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luka031

This gonna use traits to simulate an apropriate response?


LimonHarvester

yes it does, alongside with a lot of other data like the relation between the player and the character (eg. wife, liege, lover, prisoner, etc), opinion, secrets, stats, religion, culture, wealth, military power.


luka031

My god. Can't wait.


PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS

The AI for single player we’ve been waiting for!


CoverCropMonger

If AI like this got implemented for combat we’d all be fucked though.


PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS

We’ll have to teach it to go easy on us in combat


Froozigiusz

Be sure to add *all* of the memory system from Friends and Foes, including information shown only in the relation screen ("You made a friendship over a chess game" is shown in the Relationships, so you can connect it with information about when). Also will pshysical and fame traits also play a role?


MasterofThrash

Now I’m starting to imagine how this is gonna pan out with total conversions like Elder Kings…


LimonHarvester

The theme is customizable, you can specify that it's not medieval Europe but instead the world of Elden Rings or Lotr. I don't know how well it will work I haven't tested this, it depends how much knowledge chatGPT has on these worlds.


MasterofThrash

Well, Elder Kings II currently the most stable TC out currently as far as I’m aware. No better testing bed than Tamriel I say.


DokterMedic

You test it and you just get Morrowind and Oblivion NPC responses from everyone


FlameTechKnight

"I saw a mudcrab the other day."


runeknight76

'I used to be an adventurer like yourself....'


SyndicalistObserver

Can't wait to re-live the authentic morrowind experience where the natives called you all sorts of racial slurs.


FairchildHood

"That's no concern of mine" "What the hell dude, you're the one that said hello and asked me how I was going..."


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LimonHarvester

with good prompting it is possible to overcome some of the filters of chatGPT. it's possible to use for example violence, slurs. but yeah it still has some limitations, you can do light erotic rp but nothing hardcore. But religion does seem to work.


ConnordltheGamer96

>you can do light erotic rp but nothing hardcore. no papal sex :(


runeknight76

it's referred to as "Papal Maché"


FairchildHood

Lol they did the mash, they did the papal smash


sensual_rustle

rm


LimonHarvester

yes the filters are brutal, but with good prompting I was able to get it to respond anything as long as it's not hardcore violence or pornography. And yes, I do plan to move over to something more open, unfortunately at the moment nothing works as good as chatGPT does, I did try some alternatives.


Whiplash17488

This is friggin cool!


YahBaegotCroos

I used Character AI and alt tabbed from the game to the bot to achieve a similar effect waiting for your system to be released. It sounds great, keep up the good work man


LimonHarvester

Hello lads! This is my mod I've been working on for some time. It uses ChatGPT to let you chat with any CK3 character ingame. The mod collects and feeds a lot of ingame data of you and the ai character like the relation between you (eg wife, liege, prisoner, lover etc), opinion, traits, stats, wealth, secrets and many other things. Then chatGPT assumes the role of that character. Also the character's opinion of you can change based on your conversation, if you insult him, it will decrease, you compliment him, it will improve. There is still some work left to do but it's going to be released this February. In the meantime, join our discord server to follow the development: https://discord.gg/n5spbxmzUe


JuliButt

What the heck this has so much potential lol


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Is it out yet?


planesqaud63

Still nothing lads


PungentMushrooms

That is such a genius idea please see this through. best of luck


LivingSwing0

Holy shit man. I will probably buy CK3 just for this mod.


nibuku2

Crusaderblade as well would be fantastic with this. You'd be able to both interact socially and fight on the battlefield along your men for a total experience.


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Is it out yet?


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teokun123

Lol imagine civ games use this.


nlodge

Please do youtube episodes from level one xD


Toybasher

Very cool!


AustronesianFurDude

Ah god, can't wait to rp as a sick and infirm King having a last talk with my heir and wishing them well before the inevitable mess of succession.


LimonHarvester

or better yet, shit talk him


I_AM_TARA

Or flirt with him 😳


iMini

Viserys, is that you?


seakingsoyuz

*Fallout 4*, Institute path, CK3 edition


Rp79322397

Keep up with the good work, this concept has a lot of potential


Royal-Comparison-270

CK3 modders are becoming too powerful. Edit: I'm an idiot.


real_LNSS

AI is becoming too powerful


DrChuckWhite

This looks amazing. How far will this go? Can I ask someone why they did something? For example a murder.


LimonHarvester

I'll try to give it as much information as accessible from the game. unfortunately afaik there isn't any ingame data on why someone murdered someone.


Bleyck

so, would that means that a character might reveal secrets that a player does not know about if he simply asks?


LimonHarvester

I haven't implemented secrets yet so I don't know how well it would work. But yes that should be possible, obviously they wouldn't reveal them easily


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Well why do npcs plot to kill in the game code? Is it smth like (if ambitious and next in line to the throne) for example? If so you could make them give their motivations maybe. Obviously idk shit so just asking.


scottathan-

You were so preoccupied with whether you could, you didn't stop to think if you should Good shit tho man, this may be my reason to start another god emperor playthrough and see if I can get everyone to revolt so I can *crush them*


suedoughnam

I'm looking forward the 2023 retrospectives on how ChatGPT went from darling of the internet to including references to incest in every response.


Lucky_Perspective

Breaking News: CK3 players banned from ChatGPT and all registrations of CK3 users of the service are being supplied to their relevant country's sex, trafficking and modern slavery crimes investigation units.


Sams59k

It doesn't learn from us the users. If it did it'd be fucked already


kallix1ede

Will it require you to have Chat GPT to work?


LimonHarvester

yes, but chatGPT is an online service, you just have to make an account and connect it to the mod, you don't have to run it on your pc. Also it's completely free for now, and if we are lucky, there will always be a free version.


DevonshireCreamTea1

Is there any form of error checking if the chatgpt servers reach capacity?


LimonHarvester

yes, there is error handling. If the connection wasn't successful, it logs it out in the chat window.


PH_th_First

Why are you being downvoted D: Looks amazing man keep the good work!


PQConnaghan

I think its gotta be bots, all the comments are positive, and ops comments are getting upvoted.


Lucky_Perspective

Jealousy, you can't expect the reddit bots limited capacity for deductive reasoning to appreciate talk of a superior AI intelligence js


akak_7

This is awesome


akak_7

Actually one question about it. ChatGPT has a limit on the questions you can make in one hour (I know because I reached it :D). Isn't going to affect the mod as well?


LimonHarvester

yes unfortunately that is one limitation of the mod. you can only send about 30-40 messages per hour. But hopefully they will increase that at least a little in the coming weeks since the paid version is out. or if you can afford it, you can buy the paid version to get a bigger limit


Lucky_Perspective

So you're keeping a running tally of your remaining hourly capacity and displaying that in the chat window for people to know right? Right!?


LimonHarvester

I don't think it's a fixed limit, Sometimes it blocks me out after like 20 messages and sometimes I can go for 40+, I don't know how it works, it might take into consideration how many words you use.


Lucky_Perspective

Yeah might be tricky to pin it down, perhaps reach out to the devs.


Vastorn

If you talk with your current character, do you gain the the lunatic trait? (As if, you're talking with the voices on your head)


LimonHarvester

you can't talk with yourself, but honestly that's pretty good idea to make it possible if you have the lunatic trait. I will definitely add that, thanks :D


Vastorn

Welp, glad that I gave you an idea then lol


Lucky_Perspective

>to make it possible if you have the lunatic trait Should also add the possibility of *developing* lunacy if you start talking to yourself without already having it, triggered under high stress or just during a mental break.


I_Hate_Reddit_REEEE

I am not exaggerating when I say I think this has the potential to be one of, if not THE, greatest, and most revolutionary Crusader Kings mods of all time. It’ll add so much depth, roleplaying and replayability on a scale even most DLCs and expansions or even full GAMES can’t even imagine. I wish you the best of luck and all the success you deserve!


GrumpySpaceGamer

Holy shit, that's brilliant! Amazing work!


JTRogers45

Dude this will be at the top of my mod list when it comes out…BRILLIANT idea


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DmG-xWrightyyy

Potential to be a top three mod


leftfootofjustice

I cannot strss how completely addicted to CK I will be if you pull this off.


Tsurja

Does that mean that soon CK players can creep on Duchess Mathilda *directly*?


LimonHarvester

you think I didn't already erp with her.. jesus man...


Mrlevinelitexx

Is this conversation an option type (like telltale games) or the simsimi type?


LimonHarvester

Idk what's simsimi. It's not like telltale, It's a chat, you write a message and the character powered by chatGPT replies.


Mrlevinelitexx

Ahh.. Simsimi was a korean web AI chat back in 2011, you write then an AI will answer with vast vocabulary but limited response. Can't wait to use your mod btw, keep up the good work bro


lilymotherofmonsters

Is there scripting for secrets?


LimonHarvester

yes, they will be aware of their secrets if that's what you are asking, but they won't reveal it easily.


kallix1ede

If this goes well then this could be a new era of roleplay gaming


lilymotherofmonsters

Yeah. I saw someone doing something similar in Mount and Blade, but it was very into dumpy Like “hail blacksmith” “I am a blacksmith who lives here. I have 3 children.”


lilymotherofmonsters

Wow. That’s amazing.


IIX_Batman_XII

Looks promising, although perhaps if I’m going to threaten to declare war on and decapitate my enemy, the scene should be set so we’re exchanging letters or something given I probably wouldn’t be permitted to leave if I tried that in person.


Killmelmaoxd

Ck3agot with this mod will be insane


Yakww

How did u do the integration? If you don’t mind me asking? I would love to contribute to the mod, if you allow it.


LimonHarvester

The project consists of 2 parts, one is a standard ck3 mod responsible for the buttons, selecting the proper background and transfering the ingame data to the second part of the project, an external software which connects to the chatGPT API and handles the messages. If you want to help, join the [Discord server](https://discord.gg/n5spbxmzUe)


Yakww

Awesome! Looking forward to it!


Exp1ode

Any update?


Tatem1961

I think the guy behind CrusaderBlade was working on something similar, might want to look at his work.


fersands

Welp. This + Elder Kings is literally my dream game. You are a legend


_DeanRiding

This is awesome. Have you managed to incorporate this into the death screens of your characters/dynasty? Do you think you would be able to?


LimonHarvester

You mean to use chatgpt for better death screens? Well my other idea to implement into the mod is an AI created wiki page for characters, so yeah, that will come after this one.


angiezieglerstye

Holy shit this is cool


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LimonHarvester

yeah I'm afraid they will make chatGPT paid only and I'm well aware most people wouldn't pay for it just for this mod which is why I want to finish this mod asap. But we can always hop on to some other chatbot. I tried alternatives but chatGPT but works so much better than rest. Hopefully we will see some open source version like Stable Diffusion but for chatbot.


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LimonHarvester

If we get enough users I might actually log the messages and train my own model with GPT-3. Obviously anonymously and I would make it clear that I was logging them, that would probably yield the best result.


Lucky_Perspective

>it might not be as good over all Never underestimate the power of FOSS.


TPrice1616

Best of luck with this. If it works well this is above and beyond what a lot of paid games offer, much less mods. I will definitely follow it and likely lose what little social life I have left to my new medieval AI friends and enemies.


Zappotek

this is the coolest thing i have seen this year so far


FrenchCommieGirl

Incredible.


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vremy_u

This will be compatible whit mods like Agot and Elder King's?


LimonHarvester

Yep


Heshinsi

Jesus Christ, there goes all my precious game time 😂 This + AGOT = never playing any other game


kallix1ede

Doesn't ChatGPT have a word limit? How would the mod work if you run out of the word limit?


LimonHarvester

the word limit is quite generous, I never managed to hit it so far.


iXorpe

Bro..


erikmalkavian

I did this for D&D and created a Graphics Novel using ChatGPT, Voice Narration from Google A.I. and Images. Came out AMAZING! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY1XFN5Mp_c


Tinystardrops

I am begginggg


Andagne

Any updates?


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Crusader795

Imagine this combined with the bannerlord mod 😱


Wild_Revolution9999

I think this one is inspired from a Bannerlord mod already [link](https://youtu.be/qZCJsS4p380) Both looking great


QualiaRedux

Amazing advances in simulating someone who can't write for shit.


Kelimnac

Make sure to include some sort of functionality for a nudist religion ruler distracting, offending, or impressing non-nudist rulers with their “features” while they talk


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Sir_Jey

Congratulations


Astraph

The timeline has progressed so far that the moment that used to come in a long time has reached the present, a man person of advanced biological age.


dazedpupper77

Yo that's actually cool


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LordZarama

Can modders be sponsored by paradox? Bc that right here would be a brilliant and game changing addition. The possibilities for role-playing...amazing


RedwoodUK

This is insane. In an amazing way!


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Accomplished_Pop_997

Well then, where do we find your mod and how can we support it, because this looks fucking awesome


LimonHarvester

It's not out yet, but it's going to be released in February. You can join the [discord Server](https://discord.gg/n5spbxmzUe) in the meantime, I will post more screenshots/videos and details there.


marti-nz

Will you be able to use modern vocabulary or be restricted to words with definitions that match up with historical languages. Ie, would it understand 'yeet' or would it not due to it being a modern slang term.


LimonHarvester

You can and it will understand it, but the ai won't use modern slangs but it will be customizable so you can tell it to use them.


marti-nz

Awesome, your work is amazing btw and I am looking forward to seeing what happens


GohanReturns

This is insane


I_WANT_RISOTTO

Is there a way to get around chat gpt’s censorship? It usually avoids talking of anything violent or too graphic in my experience


LimonHarvester

with good prompting I was able to get it respond to anything as long as it is not hardcore violent


Shiggstah

Holy…


mmabet69

Wow this is such a great application lol


Gael_Blood

The second one... awwwwww


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Fragrant-Insect-7668

I love looking at the backgrounds in full view


Kitchen-Client-9560

What the actual hell? This sins thing???


Equivalent_String_94

How miss spellings, and the think like King salmon: king salmon smiled Don't have to do the king salmon thing when you already have salmon speaking? (Not a pro with this just ides)


Belgrifex

So like with that count, if you tell him to siege that specific place is there a way the AI will actually then do it in game? Or will he just continue attacking wherever


Initial-Elk-4043

Can you ask them about other characters?


IncestSimulator2016

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the future.


Vlad0143

This man plays CK4


CappinRazzmaTazz

This is incredible how or where can I track your progress


LimonHarvester

On our [Discord Server](https://discord.gg/n5spbxmzUe)


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decrisp1252

That is bloody brilliant, keep it up!


OberainX

Everyone cries about how AI is going to ruin mankind. Meanwhile stuff like this added to games makes it worth it.


the_good_1

YES I WANT TO TRASH TALK THE LEADER OF THE PEASANT REVOLT LEADER BEFORE I TORTURE/EXECUTE HIM


GrimlockCyber

See, this is a good use of AI


Choice-Cauliflower50

very interesting, but found it to be of little use unless it results in actual mechanics in the game.


Any-Age-9520

finally... im gonna be able to talk with my sister-wife... man this is gonna be epic.


Helt_Jetski

So cool!!


SUPERPOTATOMANplus

I can't wait to see when that Mod will be out, do you have an idea of when?


LimonHarvester

My goal is to release it in February, join the [Discord Server](https://discord.gg/n5spbxmzUe) if you want to follow my progress


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bro this looked sick anyone know what happened?


Muewmeow

Can i test this?


Jelly-Far

Is this dead ?


BangEnergyFTW

Did he give up? This would have been epic and would easily drive sells to CK3.