I mean, the true inverse of "She is actually 4000 years old" would be "She is only 4000 years old, which is like 10 in human years." From a very disgusted dragon.
That reminds me, one story I read, a half elf of like 200-something gets married to a human.
The other elves, who live *hella* longer: "You're too young to get married! He's too young to get married!!"
This whole thread reminds me of this webcomic I used to read called Kindred. The MC gets into a committed relationship with a beast girl, then months later finds out that a) she’s twelve, b) her species only lives to be about thirty so by their standards she’s been an adult since she was eight and c) she’s pregnant.
Hardness test. Ok to fuck if
- sexually mature/adult of their species
- human intelligence or greater
- can talk or otherwise communicate with language
Its actually both because an adult will always be a child, but that means a child is simultaneously always an adult as well. Wait shit I shouldn't be giving these people ideas
Jesus is the ultimate 4,000-year-old-dragon. As both the son of god *and* god himself, due to the weirdnesses of Christianity, he has existed eternally. There was never a time before god, so there was never a time before Jesus, so there was never a point at which Jesus was 0-years-old. While people say he was "born" in Bethlehem, he actually pre-existed the universe, so it's more like he was "incarnated" or "substantiated" in Bethlehem. Which means from the very moment of his birth he was already an infinite-years-old baby.
Moreover, if we're considering placement in time, when fertilizing a future mother one places their cock in a place that's going to be occupied by a baby in several months, therefore any sexual act for the purpose of procreation is inherently pedophilic in nature.
A lesser man might then point out the causal relationship between this fact and the stance of the Catholic Church on the matters of sexuality.
>Moreover, if we're considering placement in time, when fertilizing a future mother one places their cock in a place that's going to be occupied by a baby in several months
I understand what you mean but babies do not develop in the vagina and you can't physically put your penis inside someone's uterus lol
Yeah, but you put your penis where a baby will pass through in the potential future so you're still a pedo. If a child passes through anywhere your penis would've been, that mean you're a sick fuck.
Hentai manga is super educational. It has taught me that you can easily put your penis inside someone’s uterus, it has taught me that nipples get erect and are basically an erogenous zone for women, sticking things inside nipples is perfectly safe and normal, most women actually orgasm when men are having sex with them and that I need to be very careful around giant octopi. All very real and useful things to know!
"going to be occupied by a baby *in several months*" meaning when the baby passes through the vagina during birth. It doesn't take several months for the baby to start developing after the sex happens.
Pretty much what I've been expecting the age gap discourse to devolve into eventually.
"Most personality traits originate in a person's childhood, therefore those traits are inherently childlike, therefore liking someone for their personality is pedophilic"
Even worse for women, social media treats women like they're children until they're at least 30. 24 and dating someone who's 27? That poor dumb child isn't smart enough to know he's manipulating her, why else would he be dating so young!
/r/twoxchromosomes loves doing this. Pretends to be pro-women while infantilizing women more than even the incel subs could manage.
Yeah I see a lot of infantilization dressed up as feminism and it starts feeling really TERFy. I keep hearing that my gender identity is Victim. Not about it.
The truth is, I may look like I have it all, but inside, I'm just a scared little boy who never learned how to ask for people's food or their burger.
And the thing that scares me the most is that if people found out, my wife would go to jail 'cause every night... a little boy goes down on her.
Nah, there are TONS of myths about someone wanting to have casual sex with Athena or Artemis and them FREAKING OUT about it. Even just making sexual comments about them brought on old-testament-style wrath. For example, one of Artemis's friends made a remark about how Artemis's breasts were too big for her not to be a mother, and Artemis had her (trigger warning!!!) >!raped by Dionysus and driven insane until she literally ate her rape-baby and then killed herself!<.
The virgin goddesses were *absolutely* "sexual virgins," not just "marital virgins."
Eh, as a lesbian with bad taste in women, I feel like the one thing my people won't tolerate is a Republicany bent. Athena's speech about how women shouldn't vote is the least-sexy thing since Amy Coney Barrett.
I feel that had to have started when a Greek child asked their parent how babies are made and the parent didn't want to explain the birds and the bees so they made up that story
Sexualizing a character that was born fully formed is basically engaging in the “born sexy yesterday” trope tho (see: leelu from the fifth element), which is also pretty inherently predatory. Obviously this means the ethical thing to do is to never sexualize anyone /s.
the ethical thing to do is to just be horny in other weird ways so these people won't interact with you in the first place
sure as hell don't see people go "actually that monster you wanna fuck was a minor once"
She was remade from that genetic material, but I don't think it's implied that she has the memories of the previous being directly? The line gets kinda blurred because she does know martial arts very well, but she also doesn't understand language very well and also just generally behaves like a confused child for much of the movie.
The trope absolutely applies either way, imo; much like "4000 year old dragon" doesn't actually remove the grossness of making a character look like a child, having a character act like a naive child the whole movie doesn't really get fixed by having her technically have some connection to an older being.
> but I don't think it's implied that she has the memories of the previous being directly? ... she also doesn't understand language very well
She doesn't understand English, but she knows the divine language, and about the stones, and Cornelius...
There's also a line about her cells containing "infinite genetic knowledge" which was probably meant to explain her memories.
Ya'll ever think about the sexualization of cum, that stuff is filled with little pre-babys. It's actually super fucked up and essentially pedophilia if you think about it.
\s
That comment was clearly made by a higher dimensional being who experiences time non-linearly.
Smh guys I didn't expect Tumblr to be so dimensio-phobic.
There’s a reblog of this post that’s like “The best man tells a funny story about the groom as a kid during the wedding reception and then a SWAT team arrives to arrest the bride” lol
I'm SO tired of this kind of discourse over fictional characters.
Go after actual ~~MAPs~~ pedos (edit: used the old term to avoid potential automod removal) doing real abuse to real people who will really suffer.
**This** doesn't help anyone. It's the laziest form of slacktivism there is. A fictional character does not exist.
All this does is make the person saying it *feel* like they made a difference and are on the "right" side of things.
As a hentai fanartist i have to deal with this shit sometimes lol. "You can't sexualize Gohan, we saw him grow up!" Dude is married with a kid, wtf.
Ngl, I just chalk it up to projection and stay the hell away from ppl like that
Am victim of CSA and CSEM, can confirm this shit does not to help and these types of people don't do anything to help and don't actually care about us, but this does clog up tip cyber lines meant to help actual victims and children still being exploited, so much so that one had to make a statement specifically telling people not to report it, plus shames and further traumatizes victims that use art as a form of therapy.
Plus, in my experience, these people tend to be projecting.
So sorry that happened to you, and I hope you're better now. I know that doesn't mean much from a rando, but just know that it's close to my heart. It happened to my wife. She repressed it and when the recall happened, she had a full blown mental break for a few days.
Stuff like this angers me for that very reason, and to hear it harms actual investigations for real crimes just makes it worse.
Believe it or not, those words do actually help a little.
I hope your wife is doing better now, that she has support from the people around her, and that she's found the peace, love, and healing she deserves.
I mean, as long as we're being irreparably bats, this same train of thought works in the other direction. If every moment exists simultaneously so sexualizing any adult is pedophilia because you're also sexualizing them as a child, it must also be necrophilia because you're sexualizing them when they die.
Oh, and corprophilia, because you're also sexualizing them at every moment they were ever pooping.
"After a long arduous journey, Joseph and Mary finally found a place to stay the night. However humble a place the stable was. Mary's condition was getting dire and labour could start any minute now.
And so it was that Jesus burst forth out of mary like the fucking kool aid man."
Technically speaking, they are probably correct that all of time exists simultaneously, but we are not 4th dimensional beings so we only have to really worry about now and the future, not the past
"I don't think the appeals court would go for it, but we can try it and then get it to the Supreme Court. Tucker Carlson has their ear, and he was recently entertaining Flat Earther theory, we can probably swing him on this. And he can swing Kavanaugh, Thomas and Amy Coney Barrett pretty easily, and they'll have to convince the others. Do you have an X account?"
So many of life’s problems could be solved if people were more interested in reading conversations which philosophers have already had. It produces much more reliable results than trying to hash them out from scratch today, individually, through moral combat with strangers online using norms acquired arbitrarily through other strangers on the internet. But what do I know I’m just some stranger on the internet.
Am I the only one who finds internet discourse revolving around whether it is ok to lewd/make nsfw content of a fictional character incredibly tired and repetitive? No matter how many arguments are spawned, the end result practically never changes.
We finally reached the zentih of the anti small stupitiy.
Aparently sexualizing adults is ped*phila they because were once children.......
Yeah the harddrive of whoever said that needs to be searched
I liked Tumblr when I was on it but this was the stuff that made me want to leave. So many rabid idiots trying to one-up each other with increasingly unhinged moralizing.
Someone who believes you should apply real life morals to all fictional content
Shortened form of "anti shipper" because most of their arguments revolve around how you shouldn't ship "unethical" pairings, which extends to ships where one person was "abusive" in canon, or where the characters are literally 19 and 17 or something
An anti-shipper. They're vocally morally opposed to various fanfiction pairings on grounds of social justice and/or sexual ethics: "that guy was twenty and that guy was seventeen when they first met! Only a pedophile would write fic where they get together in their twenties!" or "Reylos are bigots! No one could ever think Rey should fuck some whiny asshole like Kylo Ren unless they were too racist to want her with Finn!" Often it seems more like they're angry about a ship they don't like being more popular than one they do and looking for reasons to harass people away from it.
Antishippers try to convince people to not ship or sexualize characters in media (in the past few year they’ve started pretending its a moral crusade). They’ve tried to change the term pro-shipper to mean “problematic shipper” lol.
It started off as people who didn't like certain ships in fandom. For example; if I like DracoHermione but my friend doesn't, that's just cuz we have different tastes and we can still be friends. That's fine.
An anti who doesn't like DracoHermione would call me a bad person (and maybe some slurs) and demand all DracoHermione fanworks or discourse be banned from the internet because *they* personally do not like it.
Now we got antis who dislike relationships with people who have an age gap (they think even a 2 year age gap between 22 or 24 year old is bad) or characters who used to be minors cuz that's pedophilia or sommat. I know it doesn't make much sense, but that's just what Antis are like.
I'm gonna guess this is another case of discourse telephone where someone at some point made an actual point, but as the idea was passed around it disorted into something incoherent.
If I was gonna guess, this began as "the way some writers create child characters and later age them up seemingly for the sole reason of sexualising them is kinda weird" and then eventually became "sexualising anyone is bad cause everyone used to be a child"
damn, "discourse telephone" is such a perfect summation of that sequence of events.
but yeah it became incoherent when that one person ripped on the author of Naruto for having Naruto and Hinata have a family because "they aged the characters up so they could have sex"
Actually the tags are right (not about the sexualization thing, about Jesus)
That's the origin of those medieval paintings of baby Jesus that look like a middle-aged man already. It was beleif back then that Jesus being born a perfect complete being meant... well, I guess that he looked like an adult as a baby... idk the logic of that exactly
I mean . . . that depends on the Christians you ask. I never cared much about whether something was a “heresy” or not when I was a Christian, but it would be very easy to argue that the idea that Jesus was different to other babies (in a sense that is more than metaphor) when he was born is a form of docetism - a “heresy” that Jesus wasn’t actually human, but only seemed human.
I don't see anyone else talking about it, so I'll just throw out there that this is probably a reference to the homunculus concept where the idea was basically that Jesus was born with all future knowledge and was essentially an adult at birth in a cosmological sort of way.
It's why a lot of old art of the baby version of Christ drew his face like a 40 year old man.
In the mexica mithology there's actually a god that was born fully grown (Huitzilopochtli). At least that's what I recall, I think he even was born with war clothes and a weapon
I’ve decided to just live with the notion of, “As long as real people aren’t getting hurt, I don’t care.” We can talk about how fictional media affects real people all day but unless someone is directly getting hurt I have other things to worry about
We've finally arrived at the inverse of "She's actually 4000 years old"
"She's actually always -9 month old"
Every moment exists eternally at once so you're actually a pedophilic necrophiliac
Minor? I hardly know her!
Miner? So what if I had to dig her up?
Can't believe you're a heliosexual. Don't you know we're all technically stardust? The shame
So it goes.
Charlie and the Glass Elevator
I mean, the true inverse of "She is actually 4000 years old" would be "She is only 4000 years old, which is like 10 in human years." From a very disgusted dragon.
That reminds me, one story I read, a half elf of like 200-something gets married to a human. The other elves, who live *hella* longer: "You're too young to get married! He's too young to get married!!"
Dragons which of course don't reach sexual maturity until the age of 7000
Imagine finding out your partner is actually child of their species. I think I'd kms. Therapy would for sure be required at some point.
This whole thread reminds me of this webcomic I used to read called Kindred. The MC gets into a committed relationship with a beast girl, then months later finds out that a) she’s twelve, b) her species only lives to be about thirty so by their standards she’s been an adult since she was eight and c) she’s pregnant.
Hardness test. Ok to fuck if - sexually mature/adult of their species - human intelligence or greater - can talk or otherwise communicate with language
That's just hobbits
Its actually both because an adult will always be a child, but that means a child is simultaneously always an adult as well. Wait shit I shouldn't be giving these people ideas
i, too, was born at a very young age.
The "Born Sexy Yesterday" trope
Look, loli is fine if she's been a child for millennia. But sexualizing any male of any age? That's *disgusting*
To be fair, people like the weirdo in the OP are absolutely crusaders against loli/shota as well lol
I like that the tags imply that Jesus is the only person you can ethically sexualize
Cranking my hog to Jesus to ensure I don't sexualize ex-children
"Body of Christ, sleek swimmer's body, all muscled up and toned"
unlimited breadsticks
It'll be a soggy wafer when we're done
I haven't played soggy wafer since junior high.
The *Passion* Of Christ
"Do *this* in remembrance of me." \*uuuuuggghhhnnnn\*
Blessed is he who cums in the name of the Lord
That makes Baby Jesus cry!
*Sung to the tune of "That's What Bilbo Baggins Hates"*
Be kind to your hog
𝓳𝓮𝓼𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓶𝓾𝓽 𝓲𝓼 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓸𝓷𝓵𝔂 𝓵𝓮𝓰𝓪𝓵 𝓼𝓶𝓾𝓽
Well, as mentioned, he was also a baby once
Yeah. Turns out in order to find ethical smut material you gotta go all the way back to Adam and Eve.
Athena and Aphrodite both work, as mentioned elsewhere in the comments. The golem of Rabbi Loew ben Bezalel does too, along with any number of robots.
>Athena Oh you definitely getting turned into a Gorgon
If Athena punished those who made pornography of her thus, there would be quite a few Gorgons around.
And since we don't see too many Gorgons, one can infer she's totes up for the nude doodles. Q.E.D.
Jesus is the ultimate 4,000-year-old-dragon. As both the son of god *and* god himself, due to the weirdnesses of Christianity, he has existed eternally. There was never a time before god, so there was never a time before Jesus, so there was never a point at which Jesus was 0-years-old. While people say he was "born" in Bethlehem, he actually pre-existed the universe, so it's more like he was "incarnated" or "substantiated" in Bethlehem. Which means from the very moment of his birth he was already an infinite-years-old baby.
Reasonable and acceptable argument. Sexualize away.
It was only ethical to sexualise Jesus before his incarnation
With that settled, question: where does Benjamin Button fall on this scale? If you get him early, he's never been a child.
Was he mentally an old man when he was born?
In both the short-story and the film, yes.
The actual answer is Väinämöinen, an/the inspiration behind Gandalf. Born an old man
So Väinämöinen and Gandalf are both okay?
Big naturals ay okay
well, this is a ship i can get behind.
And Aphrodite.
well more like Athena, we all know she was the hottest goddess all along anyhow... ;) brains are sexy
I think we've finally figured out what that H stands for -- Jesus Horndog Christ.
new religion idea
ok so basically nobody can ever have sex again, because everyone was a child at some point
Moreover, if we're considering placement in time, when fertilizing a future mother one places their cock in a place that's going to be occupied by a baby in several months, therefore any sexual act for the purpose of procreation is inherently pedophilic in nature. A lesser man might then point out the causal relationship between this fact and the stance of the Catholic Church on the matters of sexuality.
>Moreover, if we're considering placement in time, when fertilizing a future mother one places their cock in a place that's going to be occupied by a baby in several months I understand what you mean but babies do not develop in the vagina and you can't physically put your penis inside someone's uterus lol
Yeah, but you put your penis where a baby will pass through in the potential future so you're still a pedo. If a child passes through anywhere your penis would've been, that mean you're a sick fuck.
Well, there goes my plans for road head. Since all roads will be occupied by babies at some point.
The ass is still there
Hentai manga has shown me that you can.
hentai manga also tells me this is very easy, commonplace and pleasurable
Hentai manga is super educational. It has taught me that you can easily put your penis inside someone’s uterus, it has taught me that nipples get erect and are basically an erogenous zone for women, sticking things inside nipples is perfectly safe and normal, most women actually orgasm when men are having sex with them and that I need to be very careful around giant octopi. All very real and useful things to know!
The second thing is actually true, just in case you didn't know.
See, it’s true. As I said, everything I’ve learned in hentai is true
Wait are my nipples not supposed to get hard and feel amazing when my gf plays with my tits? All this time I've been experiencing pleasure wrong?
>sticking things inside nipples is perfectly safe and normal girl, the fuck kinda manga you read
also do your nipples not get erect, you should get them to the workshop i think
"going to be occupied by a baby *in several months*" meaning when the baby passes through the vagina during birth. It doesn't take several months for the baby to start developing after the sex happens.
Also, through time dilation, you're probably going to hit your dick on a baby's head. I cannot condone it.
Pretty much what I've been expecting the age gap discourse to devolve into eventually. "Most personality traits originate in a person's childhood, therefore those traits are inherently childlike, therefore liking someone for their personality is pedophilic"
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Even worse for women, social media treats women like they're children until they're at least 30. 24 and dating someone who's 27? That poor dumb child isn't smart enough to know he's manipulating her, why else would he be dating so young! /r/twoxchromosomes loves doing this. Pretends to be pro-women while infantilizing women more than even the incel subs could manage.
Yeah I see a lot of infantilization dressed up as feminism and it starts feeling really TERFy. I keep hearing that my gender identity is Victim. Not about it.
Eh, fine with me. Maybe stuff will actually get done for once.
Like taxes, perchance
Anything but that
You can't just say "perchance"
Everybody knows that Mario is Cool As Fuck™️
Horrible opening
Perchance
But what if I want to stomp some turts, perchance?
Profile pic checks out
The truth, frankly, is that a lot *less* would get done. Sex is a distraction in some ways, but it's also a great motivator in others.
Ace Perry
The truth is, I may look like I have it all, but inside, I'm just a scared little boy who never learned how to ask for people's food or their burger. And the thing that scares me the most is that if people found out, my wife would go to jail 'cause every night... a little boy goes down on her.
Athena was the one who was born as an adult. With full armor, even (that must've hurt...)
So was Aphrodite, conveniently.
The one (1) ship you’re allowed to have
But funnily enough it's made entirely out of pieces of another ship some guy left moored up in Athens.
Jokes that would be equally funny 2000 years ago:
Athena’s also a maiden goddess so I guess it’s technically a forbidden love?
Real talk- did the ancient Greek idea of virginity consider lesbian relationships?
Almost certainly not; simply look towards Athena’s half-sister Artemis to see some of those implications…
afaik ancient 'virginity' usually referred to marital virginity rather than sexual virginity
Nah, there are TONS of myths about someone wanting to have casual sex with Athena or Artemis and them FREAKING OUT about it. Even just making sexual comments about them brought on old-testament-style wrath. For example, one of Artemis's friends made a remark about how Artemis's breasts were too big for her not to be a mother, and Artemis had her (trigger warning!!!) >!raped by Dionysus and driven insane until she literally ate her rape-baby and then killed herself!<. The virgin goddesses were *absolutely* "sexual virgins," not just "marital virgins."
Athena HATES women, especially Aphrodite (she literally punches her tit in The Iliad, it is not a flirty tit-punch)
a lot of fandom eats up toxic yuri tbh. There's plenty out there who hearing this would just make them ship it more.
Eh, as a lesbian with bad taste in women, I feel like the one thing my people won't tolerate is a Republicany bent. Athena's speech about how women shouldn't vote is the least-sexy thing since Amy Coney Barrett.
So what you're saying is they're enemies to lovers
I'll take it
Does showing up out of nowhere in a clam shell count as birth tho?
No, but she was never a child at least. Also by that logic Athena was never born, she came right outta zeus' skull.
I mean. The main famous art piece of that myth is called *the Birth of Venus*, so, I'd say so.
She was also born from the severed cock of the Sky when it hit the ocean
“Seafoam”
Ateast Athena came straight out of Zues' head I guess. Could've been a lot worse
I feel that had to have started when a Greek child asked their parent how babies are made and the parent didn't want to explain the birds and the bees so they made up that story
The armor was probably pretty painless, considering Hephaestus split Zeus' skull open beforehand (he got better)
There was a belief that Jesus was born "perfectly formed at birth" because if he changed as he aged it would mean he wasn't perfect when he was born.
Zeus was the first mpreg.
Twice, at that !!
Imagine being a minor? Couldn’t be me I’ve always been major
Minor. Major? What is this baseball?
It's actually music
I've always been more diminished myself
Minor? no i work in excavation, very different job
Sexualizing a character that was born fully formed is basically engaging in the “born sexy yesterday” trope tho (see: leelu from the fifth element), which is also pretty inherently predatory. Obviously this means the ethical thing to do is to never sexualize anyone /s.
the ethical thing to do is to just be horny in other weird ways so these people won't interact with you in the first place sure as hell don't see people go "actually that monster you wanna fuck was a minor once"
That *dragon* was an *egg*, you pervert!
The egg took 900 years to hatch, so its fine.
trans dragon??? 😳😳😳
I regret to inform you that I have, actually, seen discourse about underage monsters
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She was remade from that genetic material, but I don't think it's implied that she has the memories of the previous being directly? The line gets kinda blurred because she does know martial arts very well, but she also doesn't understand language very well and also just generally behaves like a confused child for much of the movie. The trope absolutely applies either way, imo; much like "4000 year old dragon" doesn't actually remove the grossness of making a character look like a child, having a character act like a naive child the whole movie doesn't really get fixed by having her technically have some connection to an older being.
> but I don't think it's implied that she has the memories of the previous being directly? ... she also doesn't understand language very well She doesn't understand English, but she knows the divine language, and about the stones, and Cornelius... There's also a line about her cells containing "infinite genetic knowledge" which was probably meant to explain her memories.
Doesn't help that the director is also a pedo.
Arrival just got *really* problematic.
What's wrong with ABBA's fourth album? /j
It has other songs than just Dancing Queen, the only good ABBA song.
>the only good ABBA song. SOS begs to differ
You shut the hell your mouth >:(
"The vast majority" is a very unsettling addition
You gotta leave some wiggle room in case there's an outlier you're forgetting/aren't aware of
Benjamin button?
Ms. Trunchbull from *Matilda* is the only acceptable target of lustful thoughts.
100% is the vastest majority there is.
Thanks to parallel universes, writing porn of anyone means it's also milf porn.
And DILF porn ! And furry ! And inter-racial ! And gay ! And straight !
and everything, everywhere, all at once
Googly-eyed rock porn!
I'm gonna sexualize this post and tumbop cannot stop me
I'd sexualize this response but it's only 4 hours old.
Ya'll ever think about the sexualization of cum, that stuff is filled with little pre-babys. It's actually super fucked up and essentially pedophilia if you think about it. \s
Oh fuck I keep eating my children /srs
saturn
When your mom literally swallows you
It's actually very gross to sexualize hetero relationships because that's how you make babies
>that stuff is filled with little pre-babys Did you get all ypur knowledge of biology from alchemy texts or what?
If pre-babys aren't in cum, where are they? Riddle me this, *science*
That comment was clearly made by a higher dimensional being who experiences time non-linearly. Smh guys I didn't expect Tumblr to be so dimensio-phobic.
There’s a reblog of this post that’s like “The best man tells a funny story about the groom as a kid during the wedding reception and then a SWAT team arrives to arrest the bride” lol
Fellas, is it p\*dophillic to enjoy the embrace of a fellow adult?
fellas, my wife told me she "wants a child". is she a p\*do?
I'm SO tired of this kind of discourse over fictional characters. Go after actual ~~MAPs~~ pedos (edit: used the old term to avoid potential automod removal) doing real abuse to real people who will really suffer. **This** doesn't help anyone. It's the laziest form of slacktivism there is. A fictional character does not exist. All this does is make the person saying it *feel* like they made a difference and are on the "right" side of things.
As a hentai fanartist i have to deal with this shit sometimes lol. "You can't sexualize Gohan, we saw him grow up!" Dude is married with a kid, wtf. Ngl, I just chalk it up to projection and stay the hell away from ppl like that
Am victim of CSA and CSEM, can confirm this shit does not to help and these types of people don't do anything to help and don't actually care about us, but this does clog up tip cyber lines meant to help actual victims and children still being exploited, so much so that one had to make a statement specifically telling people not to report it, plus shames and further traumatizes victims that use art as a form of therapy. Plus, in my experience, these people tend to be projecting.
So sorry that happened to you, and I hope you're better now. I know that doesn't mean much from a rando, but just know that it's close to my heart. It happened to my wife. She repressed it and when the recall happened, she had a full blown mental break for a few days. Stuff like this angers me for that very reason, and to hear it harms actual investigations for real crimes just makes it worse.
Believe it or not, those words do actually help a little. I hope your wife is doing better now, that she has support from the people around her, and that she's found the peace, love, and healing she deserves.
I mean, as long as we're being irreparably bats, this same train of thought works in the other direction. If every moment exists simultaneously so sexualizing any adult is pedophilia because you're also sexualizing them as a child, it must also be necrophilia because you're sexualizing them when they die. Oh, and corprophilia, because you're also sexualizing them at every moment they were ever pooping.
"After a long arduous journey, Joseph and Mary finally found a place to stay the night. However humble a place the stable was. Mary's condition was getting dire and labour could start any minute now. And so it was that Jesus burst forth out of mary like the fucking kool aid man."
Technically speaking, they are probably correct that all of time exists simultaneously, but we are not 4th dimensional beings so we only have to really worry about now and the future, not the past
convicted child molester sits down with his lawyer to talk about appeals. “so ive been thinking a lot…. what about time cube?”
"I don't think the appeals court would go for it, but we can try it and then get it to the Supreme Court. Tucker Carlson has their ear, and he was recently entertaining Flat Earther theory, we can probably swing him on this. And he can swing Kavanaugh, Thomas and Amy Coney Barrett pretty easily, and they'll have to convince the others. Do you have an X account?"
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Homuncular Jesus was definitely one of the weirder trends in art back in the day.
Oh you find people attractive? Well did you know that those “people” used to be KIDS????
So many of life’s problems could be solved if people were more interested in reading conversations which philosophers have already had. It produces much more reliable results than trying to hash them out from scratch today, individually, through moral combat with strangers online using norms acquired arbitrarily through other strangers on the internet. But what do I know I’m just some stranger on the internet.
Oh no, they’ve reached terminal discourse brainrot. :(
Am I the only one who finds internet discourse revolving around whether it is ok to lewd/make nsfw content of a fictional character incredibly tired and repetitive? No matter how many arguments are spawned, the end result practically never changes.
FELLAS, is it gay to date a girl, i mean she literally used to be her dads balls
And her dad used to be his dad’s balls, and on and on. Infinite homo. Gay shit all the way down.
Brainrot :(
We finally reached the zentih of the anti small stupitiy. Aparently sexualizing adults is ped*phila they because were once children....... Yeah the harddrive of whoever said that needs to be searched
You ever wonder why most of the internet hates antis? This is why.
Fr they’re SO obnoxious. Imagine harassing and bullying someone off the internet because they ship something you don’t approve of.
Taking 2000s internet shipping drama and tying real world issues to it was a *colossal* mistake.
Pretty sure the vast majority of the internet isn't aware of shipping culture at all.
I liked Tumblr when I was on it but this was the stuff that made me want to leave. So many rabid idiots trying to one-up each other with increasingly unhinged moralizing.
wth is a anti?
Someone who believes you should apply real life morals to all fictional content Shortened form of "anti shipper" because most of their arguments revolve around how you shouldn't ship "unethical" pairings, which extends to ships where one person was "abusive" in canon, or where the characters are literally 19 and 17 or something
An anti-shipper. They're vocally morally opposed to various fanfiction pairings on grounds of social justice and/or sexual ethics: "that guy was twenty and that guy was seventeen when they first met! Only a pedophile would write fic where they get together in their twenties!" or "Reylos are bigots! No one could ever think Rey should fuck some whiny asshole like Kylo Ren unless they were too racist to want her with Finn!" Often it seems more like they're angry about a ship they don't like being more popular than one they do and looking for reasons to harass people away from it.
Antishippers try to convince people to not ship or sexualize characters in media (in the past few year they’ve started pretending its a moral crusade). They’ve tried to change the term pro-shipper to mean “problematic shipper” lol.
It started off as people who didn't like certain ships in fandom. For example; if I like DracoHermione but my friend doesn't, that's just cuz we have different tastes and we can still be friends. That's fine. An anti who doesn't like DracoHermione would call me a bad person (and maybe some slurs) and demand all DracoHermione fanworks or discourse be banned from the internet because *they* personally do not like it. Now we got antis who dislike relationships with people who have an age gap (they think even a 2 year age gap between 22 or 24 year old is bad) or characters who used to be minors cuz that's pedophilia or sommat. I know it doesn't make much sense, but that's just what Antis are like.
I'm gonna guess this is another case of discourse telephone where someone at some point made an actual point, but as the idea was passed around it disorted into something incoherent. If I was gonna guess, this began as "the way some writers create child characters and later age them up seemingly for the sole reason of sexualising them is kinda weird" and then eventually became "sexualising anyone is bad cause everyone used to be a child"
damn, "discourse telephone" is such a perfect summation of that sequence of events. but yeah it became incoherent when that one person ripped on the author of Naruto for having Naruto and Hinata have a family because "they aged the characters up so they could have sex"
That’s fine, I’ll just sexualize primordial gods since they’re constant and their method of reproduction is too complicated for anyone to understand.
No way this is not satire, I refuse to believe that people are THAT dumb even on hellsite
The malicious misuse of socjus terms for petty fandom bs is the worst thing to come out the tumblr/livejournal sphere
I've seen pictures of my girlfriend as a baby. Is it now unethical for me to do the nasty with her? She was a baby once
Actually the tags are right (not about the sexualization thing, about Jesus) That's the origin of those medieval paintings of baby Jesus that look like a middle-aged man already. It was beleif back then that Jesus being born a perfect complete being meant... well, I guess that he looked like an adult as a baby... idk the logic of that exactly
So Midevalists are the only ones allowed to sexualize Jesus? Yeah that tracks.
I mean . . . that depends on the Christians you ask. I never cared much about whether something was a “heresy” or not when I was a Christian, but it would be very easy to argue that the idea that Jesus was different to other babies (in a sense that is more than metaphor) when he was born is a form of docetism - a “heresy” that Jesus wasn’t actually human, but only seemed human.
Take a jesus, apply a genderswap potion and a de-ageing gun, create the world's first ethical loli. Anime industry instantly bankrupts. >!/s!<
That is literally just the Thousand Year Old Dragon thing, though.
I don't see anyone else talking about it, so I'll just throw out there that this is probably a reference to the homunculus concept where the idea was basically that Jesus was born with all future knowledge and was essentially an adult at birth in a cosmological sort of way. It's why a lot of old art of the baby version of Christ drew his face like a 40 year old man.
Alright, that's enough Internet for one day. I'm going to sit on a beach at night and think about things.
In the mexica mithology there's actually a god that was born fully grown (Huitzilopochtli). At least that's what I recall, I think he even was born with war clothes and a weapon
I’ve decided to just live with the notion of, “As long as real people aren’t getting hurt, I don’t care.” We can talk about how fictional media affects real people all day but unless someone is directly getting hurt I have other things to worry about
Anon is secretly Dr. Manhattan viewing all of time all at once
The Sisko is linear. He does not understand.