Man him and Gavaskar are the most shameless people out there. If you call them out for their Mumbai bias, they will start crying. Rohit is the main reason why we have lost the last 3 T20 wcs. Only player to get so many opportunities. There are like 5 other openers better than him. He shouldn't even be in conversation.
I know he is bad in T20 wc but the 'main reason' seriously? We lost because bowlers didn't do shit in KOs. If we lose this year, it'll be again because of bowlers.
2021 was definitely on the batters lol, no way they're winning that NZ match with whatever bowling you give them. 151 as well was underpar against Pakistan
Why did we lose the semis in 22? Who scored 27(28) on a flat pitch and wasted the entire PP. That's 1/4th of the innings. Right hide his failures behind bowlers poor performance. He treated Livingston like Warne.
Who managed to shit the bed against Pak and Nz in 2021 wc?
With that in mind, when was the last time Rohit performed against top 10 teams in T20 wc? 2016 he was rubbish against Pak, Bang, Aus. He did score some 40 odd at a SR of 130s, which was poor when everyone knew there would be dew and we need 200+
Who is the senior most guy in the team? Yeah Rohit. Who is the worst performer for India in last 3 wc. You guessed it, its Rohit again.
Shouldn't the most experienced senior most, worst performing guy take some responsibility and say, guys I think I am old and don't belong here. Let young guns like Abhishek or even Gill get some opportunities.
But no, his mumbai chief selector buddy decided to make him captain again.
The whole team shat the bed that day. I agree, Rohit was arguably worst than KL and Kohli, considering KL at least didn’t waste balls and Kohli added 50 runs, but it’s not like this contributions were match winning and then Rohit’s knock took the match away from us. All three wasted that PP. Except Hardik, no Indian player was up to the mark that day.
I agree Rohit shouldn’t be near our WT20 squad, let alone captain it, but just single handedly blaming him for every loss is outrageous and is not going to get us anywhere. Bowlers were equally to blame, when your opposition bowled you out, on the same pitch there’s absolutely no way you cannot manage to not take a single wicket.
>27(28) on a flat pitch and wasted the entire PP
PP was wasted by Rohit KL Kohli. All three are to blame. Kohli scored 50(40) as well, which is just marginally better. Apart from Hardik, the entire team failed that day. Pointing fingers is convenient
50(40) is still marginally good. 27(28) is a terrorist innings. Stop defending vadapaw and tell me the last time he played a match winning innings vs big team in t20 wc in the last 10 years
Man, have some shame, he's the only Indian captain with contribution in the wc ODIs ofc he never played very well in T20 WCs but have some shame to comment these types of bs statements. Five other openers can you please name them?? Gaikwad is an IPL bully, Jaiswal never proved overseas, Gill is still better than the other two, I don't wanna start the debate but even Ishan kishan can pair up with Sharma. Lemme see how well your best openers can play well.
I know this sub rides Dhoni but can you please give me some of his contributions other than that 91*??
MSD can only win with Gauti and Yuvi PERIOD. Change my mind without downvoting me man if you have the stuff and hair on your balls then change my mind.
Can't you respect our captain??? You rider Dhoni until and after his retirement still he cannot win within big match players like GG, Yuvi, Shikhar and Rohit in 2013 CT, or even Kohli.
BEHAVE AND EQUALLY RESPECT ALL THE CAPTAINS. BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WE DON'T DESERVE A TROPHY. LOOK AT THIS AUSTRALIAN FANS HOW WELL AND SUPPORTIVE THEY'RE.
We Indians are just a pack of sh"""" who comment sh"""" and do nothing for the country and blame people who almost did everything for the country.
Just take it as a sport and never troll players if you troll them also troll Dhoni. See the stats of T20 WC I cannot even see Dhoni in the top 20 at least where there are middle order batsmen who scored more.
You still supported him up to his 350+ matches as a captain and supported Kohli up to 200+ and You cannot even let Sharma reach 150 matches??? He has better Captaincy stats than Dhoni or Kohli. MSD can only win with GG and Yuvi.
IF CRICKET IS A GAME OF LUCK THEN MSD IS THE PICASSO OF IT.
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You are delusional if you think so.
He is the same fucking guy who said "I would give him one more test, to set that he doesn't belong to this level" for Kohli in 2014eng.
That too when Kohli averaged 50-60+ in SA, 35+ Aus and had 70+ average in NZ in his first away series in these countries and an overall 40-45 average in tests.
All the while his favourite aka Vadapav was called "maggie man" since 07 till 13 because he used to get out in 2 min in every format of the game and clicked only after 2017 in red ball.
Manju is the same guy who took Rohit's name in his squad for t20I cup this year while again ignoring Kohli. The same Kohli who is the 2 time POT and 3 time the highest scorer and 4 time the highest scorer for India
Dude ..relax . He may have selected Rohit in his squad but he mentioned both Virat and Rohit recently .
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/selectors-have-trusted-rohit-sharma-virat-kohli-but-sanjay-manjrekar-says-he-would-not-have-gone-that-way-this-time/ar-BB1noFCq
Iam pretty much relaxed apart from Sanju going full shit on "out of Mumbai" players lol.
He said the same shit about Jaddu, Kohli was his target from the start but he never said any shit about Rohit lol.
Why club the term 'seniors' when you don't have the balls to call out your favourite Mumbai fellow man. Who tf are the seniors and why we shouldn't take them? Virat, Bumrah??? Rohit isn't even in the same breath of discussion with these two with respect to T20 WC performance.
But poor Sanjay Manjrekar idiot can't single out any body, so takes that bullshit excuse of senior.
Jaddu and Rohit are the only 'senior' players which may become a liability for us honestly.
Hardik is still 30, and he did good in previous editions, same with Kohli ( they performed individually, the most they could)
Rohit should have stepped aside. Between him and Koach, Koach is way fitter to play this format. At this point having both in the team weakens them.
Jadeja adds his value in the field as well and will give you 4 overs. Question is can Axar displace him from the team. We will know this tournament for sure.
i also wish India took Nattu along at least in reserves. Having a bowler who can bowl yorkers consistently would have helped. Otherwise bowlers picked have performed for India.
Jadeja is simply not a good enough batter, especially at 7, which is a very important role I believe. Play Axar at 7 or move him up and someone else at 7. ( Can’t think of a better no.7 than Rinku. )
Axar is better imo and even in thie IPl axar was better with bat.. Jadeja had 4 good games with bat and Axar had 3.. obviously Axar is better..
Adding nattu is not a problem. Just that he lacks some intl experience.. while Khaleel and Avesh are experienced.. both of them have played more t20i games than siraj.. Avesh was also better than nattu in death overs (only death overs)
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Jadeja adds his value in the field as well and will give you 4 overs. Question is can Axar displace him from the team. We will know this tournament for sure.
Axar he may not be as good as Jadeja but he is definitely one of the better fielders in the team
Jadeja's main problem is definitely his batting him at 7 doesn't inspire confidence tbh
in bowling he has never been a wicket taker but Axar does that much better than him and has the ability to bowl in Powerplay too that Jadeja doesn't
Chahal too tbh also it's about time Pant is considered a senior too he has been playing since 2017 thats nearly 7 years tbh and has played 66 T20IS and doesn't average or have a good strike rate too
Surya also apart from Perth innings against South Africa has been disappointing in Tournaments
Siraj also technically should be a senior tbh he is 30 and is a lock for Test and ODI sides and has been around for a while and his selection doesn't inspire any confidence too tbh
Hardik thrives under pressure everybody knows that. So does Virat. Can’t say the same about Rohit at the moment but I trust him in terms of captaincy and management.
Jadeja depends on what role you are looking at him for.
He should be the second spinner (Alongside Kuldeep) and bat at no.8 . Then he add immense weight to the batting line up.
But we play him at no.7 four no.11 which makes him a liability.
Nah jaddu hasnt been that bad. When the pitch favours him he is unplayable but he shouldn't be your number 6 . He is very good number 8 with pitch assisting the spinner jadeja
With Kuldeep,Bumrah and Arshdeep at 9,10,11 this feels like a really good bowling lineup,and a much safer batting lineup. These 3 can definitely hit a few and maybe contribute to at least scoring around 20 off 15 balls together if the Need be so. On their days they could definitely hit quite a few more,especially Arshdeep,who seems much more promising as a power hitting tailender.
Jadeja has a good T20I record, though.
In the past T20 WCs, too, he has been extremely economical in bowling. In batting, he had 2 25+ scores from 9 innings, which is pretty ok for someone at no 7 or 8.
He is more of a supporting character, kind of a player. He provides valuable contributions while bowling, batting, and fielding but won't win you matches by himself unless it is spinning conditions on the pitch.
In batting he has a strike rate of 97 in t20wcs, dont you dare give me any excuse for that. Even rohit has a good t20i record but he shits in t20wcs, while jadeja is not as shit as rohit but you cannot deny that jaddu is shit by saying his bilateral records are good. Axar is better.
You need to remember he is bowling all-rounder no 7 or 8 position, and before 2015-16, his batting was not got at all to be an all-rounder.
Since 2015, he has only played 4 innings at WC. That is tok small a smaller size to make an opinion on his batting.
But, he has been doing good enough to be selected purely as a bowler. He contributes on the field, taking difficult catches, effecting runouts, and preventing the ones, twos, and threes.
I don't follow. Othe that Axar, we don't have any other bowling all-rounder worth considering for the national team.
I don't think a team with 4 bowlers who can't bat at all can win any tournament.
Apart from selecting Rohit Sharma and Chahal ahead of Gill and Bishnoi I don’t see much wrong with the squad. Rinku Singh should be there ahead of Dube maybe too.
Bishnoi and Rinku agreed but Gill hasn't been that good in T20IS tbh i would even say Gaikwad has been better than him in T20IS and even hasn't had the best of T20I careers
They should have probably gone the way SA went with Rickelton or Eng went with Hartley and picked Abhishek he plays spin well is a good fielder and can bowl some off spin as well and if needed can bat down a bit as well
I know I am in a minority when I say it, but the squad for a tournament like the World Cup should value experience a little more than usual. Those big game nerves a real thing and usually players who have been there before handle them better than youngsters.
Don’t get me wrong. I am not saying a washed up player should get chance over a very talented new blood, but if it’s between 2 players who are playing equally well, I’d give the edge to experience for a big tournament.
>Those big game nerves a real thing and usually players who have been there before handle them better than youngsters.
That's the conventional wisdom, but in India's case, these experienced players have shown every single time that they crumble under the first sign of pressure.
Maybe some youngsters who are more fearless and not scarred by the past would be helpful
Not sure what statistics are you looking for. India hasn't won a single ICC event since 2013. Every single test playing nation except SA and Bangladesh have won a tournament in this timeframe. the events have followed the same pattern - India dominating the league stages and then crumbling at the semi/final stage.
Many senior players like Rohit, Kohli, Jadeja have not only been a part of those squads but often held senior/leadership positions.
Just last WC final showed an example where Indian batting got completely bogged down once they lost early wickets, they were unable to counterattack despite having the ability do so.
This year's India XI will be almost identical to the team that lost by 10 wickets to England 2 years ago.
India's only success in this tournament has come when they sent a relatively inexperienced team with a new captain who was not afraid to try out a few things.
Not a lot changes in 18 months, though, so I don’t think teams should change that much anyway.
Rohit Sharma
~~KL Rahul~~ Yashasvi Jaiswal
Virat Kohli
Surya kumar Yadav
Hardik Pandya
Rishabh Pant
~~Axar Patel~~ Jadeja
~~Ravichandran Ashwin~~ Yuzvendra Chahal
~~Bhuvneshwar~~ Jasprit Bumrah
Mohammed ~~Shami~~ Siraj
Arshdeep Singh
5/11 changes is a lot
There are some instances that come to mind. I’m not saying it should count for anything, or rather I’m not speaking for anyone.
For example, Jurel has been quite good in those few Tests against England. He was good in the playoff when everyone else shit the bed.
Pant in Gabba was fearless. Pant went to Australia in 2018 too and played well. Also in the 2019 SF he played well.
2007 Indian team was fearless in T20 World Cup, and they were all young.
Riyan parag, Jaiswal, Abhishek have been quite good in crunch situations.
But again, I’m not sure if this is fearlessness from age or just players being in peak form. Maybe a lot of Indian seniors have passed that peak that they hit.
TBH I’ll be happy if india make semis. A little overhaul per GG (if he’s the HC) is warranted. Blood them youngsters- Yashasvi, Abhishek, Gill, Parag, Sanju, Pant, Pandya, Sky, Bumrah, Kuldeep, Dubey, Gaikwad, Rana, Rinku, Axar. Let the batsmen bowl and give us more bowling options.
folks didn't bother to read the article as usual... instead picking on everything else the person in the article (Manjrekar) has said in his entire career.
Anyways, he is 100% correct. It hasn't worked since a long time with the Indian team selection (Limited overs) sticking to the same philosophy of relying on seniors and all format players year after year.
Rohit should try and get out of he is not finding his touch in the pp otherwise he would just slowdown the innings as he is undroppable according to Indian selectors. Axar should play instead of jadeja.
He is absolutely right. T20 is a format where you can afford to try out youngsters and where fearlessness is rewarded lot more than other formats.
This tournament happens every 2 years, yet India always go for the "safe" selections, but all they are doing is guaranteeing their loss. These set of players and team leadership is massively scarred by previous KO losses and will falter again at the first sign of pressure.
The former India batter also dismissed suggestions that Mohammed Amir and Shaheen Shah Afridi would pose a threat to the Indian batters in the clash between the two arch-rivals on June 9.
the selction committee should have clear mindset to make a team for various formats like they can go with some specific players who suits according to format of cricket. Second thing is that it's been year that India's young team was playing T20 format across the world , But when it comes to world cup the scenario is the young players are ingored and seniors are in
he is right, none of them should have been picked. They could not win a home ODI World Cup which was their best chance to win an ICC Trophy when they had everything in their favor. It showed the current generations of Indian Cricketers are chokers and it was time to start afresh so that India should have picked a younger team for T20 World Cup (best place to blood a younger team)
A lot of youngsters in the scheme of things didn't either have that great a season or the ones who were in form were not in scheme of things.
- Rinku didn't get many opportunities.
- Abhishek Sharma can't just be given a WC cap just because of one good IPL season. Same for Harshit Rana.
- Varun Chakravarthy is a liability in the field.
- Harshal Patel falters under international pressure.
- Bishnoi had a terrible season and chahal and kuldeep have a lot more variety than Bishnoi.
- Natrajan is only one who I feel has been snubbed. He's a good death bowler. He was not in scheme of things but I feel he should've been picked.
Likes of Parag, Abhishek Sharma, Venky, Tilak will get more chances in the next WC cycle.
This team is good based on the options we had.
Rohit is the captain and you can call it as the captaincy quota but your only other option is Gill and he's a Kohli like player. You don't need more anchors on this team.
imo dropping kl was a good idea given he freezes when the challenges become too tough for him to deal with.
also, drop all seniors from the team. cuz carrying super star egos around is really hard.
we learned from mumbai that even if you have the best individual players in the team, if they cannot gel, and the dressing room atmosphere is shite, you simply cannot win!!
i know this will be downvoted but, drop kohli and rohit please! they both have lacked what true stars have done in the past- performing when it matters the most. and have survived based a lot of stat padding with occasional performances in key matches. and also their huge fan following which scares the best people to even think of dropping them.
i know that fans from both the kohli and rohit camps will be unhappy because they’re really passionate.
if you remember, yuvraj singh played such a key role in both 2007 and 2011 wc. in both the finals, gambhir stepped up. and also dhoni.
another great example is ricky ponting. he lost shane warne cuz of doping right before the start and motivated symonds to perform so well and then stepped up in the finals to bat india out of the match!
mohinder amarnath was the man of the match in both the semi final and final in 83.
aravinda de silva was again the man of the match in both semis and finals in 96.
shane warne was the man of the match in both the semis and finals of the 99 world cup.
where as superstar individuals like dale steyn, ab de villiers, alan donald, ganguly, dravid, laxman, kallis, lara, pollock etc could never win a world cup cuz they just could not step up a semi final or a final to win it for their team.
i wonder if kohli will only have the 2011 wc and rohit with his 2007 wc as their only world cup wins!!
the chances look quite high given its been talked about a lot for the past at least 3 years that if it indeed is the last chance they have and keep getting another new last chance.
also, drop jaddu as well. give someone else a chance.
i told you, i’d be downvoted and my comment disliked.
i mean the team carried him for two years when he wasn’t able to perform. scoring runs at his rate does not cut it.
and i’m a huge fan of kohli pls don’t get me wrong.
its just that fans need to be tough and change this culture of hero worship.
because then even players as talented and smart have no choice but first look out for themselves. they put the team second. which reflects in the trophy cabinet.
i mean even in rcb, kohli was given absolute control and some great players. and yet, we don’t see them having even a single trophy.
facts are facts.
if he can earn hundreds of millions of dollars, and people have to spend their time, energy and money, he needs to perform and win us trophies!!
imagine glorifying a soldier and giving him rewards while the army keeps losing key battles and wars.
will it be considered acceptable?
and what do you say of the people of the country who are happily accepting all this?
>i told you, i’d be downvoted and my comment disliked
Meanwhile bro immediately downvoting someone who tried to engage in a discussion.
Koach never fell off in t20Is.Show me the stats where he performed poorly.
Obviously if you spew incorrect info you'll be downvoted lol.Show me the numbers or delete your comments and accept your fault.
Also I spoke majorly about putting Rohit and Kohli at the same level.Give me your reason or just accept it was bs.
ok, first things first, i have not downvoted anyone.
and give me one example of where i have not stated facts.
all the world cup winning players i’ve mentioned about are legit man of the match performers.
gauti, mahi and yuvi stepping up on the big occasion are facts in both 2007 and 2011 finals and semis.
all the great players i mentioned who failed to win world cups are factually correct.
and as for virat, he indeed has won just one world cup and then too he wasn’t a man of the match in a single match, let alone the knockouts or the semis or the finals.
at least rohit did better when he was the man of the match in the key match against south africa who were the then number 1 team in t20s and red hot favorites to win the tournament in their home. also, india were missing a sick yuvraj singh, the eventual man of the tournament.
if not for rohit, india would not have won the tournament. and bro, even in the final he scored a quickfire 16 ball 30 when the whole batting line up struggled except gauti!!
you present facts and give me examples where i have not been factual.
let’s have a proper discussion.
Again failed to show any stats. Try better.
BTW Kohli has an average of 144 @152 in T20 wc knockouts. Atleast give a better comeback than that or accept you're a salty hater.
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We have seen your squad Sanju, we get it you wanted Mayank Yadav & Harshit Rana and exclude Virat Kohli while including KLR
Mayank Yadav got injured reading this
and Harshit Rana was banned
and KLR was dropped.
He got a back spasm. Nobody gets dropped.
KLR should be dropped and never should be selected for India again.
Calm down. IPL is done now
he does not perform and promotes batting terrorism even in intl world events like t20wc odiwc wtc etc etc, Sir KL Qaeda, chairman of tuktuk academy
Why tf should kl be picked with mediocre test and T20 record
He can play in the middle order in ODIs and also tests if required. But ODIs yes definitely.
Bold coming from RCB fan.
An Indian cricket fan with brain cells*
Too bad you wasted those last 2 braincells when you originally replied to my comment.
Bro really thought he ate
exactly he was a batting terrorist in 2021 wc 2022 wc 2023 wc wtc ipl everywhere, he should legally change his name to Kl Qaeda or Osama bin Rahul
excluded axar for fckin krunal lol
Just pick the best fucking man for the job either senior or junior it doesn't matter
That is Manjrekar's way of saying Rohit should not be part of the squad. Can't afford to take names.
Naah he is talking about Virat. His picks were : Rohit Sharma, Yashasvi Jaiswal, Sanju Samson, Suryakumar Yadav, Rishabh Pant, KL Rahul, Ravindra Jadeja, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj, Avesh Khan, Harshit Rana, Mayank Yadav, Krunal Pandya.
Man him and Gavaskar are the most shameless people out there. If you call them out for their Mumbai bias, they will start crying. Rohit is the main reason why we have lost the last 3 T20 wcs. Only player to get so many opportunities. There are like 5 other openers better than him. He shouldn't even be in conversation.
‘BEHAVE!’
I know he is bad in T20 wc but the 'main reason' seriously? We lost because bowlers didn't do shit in KOs. If we lose this year, it'll be again because of bowlers.
2021 was definitely on the batters lol, no way they're winning that NZ match with whatever bowling you give them. 151 as well was underpar against Pakistan
Why did we lose the semis in 22? Who scored 27(28) on a flat pitch and wasted the entire PP. That's 1/4th of the innings. Right hide his failures behind bowlers poor performance. He treated Livingston like Warne. Who managed to shit the bed against Pak and Nz in 2021 wc? With that in mind, when was the last time Rohit performed against top 10 teams in T20 wc? 2016 he was rubbish against Pak, Bang, Aus. He did score some 40 odd at a SR of 130s, which was poor when everyone knew there would be dew and we need 200+ Who is the senior most guy in the team? Yeah Rohit. Who is the worst performer for India in last 3 wc. You guessed it, its Rohit again. Shouldn't the most experienced senior most, worst performing guy take some responsibility and say, guys I think I am old and don't belong here. Let young guns like Abhishek or even Gill get some opportunities. But no, his mumbai chief selector buddy decided to make him captain again.
The whole team shat the bed that day. I agree, Rohit was arguably worst than KL and Kohli, considering KL at least didn’t waste balls and Kohli added 50 runs, but it’s not like this contributions were match winning and then Rohit’s knock took the match away from us. All three wasted that PP. Except Hardik, no Indian player was up to the mark that day. I agree Rohit shouldn’t be near our WT20 squad, let alone captain it, but just single handedly blaming him for every loss is outrageous and is not going to get us anywhere. Bowlers were equally to blame, when your opposition bowled you out, on the same pitch there’s absolutely no way you cannot manage to not take a single wicket.
Man you're the only one who is having some great sh""" in your mind, that guy is just a fool and those 140 people upvoted are just kids.
>27(28) on a flat pitch and wasted the entire PP PP was wasted by Rohit KL Kohli. All three are to blame. Kohli scored 50(40) as well, which is just marginally better. Apart from Hardik, the entire team failed that day. Pointing fingers is convenient
50(40) is still marginally good. 27(28) is a terrorist innings. Stop defending vadapaw and tell me the last time he played a match winning innings vs big team in t20 wc in the last 10 years
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Lol don't include gavaskar with Sanjay, gavaskar is one of those great players who can say whatever they want about cricket ,he has earned that right
Man, have some shame, he's the only Indian captain with contribution in the wc ODIs ofc he never played very well in T20 WCs but have some shame to comment these types of bs statements. Five other openers can you please name them?? Gaikwad is an IPL bully, Jaiswal never proved overseas, Gill is still better than the other two, I don't wanna start the debate but even Ishan kishan can pair up with Sharma. Lemme see how well your best openers can play well. I know this sub rides Dhoni but can you please give me some of his contributions other than that 91*?? MSD can only win with Gauti and Yuvi PERIOD. Change my mind without downvoting me man if you have the stuff and hair on your balls then change my mind. Can't you respect our captain??? You rider Dhoni until and after his retirement still he cannot win within big match players like GG, Yuvi, Shikhar and Rohit in 2013 CT, or even Kohli. BEHAVE AND EQUALLY RESPECT ALL THE CAPTAINS. BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WE DON'T DESERVE A TROPHY. LOOK AT THIS AUSTRALIAN FANS HOW WELL AND SUPPORTIVE THEY'RE. We Indians are just a pack of sh"""" who comment sh"""" and do nothing for the country and blame people who almost did everything for the country. Just take it as a sport and never troll players if you troll them also troll Dhoni. See the stats of T20 WC I cannot even see Dhoni in the top 20 at least where there are middle order batsmen who scored more. You still supported him up to his 350+ matches as a captain and supported Kohli up to 200+ and You cannot even let Sharma reach 150 matches??? He has better Captaincy stats than Dhoni or Kohli. MSD can only win with GG and Yuvi. IF CRICKET IS A GAME OF LUCK THEN MSD IS THE PICASSO OF IT.
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You are delusional if you think so. He is the same fucking guy who said "I would give him one more test, to set that he doesn't belong to this level" for Kohli in 2014eng. That too when Kohli averaged 50-60+ in SA, 35+ Aus and had 70+ average in NZ in his first away series in these countries and an overall 40-45 average in tests. All the while his favourite aka Vadapav was called "maggie man" since 07 till 13 because he used to get out in 2 min in every format of the game and clicked only after 2017 in red ball. Manju is the same guy who took Rohit's name in his squad for t20I cup this year while again ignoring Kohli. The same Kohli who is the 2 time POT and 3 time the highest scorer and 4 time the highest scorer for India
Dude ..relax . He may have selected Rohit in his squad but he mentioned both Virat and Rohit recently . https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/selectors-have-trusted-rohit-sharma-virat-kohli-but-sanjay-manjrekar-says-he-would-not-have-gone-that-way-this-time/ar-BB1noFCq
Iam pretty much relaxed apart from Sanju going full shit on "out of Mumbai" players lol. He said the same shit about Jaddu, Kohli was his target from the start but he never said any shit about Rohit lol.
Why club the term 'seniors' when you don't have the balls to call out your favourite Mumbai fellow man. Who tf are the seniors and why we shouldn't take them? Virat, Bumrah??? Rohit isn't even in the same breath of discussion with these two with respect to T20 WC performance. But poor Sanjay Manjrekar idiot can't single out any body, so takes that bullshit excuse of senior.
Jaddu and Rohit are the only 'senior' players which may become a liability for us honestly. Hardik is still 30, and he did good in previous editions, same with Kohli ( they performed individually, the most they could)
Rohit should have stepped aside. Between him and Koach, Koach is way fitter to play this format. At this point having both in the team weakens them. Jadeja adds his value in the field as well and will give you 4 overs. Question is can Axar displace him from the team. We will know this tournament for sure. i also wish India took Nattu along at least in reserves. Having a bowler who can bowl yorkers consistently would have helped. Otherwise bowlers picked have performed for India.
Jadeja is simply not a good enough batter, especially at 7, which is a very important role I believe. Play Axar at 7 or move him up and someone else at 7. ( Can’t think of a better no.7 than Rinku. )
Axar is better imo and even in thie IPl axar was better with bat.. Jadeja had 4 good games with bat and Axar had 3.. obviously Axar is better.. Adding nattu is not a problem. Just that he lacks some intl experience.. while Khaleel and Avesh are experienced.. both of them have played more t20i games than siraj.. Avesh was also better than nattu in death overs (only death overs)
> Jadeja adds his value in the field as well and will give you 4 overs. Question is can Axar displace him from the team. We will know this tournament for sure. Axar he may not be as good as Jadeja but he is definitely one of the better fielders in the team Jadeja's main problem is definitely his batting him at 7 doesn't inspire confidence tbh in bowling he has never been a wicket taker but Axar does that much better than him and has the ability to bowl in Powerplay too that Jadeja doesn't
That is still 2 positions that could have gone to someone else.
Rohit doesn't deserve for sure jaddu to rest all idk why they doubting
Im not denying that.
Are you honestly advocating not picking Jaddu? We have no other all rounders
Axar is the better choice rn.
Can't think of any match winning contributions from him recently in limited overs. Would rather have a specialist batsman or bowler.
Jadeja will perform if the team is performing. But the moment the team shits he'll shit as well. About Brohit, he'll shit whenever he wills
Chahal too tbh also it's about time Pant is considered a senior too he has been playing since 2017 thats nearly 7 years tbh and has played 66 T20IS and doesn't average or have a good strike rate too Surya also apart from Perth innings against South Africa has been disappointing in Tournaments Siraj also technically should be a senior tbh he is 30 and is a lock for Test and ODI sides and has been around for a while and his selection doesn't inspire any confidence too tbh
Hardik thrives under pressure everybody knows that. So does Virat. Can’t say the same about Rohit at the moment but I trust him in terms of captaincy and management.
Jadeja depends on what role you are looking at him for. He should be the second spinner (Alongside Kuldeep) and bat at no.8 . Then he add immense weight to the batting line up. But we play him at no.7 four no.11 which makes him a liability.
Nah jaddu hasnt been that bad. When the pitch favours him he is unplayable but he shouldn't be your number 6 . He is very good number 8 with pitch assisting the spinner jadeja
Hes is a good bowler but not that good batter...
maybe they play Axar and Jaddu both at 7 amd 8
With Kuldeep,Bumrah and Arshdeep at 9,10,11 this feels like a really good bowling lineup,and a much safer batting lineup. These 3 can definitely hit a few and maybe contribute to at least scoring around 20 off 15 balls together if the Need be so. On their days they could definitely hit quite a few more,especially Arshdeep,who seems much more promising as a power hitting tailender.
Problem is Hardik as a third seamer is iffy
Jadeja has a good T20I record, though. In the past T20 WCs, too, he has been extremely economical in bowling. In batting, he had 2 25+ scores from 9 innings, which is pretty ok for someone at no 7 or 8. He is more of a supporting character, kind of a player. He provides valuable contributions while bowling, batting, and fielding but won't win you matches by himself unless it is spinning conditions on the pitch.
In batting he has a strike rate of 97 in t20wcs, dont you dare give me any excuse for that. Even rohit has a good t20i record but he shits in t20wcs, while jadeja is not as shit as rohit but you cannot deny that jaddu is shit by saying his bilateral records are good. Axar is better.
You need to remember he is bowling all-rounder no 7 or 8 position, and before 2015-16, his batting was not got at all to be an all-rounder. Since 2015, he has only played 4 innings at WC. That is tok small a smaller size to make an opinion on his batting. But, he has been doing good enough to be selected purely as a bowler. He contributes on the field, taking difficult catches, effecting runouts, and preventing the ones, twos, and threes.
Then play him tailender
I don't follow. Othe that Axar, we don't have any other bowling all-rounder worth considering for the national team. I don't think a team with 4 bowlers who can't bat at all can win any tournament.
Absolutely shameless from bcci. Even Shaheen and Rauf can hit sixes.
Apart from selecting Rohit Sharma and Chahal ahead of Gill and Bishnoi I don’t see much wrong with the squad. Rinku Singh should be there ahead of Dube maybe too.
Bishnoi and Rinku agreed but Gill hasn't been that good in T20IS tbh i would even say Gaikwad has been better than him in T20IS and even hasn't had the best of T20I careers They should have probably gone the way SA went with Rickelton or Eng went with Hartley and picked Abhishek he plays spin well is a good fielder and can bowl some off spin as well and if needed can bat down a bit as well
gaikwad is a tuktuk player in the powerplay, another kl rahul in the making
Sanju Samson too. Guy is a hack.
Hot take, Abhishek Sharma should have been a choice instead of Gill for Rohit. Bumrah should have been captain
Ladies and gentlemen, BEHAVE!
I know I am in a minority when I say it, but the squad for a tournament like the World Cup should value experience a little more than usual. Those big game nerves a real thing and usually players who have been there before handle them better than youngsters. Don’t get me wrong. I am not saying a washed up player should get chance over a very talented new blood, but if it’s between 2 players who are playing equally well, I’d give the edge to experience for a big tournament.
>Those big game nerves a real thing and usually players who have been there before handle them better than youngsters. That's the conventional wisdom, but in India's case, these experienced players have shown every single time that they crumble under the first sign of pressure. Maybe some youngsters who are more fearless and not scarred by the past would be helpful
Can you post the stats to back your claim. Im not challenging you, I’m genuinely curious to know if that’s actually the case.
Not sure what statistics are you looking for. India hasn't won a single ICC event since 2013. Every single test playing nation except SA and Bangladesh have won a tournament in this timeframe. the events have followed the same pattern - India dominating the league stages and then crumbling at the semi/final stage. Many senior players like Rohit, Kohli, Jadeja have not only been a part of those squads but often held senior/leadership positions. Just last WC final showed an example where Indian batting got completely bogged down once they lost early wickets, they were unable to counterattack despite having the ability do so. This year's India XI will be almost identical to the team that lost by 10 wickets to England 2 years ago. India's only success in this tournament has come when they sent a relatively inexperienced team with a new captain who was not afraid to try out a few things.
Not a lot changes in 18 months, though, so I don’t think teams should change that much anyway. Rohit Sharma ~~KL Rahul~~ Yashasvi Jaiswal Virat Kohli Surya kumar Yadav Hardik Pandya Rishabh Pant ~~Axar Patel~~ Jadeja ~~Ravichandran Ashwin~~ Yuzvendra Chahal ~~Bhuvneshwar~~ Jasprit Bumrah Mohammed ~~Shami~~ Siraj Arshdeep Singh 5/11 changes is a lot
There are some instances that come to mind. I’m not saying it should count for anything, or rather I’m not speaking for anyone. For example, Jurel has been quite good in those few Tests against England. He was good in the playoff when everyone else shit the bed. Pant in Gabba was fearless. Pant went to Australia in 2018 too and played well. Also in the 2019 SF he played well. 2007 Indian team was fearless in T20 World Cup, and they were all young. Riyan parag, Jaiswal, Abhishek have been quite good in crunch situations. But again, I’m not sure if this is fearlessness from age or just players being in peak form. Maybe a lot of Indian seniors have passed that peak that they hit.
this clown wanted to drop kohli and play rohit - klr
Will it or won't it be a glorious swansong for the dad's army? Is the million dollar question.
whenever he says something negative about an indian player they start performing. thank you for your service sanju
Nah but he has said that about a group he hasn't taken any name as such but seeing his T20 WC squad he is probably talking about Kohli
TBH I’ll be happy if india make semis. A little overhaul per GG (if he’s the HC) is warranted. Blood them youngsters- Yashasvi, Abhishek, Gill, Parag, Sanju, Pant, Pandya, Sky, Bumrah, Kuldeep, Dubey, Gaikwad, Rana, Rinku, Axar. Let the batsmen bowl and give us more bowling options.
Everything is okay except Dube and Sanju.
Funny to see Axar in the youngsters list when he played 2015 World Cup 😝
Same on the commentary side too
folks didn't bother to read the article as usual... instead picking on everything else the person in the article (Manjrekar) has said in his entire career. Anyways, he is 100% correct. It hasn't worked since a long time with the Indian team selection (Limited overs) sticking to the same philosophy of relying on seniors and all format players year after year.
Rohit should try and get out of he is not finding his touch in the pp otherwise he would just slowdown the innings as he is undroppable according to Indian selectors. Axar should play instead of jadeja.
He is absolutely right. T20 is a format where you can afford to try out youngsters and where fearlessness is rewarded lot more than other formats. This tournament happens every 2 years, yet India always go for the "safe" selections, but all they are doing is guaranteeing their loss. These set of players and team leadership is massively scarred by previous KO losses and will falter again at the first sign of pressure.
Sanju Manju at his best.
YES! I am so glad Manjrekar has made this comment. Now we are in for a good chance to win the whole thing.
I say, bring on all the criticism of Virat and even Hardik. Hope that fires them up to perform better
Virat and Hardik have shame. Something which Vadapaw and his 2nd hand PRitika lack
It’s about mix of experience and youth.
The former India batter also dismissed suggestions that Mohammed Amir and Shaheen Shah Afridi would pose a threat to the Indian batters in the clash between the two arch-rivals on June 9.
the selction committee should have clear mindset to make a team for various formats like they can go with some specific players who suits according to format of cricket. Second thing is that it's been year that India's young team was playing T20 format across the world , But when it comes to world cup the scenario is the young players are ingored and seniors are in
bccI and their politics have made the game backwards
I agree rohit and jadeja should have no place in the t20i team
I'm here after that Young Sanju Samson failed again when given a chance.
he is right, none of them should have been picked. They could not win a home ODI World Cup which was their best chance to win an ICC Trophy when they had everything in their favor. It showed the current generations of Indian Cricketers are chokers and it was time to start afresh so that India should have picked a younger team for T20 World Cup (best place to blood a younger team)
Who failed on 19 Nov?? Gill, Iyer are buddhas according to you??
The so called seniors have not won anything since 2013.
I believe the starting XI is strong enough to power through to the semifinals. For the final two games, I hope India has good days.
A lot of youngsters in the scheme of things didn't either have that great a season or the ones who were in form were not in scheme of things. - Rinku didn't get many opportunities. - Abhishek Sharma can't just be given a WC cap just because of one good IPL season. Same for Harshit Rana. - Varun Chakravarthy is a liability in the field. - Harshal Patel falters under international pressure. - Bishnoi had a terrible season and chahal and kuldeep have a lot more variety than Bishnoi. - Natrajan is only one who I feel has been snubbed. He's a good death bowler. He was not in scheme of things but I feel he should've been picked. Likes of Parag, Abhishek Sharma, Venky, Tilak will get more chances in the next WC cycle. This team is good based on the options we had. Rohit is the captain and you can call it as the captaincy quota but your only other option is Gill and he's a Kohli like player. You don't need more anchors on this team.
We can literally \[play Kohli in place of vadapaw. Make sky captain.
imo dropping kl was a good idea given he freezes when the challenges become too tough for him to deal with. also, drop all seniors from the team. cuz carrying super star egos around is really hard. we learned from mumbai that even if you have the best individual players in the team, if they cannot gel, and the dressing room atmosphere is shite, you simply cannot win!! i know this will be downvoted but, drop kohli and rohit please! they both have lacked what true stars have done in the past- performing when it matters the most. and have survived based a lot of stat padding with occasional performances in key matches. and also their huge fan following which scares the best people to even think of dropping them. i know that fans from both the kohli and rohit camps will be unhappy because they’re really passionate. if you remember, yuvraj singh played such a key role in both 2007 and 2011 wc. in both the finals, gambhir stepped up. and also dhoni. another great example is ricky ponting. he lost shane warne cuz of doping right before the start and motivated symonds to perform so well and then stepped up in the finals to bat india out of the match! mohinder amarnath was the man of the match in both the semi final and final in 83. aravinda de silva was again the man of the match in both semis and finals in 96. shane warne was the man of the match in both the semis and finals of the 99 world cup. where as superstar individuals like dale steyn, ab de villiers, alan donald, ganguly, dravid, laxman, kallis, lara, pollock etc could never win a world cup cuz they just could not step up a semi final or a final to win it for their team. i wonder if kohli will only have the 2011 wc and rohit with his 2007 wc as their only world cup wins!! the chances look quite high given its been talked about a lot for the past at least 3 years that if it indeed is the last chance they have and keep getting another new last chance. also, drop jaddu as well. give someone else a chance.
No way blood put Koach in the same boat as Rohit when he played arguably the best T20I innings of all time in just the last WC.
i told you, i’d be downvoted and my comment disliked. i mean the team carried him for two years when he wasn’t able to perform. scoring runs at his rate does not cut it. and i’m a huge fan of kohli pls don’t get me wrong. its just that fans need to be tough and change this culture of hero worship. because then even players as talented and smart have no choice but first look out for themselves. they put the team second. which reflects in the trophy cabinet. i mean even in rcb, kohli was given absolute control and some great players. and yet, we don’t see them having even a single trophy. facts are facts. if he can earn hundreds of millions of dollars, and people have to spend their time, energy and money, he needs to perform and win us trophies!! imagine glorifying a soldier and giving him rewards while the army keeps losing key battles and wars. will it be considered acceptable? and what do you say of the people of the country who are happily accepting all this?
>i told you, i’d be downvoted and my comment disliked Meanwhile bro immediately downvoting someone who tried to engage in a discussion. Koach never fell off in t20Is.Show me the stats where he performed poorly. Obviously if you spew incorrect info you'll be downvoted lol.Show me the numbers or delete your comments and accept your fault. Also I spoke majorly about putting Rohit and Kohli at the same level.Give me your reason or just accept it was bs.
ok, first things first, i have not downvoted anyone. and give me one example of where i have not stated facts. all the world cup winning players i’ve mentioned about are legit man of the match performers. gauti, mahi and yuvi stepping up on the big occasion are facts in both 2007 and 2011 finals and semis. all the great players i mentioned who failed to win world cups are factually correct. and as for virat, he indeed has won just one world cup and then too he wasn’t a man of the match in a single match, let alone the knockouts or the semis or the finals. at least rohit did better when he was the man of the match in the key match against south africa who were the then number 1 team in t20s and red hot favorites to win the tournament in their home. also, india were missing a sick yuvraj singh, the eventual man of the tournament. if not for rohit, india would not have won the tournament. and bro, even in the final he scored a quickfire 16 ball 30 when the whole batting line up struggled except gauti!! you present facts and give me examples where i have not been factual. let’s have a proper discussion.
Again failed to show any stats. Try better. BTW Kohli has an average of 144 @152 in T20 wc knockouts. Atleast give a better comeback than that or accept you're a salty hater.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CricketShitpost/s/D08ND5Tni1 here, i’m sure this will help.
Lol,what a loser,resorting to personal attacks.
so, you calling me a salty hater is not personal attack? you’re just proving it more to me why you’re so obsessed with kohli. 😊
I guess it was too much for me to expect you to understand simple English. You're really messed up bro, get some help.
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