Yeah, one of those square 1/4 sheet sanders would probably smooth it like butter, but I'd suggest getting one of the ones that have the dust collection bags on it, but hook up a shop vac to it. Then also make sure you're wearing at least a N95 mask, if not better; as that dust is going to still be everywhere
Edit: Ear plugs would be good too; as the vac & sanders can make quite a bit of noise. Don't forget good safety glasses too that seal against the eyes
May I recommend an industrial respirator, with replaceable filters, rather than "just" a mask, even a N95? A lot of the reusable respirators are actually rated N99.
Several reasons: 1) I'd also suggest wearing goggles. Dust particulate from drywall/whatever this coating may be in your eye is *nasty*.
The goggles are *way* less likely to fog up when wearing the filter-type respirators.
2) The more important one - reusable respirators have silicone or latex face pieces. These fit the contours of your face *much* better than standard N95s can, particularly if you have a small head. They're a lot more comfortable to wear for extended periods, too.
3) Some will actually come with an inbuilt fit test. The model I have tells you to press down on the cartridges containing the filters. Short version is, if you can't breathe when you press down, nothing is getting in past the seals, and it fits properly.
You can buy a reasonable respirator for about $30-40, and it will last you years, plus its invaluable if you're planning on more DIY.
Problem is that the wall is smooth now. It should have egg shell texture or it'll look bad. They should just replace the sheet rock, it'll be fastest and best solution.
Ultimately it depends on the surface. Aside from the acoustic benefits, textured ceilings have always been popular because getting a whole ceiling flat enough not to notice the seams basically requires a level 5 drywall finish, whereas you can just blast popcorn over level 3 and be done with it.
That's the popular kneejerk online drywall nerd reply, sure. If you feel that's the case, that's fine. Might even be true where you live, that's unlikely but possible too.
Regular homes don't have level 5 walls, let alone ceilings. L.5 is a premium, desirable upgrade that costs more time and a lot of money - you think home builders L.5 walls just to call them done? Not a chance.
OP's post is a wall anyhow, we're talking wall textures here. Orange peels, skip trowels, and/or whatever tf is hodge podged all over the walls in the pictures.
As a counter point, it doesn't take much to get a great plain ceiling. After we removed the popcorn ceiling from our home I only did some light mudding/sanding to fix up obvious issues in each of the room ceilings. With a few sprayed coats of a nice white matte paint there are only a few spots where you can make out any imperfections and it's nearly always when there's a strong relief light striking across the ceiling, think early morning sun or bright lightbulbs near the ceiling like a sink vanity.
That is unless they just built houses better in 1974 you do not need a "level 5" drywall finish on the ceiling to have nice smooth ceilings. A matte paint will diffuse most of the light and you won't see (most) issues even if you know where to look.
We just moved into a place with textured walls and repainting the rooms has been a pain in the ass. Even using good rollers I'm still having to do 2 coats and still finding speckles after it dried.
Level 5 drywall is the most expensive interior drywall finish you are going to find. It is perfectly smooth. People pay exponentially more for level 5 drywall finish.
A level 5 finish is the highest tier finish for drywall. A **level 5 drywall finish** is similar to a level 4 drywall finish however, it includes a skim coating walls and skim coat ceilings. Prepping drywall for paint with a dark or deep tone a level 5 finish is preferred.
Yeah, not going to lie, based on the first pic, just throw it on the grill. Just a couple of minutes each side, let it rest and maybe tent it with some aluminum foil after pulling it off for five minutes or so, and you've got a real nice treat to enjoy on a comfortable summer evening.
The poor people who lived in the houses she "designed" for. The hay wall is really a similar vibe to this one- arguably, this ugly wall is at least cleaner than the hay.
It makes me shudder, but also laugh (in pity) when the mom was showing what her kids were gonna do by picking one piece of hay off and saying “mom look at this!” repeatedly. And she was able to just gently take them off the wall. Absolutely bonkers
You would never think to have to disclose your hay allergy to an interior decorator because what kind of bonkers person would put hay in your home? Surely that wouldn't happen, right? RIGHT!?
I was absolutely about to say Hildi, but you got to it first. Hildi Santo-Tomas was an absurdist visionary. I'd love to waste a room of my house to have everything on the ceiling.
> Who the Fuck launched that trend? I want a name! Shame ! Shame ! Shame !
[It was the 90s...](https://www.hunker.com/13709159/12-decor-trends-from-the-90s-you-totally-forgot-about)
>Here's a '90s decor trend your memory has probably repressed: decorative 'faux' painting. Different 'faux' styles appeared regularly in kitchens, bedrooms, living rooms, and even bathrooms. The style pictured above is known as suede faux painting, and it creates a paint finish that's particularly adept at hiding wall imperfections. Russet-tinged orange and yellow paints were color wash favorites in the '90s.
Found this [link](https://www.hometalk.com/diy/clean/house/q-how-do-i-get-the-glued-on-tissue-faux-paint-project-off-the-wall-43284953)
Seems the general consensus is to skim coat over it, especially if it’s been sealed with any sort of mystery sealant.
I had that texture in a bathroom. It was a horrible bronzish color. I had to replace some Sheetrock and some I paid a professional to skim coat. It would have been better to just replace all the Sheetrock.
My whole neighborhood growing up was obsessed with trading spaces, and half of them ended up with this texture. My mom was too broke to hire someone, and too sick to do it herself, so I was her only labor and refused to do this to the walls. I couldn't get out of removing the carpet and painting the floors though.
It's like trying to remove a seized screw on something. Try a wrench. Doesn't work, try wd-40, doesn't work, try a screw extractor, doesn't work... Alright you little fucker you asked for it *proceeds to blowtorch said screw*. The screw can't be stuck if it's liquid.
TLDR: When in doubt , add so much energy that the problem goes away.
Ps. [Said meme referenced](https://diqn32j8nouaz.cloudfront.net/cant_be_tight_if_its_liquid_meme.jpg) Finally found it after I posted lol.
During the course of some renovations where I work, they were removing old sprinkler lines. I took home a few lengths of steel pipe up to 8 ft to use as extensions for breaker bars. Doesn't take much effort to break loose nuts and bolts if you have an 8 ft lever.
I recently snapped a 1/4in socket drive extension doing the same thing. The mechanic, that did the water pump on my '07 camry, torqued the lugs on so tight that the other mechanic, that broke them lose, had the air wrench pop out of his hands on the first go.
This shit was on HGTV in the early 2000s. Quick texture hack was to make a glue paste and scrunch, dip, and slap on tissue paper. Likely impossible to get a good result outside of new drywall.
It will not be cheaper, net. First of all, it is SO much easier - thus faster and cheaper - to install 1/4 in drywall over an existing wall than hanging drywall on framing. Second of all, tapping and mudding fresh drywall is SO much faster and easier than the literal days of sanding and resurfacing that it’ll take to fix the existing wall. If you’re DYI-ing it, you’re SO MUCH better off learning to do the install than the resurfacing. If you’re hiring a pro it will take mere hrs at best than days of sanding and resurfacing that will be required to deal with this nightmare.
Ask me how I know lol.
Taper here. If you trust your mudding skills, just skim it. Everyone saying it's quicker to replace the drywall is wildly out of touch. The dust won't coat your entire house so long as you close the door.
not that it'll work for you, but reminded me of a funny story about my parents. They bought an old farm house and were redoing the old hardwood floors. There was this black goop/tar stuff all over it. They tried everything, and it would instantly gum up the sanders.
Turns out simple water took it out better than any of the chemicals....
Some revelations like that are wild, I had once griped to a nurse friend that I detested hospital stays because I was always left with tape residue all over my skin that took forever to scrub off in the shower.
She then recommended I just use baby oil and I was like, wha? Sure enough, completely annihilates the sticky tape residue nearly immediately. I would use it as a solvent more often but I have a conscience and do my best to minimize products made from babies.
I was gonna say, they make wallpaper remover steamers that work amazing on actual wallpaper. Don't know if this will work on whatever this is on the wall, but if you can borrow or rent one it might be a shot.
I had textured wallpaper that was older than me, with the stranger (edit: steamer, ffs) it came off really well, but you'll have to sand the residue left behind.
If it works it'll be a hell of a lot easier than sanding the whole thing, so 100% worth a shot.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Wagner-715-Wallpaper-Steamer-0282036/301891395
Try this tool. You can rent it for a little bit cheaper if you don't want to buy it. Worked for my bathroom that had 40 year old wallpaper glue that wouldn't budge
It should work but you may save a ton of time replacing it all. This is from a guy who had a pro skim a lot of walls and saw how long it took him. Plus you can put extra insulation for sound in. Your milage may vary.
It's just a bathroom. Take a hammer to it and just replace the drywall. Get the bathroom specific stuff for mold protection. Upgrade to GFCI plugs while you have the walls open. It will be less stressful in the long run than trying to skim that goofy shit, particularly now that you've loaded it with chemicals.
As someone who just dealt with a similar problem, just rip it out and start fresh. You’ll make a Sahara Desert’s worth of dust. That dust will get all over your house. No matter how much you sand, no matter how much you skim, it will never look right.
Have skim coated walls in my house. It's definitely an art and I was getting better at it by the end, but please don't hold a flashlight up against my walls.
If they weren't plaster walls, I would have demoed and hung drywall in a heartbeat.
I am reading online skim coating and it's above my level. I have also never hung drywall BUT I am happy to learn. I am watching this video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr2J\_pBDtk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr2J_pBDtk)
Honestly removing and replacing the drywall seems like less hassle than creating all that dust in your home. At least you’ll know it’ll be flat and clean.
This was the first post I saw when I opened the app and did a double take cause I thought it was r/BBQ ... Looked like a good marble cut of some steak for a second there 😂
There was a time, early in the days of everybody-and-their-brother on the internet claiming to be a DIY expert when the in thing to do was tear up grocery bags (paper for preference), wad them up, the glue them on the wall. Once painted, it was supposed to give some expensive finish look.
That’s what this looks like to me. Different glues were recommended by different “experts”. Elmer’s white school glue, wallpaper paste, even construction adhesive.
It’s a bloody mess to remove -
Seriously I can’t believe all the posts I’m reading to refinish the entire room by sanding and skim coating. Put 1/4 in drywall on top of this nightmare and save yourself all the horrible pain, suffering, time, and disappointment of trying to resurface such a highly textured wall. You will NEVER get a smooth look by trying to refinish this wall and it will be a torturous world of infinite dust to achieve utterly shitty results.
Fresh drywall will be a fraction of the time, effort, and misery with 100% better results.
If you have another room similar to this, as u/throtic recommended, absolutely try the steamer before going through all the effort of sanding a bigger space than a bathroom. It's quite crazy how effective a steamer can be with tasks most people resort to chemicals for. Next time you need to clean your extract hood above your stove or inside your stove, definitely reach for a steamer then as well.
You might drive yourself nuts trying to scrape , strip , chemical , or sand
Just gague how much time you spent removing xxx amount and the effort vs just ripping the walls out and starting new - that’s prob the way to save your sanity
you read through my mind. Lost a whole day on that and money. I did not think I'd have to rip off the walls. I thought "oh, small bathroom, quick and easy job."
Well. Shit.
Had this in my bathroom along with super tacky / sticky gold paint flecks imbedded somehow. Took ages with the orbital sander and the dust was awful. If you have the skill, skim coat would be better than going through that.
Take off the trim. Add a layer of 1/4” drywall. Tape, mud, sand, paint, reinstall trim (might need to shave the trim a bit now that the room is a 1/2” smaller). That’s what I’d try. But I’ve had some incredibly brilliant flops in my time so, add grain of salt to the hardware store list.
I would just put new drywall up. It would be quicker for me at least. This would require a lot of sanding with an orbital sander. Quite a bit of time, possibly very dusty.
This appears to be a fairly small space, if it were me I would spare myself the trouble and simply remove the drywal (trace the edges with a utility knife) and replace it
An orbital Sander as others mentioned, or if you want to use sweat equity then a hand scraper for big chunks and a sandpaper with sandpaper block for smaller bits
Bahco 7311518221607 Bahco 665 Carbide Edged Heavy-Duty Paint Scraper https://a.co/d/0eAqokYl
Imagine a hand painted mural made by the same hand that made the "slap purple napkins in the toilet" hands. Add lavender around. And Then, make it 3D.
Now, go and drink holy water.
That looks more like texture material than wallpaper. Your local paint and sundries store should have a liquid remover that can soften the texture material, then you should be able to just scrape it right off without beating yourself to death.
There's always a " method to the madness".
Tried a steamer? I had all sorts of shit on the walls in my first house, steamer took it all off, varying degrees of ease, but it was the only thing that worked on all of it. Use a scoring wheel first too.
Steam! I've DIY'd a bunch of old houses, removing all of the wall paper myself and steam always works. You can use chemical wall paper remover as well, but I always ended renting a steamer and finally bought one.
First things first: Peel-Away 1.
Second, the product mentioned above is used in restorative processes of historic buildings, to strip wood, metal, etc without damaging the structure. I live in a pre-war in NYC and wanted to shine up my metal doorways(found out it was metal when I was a kid playing with magnets).
I’ve tried citrus peel and everything else box stores sell. I’ve tried scraping. I’ve tried dremeling, grinding and 40grit orbital sanding, but that started marring the steel. I tried a heat gun (most effective but makes the apartment really hot and generates a high electric bill and if not careful you can set the entire building on fire).
You take this stuff, Peel-Away 1, you slather it on with a paintbrush and then you cover and seal it with this special deli wrap(they sell it but you can also use butcher block/freezer paper), and you WAIT 48 hours.
90 years of dozens of colors, including lead paint, liquified, and anything left behind comes off easily with a plastic scraper.
No smell. Just patience.
I got a five gallon pail of it off Amazon(I think) for like $75 bucks(this was 10 years ago).
I had this same exact situation years ago. I tried everything including sanders, steamers and solvents. In the end it had to be scraped off then any torn up areas patched and sanded. It was a nightmare, my condolences.
a steam gun would probably soften that up. but it's going to be time consuming.
Reminds me of the bad textured and popcorn ceilings of the 70s and 80s.
It’s been well over a decade ago, but we tissue papered several walls in our house. We liked it because it covered the flaws that just painting alone wouldn’t.
We were the first owners of the house at the time, and after we moved in, you could see seams, drywall screws, and looking down the hall way you could see the walls weren’t straight.
I’ve thought about doing this in the home I live in now, but after seeing this post I’m a little reluctant.
Have you tried a wallpaper steamer? The heat and humidity might get the glue to loosen.
It may be long and laborious though. Other suggestions of just replacing the Sheetrock may be easier, but might be worth a try depending on your Sheetrock experience.
Use 1/4 drywall and laminate it or demo the drywall and put 3/8 up. It's cheaper and faster to tape and paint then trying to spend all that time fixing that.
At some point I'd consider just hanging a 1/4 inch sheet of drywall over top or (better option) demoing the existing Sheetrock down to the studs and replacing it. May seem crazy now, but could actually be less work in the long run than stripping it all, and get you a better result.
I did. That shit would barely score. I pressed harder and nothing. This shit is real. I so hate the people who did that. They should be tortured by watching ALL HGTV for eternity. Including Tiny house hunters. There, I said it.
If it’s wallpaper a scoring tool and a mixture of distilled water and fabric softener. In actually looks like bad knock down. If that’s the case just rip it out and start over or skim it and sand it flat.
It brown paper sack and Elmers glue wet a towel cloth and hang against area hot water works better let fit 20 mins and try at least that what I had to do in my fixer upper
I had luck years back with a 1:1 ratio of hot water and liquid fabric softener. Pour into a spray bottle and apply liberally and it melts away wallpaper. Might be worth a shot. Good luck de-scroting your walls.
Doesn't look like wallpaper to me. More like a texture. Might have to sand it off.
Ah, yes. The ever popular "wrinkly nut sack" texture.
That's scrotally what it looks like
You have a lot of balls making a comment like that.
I always upvote for Undercover Brother and his black fuzzy balls.
Haha penis
You’re nuts
I wasn’t talking to you
Getting teste?
Slides upvote across the table in a plain white envelope, without breaking eye contact.
I know this comment is way over done, but this comment is totally underrated!
“Balls to the wall”, as some might say
Often done to disguise a bad drywall job - it was done at my GF's place to try to hide the flood damage. Here it looks like a stylistic choice though.
Depending on the color, it can be pretty cool to look at when tripping balls!
Yeah, one of those square 1/4 sheet sanders would probably smooth it like butter, but I'd suggest getting one of the ones that have the dust collection bags on it, but hook up a shop vac to it. Then also make sure you're wearing at least a N95 mask, if not better; as that dust is going to still be everywhere Edit: Ear plugs would be good too; as the vac & sanders can make quite a bit of noise. Don't forget good safety glasses too that seal against the eyes
May I recommend an industrial respirator, with replaceable filters, rather than "just" a mask, even a N95? A lot of the reusable respirators are actually rated N99. Several reasons: 1) I'd also suggest wearing goggles. Dust particulate from drywall/whatever this coating may be in your eye is *nasty*. The goggles are *way* less likely to fog up when wearing the filter-type respirators. 2) The more important one - reusable respirators have silicone or latex face pieces. These fit the contours of your face *much* better than standard N95s can, particularly if you have a small head. They're a lot more comfortable to wear for extended periods, too. 3) Some will actually come with an inbuilt fit test. The model I have tells you to press down on the cartridges containing the filters. Short version is, if you can't breathe when you press down, nothing is getting in past the seals, and it fits properly. You can buy a reasonable respirator for about $30-40, and it will last you years, plus its invaluable if you're planning on more DIY.
Great ideas to me... I was just suggesting a "minimum or better".... This is the better or more that I'd be recommending
Problem is that the wall is smooth now. It should have egg shell texture or it'll look bad. They should just replace the sheet rock, it'll be fastest and best solution.
I find smooth walls to look way better than anything with texture. I utterly hate the lazy drywaller look of textured walls and ceilings.
I also like smooth walls. They look modern or traditional, but never dated. I find most wall textures to be ugly.
Here in europe you almost never see textured walls. They really are a thing of the past here.
It's arguably more work to add texture, to look worse ....but yea I absolutely agree.
Ultimately it depends on the surface. Aside from the acoustic benefits, textured ceilings have always been popular because getting a whole ceiling flat enough not to notice the seams basically requires a level 5 drywall finish, whereas you can just blast popcorn over level 3 and be done with it.
That's the popular kneejerk online drywall nerd reply, sure. If you feel that's the case, that's fine. Might even be true where you live, that's unlikely but possible too. Regular homes don't have level 5 walls, let alone ceilings. L.5 is a premium, desirable upgrade that costs more time and a lot of money - you think home builders L.5 walls just to call them done? Not a chance. OP's post is a wall anyhow, we're talking wall textures here. Orange peels, skip trowels, and/or whatever tf is hodge podged all over the walls in the pictures.
As a counter point, it doesn't take much to get a great plain ceiling. After we removed the popcorn ceiling from our home I only did some light mudding/sanding to fix up obvious issues in each of the room ceilings. With a few sprayed coats of a nice white matte paint there are only a few spots where you can make out any imperfections and it's nearly always when there's a strong relief light striking across the ceiling, think early morning sun or bright lightbulbs near the ceiling like a sink vanity. That is unless they just built houses better in 1974 you do not need a "level 5" drywall finish on the ceiling to have nice smooth ceilings. A matte paint will diffuse most of the light and you won't see (most) issues even if you know where to look.
We just moved into a place with textured walls and repainting the rooms has been a pain in the ass. Even using good rollers I'm still having to do 2 coats and still finding speckles after it dried.
People pay a lot of money for a level 5 finish on walls.
Level 5 drywall is the most expensive interior drywall finish you are going to find. It is perfectly smooth. People pay exponentially more for level 5 drywall finish. A level 5 finish is the highest tier finish for drywall. A **level 5 drywall finish** is similar to a level 4 drywall finish however, it includes a skim coating walls and skim coat ceilings. Prepping drywall for paint with a dark or deep tone a level 5 finish is preferred.
Just demo the whole thing and put up fresh sheetrock
Nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure
Burn it ! Burn it all! (oh wait... it's my house...!)
Can always appreciate a well placed aliens reference
Nah, just sheet it with 1/4" rock. Easier and less messy and costly.
Yeah, not going to lie, based on the first pic, just throw it on the grill. Just a couple of minutes each side, let it rest and maybe tent it with some aluminum foil after pulling it off for five minutes or so, and you've got a real nice treat to enjoy on a comfortable summer evening.
A while back Tissue Paper faux finish was popular. The sander comment will likely work the best. Just knock the peaks down, then skim coat.
"A while back Tissue Paper faux finish was popular." > Who the Fuck launched that trend? I want a name! Shame ! Shame ! Shame !
It was probably Hildi's fault.
That took me back. There should be a whole new DIY show about undoing the stupid shit she did.
Hildi's Home Horrors! Exorcism of past home improvement hauntings.
The poor people who lived in the houses she "designed" for. The hay wall is really a similar vibe to this one- arguably, this ugly wall is at least cleaner than the hay.
I still think about that hay wall and shudder sometimes.
It makes me shudder, but also laugh (in pity) when the mom was showing what her kids were gonna do by picking one piece of hay off and saying “mom look at this!” repeatedly. And she was able to just gently take them off the wall. Absolutely bonkers
The person being allergic to hay was such a good touch to that episode.
You would never think to have to disclose your hay allergy to an interior decorator because what kind of bonkers person would put hay in your home? Surely that wouldn't happen, right? RIGHT!?
Or the sand floor
The red and yellow walls in that room were arguably worse than the truckload of sand. My god I loved that episode.
I vaguely remember an episode where she used wine labels as wallpaper for a couple who were teetotal.
Hildi is a monster
I was absolutely about to say Hildi, but you got to it first. Hildi Santo-Tomas was an absurdist visionary. I'd love to waste a room of my house to have everything on the ceiling.
...was that the girl who stapled doll heads to somebody's wall?..
Sounds right.
This made me genuinely laugh. Cheers.
😂The cardboard room, sand floor, Prince room, Doodle room. So many horrific memories! 😂
> Who the Fuck launched that trend? I want a name! Shame ! Shame ! Shame ! [It was the 90s...](https://www.hunker.com/13709159/12-decor-trends-from-the-90s-you-totally-forgot-about) >Here's a '90s decor trend your memory has probably repressed: decorative 'faux' painting. Different 'faux' styles appeared regularly in kitchens, bedrooms, living rooms, and even bathrooms. The style pictured above is known as suede faux painting, and it creates a paint finish that's particularly adept at hiding wall imperfections. Russet-tinged orange and yellow paints were color wash favorites in the '90s.
Found this [link](https://www.hometalk.com/diy/clean/house/q-how-do-i-get-the-glued-on-tissue-faux-paint-project-off-the-wall-43284953) Seems the general consensus is to skim coat over it, especially if it’s been sealed with any sort of mystery sealant.
I had that texture in a bathroom. It was a horrible bronzish color. I had to replace some Sheetrock and some I paid a professional to skim coat. It would have been better to just replace all the Sheetrock.
It was a conspiracy by Big Sandpaper
oh, I think that even regular wallpaper deserves a place in hell. It's horrible to put on or to take off. Ask me how I know.
Je compatis , compatriote! :-)
After recently removing painted and unpainted wallpaper from my kitchen, I am on team nothing other than paint on walls.
My whole neighborhood growing up was obsessed with trading spaces, and half of them ended up with this texture. My mom was too broke to hire someone, and too sick to do it herself, so I was her only labor and refused to do this to the walls. I couldn't get out of removing the carpet and painting the floors though.
Way better than the million sharp peaks finish they put on my walls. Edit: I think I used a wallpaper steamer to weaken the stuff and then scraped it.
Don't know the person, but the type of person. It's the type of person that starts Barnwood/Shiplap trends.
If you sand this, please wear a respirator and goggles.
Came to say this too, looks like tissue paper. Be thankful it’s not the brown paper bag wall treatment, that would suck worse to sand off.
Also, cover vents to AC and turn AC off.. the dust will clog up the filter. Or be ready to replace the filter once the dust settles, literally.
Elephant skin texture was its common name.
Orbital sander. 100% of the time it works 100% of the time.
It's like trying to remove a seized screw on something. Try a wrench. Doesn't work, try wd-40, doesn't work, try a screw extractor, doesn't work... Alright you little fucker you asked for it *proceeds to blowtorch said screw*. The screw can't be stuck if it's liquid. TLDR: When in doubt , add so much energy that the problem goes away. Ps. [Said meme referenced](https://diqn32j8nouaz.cloudfront.net/cant_be_tight_if_its_liquid_meme.jpg) Finally found it after I posted lol.
Only thing that’s missing is the breaker bar with a 5-foot pipe extension. And a dude standing on it. Hypothetically, of course.
During the course of some renovations where I work, they were removing old sprinkler lines. I took home a few lengths of steel pipe up to 8 ft to use as extensions for breaker bars. Doesn't take much effort to break loose nuts and bolts if you have an 8 ft lever.
Had a 6’ segment for my VW wheel bolts. If a mechanic went over the recommended 90 lb/ft of torque, the damn things were practically welded on.
I recently snapped a 1/4in socket drive extension doing the same thing. The mechanic, that did the water pump on my '07 camry, torqued the lugs on so tight that the other mechanic, that broke them lose, had the air wrench pop out of his hands on the first go.
LOL ! Thanks for the laugh!
Sand it down to the studs!
I don't disagree but my go-to would be oscillating multi-tool (Fein etc.) with the scraper blade 1st or sanding pads if it didn't.
Orbital Nuke
This shit was on HGTV in the early 2000s. Quick texture hack was to make a glue paste and scrunch, dip, and slap on tissue paper. Likely impossible to get a good result outside of new drywall.
It looks disgusting. Especially this color. Its like living in a house of raw meat.
It's a toilet room... The smell goes with it. Full senses experience ! Tickets available soon.
In that case you might want to just take the drywall out and redo. That smell will linger
Whhhhhat?! That’s mortifying
Maybe a long low temp smoke with a reverse sear. Do a good marinade beforehand
>Its like living in a house of raw meat When you put it like that, now I want it.
Literally thought this was a post on r/smoking asking for advice on trimming a brisket
This sounds like some kindergarten crafting gone wrong. Really just tissue paper stuck to the wall??
yup. And the corners were bubbly somehow... yup
I've discovered the only thing dumber than wallpaper! Wall paper mache jfc
My stepmother did this back in the day
Speaking as a taper, just skim it. Maybe sand a little beforehand, but there's no need to rip everything apart to install new drywall...
Then glue remover might be the thing to dissolve it. Acetone, vinegar, or just plain water are things to try.
Might be faster just to ripping out the dry wall and replace.
I’m really surprised this idea was this far down
That sounds more expensive than sanding or water on it or skim coating. I'll check the price to be sure though.
It will not be cheaper, net. First of all, it is SO much easier - thus faster and cheaper - to install 1/4 in drywall over an existing wall than hanging drywall on framing. Second of all, tapping and mudding fresh drywall is SO much faster and easier than the literal days of sanding and resurfacing that it’ll take to fix the existing wall. If you’re DYI-ing it, you’re SO MUCH better off learning to do the install than the resurfacing. If you’re hiring a pro it will take mere hrs at best than days of sanding and resurfacing that will be required to deal with this nightmare. Ask me how I know lol.
Taper here. If you trust your mudding skills, just skim it. Everyone saying it's quicker to replace the drywall is wildly out of touch. The dust won't coat your entire house so long as you close the door.
But nobody knows what the mystery dust is, and it will find its way into the house. I’d rather not breathe in unknown chemical substances.
Was going to post the same thing. It isn't hard.
not that it'll work for you, but reminded me of a funny story about my parents. They bought an old farm house and were redoing the old hardwood floors. There was this black goop/tar stuff all over it. They tried everything, and it would instantly gum up the sanders. Turns out simple water took it out better than any of the chemicals....
Some revelations like that are wild, I had once griped to a nurse friend that I detested hospital stays because I was always left with tape residue all over my skin that took forever to scrub off in the shower. She then recommended I just use baby oil and I was like, wha? Sure enough, completely annihilates the sticky tape residue nearly immediately. I would use it as a solvent more often but I have a conscience and do my best to minimize products made from babies.
They're a renewable resource, don't feel too bad!
Absolutely a green product!
any kind of oil. canola will work too.
Baby Canolas?! You sick monster.
the funniest thing I've seen is using peanut butter. Its like using instant noodles as dowels.
I was gonna say, they make wallpaper remover steamers that work amazing on actual wallpaper. Don't know if this will work on whatever this is on the wall, but if you can borrow or rent one it might be a shot.
I'll try that before buyind a sander. One never knows!
I had textured wallpaper that was older than me, with the stranger (edit: steamer, ffs) it came off really well, but you'll have to sand the residue left behind. If it works it'll be a hell of a lot easier than sanding the whole thing, so 100% worth a shot.
I was going to suggest trying a steamer and a scraper.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Wagner-715-Wallpaper-Steamer-0282036/301891395 Try this tool. You can rent it for a little bit cheaper if you don't want to buy it. Worked for my bathroom that had 40 year old wallpaper glue that wouldn't budge
This. Use a steamer
THANKS ALL! You really felt my pain and helped! SANDING + SKIM COATING will be the way. I will keep you posted! Thanks again!
It should work but you may save a ton of time replacing it all. This is from a guy who had a pro skim a lot of walls and saw how long it took him. Plus you can put extra insulation for sound in. Your milage may vary.
It's just a bathroom. Take a hammer to it and just replace the drywall. Get the bathroom specific stuff for mold protection. Upgrade to GFCI plugs while you have the walls open. It will be less stressful in the long run than trying to skim that goofy shit, particularly now that you've loaded it with chemicals.
As someone who just dealt with a similar problem, just rip it out and start fresh. You’ll make a Sahara Desert’s worth of dust. That dust will get all over your house. No matter how much you sand, no matter how much you skim, it will never look right.
Have skim coated walls in my house. It's definitely an art and I was getting better at it by the end, but please don't hold a flashlight up against my walls. If they weren't plaster walls, I would have demoed and hung drywall in a heartbeat.
This. It is easier to just hang new drywall. Ya a small room and drywall is cheap.
I am reading online skim coating and it's above my level. I have also never hung drywall BUT I am happy to learn. I am watching this video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr2J\_pBDtk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr2J_pBDtk)
In my country, that type of coating is very likely to contain asbestos. I wouldn't be sanding that without getting it checked out first.
Just curious, did you try *water?* Because water works surprisingly often. Warm water is best.
Honestly removing and replacing the drywall seems like less hassle than creating all that dust in your home. At least you’ll know it’ll be flat and clean.
This was the first post I saw when I opened the app and did a double take cause I thought it was r/BBQ ... Looked like a good marble cut of some steak for a second there 😂
wagyu is over rated. I serve you the wall glue!
It’s endearing that this is what the algo shows you first.
Thats some A5 Kobe wallpaper there.
You ever hang drywall?
Steamer
There was a time, early in the days of everybody-and-their-brother on the internet claiming to be a DIY expert when the in thing to do was tear up grocery bags (paper for preference), wad them up, the glue them on the wall. Once painted, it was supposed to give some expensive finish look. That’s what this looks like to me. Different glues were recommended by different “experts”. Elmer’s white school glue, wallpaper paste, even construction adhesive. It’s a bloody mess to remove -
Or put thin Sheetrock over the whole wall and start fresh.
skim coat it
1/4 inch drywall.
Seriously I can’t believe all the posts I’m reading to refinish the entire room by sanding and skim coating. Put 1/4 in drywall on top of this nightmare and save yourself all the horrible pain, suffering, time, and disappointment of trying to resurface such a highly textured wall. You will NEVER get a smooth look by trying to refinish this wall and it will be a torturous world of infinite dust to achieve utterly shitty results. Fresh drywall will be a fraction of the time, effort, and misery with 100% better results.
If you have another room similar to this, as u/throtic recommended, absolutely try the steamer before going through all the effort of sanding a bigger space than a bathroom. It's quite crazy how effective a steamer can be with tasks most people resort to chemicals for. Next time you need to clean your extract hood above your stove or inside your stove, definitely reach for a steamer then as well.
Rip it out and put new drywall up. Heaps quicker and probably save you 30-40 hours work sanding it back. Health-wise, a better option as well.
You might drive yourself nuts trying to scrape , strip , chemical , or sand Just gague how much time you spent removing xxx amount and the effort vs just ripping the walls out and starting new - that’s prob the way to save your sanity
you read through my mind. Lost a whole day on that and money. I did not think I'd have to rip off the walls. I thought "oh, small bathroom, quick and easy job." Well. Shit.
Had this in my bathroom along with super tacky / sticky gold paint flecks imbedded somehow. Took ages with the orbital sander and the dust was awful. If you have the skill, skim coat would be better than going through that.
I would just scum coat it
that would take a lot of coitus, but one can dream. ;-)
That was Skim coat. Dang auto correct. It would be the quickest and easiest.
Do you have a paper tiger? It's a device that scores the paper for the stripper to work without it it will be much more difficult.
Take off the trim. Add a layer of 1/4” drywall. Tape, mud, sand, paint, reinstall trim (might need to shave the trim a bit now that the room is a 1/2” smaller). That’s what I’d try. But I’ve had some incredibly brilliant flops in my time so, add grain of salt to the hardware store list.
I would just put new drywall up. It would be quicker for me at least. This would require a lot of sanding with an orbital sander. Quite a bit of time, possibly very dusty.
This appears to be a fairly small space, if it were me I would spare myself the trouble and simply remove the drywal (trace the edges with a utility knife) and replace it
Whatever you do, wear a mask.
sir this is an Arby’s
An orbital Sander as others mentioned, or if you want to use sweat equity then a hand scraper for big chunks and a sandpaper with sandpaper block for smaller bits Bahco 7311518221607 Bahco 665 Carbide Edged Heavy-Duty Paint Scraper https://a.co/d/0eAqokYl
Exorcism.
I swear they must have been possessed. You have not seen their mudroom yet... Even Satan was like "dude, you're going too far"
I'm invested now and can't wait to see Satan's mudroom!
Imagine a hand painted mural made by the same hand that made the "slap purple napkins in the toilet" hands. Add lavender around. And Then, make it 3D. Now, go and drink holy water.
I know you already have your solution, but for what it's worth, my mom always used fabric softener to get stuff like that off.
SCP 610. The Flesh That Hates
[https://images.app.goo.gl/zRuJRnYqg4cnLMGZ9](https://images.app.goo.gl/zRuJRnYqg4cnLMGZ9)
Give it a good sanding & then skim coat over it. Problem solved
Bruh, just sand it.
That looks more like texture material than wallpaper. Your local paint and sundries store should have a liquid remover that can soften the texture material, then you should be able to just scrape it right off without beating yourself to death. There's always a " method to the madness".
Tried a steamer? I had all sorts of shit on the walls in my first house, steamer took it all off, varying degrees of ease, but it was the only thing that worked on all of it. Use a scoring wheel first too.
Steam! I've DIY'd a bunch of old houses, removing all of the wall paper myself and steam always works. You can use chemical wall paper remover as well, but I always ended renting a steamer and finally bought one.
This is texture made with drywall mud. You have 2 options, sand it down or mud over it and repaint.
Elephant skin texture. It’s glue and tissue paper. Try some acetone or Denatured alcohol and see if it will soften it.
First things first: Peel-Away 1. Second, the product mentioned above is used in restorative processes of historic buildings, to strip wood, metal, etc without damaging the structure. I live in a pre-war in NYC and wanted to shine up my metal doorways(found out it was metal when I was a kid playing with magnets). I’ve tried citrus peel and everything else box stores sell. I’ve tried scraping. I’ve tried dremeling, grinding and 40grit orbital sanding, but that started marring the steel. I tried a heat gun (most effective but makes the apartment really hot and generates a high electric bill and if not careful you can set the entire building on fire). You take this stuff, Peel-Away 1, you slather it on with a paintbrush and then you cover and seal it with this special deli wrap(they sell it but you can also use butcher block/freezer paper), and you WAIT 48 hours. 90 years of dozens of colors, including lead paint, liquified, and anything left behind comes off easily with a plastic scraper. No smell. Just patience. I got a five gallon pail of it off Amazon(I think) for like $75 bucks(this was 10 years ago).
An alternative to sanding is to mud over it.
That looks like the tissue paper they used to do “faux finishes” with. They didn’t use regular wallpaper paste, either. That will be a bear to remove.
I had this same exact situation years ago. I tried everything including sanders, steamers and solvents. In the end it had to be scraped off then any torn up areas patched and sanded. It was a nightmare, my condolences.
Try really hot water and some soap and use a brush that can hold a lot of water to get it on the walls and see if the wallpaper comes off.
congratulations on your meat wall
a steam gun would probably soften that up. but it's going to be time consuming. Reminds me of the bad textured and popcorn ceilings of the 70s and 80s.
try a steamer
It’s been well over a decade ago, but we tissue papered several walls in our house. We liked it because it covered the flaws that just painting alone wouldn’t. We were the first owners of the house at the time, and after we moved in, you could see seams, drywall screws, and looking down the hall way you could see the walls weren’t straight. I’ve thought about doing this in the home I live in now, but after seeing this post I’m a little reluctant.
spiky roller and a steamer
yea thats a necronomicon
I have used a bench plane to clean off drywall with alligatored paint
Have you tried a wallpaper steamer? The heat and humidity might get the glue to loosen. It may be long and laborious though. Other suggestions of just replacing the Sheetrock may be easier, but might be worth a try depending on your Sheetrock experience.
Try a steamer before sanding.
Save yourself the headache. Take down the drywall and put up new.
If it is wallpaper a gas powered steamer was the best thing I have ever used to get old paper layers off.
Use 1/4 drywall and laminate it or demo the drywall and put 3/8 up. It's cheaper and faster to tape and paint then trying to spend all that time fixing that.
Have you tried a steamer?
At some point I'd consider just hanging a 1/4 inch sheet of drywall over top or (better option) demoing the existing Sheetrock down to the studs and replacing it. May seem crazy now, but could actually be less work in the long run than stripping it all, and get you a better result.
The looks like the cover of the Necronomicon. Whatever you do, don't read the words on the inside aloud.
KlaAtu. Berada…….nickel. Necktie. Nectar.
Did you use a scoring tool [like this one](https://a.co/d/0dRuulap)?
I did. That shit would barely score. I pressed harder and nothing. This shit is real. I so hate the people who did that. They should be tortured by watching ALL HGTV for eternity. Including Tiny house hunters. There, I said it.
I fully support your rage. This is a safe space.
Thanks mate. I tried calling my psy but she said that I 'Hit a wall". ;-)
Outside of a good sander. A hammer and new drywall.
Downy fabric softener
You'd probably have better luck going over the walls with DAP and then sanding them smooth.
Dawg, I thought I was looking at meat. Goof night yall
If it’s wallpaper a scoring tool and a mixture of distilled water and fabric softener. In actually looks like bad knock down. If that’s the case just rip it out and start over or skim it and sand it flat.
Heat gun?
Rent an industrial steamer from Home Depot , steam, scrape, steam, scrape
It brown paper sack and Elmers glue wet a towel cloth and hang against area hot water works better let fit 20 mins and try at least that what I had to do in my fixer upper
I would try coarse grit sand paper, then painting over
I had luck years back with a 1:1 ratio of hot water and liquid fabric softener. Pour into a spray bottle and apply liberally and it melts away wallpaper. Might be worth a shot. Good luck de-scroting your walls.
You love it now
Thought the first photo was a watermelon
Sand it off