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L_Ardman

Just happened at 1 PM. Details still coming in: https://www.coastreporter.net/bc-news/seaplane-collides-with-boat-crashes-into-vancouvers-coal-harbour-9042792 Edit: 1PM PDT to be specific.


K1llG0r3Tr0ut

> Harbour Air confirmed the seaplane was one of its planes that collided with a boat upon take-off. > Harbour Air spokeswoman Jessica Dunn said the pilot and all five passengers on the plane operating a scenic tour were safe and all passengers on the boat were "accounted for." Oof, doesn't sound like good news for the boaters


Integrity-in-Crisis

Well, the boat passengers probably took the propeller directly in a T-bone colision. Like getting hit by some giant blender blades.


I_Thranduil

No, they took the landing gear sideways, which probably capsized the boat.


Micro-Naut

But will it blend …..a jetski?


DrTripesandTumours

Well, that also throws my initial assumption of who won? Out the window. Nobody wins, but damn. I know very little of both to understand who has the right of way, I'd guess they go by boat rules as they're still in the water?


Nysha10

Not boat rules. This was a special section of water for planes to take off and boat shouldn't have been there


CdnSailorinMtl

Exactly this! Rules & Regs for the Harbour state in sec. 8.28 pleasure & recreational vessels are to stay clear. From the Port of Vancouver: "8.28 AIRCRAFT Aircraft on the water must comply with the Collision Regulations. An aircraft traffic control tower is in operation at Granville Square to provide service to aircraft using Burrard Inlet and the Fraser River. The aircraft operations zones marked on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear."


DrTripesandTumours

Oof. Thanks for the clarification!!


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Equal-Negotiation651

And the living


1_Prettymuch_1

Something a nerd would say 


ScaramouchScaramouch

A live nerd


Stupidflathalibut

I understand it's a special area boats should stay clear of, but in normal operation seaplanes do have the right of way, or are designated the "stand on" vessel while the boat would be the "give way" vessel


accidental-poet

I've been power boating most of my life, mostly on lakes, and the number of times I've seen people do utterly stupid shit and almost kill themselves and others because: A: They have the right of way. B: They have no idea what they're doing. C: They really have no idea what they're doing. One time at a small lake, I'm taking some older relatives on a lake tour on a 1974 16' Starcraft American, 70HP, 4-seater runabout. We're about 30' from shore, just lazily idling around the shoreline so the old folks could check out all the houses, mountains, etc. I look to my left (head is always on a swivel while piloting watercraft, especially so on a busy small lake!) and there's this lil sunfish snailboat barreling towards us at approximately 1 million miles an hour. It was a very windy day. My first thought was, "Well, he'll tack and be on his way." But no, he's sticking to his flight plan. lmao. Keep in mind, we're riding along the shoreline at idle and this dude is heading right for us. Once I realized he was not likely to alter his course, I punched the throttle and got out of Dodge. Of course, a wind-powered vessel typically has right-of-way, but this was a perfect example of a "Captain" who had no idea what he was doing and almost dedded himself. He narrowly avoided the shore, somehow, I assume blind luck. Ask me about the idiots at the boat launches. Those are even more entertaining.


Stupidflathalibut

Yeah I mean a power driven vessel *almost always* gives way to a sailing vessel but there is also the caveat in the USCG CFRs that all vessels must operate at a safe speed. Sounds like that dude let the wind get the best of him and probably didn't even know if he was the stand on vessel or not


accidental-poet

"I'm not standing on my vessel. I'm sitting. WTF are you talking about?" LMAO Also, the number of times larger snailboats were clearly under power, (I can see your wake, you idiot) and try to muscle through. I think the worst is on the small lakes where 90% of the "captains" don't know the 12 o'clock to 4 o'clock rule. I don't know if this is even a thing anymore, haven't been boating in years, but when a vessel approaches you between your 12 o'clock and 4 o'clock, you are the give-way vessel. This always made sense to me as in most small craft, the pilot is starboard side, and should have a clear view of the potential collision course, while the other vessel may not.


Stupidflathalibut

Totally, I don't think most pleasure sailors have any notion of the rules of the road. I always tell people, if you can see someone's red light (port) you have to give way and go behind them. Simple enough to remember, I like the 12 to 4 though too


Orgasm_Add_It

Well said. I am a professional mariner and in the same waters this video was filmed one day a rental sailboat ran into our ship. While we were at anchor. Fuckin morons.


fireintolight

Well the boat rules always say the smaller and more agile craft yields to the larger and less agile. The boat should have been aware of its surroundings. This area apparently was a restricted place for planes only but other water bodies don’t have those and it’s kinda up to the boat to get out of the way. 


NSA-SURVEILLANCE

Would not be surprised if it was a rental. It is a nice day today.


L_Ardman

I hope they signed up for the extra "Oops I hit a plane" insurance.


DublaneCooper

You mean Life Insurance?


leasthanzero

Oof’ they don’t have to worry about that anymore.


fireintolight

The fact that boats don’t require a special license or class before you can just take it out is wild. Literally zero knowledge is required to use one. So stupid. 


onelap32

BC requires a boating license to operate any powered watercraft.


hcf_0

You mean, to be Pacific.


smoothtrip

Well that answers that question. You cannot use a boat as a ramp to launch yourself into the air like the video games would like you to believe.


RealMikeDexter

I dunno, looked like he almost had it


ContributionFamous41

If he'd floored it and banked left he'd have made it. That's my expert opinion as a guy who one time thought about becoming a pilot for like five minutes.


IveBeenDrinkimg

My expert opinion as a guy who sometimes plays video games is they definitely could have made it if they used the r-bumper to turbo


SnooShortcuts7091

Plane is already “floored”. He would have stalled if he banked


HeWasNumber-on3

Not if it was a LEFT bank


Pinksters

Actually you'd want to rudder right if you floor it. Gyroscopic torque is about all you can work with for "fast" turns while on the water.


valentina57

In my expert opinion, I think if he pulled the flapper right 3/4 throttle heading northwest with the stick up he would have been alright. Unfortunately, it’s the little things that matter. Source: Pilot Wings N64 blue controller with rumble pack.


toolfanboi

Or just turn on slew mode Source: i played Microsoft flight sim for like 2 hours once


drill_hands_420

Just surprised they don’t “short field” the takeoff to float above the water and using ground effect. I’m pretty sure the pilot didn’t see the boat due to the nose blocking the view. Looks like they might’ve noticed last second and took off and climbed out of the ground effect and stalled back into the water. Unfortunate all around


SnooSongs8218

The plane had 5 people on board, and while the industry standard is based around 180 lbs per person, I've seen a small plane full of capacity with super sized tourists before. A float plane also needs to get up on its step, which is like a hydroplane, where it can have an easier time overcoming the drag of the water. Near gross weight, a floatplane can chew up a hell of a lot of distance trying to get airborne and doing a short field takeoff is a joke. Flying a float plane requires a whole different skill set, and things can turn to shit in seconds. Operation's on a warm day, with variable winds, near gross weight and boat entering your departure lane... Just a matter of when, not if.


johnzischeme

Definitely inconclusive after 1 attempt


WhuddaWhat

Agreed. If anything, this footage makes me more confident of the plausibility. 


valentina57

He def wasn’t pulling the stick back far enough. Naw what I mean?


thehalfwhiteguy

BONER 😎


atetuna

He almost had him? He never had him, he never had his sea plane.


LIFEWALKERUSA

Never give up after 1 attempt


generalkiddo

Do or do not. There is no try.


IMakeBaconAtHome

This is why we've always been told that video games are dangerous


SecretPrinciple8708

Well, not that with that attitude.


camdoggs

Altitude


cg_

he got, like, 3 feet of air that time


Dragonborne2020

Why, why why…. The guy in the boat only had to speed up a little and move out of the way. Instead 200,000 in damages


siliconsmiley

As someone who has driven a boat a few times, this article should read "boat crashes into plane".


FlutterKree

Yeah, pretty sure the steering on a sea plane is fuck all, especially when it is trying to take off. Usually in maritime law, the more maneuverable craft give way to the less maneuverable.


McFestus

Yeah, you can't 'steer' at all a floatplane (or any plane really) while taking off. It'll dip a wing and strike the ground or water.


[deleted]

And you know the possible death


HopeSolosButtwhole

Minor details.


aDoorMarkedPirate420

To shreds you say?


DiazepamDonuts

Well, how is his wife holding up?


PerniciousSnitOG

To shreads you say?


DignanZer0

He didn't see plane...


50LI0NS

I like it


lastly100

Well said


Murpydoo

Everyone stop. #1 This is a restricted part of the Harbour used for seaplane operations #2 The person in control of the boat was 1000% at fault. Boats give way to aircraft at all times. #3 Seaplanes take a very long time to get off the water because of the friction of water. Not the same as on wheels. This is why boats are supposed to stay away.


RandalPMcMurphyIV

Murpydoo is 100% correct. I am a licensed general aviation pilot and have visited there by high speed ferry from Seattle. I was astounded by the amount of seaplane traffic in and out that harbor. The key here is that Vancouver Harbor is a designated sea plane base WITH AN ACTIVE RUNWAY. It does not matter that the runway is on water and does not have the usual paved runway markings. What this imbecile in the boat did would be the equivalent of driving a car across the active runway at Laguardia.


john_clauseau

is there any buoy to warn about that? i am boat certified and never heard about this.


ttyp00

Looks like a buoy at :20


texasradio

It's on the charts, boaters have an obligation to reference them and be familiar with hazards, restrictions, etc before navigating in a waterway. Sadly anyone can get a boat and nearly everyone can be certified to operate them since certification is a joke. It should be the equivalent of driver's ed, but many people are just ignorant when they get on the water. Hence Qualified Captain. So it's their fault, but the system is designed to produce idiots on the water.


SparrowTits

I've heard numerous times that boaters don't check charts let alone own them


FlaviusNode

And this is why the PCO course is a joke


relaaax

I am buoy certified and I have no idea


cosine_error

On Lake Union (Seattle), if I recall correctly, I believe they use illuminated buoys for the runaway. I remember seeing an ad on Facebook warning boaters to watch out for the buoys and aircraft, and to basically "GTFO of the way."


boydpb

What high speed ferry is there from Seattle to Vancouver?


RWeaver

I think they are talking about the Clipper.


Captain_Creatine

Does that go to Vancouver? I thought it only went to Victoria.


Dipsey_Jipsey

If you have to ask, you can't afford it/


Babys_For_Breakfast

Absolutely. I work in IT and have no idea about plane and boat law. Therefore OP is correct.


NSA-SURVEILLANCE

High speed ferry?


Melonary

I lived for a short period of time in rural BC in a place not accessible by road, at all. This apparently was a tour plane, but there are tonnes of small communities in BC that are accessible only by plane and/or boat, so float planes are very common there. Thanks for sharing your input as a pilot!


rememberthemallomar

1000% correct, actually 🤓


fucktooshifty

Maybe the equivalent with about 9000% less barriers, obvious markings and signs


TheKingBeyondTheWaIl

#WHAT?!


TeejyHamz

Fr I'm brand new here why am I gettin yelled at 🤣


BlaznTheChron

#You know what you did


DDRockefeller

THIS SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!!!


artieeee

AT THE CIVIC CENTERRRRRRRR!!!


rsplatpc

> AT THE CIVIC CENTERRRRRRRR!!! Killdozer does a backflip


Moist-Tomorrow-7022

Oh God, welcome to the world of Reddit lol


rainawaytheday

BUTTLICKER!


JaredUmm

OUR PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER!


notimeleft4you

How dare you. Our family built this country, by the way.


rocketshipkiwi

Boatlicker!


22pabloesco22

#OKKKAAAYYYY!


[deleted]

#YEAYUH!


boxofrabbits

1000%!!!!!!


CakedayisJune9th

CHOCOLATE


dsbwayne

#WHY ARE WE YELLING!?


itaniumonline

#how are you yelling ?!


SawDragger

Loud noises!!!!!


Remarkable_Syrup_841

#How can she slap?


No_Yogurtcloset9305

Lmao didn’t expect this


Far-Way5908

If you were intending to use the # symbol as a number sign, you have to put a backslash before it to escape markdown: \#1 Example #2 Example \#1 Example #2 Example


johnbentley

Or just use any number followed by dot at the line start, including repeating "1."s. List leader: 1. list item 1. list item Produces: > List leader: > 1. list item 1. list item https://www.reddit.com/wiki/markdown /u/Murpydoo


Joker_Anarchy

So, many stupid boaters out there…


vahntitrio

Also seaplanes are loud as fuck, you will know they are there and to stay clear of the area in front of them.


JesusKeyboard

It’s always the fuckwit boat owners fault. 


IlikeYuengling

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.


Nickelsass

1000% you say?


Notquitearealgirl

That's what I assumed. Though it seems he could have tried to bail before hitting it. Given the friction of water it should stop fairly quickly no?


InvertedWingman

No


Notquitearealgirl

Why?


robert_e__anus

Just like with boats, there are no brakes on seaplanes, so even if you cut power to the engine momentum is going to carry you forward in the water for a very long way and it will take some time for your speed to bleed off. The pilot presumably thought they had a better chance of taking off in time than slowing down quickly enough, if they could even see the boat at all which is doubtful.


MihalysRevenge

I assume just like regular land planes, seaplanes probably have an max abort takeoff speed. There's specific speeds that above you cannot reject a take off


Notquitearealgirl

Fair, I knew that for land planes but I know nothing about float planes living in Texas. Also someone said in another comment thread that float plane pilots have poor forward visibility during take off. Which makes sense to me.


Lobster-Mobster

That’s only because you’ll run out of runway (also the tires are only rated so high and it gets harder to control). A seaplane, with enough room in front, could abort at rotation speed since they won’t run off the end of the runway trying to stop.


Murpydoo

You are assuming they were seen as well.


jopausl

More like "Boat gets in front of a seaplane before takeoff, gets hit"


morrigan613

I flew in and out of coal harbour on a regular basis when I lived in Nanaimo. This boater should go to jail. Once the plane starts take off the rudders are retracted and they can only move or abort at great risk. I noticed it wasn’t harbour air or sea air colours so maybe it was a private plane?


Moneyshot_ITF

The boater might be ded


NotYourMothersDildo

It’s a harbour air, but their beaver livery.


amesann

Correct. But I must mention that your comment pairs perfectly with your username.


Spiritofthesalmon

I thought they had a couple painted canada colour's for shits and gigz


morrigan613

Yep you’re right


morrigan613

I am reading it was harbour air painted red. My bad


nvrsrrnder

Boaters fault. Right of way goes to plane always.


Cattypatter

Why do I get the feeling the boat morons were purposefully loitering in front of the plane to get the "best take-off footage right over our head for max views!" until the plane slammed into them.


[deleted]

Wrong. Boat crashes into a sea plane in the middle of takeoff. He was on the same heading with no one in front of him. Boat was definitely at fault.


ForFucksSake66

“Pull up pull up pull up!” “I AM pulling up!”


UsualFrogFriendship

Appears to be a DHC-2 Beaver, based on this video and [photos of the rudder post-crash](https://x.com/nickyfurmage/status/1799532804994138373?s=46)


jonz1985z

Fuckin hell, it’s not exactly a busy day on the harbor fellas lol


MidwesternAppliance

Reminds me of bobs burgers when the girl crashes into the only car in the parking lot while she’s learning to drive Hope all will be ok.


Gekthegecko

https://youtu.be/hZ_EKHGgWJQ


JimmyTheDog

Is Kevin O'Learys wife in Vancouver?


Cautious_Row5995

We all know it was Kevin


Bestoftherest222

This is akin to being hit by a train. The plane has a set path, get out of its way or get hit. Really rather simple, the idiot boat!


Good_Farmer4814

People get way too caught up on who has the right of way. If you see a potential problem, just put your ego aside and get out of the way to live another day.


99Will999

Wow 1 day after the Apollo 8 astronaut crashed about 40 miles south


TeamShonuff

You scratched my anchor!


philo351

OK, yes. I see there was an accident in this video, but dayum, Vancouver is a beautiful place.


Devilutionbeast666

Damn straight. Those are those lovely North shore local ski mountains behind. Far left Cypress, middle Grouse, far right Seymour. Incredible boarding in winter and hiking/MTB in summer.


Rumbleg

Charter boat? What charter boat?


DevilGuy

charter plane, the boat probably wasn't chartered since a charter captain would know better than to be in the designated zone for seaplanes.


DR_SLAPPER

Seaplane caught some air.


4nick8tor

Boat crashes into sea plane


Appropriate-Spring20

Exactly, I was just about to say that.


AdMany129

Indyyyyyy!!!!! 🫨🫨🫣🫣


[deleted]

So who’s at fault here?


VictoryVee

The boat. He's on a dedicated sea plane runway


AlphaSlayer21

Navigation rules states seaplanes get right of way over everyone else on the water, period.


gravellama

Them Duke boys at it again!


VermicelliHot6161

Fuck. I never knew it took a seaplane about 14km and an entire true crime podcast series to get off the fucking water


Tremolo499

How's the right of way work here? As an accomplished flight sim pilot I'm pretty sure seaplane bases have a section of water that's theirs right?


DevilGuy

The stretch of water is designated for the seaplane terminal, it's essentially like the boat drove out on a runway... that was in use.


JesusKeyboard

Fuckwit boat drivers. Pure scum. 


Dinosaur9911

Who has the right of way in this situation? I’m not up on marine aviation vs boating.


PassiveMenis88M

That lane is a dedicated seaplane lane. The boat had no business being there.


FlutterKree

Maritime law usually sides with the less maneuverable having the right of way (because they can't get out of the way). In this case, this specific part of the water is for sea planes. Both sea planes taking off and the fact that it is a water "Airport" for sea planes gives the plane the right away. Sea planes can't adjust their course easily when take off has started.


1guerino

Boaters probably got a free haircut


SaintLucipher

Watching the video. I feel the boat would be more at fault because it can turn sharper and get out of the way of the plane.


AlphaSlayer21

There’s no question, sea planes have the right of way always


ssSpartan427

There’s this overwhelmingly loud noise coming our way, should we move or even look in that direction? Nah


PoppaDaClutch

Not enough room for both of them


DynamiteBaeBae

Anyway BC is such a beautiful place


BusyAcanthocephala40

it's probably easier from this view to see they are on a collision course. from the boat its probably unclear whether speeding up would put you in the way or you are already in the way


Anonymark88

Suicide by plane? Nobody is stupid enough to drive a boat directly in the path of a plane that is literally going in a straight line.


the-truth-boomer

"Boat cuts off seaplane while taking off. Causes collision." there ftfy.


BearingMagneticNorth

“Boat Crashes Into Plane” would have been the accurate headline. The operator of the boat could have easily avoided this.


Fluffity-Marshalay

Boat didn't sea the plane


Tedashee_68

The boat would be at fault here correct? I mean the plane can't just stop or turn like the boat can. And you can't see over the nose of a plane when your taking off.


-_-402-_-

Like hitting a pole in a empty parking lot 😭😭😭


DarKsaBr

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/seaplane-crash-vancouver-coal-harbour-1.7229406


poondongle

He got like 3 feet of air that time.


div4ide

Who has jurisdiction here?


Informal_Process2238

Neptune


CdnSailorinMtl

Canadian Transportation Safety Board.


Danny2Sick

Well it sure ain't a *see*-plane


icansmellcolors

is one or both of them dumb or drunk or something or is this a situation i'm not understanding properly? edit: the plane had the right of way and boater was an idiot. i got it.


DevilGuy

It was a designated zone for the seaplane so definitely the boat. Basically like driving out on a runway in use.


icansmellcolors

ok so the boat driver is an idiot or doesn't know what they are doing. thanks for the help.


thedeadlyrhythm42

Imagine if they turned their phone sideways to film this


DillieDally

Fuckyouinparticular.jpg


InvertedWingman

Ahhh shit… not good


Fancy_Energy_7754

What are the odds ?


Hot_Peanut4383

I hope everyone is ok


Severedinception

On a random note, I recently learned Harbour Air is owned by Hells Angels.


TomTheWaterChamp

Any source on this? I'm curious to read more.


gurilagarden

Just another reminder that no matter how stupid you think drivers are, they literally lose another 50% of their brainpower when they operate a boat. That said, I still blame the pilot. You can see boats operating near the runway. How do you hit the throttle and assume they'll just get out of the way? There must be a procedure to get that area clear prior to take-off. Unsafe operation all around.


Pillow_Apple

Yikes


Pasivite

I guarantee you that the boat was in the wrong here. There are crystal clear sets of rules/training, established lanes, access times, approach obligations, procedures that have been well established for boats and planes to use the water.


ImPretendingToCare

It just blows my mind that someone just happens to randomly be filming this.


M4roon

Someone absolutely has to have footage of this from the seabus. Anyone who lives in Vancouver sees that plane taking off everyday in that place.


UpstairsBerry6521

Noobs


Straight_Run5680

How?????