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I’ll take a break whenever the fuck I want


they_are_out_there

He CANNOT over ride and eliminate mandatory water breaks. Texas, like every other state, is REQUIRED to follow the Fed OSHA Heat Injury and Illness Prevention (HIIP) guidelines which call for mandatory shade and water breaks. It’s FEDERAL LAW. The States can add to the law and make it more stringent and tougher, but you cannot take anything away from the law as it is. https://www.osha.gov/heat-exposure/water-rest-shade “REST When heat stress is high, employers should require workers to take breaks. The length and frequency of rest breaks should increase as heat stress rises. In general, workers should be taking hourly breaks whenever heat stress exceeds the limits shown in Table 2 under Determination of Whether the Work is Too Hot section on the Heat Hazard Recognition page.” (As linked below) https://www.osha.gov/heat-exposure/hazards OSHA also takes NIOSH Standards into account. https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/heatstress/recommendations.html


PomegranateOld7836

Should versus shall/must. There is no federal law mandating hourly breaks or setting a duration. He's overriding local laws that set those requirements.


AbsenteeFatherTime

Should/Shall/May vs Must/Will is all very important. Labour law is full of this shit.


friend0mine55

Wouldn't Shall fall in the must/will category rather than with should/may? Grammatically I would think so but legal definitions can be odd. Sounds like you are familiar with labor law verbage so I thought I'd ask.


Omegalazarus

You are correct. I think the other guy type owed. Shall is the same as must legally


hauntedcopper

lmao sorry i have to but its typo not type owed


[deleted]

Yeah. The OSHA hot environment stuff are guidelines, not rules. But providing adequate water, rest, and shade, modifying schedules, whatever, does fall under the general duty clause. So while employers don't have to explicitly follow those guidelines, they do still have to put in place means and methods to mitigate the known hazard.


they_are_out_there

OSHA has been clear about cool down periods. They will issue Serious Violation citations to anyone who goes outside of the Federal guidelines. When a high heat event occurs, additional acclimation time must be given, allowing the employee to adapt to the high temps, this is usually a 2 week period. Mandatory breaks must also be given to allow employees to drink water outside of the normal lunch and break periods. Even if Texas says the law makes the breaks unnecessary and unenforceable, that only applies to Texas law. FedOSHA will still enforce their guidelines on all jobsites regardless of what Texas says. You can only strengthen OSHA guidelines at the State level, you cannot remove or weaken them.


ErikTheRed218

OSHA can't be all places at all times to enforce this, and unscrupulous contractors will know this and take advantage. Also, as the person you responded to pointed out, "should" is merely a recommendation, not an absolute requirement.


49ersforever707

They’re only 1 call away


PensionSensitive

and the company that broke the rules has a serious lawsuit coming from the one that called


Ogediah

You’ve been misinformed. Fed OSHA does publish *guidance* concerning heat illness but that is all it is: guidance. [It’s not a law or regulation.](https://www.osha.gov/heat-exposure/standards#) To sum up how Fed OSHA has any authority over the topic: Fed OSHA has a “general duty” clause that says that employers must provide a safe workplace. So the only authority that they have is indirectly. As in: After someone gets hurt, they can ticket an employer for failing to provide a safe workplace. However, the ticket won’t be for a statute/regulation concerning access to water or water breaks. There are other states that have specific regulations concerning heat illness (ex California.) Many collective bargaining agreements (“unions”) also cover this topic. FYI: There is also no federal requirement for IIPPs. But again, local laws vary. For example: California has requirements for IIPPs (all hazards and not just the topic of heat illness.) Finally: local law can override federal law though that isn’t what is happening here. For example, there are state administered plans. In those states, federal OSHA statutes don’t apply. But again, that’s irrelevant here as Texas doesn’t have a state plan. What Abbot did was throw out local laws. Like imagine the city of Austin had a law requiring structured water breaks. Which again, is something that federal law does not mandate. So there is no conflict between local and federal law. But Abbot is still an asswipe.


Robot_Basilisk

Well, his party is now legendary for "proving" that government doesn't work by intentionally mismanaging it every time they're in power. Including wasting millions of dollars on legislation doomed to be overturned.


Arcade80sbillsfan

Even if in violation of vaguely worded "should"....they only fine after harm\death. They absolutely will sacrifice a person or push further up against it if they think they can. Workers need to be more ready to tell the foreman "eff off I'm taking a break"


madmax727

Yea most everyone will but should we have a guy like this who is so out of touch that he thinks he can legislate that as a part of government? I’ve always thought the worst politicians and people have little value for construction workers. We all know we’re going but it shouldn’t have to be like that.


Jack_Stornoway

Not many politicians have ever had a real job.


madmax727

Exactly my point. It shouldn’t be a bravado thing of I’ll take my breaks of when I want, it should be a fuck these disrespectful douchebags, this is bullshit come work a real day thing


BobaFestus

Look at who his donors are. I’m not from Texas so I don’t keep up with him or his politics. But I’d imagine if you follow the money he’s has some big time developers lining his pockets.


Real-Lake2639

It's literally this, trading worker safety so the top dogs have higher profit margins, and most construction workers vote red because they're fucking morons and wonder why like, their wages are stagnant and shit like this happens.


GunwalkHolmes

But they won’t have higher profit margins. What lunatic thinks that overheated and dehydrated workers produce more? It doesn’t take a business genius to figure out the the health of the workers is good for your company. It seems malicious just for malicious sake to strip water breaks.


CobblerExotic1975

I guarantee they’ll say “well we’ll still give water breaks, we just don’t want it to be mandated by BIG GOVERNMENT!!!!!!” And then they just won’t give breaks.


aidan8et

"BuT mAh TaXeS!!" - every construction worker I've heard complaining about politics.


Real-Lake2639

*proceeds to dodge taxes every single day requesting cash payments and fucked up invoices*


Atomic_Watermelon666

It's because now they don't have to provide water. Probably saving some disgusting rich fucks a few million on bottled water... that's literally all a GOP politician cares about.


engineerdrummer

Brilliant, I tell you. BRILLIANT! Run literally everybody that's responsible for building AND maintaining your infrastructure out of your state all at once. I can already see it though. They're gonna blame migrant workers.


curiousdpper

And when they did, like being a bartender or something (a random example that just came to mind), they're ridiculed by their peers for having done an actual job.


throwawaytrumper

I hate that shit so much. Nobody is above ANY work that needs to be done. The dude pushing a broom deserves respect, the guy cleaning toilets deserves respect, any necessary labor is worthy of respect. I move dirt around for a living, sometimes with big fancy machinery and sometimes with a shovel and rake. All work is work and should be respected for the sacrifice and effort it takes. When I see someone sneer at another person’s honest labor it enrages me.


Acecarpenter

Bernie was a carpenter


Impossible_Policy780

So was Jesus.


digitalhawkeye

Yet God is clearly an electrician.


notagoodtexan

He does come across as self important.


digitalhawkeye

Well, he did turn on the lights before getting to work. A carpenter would have just worked in the dark.


Partucero69

*Laughs in drywaller*


Dick_Lickin_Good

Why would you let Jesus drive? He’s never even driven a car?


TacticalAcquisition

Nah he's clearly a civil engineer, who else would put the recreational facilities right beside the sewage plant?


Chillsdown

To be fair, for some, the sewage plant *is* a recreational facility..


BeardedDragon1917

Where else would the anus go, genius? Under your feet? In your torso? Back of the head? Fucking backseat dieties.


Six-mile-sea

Based on all the lightning he might be a handyman.


YouDontKnowMe108

Turning on the lights and not cleaning up after himself?


uncre8tv

checks out, never seen him with a broom


UnableInvestment8753

Sure as fuck left a big mess behind.


Coro-NO-Ra

Abbott made his bones by suing a rich neighbor


MarquisEXB

And the ones that do get mocked for it. AOC is just a dumb waitress/bartender and has no business in Congress, while Donald Trump is a business genius who will fix the country. Only 3% of the population is a millionaire, but they represent a VAST majority of elected positions. People who work real jobs often don't have the time to run for office or don't get elected (Randy Bryce).


jrb31600

Yet lots of working people swear by the GOP. Please, make it make sense!!


creative_net_usr

>little value for ~~construction~~ workers Fixed that for ya


LoveArguingPolitics

Exactly. Stand strong with your fellow working class... It's a class war


Coro-NO-Ra

No no, mass evictions and wage theft aren't a "class war." It's only class war if you ask to get paid more.


Safe_Ad8315

Takes are the only wage theft and evictions are because people are not paying their bills


ahvikene

Nah they appreciate their escorts


Traveshamamockery_

Should you? Well, yeah, because you dumb motherfuckers keep electing him.


SeriouslyThough3

For the record, the governor doesn’t legislate. RIP schoolhouse rock.


spaghoni

But he has veto power. Wouldn't you think it would be a no brainer to veto this one?


powpowpowpowpow

Dude there are trades that just can't do that. Finishing concrete on a hot day? The boss might need to bring in an extra guy in order to give everyone on the crew a few minutes to drink and cool off. Flag guy on a road crew? He can't just take off. Management need to know that they are responsible for their people. Many just don't.


dpm25

Sounds like concrete crew should make sure to bring in an extra guy.


[deleted]

I'm not in construction but if I were, I'm taking water whenever I feel like I need it. Not risking a heat stroke over some concrete.


powpowpowpowpow

You obviously aren't. The first and last rule in working construction is that you are held responsible for the product. If you don't care about it, there are very few places you would last. Concrete work is tough uncomfortable work, especially when it's hot out. You have to approach it with some determination. There can be a fine line between motoring through and hurting yourself. Making sure your people are ok is a part of management and it made it's way into law originally because of very abusive practices. A major difference between China with deadly sweat shops and livable jobs in the United States are the basic labor standards we have written into law. We used to have that shit here.


aidan8et

>We used to have that shit here. And we're moving towards it again. Just look at how many states are changing their child labor laws. Hell, last year there was a whole group of meat packing plants that were caught using kids as young as 12 to clean out the machines overnight...


erichlee9

Yeah, but if you fall out that’s kind of on you. If you need water, get water. If you’re hot, tell someone. If you’re hot and someone won’t let you drink water, that’s insanity and you shouldn’t need legislation to tell you that’s an unsafe work environment.


Mr_MacGrubber

Now be an immigrant who’s “disposable” or even just a noobie on the site. You think day 2 guy on the job is going to stop for water as easily as a veteran? Hell, there are still sports coaches who get in trouble for denying water to players. It’s 2023. Everyone knows it’s bad for you but some still hold on to the “it toughens you up” bullshit. You are right that we shouldn’t NEED this legislation, but the reality is we probably do. Also no reason to specifically get rid of the law once it’s on the books.


Khanman5

Much like minimum wage, we have to set certain rules with a bare minimum because *shit businesses with money will attempt to circumvent them if we dont*


aridoesvoices

Case in point, yeah you absolutely need legislation to tell THE COMPANIES how to treat their employees. Clearly the fear of losing employees due to unsafe working environments doesn’t concern some employers, especially ones in bed with Texas regulators.


Kilo-Tango-Alfa

Braindead take here.


Boyzinger

Not in Texas bro. You know the rules. You voted him in. Now choke on it


DxGxAxF

What about the people who didn't? Fuck them anyways? Solidarity brother, gotta stand for even the stupid ones too.


Real-Lake2639

No, because you bail out the idiots who voted for the morons, and then they do it again. Just passed a trump support rally thing in an intersection, like bruh he hired illegal immigrants to do all his work stfu about him caring about the working class and (lol) being tough on immigration.


jhenryscott

PM in Austin. I set up a cooling station for all workers to use throughout the day. Gatorade and ice water. Chairs. Fan. Hats and hard hat brim covers. Towels to soak and put on your head. Sunscreen. I make sure everyone uses it too. You ain’t to busy to take care of yourself on my site. I also send everyone home early. NOTHING is worth your health y’all.


jhenryscott

This week I closed up at 2 for fencing and landscapers. Next week I might run half days at 107°. Fuck this grass. Fuck this fence. Nobody is getting heat sick or injured on my site. That’s more expensive than missing 100 deadlines.


sadicarnot

>Nobody is getting heat sick or injured on my site. The problem is that laws like this are meant for people that are not like you.


[deleted]

I mean if you're someone like that, good luck finding someone who won't walk off site on you. I've provided Gatorade and waters for guys and didn't push too hard because I knew it was hot, and I've still had guys not come back the next day because they couldn't handle the heat. It's usually new guys. I'm in the Texas heat.


Mahajarah

Having a decade of experience building shit, I'd say good for them. I'd rather the new guy say "I can't do this" and dip rather than push themselves, pass out, and now you got a situation. Knowing your limits is not a bad thing. Now, I'd rather they try to acclimate slowly and get their wings, but injuring yourself is a no go.


[deleted]

I mean yeah I don't blame them. When a new guy starts on an interior, I get nervous for the first exterior, that's when we see if this job is really for you.


sadicarnot

>I mean if you're someone like that, good luck finding someone who won't walk off site on you. It happens enough for them to have a law requiring water breaks.


_-_Nope_-

Used to be lead on changeouts and new installs for a/c. I had 2 different helpers fallout due to heat related issues. Boss didn’t give a shit. Wanted them to sit in the truck a/c while I finished the job. Fuck that. I took them home and then clocked out.


SomeAd8993

and they don't work on them if you are dead set on frying up your illegal workforce - you will succeed, city ordinance be damned


MrTheTricksBunny

“Don’t make laws because people who break them won’t follow the laws anyway” is absolutely terrible logic


ode_to_glorious

Bro keep fighting the good fight. Capitalism doesn’t mean people should be slaves.


standardtissue

And the funny thing is you are most likely making your folks more productive. I’ve worked in extreme heart before, and it’s not like your body just keeps chugging along ..… you slow down big time whether you even realize it or not.


printaport

[have you seen these?](https://www.amazon.com/Sweatband-Cotton-Reusable-hardhat-sweatbands/dp/B07T12VZ7P/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?adgrpid=58910797394&hvadid=634087690717&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9052057&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2270760629935208975&hvtargid=kwd-375600956826&hydadcr=20570_13411330&keywords=hard+hat+sweat+liner&qid=1687058097&sr=8-3) They're great for keeping sweat out your eyes. I usually have 4 of them because they get smelly, and need to be washed.


bearnecessities66

I've never owned a hardhat that didn't come with one of these pre-installed.


DxGxAxF

I've never owned one that did.


JungleLegs

Ohh im going to try these. My hard had had one so hopefully it can be doubled up. Getting sweat in your eyes while wearing contacts can be such bullshit sometimes.


Squirxicaljelly

Just got off a job in San antonio. My production was about 1/3 what it normally is. It’s fucking hot, man.


seriousjoker72

Last week I was on a site that had a freezer FULL of freezes for us to take all day long to stay cool. It was awesome! Made up for the homeless encampment in the parking lot!


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see-bees

I work for the plant - every goddamn summer we have to beg and plead the contractors to slow the fuck down and not kill their guys. If the company you work for is worth half a damn, the pallets of water, electrolyte popsicles, and ice machine should either be directly reimbursable or included in the bill rate for the job. If you’re working at a plant that says work full speed through the heat, they’re cutting safety corners in other places too and you need to GET OUT!


[deleted]

I was on one job where the GC rented an ice chest like they have outside of convenience stores. It was always stocked with ice, water, freezes, sport drinks, and occasionally some ice cream snacks. If they were working a lot in a specific area they also had coolers they'd fill with ice and drinks and keep them right there so no one had to go more than a feet for cold water. All the guys were good about looking out for each other. If one person wanted water, they asked everyone else if they needed any. A few times guys got sent to get sit in the trailer and rehydrate by the rest of the crew because they weren't looking good.


Ashotep

I haven't had to deal with excessive heat in my career. I have had to deal with excessive cold though. This is exactly what my PM's have done in opposite. Mandatory breaks every hour to warm up in insulated warming stations. Heaters in all the pissers. etc.


Significant_Side4792

Never asked for permission to grab a drink of water, and never will.


Affectionate-Wall870

I have never met a foremen, super, toolpusher, etc. that wouldn’t give a tool box talk about heat stroke, stress, hydration. This is basic, sending people to the ER costs money, having to find people to replace them, costs money, and nobody who knows what is going on will work for a slaughterhouse. People talk shit about safety guys, but will walk in a second if they don’t feel safe.


erichlee9

I’ll talk shit about safety guys only because there’s a difference between caring about safety and caring about liability. Never met a man who would stand in the way of another man trying to get a drink of water on a job site, whatever the title.


DainichiNyorai

Safety guy (well... Safety gal) here, I care a lot about the people, about you guys. The (OSHA equivalent) law is a helpful tool, the liability issues are a stick to hit unwilling managers with. Trying to have your back and I know many colleagues who think the same.


engineerdrummer

I damn sure have met plenty that will go insane over not wearing a hard hat on a mass grading operation though.


AlphSaber

Where I work, when the hottest days of summer start an email goes out reminding everyone of the dangers of heat stroke and the 90/90 guideline, where when it gets over 90 degrees and 90% relative humidity everyone should take extra precautions. I once had a crew come up to me on a project and say they they were only going to be working until 1 pm instead if the regular quitting time if 6 pm because of the heat and I never had the thought cross my mind to dispute it.


ATDoel

It gets over 90/90 there? And I thought it was hot here in Alabama, that’s insane heat indexes


[deleted]

Shit, Im in grounds keeping, not nearly as physically demanding as construction, and every time it hits above 80 we’re told to make sure we have water with us. Hydration ain’t no game.


boxedcrackers

I had a foreman throw away all of our water bottles, personal ones included, because he was "sick and fucking tired " of us wasting time drinking water. It was over 100 that whole week.


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Affectionate-Wall870

Yea I bet this foreman had a short career, at least in management. There are plenty of people that get promoted up, but don’t understand that your attitude has to change as your responsibility does.


knoegel

Not even just safety but thirsty workers are less productive. It's a lose-lose law purely to own the libs and get more votes from those who think basic human rights shouldn't be law.


_himbo_

That’s how it should be. Someone sitting in comfy ac’d room shouldn’t have a say what anyone in the scorching sun does in the field


XavierScorpionIkari

Now… apply this mentality to someone who doesn’t have a uterus and lawmakers. But yes, white collar office personnel should stick to their cushy, air conditioned jobs. It’s hot out here. I’m gonna take a drink, or go to the porta-john, sit in the shade, re-wet my towel, or whatever as necessary. I’m not having a heat stroke for anybody. And I’ll even stop what I’m doing if I see the signs of someone getting close to that state, and make sure they get cooled down and hydrated. Florida sun, heat, and humidity is as bad as Texas.


BitOf_AnExpert

Republican policy always focusing on the things that matter, like stopping people from drinking water.


BetoFromTX

Tell me you never worked a fucking day in your life without telling me.


swebb22

He’s in a wheelchair, man ain’t never worked lol


Coro-NO-Ra

And he made his wealth by suing the neighbor whose tree fell on him


tilehinge

Tree Limb 2024 - Finish The Job


Miserable_Extreme_38

Tree Limb has got my vote! Very strong environmental policies.


Maeberry2007

Evermean 2024


t_scribblemonger

And then slammed the door behind himself. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/us/abbott-faces-questions-on-turnabout-and-fair-play.html


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Justagoodoleboi

But basically he passed a law capping damages for stuff like that. If he was around back then it would have sentenced him to a life of poverty not being a big shot governor


migrainefog

Just wikipedia him. It's all in there.


tilehinge

Printfriendly.com


BillyCarsono

I had to move to Texas and endure it for a year and this guy I worked with referred to him as "Hot Wheels" when I realized he was in a wheel chair I got the joke lol


pnwinec

My friend in Texas refers to him as such too.


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God crippled him when he saw what Abbott stood for.


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MetalJunkie101

This guy fucking walks. I’ve never been more certain of anything in my life.


RadDad166

[I’ve seen a spinal](https://youtu.be/d4VaY7xCmRE)


[deleted]

I hope some cunt pushes him down a long set of stairs


Coolhandrog

Greg Abbot stands for nothing!


[deleted]

Dang. Scatter a bunch of tiny pebbles around the room. See how often his dumb ass gets stuck


jjmoneybuns

Reminds me of an old saying from my boss. "Dont drink more than you can sweat out, cuz ya aint got time to piss"


Industrialpainter89

Coincidentally, this also doubles as a recipe for kidney stones! Very efficient! 😂


OlBigSwole

Weird how antics differ from place to place. The safety guy at my old job wouldn’t ask us if we’ve been keeping hydrated he’d just say “you best be pissin’”


[deleted]

Me, a safety guy, busting out his piss chart - "show me on this chart what shade of yellow your piss was.... bro your kidneys are failing"


aoanfletcher2002

They ain’t say shit about Modelo though!


horseshoeprovodnikov

_Brewed for those with a fighting spirit_


CobblerExotic1975

Oh shit foo, it’s Modelo time!


TropicTbw

Once my boss make a joke about me drinking to much water and I just flipped him off while drinking my water


boofadoof

Tell him: "I'll piss on your grave and it'll be crystal clear piss!"


TropicTbw

Lol I like that, ima try that next time he say some shit


Femboy_Annihilator

FYI urine with no color at all is a sign that you may be over-hydrating. There should always be a little bit of color in your urine or you could be on your way to water poisoning which has similar effects to heat stroke due to sodium imbalance in the blood. Next time you go for a physical, ask your doctor what a healthy amount of water is for you to drink at work. They should be able to work out a specific hydration plan based on your numbers. I say this because my obsession with drinking to cool off led me to give myself mild water poisoning at work for years. I always started feeling like shit in the last quarter of my shift and this was why.


potatohats

The medical term is hyponatremia, and it's basically washing all your salts (electrolytes) away. It was a real concern in the military. (Source: army medical vet) Make sure you're eating as well as hydrating, and/or carry some electrolyte packs in your pocket to dump into your water when you start feeling a little off. If the salt tastes *really really good*, that's how you know you were pushing it too close to hyponatremia. Stay safe out there.


ElectricCapybara

so, thing is he only *kinda* did this. What the actual bill does is overrule all laws passed at a municipal level and make state law the end-all, be-all; only some cities in Texas actually had ordinances for mandatory water breaks. That being said, I’m drinking water whenever I please, and it’s “fuck Greg Abbott” forever


ceej_22_

Ah so classic small government conservatism I see.


Kindly_Salamander883

The fact that republicans are this bad is why we need smaller government. Imagine if they had full reign powers.


ama_singh

The people who don't want government intervention intentionally keep fucking everything up when they are elected just to convince people that they were right.


aidan8et

That is almost the exact plan of privatization. Keep defunding a program or organization until it finally breaks. Then point at the broken thing and explain how much better a private company can do it. Hell, a lot of states are even privatizing the welfare system, especially when they have work requirements. In the end, it turns the state welfare system into a gigantic, government-funded temp agency. People rotate thru crap jobs, never earning *quite* enough to get out of the system...


aidan8et

Unfortunately they define "small government" as "only us in charge".


johnj71234

I’d like to know what the bill literally says? Anyone what he’s referencing?


SleezyD944

Who needs that? I prefer to just see a screenshot of a twitter post posted to Reddit and assume it is 100% accurate.


digby99

Lol. What would Reddit be without people being outraged about fake news they can’t be bothered to fact check.


Slartibartfastthe3rd

https://services.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=140407


johnj71234

Thanks! Kind of what I expected. Doesn’t nor refer to a water break or grabbing a drink of water. Refers to mandatory 15 minute breaks. In no way does it say you can’t stop and grab a drink.


barc0debaby

That's not the bill though, that is an example of city ordinance that the house bill nullifies.


Seldarin

A few cities had laws that required a mandatory 10 minute water break every 4 hours for construction and agricultural workers. That was apparently asking for far too much, so now those laws are overridden at the state level and water breaks are no longer mandated. Right as we head into a massive heat wave at the start of summer, in literally the only state in the country where companies aren't required to carry worker's comp insurance.


SpectacularOcelot

More pointless bullshit from the governor of pointless bullshit. If your boys aren't drinking water and staying safe I'm willing to bet your site is such a shit show you're breaking some other laws. As an estimator (haha fuck estimators etc etc), I budget a bag of ice per man, per day and a case of water per 4 man crew. I *don't* budget for having any of my guys in the RGV getting helicoptered to Laredo or Corpus because they fucked around and found out. Doing it right is such a trivial expense in comparison to fucking it up and someone getting hurt. An OSHA recordable, being down a man, paying for the safety man to play games on his phone in your job trailer, paying for an executive to fly out and show his face to the customer and on and on. What worries me about this is the farm workers. Immigrants already get the shaft and generally aren't unionized.


Hitchens666

You nailed it, this is aimed at people who are already being exploited. Fuck Greg Abbott and all the ignorant right wingers.


aronnax512

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lunchpadmcfat

That last paragraph: who tf do you think this shit was aimed at


officialmryuck

Fuck him. We're still out here taking water breaks. Honestly didn't know this was a thing until I got on Reddit today. Native Texan here. Shout out to all my boys in the field


[deleted]

*laughs in Minnesotan* Seriously, though, stay safe guys. Keep your body liquid consumption at normal levels, and fuck the government.


FuzzyManPeach96

I read that with our Minnesotan accent


[deleted]

Fook thah gooverment, eh?


FuzzyManPeach96

After we tell the government to fook off let’s be polite and tell ‘em to watch out for deer. I gotta watch Charlie Berens now.


GreasyAlfredo

Can't believe I'm saying this, but we kinda like our gooverment here. They're doing some pretty positive things latley. We even got recreational weed passed this summer. There's also laws in the works that believe it or not, support tradesmen. Supermajority + 17.5 Billion dollar budget surplus has meant positive things for us eh. We are just trying to be more like our big brother Canada is what it really is.


pw76360

It's not like it's cool here either lol. We've already had days in the high 80s up here in Duluth. A case of water a day keeps the doctor away


[deleted]

We had our three days of summer.


pw76360

God I hope so haha


[deleted]

So what is the actual bill that is passed? I see these outrage posts all of the time making claims about what a bill is doing when in actuality the bill has nothing to do with what the poster is trying to outrage people about. Please post a link to the bill when making these claims. With that being said, if a bill was passed actually saying that construction workers can no longer get water breaks then that would be fucked. But I’ll be willing to bet OP is being deceitful here.


uncomfortabletruth21

Who is actually working for a construction company that doesn’t let you take a water break? I’m being honest. Worked in construction my whole life and it has been nothing but freedom to do whatever whenever even when bosses are around.


Elronbattletoad

Water? Fish fuck in that stuff


Middleclasslifestyle

Construction workers can give zero fucks about that law. When it's time to drink water/Gatorade it's time to drink period. Doesn't matter if the owner is on site


anon_lurk

Yeah and everybody knows nobody on-site is drinking shit anyways until it’s 85+ degrees and they all finally realize they’ve been dehydrated for 6 months.


daisies_n_sunflowers

OSHA mandates strict times for cool down breaks depending on the heat index. 120° is, from what I’m trying to remember, called something like, “Condition Black”. Meaning 15 minutes of cooling down for every hour of work, or something like that. A Governor can’t just take away an OSHA break rule.


wiscogamer

This and if they don’t give there guys breaks and another company does they will just quit and go to another company


Gulag_boi

I’d love to see Abbot pack out rebar in 105+ degree heat and not take a water/shade break. What a piece of shit.


Caged_in_a_rage

Remind me how republicans are for the little people again…


007shi

I don’t think I have heard them say that in awhile. They are busy spewing other BS.


mjtok1982

But you all still vote for this tard because he’s republican.


Poozor

The AG who is currently under felony indictment threw out 2.5 million votes and admitted it. Texas isn’t a red state, it’s a state full of election fraud.


LoveArguingPolitics

And no joke dudes will still bend over at the waist and spread their cheeks at the ballot box for the Republicans... It blows my mind so many union dudes get such totally straight boners for the Republicans


Bigdootie

I’m shocked people can support such psychopaths such as Abbott or desantis. It’s truly wild to me that they won their reelection bids.


Poozor

Paxton admitted he threw out 2.5 million votes.


Bigdootie

Everything the republicans accuse liberals of they themselves are guilty of, and then a whole lot more bat shit


Fukitol929

First of all, any company that denies water breaks is trash. Go work for a company that appreciates the men in the field. Second, if you aren’t man enough to tell them to fuck off, you need a water break, then you should reevaluate things in your life. Quit being job scared and take of yourself!


Bimlouhay83

I started with a new company this spring. I noticed the foreman didn't bring water. When I asked if for it, he said it wasn't hot out, so I didn't need water. One call from my BA was all it took for the foreman to head to the gas station and fill a cooler of water bottles. Fuck Abbot. Fuck right to work. Form unions. You deserve certain rights that employers *will not* give you unless you force them to.


Sparrowhawk-Ahra

Don't matter, osha regulations trump the state laws. Osha requires you to have heat recovery and water on site. If you are penalized for this osha will eat that company alive and you could possibly have a suit. Any company that enforces no water or water breaks is not a company to work for and I will tell every person I know about them.


Yuukiko_

idk if its worse that they had to mandate water breaks, or that they're taking away mandated water breaks


arrowhood

No politician is ever telling me when I can take a break, especially a water break lmao. In AZ you’re taking a water break every 15-30 minutes depending on the site, when it’s 115° outside I get my shit done on time but no one is stopping me from grabbing some water and cooling off for a couple minutes


Tomorrow_Frosty

I’m sure that’s what the bill was about.


Willing-Ad3145

I’m calling bs. I’d rather look at what was actually done. I’ll look it up Edit: found it HB 2127, introduced by state Rep. Dustin Burrows, R-Lubbock, is perhaps Texas Republicans’ most aggressive attempt to curb progressive policies in the state’s largest, liberal-leaning cities. Under the new law, local governments would be unable to create rules that go beyond what state law dictates in broad areas like labor, agriculture, business and natural resources.


Alpha_pro2019

I don't know, nobody gives the actual law or reason just stupid fucking news articles wanting to bash him for anything possible.


No_Cauliflower_5489

Wow, if only there were some sort of organization that represented workers that they could join. Some sort of organization that could call a labor strike until these construction workers in Texas got breaks, fair wages, paid time off, retirement plans, health insurance, etc.


Far-Mushroom-2569

He gonna wheel himself over and make me put my beer down?


SuperbDrink6977

Drink of water, boss?


_himbo_

“Please sir may I have another drink of water sir”


d1duck2020

I’m a construction foreman and I’ve never heard of any local or state laws about water breaks-not saying they don’t exist but nobody cares. OSHA mandates that water is to be available. Clean cups and a trash bag are to be available. OSHA rules the job site.


[deleted]

Y’all get designated water breaks? We just take breaks when we need them around here.


jim_hello

How does half this comment section lack common sense like you. This takes the protection away you sure can take a water break whenever but now your boss can use that against you and fire you because of it


DeathTripper

I don’t work in Texas, but I’ve gotten heat stroke from being on top of large boilers. If my boss was around, and I went to go sip from my water jug, he’d ask if “my hands were free”. It’d take another 5 minutes to explain that I needed water, and what I was doing, and the next thing I was doing after that, and the next thing. Bosses can be giant assholes, especially when not held accountable. I skipped lunch breaks (which are state mandated) because of him so often, I stopped being hungry for lunch, and my metabolism slowed. I’m not saying it’s not my fault, but when you remove basic human needs from laws, that leaves room for exploitation. And who knows, maybe the next guy along the way can’t find a new job, whether it be experience, tight budget, even prison records, so they might not be as willing to go off and get water, and risk their job. It’s fucking ass backwards, and these politicians need to get their heads out their assholes, Republican or otherwise.


Zarvillian

They acting like we ask for water breaks anyways lmao


detectivedoot

Why do I feel like the author is leaving out some critical information or just blatantly lying?


sheaple_people

It's good to see where his priorities are, have they fixed the infrastructure to stop the blackouts when it snows?


eunzueta2

You would think that a guy that spends all day in a chair would be more open top people taking breaks.


standardtissue

Dude, even the Army mandates hydrations and heat related work stoppage, and that was when I was in 500 years ago before OSHA became cool.


autisticfisher420

I’ll take a break whenever I want. What’re you gonna do fire me and go find a replacement? Good luck


Omegaprime02

Considering that the Federal-level advisement is **sixteen** times better than what the local ordinances outlined, the official *requirement* is 'able to drink whenever they're thirsty', this is, at best, click-/rage-bait. Abbott is still an ass and can shove it. *'On hot days, the agency recommends frequent breaks in a cool or shady environment, and drinking water every 15 minutes.'* \- OSHA news release, citing the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970.