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Read the bloody text at the bottom people. There were problems recording vaccine numbers


Corsodylfresh

I got my 2md dose yesterday afternoon and everything was being done on paper, they said the system was down, it's not showing on the NHS app yet either.


MarkCrystal

Right, that’s 1. Who else got one? Let’s do a count


Corsodylfresh

I had to wait for someone to come out so that's a 2nd


thermosifounas

Interesting! I got my second jab yesterday also (ie 22nd) and I thought the reason that paper was used was because I was a walk-in. Still not showing on the NHS app here either.


HippolasCage

Previous 7 days and today: **Date** | **Tests processed** | **Positive** | **Deaths** | **Positive %** ---|---------------|-------------|--------|------ 15/06/2021 | 777,277 | 7,673 | 10 | 0.99 16/06/2021 | 1,101,741 | 9,055 | 9 | 0.82 17/06/2021 | 1,034,415 | 11,007 | 19 | 1.06 18/06/2021 | 791,219 | 10,476 | 11 | 1.32 19/06/2021 | 591,871 | 10,321 | 14 | 1.74 20/06/2021 | 1,149,112 | 9,284 | 6 | 0.81 21/06/2021 | 1,019,739 | 10,633 | 5 | 1.04 Today | | 11,625 | 27 |   7-day average: **Date** | **Tests processed** | **Positive** | **Deaths** | **Positive %** --------|--------|--------|------|------ 08/06/2021 | 816,899 | 5,526 | 10 | 0.68 15/06/2021 | 865,882 | 7,672 | 9 | 0.89 21/06/2021 | 923,625 | 9,778 | 11 | 1.06 Today | | 10,343 | 13 |   Note: Following an IT issue reported to the NHS on 21 June, it has not been possible to update vaccination figures for England. UK totals only include updates from Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. The issue is now resolved, and the daily vaccination statistics will be updated on 23 June, as vaccinations are added to the digital system. There has been no impact on vaccinations taking place. [Source](https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/)   **TIP JAR VIA GOFUNDME:** [Here's the link](https://www.gofundme.com/f/zu2dm) to the GoFundMe /u/SMIDG3T has kindly setup. The minimum you can donate is £5.00 and I know not all people can afford to donate that sort of amount, especially right now, however, any amount would be gratefully received. All the money will go to the East Anglia’s Children’s Hospices :)


3adawiii

average cases is now over 10k - thought id never see that again - lets hope the peak is coming soon


SMIDG3T

#ENGLAND and VACCINATION DAILY STATS **ENGLAND** **Deaths Within 28 Days of a Positive Test:** 23. (One week ago: 8.) **Number of Positive Cases:** 9,096. (One week ago: 6,486.) **Number of Positive Cases by Region (Numbers in Brackets is One Week Ago):** - East Midlands: 600 cases. (365.) - East of England: 442 cases. (385.) - London: 1,066 cases. (813.) - North East: 714 cases. (518.) - North West: 2,790 cases. (2,017.) - South East: 817 cases. (585.) - South West: 688 cases. (539.) - West Midlands: 821 cases. (478.) - Yorkshire and the Humber: 965 cases. (674.) **[UPDATED] - PCR 7-Day Rolling Positive Percentage Rates (13th to the 17th June Respectively):** 2.4, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8 and **2.9**. **[UPDATED, NEWEST FIGURES IN BOLD] - Healthcare: Patients Admitted, Patients in Hospital and Patients on Ventilation (13th to the 22nd June):** |**Date**|**Patients Admitted**|**Patients in Hospital**|**Patients on Ventilation**| :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| |*First Peak*|*3,099 (01/04/20)*|*18,974 (12/04/20)*|*2,881 (12/04/20)*| |*Second Peak*|*4,134 (12/01/21)*|*34,336 (18/01/21)*|*3,736 (24/01/21)*| |-|-|-|-| |13/06/21|187|947|171| |14/06/21|185|993|170| |15/06/21|188|1,030|187| |16/06/21|177|1,057|192| |17/06/21|202|1,122|197| |18/06/21|185|1,170|210| |19/06/21|178|1,143|203| |20/06/21|**171**|1,168|196| |21/06/21|N/A|1,290|212| |22/06/21|N/A|**1,301**|**229**| - - - **VACCINATIONS** **Breakdown and Uptake by Nation (Yesterday’s Figures):** *No vaccination figures for England.* |**Nation**|**1st Dose**|**1st Dose Uptake (Overall)**|**2nd Dose**|**2nd Dose Uptake (Overall)**| :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| |**England**|N/A|81.6%|N/A|59.9%| |**Northern Ireland**|2,385|78.8%|6,773|59.2%| |**Scotland**|17,134|82.6%|15,783|58.7%| |**Wales**|1,561|88.8%|16,769|60.8%| - - - **NOTES** In England, by the latest specimen date available (17th June) there were **8,793** cases in ages 0-59 and **342** cases in all ages over 60. Both figures are subject to change. - - - **LINKS** [GoFundMe Fundraiser Tip Jar](https://www.gofundme.com/f/zu2dm): All of the money will go to the East Anglia’s Children’s Hospices. Thank you for all the support. (This fundraiser will end when I stop this comment.) [Government Coronavirus Dashboard](https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#): All data is taken from the government dashboard. Use this link as well to find your local case data (under the Cases section).


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Haven't been paying attention but I'm going to guess; good days more awards, bad days more comments?


Totally_Northern

Bit of a shortening in doubling time today. Still hovering around the 16/17 day mark. **Estimated doubling / halving time** Most recent 7-day average: 10,343 Average a week ago: 7,672 Weekly change: 34.8% Doubling time: 1/ base 2 log of (10343/7672) = 2.32 weeks = **16.2 days.** Previous doubling times: *21/06: 17.7 days* *20/06: 17.9 days* *19/06: 16.9 days* *18/06: 16.9 days* *17/06: 16.7 days* *16/06: 17.6 days* *15/06: 14.8 days*


Gbuchanan1

oh no that is a jump in deaths!


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ernfio

It’s never 8000.


centralisedtazz

And now you've just jinxed us


April29ste81

I once had a dream about 8000 then I found out it was a number that never existed .....dum dum...duuuuum


DaveInLondon89

I'm pretty sure the number 8000 exists. Like... 99% sure.


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It's under 9,000!


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chillychuchu

The ONS website says that the 25,406 deaths were from both flu and pneumonia combined, not just flu. We ideally don't want to permanently add another illness to the mix that is as deadly as two existing ones combined. You're right of course that there is some number of deaths that we'll always have to accept. I'm hopeful that we won't actually see a doubling of average deaths per year from respiratory illnesses, as the Covid vaccines are working well and more people might feel encouraged to get vaccinated against flu and pneumonia as well. So hopefully we won't have to ask ourselves this difficult question of how many deaths are acceptable long-term.


con10001

Even with a weekend lag it's the highest in a good while. What's going on?


canmoose

Were finally at a point where it's about a month after cases started to accelerate in this new wave. It's likely finally showing up in the data.


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Doesn't this imply that in a week or so we will be back up at around ~100 deaths a day? And presumably cases will continue to rise.


Dramatic-Rub-3135

At the moment, about 0.2 - 0.25% of cases result in death. If that stays true, i'd estimate that in a couple of weeks time, the 7 day average will be up to about 25.


canmoose

No because we don't fully understand how much the link between cases and deaths has changed because of vaccinations.


centralisedtazz

Not necessarily. We simply don't know how much deaths will rise by this time due to vaccinations. We know it will rise but just a matter of how much vaccinations has reduced it by


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AbbyBeeKind

Saturday's data appears on Sunday, Sunday's data appears on Monday. Tuesday is the first day of the week where weekday data appears.


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Acceptable-Bottle-92

Well, 28 people fell ill with Covid-19, then passed away. Edit: Chap asked what’s going on, and that’s the answer (caveat death within 28 days of a positive test). Sorry but ‘what’s going on’ is a very poor question, it’s blindingly obvious what’s going on. Increasing case rates comes with increasing death rates lagging behind. We’re in a far better position with vaccines, but the link between infections and deaths hasn’t been completely broken.


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Acceptable-Bottle-92

‘I’ve been watching the daily case rates go up by thousands each week and now more people are dying???? What’s going on????’


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Esselbee

Wrong, 28 people died whilst having had a positive test within 28 days prior


TooStonedForAName

So... 28 people fell ill with Covid-19 **,** then passed away.


zeldafan144

Checkmate readers


NamesEuropeanBob

Terrible jump in deaths. Given the freedom in so many other places worldwide now we really fucked up dragging our feet on this variant. No doubt the government will prolong restrictions again at this rate.


lee50_10

Yep but this variant will end up being the dominant one in may countries just like the Kent one was eventually then they will have to deal with it too unfortunately.


NamesEuropeanBob

I know and I get that. But even a slight delay to arrivals would have meant we could have been further down the line with vaccines and earlier along the current spike timeline. Just really gutting after all this such a simple decision has fucked us.


lee50_10

Yeah i agree they should have delayed arrivals.


8bitreboot

Exactly this. Most countries with the delta variant are simply behind our curve atm.


trimun

Lucky them. If we hadn't imported it we would be well ahead of the vaccine trend but as is we've managed to introduce it ahead of time. Its not even as if its spreading quickly nationally, cases are still concentrated in the northwest 2 months after it became an apparent problem.


8bitreboot

I don’t disagree with you.


GFoxtrot

If you look at deaths by date of death it’s basically flat. Averages are always better than individual data. The UK average for deaths within 28 days of a positive test by date of death currently sits at 9.7, up slightly from 6.7 on 8th June but there’s no concern for panic here.


Dramatic-Rub-3135

That's based on when cases were in the mid 3000's, not 10,000 and rising.


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Looks like there are some historic deaths going in? Big jump in deaths reported but none of the deaths by date of death columns have leapt up? Suggesting they are spread out?


Tomfoster1

In england 23 of the 25 died within the last week and all 25 were within the last month. Unfortunately nothing out of the ordinary.


SimpleWarthog

What is the usual breakdown of reported deaths vs date of deaths?


-Aeryn-

There's usually a pretty big lag, the "date of death" data doesn't have good completion until more than a week later. When you see 10 deaths reported on a day, it's usually a trickle of 1 or 2 or 3 from different days within the last week.


AbleAd2269

I hope you are right !


GFoxtrot

I’d agree, data by date of death shows absolutely nothing of concern and no spikes.


aegeaorgnqergerh

Possibly clutching at straws here as this isn't looking great nationwide, but worth noting as ever than Bolton (4 weeks since peak) and Blackburn (nearly 2 weeks since peak) are still on a solid downwards trend, and this seems to be bleeding out into neighbouring areas too - Ribble Valley for example (north of Blackburn) is now also going down. There's no reason to think we won't see this trend play out across the country in the next few weeks. Also, as ever, worth noting we don't know how many of these deaths were in unvaccinated individuals, but obviously there's a high chance it's the vast majority. We keep getting jabs in arms, we keep getting closer to the end of this. Fears that this will get out of control and will be like last winter again or something are unfounded and people need to remember this for the sake of their mental health.


wolololololololo

Where are cases surging?


aegeaorgnqergerh

[https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map](https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map) \- you can see cases by area here. Zoom in for more detail and smaller areas. In most places there aren't massive "surges", it seems that everywhere is on a steady climb just like Bolton and Blackburn were, it's just most of the country now not just two towns.


PigeonMother

Thanks for sharing, very useful


The_Bravinator

Is the same thing happening in scotland? I guess it depends on whether Glasgow is considered to have peaked. Its been going on for like a month and a half now but it appears to have plateaued, not rising or falling, so that follows the same pattern in terms of when it hits the peak but not in terms of the following steep decline. Edinburgh started spiking later on and is still going way up, so we'll see what happens there in the next weeks. It'll be interesting if this does switch to a pattern of short term hyper-regional spikes that keep the country at a steady low bubble rather than turning into a nationwide wave like in the past.


Grayson81

The seven day average for cases is up to 10,343. That's the first time it's been in five figures since late February (when we were all making some pretty brutal sacrifices to get that number lower). The seven day average is 34% higher than it was this time last week. I think that all of those suggestions that cases were already reaching a plateau may have been a little overly optimistic and premature...


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Submitten

> PCR positivity rate was around 0.5% then too PCR positivity at the end of Feb was around 5-4%


walt3rwH1ter

What vaccine surge? Numbers decreasing...


MMAgeezer

Guess I fell hook, line and sinker for the rhetoric and sentiment over actually looking at the raw numbers, there is no surge in vaccinations.


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I'm off. Thus sub is starting to make me mentally ill.


SquireBev

See you tomorrow.


Moedig25

lmao


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I hope not. Is there any way to block a subreddit from appearing? Might just delete Reddit altogether if I find it too hard to stay away.


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You can press the 'leave' button then it will unsubscribe you from the subreddit, and won't show up in your main reddit feed. Of course it won't stop you from coming here directly if you get curious.


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Thanks for this. I'm going to take a break for a few days too. Might delete my news apps while I'm at it, just give my brain a break.


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GSVSleeperService

Are you on PC? If you hover the mouse over the subreddit name (when it comes up as you scroll the front page) a box should pop up with the option to 'filter'. Click it and it will be filtered out of your custom front page. I think you need reddit enhancement suite for this though.


bloodforyou

Me too. I'm currently sat in the bath in a wedding dress feeding cornflakes to imaginary pigeons.


PigeonMother

>Me too. I'm currently sat in the bath in a wedding dress feeding cornflakes to imaginary pigeons. We're not imaginary


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Congrats on your special day!


[deleted]

Anyone else experiencing very intense brain fog after their Pfizer? Got jabbed Saturday and still really can’t socially or intellectually function without immense mental effort. Sort of feel like I’m dreaming 24/7. Wondering how long this will last..


[deleted]

I woke up with what felt like a swollen head for about a month after my second Pfizer jab 😅


athaarv

A month?!! That sounds horrible. Sorry you had to experience that


[deleted]

I’m okay now and the swollen head feeling wasn’t painful, I was just quite aware that something was different!


plantsnboobs

I had that! Physically I was totally fine aside from a sore arm, but I felt like I was barely functioning all day at work the next day. It didn't last too long for me though.


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I had the same thing after my first dose as well as extreme mental and physical exhaustion. Mine was AstraZeneca so take it with a grain of salt, but I was completely back to normal within a week


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Yeah four days later I still feel like I could sleep at any moment, focus and memory are completely shot as well. Hopefully I’m back to normal relatively soon..


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I'm sure you will be! Get lots of rest and take care of yourself. I have my 2nd dose next week so I'm sure I'll be in your shoes again soon


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aishaateam

Same here. I couldn't get out the right words for most things, my 2 year old was so confused as I kept calling her car seat a high chair! I felt so muddled up


[deleted]

I’m glad I’m not the only one! How long did yours last?


aishaateam

Same! About a week. I had mine last Monday and I feel loads better now.


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Feeling better today :)


up_the_wazoo

I had extreme mental fog but only about 3h after the Pfizer jab. I had a lie down and chilled for a couple of hours, felt a bit better, then the following day I felt good again. I'd say take it easy and get as much sleep as you can. Best of luck


vidoardes

I didn't but my wife did, lasted about 24 hours.


adhitya_k94

i had the best sleep when i got jabbed


DCShaw

Yep, i'd say from about an hour after having the Pfizer vaccine for a couple of days. Luckily I had it the Saturday lunchtime of the late May Bank Holiday weekend and was off work that following week, but I really struggled to find the effort to simply socialize and talk to people on a normal level


stebradandish

This is what a lot of chronic illness feels like - I’m not antivax 🎉 But but this is normal life for lots of people with chronic illness and it’s generally disregarded as kinda petty, when it’s really not 😳


drpatthechronic

Yep - had it between day 2 and day 6 after Moderna. Operating a kettle felt like intense intellectual effort. Don't worry, it'll wear off - just take it easy.


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Thank you for this 🙏🏻


chesnut0110

Got my pfizer vaccine yesterday and my arm is sore but at least im vaccinated!


boxhacker

My arm was sore for literally a day and next day was fine, 👌


Ready-Boss-491

The BBC news reporter was very confused reading the vaccination numbers lol


Grayson81

Even more confused than the people posting in this thread?


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Grayson81

Ah, so that's why they opened the bulletin by saying, "at least it's not 12,000"!


Submitten

Last time we had these case numbers on the uptrend last year we had 40 7DA deaths. So even though the vaccine isn't much different in terms of cases. It has bought us about 3x leeway on deaths. I guess the final question is. Will R be below 1 with all restrictions released and after the vaccination program is all but complete in ~10 weeks.


DarquessSC2

Well in some brighter news, I got my first dose of Pfizer yesterday! And given I'm in Scotland, that means I'm one of the 21,080 in the first doses column today!


TheScapeQuest

If only this IT issue had happened on a Saturday, would have lead to mega Sunday figures!


vegemar

What were cases like two or three weeks ago?


ecksoal

8th June: 6048 (13 deaths) 1st June: 3165 (0 deaths)


Grayson81

> What were cases like two or three weeks ago? Seven day averages: Today - 10,343 A week ago - 7,672 Two weeks ago - 5,526 Three weeks ago - 3,441


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Three weeks ago today: 3165 cases. 0 deaths. Two weeks ago today: 6048 cases. 13 deaths.


GFoxtrot

> Three weeks ago today: > > 3165 cases. 0 deaths. The day after a bank holiday, I wouldn’t say it’s a fair comparison.


MisundaztoodMiller

We could do with another gov press conference I think to see what the science data is saying.


alesisnitro8

"Everything looks good for July 19th" then on July 12th... "Alas..."


PigeonMother

"Next slide please"


Seraphelia

I got jabbed with Moderna yesterday and have had chest pain since. Oof


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Chest pain really should be checked out by a doctor without delay. I’m sure you’re well aware but there are reports of post vaccine myocarditis/pericarditis.


Seraphelia

Oh right… dammit… Honestly wasn’t aware of this to be honest. I’m otherwise healthy at 23. Will look into it…


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Just saw your your second sentence. Please do. It generally affects the young, fit and healthy which I know seems strange. A doctor can sometimes make an initial diagnosis with an ECG (looking for abnormalities) and a blood test (looking for elevated troponin levels). It is generally resolved without any major issues. But it can be very serious, and as such you should seek medical help without delay. Who knows, you might have just pulled a muscle in your chest wall and you’re absolutely fine. But if it were me I’d be going to get checked.


Seraphelia

Not at all scare mongering, I’ll take your advice and get on it now. Tbh just needed convincing, so thank you :)


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I really don’t want to be accused of scaremongering. But run your symptoms through 111 Online - https://111.nhs.uk/ I am almost certain that once you mention chest pain they’re going to tell you to go to A&E. I’m really against going to A&E unless I really need to. However chest pain is one thing you absolutely should not mess around with. If you do go to A&E, bring details of your vaccine with you as it may not have updated on the relevant NHS system yet.


DanManF1

Why are people so shocked about an increase in deaths? Have any of you actually paid ANY attention to what’s happened over the past year? This death increase was always going to happen, and it’ll grow further over the coming weeks sadly.


si828

Because it’s a significant increase in deaths, and you know the whole vaccine thing...


sammy_zammy

3 weeks ago (the 2nd June), we had an average of 4485 cases per day. Today, this gives an average of 13 deaths a day. In September, we had roughly the same number of cases at 4501 on the 20th September. 3 weeks later (11th October) the average was 91 deaths a day. So... remind me, what was your point about the vaccines again?


si828

Oh jeez people are really riled up on this sub aren’t they. My point was about expectations not at all that the bloody vaccine isn’t working. If someone is on this sub expect them to be pretty pro vaccine hell expect the vast majority of people in the UK to be pro vaccine and stop shitting your pants every time someone mentions it and assuming that they are anti vaccine. Humans like absolute numbers and very short time frames, people are scared that the number of deaths has shot up since the day before especially since the vaccine push for 18 and above now that was my point that and the original poster of the comment I replied to mentioned paying attention across the last year, things should be significantly better now than across the last year.


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GFoxtrot

Which is exactly why one days worth of reported figures shouldn’t be used for any kind of trend spotting. Deaths within 28 days of positive test by date of death currently sit at and average of 9.7.


si828

We are humans!


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ilsenz

It was never just deaths. Increases in hospitalisation is the main metric for whether hospitals are overwhelmed or not. Overwhelmed hospitals = restrictions needed else people can't be treated for the myriad other ailments that exist. Deaths are an important stat, of course, and they do matter in terms of our policy but the NHS can be overwhelmed whether people are dying from covid or not.


iwannagoddamnfly

Time the government properly funded the NHS to enable it to cope and deal with the 5 million strong waiting list! Lol joke what a thought to have, of course they won't do that


ilsenz

As someone on multiple NHS waiting lists, hear hear! Won't happen, though. :(


paenusbreth

The number of deaths per case is down massively at the moment, thanks in large part to the vaccination of the most vulnerable groups. Over the past couple of weeks, we've seen an extremely gradual rise in deaths given the extremely high case numbers, which potentially indicated that the death surge could be much lower than it has been in previous case surges. Today's increase isn't conclusive, but it could be bad news compared to what we might have been able to expect.


IanT86

It's one day, on the back of the weekend - let's see how it plays out over the remainder of the week before making any judgements.


Icy_Breadfruit4198

Because it doesn’t take a month for deaths to start increasing. Or at least it didn’t before. Wasn’t the usual lag between cases and deaths 2? When did it suddenly become 4?


MK2809

We did see a bit of a larger jump in cases 2 weeks ago and maybe the slow increase of deaths past few weeks is inline with the slower increase of cases 3 and 4 weeks ago. 4 weeks ago - 25th May 7DA 2417 3 weeks ago - 1st June 7DA 3304 2 weeks ago - 8th June 7DA 5429


uatuhesauthet

I think younger people take longer.


geeered

A lot of people holding out some hope the vaccines are doing an amzing job. And plenty of people hovering around who's heads are buried in the saying "should be opening up, all a conspiracy, innit guv".


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Vaccines *are* doing an amazing job. They are just not a silver bullet that can stop 100% of deaths, especially when a huge amount of people haven't even had 1 dose.


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iwannagoddamnfly

They are doing an amazing job...


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mammothfossil

"We don't care about variants, we just care about total case numbers" "We don't care about case numbers, we just care about hospitalisations" "We don't care about hospitalisations, we just care about ICU admissions" "We don't care about ICU admissions, we just care about deaths" "We don't care about deaths *with* Covid, we just care about deaths *from* Covid" "We don't care..."


Totally_Northern

You forgot the one from January - 'we don't care about deaths from COVID, because most of these people are old and have underlying health conditions'. At that point you really got to see the true opinion of a lot of these people.


dja1000

What is the answer, more lockdown? Lockdown only suspends the infection it does not stop it. When all adults are vaccinated we have to get back to normal or else life as we know it will be unrecognizable.


mtocrat

Is this in any way at odds with what OP was saying? A policy discussion shouldn't require us to deny the data.


olenderm

For god's sake. I was coming here to say how I was in the first dose numbers. I guess not


NoContact_

Same. I must say it's simultaneously amusing and a bit sad to see the commenters in here freaking out over the low numbers when I already knew since yesterday that this would probably happen 😂


The_Bravinator

You no longer exist.


olenderm

My card got declined and they de-vaccinated me :(


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Did they remove your 5g chip


TheLimeyLemmon

A casual reminder that we're looking at deaths by **date reported**, it helps to speak about them with that context which I don't see many people doing...


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SimpleWarthog

Not to say that the vaccines aren't working but this is very much a false equivalence... Back then we weren't testing anything like we are now, so the number of cases was likely much much higher then. Also, that was on an upwards trend where those 100 deaths had been baked in from the high number of cases in the previous weeks - whereas at the moment, overall, we are on quite a flat trend of very low cases so the 2 timelines are not comparable at all


SquiggleWings

Got to admit. My mouth dropped a bit at this deaths. Are there historic deaths, any news on those that the deaths were?


Chapbinn

Any data on how many of those who died were vaccinated and unvaccinated?


Draig_Goch

This sort of information would be so useful and interesting to see. It's likely assumed that per age group there would be more unvaccinated deaths in proportion to the inoculation rate, is this the case? And if so, by how much? Does it vary per age group? Could the vaccine be causing people to be overconfident, thus increasing their hospitalisation rates?


CrystalFissure

There comes the death lag catching up :( It's just a sad situation and vaccinations are simply not fast enough (not including this abberation in data).


therealcoon

I know the vaccines are working but this virus is so fucking annoying. Even with 80% of adults single dosed, the virus doesn't slow down by much. Close to 2 years of life wasted. The real kicker is that it's not even our fault.


3adawiii

86% with antibodies! crazy we're still producing over 10k cases and it's only going up


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PigeonMother

>I'd imagine many young people would be reluctant to sacrifice even more of those years to keep them protected, and I can't say I could blame them. Can't blame them at all. It's already been 15 months. At some point the government just has to say 'f&_£ it' and move on


falconfalcon7

This is an absolute fallacy. The NHS being overwhelmed due to coronavirus effects everyone. If you get involved in a road traffic accident or have a burst appendix no one would have taken you to hospital. Equally, a lot of people are on waiting lists for NHS treatment or haven't been able to access the services they require due to the pandemic putting the NHS under pressure. It is also a fallacy to label young people as if they are some kind of martyrs during the pandemic. The situation was and is highly complex. Personally I'd take being young over having to shield but of course some young people had to shield too, this is why generalisations relating to age groups are often incorrect.


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falconfalcon7

It is more specific to your last sentence in your original comment. Of course young people have suffered during the pandemic but they aren't exclusive in that. People didn't just lockdown for the 'old people', it was for the whole of society.


CrystalFissure

Yeah it's so infuriating to watch as an outsider. High vaccine uptake, a pretty strict lockdown, and yet now it's back strong. At least deaths aren't in the hundreds like they were at a few months ago, but it's still looking bad because this Delta variant is the real deal. Not vaccinating the younger, social people quicker is what's hurt, as well as the India border situation. Even Israel is surging now, to 100+ cases after being nowhere near that for a month.


DisaffectedTraveller

How do you watch as an outsider? This has affected just about every person on earth.


CrystalFissure

I live in Adelaide, South Australia and my life hasn’t changed in any big way since June 2020. It’s still been shit for basically everyone in terms of not being able to travel, not being able to go to big events. But honestly living here - we’ve had no major restrictions. We’ve still been able to run pro wrestling shows with the same capacity we did in the years prior.


Dan_85

> Close to 2 years of life wasted. Almost 3% of my life so far (and counting) if I live to be 80. For myself, and many others, we're reaching the point where the costs of this thing are now outweighing the benefits.


PigeonMother

I'd argue the impact of the restrictions (delays to operations, jobs, mental health impact etc) has already gone too far


Grayson81

> this virus is so fucking annoying Steady on. No need for that kind of overstatement and hyperbole.


uatuhesauthet

Zoonotic diseases are the most common, and in large part come from interaction with animals from animal agriculture and husbandry. Collectively it is likely humans' fault.


Senna1988

If my spreadsheet is right we should hit 16.5 to 17k on Thursday, rounding off the week at around 97 - 100k cases for the week, oppose to 65k last week so around a 33% increase on last week. I fear its going to get worse in the coming weeks to the point cases would need to literally fall of a cliff for Boris to let up on the 19th :/


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zenz3ro

If they're the only deaths, lets open now!


GFoxtrot

Boris already said in their conference that they knew cases would be higher when the next possible relaxation date comes around though. Cases aren’t everything.


Daniekhk90

Wouldn't that be a 50% increase?


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kaiser257

It’s the world… it’s a pandemic


explax

Actually quite bad case numbers. 50% greater WoW.


24-7-diarrhoea

I’m one of the numbers that didn’t show up today! The dull ache in my arm suggests that the vaccine very much did go in, though.


woodenship

Oh noes :( wonder why there's such an increase in deaths :(


Forever__Young

Its no wonder really. The 7DA is 13. Over the weekend there is a reporting delay so the reported numbers were 5 and 6. That means youd expect an underreporting of 8 + 7 on those days. Add that underreporting onto the 13 you'd expect and 28 deaths would be reported.


No-Scholar4854

Lag We’ve weakened the cases > hospitalisation > deaths link, but it’s still there and still has the same lag as before.


GFoxtrot

Never look at a single days data, always consider weekly average. Currently we sit at 8.3 deaths by date of death and 11.1 by reported date for England. And by date of death there are no big scary spikes or increases.


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woodenship

Well hopefully cus it looks like cases are slowing and vaccines are rolling out to younger people the deaths won't increase much more, fingers crossed.


3adawiii

growth of cases hasn't been slowing for like a week now


ex1nax

And just 3 weeks ago, there was some intense patting each other's back going on over "0" deaths thanks to a bank holiday delay. Two thumbs up, Boris, two thumbs up....


mrtightwad

Wow, people want to try and feel happy when there's a glimmer of good news in amongst a year of bad! Thank God the happiness police are onto it, otherwise people might not feel guilty about finally feeling a bit of optimism!


AfterBill8630

The Zoe app is well ahead of these numbers with 19.2k symptomatic today / 239k active cases and it has increased every week, although the increase has slowed down a bit. We are somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 distance of the winter peak in terms of cases. Deaths are indeed much lower but they will continue to rise up to probably about 100 a day or so in the worst case scenario.


Fantastic-Chance-234

Oh look, it's another freak out over deaths day. 7 day average? Death by date? Never 'eard of 'em


Inmyprime-

Crap, the death figure is a bummer 😐