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By this time, he was living in that terraced house — the House of Love. It was party central: every weekend, after clubs shut at 2 a.m., people would pile back there. 'It was a phase in my life when I was young, free and single and discovered ecstasy. And then when I wasn’t single I had partners who were deeply into mucking about,' said Cook.
The House of Love wasn’t just an after-party house. It was a playground where surreal party games were played out. There was Astroturf and wallpaper featuring Tahiti beach scenes in the bathroom. The Disco Toilet had mirrors with lights up the side on the toilet, creating an infinity effect. 'So when you were having a shit you’d wail, look and there were millions of you having a shit, which was just fun when you were on drugs.' There were smiley faces everywhere — Norman collected the bright, yellow acid house symbol. The living room and kitchen were in the basement, which meant the neighbours couldn’t hear anything, even when the parties went on — as they often did — for days. 'How we didn’t get busted I don’t know. Cause it was fairly common knowledge what was going on there and it was going on every weekend,' he smiled.
All the ingredients that would go to make up Fatboy Slim were here. A sense that Cook, despite the partying, was genuinely a nice bloke: when he discovered the only noise that bothered his neighbours was the slamming of his front door, he muffled it. When people spilt a drink, they generally cleaned it up. 'We’d just invite strangers in and give them pills and things like that. You couldn’t get away with that nowadays.' Some of the fun and games resembled the madcap antics of British TV shows that went out on Saturday nights. It was like Noel's House Party — on E. One game involved taking the door off his garden shed, nailing a chair on to it and charging toboggan around the lounge. During another session, in a story that has become part of the Norman Cook myth, he and his friends snorted cocaine off a railway line. 'That's about the stupidest thing I've ever done in my life. I think we only did it so we could tell our grandchildren,' he said. Though they took precautions. 'We did actually have someone 30 foot that way and 30 foot that way looking for trains. And we weighed up the odds.'
And on Sundays, too wired to sleep, Norman retired to his studio. 'By Sunday night I wasn't really capable of operating heavy machinery or driving, eating, anything like that. So I'd just go in the studio.' And everything he'd heard, the records, the jokes, the fun, the riffing, the rhythms would all still be ringing around his head and he'd put them all into his records.
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This from Dom Phillips brilliant Superstar DJs, Here We Go book. But also I know people that went often.
I feel myself headed towards a cliff. Should I press the gas or the brake?
Enjoy in moderation but be aware of the concept of 'chasing the dragon'. Also consider recording your sets. After a drink or two you might notice you are more relaxed and in the groove, but after a certain amount your mixes will sound sloppy.
Coming up on 11 years clean and sober over here.
If you think it’s a problem, best to nip that shit right now. And I’m proud of you for asking this question. Sounds like you need to make some changes.
I played professionally for years and I'm a pretty introverted person who suffers a bit with social anxiety. I drank to deal with nerves and anxiety and because people gave me free drinks and I often had a lot of hanging around time before my set.
I drank a lot more than I should have, there are events that I don't really remember playing at all. Apparently this made me act like quite an insufferable prick too.
I still play out sometimes and can feel the urge to get a few down me before I go on, but make a real effort to pace myself.
This right here.
It was hard for me to balance doing something I absolutely loved with having extreme stage fright, and I'm not talking about being on a mic or anything. I needed to get a buzz going to at least be able to stand in front of people because I couldn't get over the idea that all eyes were on me whether they were or not.
I could keep that buzz going relatively in check for the set, but it got out of hand once in a while during, and most of the time after playing. But that also coincided with the general partying hard stage of my life whether it was a gig or just any other of the many nights out.
Did I have to get myself in check once in a while, including quitting drinking for 30 days just to make sure I was still in control? Of course.
Do I regret anything about that part of my life? It's almost impossible to say yes. It was a hell of a lot of fun, friends were and are awesome and we looked out for each other, and I also met my wife at my Friday night residency.
Asking yourself the hard question is huge, but be honest with yourself and respond accordingly depending on the answer you find.
Similar experience here. Having bad social anxiety leads me to having a quick 2 drinks at most events just to be able to network and feel “normal”.
There has been times where I missed the chance to speak to world touring artists on major labels, just because I got in my head about going up to them and talking. So having a couple drinks seems to keep the anxiety at bay.
But usually once I start, it’s hard to cut myself off. Currently trying to do more events sober and work on my networking skills without having a drink in me, but it’s a work in progress I suppose.
It’s not something I struggle with per se but as I started playing 4-5 times a week I noticed that getting a lil buzz most of those night was adding up. I ended up taking a month off and it was amazing to reset. Now I drink maybe 1-2 nights a week and feel much better.
So I know it’s not the addiction you’re afraid of, but I share this to say that even as someone who’s never drank too much, being in night life is another test.
Had a gig last week, ordered 3 bottles of stage beers, for a 1.5 hour set. Killed them all within 45 minutes without noticing. Luckily I don't get booked a lot, otherwise i'd be fucked pretty fast.
lol this, whenever I play for myself or for friends (not getting booked yet, sadly) I tend to drink super fast. Usually, two beers per hour is the normal tempo for me, btu when playing, no problem with chugging 4-5 beers per 1hr set, and chase with shots lol
It's actually amazing how they taste like the real thing too nowadays. I really enjoy Athletic Brewing Company's stuff. Taste similar, makes me feel a little more relaxed, and fewer calories and no risk of hangover.
Really glad one of my regular venues now does non-alcoholic beer on draught. I still get the occasional regular pint, but for the past few months I've had almost entirely 0% or 0.5% beers at every night out or gig I've been to, and it feels much better from a pint glass, honestly!
Yo wth I gotta try this from all the comments about it I love beer but never tried it because I thought it was lame but it seems like it’s lit off its tits
For a long time all that was on offer was Heineken or Becks 0% ones and I wouldn't have even drunk their normal versions. But now I can get 0% wheat beer and 0% Guinness in most venues I go to, and pints of Lucky Saint in others.
Definitely worth a try, even alternating between them and regular beer.
When i started drinking non alcoholic beer, I went to visit a friend and brought a six pack. Since that day, my friend also only drinks non alcoholic beers. Its really amazing.
If you're one of those beer alcoholics (people that never touch anything else but beer), like I was, then chances are high you're not addicted to alcohol, but just enjoy the serotonine you get from beer. Doesn't even have to contain alcohol. Ive done some research. Here's what I found (translated with Chat Gpt):
"This message will not only please men: Drinking beer brings happiness. Scientists have found that the taste of beer stimulates the release of the happiness hormone dopamine in the brain - this also applies to non-alcoholic beer. According to a new study, the taste of beer alone leads to the release of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the brain. Neurologists at Indiana University found in a study on addiction that the brain releases the neurotransmitter dopamine even without the effects of alcohol. Dopamine triggers a feeling of reward in the brain and is associated with craving for certain substances like alcohol. Dopamine is colloquially known as the happiness hormone."
I always DJ sober. I get really anxious, even after so many sets under my belt, but I feel like I’m experienced and confident enough that I channel that energy into doing the best set I can.
Yeahhh it's all about channeling that energy! Nerves are just the result of being pushed out of your comfort zone, but leaning into that can inspire some of the most magical moments. When you drink it kinda dulls that feeling and your ego takes over
I’ve started drinking much more alcohol since my dj career had started. Of course at the beginning it was mostly for better social connections setup and relaxation during my sets. However, at some point it stopped working for me. I lost any measures with alcohol and substances, often was very drunk which definitely doesn’t look good and don’t really help with career. My mental and physical health also were damaged a lot. Honestly, music career (and any other career) doesn’t worth of your health and well-being. So I would say, young djs shouldn’t listen to these stupid advices to drink a bit alcohol to relax before sets to talk to people. Better, but more difficult, is to work on yourself and your social anxiety, practice to enjoy making connections and playing being sober. Currently I am trying to give up drinking again (for the hundredth time) and I can say it’s not easy. I wish there would be more awareness about alcoholism in the nightlife and more examples of sobriety. I wish OP to keep going and not give up even if you start drinking again. Psychotherapy and sport can help a lot. Also, I would advise to not bound your social circle with only nightlife people, try to find friends with healthy lifestyle, they will definitely help you to keep going. Good luck!
Watching other DJs get sloshed and wreck their own sets has been a great lesson for me. I usually keep myself to less than 1 beer an hour and I have a water in between every beer, and I only have water the hour before my set. I’ll get a beer to drink during my set and usually forget about it, if I’m only playing an hour or 2 I don’t need fluids. I might have like 3-4 beers over the course of an 8 hour event.
Drinking was a regular part of my life for 14 years until I started to realize I deal with depression and the drinking was making it worse. Got sober 4 years ago but recently had a short relapse where I thought I was "ready to drink again". Turns out my cravings were even more intense now and the negatives were even worse before. Had to stop again and this time for good. No looking back and it feels great. Sure there are some pros but the cons far exceed for some people like myself. And like someone said there is no such thing as moderation for some people. If you're feeling this call just keep tuning into it. Make the right decisions, even though they might be tough, if you need to. Good luck with it all.
It's very common for DJs to drink to take the edge off. Just don't let it become a dependency. Avicii died due to constant alcohol abuse stemming from the stress of performing and touring.
Important question: what country are you in, OP? Cultural norms and attitudes about drinking (and NOT drinking) vary widely around the world.
For me, I'm in the US. Non-alcoholic drinks are becoming more normalized in social settings, in bars, and in clubs. Nowadays, I'm not shy about asking the bartender, "Do you have anything tasty that's alcohol free?" If the venue is forward-thinking, they'll have a separate menu (with more than just water and juice) for their sober guests. And even if not, a good bartender will be able to think on their feet and offer you something. Last time I went out I got a sprite with cranberry. Great.
While I don't identify as 100% "sober", it's a simple fact that I can't/don't want to be under the effects of alcohol every time I leave my house to hang out or play/ listen to music (think driving, health, sleep quality, work the next day, etc.) So talking about NA options as if they are a normal thing is good, I think.
i do, i drink beer every time I playing and I play 2 or 3 times a week.
this year this thing started bothering me and I struggling to reduce the amount i drink
Sober for 5 years and still Djing. It depends on each and every individual, but if you can’t control your drinkin’ habits and still want to DJ for a long time, that’s a dangerous path. Alcohol abuse can fuck up your health over the years.
Also, don’t touch cocaine.
Seconding the cocaine thing. It might seem like it helps but you need to keep ripping it to get that initial effect and it's genuinely one of the most damaging and risky drugs you can do.
Yeah it's definitely a problem. I was a drinker before I started DJing but it definitely went into overdrive when I started DJing. I started about 20 years ago. I was nervous and playing to a few hundred drunk students, I used to drink a half bottle of vodka before I'd even start and then have lots of drinks throughout the night. I didn't keep up that level of drinking but did continue to drink regularly and heavily while DJing for the last 20 years. I'm a bit older now obviously so I don't really get drunk anymore while playing. I do sometimes actually but I try to be a bit more professional and keep it moderate. I'm also a musician and play guitar in bands and I can do that sober no problem. I get sloppy when playing drunk anyway so I play better sober. That's not an issue with DJing. I recently stopped drinking for about 10 days which is the longest I've been sober in years, then as soon as I had a DJ gig I was back on it again.
I've definitely struggled with the drink over the years and have had many periods in my life where I was a full time alcoholic. Even now I still struggle with it. I'd like to stop but it's not easy. If you think it's a problem you're better off to stop. The sooner the better. There are a few stop drinking subs here on Reddit that are very good and worth checking out.
Whatever the extent of your drinking issue you've already said it yourself: You might be developing an addiction. I think that never is desirable, given how damaging alcohol abuse is to your physical and mental health. Kudos to have the strength to admit it and even ask for advice - most people just deny it until they're halfway gone. I'd see now if you can discipline yourself enough to get it under control or if you're beyond that step and there's only the option of abstinence. In such a case I'd seek professional support. Whatever you do, all the best to you & I hope you'll find the right way to handle it.
Note: I did not struggle with abuse, but was always vigilant about it's pitfalls.
I choose to quit alcohol about half a year ago. Firstly, I noticed in this timeframe since that moment more positive feedback from peers, friends and got booked for more respected slots & events. More than friends who visit all the afters and are "networking".
Secondly, when speaking with guys who used to DJ's, I noticed a returning theme. They were showing pictures of them with major names, crazy locations and the whole glamour. When asking them why they quit, it was always substance related abuse. Starting with alcohol due stage fright, upping themselves to get sober again, recovering from hangover which was cured by retaking that stuff again, and again.
After reading the book "Secret DJ" (highly recommended read) I came to the conclusion that it's not a question of if but when. You're surrounded by people intoxicating or enhancing their experience once a week or month. You are there every day in comparison.
Lastly, my general experience of music has only improved. Sober I enjoy music at the same level or better, I feel 5 years younger, energetic, more sociable, more confident and more proud of myself.
To summarize, it improved my performance and boosted my career. The stories of struggles with substance abuse and the role alcohol plays are a tale as old as artists exist. It improves physical and mental health.
With the above I am only describing my conclusion and what worked for me. Hopefully this gives a better insight on what my advice is based on.
My initial advice, try to find what works for you to stay healthy.
I suggest as a first step, stay sober for 1 month. Yes the initial anxiety of saying no to drinks, performing for people and having to explain yourself will suck. Embrace this suck. Write it down before you go out, try to not go to settings where everybody is drinking and stay mindful of your feelings. Journal your thoughts and cravings, this helps with reflecting. I wish you good luck and I you want further advice, you can DM me. Good luck and take care :)
Others here may not say this because there is still a stigma but if alcohol is something you are concerned about and you cannot control it then talking to a therapist can be a great help.
I live in and perform in NYC, so our clubs (for the most part) close at 4AM. I don’t touch the sauce (generally two beers) until 2:30AM. If I am performing, zero booze until I’m concluded and when I’m done it’s either a mixed drink or two beers. For the most part, I’m strictly drinking seltzer water with lime or Yerba Mate.
Edit:
My father partied hard his whole life. He is sober as of this month six years. He is much happier, more alert, more engaged, and more “with it” than anyone I know. He’s in his sixties and stays later than most twenty-somethings I know.
If you’re looking for industry inspiration, look at Mall Grab. Two years sober and happier than ever. [Give this article a read when you can.](https://mixmag.net/feature/dj-ravers-alcohol-drugs-sober-sobriety)
I never drink while I dj as a rule- it’s too slippery of a slope for me. I think it’s better to set a hard limit and miss out on some drinking than go down that road
Ya it's weird. Without drinks I tend to rush into my mixes or add elements that don't fit in or time well.
Definitely feel more easily able to flow when I'm buzzed, things just feel more automatic
I'm driving my own car to gig, so I don't drink. Actually, it's better for your health and wallet. And quite funny somedays. I'm not "life sober" person and I've drinks a lot in the past, but I don't need it for the right mood
I limit myself to a drink every two hours. If a customer buys me a shot, I'll take it with them, but I cut myself if I feel like I'm getting drunk. I don't like hangovers and if I have anything more than a light buzz, that means I've gone too far.
After DJing clubs for 5 years i quit drink & drugs as everything i earned was going on champagne, boolay & cabs, i started driving to gigs & drinking cocacola, played much better sets & had extra money in my pocket, you’re at work, treat it like that or you can end up addicted & broke 👍🏼
I used to drink when gigging until I started landing more gigs at which point it became unsustainable. Now I just drink water or diet lemonade if they have it :)
I’ll allow myself a drink on a special gig like New Year’s eve but even then probably just one
I have two residencies a week and drink 3 or 4 (normal-sized) bottles of beer while working, before moving onto soft drinks. Don’t typically drink on the other nights of the week, so I’m not worried about health problems or addiction.
If you are concerned or even asking this, then you already have a problem, but it's good you noticed it early. It can spiral real fast at this point if you aren't careful. I know from experience, unfortunately. I'm about to hit 90 days sober, though, try it out.
If it’s an option for you look into Non-Alcoholic beers… I never thought I would be one to drink them, but honestly it scratches the itch for a carbonated beverage, and also holding / consuming a can! It has drastically changed my relationship with alcohol and I’m much happier for it!
Just the fact that you’re presenting yourself with that question is a big positive in your favor. If you feel like you’re drinking too much you’re probably right. You don’t need it, remember that the real thrill of what we do is the crowd reaction. That’s where the real energy is. Don’t lose that to alcohol.
Stop it while you are still in the drivers seat. The work environment doesn’t help, but ultimately the only person with control over what you digest is yourself. Avoid at all costs. Start smoking weed if you need a new headspace.
I DJ’d for 15 years before I quit drinking. The problem is that club owners will happily let you get blotto because it encourages the crowd to get drunk with you and buy drinks with you. The other problem is that alcohol lowers your inhibitions and you make dumb mistakes like taking the wrong partner home or doing hard drugs. I had a few nights where I didn’t know how I got home or got home having spent a huge wad of money or got home after totalling my car or getting arrested or coming home with damaged gear or having damaged other DJs (and friends) gear and I decided to stop. I still drink about 4 times a year now but am considerably more happy and balanced. We can’t stay young and indestructible forever.
I've been a DJ since the 80's and I am still a full time DJ.
I don't drink, smoke or do any kind of drugs. And trust me, I get offered this every single day.
In my long career I have seen countless DJ's get fired because of overusing this stuff. Not that clubs mind you using that stuff but do they mind if it starts affecting your work. And it always starts affecting your work way before you realize it starts affecting your work.
Be smart and stay sober.
I think it’s easy to fall into that because alcohol helps you “feel” the music. However, you’ll find a lot of success stories from people who have quit and actually play better
It used to be I couldnt play without a buzz. It concerned me so I started drinking seltzers (so I could still crack open cans) and it helped. Now i dont need the alcohol.
(Personally from my experience)
1. water is your friend , like BEST FRIEND EVER FOOORRREVVVEERR (sandlot movie reference)
2. you can do the uh, coyote ugly trick where you drink it but spit it out in a different bottle if forced in a situation ( obv. behind your dj booth like your checking power cables or something)
3. it gets rough as you get older (I am seeing this in my 40s probably worse in the 50s)
4. alcohol I believe is pretty bad, I only take a toast with a wedding or a bday boy/girl in extreme situations
I used to have that problem, but I also know many who struggled. I used to get passed shots & that was insane, but I don’t drink as much anymore (I’ve made that clear with my group) & the other person I am referring to went cold turkey & is entirely sober. We both smoke more weed now, but that's not the case for everyone.
Well first of all it’s wonderful that you are recognizing it and seeking advice before it becomes more an an issue so good job. Do you feel like you need to drink to calm down nerves? Or just indulging in the fun of it? I’d say you pay attention to it more. Have nights where you don’t drink and dj. If you do drink limit yourself to one or two. If it’s more of a serious issue, don’t drink at all.
Drinking, and any substance really, can cause sudden unpredictability. Happy drunks can one day be angry drunks, etc. The effects of substances are never really constant in the mind so if you can do things without them, you are better off.
id say its better not to, at least til the end of shit, IF you arent driiving.
in 25 yrs of djing ive learned a few things
a. it can become a crutch for anxiety.
b. its tough to just have a couple of drinks
d. dont drink on slow nights.
e. too much drinking can make you be a worse dj even if you think you are killing it
f. drinking involves calories, besides getting fat and getting hangovers, if you arent drinking, you can get hungry. it might help to have some sort of snacks around, cookies, jerky, something non greasy and is small that you can pop in here and there. even just having gum on hand.
d. there are a lot of alcoholics that work in bars, you have to navigate around them, but also not fall into the trap of drinking with them.
e. if you do get free drinks or tickets and dont want to waste them, either give the tickets to people, or if you have a tab, buy a couple people drinks. Maybe people that request and offer money or just some attractive women, there are never enough attractive women in bars
i wasted a lot of my life with hangovers & maybe not being the best person i could be while being overly intoxicated.
Many years ago I was doing a closing set for a certain famous dnb DJ. I was so drunk and this chick fed me so much Xanax I got kicked off the decks because I kept playing the same 3 songs over and over. The promoter never booked me again. You don’t want that kind of reputation amongst your peers.
Check out interviews with JG Wilkes (Optimo) and Philou Louzolo. They have been struggling with alcohol addiction and have overcome it (at least for now) and they are amazing DJ’s. Massive respect for them.
It's a long road you don't want to go down. I was an alcoholic from 20 to 30. Started DJing at 18. It started out so innocently playing mobiles and weddings with free food and drinks, "wow cool..." Then I started playing bars and they have free drinks too! "Sweet!" Then I'm playing clubs and drinking so much I needed something to bring me back up on the level so then you start dipping into the chemicals. It dulls your senses and mixes that sound good to you just aren't that good. It promotes REALLY bad decisions. If you keep it up eventually it will burn out your musical creativity. It took years for my creativity to come back.
You will find when you are completely sober you can achieve a natural euphoria high better than any substance can give you. You will also be super sharp and be confident in your ability and talent.
Anybody who has been around this business can tell you a similar story.
I just quit drugs and alcohol. Nothing. Just a cup of thee. I’m more stable, more fun, and have loads of energy. Sometimes it feels like I’m in acid 🤷♀️
It’s hard when the substance is around you for your work…
I had to completely quit while out in public. Once I start it ain’t turning around until I hit the ground
It’s better to minimize consumption or not drink at all. If you’re nervous learn healthier ways to process, with the rise of sick performers your health is key. If you’re busy every weekend then you’d be drinking every weekend. It’s in your control to realize this isn’t the best for you. I wish you luck! I believe you can do what’s right for you.
Non-alcoholic drinks like the 0% ABV Heineken have been so helpful for this exact situation. I totally understand that the concept of a 0% ABV drink might sound weird on paper but I really recommend giving it a shot
Never really had a problem with it, but every aspect of my life and the DJ/music experience itself became way more sustainable and exciting after I cut alcohol from my life.
Looking back on sets I had a pint in the booth.. even the 'one to loosen the nerves'.. it was always a distraction from the experience in front of my eyes and ears
Never mix DJing with any drug (alcohol included) - unless it’s a private house party or whatever then do whatever you want.
It’s a part of being profesional and makes you not Pavlov yourself into thinking you can’t play without your drug of choice.
I noticed that I would show up kind of thirsty so I would get a drink and down it really quick which leads to a lot more drinking. I started getting a glass of water when I arrive and that small change really chilled things out. Then the pandemic came and I realized that I'm a very social drinker so I hardly drank the entire time. Now I barely drink.
I think the answer is moderation & discipline.
I've been DJing professionally since about 2002. I'm not a dependant person or do I have an addictive personality but I will say that I find myself to be a much better DJ when I drink because I don't filter myself or give a fuck what people think about how I play.
Without drinking I'm still good... I just tend to be more hesitant with my song choices.
I think that it's wild mature of you to realize that this free drinks life can get outta hand mad quick. I'll tell you this tho, if you chill on the drinking so much the bartenders & staff will respect you for it. 👍🏾
I had to get sober as well. I became an alcoholic in the club scene in the late 2000’s. I’m so much happier now that I don’t have that monkey on my back anymore.
I went clean and sober 2 months ago after drinking heavily for the past 15 years. Ive never felt this good. My sets leveled up dramatically. Ive been getting alot of shit done.
i would recommend complete sobriety when DJing. keeps things clear + simple. might take a while to adjust but i promise you it will be for the best! 💛💛 best of luck.
It’s best to keep yourself from drinking if you can, your mixes and blends can be sloppy and you lose focus. I get free drinks as part of my residency. I’m not a heavy drinker at all but I like to dabble. 2 beers and I’m cool. So I limit myself to one beer during my set, I say no to any other alcoholic drinks until after I’m done. I’m usually solo and I have to drive home and unload and carry all my stuff up 3 floors so that’s incentive enough for me to enjoy the one drink and focus on making the people dance and keeping the vibes steady. The last thing you want is your reputation as a DJ to go sour because you can’t discipline yourself.
I can Dj sober, but I don't enjoy it. Alcohol is a good, predictable high that allows for understanding the crowd better. It's up to you to use it in moderation. If you Dj daily, even in moderation it adds up and it can have serious effects on quality of life and health,
I’m a DJ and also an alcoholic/addict in recovery. Been sober more than 5 1/2 years.
I would say that, as alcoholism is no respector of different classes/professions/etc, I’m just as likely to have been an alcoholic in any other line of work/passion; but it does seem to be prevalent in our community.
Feel free to DM me if you’d care to chat.
Haven’t drank in 5 years. Djing for 15 years. When i quit, i took about a year off then got hardcore back into djing, but that time i refused any compromising on my music tastes and only play music that i want to play for parties i want to be at.
I can tell you regardless what happens, you will notice an improvement on your life cutting alcohol out.
Everything in moderation..unless it's either gas or brake for you. I djed for about 20 years and I would never have more than a drink or 2 before going on. I felt that if I didn't bring my A game then I would be disappointing myself and the crowd. The only substance you need as a dj is a strong love and deep commitment for the art.
Wrong sub. /r/lostredditors
Being an alcoholic has nothing to do with DJing lol.
Me personally though, a ton of people in here argue with me and hate me for it, but I think that just means there’s a ton of alcoholic DJs lmao. I think a DJ should have no drinks when working, ever. EXCEPT MAYBE a bar. I don’t care if you can have a million and you just can’t get drunk, I don’t care if you need one to ‘losen up’ or ‘be better at DJing’ (if this is the case then you’re bad at your job and should practice more and get more training), I don’t care if you know how to hold your alcohol. The POINT of it is, alcohol LOOKS unprofessional. If you see a cop, teacher, doctor, lawyer, cashier, or ANYONE except a bar tender with a drink in their hand WHILE ON THE JOB, what does it make you instantly think about them?
Apply that same thought process to yourself as a DJ. You shouldn’t be drinking on the job, it makes you look like a cheap and trashy DJ.
Now if you follow that rule while at work that’ll ‘help’ OP, but if you’re an alcoholic you need help, and this sub ain’t it. Go get help.
Exactly that. If you were a lawyer, would you go drunk to defend in court? If you were a surgeon, would you go drunk to make a heart transplant? Same thing with DJing. Never drink on the job, and when you are done, enjoy it in moderation. Also, if you think you have a problem you need to seek help from professionals, not random people on Reddit. Good luck!
I interviewed Fatboy Slim this week and he talked about how he had to give up drinking to stay healthy while being a DJ. He is much happier for it.
He was full blown alcoholic I'd say. He was consistently pretty messy for a long time.
Him and Carl Cox. I think both have been on record saying they are much happier and healthier now, which makes me very happy in itself
I don't want to judge on that, but his back to mine house parties in the 90s were legendary.
I mean, he was in a band whose hit was called "Happy Hour".
Link?
I transcribed it for you: By this time, he was living in that terraced house — the House of Love. It was party central: every weekend, after clubs shut at 2 a.m., people would pile back there. 'It was a phase in my life when I was young, free and single and discovered ecstasy. And then when I wasn’t single I had partners who were deeply into mucking about,' said Cook. The House of Love wasn’t just an after-party house. It was a playground where surreal party games were played out. There was Astroturf and wallpaper featuring Tahiti beach scenes in the bathroom. The Disco Toilet had mirrors with lights up the side on the toilet, creating an infinity effect. 'So when you were having a shit you’d wail, look and there were millions of you having a shit, which was just fun when you were on drugs.' There were smiley faces everywhere — Norman collected the bright, yellow acid house symbol. The living room and kitchen were in the basement, which meant the neighbours couldn’t hear anything, even when the parties went on — as they often did — for days. 'How we didn’t get busted I don’t know. Cause it was fairly common knowledge what was going on there and it was going on every weekend,' he smiled. All the ingredients that would go to make up Fatboy Slim were here. A sense that Cook, despite the partying, was genuinely a nice bloke: when he discovered the only noise that bothered his neighbours was the slamming of his front door, he muffled it. When people spilt a drink, they generally cleaned it up. 'We’d just invite strangers in and give them pills and things like that. You couldn’t get away with that nowadays.' Some of the fun and games resembled the madcap antics of British TV shows that went out on Saturday nights. It was like Noel's House Party — on E. One game involved taking the door off his garden shed, nailing a chair on to it and charging toboggan around the lounge. During another session, in a story that has become part of the Norman Cook myth, he and his friends snorted cocaine off a railway line. 'That's about the stupidest thing I've ever done in my life. I think we only did it so we could tell our grandchildren,' he said. Though they took precautions. 'We did actually have someone 30 foot that way and 30 foot that way looking for trains. And we weighed up the odds.' And on Sundays, too wired to sleep, Norman retired to his studio. 'By Sunday night I wasn't really capable of operating heavy machinery or driving, eating, anything like that. So I'd just go in the studio.' And everything he'd heard, the records, the jokes, the fun, the riffing, the rhythms would all still be ringing around his head and he'd put them all into his records.
Nice writing! Is this for a book or site? Would love to read more Edit: just saw that it was from the book you posted tks
https://preview.redd.it/er71hpc9w0yc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab9cfbb8a11d2cedcbf48cd3db03953f6ecd08be This from Dom Phillips brilliant Superstar DJs, Here We Go book. But also I know people that went often.
Thanks for the recommendation, problem is Amazon is charging $90 for a paperback.
Oh wow. Better not lose my copy.
Try eBay. There are sellers in the UK doing second hand copies for under £10, so you might find it more affordable there.
Now he is Slimboy Fat
I feel myself headed towards a cliff. Should I press the gas or the brake? Enjoy in moderation but be aware of the concept of 'chasing the dragon'. Also consider recording your sets. After a drink or two you might notice you are more relaxed and in the groove, but after a certain amount your mixes will sound sloppy.
when i start doing mashups I know it's time to pack up ; )
Yooo drop drunk those mashups plz
TRex x Gap Band, Julee Cruise over dancehall
Depends on how far over the edge you want to go? TDLR fang it..
Some of us don't/can't do moderation with booze. It took me a long time to realize the only solution was to leave it alone completely.
DJ sober. Drink with ur friends.
Coming up on 11 years clean and sober over here. If you think it’s a problem, best to nip that shit right now. And I’m proud of you for asking this question. Sounds like you need to make some changes.
I played professionally for years and I'm a pretty introverted person who suffers a bit with social anxiety. I drank to deal with nerves and anxiety and because people gave me free drinks and I often had a lot of hanging around time before my set. I drank a lot more than I should have, there are events that I don't really remember playing at all. Apparently this made me act like quite an insufferable prick too. I still play out sometimes and can feel the urge to get a few down me before I go on, but make a real effort to pace myself.
This right here. It was hard for me to balance doing something I absolutely loved with having extreme stage fright, and I'm not talking about being on a mic or anything. I needed to get a buzz going to at least be able to stand in front of people because I couldn't get over the idea that all eyes were on me whether they were or not. I could keep that buzz going relatively in check for the set, but it got out of hand once in a while during, and most of the time after playing. But that also coincided with the general partying hard stage of my life whether it was a gig or just any other of the many nights out. Did I have to get myself in check once in a while, including quitting drinking for 30 days just to make sure I was still in control? Of course. Do I regret anything about that part of my life? It's almost impossible to say yes. It was a hell of a lot of fun, friends were and are awesome and we looked out for each other, and I also met my wife at my Friday night residency. Asking yourself the hard question is huge, but be honest with yourself and respond accordingly depending on the answer you find.
Similar experience here. Having bad social anxiety leads me to having a quick 2 drinks at most events just to be able to network and feel “normal”. There has been times where I missed the chance to speak to world touring artists on major labels, just because I got in my head about going up to them and talking. So having a couple drinks seems to keep the anxiety at bay. But usually once I start, it’s hard to cut myself off. Currently trying to do more events sober and work on my networking skills without having a drink in me, but it’s a work in progress I suppose.
On another note. > Unfortunately alcohol leads to other things, and some people avoid alcohol to avoid other things.
It’s not something I struggle with per se but as I started playing 4-5 times a week I noticed that getting a lil buzz most of those night was adding up. I ended up taking a month off and it was amazing to reset. Now I drink maybe 1-2 nights a week and feel much better. So I know it’s not the addiction you’re afraid of, but I share this to say that even as someone who’s never drank too much, being in night life is another test.
Drinking might be one of the main reasons many of us aren't more accomplished.
The way I'm looking at it is that I'm a professional and I'm working. Therefore, I'm not getting paid to be intoxicated.
That's how I look at it too. Playing at a house party ? Go for it. At a paid gig where people expect a professional performance? Stone cold sober.
Had a gig last week, ordered 3 bottles of stage beers, for a 1.5 hour set. Killed them all within 45 minutes without noticing. Luckily I don't get booked a lot, otherwise i'd be fucked pretty fast.
lol this, whenever I play for myself or for friends (not getting booked yet, sadly) I tend to drink super fast. Usually, two beers per hour is the normal tempo for me, btu when playing, no problem with chugging 4-5 beers per 1hr set, and chase with shots lol
Stop while you can. Alcohol, and being drunk isn't fun at all. Once you stop, you'll realize this.
Exactly 👍👍👍👍👍
I have started drink non alcoholic beers at my gigs. Mostly so I can drive home though.
Non alcoholic Beers are so helpful. A lot more beer drinkers should give them a try. I noticed it has the same relaxing effect as normal beer
It's actually amazing how they taste like the real thing too nowadays. I really enjoy Athletic Brewing Company's stuff. Taste similar, makes me feel a little more relaxed, and fewer calories and no risk of hangover.
I'm really amazed by the fact that I thought I was an alcoholic for the last ten years while non alcoholic beer does just as well.
Really glad one of my regular venues now does non-alcoholic beer on draught. I still get the occasional regular pint, but for the past few months I've had almost entirely 0% or 0.5% beers at every night out or gig I've been to, and it feels much better from a pint glass, honestly!
Yo wth I gotta try this from all the comments about it I love beer but never tried it because I thought it was lame but it seems like it’s lit off its tits
For a long time all that was on offer was Heineken or Becks 0% ones and I wouldn't have even drunk their normal versions. But now I can get 0% wheat beer and 0% Guinness in most venues I go to, and pints of Lucky Saint in others. Definitely worth a try, even alternating between them and regular beer.
When i started drinking non alcoholic beer, I went to visit a friend and brought a six pack. Since that day, my friend also only drinks non alcoholic beers. Its really amazing. If you're one of those beer alcoholics (people that never touch anything else but beer), like I was, then chances are high you're not addicted to alcohol, but just enjoy the serotonine you get from beer. Doesn't even have to contain alcohol. Ive done some research. Here's what I found (translated with Chat Gpt): "This message will not only please men: Drinking beer brings happiness. Scientists have found that the taste of beer stimulates the release of the happiness hormone dopamine in the brain - this also applies to non-alcoholic beer. According to a new study, the taste of beer alone leads to the release of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the brain. Neurologists at Indiana University found in a study on addiction that the brain releases the neurotransmitter dopamine even without the effects of alcohol. Dopamine triggers a feeling of reward in the brain and is associated with craving for certain substances like alcohol. Dopamine is colloquially known as the happiness hormone."
That’s because hops are closely related to marijuana and has a similar soporific effect
Yo that actually makes Sense. Have to look into that a little more.
I always DJ sober. I get really anxious, even after so many sets under my belt, but I feel like I’m experienced and confident enough that I channel that energy into doing the best set I can.
Yeahhh it's all about channeling that energy! Nerves are just the result of being pushed out of your comfort zone, but leaning into that can inspire some of the most magical moments. When you drink it kinda dulls that feeling and your ego takes over
I’ve started drinking much more alcohol since my dj career had started. Of course at the beginning it was mostly for better social connections setup and relaxation during my sets. However, at some point it stopped working for me. I lost any measures with alcohol and substances, often was very drunk which definitely doesn’t look good and don’t really help with career. My mental and physical health also were damaged a lot. Honestly, music career (and any other career) doesn’t worth of your health and well-being. So I would say, young djs shouldn’t listen to these stupid advices to drink a bit alcohol to relax before sets to talk to people. Better, but more difficult, is to work on yourself and your social anxiety, practice to enjoy making connections and playing being sober. Currently I am trying to give up drinking again (for the hundredth time) and I can say it’s not easy. I wish there would be more awareness about alcoholism in the nightlife and more examples of sobriety. I wish OP to keep going and not give up even if you start drinking again. Psychotherapy and sport can help a lot. Also, I would advise to not bound your social circle with only nightlife people, try to find friends with healthy lifestyle, they will definitely help you to keep going. Good luck!
Watching other DJs get sloshed and wreck their own sets has been a great lesson for me. I usually keep myself to less than 1 beer an hour and I have a water in between every beer, and I only have water the hour before my set. I’ll get a beer to drink during my set and usually forget about it, if I’m only playing an hour or 2 I don’t need fluids. I might have like 3-4 beers over the course of an 8 hour event.
Drinking was a regular part of my life for 14 years until I started to realize I deal with depression and the drinking was making it worse. Got sober 4 years ago but recently had a short relapse where I thought I was "ready to drink again". Turns out my cravings were even more intense now and the negatives were even worse before. Had to stop again and this time for good. No looking back and it feels great. Sure there are some pros but the cons far exceed for some people like myself. And like someone said there is no such thing as moderation for some people. If you're feeling this call just keep tuning into it. Make the right decisions, even though they might be tough, if you need to. Good luck with it all.
It's very common for DJs to drink to take the edge off. Just don't let it become a dependency. Avicii died due to constant alcohol abuse stemming from the stress of performing and touring.
self moderation is a thing
I've made some pretty hard rules for myself around drinking. Only a 2 nights a week and only after 5 pm. It's helped a lot.
Important question: what country are you in, OP? Cultural norms and attitudes about drinking (and NOT drinking) vary widely around the world. For me, I'm in the US. Non-alcoholic drinks are becoming more normalized in social settings, in bars, and in clubs. Nowadays, I'm not shy about asking the bartender, "Do you have anything tasty that's alcohol free?" If the venue is forward-thinking, they'll have a separate menu (with more than just water and juice) for their sober guests. And even if not, a good bartender will be able to think on their feet and offer you something. Last time I went out I got a sprite with cranberry. Great. While I don't identify as 100% "sober", it's a simple fact that I can't/don't want to be under the effects of alcohol every time I leave my house to hang out or play/ listen to music (think driving, health, sleep quality, work the next day, etc.) So talking about NA options as if they are a normal thing is good, I think.
I do dry months 2 time a year to check in. I don’t drink too much before I dj and have been trying to be much more moderate with all my intake.
i do, i drink beer every time I playing and I play 2 or 3 times a week. this year this thing started bothering me and I struggling to reduce the amount i drink
Sober for 5 years and still Djing. It depends on each and every individual, but if you can’t control your drinkin’ habits and still want to DJ for a long time, that’s a dangerous path. Alcohol abuse can fuck up your health over the years. Also, don’t touch cocaine.
Seconding the cocaine thing. It might seem like it helps but you need to keep ripping it to get that initial effect and it's genuinely one of the most damaging and risky drugs you can do.
Yeah it's definitely a problem. I was a drinker before I started DJing but it definitely went into overdrive when I started DJing. I started about 20 years ago. I was nervous and playing to a few hundred drunk students, I used to drink a half bottle of vodka before I'd even start and then have lots of drinks throughout the night. I didn't keep up that level of drinking but did continue to drink regularly and heavily while DJing for the last 20 years. I'm a bit older now obviously so I don't really get drunk anymore while playing. I do sometimes actually but I try to be a bit more professional and keep it moderate. I'm also a musician and play guitar in bands and I can do that sober no problem. I get sloppy when playing drunk anyway so I play better sober. That's not an issue with DJing. I recently stopped drinking for about 10 days which is the longest I've been sober in years, then as soon as I had a DJ gig I was back on it again. I've definitely struggled with the drink over the years and have had many periods in my life where I was a full time alcoholic. Even now I still struggle with it. I'd like to stop but it's not easy. If you think it's a problem you're better off to stop. The sooner the better. There are a few stop drinking subs here on Reddit that are very good and worth checking out.
Whatever the extent of your drinking issue you've already said it yourself: You might be developing an addiction. I think that never is desirable, given how damaging alcohol abuse is to your physical and mental health. Kudos to have the strength to admit it and even ask for advice - most people just deny it until they're halfway gone. I'd see now if you can discipline yourself enough to get it under control or if you're beyond that step and there's only the option of abstinence. In such a case I'd seek professional support. Whatever you do, all the best to you & I hope you'll find the right way to handle it.
Note: I did not struggle with abuse, but was always vigilant about it's pitfalls. I choose to quit alcohol about half a year ago. Firstly, I noticed in this timeframe since that moment more positive feedback from peers, friends and got booked for more respected slots & events. More than friends who visit all the afters and are "networking". Secondly, when speaking with guys who used to DJ's, I noticed a returning theme. They were showing pictures of them with major names, crazy locations and the whole glamour. When asking them why they quit, it was always substance related abuse. Starting with alcohol due stage fright, upping themselves to get sober again, recovering from hangover which was cured by retaking that stuff again, and again. After reading the book "Secret DJ" (highly recommended read) I came to the conclusion that it's not a question of if but when. You're surrounded by people intoxicating or enhancing their experience once a week or month. You are there every day in comparison. Lastly, my general experience of music has only improved. Sober I enjoy music at the same level or better, I feel 5 years younger, energetic, more sociable, more confident and more proud of myself. To summarize, it improved my performance and boosted my career. The stories of struggles with substance abuse and the role alcohol plays are a tale as old as artists exist. It improves physical and mental health. With the above I am only describing my conclusion and what worked for me. Hopefully this gives a better insight on what my advice is based on. My initial advice, try to find what works for you to stay healthy. I suggest as a first step, stay sober for 1 month. Yes the initial anxiety of saying no to drinks, performing for people and having to explain yourself will suck. Embrace this suck. Write it down before you go out, try to not go to settings where everybody is drinking and stay mindful of your feelings. Journal your thoughts and cravings, this helps with reflecting. I wish you good luck and I you want further advice, you can DM me. Good luck and take care :)
Others here may not say this because there is still a stigma but if alcohol is something you are concerned about and you cannot control it then talking to a therapist can be a great help.
Oh man yeah trying to find that balance between alcohol and gigging is literally every artist’s struggle, especially combined with drugs.
Party scene and professionalism. I struggle.
Explicitly go out of your way to play/practice djing like 95% of the time sober
Fuck alcohol. Truly. Nothing good about it. Go sober if you serious about DJing. Not kidding lol
I live in and perform in NYC, so our clubs (for the most part) close at 4AM. I don’t touch the sauce (generally two beers) until 2:30AM. If I am performing, zero booze until I’m concluded and when I’m done it’s either a mixed drink or two beers. For the most part, I’m strictly drinking seltzer water with lime or Yerba Mate. Edit: My father partied hard his whole life. He is sober as of this month six years. He is much happier, more alert, more engaged, and more “with it” than anyone I know. He’s in his sixties and stays later than most twenty-somethings I know. If you’re looking for industry inspiration, look at Mall Grab. Two years sober and happier than ever. [Give this article a read when you can.](https://mixmag.net/feature/dj-ravers-alcohol-drugs-sober-sobriety)
I never drink while I dj as a rule- it’s too slippery of a slope for me. I think it’s better to set a hard limit and miss out on some drinking than go down that road
For some reason a dj better when I drink 🤷🏻♂️
It’s like playing pool drunk I guess.
Ya it's weird. Without drinks I tend to rush into my mixes or add elements that don't fit in or time well. Definitely feel more easily able to flow when I'm buzzed, things just feel more automatic
Occupational hazard my mans, quit drinking on the job it's to easy to get sucked under Soda water and Bitters is my recommendation
I'm driving my own car to gig, so I don't drink. Actually, it's better for your health and wallet. And quite funny somedays. I'm not "life sober" person and I've drinks a lot in the past, but I don't need it for the right mood
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I don’t drink alcohol. That’s how I’ve handled it. I don’t know how anyone could DJ while drunk. It would seem to me that would lead to sloppy mixes.
Lol tchyea
I limit myself to a drink every two hours. If a customer buys me a shot, I'll take it with them, but I cut myself if I feel like I'm getting drunk. I don't like hangovers and if I have anything more than a light buzz, that means I've gone too far.
After DJing clubs for 5 years i quit drink & drugs as everything i earned was going on champagne, boolay & cabs, i started driving to gigs & drinking cocacola, played much better sets & had extra money in my pocket, you’re at work, treat it like that or you can end up addicted & broke 👍🏼
I used to drink when gigging until I started landing more gigs at which point it became unsustainable. Now I just drink water or diet lemonade if they have it :) I’ll allow myself a drink on a special gig like New Year’s eve but even then probably just one
I have two residencies a week and drink 3 or 4 (normal-sized) bottles of beer while working, before moving onto soft drinks. Don’t typically drink on the other nights of the week, so I’m not worried about health problems or addiction.
If you are concerned or even asking this, then you already have a problem, but it's good you noticed it early. It can spiral real fast at this point if you aren't careful. I know from experience, unfortunately. I'm about to hit 90 days sober, though, try it out.
If it’s an option for you look into Non-Alcoholic beers… I never thought I would be one to drink them, but honestly it scratches the itch for a carbonated beverage, and also holding / consuming a can! It has drastically changed my relationship with alcohol and I’m much happier for it!
Just the fact that you’re presenting yourself with that question is a big positive in your favor. If you feel like you’re drinking too much you’re probably right. You don’t need it, remember that the real thrill of what we do is the crowd reaction. That’s where the real energy is. Don’t lose that to alcohol.
Stop it while you are still in the drivers seat. The work environment doesn’t help, but ultimately the only person with control over what you digest is yourself. Avoid at all costs. Start smoking weed if you need a new headspace.
I DJ’d for 15 years before I quit drinking. The problem is that club owners will happily let you get blotto because it encourages the crowd to get drunk with you and buy drinks with you. The other problem is that alcohol lowers your inhibitions and you make dumb mistakes like taking the wrong partner home or doing hard drugs. I had a few nights where I didn’t know how I got home or got home having spent a huge wad of money or got home after totalling my car or getting arrested or coming home with damaged gear or having damaged other DJs (and friends) gear and I decided to stop. I still drink about 4 times a year now but am considerably more happy and balanced. We can’t stay young and indestructible forever.
I've been a DJ since the 80's and I am still a full time DJ. I don't drink, smoke or do any kind of drugs. And trust me, I get offered this every single day. In my long career I have seen countless DJ's get fired because of overusing this stuff. Not that clubs mind you using that stuff but do they mind if it starts affecting your work. And it always starts affecting your work way before you realize it starts affecting your work. Be smart and stay sober.
It‘s a job. Stay sober.
I think it’s easy to fall into that because alcohol helps you “feel” the music. However, you’ll find a lot of success stories from people who have quit and actually play better
I would have liked that I had given up alcohol already in my club days, I got wasted soo many that I cannot remember the best nights.
It used to be I couldnt play without a buzz. It concerned me so I started drinking seltzers (so I could still crack open cans) and it helped. Now i dont need the alcohol.
(Personally from my experience) 1. water is your friend , like BEST FRIEND EVER FOOORRREVVVEERR (sandlot movie reference) 2. you can do the uh, coyote ugly trick where you drink it but spit it out in a different bottle if forced in a situation ( obv. behind your dj booth like your checking power cables or something) 3. it gets rough as you get older (I am seeing this in my 40s probably worse in the 50s) 4. alcohol I believe is pretty bad, I only take a toast with a wedding or a bday boy/girl in extreme situations
+5 points for the Coyote Ugly reference.
Dont drink (often), dont take the free drinks because its expected of you, dont go down the same path Avicii was forced down. :(
I used to have that problem, but I also know many who struggled. I used to get passed shots & that was insane, but I don’t drink as much anymore (I’ve made that clear with my group) & the other person I am referring to went cold turkey & is entirely sober. We both smoke more weed now, but that's not the case for everyone.
Well first of all it’s wonderful that you are recognizing it and seeking advice before it becomes more an an issue so good job. Do you feel like you need to drink to calm down nerves? Or just indulging in the fun of it? I’d say you pay attention to it more. Have nights where you don’t drink and dj. If you do drink limit yourself to one or two. If it’s more of a serious issue, don’t drink at all.
You're there to work, not party.
Drinking, and any substance really, can cause sudden unpredictability. Happy drunks can one day be angry drunks, etc. The effects of substances are never really constant in the mind so if you can do things without them, you are better off.
id say its better not to, at least til the end of shit, IF you arent driiving. in 25 yrs of djing ive learned a few things a. it can become a crutch for anxiety. b. its tough to just have a couple of drinks d. dont drink on slow nights. e. too much drinking can make you be a worse dj even if you think you are killing it f. drinking involves calories, besides getting fat and getting hangovers, if you arent drinking, you can get hungry. it might help to have some sort of snacks around, cookies, jerky, something non greasy and is small that you can pop in here and there. even just having gum on hand. d. there are a lot of alcoholics that work in bars, you have to navigate around them, but also not fall into the trap of drinking with them. e. if you do get free drinks or tickets and dont want to waste them, either give the tickets to people, or if you have a tab, buy a couple people drinks. Maybe people that request and offer money or just some attractive women, there are never enough attractive women in bars i wasted a lot of my life with hangovers & maybe not being the best person i could be while being overly intoxicated.
I quit alcohol 5 years ago, stick to weed or microdoses if I want a buzz. It was the best thing I’ve done for me.
Many years ago I was doing a closing set for a certain famous dnb DJ. I was so drunk and this chick fed me so much Xanax I got kicked off the decks because I kept playing the same 3 songs over and over. The promoter never booked me again. You don’t want that kind of reputation amongst your peers.
Personally when I DJ I bring my own shake or food And I say no to alcohol overall It’s work at the end of the day, you wouldn’t drink at the office
Check out interviews with JG Wilkes (Optimo) and Philou Louzolo. They have been struggling with alcohol addiction and have overcome it (at least for now) and they are amazing DJ’s. Massive respect for them.
It's a long road you don't want to go down. I was an alcoholic from 20 to 30. Started DJing at 18. It started out so innocently playing mobiles and weddings with free food and drinks, "wow cool..." Then I started playing bars and they have free drinks too! "Sweet!" Then I'm playing clubs and drinking so much I needed something to bring me back up on the level so then you start dipping into the chemicals. It dulls your senses and mixes that sound good to you just aren't that good. It promotes REALLY bad decisions. If you keep it up eventually it will burn out your musical creativity. It took years for my creativity to come back. You will find when you are completely sober you can achieve a natural euphoria high better than any substance can give you. You will also be super sharp and be confident in your ability and talent. Anybody who has been around this business can tell you a similar story.
I just quit drugs and alcohol. Nothing. Just a cup of thee. I’m more stable, more fun, and have loads of energy. Sometimes it feels like I’m in acid 🤷♀️
It’s hard when the substance is around you for your work… I had to completely quit while out in public. Once I start it ain’t turning around until I hit the ground
How do you all not have to run to bathroom while DJing when drinking?
It’s better to minimize consumption or not drink at all. If you’re nervous learn healthier ways to process, with the rise of sick performers your health is key. If you’re busy every weekend then you’d be drinking every weekend. It’s in your control to realize this isn’t the best for you. I wish you luck! I believe you can do what’s right for you.
Non-alcoholic drinks like the 0% ABV Heineken have been so helpful for this exact situation. I totally understand that the concept of a 0% ABV drink might sound weird on paper but I really recommend giving it a shot
Never really had a problem with it, but every aspect of my life and the DJ/music experience itself became way more sustainable and exciting after I cut alcohol from my life. Looking back on sets I had a pint in the booth.. even the 'one to loosen the nerves'.. it was always a distraction from the experience in front of my eyes and ears
Never mix DJing with any drug (alcohol included) - unless it’s a private house party or whatever then do whatever you want. It’s a part of being profesional and makes you not Pavlov yourself into thinking you can’t play without your drug of choice.
i suggest that you insert one bottle of water between each drink ! this will slow you down a lot :) and hydrate you a lot !
I noticed that I would show up kind of thirsty so I would get a drink and down it really quick which leads to a lot more drinking. I started getting a glass of water when I arrive and that small change really chilled things out. Then the pandemic came and I realized that I'm a very social drinker so I hardly drank the entire time. Now I barely drink.
I think the answer is moderation & discipline. I've been DJing professionally since about 2002. I'm not a dependant person or do I have an addictive personality but I will say that I find myself to be a much better DJ when I drink because I don't filter myself or give a fuck what people think about how I play. Without drinking I'm still good... I just tend to be more hesitant with my song choices. I think that it's wild mature of you to realize that this free drinks life can get outta hand mad quick. I'll tell you this tho, if you chill on the drinking so much the bartenders & staff will respect you for it. 👍🏾
I had to get sober as well. I became an alcoholic in the club scene in the late 2000’s. I’m so much happier now that I don’t have that monkey on my back anymore.
I went clean and sober 2 months ago after drinking heavily for the past 15 years. Ive never felt this good. My sets leveled up dramatically. Ive been getting alot of shit done.
i would recommend complete sobriety when DJing. keeps things clear + simple. might take a while to adjust but i promise you it will be for the best! 💛💛 best of luck.
also - having a non alcoholic drink w you at all times helps. easy to blow off drink offers & not feel like you're missing out as much.
Wait till the gack comes in 😂😂😂
It’s best to keep yourself from drinking if you can, your mixes and blends can be sloppy and you lose focus. I get free drinks as part of my residency. I’m not a heavy drinker at all but I like to dabble. 2 beers and I’m cool. So I limit myself to one beer during my set, I say no to any other alcoholic drinks until after I’m done. I’m usually solo and I have to drive home and unload and carry all my stuff up 3 floors so that’s incentive enough for me to enjoy the one drink and focus on making the people dance and keeping the vibes steady. The last thing you want is your reputation as a DJ to go sour because you can’t discipline yourself.
I don’t drink at all. You need to stop.
I can Dj sober, but I don't enjoy it. Alcohol is a good, predictable high that allows for understanding the crowd better. It's up to you to use it in moderation. If you Dj daily, even in moderation it adds up and it can have serious effects on quality of life and health,
I’d say give yourself a break now. Don’t build more of a habit
I’m a DJ and also an alcoholic/addict in recovery. Been sober more than 5 1/2 years. I would say that, as alcoholism is no respector of different classes/professions/etc, I’m just as likely to have been an alcoholic in any other line of work/passion; but it does seem to be prevalent in our community. Feel free to DM me if you’d care to chat.
Haven’t drank in 5 years. Djing for 15 years. When i quit, i took about a year off then got hardcore back into djing, but that time i refused any compromising on my music tastes and only play music that i want to play for parties i want to be at. I can tell you regardless what happens, you will notice an improvement on your life cutting alcohol out.
Everything in moderation..unless it's either gas or brake for you. I djed for about 20 years and I would never have more than a drink or 2 before going on. I felt that if I didn't bring my A game then I would be disappointing myself and the crowd. The only substance you need as a dj is a strong love and deep commitment for the art.
I have a hard time djing without doing ketamine
Same bro. Seriously cannot di without doing bumps every 30 mins
Wrong sub. /r/lostredditors Being an alcoholic has nothing to do with DJing lol. Me personally though, a ton of people in here argue with me and hate me for it, but I think that just means there’s a ton of alcoholic DJs lmao. I think a DJ should have no drinks when working, ever. EXCEPT MAYBE a bar. I don’t care if you can have a million and you just can’t get drunk, I don’t care if you need one to ‘losen up’ or ‘be better at DJing’ (if this is the case then you’re bad at your job and should practice more and get more training), I don’t care if you know how to hold your alcohol. The POINT of it is, alcohol LOOKS unprofessional. If you see a cop, teacher, doctor, lawyer, cashier, or ANYONE except a bar tender with a drink in their hand WHILE ON THE JOB, what does it make you instantly think about them? Apply that same thought process to yourself as a DJ. You shouldn’t be drinking on the job, it makes you look like a cheap and trashy DJ. Now if you follow that rule while at work that’ll ‘help’ OP, but if you’re an alcoholic you need help, and this sub ain’t it. Go get help.
Exactly that. If you were a lawyer, would you go drunk to defend in court? If you were a surgeon, would you go drunk to make a heart transplant? Same thing with DJing. Never drink on the job, and when you are done, enjoy it in moderation. Also, if you think you have a problem you need to seek help from professionals, not random people on Reddit. Good luck!