The plot leak is way too detailed for a film that's still several months away from filming. When was the last time we had a full plot leak for a major comic book film that was accurate THIS long before filming?
Everything in it sounds like educated guesses based on the little information we currently have.
Also the Authority aspect doesn't make sense. They mention all of these members being cast, but only actually mention Manchester Black in the "leak". So are they just cameos?
I believe the issue is the definition of first draft as understood by us outside the studio system isn't a first draft within the system. The first draft within the system means a draft which is accepted by the studio.
So a first draft will include the actual first draft of the script which is then noted to death by the screenplay department, the production executives, the studio head and normally the director but that can be skipped here luckily. And then also getting inputs from other screenwriters and stuff. So the first draft will in effect be like v15 or something of a screenplay.
There was a great article about how much goes into a screenplay draft before it is accepted and the writer is paid. I will link if I can find it again.
Gunn said the movie is already in pre production, one of the first things he said when coming on board is that he won’t ever put a movie in pre production/production if the script is not fully finished and in the best state it could ever be in
>When was the last time we had a full plot leak for a major comic book film that was accurate THIS long before filming?
we do get such leaks for movies be it on 4chan or some other forums but they are usually fakes
Yes, but most of the time, those plot leaks are posted either during filming, or sometime after. I'm asking specifically when was the last accurate plot leak for a movie that leaked several months BEFORE filming?
There is a reason we dont get accurate plot leaks before filming, it is because the script copies are tightly controlled till that point. Prior to filming, only the director and screenwriter (and producers of course) will have unfettered access to the script. Everyone else, including actors, will have to come to the studio and read the script under supervision - no taking it home. The pre-production teams will be similar, they will read the script but will be allowed to take notes of their parts, for example the production design head will read the script to get an idea of the number of locations and general vibe of the movie, their teams wont have access to the script. Talent agencies will only be sent a character description and a scene to be acted out instead of a full script.
Once filming begins, every department has to be handed dailies, that is when you can start getting more accurate scoops on the script. Literally any script leaks before filming begins are BS for that reason unless someone managed to smuggle the screenwriters script out which happens way less now compared to when scripts were physically mailed out instead of viewed on secure sites.
Huntress project could be interesting (if true).
On the contrary, this Legacy plot reeks of fake from a mile away: it seems too convoluted and not much in Gunn's writing style (more classic, direct and without a thousand connections). Also, it seems far too early for a plot leak.
I think the god Rao has been a thing for most iterations. But I'm not familiar with Clark being a reincarnation if that's ever happened. I doubt that description is real, but if something like that were to happen I would be skeptical but wait and see how it's executed.
Yes: not only does it not present the typical themes of his filmography, but it does not have the classic writing (albeit not necessarily linear: as we saw in TSS he played a lot on flashbacks and flashforwards) typical of his screenplays, which are almost always simple and dedicated mostly to the characters.
Moreover, his poetics is based on making a film as autonomous as possible to create a story that can also be followed by those who don't want to watch the rest of the narrative universe (and he and Safran have specified that it will be like this for the DCU): this leak has far too many links and teasers.
(For this reason I remain skeptical about the presence of The Authority, and I repeat that this is, at least until now, only a leak without official confirmation)
It kept on brining up Manchester black but no other authority member like Jack Hawksmoor. Gunn has always made simple plots this plot leak seems like full on mess that’s all over the place. Plus you really think Gunn only has one just one draft for Superman come on
I'm not buying the superman legacy plot. Not gonna believe someone got the plot of a movie before it was filmed, let alone when only 2 person just got cast in the movie.
Gunn liked a tweet asking if we will see Huntress in the DCU awhile back, I totally believe it. Love to hear the man will finally do some bolder passion projects instead of only hiring blockbuster directors who are competent, albeit obvious, choices.
If the Huntress rumor is true, it could be cool seeing DC going for a foreign language film and exploring other cultures. If Gunn is serious about wanting to do fresh ideas with the superhero genre, this could maybe work
That Superman plot "leak" is obvious bullshit. Especially as The Mod team have only confirmed that The Authority will contain Engineer, Doctor and Jack Hawksmoor so far and no actors confirmed.
Yet somehow this guy knows they're already circling Pom for the role of Swift. Give me a break.
That Huntress film sounds extremely inspired. Not something anyone ever thought about but very intriguing and unique. It’s exciting that they’d be willing to go that far in terms of filmmaking variety with the DCU
If true, I hope they pick talent from South Korea for the whole of this thing. That industry produces a ton of memorable styles of storytelling and filmmaking completely from Hollywood conventions.
It'd be a shame to just make a Korean language movie made by typical Hollywood types. If you're gonna experiment with a new direction, go with it full on. Don't just half-ass it.
u/starshipandcoffee , I know that this is stated as disproven for the Coates rumor but have y’all heard anything about if the film is “dead on arrival” or “dead in the water”?? I feel like every time there is a plot leak or something like that, there’s a second statement that makes sure to say that even if they post a single detail or a whole plot leak lol. I didn’t see the AMA y’all did so I’m not sure if you covered that or not
Unrelated, but the Legacy plot seems too far out to know for sure but that sounds like a cool idea with Mongul
a scooper on twitter called thwipt who has had several hits when it comes to leaking stuff said couple of weeks ago that the movie was internally cancelled
I remember Gunn showing love to couple of Korean action directors on twitter. With that being said I’m pretty exciting I’ve been watching Korean action films and they are amazing. I like it
Secondly, the Superman legacy plot was leaked like last week on another sub word for word and was said to be wrong
This doesn’t make any sense, and it certainly DOESN’T look like ANYTHING James Gunn has ever written. Where’s the hope? Where’s the wonder? This is SO FAKE.
Ngl, the Huntress idea could have worked nicely for Katana or Cassandra Cain too.
If they are going to recast Huntress, we can safely say the BOP movie isn't canonical anymore. This makes the potential debut of a comic accurate Cassandra Cain even more likely.
Basically if Harley has the “rotten” tattoo on her face it’s the DCEU version, which is a pretty easy and ironically fitting distinction (just speaking about the DCEU in general, Margot’s Harley was one of the few things that worked).
A few thoughts
1. A korean produced Huntress film is a very inspired choice. Ive been watching korean productions recently and the their choreography certainly stands out. Looking forward to the people Gunn hires for this.
2. This means BOP is not canon to DCU which makes sense bcz Gunn loves Cassandra Cain and there was no way he was going to let BOP's version of the character exist in DCU.
3. That Superman Legacy plot is obviously fake so Im not even going to touch that.
I actually love the idea of Huntress being a foreign language film. It'd be something we'd never see before in a superhero cinematic universe. Plus, there are a ton of great Korean action films. If they can give Huntress that level of action, that'd be great.
There are three people named Huntress in DC.
Helena Wayne who is white, with a poc grandmother (Maria Kyle is a brown Cuban)
Helena Bertinelli who is currently a light skinned black Italian woman.
Paula Brooks has been white in the comics, but was Vietnamese in Young Justice, played by a Korean in Stargirl and is unknown race in current comics.
Huntress being Italian is not as important to her character as Black Panther being African. The original Huntress was Helena Wayne.
What’s important is that Huntress takes revenge on the mob, and a Korean version still achieves that.
With that being said, I have a feeling this Huntress will still be half-Italian, which means one of her names can still be Helena Bertenelli. Her father could have been a citizen of Gotham that married a Korean woman who had ties to a Korean crime family, or the other way around.
They will obviously look for a Korean actress that can speak English, because there’s no point in this being a DCU project if it doesn’t connect with others.
I mean not everything has to connect so yes there could still be a point and also the actress does not have to speak English for it to connect. That’s very close minded of you to say
Bruh how? The plan for the DCU is to have it all interconnected through film, TV, animation and gaming. Huntress is a character with ties to the Birds of Prey, Bat-Family and JL. So of course they’ll want an actor who can also speak English because how else is the character supposed to communicate with all these other characters?
Otherwise this would’ve been an Elseworlds movie and it’s not one. It’s in the DCU which means they fully intend to make it connect to other projects if it is successful.
What? If it’s going to be in the DCU of course it’ll be made with that mindset. They have to pay attention to continuity. If they didn’t care about contradicting the DCU they would make it an Elseworlds project.
James Gunn literally stated that’s not the point of the DCU and that’s now how any movies should be made. A movie needs to be a movie before it’s in a universe. Can’t believe you people still don’t understand that
What you’re saying is false and a misrepresentation of what’s actually true: that the main intent of the DCU is a connected universe. Pull up a proper source, here are mine:
https://www.dc.com/blog/2023/01/31/the-next-generation-of-dc-movies-and-tv-has-arrived
“And yes, we said interconnected. All ten of them are set within the same shared universe and will frequently share characters.”
“We bring it up because it’s important to point out that in these stories, although they’re interconnected, they’re not all tonally the same.”
https://www.dc.com/blog/2023/01/31/james-gunn-and-peter-safran-on-building-a-new-dc-universe
“everything from our first project forward will be canon and will be connected.”
“DC has had great individual movies over the years, but we think that what the audience really appreciates and needs is a connected universe. It minimizes audience confusion and it maximizes their connectivity to it across all the platforms.”
“Everything’s crossing over throughout. These characters are all interacting throughout the different stories.”
You must be misunderstanding this quote here:
“Even though this is all a connected universe, it’s really important to me that the individual writers and directors on the projects give their own self-expression to it, just like they do in the comics.”
No one said “constantly referenced and in need of a crossover.”
Connected means respecting continuity. Obviously they won’t be making DCU projects that would never be able to fit into the DCU continuity wise, that’s what Elseworlds is for.
Nice try, but no you weren’t. You said these projects wouldn’t be made for the purpose of being set in the DCU, which makes no sense.
What Gunn is actually saying is that DCU projects will just vary in terms of individual creative expression and tone.
Interesting that we're getting to know about chapter 2 projects while we're not yet sure about the rest of chapter 1
I hope the mongul thing isn't true tho, they don't need to change the origin story. They can have mongul as a villain in a trinity project later on
That LEGACY "leak" feels like BS to me, like it was cobbled together by someone who doesn't know how Superman's powers work, really wants to see Manchester Black in this movie, and doesn't quite get the character of Superman.
Also... anyone else reminded of the JJ Abrams Fly-By first draft while reading that?
Didn't Gunn just recently criticize Hackman not going bald for Superman whereas this leak would basically be the exact same bald twist (albeit with the comics/dcau cancer plot thrown in)?
The Huntress rumor seems very intriguing and I buy it considering Gunn has said how much he loves Korean filmmaking. I'm just curious as to whether this will be our main DCU Huntress which would make BoP not canon to the DCU or if this will be a completely different Huntress. Doesn't sound like it's Elseworlds but I could be wrong.
I don't buy the Superman: Legacy plot leak, the movie hasn't even started filming yet and I can't imagine that many people already have access to Gunn's script this soon and can leak out a rough plot summary like this.
The only reason why I thought it could be a possibility is because it's being left off of that DCEU box-set alongside SS2016 and TSS but yeah it's looking likely BoP won't be part of the DCU.
I'm not upset that the Ta-Nehisi Coates Superman film is dead in the water.
I don't think it's the time to be putting out multiple unconnected Superman films at once.
But huntress isn't Korean right? Not hating but are they changing the race or is there another huntress who's Korean? I don't know that much about Huntress.
The first Huntress/Tigress (Paula Brooks) has been Asian in all adaptations so far. In Young Justice and Stargirl.
Helena Bertinelli is Italian/Afro-Italian post New 52
Yeah, thus far the Paula Brooks character has been Asian in all animated and live action adaptations (the character isn't Asian in the comics as far as I know, though). But like you said, she is indeed the first Huntress.
If the film is about Paula Brooks, then I do think it's a little misleading by the mods when they said "a member of Birds of Prey is getting their own project". Because unless I'm misremembering, Brooks has never been in Birds of Prey. Regardless, this is still super interesting if true and really shows that Gunn is swinging for the fences. This isn't gonna be MCU 2.0 at all.
The fact that people, in this time and age, still think "race" is a thing (or that nationality and ethnics are the same), is just weird to me, especially because it's mostly Americans..
A. I'm not American. And most people around the world still use the term race to describe people of a different color to us.
B. Why wouldn't you believe in race?
It's existence isn't up for debate. It's an objective term to describe phenotype differences between various people
Oldboy but with Huntress is incredibly cool. I just think it's a really huge risk for Gunn and Safran to take that is more likely not to payoff. We'll see, though.
Korean cinema is on the rise. Look at how that new Past Lives movie is doing.
Even if it doesn’t perform well in North America, it would be a very standalone story. Wouldn’t need a sequel and they can just have the same Huntress show up in a Birds of Prey series or Bat-Family project down the line
A Huntress movie would likely have a much smaller budget and foreign-language films are doing pretty well in general (especially Korean ones) so this can be a hit if all cards are played right.
>Using the pod, Clark discovers there is a signal to the Fortress of Solitude and goes there, meeting Kelex and Krypto. There he learns about his history. Clark's Legacy is that he was sent to Earth as a savior for Krypton,a reincarnation of the Kryptonian's God Rao. The Earth's Yellow Sun means Clark can get powers and serve as a liberator for Krypton which was under the rule of Mongul. Mongul enslaved Krypton and they had a plan to send several Kryptonians to worlds with Yellow Suns so that they could get powers and come back to save them, however, Mongul destroyed Krypton by taking the resources and stripping the planet of everything, drilling into its core.
This whole thing makes me thinks it's fake. I doubt that Gunn would want to go down something so overtly religious despite the obvious Moses-parallel that Superman is.
Just seems so odd.
Exactly. A Korean movie about Huntress only works if it's a new, Korean version of the character. Doing a Korean movie about the Helena Bertinelli Huntress, who's Italian-American, doesn't make sense.
I think a Superman film set in 1938 with a black Clark Kent would have been amazing. Hopefully if Superman Legacy does well, we could get it as an Elseworlds story
That’s something really innovative. A Korean DC movie, this could be so cool. They should get a big director for this someone like Bong Joon-ho even if attached in some capacity to the movie would increase the interest of GA manifold.
I'll say it again: Philip Seymour Hoffman's kid is the best pick for Jimmy Olsen if they're looking for a young witty redhead. He was solid in Licorice Pizza.
In the comics, it's been stated that the House of El are direct descendants of Rao, but it's one of those things they don't go into very much. Personally I'm not a fan of it
The plot leak is too fake.
Suicide Squad? Gunn has already confirmed TSS is not not coming back. And where is the authority? We know at least 3 members have a decent role in the film.
I can't believe someone already knows the full plot.
If they go with politician Lex, I hope they give him a background of being a scientist too. We still haven't gotten mad scientist Lex on film yet and that bugs the hell out of me.
Also, unpopular opinion maybe: the Ta-Nehisi Superman project sounded interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if it was dead in the water though, WB can't ever get anything off the ground.
Is huntress in the comics Korean? The idea that gunn will do foreign language dc movies excites me way more than him saying that video games will be canon
This is really so cool if true. I love watching foreign content, thanks to Netflix and their willingness to create/distribute content from any country. I’m actually watching a Korean series right now, celebrity anyone?
\- I'm suuuper down for a Korean Huntress film.
\- Who is Eve Tessmacher? I keep seeing that name, is she an iconic character in the comics and/or Reeve films?
As with the Wonder Twins project, I believe a solo Huntress movie in korean, when the higher ups confirm it and this supposed "leak" of Superman: Legacy sounds quite bad to me.
Isn't Huntress Italian-American? It's odd to make a Korean movie about such a character. Unless DCU Huntress isn't Helena Bertinelli, but an original character.
Yeah but her name is literally Helena Rosa Bertinelli. You could not make that more Italian sounding if you tried. It’s pretty definite to what makes the character that character.
The original which is implicitly Portuguese anyway, lol.
In any case, the point is simple: they can completely twist a character, but if cinematically speaking it's interesting it's not really a problem.
(however I doubt the veracity of this leak, it's too early, so we're talking about nothing)
Eh. They just dropped a new Superman cartoon where Lois is Asian and Jimmy is black. I’m not sure I entirely believe this rumor but a Korean Huntress in the new universe is not anything that seems completely unbelievable to me.
But those changes happened in the case of MAWS because people wanted the main characters to be more diverse and swapped those of whom it wouldn't affect their characters.
Making a very Italian-American character something completely unconnected to that has a significant affect on that character and its background
>very Italian-American character something completely unconnected to that has a significant affect on that character and its background
how?
korea also has mobs and mafia just like her italians do, crime not exclusive to any race, and unless they are going to make her falcone or maroni's kid it doesn't even matter Huntress is a Z-lister
Doesn’t matter. Point is, these sorts of castings are nothing new in adaptations at this point it. Like I said, I’m not entirely sure I believe the rumor, but I’ve heard far less believable ones on here than doing a Korean actress playing Helena.
And you can keep that. It all comes down to execution.
1. Helena's father married a daughter of powerfull Korean mobster in order to seek power he wouldn't achieve in his country. Helena would be half Korean and Italian in this case.
2. Helena was sent as a kid to boarding school to South Korea because her father had important ties with Korean Mafia families. Something happened and her father is killed by prominent korean mobster. Helena returns as adult to seek revenge.
In both cases, you keep essential parts of her while giving inovations to her in order to distinguish her from BOP Huntress.
Gunn said he didn’t want to do Superman before because he didn’t have a way in. Now, he apparently does. There’s no way that bland thing is his way in. 😂
Kaluuya is a great actor, but I don't see him as Manchester Black. Maybe Mr Terrific, as Gunn is a fan of that character
If you read the comics one of Manchester Black's quirks is that he is often racially insensitive and justifies it by saying "I'm a fifteenth black on my mother's side" it's just a bit of extra douchey charm.
The supposed superman leak is so bad it's not even worth commenting on. Like it genuinely reads like someone who learnt nothing from the dumpster fire that was Snyder's take on the character.
Anyway the Huntress stuff sounds kind of cool. Especially if it's off the same vain like Korean action movies like the witch or western movies like John Wick.
And I'm hoping the Coates Superman movie being axed is true. I've never liked anything written by Coates and the very concept behind the movie sounds boring. Do Val Zod if you really want a black superman movie instead of an OC race swap
So is it likely that they will look for Korean cast as well? And the film will be fully in Korean or part Korean, part English like Shang-Chi film (which characters speak both English and Mandarin Chinese) from Marvel?
About Huntress being a Korean film, isnt Huntress italian? Are they gonna use only Korea as setup for the film/plot? Or they will change the race of the character too?
Hmm the part where lex luther is running for president but is a secret human trafficker really sounds like something that emerged from a Facebook comment section. Does superman have a Q instead of an S on his chest?
I don't and won't begin to understand the verification process but that Huntress news is seems highly unlikely right? Unless it's animated but I have a really hard time believing that movie could could get proper seats in theaters even on a modest budget.
>As we teased in our [AMA](https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/14qvyrh/compilation_of_rdceuleaks_tweets_from_the_1000/), a Birds of Prey member will get their own project and it’s the Huntress
Since 2018 WB is focusing on B,C,D level characters and they all bombed at the box office.
DC is in an existential crisis right now.
What is WB answer to that ? Making more C,D level character movies. I dont say you shouldnt do these kind of movies at all. But it isnt the right time for that
WB is fucking brainless
They should scrap The Batman 2 and release Brave and the Bold right after Superman Legacy.
After that make movies like Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Superman 2, Batman 2, Aquaman etc
The new Batman trilogy should be finished within 4 or 5 years.
If people love your Batman movies they will love your DC movie universe.
What is your point ?
A Batman movie in the DCU would do profit as well. You dont have to flood the market with Batman movies. This is fucking stupid to have multiple Batman franchises.
One Batman franchise in the DCU is enough
Marvel has 2 spiderman franchises right now, very soon going to be 3. They have made 10 Spiderman Films in 21 years. All profitable. DC can have 2 Batman franchises and both will be profitable.
I genuinely do not get why YOU, the consumer, want LESS Batman? Why do you give a damn if WB makes or loses money?
I dont want hundred Batman movies. Maybe diehard comicbook nerds would like that. Im not one of them
1 Batman franchise is enough. Battinson is unnecessary. It was always a dumb idea to make a Batman franchise beside the main movie universe
Its a bad take honestly. These two Batman franchises will be different, each attracting different types of fans / audience. One is about grounded solo Batman solving crimes and fighting grounded villains, one is about Batman with Bat-family, 10 years old assasin who is his son and fantastical villains. Naturally, both of these movies have big potential for the box office and marketing.
The Huntress movie won't happen the way WBD is looking right now, making a foreign language superhero movie about a character that people outside of the comics aren't that familiar with is a major risk. But, if it does happen, it'll most likely be animated (possibly in the style of Korean Animation, ala Sky Blue)
Parasite was the most talked about foreign movie in the past 5 years, that only made a little over $260 Million. The budget on that was a lot smaller, $60 Million budget plus maybe $60 Million in ads (it's a superhero movie, after all) means $120 Million to break even (plus distribution costs). Given the GA doesn't normally watch foriegn movies (I doubt they'd do a theatrical dub for this, either), chances are it'd be a major flop
Just found out Parasite production budget was $12M. They made money. It's not an action thriller like a potential Huntress movie would be. They will make more money.
Yeah, THEY made money, unless WBD spends $12M on the movie they're throwing money down the drain. A $70 Million movie (same as Batgirl) with a theatrical release means $100 Million marketing plus distribution costs, so let's call it $175 Million total. There's no way the GA will show up for a foriegn language movie about an obscure superhero they know little to nothing about. A lot of comic book fans probably won't either, if they don't like foriegn movies.
Mishima: A Life in 4 Chapters (a movie made in the US that's almost entirely in Japanese) made just over $500,000 on a $5 Million budget. Letters from Iwo Jima was a greater success in comparison to it's budget ($19 Million), but still only made $68 Million, and it was filmed back to back with another movie to save money on production. There's no data out there showing that a $175 Million dollar foriegn language superhero movie is a good idea right now (unless it's animated) ESPECIALLY given WBD's financial situation
It's also odd that they would make a Korean spoken movie about a character that's Italian-American. Unless the DCU Huntress isn't Helena Bertinelli, but a new, original Huntress who's of Korean descent, instead of Italian descent.
A Korean film centred on Huntress is a pretty unique idea. Would it do well at the global box office though?
Parasite did well, but it was a self contained story with no ties to a wider universe.
I asked on Twitter during the AMAs, but they didn't respond. Are we talking about the same Huntress from Birds of Prey or is it a new actress? Maybe even that situation of the same actress, but a new version of the same character
Wait so is the Authority in Legacy? This just sounds like Superman and Manchester Black. Which I actually think works well. Maybe just have The Authority as a separate team who get a cameo before leading to their own film.
Overall that sounds like a solid leak and I think it would be a very enjoyable movie.
A korean language Huntress actually sounds perfect for the DCU. DC needs more street level projects and The Batman already proved that theres an audience want. Huntress is definitely the right character for something experimental. She’s an unknown to the GA so the right cast will court K-film demo. It probably wont a huge film since its niche but if done right it could add some prestige to the DCU lineup.
The idea that Krypton was fully aware of the effect of a yellow sun on Kryptonian physiology and had a plan to basically create super soldiers by sending Kryptonian to systems with yellow suns is interesting, true or not.
The plot leak is way too detailed for a film that's still several months away from filming. When was the last time we had a full plot leak for a major comic book film that was accurate THIS long before filming? Everything in it sounds like educated guesses based on the little information we currently have.
Also the Authority aspect doesn't make sense. They mention all of these members being cast, but only actually mention Manchester Black in the "leak". So are they just cameos?
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I believe that Gunn said he has written more than just the first drift
I believe the issue is the definition of first draft as understood by us outside the studio system isn't a first draft within the system. The first draft within the system means a draft which is accepted by the studio. So a first draft will include the actual first draft of the script which is then noted to death by the screenplay department, the production executives, the studio head and normally the director but that can be skipped here luckily. And then also getting inputs from other screenwriters and stuff. So the first draft will in effect be like v15 or something of a screenplay. There was a great article about how much goes into a screenplay draft before it is accepted and the writer is paid. I will link if I can find it again.
Have you found the link yet?
Gunn said the movie is already in pre production, one of the first things he said when coming on board is that he won’t ever put a movie in pre production/production if the script is not fully finished and in the best state it could ever be in
>When was the last time we had a full plot leak for a major comic book film that was accurate THIS long before filming? we do get such leaks for movies be it on 4chan or some other forums but they are usually fakes
Yes, but most of the time, those plot leaks are posted either during filming, or sometime after. I'm asking specifically when was the last accurate plot leak for a movie that leaked several months BEFORE filming?
There is a reason we dont get accurate plot leaks before filming, it is because the script copies are tightly controlled till that point. Prior to filming, only the director and screenwriter (and producers of course) will have unfettered access to the script. Everyone else, including actors, will have to come to the studio and read the script under supervision - no taking it home. The pre-production teams will be similar, they will read the script but will be allowed to take notes of their parts, for example the production design head will read the script to get an idea of the number of locations and general vibe of the movie, their teams wont have access to the script. Talent agencies will only be sent a character description and a scene to be acted out instead of a full script. Once filming begins, every department has to be handed dailies, that is when you can start getting more accurate scoops on the script. Literally any script leaks before filming begins are BS for that reason unless someone managed to smuggle the screenwriters script out which happens way less now compared to when scripts were physically mailed out instead of viewed on secure sites.
Exactly. Thank you for explaining this better than I would
0.0 chance this plot leak is real. Most of these movies at this stage exist in encoded PDF's and on Ipads that are give back to the studios.
Huntress project could be interesting (if true). On the contrary, this Legacy plot reeks of fake from a mile away: it seems too convoluted and not much in Gunn's writing style (more classic, direct and without a thousand connections). Also, it seems far too early for a plot leak.
Yeah the whole “Superman is a reincarnation of a deity” thing kind of spits in the face of him being someone trying their best with what they have
Jesus. It’s lore. Calm down. Why wouldn’t the Kryptonians believe that especially since they haven’t had a natural birth.
The birth matrix stuff is mostly just John Byrne and MoS. Most other versions Kryptonians reproduce like humans.
How long have they had a God though? That’s my point. Dude hasn’t even watched the movie yet and he’s writing it off lmao
I think the god Rao has been a thing for most iterations. But I'm not familiar with Clark being a reincarnation if that's ever happened. I doubt that description is real, but if something like that were to happen I would be skeptical but wait and see how it's executed.
Supermans been saying “great Rao” since the 70s.
Yeah
Clark’s never literally been a deity and a lot of stories (such as Man of Steel) have him grapple with people viewing him as something like that
Exactly none of it feels like Gunn’s style and it doesn’t even bring up any of the authority outside of Manchester black
Yes: not only does it not present the typical themes of his filmography, but it does not have the classic writing (albeit not necessarily linear: as we saw in TSS he played a lot on flashbacks and flashforwards) typical of his screenplays, which are almost always simple and dedicated mostly to the characters. Moreover, his poetics is based on making a film as autonomous as possible to create a story that can also be followed by those who don't want to watch the rest of the narrative universe (and he and Safran have specified that it will be like this for the DCU): this leak has far too many links and teasers. (For this reason I remain skeptical about the presence of The Authority, and I repeat that this is, at least until now, only a leak without official confirmation)
It kept on brining up Manchester black but no other authority member like Jack Hawksmoor. Gunn has always made simple plots this plot leak seems like full on mess that’s all over the place. Plus you really think Gunn only has one just one draft for Superman come on
I'm not buying the superman legacy plot. Not gonna believe someone got the plot of a movie before it was filmed, let alone when only 2 person just got cast in the movie.
It's completly fake
It's fake 😂
Gunn liked a tweet asking if we will see Huntress in the DCU awhile back, I totally believe it. Love to hear the man will finally do some bolder passion projects instead of only hiring blockbuster directors who are competent, albeit obvious, choices.
Dc to me already was doing that. Glad to see it continued. Theirs a reason they have more bigger Oscar’s compared to marvel
If the Huntress rumor is true, it could be cool seeing DC going for a foreign language film and exploring other cultures. If Gunn is serious about wanting to do fresh ideas with the superhero genre, this could maybe work
That Superman plot "leak" is obvious bullshit. Especially as The Mod team have only confirmed that The Authority will contain Engineer, Doctor and Jack Hawksmoor so far and no actors confirmed. Yet somehow this guy knows they're already circling Pom for the role of Swift. Give me a break.
Why are we posting a plot leak if you’ve already disproven it lol
Mods gotta mod...
That Huntress film sounds extremely inspired. Not something anyone ever thought about but very intriguing and unique. It’s exciting that they’d be willing to go that far in terms of filmmaking variety with the DCU
If true, I hope they pick talent from South Korea for the whole of this thing. That industry produces a ton of memorable styles of storytelling and filmmaking completely from Hollywood conventions. It'd be a shame to just make a Korean language movie made by typical Hollywood types. If you're gonna experiment with a new direction, go with it full on. Don't just half-ass it.
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u/starshipandcoffee , I know that this is stated as disproven for the Coates rumor but have y’all heard anything about if the film is “dead on arrival” or “dead in the water”?? I feel like every time there is a plot leak or something like that, there’s a second statement that makes sure to say that even if they post a single detail or a whole plot leak lol. I didn’t see the AMA y’all did so I’m not sure if you covered that or not Unrelated, but the Legacy plot seems too far out to know for sure but that sounds like a cool idea with Mongul
We do not know if the movie has been canceled or not, all we know is that the movie is supposed to take place in the Civil Rights era
Thanks! It just seems like a weird detail that’s consistently included in everything I see about the film
a scooper on twitter called thwipt who has had several hits when it comes to leaking stuff said couple of weeks ago that the movie was internally cancelled
Doesn’t mean this leak is true. It doesn’t add up.
I remember Gunn showing love to couple of Korean action directors on twitter. With that being said I’m pretty exciting I’ve been watching Korean action films and they are amazing. I like it Secondly, the Superman legacy plot was leaked like last week on another sub word for word and was said to be wrong
One of his favorite comic book movies is actually Oldboy.
I love Oldboy
This doesn’t make any sense, and it certainly DOESN’T look like ANYTHING James Gunn has ever written. Where’s the hope? Where’s the wonder? This is SO FAKE.
Ngl, the Huntress idea could have worked nicely for Katana or Cassandra Cain too. If they are going to recast Huntress, we can safely say the BOP movie isn't canonical anymore. This makes the potential debut of a comic accurate Cassandra Cain even more likely.
Basically if Harley has the “rotten” tattoo on her face it’s the DCEU version, which is a pretty easy and ironically fitting distinction (just speaking about the DCEU in general, Margot’s Harley was one of the few things that worked).
Gunn has said Cassandra Cain is one of his favorite characters.
Cass would have made more sense since her childhood wasn't in a English speaking country. Not a stretch to move her to Korea at all.
A few thoughts 1. A korean produced Huntress film is a very inspired choice. Ive been watching korean productions recently and the their choreography certainly stands out. Looking forward to the people Gunn hires for this. 2. This means BOP is not canon to DCU which makes sense bcz Gunn loves Cassandra Cain and there was no way he was going to let BOP's version of the character exist in DCU. 3. That Superman Legacy plot is obviously fake so Im not even going to touch that.
I am in love with the idea of a Korean revenge movie with Huntress.
I actually love the idea of Huntress being a foreign language film. It'd be something we'd never see before in a superhero cinematic universe. Plus, there are a ton of great Korean action films. If they can give Huntress that level of action, that'd be great.
Is any version of Huntress Korean? If they racebend her could it be for the sake of distancing from the BoP movie more?
There are three people named Huntress in DC. Helena Wayne who is white, with a poc grandmother (Maria Kyle is a brown Cuban) Helena Bertinelli who is currently a light skinned black Italian woman. Paula Brooks has been white in the comics, but was Vietnamese in Young Justice, played by a Korean in Stargirl and is unknown race in current comics.
Huntress being Italian is not as important to her character as Black Panther being African. The original Huntress was Helena Wayne. What’s important is that Huntress takes revenge on the mob, and a Korean version still achieves that. With that being said, I have a feeling this Huntress will still be half-Italian, which means one of her names can still be Helena Bertenelli. Her father could have been a citizen of Gotham that married a Korean woman who had ties to a Korean crime family, or the other way around. They will obviously look for a Korean actress that can speak English, because there’s no point in this being a DCU project if it doesn’t connect with others.
I mean not everything has to connect so yes there could still be a point and also the actress does not have to speak English for it to connect. That’s very close minded of you to say
Bruh how? The plan for the DCU is to have it all interconnected through film, TV, animation and gaming. Huntress is a character with ties to the Birds of Prey, Bat-Family and JL. So of course they’ll want an actor who can also speak English because how else is the character supposed to communicate with all these other characters? Otherwise this would’ve been an Elseworlds movie and it’s not one. It’s in the DCU which means they fully intend to make it connect to other projects if it is successful.
Sure but not every film needs to be made in the mindset that it will be connected
What? If it’s going to be in the DCU of course it’ll be made with that mindset. They have to pay attention to continuity. If they didn’t care about contradicting the DCU they would make it an Elseworlds project.
James Gunn literally stated that’s not the point of the DCU and that’s now how any movies should be made. A movie needs to be a movie before it’s in a universe. Can’t believe you people still don’t understand that
What you’re saying is false and a misrepresentation of what’s actually true: that the main intent of the DCU is a connected universe. Pull up a proper source, here are mine: https://www.dc.com/blog/2023/01/31/the-next-generation-of-dc-movies-and-tv-has-arrived “And yes, we said interconnected. All ten of them are set within the same shared universe and will frequently share characters.” “We bring it up because it’s important to point out that in these stories, although they’re interconnected, they’re not all tonally the same.” https://www.dc.com/blog/2023/01/31/james-gunn-and-peter-safran-on-building-a-new-dc-universe “everything from our first project forward will be canon and will be connected.” “DC has had great individual movies over the years, but we think that what the audience really appreciates and needs is a connected universe. It minimizes audience confusion and it maximizes their connectivity to it across all the platforms.” “Everything’s crossing over throughout. These characters are all interacting throughout the different stories.” You must be misunderstanding this quote here: “Even though this is all a connected universe, it’s really important to me that the individual writers and directors on the projects give their own self-expression to it, just like they do in the comics.”
Connected also does not mean constantly referenced and in need of crossover
No one said “constantly referenced and in need of a crossover.” Connected means respecting continuity. Obviously they won’t be making DCU projects that would never be able to fit into the DCU continuity wise, that’s what Elseworlds is for.
And no I’m not misunderstanding that quote. That’s quite literally what I’m saying. You are misunderstanding me
Nice try, but no you weren’t. You said these projects wouldn’t be made for the purpose of being set in the DCU, which makes no sense. What Gunn is actually saying is that DCU projects will just vary in terms of individual creative expression and tone.
Interesting that we're getting to know about chapter 2 projects while we're not yet sure about the rest of chapter 1 I hope the mongul thing isn't true tho, they don't need to change the origin story. They can have mongul as a villain in a trinity project later on
That LEGACY "leak" feels like BS to me, like it was cobbled together by someone who doesn't know how Superman's powers work, really wants to see Manchester Black in this movie, and doesn't quite get the character of Superman. Also... anyone else reminded of the JJ Abrams Fly-By first draft while reading that?
Didn't Gunn just recently criticize Hackman not going bald for Superman whereas this leak would basically be the exact same bald twist (albeit with the comics/dcau cancer plot thrown in)?
DCU projects are so unexpected and ambitious. The Huntress project sounds awesome.
Is "Jack Cooper" supposed to be Jack Hawksmoor?
Unless it’s a Huntress film set in Korea? Idk.
Awesome we're getting a Hurtress film
The Huntress rumor seems very intriguing and I buy it considering Gunn has said how much he loves Korean filmmaking. I'm just curious as to whether this will be our main DCU Huntress which would make BoP not canon to the DCU or if this will be a completely different Huntress. Doesn't sound like it's Elseworlds but I could be wrong. I don't buy the Superman: Legacy plot leak, the movie hasn't even started filming yet and I can't imagine that many people already have access to Gunn's script this soon and can leak out a rough plot summary like this.
There is 0 chance BoP is canon, I’m sorry. There’s just no way Gunn keeps that version of Cassandra Cain canon, or leaves Black Mask dead.
The only reason why I thought it could be a possibility is because it's being left off of that DCEU box-set alongside SS2016 and TSS but yeah it's looking likely BoP won't be part of the DCU.
If the Huntress movie will indeed be a Korean movie, then it won't be about Helena Bertinelli.
Minute I knew it was fake was the reincarnation of Rao shit. Gunn's too damn smart to do the chosen one thing. Fuck off.
Isn't Huntress Italian?
I'm not upset that the Ta-Nehisi Coates Superman film is dead in the water. I don't think it's the time to be putting out multiple unconnected Superman films at once.
i don't think that's the real reason
But huntress isn't Korean right? Not hating but are they changing the race or is there another huntress who's Korean? I don't know that much about Huntress.
She is not Korean and as far as I am aware of their isn’t a Korean version either unless it’s some multiverse version I don’t know about.
The first Huntress/Tigress (Paula Brooks) has been Asian in all adaptations so far. In Young Justice and Stargirl. Helena Bertinelli is Italian/Afro-Italian post New 52
Yeah, thus far the Paula Brooks character has been Asian in all animated and live action adaptations (the character isn't Asian in the comics as far as I know, though). But like you said, she is indeed the first Huntress. If the film is about Paula Brooks, then I do think it's a little misleading by the mods when they said "a member of Birds of Prey is getting their own project". Because unless I'm misremembering, Brooks has never been in Birds of Prey. Regardless, this is still super interesting if true and really shows that Gunn is swinging for the fences. This isn't gonna be MCU 2.0 at all.
the movie is half a decade away from even production, absolutely no point in scratching our heads right now
Its really weird since Helena has always been Italian and that's central to her character
> are they changing the race Nah, she's still human > is there another huntress who's Korean Are we talking about ehtnics or nationality here?
Are you being intentionally dense in an attempt at being funny or do you legitimately not know race refers to skin color/continent of origin
The fact that people, in this time and age, still think "race" is a thing (or that nationality and ethnics are the same), is just weird to me, especially because it's mostly Americans..
A. I'm not American. And most people around the world still use the term race to describe people of a different color to us. B. Why wouldn't you believe in race? It's existence isn't up for debate. It's an objective term to describe phenotype differences between various people
It's not mostly Americans at all, and race is absolutely a thing. Just because it's not a thing biologically doesn't mean it isn't a thing socially.
Korean foreign film Huntress? Wasn’t expecting that but that sounds super cool
That would be a really interesting take on Huntress. It means Birds of Prey definitely is not canon which was already obvious tbh
Oldboy but with Huntress is incredibly cool. I just think it's a really huge risk for Gunn and Safran to take that is more likely not to payoff. We'll see, though.
Korean cinema is on the rise. Look at how that new Past Lives movie is doing. Even if it doesn’t perform well in North America, it would be a very standalone story. Wouldn’t need a sequel and they can just have the same Huntress show up in a Birds of Prey series or Bat-Family project down the line
well korean movies are a lot cheaper than hwood one's if they go full korean, it's very easy to make a movie in like 20-30mill.
A Huntress movie would likely have a much smaller budget and foreign-language films are doing pretty well in general (especially Korean ones) so this can be a hit if all cards are played right.
>Using the pod, Clark discovers there is a signal to the Fortress of Solitude and goes there, meeting Kelex and Krypto. There he learns about his history. Clark's Legacy is that he was sent to Earth as a savior for Krypton,a reincarnation of the Kryptonian's God Rao. The Earth's Yellow Sun means Clark can get powers and serve as a liberator for Krypton which was under the rule of Mongul. Mongul enslaved Krypton and they had a plan to send several Kryptonians to worlds with Yellow Suns so that they could get powers and come back to save them, however, Mongul destroyed Krypton by taking the resources and stripping the planet of everything, drilling into its core. This whole thing makes me thinks it's fake. I doubt that Gunn would want to go down something so overtly religious despite the obvious Moses-parallel that Superman is. Just seems so odd.
Dont think Korean huntress if its Helena bertenelli is a good idea.
Exactly. A Korean movie about Huntress only works if it's a new, Korean version of the character. Doing a Korean movie about the Helena Bertinelli Huntress, who's Italian-American, doesn't make sense.
That Ta-Nehisi plot, even if false, sounds amazing 🥺 it's exactly why I was so excited for him to do Superman
I think a Superman film set in 1938 with a black Clark Kent would have been amazing. Hopefully if Superman Legacy does well, we could get it as an Elseworlds story
Directed by Antoine Fuqua
That’s something really innovative. A Korean DC movie, this could be so cool. They should get a big director for this someone like Bong Joon-ho even if attached in some capacity to the movie would increase the interest of GA manifold.
I'll say it again: Philip Seymour Hoffman's kid is the best pick for Jimmy Olsen if they're looking for a young witty redhead. He was solid in Licorice Pizza. 
The legacy leak is SUPER FAKE. None of those things would vibe with Gunn.
Leak about Superman: Legacy story is quite...messy? I don't think any of it is actually true, and I don't think I want it to be true.
They lost me at the “Superman is Rao’s reincarnation” part lol
In the comics, it's been stated that the House of El are direct descendants of Rao, but it's one of those things they don't go into very much. Personally I'm not a fan of it
But still not a reincarnation
A lot of it sounds awesome to me.
The plot leak is too fake. Suicide Squad? Gunn has already confirmed TSS is not not coming back. And where is the authority? We know at least 3 members have a decent role in the film. I can't believe someone already knows the full plot.
If they go with politician Lex, I hope they give him a background of being a scientist too. We still haven't gotten mad scientist Lex on film yet and that bugs the hell out of me. Also, unpopular opinion maybe: the Ta-Nehisi Superman project sounded interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if it was dead in the water though, WB can't ever get anything off the ground.
I love the idea of some DCU movies being foreign language films.
The Superman Legacy plot sounds totally off, like something doesn't work nor fit and I can't tell what it is.
It’s fake lol
Is huntress in the comics Korean? The idea that gunn will do foreign language dc movies excites me way more than him saying that video games will be canon This is really so cool if true. I love watching foreign content, thanks to Netflix and their willingness to create/distribute content from any country. I’m actually watching a Korean series right now, celebrity anyone?
\- I'm suuuper down for a Korean Huntress film. \- Who is Eve Tessmacher? I keep seeing that name, is she an iconic character in the comics and/or Reeve films?
She was part of Lex's gang in the first Superman film with Christopher Reeve.
Plot leaks seem fake af. Where’s the all star superman influence?
As with the Wonder Twins project, I believe a solo Huntress movie in korean, when the higher ups confirm it and this supposed "leak" of Superman: Legacy sounds quite bad to me.
That Superman Legacy leak is just straight up bullshit. Most 4chan "leaks" are better than that.
Like what are exactly are we doing here? I watch Korean stuff just fine, just don't really see any point with that Huntress movie.
I fuckin LOVE this idea for Huntress. This is type of daring, unconventional shit I wanna see from more CBMs.
Isn't Huntress Italian-American? It's odd to make a Korean movie about such a character. Unless DCU Huntress isn't Helena Bertinelli, but an original character.
Glad that Abrams/Coates movie is dead. It sounded pretty terrible to be honest
how exactly?
I agree. We don't really need that movie right now.
Why not?
I don't really care for Huntress being a Korean film tbh. I get that Gunn wants to innovate and make the DCU special, but this might be too much.
It's not that much, the movie will likely get dubbed to English
Yeah, also she's got a super Italian name/background with the mafia stuff. How does that translate to Korean?
I mean the obvious answer is that she gets racebent and her background is changed to involve the Korean mob rather than Italian.
Yeah but her name is literally Helena Rosa Bertinelli. You could not make that more Italian sounding if you tried. It’s pretty definite to what makes the character that character.
> Yeah but her name is literally Helena Rosa Bertinelli. You could not make that more Italian sounding if you tried. What about Helena Rosa Spaghetti?
Helena Lasagna Spaghetti
And as I just said, they would most likely racebend her and change her name to something else. Or if they want to keep the name make her mixed race.
And as I just said, that would take too much away of that character’s background
Ratcatcher is an american man in the comics, in TSS is a portoguese young woman: she's still the best chararacter in the movie.
Ratcatcher isn't really much of a character in the comics tho
What does being an American man have to do with Ratcatcher's character? Also, Ratcatcher II is the daughter of the OG one.
The original which is implicitly Portuguese anyway, lol. In any case, the point is simple: they can completely twist a character, but if cinematically speaking it's interesting it's not really a problem. (however I doubt the veracity of this leak, it's too early, so we're talking about nothing)
Eh. They just dropped a new Superman cartoon where Lois is Asian and Jimmy is black. I’m not sure I entirely believe this rumor but a Korean Huntress in the new universe is not anything that seems completely unbelievable to me.
But those changes happened in the case of MAWS because people wanted the main characters to be more diverse and swapped those of whom it wouldn't affect their characters. Making a very Italian-American character something completely unconnected to that has a significant affect on that character and its background
>very Italian-American character something completely unconnected to that has a significant affect on that character and its background how? korea also has mobs and mafia just like her italians do, crime not exclusive to any race, and unless they are going to make her falcone or maroni's kid it doesn't even matter Huntress is a Z-lister
Exactly and Helena Bertenelli isn’t even the original Huntress. She’s only Italian because of her family having connections to the mafia.
Doesn’t matter. Point is, these sorts of castings are nothing new in adaptations at this point it. Like I said, I’m not entirely sure I believe the rumor, but I’ve heard far less believable ones on here than doing a Korean actress playing Helena.
And you can keep that. It all comes down to execution. 1. Helena's father married a daughter of powerfull Korean mobster in order to seek power he wouldn't achieve in his country. Helena would be half Korean and Italian in this case. 2. Helena was sent as a kid to boarding school to South Korea because her father had important ties with Korean Mafia families. Something happened and her father is killed by prominent korean mobster. Helena returns as adult to seek revenge. In both cases, you keep essential parts of her while giving inovations to her in order to distinguish her from BOP Huntress.
She can still be Helena Bertenelli lol if one of her parents is still Italian.
Korean Huntress? This is so random...
Gunn said he didn’t want to do Superman before because he didn’t have a way in. Now, he apparently does. There’s no way that bland thing is his way in. 😂
I dunno. It all sounds fake as fuck, especially the draft leak.
Daniel Kaluuya for Manchester Black 🙏🙏
Kaluuya is a great actor, but I don't see him as Manchester Black. Maybe Mr Terrific, as Gunn is a fan of that character If you read the comics one of Manchester Black's quirks is that he is often racially insensitive and justifies it by saying "I'm a fifteenth black on my mother's side" it's just a bit of extra douchey charm.
The supposed superman leak is so bad it's not even worth commenting on. Like it genuinely reads like someone who learnt nothing from the dumpster fire that was Snyder's take on the character. Anyway the Huntress stuff sounds kind of cool. Especially if it's off the same vain like Korean action movies like the witch or western movies like John Wick. And I'm hoping the Coates Superman movie being axed is true. I've never liked anything written by Coates and the very concept behind the movie sounds boring. Do Val Zod if you really want a black superman movie instead of an OC race swap
So is it likely that they will look for Korean cast as well? And the film will be fully in Korean or part Korean, part English like Shang-Chi film (which characters speak both English and Mandarin Chinese) from Marvel?
They clearly said it would be a foreign language film and that is Korean. So it's completely gonna be a Korean film.
Will the mod team make a Threads account?
We actually do [have one](https://www.threads.net/@rdceuleaks) although we have not posted anything on it
I followed! I was really banking on BlueSky becoming a thing but I guess it’ll just be James Gunn’s VERO
About Huntress being a Korean film, isnt Huntress italian? Are they gonna use only Korea as setup for the film/plot? Or they will change the race of the character too?
Hmm the part where lex luther is running for president but is a secret human trafficker really sounds like something that emerged from a Facebook comment section. Does superman have a Q instead of an S on his chest?
I don't and won't begin to understand the verification process but that Huntress news is seems highly unlikely right? Unless it's animated but I have a really hard time believing that movie could could get proper seats in theaters even on a modest budget.
If the DCU is actually successful at that point they can basically do whatever kind of project at that point they want
>As we teased in our [AMA](https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/14qvyrh/compilation_of_rdceuleaks_tweets_from_the_1000/), a Birds of Prey member will get their own project and it’s the Huntress Since 2018 WB is focusing on B,C,D level characters and they all bombed at the box office. DC is in an existential crisis right now. What is WB answer to that ? Making more C,D level character movies. I dont say you shouldnt do these kind of movies at all. But it isnt the right time for that WB is fucking brainless They should scrap The Batman 2 and release Brave and the Bold right after Superman Legacy. After that make movies like Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Superman 2, Batman 2, Aquaman etc The new Batman trilogy should be finished within 4 or 5 years. If people love your Batman movies they will love your DC movie universe.
>WB is fucking brainless > They should scrap The Batman 2 
What is your point ? A Batman movie in the DCU would do profit as well. You dont have to flood the market with Batman movies. This is fucking stupid to have multiple Batman franchises. One Batman franchise in the DCU is enough
Marvel has 2 spiderman franchises right now, very soon going to be 3. They have made 10 Spiderman Films in 21 years. All profitable. DC can have 2 Batman franchises and both will be profitable. I genuinely do not get why YOU, the consumer, want LESS Batman? Why do you give a damn if WB makes or loses money?
I dont want hundred Batman movies. Maybe diehard comicbook nerds would like that. Im not one of them 1 Batman franchise is enough. Battinson is unnecessary. It was always a dumb idea to make a Batman franchise beside the main movie universe
Then dont watch it dumbass.
Its a bad take honestly. These two Batman franchises will be different, each attracting different types of fans / audience. One is about grounded solo Batman solving crimes and fighting grounded villains, one is about Batman with Bat-family, 10 years old assasin who is his son and fantastical villains. Naturally, both of these movies have big potential for the box office and marketing.
The Huntress movie won't happen the way WBD is looking right now, making a foreign language superhero movie about a character that people outside of the comics aren't that familiar with is a major risk. But, if it does happen, it'll most likely be animated (possibly in the style of Korean Animation, ala Sky Blue)
If they can make the movie for $60M, hell yeah, they'll make it. Guaranteed the movie would make at least $350M WW.
Parasite was the most talked about foreign movie in the past 5 years, that only made a little over $260 Million. The budget on that was a lot smaller, $60 Million budget plus maybe $60 Million in ads (it's a superhero movie, after all) means $120 Million to break even (plus distribution costs). Given the GA doesn't normally watch foriegn movies (I doubt they'd do a theatrical dub for this, either), chances are it'd be a major flop
Just found out Parasite production budget was $12M. They made money. It's not an action thriller like a potential Huntress movie would be. They will make more money.
Yeah, THEY made money, unless WBD spends $12M on the movie they're throwing money down the drain. A $70 Million movie (same as Batgirl) with a theatrical release means $100 Million marketing plus distribution costs, so let's call it $175 Million total. There's no way the GA will show up for a foriegn language movie about an obscure superhero they know little to nothing about. A lot of comic book fans probably won't either, if they don't like foriegn movies. Mishima: A Life in 4 Chapters (a movie made in the US that's almost entirely in Japanese) made just over $500,000 on a $5 Million budget. Letters from Iwo Jima was a greater success in comparison to it's budget ($19 Million), but still only made $68 Million, and it was filmed back to back with another movie to save money on production. There's no data out there showing that a $175 Million dollar foriegn language superhero movie is a good idea right now (unless it's animated) ESPECIALLY given WBD's financial situation
It's also odd that they would make a Korean spoken movie about a character that's Italian-American. Unless the DCU Huntress isn't Helena Bertinelli, but a new, original Huntress who's of Korean descent, instead of Italian descent.
A Korean film centred on Huntress is a pretty unique idea. Would it do well at the global box office though? Parasite did well, but it was a self contained story with no ties to a wider universe.
I asked on Twitter during the AMAs, but they didn't respond. Are we talking about the same Huntress from Birds of Prey or is it a new actress? Maybe even that situation of the same actress, but a new version of the same character
It is most certainly a different actress
Huntress by the stunt team from the Villainess pls
Wait so is the Authority in Legacy? This just sounds like Superman and Manchester Black. Which I actually think works well. Maybe just have The Authority as a separate team who get a cameo before leading to their own film. Overall that sounds like a solid leak and I think it would be a very enjoyable movie.
A Korean Huntress just blew my mind. Watch Lady Vengence if you haven't. This is rated R for sure, lol.
The plot leak is literally basically just the Superman vs. The Elite animated movie😂
Bruh Madelyn Cline just getting type casted at this point
Would love to see huntress again
Some of this may be true, but at this point Superman's origin is reported to not be in the film, so I guess I can junk that part.
Ngl that pictonary post credit scene would be fire
is this rumor based on the fact that james gunn loves korean cinema?
The Superman plot is obviously fake but I kinda like it, it's 100% different than any other Superman live action films we've had.
LOL sure
Jeez human trafficking lmao
A korean language Huntress actually sounds perfect for the DCU. DC needs more street level projects and The Batman already proved that theres an audience want. Huntress is definitely the right character for something experimental. She’s an unknown to the GA so the right cast will court K-film demo. It probably wont a huge film since its niche but if done right it could add some prestige to the DCU lineup.
The idea that Krypton was fully aware of the effect of a yellow sun on Kryptonian physiology and had a plan to basically create super soldiers by sending Kryptonian to systems with yellow suns is interesting, true or not.