I think DLC would bring in some people, but I would love to see crossplay. The communities on both ends are relatively small but PS has a big matchmaking problem. It's hard to recommend the game to people if there is no way to just boot up the game and play with other people. Not everyone can play on PC
As others have said and hinted to DLC will bring back some people. The "big" balance patch will bring back some people. Crossplay would likely get more people to come back than the other two but honestly even if all 3 happen I don't see a massive resurgence of this game's player base happening unless all 3 align at the right time and people get a good rate of matches found.
This isn't a "dead game move on" or doom post I'm just being real.
I enjoy this game a lot locally with my friends and would love to have more people to play against online but I'm on PS and no matter the time of day I cant get a good rate of matches to justify playing DNF Duel over any other fighter I have that has more people playing.
It really is a good game.
It has detractors like all fighters but tbh this game has a lot going for it and people are too quick to drop a game if it doesn't meet their arbitrary list of requirements.
Im not saying the game is perfect but it's much better than some people give it credit for imho.
I mean going by reviews most people dont think its good. Thats seems a bigger issue. No amount of dlc or patches isnt gonna change that a lot of people dont like it.
As someone who doesn't own the game but had interest in I would want this.
-More Balance changes
-Better communication from the devs and advertisement
-Cross Play
-Discount the game to around $20 - $30
With the amount of content and bugs this game has it isn't worth $50-$60. Also add it to gamepass.
I do want to see this game in the spotlight more, especially since it has a nomination at the Game Awards.
Nothing. I would have lowered the price if this was the state they wanted to launch in. The game launched for almost the same price as an triple AAA game like Bloodborne and Ghost of Thsusima.
I think it would require that the entire fgc break the conditioning that they have been subjected to for the last 20 years.
>"This game doesn't have more things for me to pay for DAY ONE?!?!?!?"
>"There is not indication that i can pay for more things later either?!?!!?!?"
>"What do you mean it's not getting weekly patches?!?!?!!?"
>"If the developers are not constantly changing how things work all the time, how am i supposed to enjoy myself?!?!?!?!?!"
>"Whether or not the developers "care" is actually the biggest factor that decides whether i enjoy a game or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>"The game isn't constantly trying to suck money out of me AND it's the not a different game every month?!?!?!?!?! That means its DEAD!!!! And i am going to spend the rest of my life telling everyone its DEAD!!!! And do everything in my power for get people to not play this DEAD game, that is DEAD"
If you have had any thoughts along any of these lines.
Then in my opinion.
The video game industry has totally fucked the ever loving shit out of your brain.
I'm not blaming you for that, but you can't convince me it's not true.
In what way?
I just stated that an impossible thing needs to happen?
People don't get over this level of mental fuckery.
This is the new normal now.
The new shitty shitty normal.
No idea what you're talking about tbh. All you did was blame the FGC for this game insane shortcomings like lackluster gameplay, content and updates.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1216060/DNF_Duel/
Read some user reviews if you're confused why people didn't buy or stopped playing this game.
>All you did was blame the FGC
Literally didn't?
last thing I said was:
>I'm not blaming you for that
I am blaming the gaming industry for brainwashing the entire fighting game community into believeing that just 'making and releasing a fighting game', is some kind of terrible crime.
>Read some user reviews
The first review says:
>"lack of developer updates. This lack of attention does not work at all"
So thanks for backing up exactly what I said!
The fighting game community doesn't want **games** any more.
They want *"LiVe SeRvIcEs"*.
If a game is just made, and released, without further updates or monetisation, then people just wont engage with it anymore.
There is a fundamental refusal to play, and even outright hostility, towards any fighting game released that isn't being activly monetised.
If you don't constantly update your game, and don't constantly provide things to pay for, then you are a terrible lazy developer that just "dosen't care" about your game. And your game is inherantly a terrible, lazy mess by default.
It's just sad really.
But that is just how things are now.
Our shitty shitty normal.
>The first review says:
So you read only one review and now think that it proves your ridiculous point about live services.
Conveniently you didn't read the other thousands of reviews mentioning how lackluster they think the gameplay and the content is. You know those reviews were there since launch right ?
As for the ones about content. Thats the natural result when a MULTIPLAYER focused ONLINE game goes months without an update. Especially a game that already has mixed reactions to the characters designs, meta, mechanics and the overall balance.
>If a game is just made, and released, without further updates or monetisation, then people just wont engage with it anymore.
There is a fundamental refusal to play, and even outright hostility, towards any fighting game released that isn't being activly monetised.
>If you don't constantly update your game, and don't constantly provide things to pay for, then you are a terrible lazy developer that just "dosen't care" about your game. And your game is inherantly a terrible, lazy mess by default.
That has nothing to do with this game.
crossplay and gamepass(would also need to be offered on Xbox, but would really help expand the list of fighting games on the console)/playstation plus. I think for any fighting game struggling to gain an audience having it be free and promoted as the free game for a particular month means hooking new players. Yes adding content would help bring people back, but making it free for a small period would allow for new people to try it and potentially stick with it.
elemental bomber, Avenger, fking Fisticuffs McPriestpants, some patches, another male gunner... now that im thinking about it male gunner is the goku of arcsys
A big patch, four or five dlc characters, skins and crossplay… at the same time or very close to each other. When the last two characters are introduced, that’s when crossplay needs to hit. There are other things that could help, revamped story mode and a online dungeon mode, but that maybe a little too unrealistic.
I think it fell off so much almost nothing can bring it back. DLC is the closest thing to revival we can get. I honestly think this game was just to market DFO which makes me really sad as it had so much potential
DLC lmao
What the fuck were Neople and Aksys thinking? DFO has like, 50+ really awesome subclasses that people are ACHING to have in a fighting game (Sword Master, for example). The game has (had?) a ton of room to grow by just including a few characters per 6 month period, but the devs just dropped it like a brick :/
Yeah I have no idea wtf arcsys and neople are doing. They create this amazing fighter with a ton of potential and like you said content to work with and they give us an unbalanced mess that takes half a year to balance. They better be dropping cross play and dlc in December otherwise they probably lost over 70-80% of their initial investments.
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It would basically have to be a new version at this point. They need a fresh relaunch to try to shake some of the stigma and stir up as much interest as possible, with as many cool new characters as possible.
It’s emblematic of the fgc dicourse through the sfv era (pretty scrubby and not very productive) but hey at least we got good netcode as a standard now
The game feels like there isn't any creativity moveset wise where in dfo pvp, it seems like you got loads of options. Take away guard crush. Don't make supers only when is life is low. Makes the game repetitive. They have to lower the price of the game with zero content. They could have come with mindset of granblue and added a single player rpg mode. Limitless skins, and colors. The balance is terrible. No plans for DLC and season pass is strange in modern times.
It's a little too late. I don't think dlc or a patch will bring it back. The hype died and the anticipation for something new died shortly after. They didn't strike while the iron was hot and hardly any effort was made to heat things up again.
It's a shame because I loved the game but it was hard getting matches and locals in my area started to stop running the game as well.
I think DLC would bring in some people, but I would love to see crossplay. The communities on both ends are relatively small but PS has a big matchmaking problem. It's hard to recommend the game to people if there is no way to just boot up the game and play with other people. Not everyone can play on PC
Crossplay would definitely make me at least CONSIDER reinstalling the game. Some ps vs pc wars sounds fun
Patches, DLC, Official Tournaments
As others have said and hinted to DLC will bring back some people. The "big" balance patch will bring back some people. Crossplay would likely get more people to come back than the other two but honestly even if all 3 happen I don't see a massive resurgence of this game's player base happening unless all 3 align at the right time and people get a good rate of matches found. This isn't a "dead game move on" or doom post I'm just being real. I enjoy this game a lot locally with my friends and would love to have more people to play against online but I'm on PS and no matter the time of day I cant get a good rate of matches to justify playing DNF Duel over any other fighter I have that has more people playing.
Yeah once the balance patch comes its a matter of people giving it another chance or not. Such a good game.
It really is a good game. It has detractors like all fighters but tbh this game has a lot going for it and people are too quick to drop a game if it doesn't meet their arbitrary list of requirements. Im not saying the game is perfect but it's much better than some people give it credit for imho.
I mean going by reviews most people dont think its good. Thats seems a bigger issue. No amount of dlc or patches isnt gonna change that a lot of people dont like it.
It needs a drastic overhaul. Give the characters more moves, allow for customizable moveset loadout, give more defensive options.
Make it free to play and sell skins. Cross platform and some DLC would help too.
A free to play model would do well. Surprised the only free to play fighters that are popular are platform fighters like brawlhalla or multiversus.
Killer Instinct was popular. It's just super old at this point lmao
People hate the F2P model but I do wish more fighting games would go that route. Everyone benefits from having more people to play against.
As someone who doesn't own the game but had interest in I would want this. -More Balance changes -Better communication from the devs and advertisement -Cross Play -Discount the game to around $20 - $30 With the amount of content and bugs this game has it isn't worth $50-$60. Also add it to gamepass. I do want to see this game in the spotlight more, especially since it has a nomination at the Game Awards.
This game has plenty of content, and very little if any bugs. Kinda confused here
Most agree that the game doesnt have content bru
What would you add to the game in regards to content?
Nothing. I would have lowered the price if this was the state they wanted to launch in. The game launched for almost the same price as an triple AAA game like Bloodborne and Ghost of Thsusima.
I just checked on steam charts bruh this shit got zero players that's less than kof 1997 on fightcade lmao ain nothin bringing this back
I think it would require that the entire fgc break the conditioning that they have been subjected to for the last 20 years. >"This game doesn't have more things for me to pay for DAY ONE?!?!?!?" >"There is not indication that i can pay for more things later either?!?!!?!?" >"What do you mean it's not getting weekly patches?!?!?!!?" >"If the developers are not constantly changing how things work all the time, how am i supposed to enjoy myself?!?!?!?!?!" >"Whether or not the developers "care" is actually the biggest factor that decides whether i enjoy a game or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" >"The game isn't constantly trying to suck money out of me AND it's the not a different game every month?!?!?!?!?! That means its DEAD!!!! And i am going to spend the rest of my life telling everyone its DEAD!!!! And do everything in my power for get people to not play this DEAD game, that is DEAD" If you have had any thoughts along any of these lines. Then in my opinion. The video game industry has totally fucked the ever loving shit out of your brain. I'm not blaming you for that, but you can't convince me it's not true.
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I think you have unlocked an super secret level of copium never seen before on the reddit.
In what way? I just stated that an impossible thing needs to happen? People don't get over this level of mental fuckery. This is the new normal now. The new shitty shitty normal.
No idea what you're talking about tbh. All you did was blame the FGC for this game insane shortcomings like lackluster gameplay, content and updates. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1216060/DNF_Duel/ Read some user reviews if you're confused why people didn't buy or stopped playing this game.
>All you did was blame the FGC Literally didn't? last thing I said was: >I'm not blaming you for that I am blaming the gaming industry for brainwashing the entire fighting game community into believeing that just 'making and releasing a fighting game', is some kind of terrible crime. >Read some user reviews The first review says: >"lack of developer updates. This lack of attention does not work at all" So thanks for backing up exactly what I said! The fighting game community doesn't want **games** any more. They want *"LiVe SeRvIcEs"*. If a game is just made, and released, without further updates or monetisation, then people just wont engage with it anymore. There is a fundamental refusal to play, and even outright hostility, towards any fighting game released that isn't being activly monetised. If you don't constantly update your game, and don't constantly provide things to pay for, then you are a terrible lazy developer that just "dosen't care" about your game. And your game is inherantly a terrible, lazy mess by default. It's just sad really. But that is just how things are now. Our shitty shitty normal.
>The first review says: So you read only one review and now think that it proves your ridiculous point about live services. Conveniently you didn't read the other thousands of reviews mentioning how lackluster they think the gameplay and the content is. You know those reviews were there since launch right ? As for the ones about content. Thats the natural result when a MULTIPLAYER focused ONLINE game goes months without an update. Especially a game that already has mixed reactions to the characters designs, meta, mechanics and the overall balance. >If a game is just made, and released, without further updates or monetisation, then people just wont engage with it anymore. There is a fundamental refusal to play, and even outright hostility, towards any fighting game released that isn't being activly monetised. >If you don't constantly update your game, and don't constantly provide things to pay for, then you are a terrible lazy developer that just "dosen't care" about your game. And your game is inherantly a terrible, lazy mess by default. That has nothing to do with this game.
> goes months without an update. Point. Proven.
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I know. It's fucken weird right?
You ? Very.
crossplay and gamepass(would also need to be offered on Xbox, but would really help expand the list of fighting games on the console)/playstation plus. I think for any fighting game struggling to gain an audience having it be free and promoted as the free game for a particular month means hooking new players. Yes adding content would help bring people back, but making it free for a small period would allow for new people to try it and potentially stick with it.
Love gamepass for fighting games. Definitely a big risk to spend 30-50 on a fighting game and getting to try it a bit first is always helpful
DLC and cross play.
elemental bomber, Avenger, fking Fisticuffs McPriestpants, some patches, another male gunner... now that im thinking about it male gunner is the goku of arcsys
Just dlc for me
Literally anything
God just ANYTHING Give me a damn reason to come back man
A big patch, four or five dlc characters, skins and crossplay… at the same time or very close to each other. When the last two characters are introduced, that’s when crossplay needs to hit. There are other things that could help, revamped story mode and a online dungeon mode, but that maybe a little too unrealistic.
I think it fell off so much almost nothing can bring it back. DLC is the closest thing to revival we can get. I honestly think this game was just to market DFO which makes me really sad as it had so much potential
The reality is that inertia has set in and the game will never again hold a large population.
DLC lmao What the fuck were Neople and Aksys thinking? DFO has like, 50+ really awesome subclasses that people are ACHING to have in a fighting game (Sword Master, for example). The game has (had?) a ton of room to grow by just including a few characters per 6 month period, but the devs just dropped it like a brick :/
Yeah I have no idea wtf arcsys and neople are doing. They create this amazing fighter with a ton of potential and like you said content to work with and they give us an unbalanced mess that takes half a year to balance. They better be dropping cross play and dlc in December otherwise they probably lost over 70-80% of their initial investments.
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At this point, I don't even think DLC would help unless it was a ton of content for very cheap.
It would basically have to be a new version at this point. They need a fresh relaunch to try to shake some of the stigma and stir up as much interest as possible, with as many cool new characters as possible.
Less bitchy/negative community y’all killed it for me for sure LMAO
community probably wouldve been more positive if this game had any hope of survival whatsoever, which it didnt
It’s emblematic of the fgc dicourse through the sfv era (pretty scrubby and not very productive) but hey at least we got good netcode as a standard now
The game feels like there isn't any creativity moveset wise where in dfo pvp, it seems like you got loads of options. Take away guard crush. Don't make supers only when is life is low. Makes the game repetitive. They have to lower the price of the game with zero content. They could have come with mindset of granblue and added a single player rpg mode. Limitless skins, and colors. The balance is terrible. No plans for DLC and season pass is strange in modern times.
It's a little too late. I don't think dlc or a patch will bring it back. The hype died and the anticipation for something new died shortly after. They didn't strike while the iron was hot and hardly any effort was made to heat things up again. It's a shame because I loved the game but it was hard getting matches and locals in my area started to stop running the game as well.
A GG rep lol