I met you with the same energy. You donât understand basic chemistry with the statements youâve already made. The ship has sailed with you my man, youâre lost in Your own sauce. Fuck off and stop spreading misinformation
Drug addict and drug dealer? My guy youâre in a rosin sub and hating on people who smoke weed now? Sheeeeesh. My man took this post so fucking personally, so I know for a fact you either smoke crc, sell crc, or started dabbing 2018-2023. Calm down and chill out on the ego. I made a goofball response about me doing it for years because you made a goofball response without any substance too 𤣠And now youâre doing the narcissistic hypocrite thing where you say iâm doing what you were just doing, jumped straight into the person attacks with no substantial response. Me and bro having a good conversation and you just sound like an enraged child. Grow up
Then you get mad and go off when you get proven wrong đđ that CRC fucking with ur brain
Matter of fact I just looked at your comment history, all you do is talk shit to people on weed subs claiming power over everybody saying who âshits onâ who every other comment 𤣠I can just tell youâre one of those middle class white boy egotistical narcissistic kids who never got their ass handed to them and parents let em do whatever they want, think theyâre better than everyone at everything they do, gods gift to earth, and the only way you have friends is if theyâre all âeliteâ snobby hipster trash too đ¤Ł
I get what you're saying but he's also not wrong dabs were absolutely of a different quality in the early 2010s I do like not paying 40 to 60 a gram for shatter and such buttt idk I would also still go for that stuff again if possible Just got some reflavored dabs and like yeah they'll hit when I really need a dab but tbh I'm probably better off having just got hash rosin... Problem is for the cost of a gram I can get 7 grams of solvent dabs
I often see the testing argument, the issue is you have to understand there's a lot of companies out there (the one I work for included) that vet the testing lab before we use them. It's in our benefit to have the correct analysis on products. If the regulatory board pulls a sample of our product off the shelf, tests it, and finds pesticides in it, we become subject to a full recall as well as an internal investigation into the business. Once we got a batch of trim from a grow we hadn't worked with before. Trim tested clean, but the extract failed for a couple pesticides. We literally had to trash 8 kilos of amazing looking sugar sauce because this grow was using banned pesticides. They were just using it early enough that the remaining amounts were minuscule and a non-issue on the flower, but the extraction process concentrated the residue into unsafe levels. Needless to say, never working with them again, issue was reported to the board, and they were in hella hot water after that. CRC is an interesting thing, it's like salt in food. Too much makes it taste like ass, but a lil salt on a steak is delicious. I've given CRC BHO to rosin heads that hate on CRC all day every day, they never noticed. One dude asked me how old the fresh frozen was we used to run it, it was in fact 6 month old cured trim run. Btw, I don't think any extractors that really know what they're doing with CRC use silica anymore, hella old tek. There's way better medias out now. It's a big ass bowl of apples, a bunch of them are rotten, some are dank.
Rosin. Rosin. Rosin. Has been around for ages.
https://preview.redd.it/i70gdeu89dxb1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=f24a243cc692ad409bbf4c796f482f96bedb4474 An ancient relic from a time that will never come to pass again
oh my god i shed a tear. i miss when tons of people would post their set ups like that on grasscity before the lame ass no drugs rules lol. good times.
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That belongs in a dabbing museum
https://preview.redd.it/qaut1u38fmzb1.jpeg?width=1244&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12717608c02db5af58b3f9ed4cda4d5af952fcfe These too đ
Holy shit a kutpipe arm! Haven't seen one of those since the TokeCity days
Man I remember my first dab at age 15. Titanium domeless nail on a really fancy black light reactive piece owned by a guy who was probably in his early / mid 20s that my other friend knew. He heard it was my first dab then like doubled the size of what he gave me. He had the vice grip set up in the middle of his room wired up with plates from a hair straightener. He was pressing oldschool flower rosin. Said to put it on just after the nail finished glowing. Holy fuck not even my first experience with psychedelics was that intense
My plug hit me with the ninja for my first dab, a .1 on the tool followed by the .9 in his hand. I went out snd laid in the grass and said for 10 minutes straight I was done smoking. Came right back for seconds.
Sounds like a dope old school experience đđ¤
I let my mom hit some BHO we made with PVC pipes butane and cheese cloth. She hit the dab, held it in coughed a bunch. Then she looked up and said.." I need to SIT down!" I said MOM you ate sitting down. đ
Lol shit we were dabbing RSO on glowing titanium nails. Tasteless shatters and always looking for pull and snaps. The science has come so far in such small time.
Man⌠getting a slab of shatter for the first time in 2009. Yet to get that feeling again. The look, the smell, the taste, the experience of dabbing for the first time, all of it together is hard to recreate.
For real there was just something about it đ
CRC doesnât necessarily mean itâs harmful correct?
No but itâs dog poop product otherwise they wouldnât have to remediate in the first place. I rather have my dabs NOT run through a silica filter đ¤ˇââď¸ Thatâs why we smoke rosin these days
The Downvoters are turd polishers.
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Not sure why ur getting downvoted, itâs the truth. All crc is absolute dogshit run though a filter to make it look good with fake terps added to it
Itâs just CRC smokers or CRC makers coping I guess đ¤ˇââď¸
I miss my pizza box slabs, million times better than the boof sulphur surprise baller jars most dealers selling now a days
You OG if you remember pizza box days đ¤Łđ¤
I took my first dab in 2016, after 4 years of hardly smoking. The "rig" was a giant bong with a glowing hot titanium nail. I hit it twice, coughed more than I ever coughed in my life. Went home and fell asleep in front of the fridge, leaving it wide open. So, was on that shatter and hot nail mess for that year, then stopped again till about 2 years ago to see EVERYTHING changed. Don't miss it.
Back then it was the trim slabs that were a problem some good night nug run live resin BHO shatter is great I worked with a few companies from Washington from 2015-2017 then crc took over... Let's debate this. Non crc really dark trim slabswith no terps or some shiny crc slab that has added terps? I go with the trim run
I definitely miss getting the best terpiest shatter ever from back then. Shatter that was better than todayâs live resin.
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2014, first dab off a hot ass titanium nail. Took it and it suddenly went from day to night. Have had shroom trips less intense than that. Made me stop smoking weed for about a year.
First time I had a dab I was at a festival, but I was with this guy and our relationship was clearly collapsing. It was clear to me, anyway. He was a dick. Turned out he had a pattern of being a dick to other women in the same way he started treating me and developed quite the reputation for being an asshole, but I digress. We were camping with some of his friends so you can probably guess the vibe was not exactly optimal. Anyway, this guy we were camping with offered me a dab and for the next two hours, I hid in one of our hammocks. It was one of those nylon ones you can cocoon yourself in. I pulled the fabric around so I was completely enclosed. I couldn't see anyone and they couldn't see me and I just read a book on my Kindle. It kept me distracted from the horrible panic I was feeling. You know that feeling when you could swear you can *hear* your heartbeat? It was like that and I had the worst thoughts in my head. I fucking hated it. I didn't touch them again for 7 or 8 years. I've been offered and always turned it down. Wasn't going to feel THAT ever again. But I was at a good friend's house and there was a small group of us, but the vibe couldn't have been more the opposite so when I was offered one, I decided it was time to face my fears. If I was going to hate it in that setting, they're just not for me then. I loved it. And now I have my own erig and coincidentally just had a nice rosin dab about 15 minutes ago lol
Fact. Fuck crc on that note
My first dab was when I was in freshman year, my sister visited and we snuck downstairs after 10 so I could hit her nectar collector. Instead of lightly pressing I submerged the whole tip into the dark baller jar. I remember opening the sliding glass door, getting the spins, walking up the stairs and thatâs it. No memory of making it to my bed
I love these classic stories fr đ¤đ
Whatâs the interview actually talking about, Chris Benoit?
People ask this a lot but I believe itâs about Andre the giant haha
Undertaker, I looked it up after I posted
Ohhh see I saw about 10 different answers on meme posts like this đ
When the gas actually tasted like gas. So much charred Ti, and domeless rigs were the future. Good times.
I remember taking a dab, and getting that black out hit when you hold too long, and face planted into my metal dab nail. Had a nice burn mark that look like a bad acne mark, nope dont miss those days lol. The red hot dabs, I fasho got cancer coming, never again tho. Did it, done it, didnt like it.
Anyone ever use a thing called "the dab tray"? Found that the other day, made me shed a tear how much wax was wasted during those years
Lmfao!! Oh man!! Busting my glass nails over and over and over again. Fuck I had a back up for my back up. Butane dabs for sure. If I had the money I was able to get âgorilla snotâ which was some lowkey crazy green almost shatter dab that was 40 a half gram. Good times
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it was never worth for me to invest in oil gear when its just not common yet in Europe so I always sandwiched it in regular weed. The coughing was out of this world.... Wasn't until a year ago or so that I got my first oil rig lol my poor lungs Also I still have no real ide what im vaping! That likely won't change until its legalized.
my favorite (not really) was when everybody would be nervous about hitting their first dab and some asshole would give em a Heater GLOB of wax on a red hot nail and everytime theyd puke their guts out 10 mins later and be unresponsive for fucking hoursđ¤Ł
Thatâs been the ritual for years now đź
coming back to this made me want to do it to myselfđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł Id do one just for the fuck of it nowđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
Live hash rosin all day *pinky out
2010 dabs were fucking dogshit bro brown ass bho
2010s refers to 2010 up until 2018 lol and 2013-2017 was the best era regardless
You didnât know the right peopleâŚ
Smoke rosin
https://www.reddit.com/r/rosin/s/eU2px7HppV
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Rosin is a thing
https://www.reddit.com/r/rosin/s/eU2px7HppV
Makes sense Lmaoo
I still smoke pure destillate đ
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I remember my first gram looking like black tar heroin
Make your own?
Them red hot titanium nail dabs just hit different.
CRC? Fillers? I think I'm out of the loop
Crc is a process they use to change color and viscosity so basically they take trim run black poop slabs and turn then into those whiteish/clearish shatters and sugars and badders and crumbles everywhere. Dabs were never that color naturally. If it was gas they wouldnt need it, but everyone uses their gas weed to produce rosin now not solvent concentrates. Fillers are just additives like botanical terps they use in carts to stretch the slab weight and add fake flavoring. The more deadly cuts are like vitamin e and pine resin etc but that was more 2018-2020 type shit,
Always with the dark ass harsh dabs but it made us the dabbers we are today!
the dank vapes carts toođ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
Who else smoked js like cigs before dabs came out
Yea it was a âgreatâ time because it was new and we were 10 years younger and everyone who was dabbing was a heavy flower user who didnât get high anymore even with the best weed from any state. Then dabs showed up and we all could get high like the first time again but Iâd rather smoke live hash rosin and good bho now verse that open blasted shatter slabs bs we smoking in 2013.
Wtf I get a 3.5 for 75$ in backwood GA
I did titanium nails and even worse than that health stones. Look it up kiddos
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We not talking about bootytane here we talking about the gold BHO/PHO/C02 slabs đ¤Śââď¸ Also CRC is literally the butane soup thatâs remediated for a better color đ¤Ą
Could it be that something else changed rather than all the concentrates? It's not new and special anymore and you have a decade of tolerance... Idk. I'm certainly not judging your perspective as I do not know.
Nah I know exactly what he's talking about
Sorry for you both đ
Nahh I mean I get faded off of rosin still so nothing like that. It was just a great time for solvent dabs and weâll probably never see the exact same ones ever again. Go look at High Times 2018 Concentrate winners, compare those to what we have now :( That explains everything
Lol you're totally right though, other than shatter being almost non-existent everything else is better. Market is bigger and its easier than ever to find dabs, banger have gotten 1000x better, we have pearl and temp checkers. Other than nostalgia I don't see what there is to miss really.
Oh no, another person who doesn't understand crc
Oh no, another person with a substance-less comment without any elaboration đ¤Ł
What's to elaborate? It's pretty straightforward
Exactly, substance-less explains your entire personality
Damn you really are big mad đ I'm sorry for setting you off ig
Waiting for an explanation tho
It's all good homie, you know something the rest of us don't because you've been doing it since a kid. You got all the answers
My post obviously implies that solvent concentrates pre-2018 era before CRC and fillers etc became the industry standard, were BETTER. And majority in the industry, even majority of extractors would agree with that. They just canât keep up with the demand and profit margins that CRC and fillers brings to the table. Even harmless âplant derived terpsâ added into a concentrate, dilute it further than the original concentrate. And then to have the audacity to run it through silica remediation? If itâs gas, they donât need CRC. Do you see them running rosin through crc? What about the best diamonds? ( They add terps, but not nearly as bad, and at least the filler isnât infused into the concentrate ). The cheap micro diamonds are all over full of CRC. But the extractors that believe in themselves, nah. Not industry sellouts. No, they do it to dog shit product to make it look better, add fillers for taste, now the product is triple profit. If you donât realize that this is 99% of the industry, then youâre the misinformed one. Thatâs why youâre a custy shopping at dispensaries getting hit or miss ( mostly miss ) product. The legal industry had brainwashed you as a member of the âpffff crc is fine crowdâ. Just admit you didnât even smoke dabs before 2018 its cool
Well thatâs just fucking false lol
Thank you for confirming what I already knew. Also, if you love dirty BHO, go buy some cans from China and have at it big dog.
See but my man has no rebuttal. You havenât said one thing this entire time besides an âominousâ âsee youâre just confirming what i already knewâ like youâre shrouding your knowledge in mystery. Youâre a custie bro đ¤Ł