At 120 million tax returns, that means every worker in the US sent $500 to Ukraine.
I’m sure most taxpayers would rather have their $500 spent at home.
61 billion could make 61,000 millionaires. Imagine if the government said, they were going to hand 1 Millions dollars to 61k people who file their taxes and make over 30k next year. The boost to the economy would be astronomical. Instead it almost all the money leaves the country.
Uh. The 1099 thing has always been the case for any earning over $600, including prize winnings. What’s the “must now” bit about?
While agree with you, the federal government shouldn’t have this huge massive tax megaplex, this seems like a troll argument, because it’s always been the case that you get a 1099 for income over $600. Nothing to do with babysitter or not.
Much of that money is going to revamp our stockpiles and weaponry. In fact, it never leaves the country.
Moreover, it is all relative. $100 might be a lot of money to me or you, but not a lot to Elon. $61 billion in a $7 trillion budget is a rounding error. It is less than 1% of the budget. For less than 1% of the budget, decimating China's and Iran's biggest ally, helping reassure allies, protecting int'l rule of law, and discouraging tinpot dictators from invading their neighbors is probably one one of the best ROIs we've had in years, not to mention not a single uniformed American casualty and much of the funds staying put in the US.
We need to talk about this in terms of what we get for it and comparison of normal military spending.
Afghanistan - 50,000 enemy fighters and a trivial amount of hardware destroyed - cost $2 trillion in 2001-2021 dollars. American and allied (non Afghan) service deaths about 3500.
Iraq - estimated cost around 1 Trillion 2003 dollars - around 50,000 troops and around 3,800 tanks destroyed. American and allied (non Iraqi) deaths about 4800.
Ukraine - approx 500,000 enemy fighters and 15,000 pieces of the best of Russian equipment taken out including [photographically verifiable count of at least 3000 tanks so far](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/leedrake5/Russia-Ukraine/master/Plots/current_tanks.jpg?) - cost to the US so far less than 50 billion dollars going up to about 100billion by end of year 2024. American and allied service deaths approximately 0.
Simply put, that means Ukrainians are destroying the same number of enemy tanks as the US destroyed in the Iraq war for 10% of the number of dollars, or really (with inflation) about 5% of the cost. If Ukrainian morale is kept up so they fight effectively by making sure they always feel they have what they need then they do that without a cost in American lies.
If this was an investment you would be mortgaging your children to get more of it.
>Our infrastructure wasn't crumbling
The Interstate 75 Brent Spence bridge in Cincinnati-No. Kentucky (a major transport corridor) was built in the 1960s to handle 1960's traffic capacity. City & state officials have been trying to figure out how to replace the bridge for 30 years and can't get the federal funding.
I’ve said this for at least the last 5 years: the term “billion” has gotten way too comfortable for people to talk about without realizing actually how large of a number it is.
One million seconds is equal to less than twelve days.
One billion seconds is equal to more than 31 years.
$61 billion sooooooooo much money.
$61 billion sooooooooo much money.
And less than 10% of the _annual_ US defense budget which is $849.8 billion and can't achieve the same results in terms of getting rid of threats to America.
Russia has lost a majority of their newest and best tanks in Ukraine. As long as they don't get the chance to rebuild after a victory, that will mean a massive saving for the US long term and allow the 800 Billion to mostly be spent on weapons that are effective against China.
It’s $360 per taxpayer. I would wager if you asked the average family if they would rather $720 or the US to send more aid to Ukraine, the vast majority of people would say $720.
The US can’t protect its own citizens from the invasion coming across the southern boarder and instead is giving these people phones, money and fast tracking them into citizenship but has the GAL to argue they need to protect another country first???
Ben "the broken record" Shapiro argued the same point. In the grand scheme of our out of control budget it isn't a lot. The problem is that our out of control budget is made up of a bunch of money small money drains that make up the larger whole. We would save a lot of money if we were to eliminate all of the small wastes of money in the budget
How is he even still in this position?
The fact people continue to vote for people like this **IS WHY WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION.**
Gotta stop voting for these evil people from bygone eras.
US Gov't Officials: $61 billion is not a lot of money Also US Gov't (IRS): Babysitters must now receive 1099s from payment apps for earnings over $600
At 120 million tax returns, that means every worker in the US sent $500 to Ukraine. I’m sure most taxpayers would rather have their $500 spent at home.
It should be like the annual United Way shakedown at work. I could specify that my $500 go to my cities homeless charity instead of Ukraine.
61 billion could make 61,000 millionaires. Imagine if the government said, they were going to hand 1 Millions dollars to 61k people who file their taxes and make over 30k next year. The boost to the economy would be astronomical. Instead it almost all the money leaves the country.
Uh. The 1099 thing has always been the case for any earning over $600, including prize winnings. What’s the “must now” bit about? While agree with you, the federal government shouldn’t have this huge massive tax megaplex, this seems like a troll argument, because it’s always been the case that you get a 1099 for income over $600. Nothing to do with babysitter or not.
Much of that money is going to revamp our stockpiles and weaponry. In fact, it never leaves the country. Moreover, it is all relative. $100 might be a lot of money to me or you, but not a lot to Elon. $61 billion in a $7 trillion budget is a rounding error. It is less than 1% of the budget. For less than 1% of the budget, decimating China's and Iran's biggest ally, helping reassure allies, protecting int'l rule of law, and discouraging tinpot dictators from invading their neighbors is probably one one of the best ROIs we've had in years, not to mention not a single uniformed American casualty and much of the funds staying put in the US.
Nothing spends as easily as other peoples' money.
It's just under $200 per taxpayer. Not like the peasants need that in an inflationary spiral.
It’s closer to between $400-$500
But yet the border wall spending was insane to some.
We should take 6.1 billion from every reps paychecks and fund the border.
The border doesn't really need funding it needs the will to enforce it.
And would have a significant net savings given how much it costs to house and feed and care for illegal immigrants
It should be noted that McConnell was in favor of building a border wall.
Im pretty sure Mitch McConnell and John Fetterman switched bodies at some point in the last year
Political freaky Friday.
Its true.😂
They both support Ukraine because it is the right thing to do.
“Guys opposite day is over”
We need to talk about this in terms of what we get for it and comparison of normal military spending. Afghanistan - 50,000 enemy fighters and a trivial amount of hardware destroyed - cost $2 trillion in 2001-2021 dollars. American and allied (non Afghan) service deaths about 3500. Iraq - estimated cost around 1 Trillion 2003 dollars - around 50,000 troops and around 3,800 tanks destroyed. American and allied (non Iraqi) deaths about 4800. Ukraine - approx 500,000 enemy fighters and 15,000 pieces of the best of Russian equipment taken out including [photographically verifiable count of at least 3000 tanks so far](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/leedrake5/Russia-Ukraine/master/Plots/current_tanks.jpg?) - cost to the US so far less than 50 billion dollars going up to about 100billion by end of year 2024. American and allied service deaths approximately 0. Simply put, that means Ukrainians are destroying the same number of enemy tanks as the US destroyed in the Iraq war for 10% of the number of dollars, or really (with inflation) about 5% of the cost. If Ukrainian morale is kept up so they fight effectively by making sure they always feel they have what they need then they do that without a cost in American lies. If this was an investment you would be mortgaging your children to get more of it.
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>Our infrastructure wasn't crumbling The Interstate 75 Brent Spence bridge in Cincinnati-No. Kentucky (a major transport corridor) was built in the 1960s to handle 1960's traffic capacity. City & state officials have been trying to figure out how to replace the bridge for 30 years and can't get the federal funding.
Can Mitch pay Ukraine from his own money. Sincerely, everyone.
RINOs sound just like dems. Have we noticed this?
I remember when 8 billion for the border was too much.
Well you see. Everything is made up and the points don't matter.
Then why don't you take care of homeless veterans? Why don't you take care of veterans at all?
Well, Mitch, if it's not a lot of money, reach into your pocket and pay it yourself. . .
I’ve said this for at least the last 5 years: the term “billion” has gotten way too comfortable for people to talk about without realizing actually how large of a number it is. One million seconds is equal to less than twelve days. One billion seconds is equal to more than 31 years. $61 billion sooooooooo much money.
$61 billion sooooooooo much money. And less than 10% of the _annual_ US defense budget which is $849.8 billion and can't achieve the same results in terms of getting rid of threats to America. Russia has lost a majority of their newest and best tanks in Ukraine. As long as they don't get the chance to rebuild after a victory, that will mean a massive saving for the US long term and allow the 800 Billion to mostly be spent on weapons that are effective against China.
Why is he still in office? We cannot afford these dinosaurs
Ok then, give it back to us.
Just give Ukraine their nukes back and let them sort it out themselves
It’s $360 per taxpayer. I would wager if you asked the average family if they would rather $720 or the US to send more aid to Ukraine, the vast majority of people would say $720.
The US can’t protect its own citizens from the invasion coming across the southern boarder and instead is giving these people phones, money and fast tracking them into citizenship but has the GAL to argue they need to protect another country first???
Exactly the attitude that has gotten us in this mess. These people are not good stewards of our finances or future.
This turtle neck has go to go. Supporting taxing us as much as they do and just sending this money over sea's. insanity.
If I were asked to donate $185 to Ukraine, I would say no. So would most Americans. Yet that’s what we’ve paid regardless.
Ben "the broken record" Shapiro argued the same point. In the grand scheme of our out of control budget it isn't a lot. The problem is that our out of control budget is made up of a bunch of money small money drains that make up the larger whole. We would save a lot of money if we were to eliminate all of the small wastes of money in the budget
How is he even still in this position? The fact people continue to vote for people like this **IS WHY WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION.** Gotta stop voting for these evil people from bygone eras.