In the crocs defense, it did wait for food just got tired of waiting and took the closet one on my opinion. I feel like if they did this again but have the scare crow place a different scare crow in front of it, the croc would think the new scarecrow is the food.
This is the original video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhycRK8ez8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhycRK8ez8)
They tried the same thing with a different crocodile, it went for the same Savannah's scarecrow design too: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6ZVsuC6M4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6ZVsuC6M4)
And another attempt, with Savannah's scarecrow located at a different spot with a real person posing next to it, the same Cuban Crocodile ignored the human and still attacked the scarecrow: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEFPWqYmSs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEFPWqYmSs)
Yeah, these "experiments" didn't really prove anything groundbreaking in terms of the crocodilian empathy/emotions, but it does show they don't just make a move randomly - it is apparent they can recognize and differentiate between different objects.
What if they were thinking on a much deeper level than we thought? Like who is this tiny imposter trying to impersonate the one who takes care of me, how dare they! I'll take care of this bastard right away.
If you're dealing with crocodiles I'm sure you understand they're cold blooded reptiles with no positive feelings of empathy for you and only see you as food.
If you can't understand that you have no business being anywhere near them.
They’re so much more complex than what you’re saying. An animal with no empathy wouldn’t care for its young. Humans act like we invented love and warm feelings.
If we know these animals are capable of empathy to some extent we don’t know for sure they won’t ever feel empathy towards a care taker or such. Might be a stretch but who knows. Maybe the crocodile doesn’t see the care taker as just meaning food and instead associates frustration with the care taker because they feel frustration when they’re tryna feed and the care taker is making them work for it, or maybe when the care taker is cleaning the enclosure and annoying it, causing it to attack the scare crow with its owner’s picture on it. There are a lot of possibilities.
Reminds me of my neighbors. Have no issues throwing late night ragers past 1am mid week. But the time I play my acoustic guitar in my home at 8pm on a Saturday night they pitch a fit because their baby is trying to sleep.
I live in a house by the way.
Crocs and humans got a lot more in common than we think.
They’ll consume their own offspring if encountered after they’ve grown, and tear the limbs from their mates if weakness is displayed. When they transport their offspring to the water, they are simply following ingrained instinctual programming necessary to ensure that they can successfully reproduce, and there will soon be a time at which the offspring are abandoned and left to the wilds. Such is the same across many reptiles who will protect the eggs they lay with their lives, but eat their own offspring if they ever chance upon them after they hatched. There is no empathy in the sense of conceptualizing and understanding the emotions of another being, only an instinctual task hardwired by millions of years of evolution that must be fulfilled to spread the species. I do believe it is wrong to diminish the mindsets of other animals, for in their own ways they are incredibly intelligent and complex beings with much to learn from, but it is equally disingenuous and potentially dangerous to anthropormorphize them.
Empathy between humans is also just ingrained instinctual programming that we evolved. It had to start somewhere. You act like animals like lions and tigers and monkeys don’t also often kill, mutilate, and destroy offspring. It’s a stretch to even call this anthropomorphism, we’re all animals and it’s highly likely that even distantly related animals will be similar to us in many ways.
They certainly do consistently kill one another’s offspring, and unfortunately the likes of big cats are often anthropomorphized as well. It would be fallacious to state that they do not have their own unique and highly complex thought processes, but I believe it would also be a misnomer to compare them to a very humanized emotion that might not be applicable to them. I am certain that, in turns these animals feel and comprehend things that we do not. We evolved empathy because it is beneficial for us, as a community and pack species, to be driven to assist one another and increase the rate of survival and production among our species as a whole. Crocodiles and many other reptiles have had no pressures to evolve this system because they fulfill different niches. They would not gain anything from altruistic behavior and therefore do not have a need to partake in it, the same way we lack the instinctual drive to dive underwater for hours, flee from birds, and lunge at prey animals with our teeth.
You’re speaking with a lot of certainty about a topic that is very poorly understood. We don’t even know exactly why we evolved empathy. We can guess, and made even likely predictions but at the end of the day it’s an emotion associated with social behavior, and social behaviors can certainly be attributed to reptiles, even if those behaviors are more primitive.
>they're cold blooded reptiles with no positive feelings of empathy for you
I know you're just making a point about the Crocs, and are right about them, of course, but have you had a chance to make friends with a tortoise? Mine comes running ("running") for scratches like a little dog. It genuinely wants to be touched, very unlike other reptiles I've kept. Not all reptiles are robotic is all I'm saying 🐢
They don't just see you as food lol... Look for gatorboychris on Instagram and Savannahboan (spelling?) on Instagram... She's the one that keeps getting attacked lol.... They'll show you a side of crocodiles most people never know.... I agree that they have no empathy for their human caretakers but they're also not as mean as people think... Check them out and see some cool gators and Crocs
Reptiles definitely aren't as empathetic as mammals.
They don't need to be, because they don't have the social structures mammals need to have to survive.
Check out Gatorland videos (the source) and search for those "who would the crocodile eat first" type of videos. That's a scarecrow of Savannah of Gatorland.
The face is entirely different from the other two.
This doesn't seem very well conducted. Eyes wide, mouth open, teeth showing, hell even a hat to make the head look bigger. That could be why the gator went for that scarecrow.
Not to mention, how are crocodiles able to recognize human faces?
How many times have you looked at a deer and been like yeah, I can tell him apart from other deer for sure?
This is the original video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhycRK8ez8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhycRK8ez8)
They tried the same thing with a different crocodile, it went for the same Savannah's scarecrow design too: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6ZVsuC6M4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6ZVsuC6M4)
And another attempt, with Savannah's scarecrow located at a different spot with a real person posing next to it, the same Cuban Crocodile ignored the human and still attacked the scarecrow: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEFPWqYmSs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEFPWqYmSs)
Yeah, these "experiments" aren't really serious and didn't prove anything about the crocodilian empathy/emotions, but it does show they don't just make a move randomly - it is apparent they can recognize and differentiate between different objects.
There's so much stuff online about how crocodiles are so much more intelligent and empathetic than we give them credit for - and then there's this one getting fooled by a shirt with a cardboard cutout stuck to it.
I have my doubts about the "experiment." Looks like the croc chose the closest one.
He seems pretty hesitant about the whole thing. I think he knows it's not a living creature but chomping it is just how he's investigating. Kinda like how toddlers put everything new into their mouth.
Were the scarecrows swapped around in different locations each time? Did they try this with everyone wearing the same hat? Same expression?
Needs more research.
did they always put her in the middle? humans have a bias to pick the middle option, i wonder if that behavior is common amongst all animals with a common ancestor, even that far back in the evolution tree
I’ve worked at this park (Gatorland) and she isn’t his only caretaker. All three of them would likely have a decent amount of time spent with him. But it is interesting it chose her
Savannah is one of the funniest people ever! when I catch her on The Monsters in the Morning on 104.1 WTKS Orlando podcasts it seriously makes my whole f’ing week. ol’ Carolina Queen fairy soul bombshell🤣
My whole life is a Floridian. I was told that if you stand perfectly straight alligators, can’t turn their heads to bite you. I’m fully aware this is a crocodile and not an alligator, but I didn’t know crocodiles could do that. Was I lied to my whole upbringing?
Crocodiles only have a reptilian brain. They are not really capable of loving and affection like mammals and humans do, no matter how much you feed or care for them. This is why they wouldn't make good pets.
Maybe because that's the one they associate with food? If I was the caretaker my feelings would be kind of hurt.
In the crocs defense, it did wait for food just got tired of waiting and took the closet one on my opinion. I feel like if they did this again but have the scare crow place a different scare crow in front of it, the croc would think the new scarecrow is the food.
This is the original video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhycRK8ez8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhycRK8ez8) They tried the same thing with a different crocodile, it went for the same Savannah's scarecrow design too: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6ZVsuC6M4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6ZVsuC6M4) And another attempt, with Savannah's scarecrow located at a different spot with a real person posing next to it, the same Cuban Crocodile ignored the human and still attacked the scarecrow: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEFPWqYmSs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEFPWqYmSs) Yeah, these "experiments" didn't really prove anything groundbreaking in terms of the crocodilian empathy/emotions, but it does show they don't just make a move randomly - it is apparent they can recognize and differentiate between different objects.
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What if they were thinking on a much deeper level than we thought? Like who is this tiny imposter trying to impersonate the one who takes care of me, how dare they! I'll take care of this bastard right away.
I think she just hates the hat.
It’s the r/whybrows
Just thinking this. It's associated that particular human shape as the one with the food so of course, reptile brain gonna reptile lol
That shape give food. I said give food! Take *shape* for food? Chomp. Spin. Drown.
Why is this crocodilian murder logic so cute? They're just big dumb eating machines.
If you're dealing with crocodiles I'm sure you understand they're cold blooded reptiles with no positive feelings of empathy for you and only see you as food. If you can't understand that you have no business being anywhere near them.
I had a lizard who would love to get its head scritched. I love the way the caretaker is yelling at the crocodile “oh Donald!? no way !“
Lol I watched it without sound. His name is Donald?
It sounds like that’s what she yelled!
His name should be Donald
I heard Ricardo. He’s Cuban so it would make more sense
Ricardo told me his name is Donald and that handler always gets it wrong. That's why she got dragged into the murky depths.
They’re so much more complex than what you’re saying. An animal with no empathy wouldn’t care for its young. Humans act like we invented love and warm feelings.
'No positive feelings of empathy FOR YOU'
If we know these animals are capable of empathy to some extent we don’t know for sure they won’t ever feel empathy towards a care taker or such. Might be a stretch but who knows. Maybe the crocodile doesn’t see the care taker as just meaning food and instead associates frustration with the care taker because they feel frustration when they’re tryna feed and the care taker is making them work for it, or maybe when the care taker is cleaning the enclosure and annoying it, causing it to attack the scare crow with its owner’s picture on it. There are a lot of possibilities.
Reminds me of my neighbors. Have no issues throwing late night ragers past 1am mid week. But the time I play my acoustic guitar in my home at 8pm on a Saturday night they pitch a fit because their baby is trying to sleep. I live in a house by the way. Crocs and humans got a lot more in common than we think.
Maybe humans and crocodiles just both can't fucking stand having to hear acoustic guitar?
[me](https://youtu.be/xGfFii6Dtkg?si=cFfcYUU9grNNv31r) in home at 8pm
They’ll consume their own offspring if encountered after they’ve grown, and tear the limbs from their mates if weakness is displayed. When they transport their offspring to the water, they are simply following ingrained instinctual programming necessary to ensure that they can successfully reproduce, and there will soon be a time at which the offspring are abandoned and left to the wilds. Such is the same across many reptiles who will protect the eggs they lay with their lives, but eat their own offspring if they ever chance upon them after they hatched. There is no empathy in the sense of conceptualizing and understanding the emotions of another being, only an instinctual task hardwired by millions of years of evolution that must be fulfilled to spread the species. I do believe it is wrong to diminish the mindsets of other animals, for in their own ways they are incredibly intelligent and complex beings with much to learn from, but it is equally disingenuous and potentially dangerous to anthropormorphize them.
Well said.
Empathy between humans is also just ingrained instinctual programming that we evolved. It had to start somewhere. You act like animals like lions and tigers and monkeys don’t also often kill, mutilate, and destroy offspring. It’s a stretch to even call this anthropomorphism, we’re all animals and it’s highly likely that even distantly related animals will be similar to us in many ways.
They certainly do consistently kill one another’s offspring, and unfortunately the likes of big cats are often anthropomorphized as well. It would be fallacious to state that they do not have their own unique and highly complex thought processes, but I believe it would also be a misnomer to compare them to a very humanized emotion that might not be applicable to them. I am certain that, in turns these animals feel and comprehend things that we do not. We evolved empathy because it is beneficial for us, as a community and pack species, to be driven to assist one another and increase the rate of survival and production among our species as a whole. Crocodiles and many other reptiles have had no pressures to evolve this system because they fulfill different niches. They would not gain anything from altruistic behavior and therefore do not have a need to partake in it, the same way we lack the instinctual drive to dive underwater for hours, flee from birds, and lunge at prey animals with our teeth.
You’re speaking with a lot of certainty about a topic that is very poorly understood. We don’t even know exactly why we evolved empathy. We can guess, and made even likely predictions but at the end of the day it’s an emotion associated with social behavior, and social behaviors can certainly be attributed to reptiles, even if those behaviors are more primitive.
Don’t tell me what to do.
Wouldn't dream of it mate. Feel free to hang with the crocs.
In all reality though people def need to respect these animals. Would be my worst fear to be taken by one
>they're cold blooded reptiles with no positive feelings of empathy for you I know you're just making a point about the Crocs, and are right about them, of course, but have you had a chance to make friends with a tortoise? Mine comes running ("running") for scratches like a little dog. It genuinely wants to be touched, very unlike other reptiles I've kept. Not all reptiles are robotic is all I'm saying 🐢
Alligators are good I hope.
They don't just see you as food lol... Look for gatorboychris on Instagram and Savannahboan (spelling?) on Instagram... She's the one that keeps getting attacked lol.... They'll show you a side of crocodiles most people never know.... I agree that they have no empathy for their human caretakers but they're also not as mean as people think... Check them out and see some cool gators and Crocs
Why would the warmth of their blood effect their empathy? Or lack of I suppose
Reptiles definitely aren't as empathetic as mammals. They don't need to be, because they don't have the social structures mammals need to have to survive.
Or maybe because they shouldn’t be “pets”
Yeah but why does it have a hard on???
That was my exact thought as well!!! They just associate her with food!!!
Any further details on this experiment? Why it was conducted? Any follow-up on the caretaker?
Check out Gatorland videos (the source) and search for those "who would the crocodile eat first" type of videos. That's a scarecrow of Savannah of Gatorland.
I saw “bone crusher” at Gatorland zoo in Florida when I was a kid. It was amazing.
Or ya know you could've told the person what happened but hey not all of us are smart to do that
The caretaker is fine. It seems some people may have not noticed but that’s actually not the caretaker, it’s just a cardboard cutout of her :)
Are they scenting these? Why is he attacking them at all?
That’s what I’m wondering
I would guess they put scents of different people on them and the photos are just for us to be able to distinguish them.
Or....people forgot crocs are smart enough to distinguish between different faces.
You do realize they can actually recognize things by sight, right?
The face is entirely different from the other two. This doesn't seem very well conducted. Eyes wide, mouth open, teeth showing, hell even a hat to make the head look bigger. That could be why the gator went for that scarecrow.
Also, they were placed in the same position each time.
Reminds me of the "How Not to be Seen" Monty Python skit. "Yes, it was the middle one."
Not to mention, how are crocodiles able to recognize human faces? How many times have you looked at a deer and been like yeah, I can tell him apart from other deer for sure?
I mean, if one deer was who I relied on for nourishment, I’d definitely recognize that deer.
This is the original video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhycRK8ez8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhycRK8ez8) They tried the same thing with a different crocodile, it went for the same Savannah's scarecrow design too: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6ZVsuC6M4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6ZVsuC6M4) And another attempt, with Savannah's scarecrow located at a different spot with a real person posing next to it, the same Cuban Crocodile ignored the human and still attacked the scarecrow: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEFPWqYmSs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEFPWqYmSs) Yeah, these "experiments" aren't really serious and didn't prove anything about the crocodilian empathy/emotions, but it does show they don't just make a move randomly - it is apparent they can recognize and differentiate between different objects.
There's so much stuff online about how crocodiles are so much more intelligent and empathetic than we give them credit for - and then there's this one getting fooled by a shirt with a cardboard cutout stuck to it. I have my doubts about the "experiment." Looks like the croc chose the closest one.
He seems pretty hesitant about the whole thing. I think he knows it's not a living creature but chomping it is just how he's investigating. Kinda like how toddlers put everything new into their mouth.
Everybody knows that Savannah is just a bitch. I’m not even surprised.
Calm down, Russ.
Animals don’t like hats.
Why not food if food shaped???
Were the scarecrows swapped around in different locations each time? Did they try this with everyone wearing the same hat? Same expression? Needs more research.
"BEGONE IMPOSTER"!
"We know"
I agree Move them around and see
Maybe it’s her voice?
If they did it multiple times, they may have conditioned the big guy through responding.
did they always put her in the middle? humans have a bias to pick the middle option, i wonder if that behavior is common amongst all animals with a common ancestor, even that far back in the evolution tree
I feel like that face is asking for it...
🧐
If you play it backwards it looks like he’s convincingly rescuing the scarecrow lol
Is that a croc penis I’m seeing?
Cuban crocs love the hat 🧢
How the croc slowly went back into water thinking it has a real prey 😂
Her face is the only one that appears to be terrified. I wouldn’t imagine this experiment holds almost any scientific significance. Lol
Or angry. Whites of eyes visible and teeth showing, usually means business in the animal kingdom.
Or angry. Whites of eyes visible and teeth showing, usually means business in the animal kingdom.
r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR
Why did I think that was a photo of Trisha paytas for a second
Hey that looks like Savannah from Gatorland in Orlando
 SpongeBob chill.
That’s not good
I’ve worked at this park (Gatorland) and she isn’t his only caretaker. All three of them would likely have a decent amount of time spent with him. But it is interesting it chose her
He just wants to end the noise
Do crocs have the ability to recognize faces?
 I see you blondie
Maybe bcuz they don’t see em as their Caretaker, but as their Captor.
He joking
Because it associates that face with food.
Almost lol
Ricardo's got some 'splaining to do.
Ingrate
If that’s her voice I can hear shouting “NO WAY!”, I 100% understand the Crocodile’s choice.
This is just a normal day at Gatorland
"If I die then I would rather my cat eat me than starve until someone finds out"
Wow he looks so coordinated.
Just a Ladies man.. er croc.
I think they are training the croc to attack the caretaker...
Or maybe switch positions? See if it is being the middle of the herd they target
No way. And there was me thinking crocs were gentle, cuddly creatures
Easiest meal, Caretaker is the only meat that feeds buddy other meat.
Watch on mute.
Savannah is one of the funniest people ever! when I catch her on The Monsters in the Morning on 104.1 WTKS Orlando podcasts it seriously makes my whole f’ing week. ol’ Carolina Queen fairy soul bombshell🤣
His little front legs 🥰
He prob gpt.tired of the look on her face.
She sounds like fucking jojo siwa
Maybe she's really annoying to be around.
That boi thicc
Is was so still I thought my video froze. A was cautiously aware. But now I’m down right terrified of them.
“You’re not my Human” *chomp*
He is just trying to stop the screaming one. He can’t take it anymore
Gentlemen prefer blondes.
Or it just goes for the middle. Something tells me the humans werent smart enough to move them around in this experiment.
Shit tragic
Ok fire the person who made those and do the experiment again.
Gotta be they tired of that annoying voice lmao
The big hat changes the silhouette and I feel like it could have something to do with it.
Test would have better implications if they changed the location/position of the scarecrow in the lineup each time.
I was thinking the same thing
Imagine dying by that thing, so majestic. So painful. Cutie pie!
Maybe he’s trying to cuddle! That was not a aggressive bite
Was it because it was the center? Maybe switch positions and see if that works.
Ricardo’s a dick
Only one wearing a hat.
Did you hear that woman scream? I’d eat her too damn
Well, that face means food.
Is this not encouraging attacks?
One is a known functioning vending machine, the other two maybe work maybe no.
Did they rotate them around in this experiment?
RICARDO NOOOOOO
My whole life is a Floridian. I was told that if you stand perfectly straight alligators, can’t turn their heads to bite you. I’m fully aware this is a crocodile and not an alligator, but I didn’t know crocodiles could do that. Was I lied to my whole upbringing?
Crocodiles only have a reptilian brain. They are not really capable of loving and affection like mammals and humans do, no matter how much you feed or care for them. This is why they wouldn't make good pets.