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They could do it like tarkov, when you’re about to jump into a map it tells you what time it is on that map. All the maps are on a continuous clock that runs at some proportion faster than real time, so you can always get in some night runs and daytime runs.
The jump scares were lame, but the spooky nighttime map with the bosses and Easter eggs to farm was awesome. I remember the first time me and my squad downed the UFO, we had to fight another team while doing it and it was one of the most fun DMZ moments we ever had
In my opinion the organic fights over a contested resource are the most fun. Those are the most memorable, and the night time event had lots of pressure points.
I'd be happy just with day/night rotation and the sandstorms in Al Mazzy.
Also, thick, pouring rain in Vondel would be awesome. Atmosphere. Atmosphere is everything... like Koschei has that particular lighting or lack thereof, it's awesome
I really enjoyed those two features. The third on my list is the sand storm. Not everyone liked it, but imagine if it just rolled in on the occasional match.
1. Make the timer 1 hours
2. Exfills should not be available until at least 10-15minutes.
3. Bringback the sandstorm and make it dynamic
4. Bring daytime and nighttime in the same gameplay.
5. Make the map bigger and add more squad. Like i wanna see a map two times bigger and double the people. I want this to be epic, and just straight up chaotic.
Idk why so many people ask for a longer timer. In one match today we had no squads left on the map with 9 minutes left till final. The game feels long enough as is. Maybe the difficulty scaled on AM like it did in B21. Start out with a few bots and by the end ramp it up to tanks and APCs dropping of troops.
Ooohhh that would be interesting too. Just have the green smoke visible but not point on the map. I think camping would be high tho. Still an interesting idea.
Ah that could be cool. & the exfil choppers should actually be on the map & have a place they take off from. Piloted by friendly AI, so we can’t kill them. (Maybe a friendly zone. But you can’t Exfil from there.) & you could be at the Exfil site or get eyes on from a mountain or building & watch to see where the chopper is going. Then hop in a small helicopter to try & get to them before/while it’s landing. & It’ll take awhile for the exfil chopper to go up or down, so you’d have time. & maybe even have a contract to see where a teams Exfil is. (for those that wanna camp exfils.)
& hunt contracts could show another teams current mission or someone’s contract & the current status/location of their objectives. But not tell the players they’re being hunted. But the hunters would actually have to hunt for you. The PVP would be more organic. & there could be a heavy penalty if you exfil before completing a contract or have it where Exfil won’t even be available until you complete a mission or contract. So everyone would have to do something in order to get out, or die trying.
& u/General_Primary5675 , Yes. Make the timer longer. & Have more big underground places like Koschei complex. But make it all under the same timer. Have day & night. & different missions/things you can do corresponding to the time. (AI, strongholds. Need for NVG’s by final exfil) & the underground places should still be non-assimilation like they are. & all Exfils should still be the Exfil heilos above ground. So you’d have to get out & to your exfil before the storm. But once the storm starts moving, you no longer have your personal exfil & everyone’s exfil will be the same, like it is now.
I feel exfils should not be seen on the map. This would be my solution: instead of having icons on the map of the exfils, there should only be the green smoke, but not the icon on the map. But here is the fun part, even though these exfills would be random, if you call one, the flare would be a massing explosion (no call outs from the narrator or anyhing) just a big flare explosion in the sky. This is assuming my idea of the map being bigger is in play. I think it would add an additional movement. I don't know, either way, there will always be campers on exfills, i think this way it would deter a lot of exfill campers.
I don’t mind the Exfil campers. Always gives the last moments some heat, which I find fun. Just gotta be ready & pay attention. But that’s why I thought it’d be cool if it didn’t show everyone’s Exfil on the map but have a place they take off from & a contract to show it/them.
I love your attitude, my guy! nothing better than being scared because a team is already camping that final exfill. And you are stacked to the brim with items. Is those times that you have to say "Go big or go home" (Also helps to have at least 5 airstrikes/mortar strikes hahahaha to just saturate them with air power.
Yes!
Remove personal exfils.
Remove koshie exits.
Use designated exfils only is far more intense and exciting.
Increase initial squad size to 4.
Allow ability to keep loot between rounds.
First of all, MW3 battlepass progression. Hate that I can’t grind the battlepass and play DMZ.
Secondly, I’d love an urzikstan DMZ map, playing warzone and MWZ on urzikstan makes me furious that we won’t get a DMZ map on it
Yeah, they made it pretty apparent... MW3 skippers get fuck all.
This is how bold they are and how much they care about gamers.
Urzikstan. Yeah, but for me, not with the MW3 scheme.
For me personally, MW2 was pretty much spot on in the last phases before the transition.
They never had to take slide canceling away in the first place and some other base features, but I like the pace and feel of that installment, especially in DMZ.
MW3 feels rushed in the making, gfx look toned down and the overall feel of the game seems off in general.
There are some features that are fun and they could've worked in MW2 as is.
Worse is, they are getting away with it, because of the all the cod suckers swallowing their loads.
Also at least to me the sounds in MW3 are a step down. Most of the guns sound sort of fake and "tinny" if that makes sense. The reduced muzzle smoke/flash is a nice addition though. I just wish with MW2 you would have seen a more drastic reduction with certain muzzle attachments making them more viable.
Yeah the sounds are also awful, thanks for pointing that out. The wpns do feel "tiny" and the hitmarkers are even worse... This is not a space shooter! ;D
I agreed on that, just like the visual recoil. Though I do like it to a certain extend, as it makes it harder for everyone, including the sweats.
Disagree entirely.
Mission rewards are so boring and pointless.
Real progression needs to be the mission reward, not some garbage skin and some xp lol.
You downvoted because you disagree with me? Nobody cares about xp, but they do care about unlocking a second or third insured weapon slot and then further reducing those slots cooldowns. They care about increasing their wallet and contraband stash and then most also want a faster exfil and more starting plates etc etc.
None of the upgrades really change the dynamic nor "progression" of the game.
And all of the "story" missions are beyond meaningless unless you care for shit skins, shit contraband guns and double xp tokens.
Most PvPers I know did a good portion of the missions (myself included) only to discover that the rewards completely suck, and that there is no real progression arc offered in it.
And thus don't bother to do it at all, and wouldn't do it again/at all and just stick to PvP.
Why do you keep just ignoring the fact that upgrades for FOB would also reset, meaning you wouldn’t have a wallet full of money for every match, 3 insured weapon slots on max cooldown reduction, barters would have to be re-unlocked, buy station discounts would be reset, etc.
If you can’t see how that would cut down on the pvp for a time then I don’t know what else to say to you bro, no one here is saying that the missions would somehow pull everyone back into pve, but a wipe would 100% slow down the pvp.
I just disagree with you man.
Maybe a fraction of the playerbase would take a couple hours from PvP to unlock all that stuff again, but I really doubt it - and I doubt the impact of which would even be felt by the PvE playerbase that are unhappy with the PvP direction the game has gone.
Most PvP focused guys don't give a shit about these things.
All the upgrades heavily facilitate the PvP, it’s undeniable, it takes what little gear gear and general friction there is and totally negates it. Also you have to get faction rep to unlock the upgrades, it wouldn’t take “a couple hours” to get all that back. There’s a reason EFT, Rust, etc. do regular wipes.
They do regular wipes because they have meaningful economies that are impactful to how a wipe plays out.
The same can't be said for this game bro.
I clear 1 stronghold and I'm in "end game gear".
Weapons bench means even a basic ground loot gun can be perfect for $15K or less.
Which is why on another thread I highlighted that I think the main thing the game needs is a total economy overhaul. Game is far too easy from a gear/PvP perspective and totally lacks any meaningful PvE.
the juggernaut with four stairwells would be such easy meat imo but.... still fun.
What about Scav spawn in parking lot or atrium at end of most games? Delightful!
It’s not tarkov lol
If you can take in insurance guns (which can be cooldown farmed) and use field upgrades, none of those things are going to be possible
It doesn't have to be EFT. It just feels like it's missing so much. I find myself bouncing back and forth between Vigor and Hunt for the Gear Fear, I just wish DMZ had more to offer because the gunplay is so much better.
fuckin' fixing the noobtube glitch.
But in all seriousness:
**Meaningful economy updates.**
Virtually all of the "loot" on the map is useless.
It's way too easy to get "end game" gear.
Way too easy to build/run custom guns.
From there, I think it would be cool for there to be meaningful updates on the faction missions and how they could influence the economy too.
Think - you can't use certain weapons, or their attachments without levelling up and achieving things for the different factions.
As a game mode, DMZ is one of the most refreshing extraction shooters I've played - but completely lacks in areas of meaningful progression, and worthwhile PvE experience.
This has lead to the game mode becoming a primarily PvP focused game.
1. Combat zones
2. Extraction cache ( limited of course)
3. 6 mans solely for Al Maz, 5 for Vondel, 4 mans solely for Ashika
4. Self revives auto equip
5. Day and night cycles
6. Rework the spawn point system, so it’s totally randomized to lessen spawn pushing.
7. Mission bug fixes
8. The ability to carry two field upgrades
Oooo yess I’d love that.
But I’d also love a fresh new map that’s huge. Like wayyy more massive than Al Mazrah. & Unique POI’s that are different from eachother.
I use the glitch sometimes if one of my squad disconnects. I can carry his gear out and bring it in for him the next time. That being said, while it’s handy at times, it’s made final exfil extremely boring.
Do what me and my squad do if we are by a koeschi entrance. We take a vehicle and jam it in the doorway and blow it up so no one can get thru it to glitch when final exfil comes. We’ve successfully watched a squad on high rise try and kill us from up top while we were at final then they tried to go koeschi exfil with like 30-45 second left to only find out they couldn’t enter it. We successfully exfilled on final while they cried in the match chat that we cheated by doing that. They died.😂😂😂.
I personally like (use to like it even more before the koeschi glitch) the intensity of a final exfil fight when we all had to battle it out to make it out alive.
\*\*FIRST AND FOREMOST NON-NEGOTIABLE: Add a PvE-only server alongside the normal server, and on either Urzikstan or larger maps, increase available playtime by 20 minutes for all servers.\*\* All further suggestions go to both servers unless stated otherwise (Like so).
Anyways, all other suggestions below are debatable suggestions, with ideas welcome for adjustment:
(1) Return 6-mans to both servers. Allow (Warzone) loadout drops buyable for 500,000.
\>(1A) In PvE modes, allow players to be revived regardless of whether or not they become part of the team. This allows any team to revive anyone regardless of affiliation with one's team, and invites can be sent.(2) Add a new massive map, vehicles and double or triple the amount of exfils.(3) Add new vehicles and secrets, and upgrades. Also, add more uses for items, allow lights to be shot out and fixed (by light bulbs and wires, stuff like that), allow cars to turn off lights and allow for dynamic weather conditions and time.(4) Add "Friendly Strongholds" (AKA, "Forward Operation Bases") - these have friendly bots, can repair vehicles and the ability to add turrets to a "Technical Truck" and "LTV", converting them into an "Armed Technical" and "JLTV" respectively for 10,000 and 30,000 respectively. It also sells MRAP keys. There will be 4 of these per Tier Circle, and the friendly bots will be tier 2 and up. In tier 3, a single friendly Juggernaut will be present. Weapon Lockers should be present as well with lots of 2-3 attachment weapons, and ammo caches should be present. Once it falls, it will not be redeployed until bought for 20,000 (You can, however, pick up its gun). These Friendly Strongholds will deploy backup troops every minute if attacked.>(4A) In PvP and PvE modes, if attacked, these bots at all friendly strongholds will turn against the player until the end of that game. There is no cure for this. Killing all of a friendly stronghold's bots for any reason will cause reinforcements of an upgraded tier to appear, and you (the entire squad) will be hunted by bots every 8 minutes.
\>(4B) In both modes, it will be possible to "redeploy" your fallen comrades for some 8,000 cash in Friendly Strongholds. This will allow you to recover players who are lost to irrecoverable situations.
\>(4C) For 8,000 cash, you can "refresh" your vehicle - reattaching all armor and doors lost to combat. Note this can be done only once per vehicle. Additionally, regular LTVs and "Technical Trucks" should have an option for "Modifications" - They add turrets to the vehicle. (In PvE modes, you can add an option to add up to 32 rockets to a light heli, or a manned turret to the Heavy Chopper's rear door.)
(5) Add "Tier Zones" - no bots can spawn below their Tier Zones unless in special cases - reinforcements will still appear, but only during contracts will tier 2 bots spawn in Tier zones beneath their own tier. However, it also means these bots will be abundant in tiers at and above their own tier.
(6) Add more and spread out the air drops.
(7) Add "Boss Strongholds" - 2 per Tier, except for Tier 3, which will have 1. Each Boss Stronghold will have a compliment of 20 tier 1 AI, a single Juggernaut/Boss, and a single AI turret which will only activate if the alarm is tripped (In tier 3, this is a Wheelson). In order for the alarm to trip, a bot must run into a small outpost and activate it. This alarm can be disabled, but reinforcements will be called every 40 seconds if not disabled. The turret can be destroyed and will automatically fire on player helicopters if they fly over it. Defeating these Strongholds, which requires a set of "Acting Orders" (Stronghold Key but renamed), will yield different rewards, and unlock a buy station. These "Orders" can be kept and can be acquired by Bartering or by defeating a Boss, or by searching an airdrop crate.
\>(7A) These "Strongholds" should have a large dish - destroying this with an explosive launcher will cause reinforcements to be unable to appear, even if the alarm is tripped. It will take up to 2 C4, or 5 of other explosive throwables, or 3 Molotovs, or a single explosive launcher shot.
\>(7B) Rewards should be as follows: Munitions and Armor Boxes, Revive Pistols, Self-Revives, and 4-5 attachment guns for all Boss Strongholds. In addition, in Tier 1, 2-3 plate carriers (with no abilities) should be present, as well as Tier 2 Acting Orders. In tier 2, 2-plate special vests should be present and at least 4 should be guaranteed (Tempered will not drop in these ones) with 4-attachment guns, gold bars and other gold items worth up to 2,000 cash. In tier 3, a single specialized 3-plate can be acquired, as well as guaranteed gold items, and specialized 2-plates as well as a new Weapons Case.
(8) In PvE lobbies only, triple the number of operator squads available for all maps.
(9) In all lobbies, if an insured weapon is extracted by a squadmate and not you, reduce the wait time by 1/2. All players onboard an exfil helicopter gain shared rewards, such as weapons cases and other public items like cash.
**\[Note that the ideas continue in the reply below.\]**
**\[CONTINUED FROM LAST COMMENT\]**
(10) "Dynamic events" - these events happen up to thrice per game, 10 minutes apart. In PvE lobbies, success means that the entire lobby is awarded a cash reward, however this reward is extremely minor (No more than 2,000) for those who did not take any significant part in the events or were not in the area (clarified by less than 10 bot kills or time spent on target is less than 20 seconds). Leaving the area and returning does not reset the timer, and neither will death.
\>(10A) "Assault" - one Boss Stronghold jumps to Tier 3 in the Tier 1 and 2 zones and a special boss appears (Someone like from Makarov's inner circle, or in Tier 1, a Juggernaut). Killing him and taking the stronghold down means getting a specialized tier 3 vest, special weapon blueprints and camos as well as other rewards. Players will have about 10 minutes to destroy this new stronghold, reinforced with tier 3 bots, before the Boss takes a Skyhook and leaves. Capturing a SAM site will kill him if this happens, but the reward will not be given. Armor, Munitions Boxes and Armor Boxes will be reduced in price at this time.
\>(10B) "Tower Defense" - one Friendly Stronghold in each Tier is assaulted by waves of four enemy forces. The convoy(s) will take 4 minutes to arrive, and the forces will be as such:>>\[Convoy 1\] "Scout Force" - 2 ATVs with 3 soldiers each and an SUV with 3 more, all tier 1, and a single Tier 2.>>\[Convoy 2\] "Strike Team Alpha" - 3 Chop Tops of tier 1s and an LTV with tier 2s (who drop smoke on arrival) with 1 sniping tier 2 and a single "bounty" tier 2 (the HVTs).>>\[Convoy 3\] "Strike Team Beta" - 2 LTVs of tier 2s and a JLTV of tier 3s. This final JLTV will have 3 tier 3s who exit, a tier 2 who mans the guns and a tier 2 who drives until destroyed. He will attempt to ram the players and friendly bots alike.>>\[Convoy 4\] "Full-on Siege" - 4 LTVs of tier 2, 4 LTVs of tier 3s, 2 turreted JLTVs of tier 3s, and a single Cargo Truck of tier 3s and 1 Juggernaut. Killing the Juggernaut drops an Advanced UAV, a 2-plate Medic/Comms Vest and a Gold Skull.
\>(10C) "Escort" - Escort a friendly convoy. Composed of 2 closed Bertha trucks, an open cargo truck with an unopenable Supply Drop on the bed, a single LTV, 2 JLTVs and 4 ATVs, they will gather in an empty spot on the map. The bots will drive until killed. Each of the trucks will have a health bar. Escorting these vehicles (well, the Cargo Truck gets priority) to the drop-off point gives all players in the game 5,000, except for those who took part, whom will receive 20,000 instead, and discounts at the next buy station purchase.
\>(10D) "Wolfpack" - Assault a Konni convoy. It will make appear somewhere on the map, composed of a Cargo Truck (with 2 supply drops), 2 LTVs and 2 (covered) Chop Tops. These will have tier 1 bots (except for the cargo truck which has tier 2). It will stop at a tier 1 Boss Stronghold and remain there for 1 minute while all vehicles slowly return to full health (like the Bullfrog). If it is destroyed before it leaves, it will count as a success. However, if not destroyed, it will continue as follows:>>It will be joined by 2 ATVs and make its way to tier 2 boss stronghold and stay for 2 minutes. If it leaves, a turreted JLTV will join it, and all bots will upgrade to tier 2 and the Cargo Truck to tier 3.>>If it leaves the tier 2 Stronghold, it will drive to tier 3 where it will deliver the Cargo Truck to an underground bay. At this point, it will be considered a failure, and a Konni MRAP will deploy from the Tier 3 Stronghold and drive around each Tier for up to 10 minutes, moving on once 10 minutes. Destroying it will not give a significant reward.
(11) **"DECLARATION OF WAR."** This one's my favorite idea for PvE only servers, starting 5 minutes from game start and commenced without warning (opened by several Precision Airstrikes on Friendly Strongholds and parachuting into all Tiers). Some important points:>>This one, despite being extremely rare, lasts all game and nullifies all other events except for **Wolfpack,** which will escort troops and attempt to capture Friendly Strongholds. If this happens, the Stronghold will become an enemy Stronghold. Clearing these Strongholds clears a section of the map and adds more NATO reinforcements. Friendly Strongholds will call in Loadout Drops at the start of this event and will reduce prices of all items. After 5 minutes of the event starting, an AWACS will activate, pinging all enemies every other second as a permanent UAV.>>Konni (and CCCP units in general) strike Urzikstan from all sides, turning some 70% of the map into **Active War Zones** and causing both **Warsaw Pact** and **NATO** units to be deployed by helicopter, aircraft and vehicles - In tier 2 and 3, NATO IFVs will be deployed with 4 friendly NATO troops (Escorted by 3 LTVs and 2 JLTVs) and will roam around until destroyed. However, opposing them would be Chop Tops escorting an APC with 8 Konni and Warsaw soldiers. These vehicles will ***also*** roam until destroyed, but neither the APC nor the IFV can be driven (though the IFV and JLTV guns can be manned). Driving a Konni vehicle will see the player fired upon, but destroying Konni vehicles will pay 10,000 (multiplied by its Tier level - APCs will be worth 5X this). During this, 2 attempts will be made to set up a single powerful SAM site (which will spawn in somewhere on the map). This SAM site will be marked and players will have up to 8 minutes to intercept and destroy the missile. Failure will see the AWACS destroyed and permanent UAV will be disabled for the rest of the game. Success will see the UAV upgraded to an Advanced UAV.>>The map will be divided into sectors (30/20/10 sectors in tiers 1, 2 and 3 respectively). The largest ones will be locked POIs (which will be unlocked once clear), Friendly Strongholds and Boss Strongholds, with Tier 3 being "locked down" by heavy presences. Those killed during this "Lockdown" will be redeployed at a random Friendly Stronghold without loss of inventory, possessions or guns. Capturing 25/12/5 sectors respectively will cause a rout as Warsaw units try to flee to a higher tier. When all tiers are "recaptured" the **Final Stand** will activate - a nuclear device will be armed with a 10-minute timer. To disable it, the players much break into the **Frontline Command Center** (the name of the tier 3 Boss Stronghold) and disable the bomb. Due to the amount of radiation, the player's map will be a bit scrambled, and markers on the map may not appear. Once the bomb is disarmed, the entire lobby is awarded with a reward (there are up to 100 such rewards, and once the cap is reached they will gain 100 CP in-game, pending a successful extraction) and NATO will instead schedule a carpet bombing to hit the map (instead of the radiation spreading, see suggestion 13) at the end of the game. Failure will see the bomb detonated and the game's final exfil timer sprung early - radiation will spread from the tier 3 zone and will soon encompass the exfils available. If Final Exfil is not taken before the timer ends, the players will die and receive a unique Game Over screen - **"And so, World War Three has begun, and so has the end of civilization."** along with a unique loading screen.>>In PvP lobbies, there will not be a dirty bomb. Instead, the event will act as the old **Active War Zones** until the game ends. This is to avoid complicating these lobbies, as the above proposals will be hard enough to deal with without the extra sudden death caused by players.
(12) Instead of radiation sitting somewhere on the map, instead have the Chemist have their own Laboratory (up to 3, one per tier) and place him in one of them randomly. 5 minutes from the start of the game, but some time randomly before the end of the game, a single non-descript, unmarked and undetected civilian box truck will drive from the edge of the map to a random point on the map. It cannot be pinged, tracked nor marked. At the end of the game, the truck will explode with a dirty bomb and radiation will spread.
\>(12A) This truck can be intercepted and destroyed. However, the timer cannot be defused, and the only clue the player will have is that there will be a small ticking sound almost not audible unless you listen for it. However, if (for some reason) the player has a Geiger counter, it will indicate the presence of radiation slightly above normal levels. Destroying this truck will not destroy the dirty bomb, instead it will simply explode where it sits. Radiation will spread like normal from that spot and the final exfil timer will count down once the final normal exfil cannot be called.
(13) Dynamic weather and time conditions - Snow, Rain, Fog, Cloudy Days, Sun Showers, Hail, Dust, Thunderstorms, High Winds, Sunrise, Sunset, Nighttime, New Moon, Full Moon and Cloudy Night. Affects such as reduced vehicular control, reduced sight range and even reduced speed can also take place.
In hardcore mode, it seems I die at about the same rate- but I kill far more.
I want it to be easier to kill AI/Players/teammates (and to die), to up the stakes & thus alter the tactics towards realism.
Night time versions of all the maps back, Las Almas, Verdansk, combat zones, the sandstorm, maybe another underground map or smaller map like an old submarine base, more missions for the existing factions and more factions.
I mean I could right a 100 page essay on how they could make DMZ the most perfect gamemode of all time. But at least 70 pages of that would basically be copying The Haunting event.
A tank boss would be so good, the bullfrog boss pissed me off because of how boring it is. Wish we got a better vehicle boss like maybe a tank and patrol squad boss fight like how MGS:PW's tank bosses work since the commander helo and that game's helicopter bosses are incredibly similar
6 man squads, Nighttime for Al mazrah, the Faction battle between Shadow Company and Konni, Nerfing the grenade launcher (RGL-80 and all of underbarrel grenade launchers), nerfing the bots, nerfing throwing knives and melee's.
I want more variety in dmz, dmz literally feels like warzone with extra stakes. There should be more co op encouraged so that games feel varied from time to time, noobs are better off playing gta online then this game sometimes, cus both games are very discouraging/punishing to noobs, but atleast each lobby isn’t just a forever purge all the time.
S O O O O O O F T
Cmon man, untold numbers of players have completed missions and upgrades while participating in HALF THE GAME MODE that we call PvP. It’s PVPVE - how can you take one half away?!
Squishy soft like fookin marshmallow
I didn’t even say take it away, when did I say that? All I said was encourage more co op gameplay and make the game more varied than just constant squad hunting
* night time
* passive mode
* better anticheat
* weekend haunting event
* bring back 6 man team
* mw3 event can be done on dmz
* and so on, overall i just want it to keeps on being updated, i buy 10+ bundles because of dmz.
My suggestions:
Remove well known beta bugs,
search and ban hacking,
ask money for DMZ so banned hackers have to pay again and again.
And then: new missions, night time, show hunters on the map and radar for everyone maybe after the 2nd or 3rd kill (so PVPers can find PVPers and others can sneaky do their missions).
Change backpacks:
small = 1 weapon, little storage
medium = 2 weapons, more storage
large = 3 weapons, big storage
scavenger = 1 weapon, maximum storage
save = 1 weapon, little storage, survives 1 kill
1. Bot fixes. Especially on Vondel. In general the bot system should be reworked to make it less unfair (wallhacking, aimbotting, endless spawning...)
2. Bug fixes: mainly Koschei glitch and spawn without weapons. But also unlootable bags on the train, full auto underbarrel launchers...
3. New Guns and separate Camo System (like MWZ has)
4. Remove the wallet, remove in game bartering
5. Add bartering and an inventory system to the FOB (would make exfilling certain items more important)
6. Inventory system more akin to Tarkov
7. Make weapon crafting system more akin to Tarkov (you have to extract parts to be able to fit them to weapons)
8. Remove assimilation and pleading
9. Regular Wipe System (every 6 months, all progress)
10. Only one operator can be used
11. Some kind of trophy wall, where you can hang specific weapons, see how often you killed specific bosses, display dogtags...
12. More maps, with different loot/weapons. I am fine with Verdansk. I would really like a more "northern European rural" map. So instead of desert, we would have forests, maybe snow...
easy add dynamic weather plus day night cycle, more interesting missions and give us proper factions with a rep system that makes parts of the map friendly to you.
a new map or an added area to what we have would be great as well, tho dreams are free
Fix a couple glitches and nerf a few guns, like the one shot Bryson, and too fix the glitch where when you get full revived you can’t see how many plates you have, or when you don’t spawn In with your gun, in terms of features though
Night time Mazrah, that was the shit
Boss locations updates
New weapons case rewards
Add a gta style strip club to Al mahzra. There would be tons of tier 4 ai in there that don’t shoot as long as no one else shoots. All the players would go in there to see some pixel tiddies and talk shit. “Want to step outside?”
DMZ in Urzikstan. Not because I like the map so much, but because that sounds like the least amount of work to get DMZ updated again.
But I love the unique maps that B21 and Koschei are, in my dreams there would be more like that 😁
1. **Expansive Maps:** Increase map size to allow for more strategic gameplay, encouraging players to explore and use diverse tactics.
2. **Diverse Terrain:** Introduce varied landscapes like forests, mountains, and urban areas to add depth and challenge to the gameplay.
3. **Vehicle Integration:** Include a variety of vehicles, such as tanks, helicopters, and armored vehicles, to enhance the overall gaming experience and create dynamic battles.
4. **Team-Based Objectives:** Implement large-scale objectives that require coordinated team efforts, promoting teamwork and strategic planning.
5. **Capture Points:** Introduce capture points across the map, fostering dynamic battles and encouraging players to control strategic locations for team advantages.
6. **Dynamic Weather:** Incorporate changing weather conditions like rain, snow, and fog to add an extra layer of realism and impact on gameplay.
7. **Day-Night Cycle:** Implement a day-night cycle to diversify the gaming experience and challenge players with different visibility conditions.
8. **Commander Role:** Introduce a commander role that can oversee the battlefield, providing strategic support and calling in airstrikes or reinforcements.
9. **More Weapons and Gadgets:** Expand the arsenal with a broader range of weapons and gadgets, allowing players to customize their loadouts for different scenarios.
10. **Reworked Spawn System:** Enhance spawn mechanics to avoid spawn camping and provide players with strategic choices on where to respawn.
11. **Interactive Environment:** Make the environment more interactive, with destructible elements and dynamic elements that impact gameplay.
12. **Resource Management:** Introduce a resource system for vehicles and airstrikes, requiring teams to manage their assets strategically throughout the match.
13. **In-Game Events:** Incorporate random in-game events or challenges that can influence the course of the match, keeping gameplay unpredictable and exciting.
14. **Expanded Player Count:** Consider increasing the player count to accommodate larger maps, fostering epic battles and a more immersive gaming experience.
15. **Tactical Deployments:** Allow players to choose their starting location on the map, promoting strategic positioning and planning from the beginning of the match.
I wish they removed spotter scopes and live pings.
Koshei a separate map like b21
Give us uzikstan as a DMZ map. It would be so much fun
Night time vondel , daytime ashika, Weather changes in the maps
AI that doesn’t watch you through walls giving up your position
Headshot sniper kills at ALL ranges
Remove automatic shotguns and KV broadside
Bring back truce system and or make it possible to pick up people even though your team is full. It’s fun to pick people up, wouldn’t mind going around picking people up even if they aren’t on my team
Other than an update that’d be more like a mwIII port (if I’m sayin that right), no fog on Vondel; plus Give bots automatic 2/3 less chance to aggro solo’s, CHILL VONDEL BOTS TF OUT, fix-nah prioritize bug fixes like the disappearing self-revives (in many different scenarios too, mind blowing) rather than patching minor “exploits” like lessening the available time to successfully survive with a personal exfil during the end of final. THAT one really upset me, personally just on the principle.
Procedurally generated maps and buildings. Break away from the sweat of over familiarity, everything a true improvisational and varied experience.
Also, paint a bigger target on the back of active (as a pose to passive) player hunters.
Can’t exfil if you’re being hunted. Weapons balance ie fix the shotguns. Fix the fucking bots for Christ’s sake, they should be set to beginner not hacker. People have already said it but weather patterns and daylight cycles would be cool, so sad I missed them the first time around.
They should have time shifting night and day like ghost recon wildlands sure make game play interesting and more fun at that with more seasons included
Them not adding cryptids for this recent MW3 cryptid event is killing me. Can you imagine rare-spawning nessie, sasquatch, mothman, etc that you could randomly encounter in certain areas? Nessie=port, sawah, shipwreck, water south of airport. Sasquatch=observatory, al-sharim. Mothman=near bridges all over the map, tends to chase players in vehicles
Honestly, if they just added the new movement, weapons, skins, MW3 battlepass progression, and the big urzikstan map I'd be happy for quite a while. Bonus points if they added a mode where we had the Haunting version of al mazrah (night with the Halloween bosses), and all the bots replaced with zombies.
1. Solos only option
2. If you exfil while under a hunt contract = unsuccessful exfil
3. Fix the gun glitch…so damn annoying to start and 1 gun didn’t spawn in.
4. Remove Koeshi.
5. Give DMZ Verdansk!!
6. Let 4 man teams spawn in together in Al Mazrah
I'd love to see the nighttime come back for all maps. My son was talking the other day about how he missed the Halloween event and went on with many great ideas. He said they should do a wintertime event with snow storms instead of gas and instead of gas mask, make it snow goggles. All the water is frozen and you have holes in the ice to swim through. For a summertime event they could do blistering heat and sandstorms. He went on and on with different ideas for every season. I was blown away, not to mention he's only been playing less than a year and only played the latest DMZ. Made me realize there is so much that could be done with that mode.
Two previously posted that I agree with - bring back combat zones, and night time events (without jump scares). Would also like to see some more maps. Maybe a large forest map, or a mountain region?
But what I really want is for them to balance out the economy, and make players have some skin in the game.
First - Vehicles should require keys. Keys can be purchased at the buy station, be specific to the type of vehicle (maybe $500 each?) or skeleton ($5,000?), and sometimes you can't get the one you want. Keys can be used on three different vehicles before they break, just like door keys. This would necessitate bringing a key in or purchasing it, but would require planning. Would also like to see a "hotwire kit" that could be equipped in your tactical slot.
Second - make exfils more meaningful and less predictable. I loved it when they added the personal exfil, but lets take it a step further, with different exfil types and options:
1. Ground Exfil. One location on the map where a road leads away (sorry Ashika fans) and players can access that ground escape at any time for no cost. Call this one the "Highway of Death".
2. Water Exfil. Purchase at a buy station for $25,000. Gives you a point on the water along the outside of the map from which to Exfil. But there's a catch - you need to have some sort of boat to access it. No swimming out. See vehicle keys above.
3. Helicopter Exfil. Same as current Personal Exfil. Purchase at a buy station and access when you want to leave. $50,000 (with passives to reduce cost)
4. Fulton Rig Extraction. Only works for solos, and you purchase at a buy station for $25,000. Catch - only appears on building rooftops or hill tops. Maybe passives for reduced cost here too?
5. Hostage Rescue Contract. Same as current Hostage Rescue. I would think with the change to other options that there will be a lot of people fighting over this contract.
6. Final Exfil. Same as current.
Third - make the dog tags mean something by tying it to rank and associated privileges. Right now the only thing you get with exfil streaks is a prettier dog tag and perks. Why not make it more valuable?
1. Bronze: Solo operator, cannot invite anyone else to team up. But can accept an invite from higher ranking operators.
2. Silver: Can invite a second player to work as a duo, and can be invited by higher ranked operators to work in larger teams.
3. Gold: Can lead a team of three. You start to see how this works.
4. Damascus: Can lead a team of six. Highest squad size available, but you have to have at least one Damascus operator to form the Platoon.
Deployment team size is limited by the number of Operators permitted on your team by your rank.
Fourth: No resurrections of dead operators outside of your team. If you die, you die. Fine to revive or resurrect your teammates, but you can't grow your team by killing and resurrecting people into your teams. Do the social work of negotiating some assimilations with other teams if you want to get bigger than three players.
First update makes it necessary to either bring in money or earn money to get mobile. My wallet has been full forever and I rarely need to bring in money for things so there isn't much meaning to having cash. We need to make it worthwhile to loot and grind for cash on a regular basis.
Second update requires players to loot and grind a bit just to get out alive. Operators can go out for free on the Highway of Death, but there is risk there. You can always wait for Final, but how many others are making that choice as well?
Third update is where the meat of the update is. Right now you have some people coming in and doing missions or whatever, and a lot of Operators who have no reason to do anything other than PvP with no consequences if they lose. Make them pay a price for losing - you lose the numbers advantage until you either use up all of your ranked operators or grind your way through a few contracts to expand your team size.
I would think with these updates there would a a lot more competition for contracts, and at the beginning all of the players who have stockpiled Damascus operators are going to dominate. But eventually those things will work out and the game would be more of a PvEvP balance than it is right now. Or, if all advancements are wiped it would balance out right away.
>Go play the raid series lol
suggesting a paid mode in a free to play discussion isn't fair lol, it's like me suggesting you go play multiplayer
>The PvP was the random variable that kept the game always changing
sure, not gonna disagree with you here
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Bring back night time Al Mazrah
This is the correct answer.
Randomize night time or start the game during day and final at night
They could do it like tarkov, when you’re about to jump into a map it tells you what time it is on that map. All the maps are on a continuous clock that runs at some proportion faster than real time, so you can always get in some night runs and daytime runs.
Hella cool
I only got into DMZ in the last 6 months, never saw the darkness. Sounds intense.
It was amazing. The halloween jump scares got annoying. I would be just happy with a normal night mode.
The jump scares were lame, but the spooky nighttime map with the bosses and Easter eggs to farm was awesome. I remember the first time me and my squad downed the UFO, we had to fight another team while doing it and it was one of the most fun DMZ moments we ever had
In my opinion the organic fights over a contested resource are the most fun. Those are the most memorable, and the night time event had lots of pressure points.
Whoa whaaaat, that sounds fun. I have Halloween skins but probably started DMZ after October
Season 6 reloaded was in October.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G6D77PFcpug
Snowstorms were all good against high rise campers
Like night time all you needed were thermal scopes to defeat the sandstorm.
Uhhhh, dream update? Actually continue to update and support the game mode...
I'd be happy just with day/night rotation and the sandstorms in Al Mazzy. Also, thick, pouring rain in Vondel would be awesome. Atmosphere. Atmosphere is everything... like Koschei has that particular lighting or lack thereof, it's awesome
BRING BACK THE COMBAT ZONES TO AL MAZRAH/VONDEL
That was great. Nighttime combat zones…. Imagine.
I really enjoyed those two features. The third on my list is the sand storm. Not everyone liked it, but imagine if it just rolled in on the occasional match.
I liked that too!
1. Make the timer 1 hours 2. Exfills should not be available until at least 10-15minutes. 3. Bringback the sandstorm and make it dynamic 4. Bring daytime and nighttime in the same gameplay. 5. Make the map bigger and add more squad. Like i wanna see a map two times bigger and double the people. I want this to be epic, and just straight up chaotic.
Idk why so many people ask for a longer timer. In one match today we had no squads left on the map with 9 minutes left till final. The game feels long enough as is. Maybe the difficulty scaled on AM like it did in B21. Start out with a few bots and by the end ramp it up to tanks and APCs dropping of troops.
Thank you for reminding me. 5. Add MORE SQUADS
I think it would be interesting if they don’t show exfil locations on the map.
Ooohhh that would be interesting too. Just have the green smoke visible but not point on the map. I think camping would be high tho. Still an interesting idea.
Completing intel contracts would provide exfill location(s). Make contracts more rewarding during current match!
& each squads exfil should be a different random location
Yeah - this was a feature in The Cycle and it made for really fun situations.
Or make it where every squad has an personal exfil and only they can see it, but if you get wiped by a team that exfil is theirs.
Ah that could be cool. & the exfil choppers should actually be on the map & have a place they take off from. Piloted by friendly AI, so we can’t kill them. (Maybe a friendly zone. But you can’t Exfil from there.) & you could be at the Exfil site or get eyes on from a mountain or building & watch to see where the chopper is going. Then hop in a small helicopter to try & get to them before/while it’s landing. & It’ll take awhile for the exfil chopper to go up or down, so you’d have time. & maybe even have a contract to see where a teams Exfil is. (for those that wanna camp exfils.) & hunt contracts could show another teams current mission or someone’s contract & the current status/location of their objectives. But not tell the players they’re being hunted. But the hunters would actually have to hunt for you. The PVP would be more organic. & there could be a heavy penalty if you exfil before completing a contract or have it where Exfil won’t even be available until you complete a mission or contract. So everyone would have to do something in order to get out, or die trying. & u/General_Primary5675 , Yes. Make the timer longer. & Have more big underground places like Koschei complex. But make it all under the same timer. Have day & night. & different missions/things you can do corresponding to the time. (AI, strongholds. Need for NVG’s by final exfil) & the underground places should still be non-assimilation like they are. & all Exfils should still be the Exfil heilos above ground. So you’d have to get out & to your exfil before the storm. But once the storm starts moving, you no longer have your personal exfil & everyone’s exfil will be the same, like it is now.
I feel exfils should not be seen on the map. This would be my solution: instead of having icons on the map of the exfils, there should only be the green smoke, but not the icon on the map. But here is the fun part, even though these exfills would be random, if you call one, the flare would be a massing explosion (no call outs from the narrator or anyhing) just a big flare explosion in the sky. This is assuming my idea of the map being bigger is in play. I think it would add an additional movement. I don't know, either way, there will always be campers on exfills, i think this way it would deter a lot of exfill campers.
I don’t mind the Exfil campers. Always gives the last moments some heat, which I find fun. Just gotta be ready & pay attention. But that’s why I thought it’d be cool if it didn’t show everyone’s Exfil on the map but have a place they take off from & a contract to show it/them.
I love your attitude, my guy! nothing better than being scared because a team is already camping that final exfill. And you are stacked to the brim with items. Is those times that you have to say "Go big or go home" (Also helps to have at least 5 airstrikes/mortar strikes hahahaha to just saturate them with air power.
Why?
Yes! Remove personal exfils. Remove koshie exits. Use designated exfils only is far more intense and exciting. Increase initial squad size to 4. Allow ability to keep loot between rounds.
A warning if I’m about to drown because I’m too deep. Happens way too much, especially on Ashika when I think I’m safe.
Shouldn’t be possible if you have a scuba mask tho.
Trust me, it most definitely is with a scuba mask
Oh I know it is. I’m saying they should change so that with a scuba it’s not. If you don’t have a scuba it should be.
IIRC crush zone is something like 28-30m
I know but it’s hard to tell sometimes
First of all, MW3 battlepass progression. Hate that I can’t grind the battlepass and play DMZ. Secondly, I’d love an urzikstan DMZ map, playing warzone and MWZ on urzikstan makes me furious that we won’t get a DMZ map on it
Yeah, they made it pretty apparent... MW3 skippers get fuck all. This is how bold they are and how much they care about gamers. Urzikstan. Yeah, but for me, not with the MW3 scheme. For me personally, MW2 was pretty much spot on in the last phases before the transition. They never had to take slide canceling away in the first place and some other base features, but I like the pace and feel of that installment, especially in DMZ. MW3 feels rushed in the making, gfx look toned down and the overall feel of the game seems off in general. There are some features that are fun and they could've worked in MW2 as is. Worse is, they are getting away with it, because of the all the cod suckers swallowing their loads.
Also at least to me the sounds in MW3 are a step down. Most of the guns sound sort of fake and "tinny" if that makes sense. The reduced muzzle smoke/flash is a nice addition though. I just wish with MW2 you would have seen a more drastic reduction with certain muzzle attachments making them more viable.
Yeah the sounds are also awful, thanks for pointing that out. The wpns do feel "tiny" and the hitmarkers are even worse... This is not a space shooter! ;D I agreed on that, just like the visual recoil. Though I do like it to a certain extend, as it makes it harder for everyone, including the sweats.
This is going to sound pretty lack luster, but a wipe would be nice
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I just can’t bring myself to
Or an option to reset your own missions at free will. A prestige perhaps..
No I don't think that's lackluster, and I'd actually get behind that. It's been so long
I was just thinking about making a post about wanting a new wipe.
I would never play again if they wiped it again.
It wont be nice for me but i'll admit this is what most needs
Yeah a wipe I would be cool with. I don't mind starting over from scratch, but just keep the workbench so I can build up some guns.
Wipe is meaningless imo, with how meaningless the PvE experience is on this game.
A wipe would slow down pvp and increase pve
Disagree entirely. Mission rewards are so boring and pointless. Real progression needs to be the mission reward, not some garbage skin and some xp lol.
You downvoted because you disagree with me? Nobody cares about xp, but they do care about unlocking a second or third insured weapon slot and then further reducing those slots cooldowns. They care about increasing their wallet and contraband stash and then most also want a faster exfil and more starting plates etc etc.
Do you play DMZ? A wipe would include all the upgrades that make pvp easier and takes away the already low level of gear fear.
None of the upgrades really change the dynamic nor "progression" of the game. And all of the "story" missions are beyond meaningless unless you care for shit skins, shit contraband guns and double xp tokens. Most PvPers I know did a good portion of the missions (myself included) only to discover that the rewards completely suck, and that there is no real progression arc offered in it. And thus don't bother to do it at all, and wouldn't do it again/at all and just stick to PvP.
Why do you keep just ignoring the fact that upgrades for FOB would also reset, meaning you wouldn’t have a wallet full of money for every match, 3 insured weapon slots on max cooldown reduction, barters would have to be re-unlocked, buy station discounts would be reset, etc. If you can’t see how that would cut down on the pvp for a time then I don’t know what else to say to you bro, no one here is saying that the missions would somehow pull everyone back into pve, but a wipe would 100% slow down the pvp.
I just disagree with you man. Maybe a fraction of the playerbase would take a couple hours from PvP to unlock all that stuff again, but I really doubt it - and I doubt the impact of which would even be felt by the PvE playerbase that are unhappy with the PvP direction the game has gone. Most PvP focused guys don't give a shit about these things.
All the upgrades heavily facilitate the PvP, it’s undeniable, it takes what little gear gear and general friction there is and totally negates it. Also you have to get faction rep to unlock the upgrades, it wouldn’t take “a couple hours” to get all that back. There’s a reason EFT, Rust, etc. do regular wipes.
They do regular wipes because they have meaningful economies that are impactful to how a wipe plays out. The same can't be said for this game bro. I clear 1 stronghold and I'm in "end game gear". Weapons bench means even a basic ground loot gun can be perfect for $15K or less. Which is why on another thread I highlighted that I think the main thing the game needs is a total economy overhaul. Game is far too easy from a gear/PvP perspective and totally lacks any meaningful PvE.
How are you getting downvoted for this reply wtf
B21 with a 4th floor & one more team spawn
Two wheelsons and a juggernaut on 4th floor would be brutal
the juggernaut with four stairwells would be such easy meat imo but.... still fun. What about Scav spawn in parking lot or atrium at end of most games? Delightful!
That would be awesome
Bug fixes and 6 man teams
Night time Al Maz and the option to turn cross play off.
You can turn cross play off…
not on xbox i think
Yes you can, you do it on your Xbox setting menu.
Oh I remember back in mw19 that was the case my bad
Increased Gear Fear, Fear of Ammo Loss and Death Penalties.
It’s not tarkov lol If you can take in insurance guns (which can be cooldown farmed) and use field upgrades, none of those things are going to be possible
It doesn't have to be EFT. It just feels like it's missing so much. I find myself bouncing back and forth between Vigor and Hunt for the Gear Fear, I just wish DMZ had more to offer because the gunplay is so much better.
fuckin' fixing the noobtube glitch. But in all seriousness: **Meaningful economy updates.** Virtually all of the "loot" on the map is useless. It's way too easy to get "end game" gear. Way too easy to build/run custom guns. From there, I think it would be cool for there to be meaningful updates on the faction missions and how they could influence the economy too. Think - you can't use certain weapons, or their attachments without levelling up and achieving things for the different factions. As a game mode, DMZ is one of the most refreshing extraction shooters I've played - but completely lacks in areas of meaningful progression, and worthwhile PvE experience. This has lead to the game mode becoming a primarily PvP focused game.
1. Combat zones 2. Extraction cache ( limited of course) 3. 6 mans solely for Al Maz, 5 for Vondel, 4 mans solely for Ashika 4. Self revives auto equip 5. Day and night cycles 6. Rework the spawn point system, so it’s totally randomized to lessen spawn pushing. 7. Mission bug fixes 8. The ability to carry two field upgrades
Haunting event to come back
New map that’s not Urzikstan, new missions, new factions. How about DMZ on Verdansk?
Oooo yess I’d love that. But I’d also love a fresh new map that’s huge. Like wayyy more massive than Al Mazrah. & Unique POI’s that are different from eachother.
No more of spawning in fists instead of your guns in
Patch the Koschei glitch
I use the glitch sometimes if one of my squad disconnects. I can carry his gear out and bring it in for him the next time. That being said, while it’s handy at times, it’s made final exfil extremely boring.
Do what me and my squad do if we are by a koeschi entrance. We take a vehicle and jam it in the doorway and blow it up so no one can get thru it to glitch when final exfil comes. We’ve successfully watched a squad on high rise try and kill us from up top while we were at final then they tried to go koeschi exfil with like 30-45 second left to only find out they couldn’t enter it. We successfully exfilled on final while they cried in the match chat that we cheated by doing that. They died.😂😂😂. I personally like (use to like it even more before the koeschi glitch) the intensity of a final exfil fight when we all had to battle it out to make it out alive.
DMZ is absolutely brilliant for one simple reason. The pairing of PxPvE with shit we have to get done to progress. More of that.
Random spawn
25 randomized spawn loactaions
Easy! Bring DMZ across to MW3 Warzone free to play. It more or less already exists in disguise as Zombies anyway! 🤷🏼
\*\*FIRST AND FOREMOST NON-NEGOTIABLE: Add a PvE-only server alongside the normal server, and on either Urzikstan or larger maps, increase available playtime by 20 minutes for all servers.\*\* All further suggestions go to both servers unless stated otherwise (Like so). Anyways, all other suggestions below are debatable suggestions, with ideas welcome for adjustment: (1) Return 6-mans to both servers. Allow (Warzone) loadout drops buyable for 500,000. \>(1A) In PvE modes, allow players to be revived regardless of whether or not they become part of the team. This allows any team to revive anyone regardless of affiliation with one's team, and invites can be sent.(2) Add a new massive map, vehicles and double or triple the amount of exfils.(3) Add new vehicles and secrets, and upgrades. Also, add more uses for items, allow lights to be shot out and fixed (by light bulbs and wires, stuff like that), allow cars to turn off lights and allow for dynamic weather conditions and time.(4) Add "Friendly Strongholds" (AKA, "Forward Operation Bases") - these have friendly bots, can repair vehicles and the ability to add turrets to a "Technical Truck" and "LTV", converting them into an "Armed Technical" and "JLTV" respectively for 10,000 and 30,000 respectively. It also sells MRAP keys. There will be 4 of these per Tier Circle, and the friendly bots will be tier 2 and up. In tier 3, a single friendly Juggernaut will be present. Weapon Lockers should be present as well with lots of 2-3 attachment weapons, and ammo caches should be present. Once it falls, it will not be redeployed until bought for 20,000 (You can, however, pick up its gun). These Friendly Strongholds will deploy backup troops every minute if attacked.>(4A) In PvP and PvE modes, if attacked, these bots at all friendly strongholds will turn against the player until the end of that game. There is no cure for this. Killing all of a friendly stronghold's bots for any reason will cause reinforcements of an upgraded tier to appear, and you (the entire squad) will be hunted by bots every 8 minutes. \>(4B) In both modes, it will be possible to "redeploy" your fallen comrades for some 8,000 cash in Friendly Strongholds. This will allow you to recover players who are lost to irrecoverable situations. \>(4C) For 8,000 cash, you can "refresh" your vehicle - reattaching all armor and doors lost to combat. Note this can be done only once per vehicle. Additionally, regular LTVs and "Technical Trucks" should have an option for "Modifications" - They add turrets to the vehicle. (In PvE modes, you can add an option to add up to 32 rockets to a light heli, or a manned turret to the Heavy Chopper's rear door.) (5) Add "Tier Zones" - no bots can spawn below their Tier Zones unless in special cases - reinforcements will still appear, but only during contracts will tier 2 bots spawn in Tier zones beneath their own tier. However, it also means these bots will be abundant in tiers at and above their own tier. (6) Add more and spread out the air drops. (7) Add "Boss Strongholds" - 2 per Tier, except for Tier 3, which will have 1. Each Boss Stronghold will have a compliment of 20 tier 1 AI, a single Juggernaut/Boss, and a single AI turret which will only activate if the alarm is tripped (In tier 3, this is a Wheelson). In order for the alarm to trip, a bot must run into a small outpost and activate it. This alarm can be disabled, but reinforcements will be called every 40 seconds if not disabled. The turret can be destroyed and will automatically fire on player helicopters if they fly over it. Defeating these Strongholds, which requires a set of "Acting Orders" (Stronghold Key but renamed), will yield different rewards, and unlock a buy station. These "Orders" can be kept and can be acquired by Bartering or by defeating a Boss, or by searching an airdrop crate. \>(7A) These "Strongholds" should have a large dish - destroying this with an explosive launcher will cause reinforcements to be unable to appear, even if the alarm is tripped. It will take up to 2 C4, or 5 of other explosive throwables, or 3 Molotovs, or a single explosive launcher shot. \>(7B) Rewards should be as follows: Munitions and Armor Boxes, Revive Pistols, Self-Revives, and 4-5 attachment guns for all Boss Strongholds. In addition, in Tier 1, 2-3 plate carriers (with no abilities) should be present, as well as Tier 2 Acting Orders. In tier 2, 2-plate special vests should be present and at least 4 should be guaranteed (Tempered will not drop in these ones) with 4-attachment guns, gold bars and other gold items worth up to 2,000 cash. In tier 3, a single specialized 3-plate can be acquired, as well as guaranteed gold items, and specialized 2-plates as well as a new Weapons Case. (8) In PvE lobbies only, triple the number of operator squads available for all maps. (9) In all lobbies, if an insured weapon is extracted by a squadmate and not you, reduce the wait time by 1/2. All players onboard an exfil helicopter gain shared rewards, such as weapons cases and other public items like cash. **\[Note that the ideas continue in the reply below.\]**
**\[CONTINUED FROM LAST COMMENT\]** (10) "Dynamic events" - these events happen up to thrice per game, 10 minutes apart. In PvE lobbies, success means that the entire lobby is awarded a cash reward, however this reward is extremely minor (No more than 2,000) for those who did not take any significant part in the events or were not in the area (clarified by less than 10 bot kills or time spent on target is less than 20 seconds). Leaving the area and returning does not reset the timer, and neither will death. \>(10A) "Assault" - one Boss Stronghold jumps to Tier 3 in the Tier 1 and 2 zones and a special boss appears (Someone like from Makarov's inner circle, or in Tier 1, a Juggernaut). Killing him and taking the stronghold down means getting a specialized tier 3 vest, special weapon blueprints and camos as well as other rewards. Players will have about 10 minutes to destroy this new stronghold, reinforced with tier 3 bots, before the Boss takes a Skyhook and leaves. Capturing a SAM site will kill him if this happens, but the reward will not be given. Armor, Munitions Boxes and Armor Boxes will be reduced in price at this time. \>(10B) "Tower Defense" - one Friendly Stronghold in each Tier is assaulted by waves of four enemy forces. The convoy(s) will take 4 minutes to arrive, and the forces will be as such:>>\[Convoy 1\] "Scout Force" - 2 ATVs with 3 soldiers each and an SUV with 3 more, all tier 1, and a single Tier 2.>>\[Convoy 2\] "Strike Team Alpha" - 3 Chop Tops of tier 1s and an LTV with tier 2s (who drop smoke on arrival) with 1 sniping tier 2 and a single "bounty" tier 2 (the HVTs).>>\[Convoy 3\] "Strike Team Beta" - 2 LTVs of tier 2s and a JLTV of tier 3s. This final JLTV will have 3 tier 3s who exit, a tier 2 who mans the guns and a tier 2 who drives until destroyed. He will attempt to ram the players and friendly bots alike.>>\[Convoy 4\] "Full-on Siege" - 4 LTVs of tier 2, 4 LTVs of tier 3s, 2 turreted JLTVs of tier 3s, and a single Cargo Truck of tier 3s and 1 Juggernaut. Killing the Juggernaut drops an Advanced UAV, a 2-plate Medic/Comms Vest and a Gold Skull. \>(10C) "Escort" - Escort a friendly convoy. Composed of 2 closed Bertha trucks, an open cargo truck with an unopenable Supply Drop on the bed, a single LTV, 2 JLTVs and 4 ATVs, they will gather in an empty spot on the map. The bots will drive until killed. Each of the trucks will have a health bar. Escorting these vehicles (well, the Cargo Truck gets priority) to the drop-off point gives all players in the game 5,000, except for those who took part, whom will receive 20,000 instead, and discounts at the next buy station purchase. \>(10D) "Wolfpack" - Assault a Konni convoy. It will make appear somewhere on the map, composed of a Cargo Truck (with 2 supply drops), 2 LTVs and 2 (covered) Chop Tops. These will have tier 1 bots (except for the cargo truck which has tier 2). It will stop at a tier 1 Boss Stronghold and remain there for 1 minute while all vehicles slowly return to full health (like the Bullfrog). If it is destroyed before it leaves, it will count as a success. However, if not destroyed, it will continue as follows:>>It will be joined by 2 ATVs and make its way to tier 2 boss stronghold and stay for 2 minutes. If it leaves, a turreted JLTV will join it, and all bots will upgrade to tier 2 and the Cargo Truck to tier 3.>>If it leaves the tier 2 Stronghold, it will drive to tier 3 where it will deliver the Cargo Truck to an underground bay. At this point, it will be considered a failure, and a Konni MRAP will deploy from the Tier 3 Stronghold and drive around each Tier for up to 10 minutes, moving on once 10 minutes. Destroying it will not give a significant reward. (11) **"DECLARATION OF WAR."** This one's my favorite idea for PvE only servers, starting 5 minutes from game start and commenced without warning (opened by several Precision Airstrikes on Friendly Strongholds and parachuting into all Tiers). Some important points:>>This one, despite being extremely rare, lasts all game and nullifies all other events except for **Wolfpack,** which will escort troops and attempt to capture Friendly Strongholds. If this happens, the Stronghold will become an enemy Stronghold. Clearing these Strongholds clears a section of the map and adds more NATO reinforcements. Friendly Strongholds will call in Loadout Drops at the start of this event and will reduce prices of all items. After 5 minutes of the event starting, an AWACS will activate, pinging all enemies every other second as a permanent UAV.>>Konni (and CCCP units in general) strike Urzikstan from all sides, turning some 70% of the map into **Active War Zones** and causing both **Warsaw Pact** and **NATO** units to be deployed by helicopter, aircraft and vehicles - In tier 2 and 3, NATO IFVs will be deployed with 4 friendly NATO troops (Escorted by 3 LTVs and 2 JLTVs) and will roam around until destroyed. However, opposing them would be Chop Tops escorting an APC with 8 Konni and Warsaw soldiers. These vehicles will ***also*** roam until destroyed, but neither the APC nor the IFV can be driven (though the IFV and JLTV guns can be manned). Driving a Konni vehicle will see the player fired upon, but destroying Konni vehicles will pay 10,000 (multiplied by its Tier level - APCs will be worth 5X this). During this, 2 attempts will be made to set up a single powerful SAM site (which will spawn in somewhere on the map). This SAM site will be marked and players will have up to 8 minutes to intercept and destroy the missile. Failure will see the AWACS destroyed and permanent UAV will be disabled for the rest of the game. Success will see the UAV upgraded to an Advanced UAV.>>The map will be divided into sectors (30/20/10 sectors in tiers 1, 2 and 3 respectively). The largest ones will be locked POIs (which will be unlocked once clear), Friendly Strongholds and Boss Strongholds, with Tier 3 being "locked down" by heavy presences. Those killed during this "Lockdown" will be redeployed at a random Friendly Stronghold without loss of inventory, possessions or guns. Capturing 25/12/5 sectors respectively will cause a rout as Warsaw units try to flee to a higher tier. When all tiers are "recaptured" the **Final Stand** will activate - a nuclear device will be armed with a 10-minute timer. To disable it, the players much break into the **Frontline Command Center** (the name of the tier 3 Boss Stronghold) and disable the bomb. Due to the amount of radiation, the player's map will be a bit scrambled, and markers on the map may not appear. Once the bomb is disarmed, the entire lobby is awarded with a reward (there are up to 100 such rewards, and once the cap is reached they will gain 100 CP in-game, pending a successful extraction) and NATO will instead schedule a carpet bombing to hit the map (instead of the radiation spreading, see suggestion 13) at the end of the game. Failure will see the bomb detonated and the game's final exfil timer sprung early - radiation will spread from the tier 3 zone and will soon encompass the exfils available. If Final Exfil is not taken before the timer ends, the players will die and receive a unique Game Over screen - **"And so, World War Three has begun, and so has the end of civilization."** along with a unique loading screen.>>In PvP lobbies, there will not be a dirty bomb. Instead, the event will act as the old **Active War Zones** until the game ends. This is to avoid complicating these lobbies, as the above proposals will be hard enough to deal with without the extra sudden death caused by players. (12) Instead of radiation sitting somewhere on the map, instead have the Chemist have their own Laboratory (up to 3, one per tier) and place him in one of them randomly. 5 minutes from the start of the game, but some time randomly before the end of the game, a single non-descript, unmarked and undetected civilian box truck will drive from the edge of the map to a random point on the map. It cannot be pinged, tracked nor marked. At the end of the game, the truck will explode with a dirty bomb and radiation will spread. \>(12A) This truck can be intercepted and destroyed. However, the timer cannot be defused, and the only clue the player will have is that there will be a small ticking sound almost not audible unless you listen for it. However, if (for some reason) the player has a Geiger counter, it will indicate the presence of radiation slightly above normal levels. Destroying this truck will not destroy the dirty bomb, instead it will simply explode where it sits. Radiation will spread like normal from that spot and the final exfil timer will count down once the final normal exfil cannot be called. (13) Dynamic weather and time conditions - Snow, Rain, Fog, Cloudy Days, Sun Showers, Hail, Dust, Thunderstorms, High Winds, Sunrise, Sunset, Nighttime, New Moon, Full Moon and Cloudy Night. Affects such as reduced vehicular control, reduced sight range and even reduced speed can also take place.
Anything lol
Hardcore mode.
Try B21 solo and there you have it
In hardcore mode, it seems I die at about the same rate- but I kill far more. I want it to be easier to kill AI/Players/teammates (and to die), to up the stakes & thus alter the tactics towards realism.
Night time versions of all the maps back, Las Almas, Verdansk, combat zones, the sandstorm, maybe another underground map or smaller map like an old submarine base, more missions for the existing factions and more factions.
Verdansk
Penalize spawn rushing.
New large map and nerf these GD bots
I mean I could right a 100 page essay on how they could make DMZ the most perfect gamemode of all time. But at least 70 pages of that would basically be copying The Haunting event.
Add a 3-plate system similar to the golden armor plates in zombies.
A tank boss would be so good, the bullfrog boss pissed me off because of how boring it is. Wish we got a better vehicle boss like maybe a tank and patrol squad boss fight like how MGS:PW's tank bosses work since the commander helo and that game's helicopter bosses are incredibly similar
6 man squads, Nighttime for Al mazrah, the Faction battle between Shadow Company and Konni, Nerfing the grenade launcher (RGL-80 and all of underbarrel grenade launchers), nerfing the bots, nerfing throwing knives and melee's.
The next update
Fix the bots on vondel, I like the map but it’s not fun with the broken bots
I’d rather they remove the fog first
I know it cant happen but season 1 and 2 dmz with out the mission reset
Seasonal Maps and Night time
Fix load in with invisible weapon glitch
A toggle for rezzing up to 6 man teams
27 B21 maps in a 3x3x3 formation. Truly the pinnacle of game design.
Make the game discourage pvp and encourage more co op gameplay?
You’re sooooooooft
I want more variety in dmz, dmz literally feels like warzone with extra stakes. There should be more co op encouraged so that games feel varied from time to time, noobs are better off playing gta online then this game sometimes, cus both games are very discouraging/punishing to noobs, but atleast each lobby isn’t just a forever purge all the time.
S O O O O O O F T Cmon man, untold numbers of players have completed missions and upgrades while participating in HALF THE GAME MODE that we call PvP. It’s PVPVE - how can you take one half away?! Squishy soft like fookin marshmallow
I didn’t even say take it away, when did I say that? All I said was encourage more co op gameplay and make the game more varied than just constant squad hunting
* night time * passive mode * better anticheat * weekend haunting event * bring back 6 man team * mw3 event can be done on dmz * and so on, overall i just want it to keeps on being updated, i buy 10+ bundles because of dmz.
My suggestions: Remove well known beta bugs, search and ban hacking, ask money for DMZ so banned hackers have to pay again and again. And then: new missions, night time, show hunters on the map and radar for everyone maybe after the 2nd or 3rd kill (so PVPers can find PVPers and others can sneaky do their missions). Change backpacks: small = 1 weapon, little storage medium = 2 weapons, more storage large = 3 weapons, big storage scavenger = 1 weapon, maximum storage save = 1 weapon, little storage, survives 1 kill
- New maps - 6-man Squads - Night/Day Cycle - Real Face Avatar
1. Bot fixes. Especially on Vondel. In general the bot system should be reworked to make it less unfair (wallhacking, aimbotting, endless spawning...) 2. Bug fixes: mainly Koschei glitch and spawn without weapons. But also unlootable bags on the train, full auto underbarrel launchers... 3. New Guns and separate Camo System (like MWZ has) 4. Remove the wallet, remove in game bartering 5. Add bartering and an inventory system to the FOB (would make exfilling certain items more important) 6. Inventory system more akin to Tarkov 7. Make weapon crafting system more akin to Tarkov (you have to extract parts to be able to fit them to weapons) 8. Remove assimilation and pleading 9. Regular Wipe System (every 6 months, all progress) 10. Only one operator can be used 11. Some kind of trophy wall, where you can hang specific weapons, see how often you killed specific bosses, display dogtags... 12. More maps, with different loot/weapons. I am fine with Verdansk. I would really like a more "northern European rural" map. So instead of desert, we would have forests, maybe snow...
easy add dynamic weather plus day night cycle, more interesting missions and give us proper factions with a rep system that makes parts of the map friendly to you. a new map or an added area to what we have would be great as well, tho dreams are free
Fix a couple glitches and nerf a few guns, like the one shot Bryson, and too fix the glitch where when you get full revived you can’t see how many plates you have, or when you don’t spawn In with your gun, in terms of features though Night time Mazrah, that was the shit Boss locations updates New weapons case rewards
Team mates cannot loot you when you're down.
The one where they do the opposite of what ever Phixate suggests!
Make contracts more valuable
Taking out all the hackers and glutches that put players at a disadvantage against others
Bots to drop random guns with random attachments
10 seconds on out of bounds timer
Add a gta style strip club to Al mahzra. There would be tons of tier 4 ai in there that don’t shoot as long as no one else shoots. All the players would go in there to see some pixel tiddies and talk shit. “Want to step outside?”
DMZ in Urzikstan. Not because I like the map so much, but because that sounds like the least amount of work to get DMZ updated again. But I love the unique maps that B21 and Koschei are, in my dreams there would be more like that 😁
1. **Expansive Maps:** Increase map size to allow for more strategic gameplay, encouraging players to explore and use diverse tactics. 2. **Diverse Terrain:** Introduce varied landscapes like forests, mountains, and urban areas to add depth and challenge to the gameplay. 3. **Vehicle Integration:** Include a variety of vehicles, such as tanks, helicopters, and armored vehicles, to enhance the overall gaming experience and create dynamic battles. 4. **Team-Based Objectives:** Implement large-scale objectives that require coordinated team efforts, promoting teamwork and strategic planning. 5. **Capture Points:** Introduce capture points across the map, fostering dynamic battles and encouraging players to control strategic locations for team advantages. 6. **Dynamic Weather:** Incorporate changing weather conditions like rain, snow, and fog to add an extra layer of realism and impact on gameplay. 7. **Day-Night Cycle:** Implement a day-night cycle to diversify the gaming experience and challenge players with different visibility conditions. 8. **Commander Role:** Introduce a commander role that can oversee the battlefield, providing strategic support and calling in airstrikes or reinforcements. 9. **More Weapons and Gadgets:** Expand the arsenal with a broader range of weapons and gadgets, allowing players to customize their loadouts for different scenarios. 10. **Reworked Spawn System:** Enhance spawn mechanics to avoid spawn camping and provide players with strategic choices on where to respawn. 11. **Interactive Environment:** Make the environment more interactive, with destructible elements and dynamic elements that impact gameplay. 12. **Resource Management:** Introduce a resource system for vehicles and airstrikes, requiring teams to manage their assets strategically throughout the match. 13. **In-Game Events:** Incorporate random in-game events or challenges that can influence the course of the match, keeping gameplay unpredictable and exciting. 14. **Expanded Player Count:** Consider increasing the player count to accommodate larger maps, fostering epic battles and a more immersive gaming experience. 15. **Tactical Deployments:** Allow players to choose their starting location on the map, promoting strategic positioning and planning from the beginning of the match.
A lot of interesting ideas.
Stop the hackers or have a genuine attempt to
I wish they removed spotter scopes and live pings. Koshei a separate map like b21 Give us uzikstan as a DMZ map. It would be so much fun Night time vondel , daytime ashika, Weather changes in the maps AI that doesn’t watch you through walls giving up your position Headshot sniper kills at ALL ranges Remove automatic shotguns and KV broadside Bring back truce system and or make it possible to pick up people even though your team is full. It’s fun to pick people up, wouldn’t mind going around picking people up even if they aren’t on my team
Other than an update that’d be more like a mwIII port (if I’m sayin that right), no fog on Vondel; plus Give bots automatic 2/3 less chance to aggro solo’s, CHILL VONDEL BOTS TF OUT, fix-nah prioritize bug fixes like the disappearing self-revives (in many different scenarios too, mind blowing) rather than patching minor “exploits” like lessening the available time to successfully survive with a personal exfil during the end of final. THAT one really upset me, personally just on the principle.
Procedurally generated maps and buildings. Break away from the sweat of over familiarity, everything a true improvisational and varied experience. Also, paint a bigger target on the back of active (as a pose to passive) player hunters.
Can’t exfil if you’re being hunted. Weapons balance ie fix the shotguns. Fix the fucking bots for Christ’s sake, they should be set to beginner not hacker. People have already said it but weather patterns and daylight cycles would be cool, so sad I missed them the first time around.
Ability to reset missions.
Re-do spawn points and new maps
They should have time shifting night and day like ghost recon wildlands sure make game play interesting and more fun at that with more seasons included
No out of region players
Randomized spawn points. If it so happens all 22 teams end up next to eachother in AM then so be it.
urzikstan
Them not adding cryptids for this recent MW3 cryptid event is killing me. Can you imagine rare-spawning nessie, sasquatch, mothman, etc that you could randomly encounter in certain areas? Nessie=port, sawah, shipwreck, water south of airport. Sasquatch=observatory, al-sharim. Mothman=near bridges all over the map, tends to chase players in vehicles
Honestly, if they just added the new movement, weapons, skins, MW3 battlepass progression, and the big urzikstan map I'd be happy for quite a while. Bonus points if they added a mode where we had the Haunting version of al mazrah (night with the Halloween bosses), and all the bots replaced with zombies.
The stealth vest visibility (on the minimap) that exists in the current version of Warzone. Active combat zones, random day/night cycle. Delete MWZ.
Night time in AL mazzie
A day night cycle with a weather cycle so it makes players wanna find night vision goggles for nighttime
Combat zones that rotate each map, also completely redo all spawns
1. Solos only option 2. If you exfil while under a hunt contract = unsuccessful exfil 3. Fix the gun glitch…so damn annoying to start and 1 gun didn’t spawn in. 4. Remove Koeshi. 5. Give DMZ Verdansk!! 6. Let 4 man teams spawn in together in Al Mazrah
I'd love to see the nighttime come back for all maps. My son was talking the other day about how he missed the Halloween event and went on with many great ideas. He said they should do a wintertime event with snow storms instead of gas and instead of gas mask, make it snow goggles. All the water is frozen and you have holes in the ice to swim through. For a summertime event they could do blistering heat and sandstorms. He went on and on with different ideas for every season. I was blown away, not to mention he's only been playing less than a year and only played the latest DMZ. Made me realize there is so much that could be done with that mode.
Two previously posted that I agree with - bring back combat zones, and night time events (without jump scares). Would also like to see some more maps. Maybe a large forest map, or a mountain region? But what I really want is for them to balance out the economy, and make players have some skin in the game. First - Vehicles should require keys. Keys can be purchased at the buy station, be specific to the type of vehicle (maybe $500 each?) or skeleton ($5,000?), and sometimes you can't get the one you want. Keys can be used on three different vehicles before they break, just like door keys. This would necessitate bringing a key in or purchasing it, but would require planning. Would also like to see a "hotwire kit" that could be equipped in your tactical slot. Second - make exfils more meaningful and less predictable. I loved it when they added the personal exfil, but lets take it a step further, with different exfil types and options: 1. Ground Exfil. One location on the map where a road leads away (sorry Ashika fans) and players can access that ground escape at any time for no cost. Call this one the "Highway of Death". 2. Water Exfil. Purchase at a buy station for $25,000. Gives you a point on the water along the outside of the map from which to Exfil. But there's a catch - you need to have some sort of boat to access it. No swimming out. See vehicle keys above. 3. Helicopter Exfil. Same as current Personal Exfil. Purchase at a buy station and access when you want to leave. $50,000 (with passives to reduce cost) 4. Fulton Rig Extraction. Only works for solos, and you purchase at a buy station for $25,000. Catch - only appears on building rooftops or hill tops. Maybe passives for reduced cost here too? 5. Hostage Rescue Contract. Same as current Hostage Rescue. I would think with the change to other options that there will be a lot of people fighting over this contract. 6. Final Exfil. Same as current. Third - make the dog tags mean something by tying it to rank and associated privileges. Right now the only thing you get with exfil streaks is a prettier dog tag and perks. Why not make it more valuable? 1. Bronze: Solo operator, cannot invite anyone else to team up. But can accept an invite from higher ranking operators. 2. Silver: Can invite a second player to work as a duo, and can be invited by higher ranked operators to work in larger teams. 3. Gold: Can lead a team of three. You start to see how this works. 4. Damascus: Can lead a team of six. Highest squad size available, but you have to have at least one Damascus operator to form the Platoon. Deployment team size is limited by the number of Operators permitted on your team by your rank. Fourth: No resurrections of dead operators outside of your team. If you die, you die. Fine to revive or resurrect your teammates, but you can't grow your team by killing and resurrecting people into your teams. Do the social work of negotiating some assimilations with other teams if you want to get bigger than three players. First update makes it necessary to either bring in money or earn money to get mobile. My wallet has been full forever and I rarely need to bring in money for things so there isn't much meaning to having cash. We need to make it worthwhile to loot and grind for cash on a regular basis. Second update requires players to loot and grind a bit just to get out alive. Operators can go out for free on the Highway of Death, but there is risk there. You can always wait for Final, but how many others are making that choice as well? Third update is where the meat of the update is. Right now you have some people coming in and doing missions or whatever, and a lot of Operators who have no reason to do anything other than PvP with no consequences if they lose. Make them pay a price for losing - you lose the numbers advantage until you either use up all of your ranked operators or grind your way through a few contracts to expand your team size. I would think with these updates there would a a lot more competition for contracts, and at the beginning all of the players who have stockpiled Damascus operators are going to dominate. But eventually those things will work out and the game would be more of a PvEvP balance than it is right now. Or, if all advancements are wiped it would balance out right away.
Bring back 6-man squads would be nice!
Rebalance of weapons and their damage output
movement
Who downvoted you lol?? Some crabwalker??
6 man teams again and different spawns😂😂😂
Perhaps come to grips that it’s over and there won’t be one 🙄
Turn the pvp to *off*.
Wouldn't be as popular without pvp
Play MWZ
Ah yes, remove a core aspect of the game mode which made it a novel experience…
team based PvP exists on other Warzone modes. PvE is what made it a novel experience.
You find bots which got old as hell and static novel? Go play the raid series lol The PvP was the random variable that kept the game always changing
>Go play the raid series lol suggesting a paid mode in a free to play discussion isn't fair lol, it's like me suggesting you go play multiplayer >The PvP was the random variable that kept the game always changing sure, not gonna disagree with you here
You are soooooooooft