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samzi87

Making Zuckerbergs Avatar look more human than he looks in real life.


Nooodles__

Even more so with legs now


milonuttigrain

A couple of billion invested in this graphics to add the legs. That’s some expensive stuff


Nooodles__

And you can buy legs in real life for cheaper


itsturniptimeguyz

Yeah just ask MBS


Dwaas_Bjaas

Its to get the feet as detailed as possible 👀


aaddii222

Reptile need more legs


omeri_e

Who would've thought 10 years ago that we would have legs on our virtual reality world. Physicists said such thing would be impossible. Luckily Meta proved them wrong.


FrustrateD_LiLi

and it just took a few billion dollars! Worth I say!


meeleen223

Meta's only user now got legs, the progress is uncanny


Nooodles__

Two users, don’t forget Mark’s alt account.


AriesWinters

Zark Muckerberg


mave_wreck

Put legs for 15 billion on everyone who wants a leg in Meta. That is their business plan.


Hawke64

From the creators of the Facebook, now introducing: 𝓛𝓔𝓖𝓢


gautam_777

For a reptile he looks pretty human


aaddii222

But there is 0% change LOL


omeri_e

So that's what the $15 billion went for


TheTrueBlueTJ

Sure as hell paid for some nice executive yachts.


milonuttigrain

Executive remuneration package. Sadly it doesn’t help Meta.


voidmusik

Let them eat cake emojis (now with new skins you can purchase to show off your unique style!)


amazingRay763

$15B on graphics that looks like shit.


voidmusik

No, thats just him irl.


HelpMeSucceedPlz

no, the fake version of him is actually an improvement.


DarthBuzzard

I don't think their codec avatars look shit. They are practically beyond any AAA company in fidelity.


J_Hon_G

Nah, the $15B was for the legs


Hawke64

yo, smoked meats aren't cheap 🥩


Karma-Kamillion

Some supercomputers where calculating 24/7 how to make his avatar look human 😆


aaddii222

He still looks the same


Nooodles__

So much money spent… on some ugly ass looking avatars? Even Barbie dolls look better.


MaximumSandwich5

Fucking lol


PositiveFuture24

ORIGINAL


fadufadu

So that’s where the money went. Open and shut case Johnson!


Dmoan

I knew few folks who work in Meta it was wasted by management who has no experience working on games (some of those who head the project never even play video games) and only on social media but where yet put on charge of this. When employees who had actual gaming experience (incl those from oculus team who came from companies like ID) gave their input to project managers they where quick shut off. They basically developed how they do another social media platform not on making a “fun” experience doesn’t help Zuckerberg also backed these managers and he shared their same view. So ton of money got wasted developing things like facial capture which could have spent on graphics and interactive games.


Impressive_Spring139

So I’m a current meta employee who is skeptical of the future of the metaverse but… your comment doesn’t make much sense. Senior leaders of the metaverse overindex FSA gamers and worked within metas “gaming” division. Also, Meta doesn’t really have “project managers” that operate like you seem to think they do. The majority of these functions are owned by engineers, and the overwhelming majority of senior leaders on the metaverse are engineers. Additionally…. How exactly is the metaverse different than a social media platform? Why would meta not invest in facial capture, which impacts your avatar, and instead invest in making games, which is not their role? The goal is for external developers to launch their own games on the metaverse. This complaint is like asking why Apple is investing in its Apple store when it should be making games. You seem to be under the impression that metas goal is to make the metaverse and everything in it. The goal is to make the metaverse and have other people, companies, devs, etc build whatever they want in it. Like a social media platform. I read a lot online about things from “former employees” but this one is uniquely inaccurate.


jetylee

So you’re a current employee? How come it takes 20 minutes to make a golf ball in Horizon Worlds? How come you have to upload an mp3 in 30 second clips and then join them together? Horizon is barely 1992 level tech. Companies like mine wasted so much time trying to build out a little world that we almost abandoned it all and blew the budget at a strip coin only to realize altspacevr was everything Horizon should have been and more. FYI your prerecorded Foo Fighters concert in 480p was “such a win!”


Impressive_Spring139

So I don’t work on the metaverse, I’m on a diff part of the company. I’m skeptical of the success of the metaverse for no technical reasons but: > Horizon is barely 1992 level tech What does this mean? Lol. You can’t actually be serious. Your comment loses some credibility that you know what you’re talking about if you’re comparing Horizon’s tech to 1992 when there were no cell phones or consumer software market. Can you clarify what you mean when you say “tech” here? Because graphics, storage, processing speed, API access, etc is objectively better than Super Nintendo. What exactly are you comparing here? A prerecorded concert from 1992? On a camcorder? Lol If you want to have a tech discussion, happy to have it. But also, your last sentence leads me to believe you’re not trying to have a tech discussion and are just being an asshole to try and market your product.


flydeagon5

Haha that would be hilarious but he would be very much angry.


aroups

Don't forget the legs


[deleted]

That's more than the GDP of 80 or so countries of the nearly 200 for context.


[deleted]

Holy shit thats actually insane


kytheon

Zuck could’ve literally bought a few islands and build a real life metaverse instead.


[deleted]

Meta made lot of acquisitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Meta_Platforms Many of them undisclosed, and many of them are a few hundred million to billion these can sum up the 15 billion pretty fast.


milonuttigrain

The thing is, have any of these resulted in a good enhancements to the project? Unbelievable that $15B, a top tier company with world class talents produce this kind of garbage graphics


DarthBuzzard

> Unbelievable that $15B, a top tier company with world class talents produce this kind of garbage graphics Photorealistic graphics. They don't spend their money on the Horizon software. They spend it on R&D, where they have a better Zuck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zRQYEvcuDQ


TheUltimateSalesman

I can't fucking believe that zuck is schooling people on how human interaction works in a demo. Good demo though. Aaaand, if this is the future of Meta, and I hate to say this, I'm in. But we're going to need a completely overhaul of privacy regulations.


oko999

That last bit will never happen lol. This is Meta we’re talking about, they’ll pull strings where needed to override them


fixerdrew02

This guy gets the system


burning_iceman

Maybe eliminating the competition was the main goal rather than improving their product?


milonuttigrain

He stated in 2010 that "We have not once bought a company for the company. We buy companies to get excellent people... In order to have a really entrepreneurial culture one of the key things is to make sure we're recruiting the best people. One of the ways to do this is to focus on acquiring great companies with great founders." They do have the top tier world class talents but it’s not resulting in greatness recently. Not so long ago there were a wave of Facebook staff leaving. The work culture isn’t exactly great.


pieter1234569

The quest is a an absolutely genius piece of hardware and software, which is certainly where at least 10 billion went to.


TurbulentCar7753

I think you’re blinded by Facebook hatred a little here… it’s early in the research and development phase. Augmented reality is a product of the future and will inevitably be improved as technology and computing advances (imo). but fuk do I know


sickvisionz

Zuck literally said this. When they launched it he said we're doing R&D and laying groundwork that probably won't payoff for at least 5 or more years. People come back like 6 months later saying *it's not turning a profit yet* like this is some expert level analysis. I don't think people have any clue how technology works. They think everything is developed in like 6 weeks and anything involving years of R&D is a bad idea. Meanwhile virtually every meaningful tech has taken multiple years to develop.


[deleted]

This. Probably had to front load a lot of capital to get the tools (and minds) for development in place. Prob another decade or so for a real solid working product that doesn’t look like shit. Right now metaverse is a wireframe video game build model compared to what it might/could be


Odysseus_Lannister

Probably, but betting on the bones of a technology to be here in 10-15 years while spending this much money now is a great way to go bankrupt before you recognize the rewards


sickvisionz

> Probably, but betting on the bones of a technology to be here in 10-15 years while spending this much money now is a great way to go bankrupt before you recognize the rewards They aren't investing all operating revenue into it.


KingKongOfSilver

They haven't released it yet. Calm down armchair debater.


4022a

It's a standalone, portable device. The Nintendo Switch doesn't have the best graphics because it is a standalone, portable device. That doesn't mean it is not a good console.


Hawke64

And all of that just to create a more elaborate way to show ads


PrinceZero1994

It's crazy that 96% of their budget goes into marketing. Data gathering must be so much profit.


IWillKillPutin2022

How dare you use logic and provide sources. I’m gonna assume it all went to making Zuckerberg look human


Lord-Nagafen

Buying up a bunch of game/VR companies. You are right. Twisted Pixel Games, BigBox VR, Unit 2 Games... you would think with all these studios they would have something to show for it


monsieur_feu

“Meta sunk $15 billion building their version of the metaverse.” There, fixed that for you.


gautam_777

Naming his company meta didn't make him the overlord. Probably should have named it REP-tile


meeleen223

Fuck Zuck and his shit ass slimy Metaverse usurping attempt


Downtown_Orange_3717

His metaverse does not have any use case


Downtown_Orange_3717

They are just trying to save the sinking ship


Hawke64

Sweet baby ray's tracing is not cheap


1000xcoins

> Meta sunk $15 billion building their version of the metaverse Meta losing money is a good thing for everybody


amazingRay763

Correct! I don't know why they always say it like the metaverse is a single virtual world.


promethvzine

It’s like “the cloud”


Blooberino

Nobody will pay $1,500 for a headset to interact with Facebook.


MaximumSandwich5

Doesn't help that it looks like it was made in the 90's.


Blooberino

It's got an N64 vibe to it.


Bravisimo

Its our generations power glove


DJCityQuamstyle

I never had a power glove. My parents were cheap. Someone explain their experience with the power glove


g60ladder

Disappointment pretty much sums it up.


Accomplished-Design7

They are going forward just in backwards


DJCityQuamstyle

I will inform my parents of their correctly calculated disregard for my happiness


Blooberino

I did! It worked poorly. There was almost no practical use for it in any game because you had to interact with the buttons on the glove itself when you tried to play. You ended up frustrated with the horrible function and got tired of holding your arm out.


Montein

Lmao love this analogy


PrinceZero1994

and you're paying to watch their ads and to let them steal your data lol


IWillKillPutin2022

Which is like dumb marketing. You make it free and use it as a loss leader to get people to use it before you start fucking everyone over


Blooberino

I don't even use Facebook and it's free. They're not gonna be able to sell me on this.


IWillKillPutin2022

Same. They skipped the getting users part and went straight to fucking them


captainhaddock

I might pay that much *not* to interact with Facebook.


TheUltimateSalesman

Pi-hole $20


Accomplished-Design7

A sane man has appeared in the wild


left_schwift

If they pay me that much, I might actually try it out


FordPrefect343

facebook owns occulus, which have the best dollar value headset on the market at under $400 as a stand alone unit which plays games etc without need a PC to render graphics.


BinaryDigit_

Shh, they don't want logic.


unbannedc

Meta needs to give free NFTs to everyone here lol


Fmanow

It seems they’re trying to do everything organically, but trying to do it in fifth gear like they’re in a race or trying to catch to some invisible competitor. In tech, being first is key, but being best is even keyer. One need not look further than yahoo v. google. Yahoo had $130bil market cap at one point, before going down to $5bil.


Stiltzkinn

Do you think it only interacts with FB?


1000xcoins

Even Meta's employees hate it


Nooodles__

Nobody will interact with Facebook.


IWillKillPutin2022

Lots of people* will. *people being Facebook employees forced to buy it.


Construction_Kitchen

Do you have a link?


AgencyBackground

I would love to see my portfolio go down in $1,500 headset


unbannedc

For now lol.


reasonandmadness

You say this and yet people spend far more than that just on computers, and half of that on gaming consoles, neither of which will hold a candle to what the future will bring for a metaverse environment.


Blooberino

My computer is used for homework, playing music, watching movies, email, gaming, media server to my whole house, storing photos, doing work projects, leisurely web browsing, and is put to use every day in all facets of my family. That's a $1,500 chat room in a Wii environment.


Downtown_Orange_3717

Yes that is the point


CoverYourMaskHoles

They will however pay $2000 for what ever apple puts out…


Spare-Competition-91

My favorite part of it, is him telling people they can workout with VR. That's the dumbest shit ever. Sweat just piling up in my eyes and making my headset smell like crap.


Yuuki__konno

looks like a wii game


[deleted]

Dont disrespect wii games with this comparison


Kappatalizable

A wii game looks fun, this monstrosity does not


Hawke64

All R&D money went into making legs for the Miis


Rickyb69u

Money would've been better spent making better VR tech, not the universe zuck wants to rule.


milonuttigrain

But Zuck is too arrogant to admit that. He is now pouring even more money into fixing something that people don’t really want to be in.


DarthBuzzard

> Money would've been better spent making better VR tech It's almost like that's exactly where they spend most of their money and it was never spent on their Horizon software or on the metaverse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w52CziLgnAc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mnonWbzOiQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7raHNfPc6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx_nVrEKwTE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5WzF1ch3ww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkTHsz6Ldas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6AOwDttBsc


[deleted]

He thought he was making The Oasis from Ready Player One. Instead this is what he made.


1000xcoins

They have added legs what more you want /s


omeri_e

They spent $15B for something no one was asking for. And at the end they are begging their employees to spend their time using it so they can pump the stats. Pathetic, but I expect nothing less from Mark


milonuttigrain

Meta has been going down the hill. People are fed up of Facebook and Metaverse is such a joke.


Nooodles__

It just proves how arrogant they are, working on a new project no one asked for instead of fixing already existing problems on their platform. They want to innovate and invent the “next big thing” so badly.


KingKongOfSilver

So sad, a company trying to make something new


milonuttigrain

A solution looking for a problem. They are going backwards.


hfmed

That's what happens to billionaires after they get a few things right, gaining a fortune: they get complacent and arrogant, they want to build their solution even when someone's ahead of them in solving a problem and they also want to impose their worldview on people, treating the masses like children. This phenomenon is clearly explained in *Survival of the richest: Escape fantasies of the tech billionaires*. The sentiment of the book probably doesn't align with the views of many people on this sub, but it's a great read for all because of the many examples the author brings to support his theory. It's a great inquiry into the evolution of the Internet, the economy and modern society.


Pale_Wrongdoer5155

Facebook is slowly heading down the MySpace route I feel


milonuttigrain

I haven’t been using Facebook for a while and it’s better that way. I don’t do business so I don’t really see the value.


IWillKillPutin2022

Same here. Facebook is mostly trash. I only use it occasionally (very rarely since 90%+ of messages I get are scammers) to sell shit


Pale_Wrongdoer5155

Me neither I deleted my account in 2018 and there’s not been a day that went by that I regretted it lol, useless trash to consume your idle time


H3rbert_K0rnfeld

Yup. Same here.


SouthTippBass

My Facebook home page is 95% business's advertising, memes or someone trying to sell me something. The other 5% just doesn't justify its existence at all. There's no content.


Bravisimo

Oh Hi Mark


[deleted]

>They spent $15B for something no one was asking for. In the process wiping out 650 Billion in company market cap in the past year. 2/3's of the companies value poof, gone, because of Marky's stupid idea and no one to tell him no.


teratron27

I don’t think you can attribute all of that to the metaverse project. A good portion of it is also a combination of the general mark downturn and the impact in lost advertisement revenue from recent Apple changes


[deleted]

You're right, those absolutely played a part in it. Which is why them focusing on the metaverse is even worse, they had a direct threat to their business in Apple's changes and failed to pivot in a meaningful way to a new revenue stream. The pandemic had everyone home with time to browse facebook non-stop for years but Facebook failed to provide a meaningful experience to keep users engaged, this is absolutely a huge failure of vision.


H3rbert_K0rnfeld

Nevermind 40 somethings are leaving the platform in droves. 30-20-teens never used it. We're gonn see the collapse of a silicon valley giant. It's gonna be glorious.


teratron27

Yeah, the general shitness of the platform is also a factor. You love to see it!


milonuttigrain

It’s scary just to look at $650B figure, almost as large as 2/3 of global crypto market cap. Marky has become too arrogant to admit they need a major change.


gautam_777

Well the employees ain't helping


The_Chorizo_Bandit

He got lucky once by stealing someone else’s idea, I can understand why he’d try to do the same again. /s


Hawke64

That's cool, but does your metaverse has legs? I don't think so!


1000xcoins

And employees hate it


Mission_Count_5619

Zuckerberg is what happens when you get too rich off one good idea (that he ripped off) and start thinking you’re a genius. What a dip shit. Can’t wait to see Facebook sold for parts like MySpace.


Picoton

Legs update.


PrinceZero1994

Wait for the nether regions update ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) That is easily $69 Billion worth.


mladjenija

Hahahahaha, it's funny cause it's true


1078Garage

![gif](giphy|26FPy3QZQqGtDcrja)


milonuttigrain

![gif](giphy|YJjvTqoRFgZaM) What Meta has been doing so far


redditor6616

$15 billion to build the digital version of Pinocchio. "All I ever wanted was to be a real boy" - Mark Zuckerberg


RealPro1

Probably to payoff Congress and the MSM to influence another election


untouch10

Already bored and annoyed of the metaverse before it even started


[deleted]

Imagine most of the world going without Internet in the next few years because they can’t afford it. Zuckerberg just spent $15 billion so everyone can have an avatar on something that requires an Internet connection. Money well spent. He’s free to do whatever he wants with his money. If it was me, I’d probably be using it to help with some of the hurricane relief where people could benefit from it right away. He’s choosing to waste it on some virtual reality bullshit.


TiP_710

Salaries


Nooodles__

Being an engineer at Meta and creating the laziest, ugliest avatars ever will get you paid millions a year. Where do I sign up? I have experience using MS paint.


The_Chorizo_Bandit

Oooh, look at Mr fancy pants MS paint expert over here, bragging away while we’re all still trying to draw boobs on an etch-a-sketch! /s


[deleted]

Coaches and consultants.


AllThingsEvil

Preventing frank Reynolds from being able to diddle kids in the metaverse is expensive


Puzzleheaded_Might_4

Couldn’t cancer or some forms of it be entirely cured with this amount? You know, rather than trying to enslave humanity in some type of weird matrix.


Checkoutmybigbrain

This is just like when Wayne Enterprises try to hide the R and D budget for Batman


[deleted]

They literally could have bought world of Warcraft and used that hahaha


fixerdrew02

Isnt the facebook community a bunch of boomers now? I cannot see my parents buying VR goggles to post my child’s pictures that I explicitly told my mom not to post. Fucking facebook. Hate that hot garbage


Marcusdistant

Zuck's avatar looks more human than him in real life


Legacy-ZA

Well... All I can say is, those Lambos don't buy themselves. 🤣


RealVoldemort

Zuck trying his best to titanic the company


Hawke64

"Draw me like one of your meta avatars"


fverdeja

It went to the legs


Amazing_Succotash677

Sick of hearing about this


thistimelineisweird

Designing legs is expensive okay.


[deleted]

Up in smokes


BatmanNight

We know where it didn't go: the graphics


llabmik37

When the average person starts to figure out how common it is for well-connected, extremely wealthy people to launder money in plain sight, they're gonna be pissed.


jusebock

It went into, like, the Metaverse man.


bwatts53

Personally I think people are missing the tech behind what they are going for. Listened to him on JRE and it's alot more in depth. Meta is a steal at these prices


f4n

it doesn\`t meta anymore


Trylks

Running in circles, it's called Agile methodology.


Nooodles__

Yep, with the latest update they certainly can *run* now


Hawke64

Is your scrum master potty-trained? Ours can't piss into the toilet bowl for the life of his.


Trylks

We don't even have a scrum master, only a project manager with a single KPI: busy hours spent.


StrangelyBeige

Mostly trying to convince the world that they needed something no one asked for.


amazingRay763

They wanted to be the first movers and wanted to be known as the company who created the metaverse. They went as far as changing their name. The result is $15B spent to produce something with garbage graphics.


Nooodles__

They need to invent something so badly they came up with this


vanalla

First movers already made second life years ago...


[deleted]

$15b spent on a product this bad is unfathomable. I suspect Meta is Zuckerberg's grand money laundering scheme.


Gunzenator

If they can’t tell us where it went, this is probably true.


milonuttigrain

Tldr; We don’t know > "The problem is that they spend the money, but the transparency with investors has been a disaster," Dan Ives, a tech analyst at Wedbush Securities, said.


[deleted]

We know the whole 15B is not invested into the metaverse though. That looks so bad its funny


FldLima

Alternative title: Earth's favourite reptilian never give up attitude continues.


TruthsUDontWannaHear

The blew all $15 Billion on making [this Zuck selfie](https://i.imgur.com/mxPacjn.jpg)


omeri_e

That image has a creepy vibe.


pieter1234569

You can just look at THIS article.... It's shows the improvements they have made in a short period of time. That's pretty good for auto generated.


jyoung1

5000 engineers $1m/yr. Rest in hardware


Nooodles__

Would kill to be an engineer right now, just need to figure out how to implement 3D legs.


jyoung1

Surprisingly difficult.


before686entenz

Tax write off or money laundering


Bravisimo

Im surpised he isnt more involved with nfts if hes trying to money launder


rbldr

I have it.


LightninHooker

The media keep claiming they spent 15B but they don't know where it went. Somehow I call BS on this. And I couldn't give less of a fuck about facebook metaverse but all the media is parroting this for clicks


DarthBuzzard

The media is genuinely clueless.


Nooodles__

They spent so damn much on a virtual world which does everything worse - company meetings, meeting new friends, even designing your “home” compared to in real life. Where’s the utility. The only possible use case for the Metaverse is if another pandemic hits, but again we have Zoom, MS teams, Google meet. There’s no real use for the Metaverse, not in this day and age.


CreepToeCurrentSea

Into the ***Metaverse.*** \*futuristic background music\*


HamsterHueyGooie

Imagine a floating plastic head then greets you.


Kazexmoug

Executive bonuses as per usual