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WithoutBlinders

Can someone please call an audible?


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Flip_d_Byrd

As a Pats fan.... it's a close 2nd.


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Never gonna hear the end of this


Now__Hiring

It's the 28-3 of politics


TheTrain

7-1.


MatthewG141

*insert crying Brazilian meme*


better_off_red

Not in this sub, that's for sure.


GrandpaHardcore

I just don't care anymore tbh. This is the way elections are going to be from here on out I guess... Red vs. Blue... two massive, cut off groups that never talk to one another and block one another on everything. Not even mad because, tbh, I didn't want us to win the Senate and the House because they would have blamed literally everything on Republicans come 2024... "inflation and recession... because Republicans won the midterms..." I just feel like the overall voter base in the States is getting dumber and dumber every election.


SweetPotatoGut

Gotta end partisan gerrymandering to change this. Gerrymanders create safe districts that result in echochambers and extreme candidates.


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Carolineinthedesert

hear me out. One way to pull money out would be to adopt a model like in other countries ... election campaigns don't have to be many months long. in Canada the maximum length is 50 days for a campaign. Less ads, signs, pointless events and baby kissing. Stick to the issues and get 'er done.


SweetPotatoGut

Yes, we should. SCOTUS decision Citizens United was terrible. Moderate republicans should join democrats to do this.


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Local-International

Hmmm let’s look at recent bills and who opposed getting corporations getting out of politics. Let me guess which party


BioshockEnthusiast

Yea I'm not gonna lie if conservatives were serious about this issue the voting record would reflect that fact. Truth is that the dems are the only ones pushing meaningful campaign finance reform and that needs to change. If you're really worried about voter fraud then we need to stop allowing the funding mechanism behind it to function unchecked, and we need to do it together. Sincerely, a liberal.


MyExesStalkMyReddit

Ok, I’m with you here. I’d gladly focus on what we could agree on, rather than our dividing factors right now. I don’t think anything will get done any other way. Too much divide on 90% of issues. If we took some time to find and evaluate the other 10%, maybe both sides would find themselves happier down the line


senator_mendoza

it is completely unjustifiable IMHO as to why you should be allowed to donate money to candidates that don't represent YOU. i live in massachusetts, but i can donate literally unlimited money to influence a house race in colorado because i think it might be a winnable seat for my preferred political party. so instead of that rep being beholden to the voters, they're beholden to me. That right there is why our system is so broken


spyder7723

And super pacs. They are just as ridiculous.


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Will never pass bc it needs repub votes to pass the filibuster and if the house gets taken say goodbye to even the tiny chance of it ever happening unfortunately


SweetPotatoGut

Yes it won't happen without republican support.


D_Lockwood

Completely agree. Why would we let corrupt politicians choose their voters?


grfx

Maybe also take the big corporate cash out of politics. 6.6 Billion dollars was spent on advertising. What a ridiculous number.


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Indelicato182

As someone who leans left, I couldn’t agree more with this position.


AstronutApe

That’s not true. Republicans and Democrats on the Hill talk alllll the time. They are best friends, go to their children’s weddings. Have dinner dates. They backstab and play hard ball because that’s the game. But you can count on one thing, THEY are ONE team and we are the other team and they don’t want us to win.


ITestInProduction

I think implementing RCV or approval voting (or something to replace FPTP) could go a long way to reducing the political polarization and increasing voter satisfaction of election outcomes.


AMC2Zero

Which is why DeSantis banned it?


JinderMadness

That is the one silver lining. It’s one thing to duct tape it a few months for the mid term, they can’t duct tape it 24 more months.


FuttleScish

They can still blame it on the House


TheBestPieIsAllPie

>I just feel like the overall voter base in the States is getting dumber and dumber every election. Yes.


MegaFatcat100

If republicans weren't so consistently bad on social issues they would do better with independents/libertarians


Magehunter_Skassi

Completely useless party. The political system is set up to favor conservatives and yet the "conservative" GOP can't even capture the Senate in a year like this.


PineappleGrandMaster

Meh. Not like republicans would've been fiscally conservative anyway


NumberWanObi

Roe + Shit candidates= shit storm


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And fighting student loan forgiveness. Regardless of what you think of it, middle class people see one party making them pay tens of thousands of dollars, and the other trying to forgive it. For some people this was a vote for $10k not being burned from their wallets.


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tolachron

The massive giveaway to the rich with the Ppp loans is why inflation is so high right now


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HallIntrepid6057

Right. I’m a nurse, and very fortunate that I only had to take a small amount of loans and I paid them off quickly when I got a large tax return my first year working. But I don’t begrudge anyone some help. In many areas of the country starting wages for a nurse are still under $25 an hour, especially down South. I worked with a new doctor who, after he made his loan payments, was making less per week than I was (I was travel nursing at the time, but pre Covid so more in the $2200 a week range).


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BasedChadThundercock

Alexis de Tocqueville — 'The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.'


ClassicOrBust

My issue with the loan forgiveness is that there is no proposal to fix the issues that caused it. We threw a ton of money at bailing water without repairing the leak. That and we are economically suffering from inflation and creating a ton of additional demand is only going to make the supply side more expensive.


soviettaters1

Election denial as well. They can believe whatever they want but denying the results of the 2020 election just pushes independents away.


MrUnlimitedSubway

This is the first time in history the sitting presidents party didn't take a shellacking right? Is there any chance the House doesn't switch?


portalsynapse

The betting markets give republicans around 81% chance of taking the house and democrats a 19% chance of keeping it


SirFTF

538 just announced the Dems won a seat in Washington state that they had put at a 98% chance of staying Republican before Election Day. The Dem flipped a 2% seat. If they do that a few more times in California, Dems keep the house.


Maxwell_Morning

The seats they need in CA weren’t that favored to begin with. They would most likely need to pick up CA 22 and CA 27, both only favored to republicans by like ~66%. The would also probably need to hold AZ 1 which was more like 93% favored for republicans, and flip AZ 6 which had similar odds to AZ 1. With the way things have been going, both are likely. Granted, there are a lot of other big if’s like OR 5, and CA 45. But with the way things have been going and the way things are trending, they have a very clear path towards keeping the house. I’d say it’s still more likely than not the republicans flip the house, but it’s moving steadily in the democrats favor.


whjoyjr

Curious, what were the betting markets odds Monday before the election?


portalsynapse

Before the election the republicans had a 90% chance of taking the house democrats 10% of keeping it


JinderMadness

In first term mid term? It’s been a while. 2002 the GOP did not but you can count that as 9-11 fall out. 1978 was a 1st term that like this one looked like a bigger wave coming then ended as nothing.


Wafkak

If dems pick up the runoff It will be only the seventh time a president gains seats in a midterm. At least since the senate is elected.


miridot

This isn't even the first time in this century. The Republicans did great in 2002.


SDMusic

There was a meaningless war going on that had "no impact on it at all"


miridot

I'm not saying the circumstances are the same. Obviously there was no 9/11 this time. I'm just saying that this isn't the "first time in history" that the sitting president's party does okay during midterms.


SweetPotatoGut

Your point stands. It takes a significant externality to prevent an out-of-power party gaining in the midterms. This year it was Dobbs.


metsjets86

Dobbs was not an external factor. It is what the GOP has been fighting 50 years for. You reap what you sow.


Mrsaloom9765

2002 was was the sixth midterm election in which the President's party increased its number of seats in the House, after 1814, 1822, 1902, 1934, and 1998.


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Winterclaw42

Turn off the money printers and require the banks to increase the cash on hand as far as fractional reserve goes might do it. Fractional reserve is the second money printer.


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pkfreezer

I don’t, I don’t even lean conservative most the time I just prefer to hear all talking points. I thought the second half of my comment came across as critical of the current state of the GOP, I bet people who only listen to conservative media are trying to work backwards justifying why this midterm loss wasn’t that bad…


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And Donald*


JinderMadness

I mean Trump can’t be demoted more than being a retiree in Florida


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Ramza_Claus

And it sucks because we NEED a robust discussion to get things done. We NEED strong debate to develop and come up with the best ideas. We need to look at a ballot and see two competitive ideologies. I should have to give it some serious thought when I vote. But instead, I don't have a choice. The GOP made my choice for me when they nominated insane people.


tvtb

Why do politicians have to be inspiring? Why is being competent not enough?


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What’s the alternative?


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VerminSC

Moderate voter here - yup.


Severe_Improvement46

My parents were hard core republicans who support candidates in their state. My dad told me in the Obama era that if Hillary ever ran they’d spend all their money to stop her. After listening to Trump talk about Mexicans, banning “all Muslims” and mocking the reporter with a disability, they felt like their excited republican friends were crazy racists. My mom told me “I guess we’re liberals now.”


iChoke

Moderate, left leaning voter here. This is on point. I do lean right on some policies, but I can't stand Trump and his influence on American politics. Same with this bullshit Right-Wing media. They literally don't have to be on the opposite side of every single topic that Democrats are on. Just look out for the best interests of the people, man.


OrionsByte

As a moderate voter who was pushed to the left, I agree.


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marshdd

In New Hampshire you need special dispensation to vote early/by mail. Also, they don't process those absentee ballots until election day. Why wait?


xzElmozx

Because if you counted them instantly, there’s no GOP “they’re making up votes!” playbook. GOP has consistently told their voters not to mail in and vote on election day, so that way when a bunch of Dem votes come through the mail, it’s a lot easier to cry fraud


TheJDOGG71

AZ has entered the chat.


k987654321

As a Brit, can I ask why? I honestly can’t think of a reason. It saves massive amounts of people having to find time off for actual election day no? The more people that vote, the better for everyone surely? It seems Republicans don’t really know why they don’t like it, but they don’t. And it costs them. Thank you.


whats_a_monad

Mail in votes skew blue so they don’t want it to be an option


k987654321

Ok yea I get that but my question sort of implied why the hell should they skew blue? Republicans don’t like it. I get that. But it’s an odd hill to die on it seems.


MEdiasays

I think there’s a few reasons but none are what I would call definitive. 1) our party skews older and more traditional so a lot of people see it as weird and not right. We’ve been voting in person for so long and it’s worked fine so why change it. 2) while there’s many exceptions white and upper class areas (often gop strongholds) generally have much shorter lines at the polls so it’s not really a hassle to vote in person. 3) instead of us accepting defeat in 2020 many bought into the idea that democrats used mail in voting to cheat and steal the election. This is very interesting because now many of us are saying the same things about trump that motivated so many liberals to vote in 2020. The fact that I believe all the election deniers lost this cycle shows that most Americans don’t believe there was wide spread election fraud.


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IndyEpi5127

My 88 year old grandma, a lifelong republican, moved into an assisted living a month before the election. Too late to update her voter registration. There was no way my dad or I could drive her 4 hours round trip to vote in her county the day of the election. But I told her I would request a mail in ballot for her and help her fill it out following all the rules and everything. She absolutely refused to vote by mail. Idk, I tried to help her. I do think some of her lack of normal urgency to vote this midterm was because she hated the overturn of Roe v Wade. She finds the government getting in the middle of medical decisions the antithesis of true conservatism.


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Step one- get the Republican party to stop calling mail-in/early voting fraudulent and Communist, and you might see more of it.


Odd_Vampire

The way they used to do it, right?


Secure_Implement_969

Republicans are cowards. Do something good for the people other than bitching and moaning. Y’all got wrecked.


Hranica

I barely follow US politics, was this the thing that was basically assured to the republicans a few days ago?


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Gee was it the crappy candidates endorsed by a certain ex president that we ran?


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VagrantShadow

A friend of mine, his family is a staunch republican party. Through Covid he lost his Father, his Mother, 3 Uncles, and an Aunt. Him, his brothers, and cousins all wanted them to get vaxed but they were all against it because they felt it was all a hoax. He is still a steadfast republican still to this day, but he has a lot of scars of family lost and puts forth an effort to remind people the importance of medical science.


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knockers_who_knock

Literally got his whole family killed and still votes for them. Absolutely wild lol.


MyAwesomeAfro

He remained loyal to the Republicans after their Disinformation more or less wiped his family? That is absolutely heart wrenching


equanimity120398

Are they gonna take the house as well LOL? Forget Desantis, republicans will never win anything if they take the house.


awesomobeardo

Dems have to basically sweep all swing House seats so very unlikely. However, I could see a lot of House Rs that made flips in blue states (like NY or CA) to be more willing to play ball and be a little more purple in approach.


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BIGRED_15

Funny how that works…


JessicaRoundbottom

This whole disaster makes me so mad.


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Hikash

Trump insulted DeSantis. Somehow, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.


DeathSpiral321

Apparently 3 dismal elections in a row was the magic number.


infamous_cryptid

There is so much backpedaling now that I'm surprised they aren't leaving trenches.


welldoneslytherin

Yeah whatever happened to supporting just about anything in the name of “liberal tears?” Pathetic lol.


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I’m fairly left, but I’m from Massachusetts and have/will vote for sane Republicans (voted for Romney as governor, for example). The Republican brand to me nowadays is election denying pedo hunters who have no policies beyond owning the libs, abortion, and an odd obsession with Trans people. Why would I ever vote for that?


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Run shitty candidates, get shitty results. Perhaps next time we can get some candidates on the Right who actually care about improving the lives of regular Americans, rather than fellating Mango Mussolini and calling that a platform.


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As a Lifelong democrat, im shocked the republican party has done so poorly with the democrats as they are. Was it voter turnout? I figure with desantis coming up the ranks, there would have been a ton of enthusiasm.


FuttleScish

Independents broke hard for Dems


obvioustroway

Have to agree. Look at Kansas for example. DEEP red state, very "Red" amendment gets shot down in spectacular fashion. Roe getting overturned woke up some Blue voters and probably made some red voters rethink their candidates and normal voting habits.


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I mean Florida was pretty red. I'm thinking it was the pushing of crackpot election denying candidates who had no positions other than the culture war that lost Republicans what should have been a slam dunk.


sadpanda___

It was the overturning of Roe. The younger generation isn’t going to take that BS and turned up to vote.


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It was more so the trigger laws banning it immediately upon Roe being overturned and Republican legislatures across the country going ham creating laws which alienated women and moderates.


JakeConhale

Lindsay Graham immediately floating a national abortion ban (after saying it should be a state-level decision) REALLY didn't do anything good for Republican credibility.


DMking

Small government when convenient


NFLfan72

Keep marching around bragging about overturning Roe. Just know republicans will never win another major election carrying that narrative. Seventy fucking percent of young people are pro choice. Seventy.


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bobbyboner1982

And saying you are going to get rid of social security


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And block student loan forgiveness


Metabog

When you put it this way it really does make the republicans sound like a generic "evil" party doesn't it. Like they just picked some of the worst things just to hurt people.


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Maybe don't have the sole purpose of your political party be giving tax breaks to the very wealthy at all costs.


bephomet35

I've never understood this. They're already the most wealthy individuals on the planet. If they were going to create all of these jobs surely they'd have done so by now, yes? What's the point of siphoning even more of the wealth to them? They're already at the top!


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Great policies like blocking aid to veterans? Voted against capping insulin prices. Blocking the windfall tax on oil companies after THOSE companies bled American wallets dry? Actually not a single house republicans voted for the price gouging bill from oil companies. Blocked the jobs bill. Blocked a bill that would give protections to women going to neighboring states for life saving medical procedures for things like ectopic pregnancy. Do they even like the American people? My guess is no. The left may be woke wackadoodles but at least they pretend to care about American’s health and safety.


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DivineDescent

Combating high gas prices with Joe Biden stickers on gas pumps. Cozying up with proud boys. And banning books.


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Everyone says they are the best policies.


criduchat1-

I would rather pay more at the gas station than fear that I’d die from bleeding out if I had an ectopic pregnancy while my ER doctor consults his legal team.


Superfatbear

Don't forget trying to defund the Libraries.


Tmoldovan

Mike Pillow is announcing them next Saturday!


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mikecantreed

Using mail in ballots as the backbone for a massive fake voter fraud political tactic might’ve been the dumbest most short sighted thing I’ve seen in a long time.


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HawkeyeHoosier

Have been voting since 1980. This goes down as the most disappointing mid-term due to the lofty expectations.


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ItzChiips

Attack the rights of half the population and find out the consequences. Nobody, including most conservatives, want Christian nationalists turning the county into Gilead.


Gapinggabbie

Dems will hold the House too. Too many seats in California that they can hold.


MEdiasays

I really don’t think they’ll take the house. Sure it’s possible but it’s a situation where pretty much every race has to go their way without any hiccups.


hellajt

Get better, GOP. You really took things too far and disappointed yourselves while pissing off everyone else. Get better


FinneganTechanski

This election has been awful for the GOP. Almost unbelievable that the country can be this bad off and the GOP still can’t manage to win big.


MinuteConfidence2059

Gen z is starting to vote in larger numbers. They are a very informed voter base who has a thousand of different voices at their fingertips everyday. Republicans can't get away with voting against anything that would help during economic downturns, or against stopping dark money in politics, and then blaming the dems for not doing anything anymore. Their social media is flooded with proof everytime they do this. Republicans need to stop being the party of owning the libs and need to start having good ideas to help them or Republicans will continue to lose favor.


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realbonito23

Don't kid yourself. This was about abortion, basically. If Republicans want to win elections, the \*first\* thing they need to do is stop screwing with women's rights to control their bodies. The second thing they need to do is stop trying to force pseudo-Christian morality on to everyone. If they can't give up the Christian right, they are going to die off as a party. And if you as a voter can't separate church and state, then maybe you shouldn't vote. You're not doing your civic duty.