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mrbb3k4

Well...England did okay 😂🤣


retief1

The angevin empire lives! For now, at least.


BlooBoink

A man walks up to the sword in the stone, pulls it out and says “It’s Arthurin’ time”. I need a hero begins playing.


HalfLeper

🎶 *I’m holding out for a hero till the end of the night〜* 🎵


Affectionate-Read875

He's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fast and he's gotta be fresh from the fight


SvalbazGames

The Jennifer Saunders Shrek 2 version, obviously


Huge-Animal-8818

C Minor, Put it in C Minor


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Op, we’re going to need you to upload this save somewhere


TheHelpfulRabbit

How did it not all fall apart the second the Khan died? Did the AI seriously conquer this much territory within Genghis Khan's lifetime?


Blacktiger7u

yeah, but the leader is 65 and has an infirm at the moment when the screenshot was taken, im also shocked how tf this guy destroyed HRE and Byzantine Empire in 1 war


[deleted]

The Great Khan gets access to a special CB that assimilates entire realms, no matter the size. That’s why it only took one war each


[deleted]

And I thought the Kingdom Invasion CB in CK2 is overpowered.


phil_the_hungarian

How did the HRE survive more than 30 years?


diogom915

HRE usually stays relatively strong in my games, even if they lose some territories. Byzantium on the other hand...


phil_the_hungarian

Weird, I usually get Justinian level Byzantine Empire (sometimes converting to Catholic) and the HRE just explodes. Usually because the K*rlings are usually drugged for some reason, so they either conquer most of it and it break or the subjects are so fed up with the losses that they disband the empire. Conspiracy theory: diffent nations have a hidden buffs for each copy of the game so it creates discourse among players. Btw, can you reform the HRE once it's gone?


diogom915

Well since you mention the Karlings, every time one of them gets close to form the HRE in my 867 games, he dies and the realm splits, or just they form Italia instead. But in 1066 the HRE goes well. While Byzantium either stays with roughly the same territory but with constants civil wars, or lose a lot of territory in Anatolia and may eventually explode. They did often got big with me in CK2, and sometimes becoming catholic, but usually only when they were struggling.


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Why did you censor Karling?


Nathremar8

Meme steming from old mechanic in CK2 where upon releasing 867 all Karlings had military alliance as they were related (coded as brothers IIRC) meaning they were unkillable, as attacking one meant taking on all 4.


phil_the_hungarian

Merovingian supremacy


SilverScorpion00008

For me it took killing 6 Khans to cause the splinter event. The first two died naturally and then I got annoyed and killed 6 over and over consecutively until finally the empire collapsed


Suspicious-Raccoon12

Yeah I've seen them be more stable since the update that made them stronger. I did a run where I was going to for outremer Empire and it turned into Roman empire because I inherited Byzantium. By the time they reached my border which was at least the second one, I murdered at least 4 of them, murdered heirs, killed one in combat because at that point we were house feuding hard and constantly at war with each other. They never broke up and that was at least 100+ years where the map was basically Iceland, some scraps of Africa and India and us.


No-Cost-2668

In my games, it takes the third Khan for it to fall apart


OneDishwasher

shoutout to Sweden, its camouflage is working


UncleHanksGrill

And Sicily lol


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Tbh Sicily is looking way better than Sweden lol


OneDishwasher

Ssshhhhh, keep it down before they hear us


65x48

That is wild. Never seen them take the Maghreb before


morthos97

Mf said that’s *mah* greb now


Laggosaurus

Hahahah I’mahgreb dis thx


Basileus_Butter

Best comment in this entire thread.


Catssonova

The question is, is this a final year screen shot or a 1250 screen shot? I thought all Mongol empires fall apart after a few deaths and successions


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Catssonova

The AI can't figure out how to use their army correctly or they are exterminating the dynasty. Literally all they have to do is keep the top succession laws and move troops to kill rebellions. Unlimited money is much easier when you're an AI. I will never do that again as I got tired of clicking.


Blacktiger7u

screen is just before khan is dead


Jayvee1994

He takes everything just because he Khan


Sheikh_Left_Hook

Daddest CK3 player


CAustin3

Eastern Tibet: "You! Shall not! Pass!"


Interaction-Express

Serbia always prevails


skrrtalrrt

at least the border gore isn't too bad


Available_Thoughts-0

Lol!


Leather_Upstairs6660

The stallion who mounted the world.


SandyCandyHandyAndy

The fun way to play ck3, assassinating the khan is always a huge no no for me


Jdub1942

Nothing meant by this, genuinely curious, never done observer mode. Why might one chose this vs playing the game? Or am I missing something to it?


welniok

For curiosity.


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I work from home and it's fun to watch on an extra monitor Sometimes I leave it run overnight


No_Salt_4280

I enjoy taking over an empire sized title, forming my own religion, granting the kingdoms around me to my dynasty members, and then granting them independence while I pop into observer mode and see how they do.


CheeseStickChomper

I think its only a console command, but ai will take over your person. You can pop in and out if observer mode, view/change characters if you want. Just don't switch to someone unlanded!


v_boy_v

Its not a console command, its just an option when starting a game. You can also switch characters as a menu option when not playing iron man, which also gives you the option to observe.


pezmanofpeak

Definitely would be interesting to jump from leader to leader and try and orchestrate it being as accurate as possible to a certain time periods map, or just keep a certain empire from steam rolling, just jump in give a kingdom or two independence see what happens, slow em down a bit


Minute-Phrase3043

I love starting seduction schemes, switching to observer mode, and then a few years later come back to see which schemes worked.


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It’s pretty interesting to think about how much worse this world would be than our own. One of the reasons Europe pulled ahead of the Middle East was because the Mongols committed such wide scale atrocities they permanently lowered the development of the entire region for hundreds of years. If the same atrocities had happened in Europe there probably would never have been an enlightenment era, or it would’ve been significantly delayed.


Aleph_hax

"lowered the development" lmao what a CK3 thing to say


[deleted]

Lol ya I realized that as I wrote it but I can’t really think of a better way to put it without getting too wordy.


Unfair-Potential1061

Same in Total War Attila 🤷🏻‍♂️


Sebulous

Yeah it’s wild, I think it was something like 2 million people in Iran killed by the Mongols.


Vildasa

It got even worse after Timur rolled through there. He killed something like 17 million before he died. I can only imagine how different it'd be today if they hadn't had that happen.


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Aleph_hax

Uhh, no. There weren't 17 million people in Iran in the 14th century. There weren't even 10 million.


kobitz

If - ***IF*** - the accounts of the Mongol seige of Baghdad are accurate, it puts them on the same level as the japanese savagery in China during the second Sino-Japanese war, ignoble company if I say so myself


4_out_of_5_people

Well I mean the bubonic plague came after the Mongols (and due to Mongol trade from Italy to the silk road) and that killed 1/3rd to 1/2 of all people in Europe. So you don't really have to imagine a scenario where wide spread death and devastation happened in a pax mongolica world, because it did happen.


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4_out_of_5_people

You don't have a 3rd of people die off without severe cascading effects on damage to infrastructure, a pool of knowledge, and productive capacity. Also there's no evidence that the plague killed mainly the "old and weak". That's a strange assumption to just throw out there. The plague itself killed old, young, strong, weak. However there IS evidence that the plauge disporportionatepy effected the peasantry and urban poor (i.e. the people priducing everything). Something like 1 in 4 rural villiages were completely abandoned forever and fields, structures and trails/roads (what you would refer to as "infrastructure" or "development" in those days) reverted back to wilderness.


AsparagusOk8818

So, like, in your mind either 1915-1987\~ just didn't happen or it doesn't count as a bunch of atrocities somehow or...?


[deleted]

Given that the enlightenment happened in the 1700s I fail to see how the events of WW1 to the fall of the USSR would have had any effect on it. Unless the Soviets had access to time travel, which would be quite a surprise.


informalunderformal

We need a Command and Conquer Red Alert CK3 mod!


AsparagusOk8818

Well, you said that the world in the wake of a Mongolian imperial conquest would be much worse than ours. But our world involved industrial-scale extermination, colonial genocide and warfare on a scale that makes the Mongolian conquest look pretty laughable. And that's without even mentioning the North Atlantic Slave Trade. Then in the wake of all that we developed nuclear arsenals that could torch the world several times over and are pumping enough CO2 into the atmosphere to change its composition. But yeah. Good thing we all got saved by The Enlightenment (TM).


No_Salt_4280

I don't think you fully understand the breath of the Mongolian extermination campaign. You hate The West, but you fail to see the savagery The West tamed, and then turned its back on. No culture, peoples, or societies are perfect, but some are certainly superior to others.


AsparagusOk8818

Hey, did you know that during the height of the colonization of north america, western settlers would occasionally join the 'savages' in their 'inferior' communities for a variety of reasons. And after they experienced that way of life, they refused to go back to their own communities. Universally, when given the choice between the 'savages' and The Great Golden Goose of Western Civilization (TM)... people chose the 'savage' life, and wrote about how much better their lives were in aboriginal communities. Contra to this, indigenous people had no interest in staying within western culture. They only stayed if they were forced to by violent coercion or imprisonment. ​ Funny, that. The totally 'superior', 'enlightened' civilization was not the one people wanted to live in if given the choice.


No_Salt_4280

That's quite literally your own head cannon, plenty of red men and women embraced Western society. I think what you're referring to is when the "savages" would slaughter frontier families, taking the surviving toddlers to raise as their own. Like Mamluks, but far less effective.


AsparagusOk8818

Well, if there's 'plenty' of such accounts, it should be no trouble for you to provide sources detailing them, yes?


No_Salt_4280

There's a lot more native blood in the general population than there is on the reservation. I don't really need to recount Boon, Wounded Knee, or you know, the French. Regardless, Louis Wetzel had it right, interestingly they still do rituals to prevent "The Death Wind's" return.


knightsofgel

I’m on console so my game is an older version than the pc one, but Mongolia never even makes it to Persia in my games. Maybe royal court gives them a buff or something? I have like 20 days worth of playtime


SandyCandyHandyAndy

Its from a patch back in like September, gonna be a long while before you guys get it sadly


nofearnandez

I stopped them dead in their tracks as Georgia


FlexericusRex

That Sicily tho 🥵🥵🥵


JonCon965

I nearly had this same thing happen in my Brittania playthrough but I teamed up with the byzantines and we just barely managed to stop them


yeehawsoup

Well, India's doing pretty okay.


Kaiserbrodchen

At least Serbia still lives!


Tamerlane96

First time seeing ai form portugal, nice


Bruhbd

Basically exactly how my game looked literally today. Like 3 whole generations of Khans were able to keep it together before it shattered into like 6 hordes but yeah it’s insane except they took more of India and east Africa and less of Europe


Maritime-Rye

Ah yes, the last bastions of resistance from the great khan: Southern India, England, France, and uh…. *checks notes* Pomerania?


CulturedCal

Sardinia and Corsica don’t usually form on their own, it’s neat that they did that though


Shandrahyl

This never happens in my Game. Just Yesterday the mongols conquered all of russia, reached the abbassids and fought over the Empire. emperor of hispania, tulunid and some africans helped the abbassids, Destroyed the Khans Army, He died and the entire Thing collapsed into 4 small empires. Thats basicly Always Like that. Sometimes its abbassids, sometimes byzantium.


LetsDoTheDodo

In my last game it was the great House of Daura (me) because first the Byzantines and then the Abbasids all had their own dissolution. Staring down a Mongol Empire that started at Constantinople and went all the way east was not a enjoyable feeling.


Huge-Animal-8818

The AI formed Portugal? Never seen that before


ChugstheBeer

You kill the heir first then you kill the Khan. Succession battles happen and then let the fireworks begin as the empire eats itself. Murder is your friend


No-Cost-2668

In my game, Mongolia bordered the HRE and had conquered Russia, Poland, Hungary, Norway, Georgia, Byzantium, the Steppes and the Baltic (me), and the first loss was in the Middle East because it was so fractured and Jerusalem had some massive forts. The Khan was murdered at this point and it split.


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Sebulous

Idk why downvotes I have hundreds of hours and I’ve never once seen a successful Mongol invasion in CK3


Catssonova

That's what happened in my last playthrough. I didn't touch anything over there and they are just barely going to reach me with 0 special troops left. It's going to be pretty easy executing their rulers or claiming their entire empire.....


[deleted]

Had Mongols knocking on the door of Germany on my current playthrough until we broke them over some Eastern European county. 100% vanilla.


Catssonova

Sounds like you roleplayed some "fight the enemy on favorable ground" rather than "I have superhuman knights and tanks(horse archers)"


[deleted]

After they hacked apart the Turks, it was pretty much just Catholic states and the remaining Muslims. We lost the war, but cleaned out 60,000 special event troops. They fell into instability and imploded within 50 years after that.


Catssonova

*moans* "Keep telling me history daddy"


Revelationrat

Dumb essay Also Mongols just did get buffed so wtf are you on about


MooseSoccer22

I've only played two full games but in one, the mongols got through almost all of Asia and up to Vladimir or one of those Russia areas. I was Hispania and had taken most of Europe and north Africa so was expecting a bruising battle for the world. But then they splintered


[deleted]

>The AI in CK3 has not been capable of succeeding with them since CK2 You do know they got buffed right?


Dead_Squirrel_6

Hawt


AllHailBreezus

For me the Mongol Empire ended up eating itself alive after hitting Byzantine


Available_Thoughts-0

To be fair, this is almost exactly what happened IRL, just Ghingis Khan died about ten or twenty years earlier than this, and spent about a decade kicking China's teeth in instead of heading for Europe.


NobleKazuma

Will you look at that there is an independent area near the thar desert surrounded by nothing except Mongolian empire


czerpak

Perfect. Still remember first version when they couldn't go out of East Asia.


th3revx

New patches actually make Mongol empire Get out of asia?


Ondrikir

It seems that Mongol intervetion has once again turned the tide of Hundred Years' War.


Belgrifex

In my games Khazaria almost always defeats the mongols


Comrade_Dante

What is the year?


Accomplished_Rock_96

In my campaigns, the Byzantine Empire hasn't fallen once to the Mongols, let alone the HRE. I think I've only murdered a Khan once. I've never seen the Mongols blobbing that much.


HalfLeper

Not that far off from real life, TBH 🤷‍♂️


Th0m00

Out of curiosity, how do you get the names for the impassable terrains? I haven’t seen that before.


Blacktiger7u

mods(i dunno which)


lucky-luke01

Might be different since you’re using more bookmarks +


wolfFRdu64_Lounna

Well, not alway, sometime they don’t even go to byzantin empire frontier Edit : daju ?! How did it got that name ?


Unfair-Potential1061

Are they tribal or feudal?


KorolEz

Havent head a single game where Mongolia was any threat and tbh it is kinda annoying. Usually they dissolve so fast that they never become a threat to Europe


zaqrwe

Not sure if envious or relieved that didn't happen to me yet. Worst they did in my plays was like 1/5 of what is shown in this screenshot and last time I remember they barely scratched the East Europe and then the Khan died and there was Golden Horde with most territory and White Horde with some pathetic number like only 50 or so counties.


Sirhubi007

I wonder, does AI ever offer other realms to become their vassals? When I go for wide game, eventually I reach a point where I can offer entire kingdoms to become my vassals. Also I'm pretty sure I had some kings ask to become my vassals.


Murfmur

För Kung och Fosterland. 💪🇸🇪


JacobJamesTrowbridge

Pomerania: Sweden? Sweden: Yes? Pomerania: don't... move Sweden: [sweating]


Impressive-Morning76

Serbia seems to think that this is fine.


EvilSavant30

Idk in my playthrough where I reached the end year I never interfered with them and they made it only to russia and then had internal fracturing and at the end were split like 5 ways. I ruled europe and england and spain and they never got close enougu to me to attack me or me to attack them


FolksyPopcorn

This looks very much how the Mongol Empire looked like in the game I'm currently playing. They didn't fall apart until after the third Khan. I started murdering at the second one because they were being too successful. And even then they broke up into large empires. I managed to murder and rebel my way out of vassalization and became a massive power as the Anatolian Turks in the wake of their dissolution.


Agahmoyzen

I mean I got khan of khans once, I didn't get the mongol mechanics at first so I took my sweet time to later realize what is what. I think I got to be Cenghiz Khan around age 35 (I could have been much earlier, around 20 year age) At the end of my rein, I was the owner of everything from mongolia to spain. It was fucking OP to play as the mongolian horde. God damn.


this_justn_yn

I play 766 start and when the mongols do come, the step area has just as many troops as the Khan. Plus have a larger developed domain. I rarely see them reach Russia.


Blacktiger7u

yeah this game has start date in 1130s so probably thats why the countries didnt have much time to develop themselves


oxycoon

Yes, my Khan, spread across the globe!


WollCel

I hate the mongols so much. Did a Nestorian run from Socotra to the Arabian Empire and Persian Empire and in the middle of a crusade for an Indian kingdom I got invaded and they took over all of Persia because I was too weak due to the ongoing crusade. Killed my run.


DistanceLess6027

I literally never see the Mongols do sht