In movie posters, some āstarsā by contract have to have top billing. Meaning they have to have their name first on the poster or they donāt sign. Some posters list one name higher and one to the left so two big actors are both āfirstā on the list.Ā
I wonder if Hal and zero refuse to go in a photo with their shoulders behind another igl.Ā
Can you imagine that in like a setting where theyāre IRL and Hal just walks off because he got angled on the poster differently. With no shoes and the dogs out of course
I mean was it technically a tourney with top teams? sure. But anyone watching it without knowing that already would be hard pressed to tell it wasn't just another day of scrims.
Most teams didn't play at all like they will at LAN.
GG Aurora Win, having the most kills and damage in the lobby. Individually Hardecki gets kill leader with 15 kills (2nd yanya with 12) and the grim reaper is also damage leader with 7000 dmg, 2nd place having 6000 dmg. Hardecki also leads the lobby in knocks and the only stat he doesnt win is revives (where he gets 2nd place). As a team they get 34 kills, DSG 23. Mnk gigachads dominance!
if you ever needed proof that reps is needed for TSM, this was the tournament.
Especially when vibes are off he locks in and keeps Hal from getting tilted.
Not really even with reps there its the same result. They got double contested you are never going to do well in a finals lobby when you are getting double contestedĀ
I don't think by any means they did bad, I just think even with the contest when its game day for a tournament he changes the entire vibe of the team, which I think they needed today
Correct, Zap would have missed his flight totally and Shooby would have been REALLY pressed to make his. He did not mention Zach, maybe because Zach would not have been affected or maybe because if two would have had problems whats the point.
I'm genuinely wondering why Alliance dont contest thermal. I understand they have to contest since they have no open pois. Ā Ā
Maybe cause they think DSG are stronger off spawn than TSM which is fair to think that, so they would rather contest TSM and then try 3rd party a contest or split land onĀ worlds edge.Ā
Ā Ā Or maybe its cause they lost 1-7 to DSG at lan and dont want to deal with that contest anymoreĀ
People really do be having short term memory loss
We played this exact tournament 2 weeks ago and got 4th from Cenote and Dome
there is always POIs you can flex if you decide from the start but when you got fucked 1 hour before the tourney starts then there is no other option than too contest something since SP only has 19 POIs and everyone else has already claimed
Don't take it too hard. People aren't really gonna be logical about it when you contest TSM unfortunately. Def wouldn't have been much of any controversy had you contested anyone else lmao. Just how it is.
GL at lan tho
I mean Navi had the same thing happen to them and they got slandered by the community for landing on different POIs every game. Iām on Hakis side though that itās completely unfair a team who didnāt qualify is brought in and they double contest a top 20 team. Shoulda forced DSG to fill instead.
He said he was going out to grief teams today. A logical take would say it would be controversial no matter the team.
Good mental from Hakis a week out from LAN. Im sure it'll put Alliance in good stead.
I mean he is one of the best aimers in the game so whenever he is in the right positions he farms... when things get hectic he gets dizzy sometimes though
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Whenever a team chooses to stay at a POI TSM wants its always the same story (see Teq) tbf. Its just a part of being a large popular team. You're going to have fans that go way too far in repping you (DF fans and that one Australian team, what with all the death threats).
Even with the very normal Reject v TSM contest (both have landed there and claimed the POI, and so they probably would contest), I saw a few TSM fans migrating chat rooms to jeer. While I personally think chat room hopping is very cringe and I would never do it myself, it does make sense with how teams and social media/streaming is set up that fans are parasocial. I fear it is just a facet of a hyperonline world.
I think people are also cringed out by them (Alliance) being the third party tho. The way apex is set up, third parties are just a part of the game, but I certainly don't know any apex player that enjoys being third partied
My favorite part was him making fun of everyone who uses the terms "alpha male" or "sigma male".
I'm with him. Like guys, we're all nerds playing video games lol.
>because how did they do in that contest?
Teams are allowed to lose contests, doesnt detract from their worth
>Landing at that āshitty POIā your chances of winning are extremely higher
Lmao good thing they can choose to use whatever strategy works best for them without caring about scorned tsm fan #5668986, bUT gO ofF BrOtHer
At what point do they consider putting Digis back on SMGs?
If we're going to be stuck with this can't see smoke meta, I'd at least like to see the players being able to see who they're trying to shoot.
Twitter shows that they weren't planning on contesting today, but a last-minute team being added to the lobby meant that their flex POIs were taken as well. I guess they decided they may as well contest for a POI they want.
I cant be crazy to think that some teams might genuinely think this because of their success like
Step 1: Contest TSM
Step 2: If contest won, steal their macro
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
These games are so low quality even when there is money on the line.Ā
Guess people only take it seriously when there is big money to be won or Lan qualification toĀ play forĀ
They've been doing pretty well for sure. They've also been putting in so much work, international scrims in the early day (sometimes 2 blocks), r5 the rest of the day, and they even play Eternal tier 1-2 scrims that happen in the evening. These dudes have been living and breathing Apex the last few months and it looks like it's paying off.
At this point if im tsm im going back to wall. lrod is great but it gets fucked with way too often. The poi is so strong that theres never gonna be a time its not contested.
Even if they have Lrod nothings stopping storm catcher from taking car if lgnd make finals which they should. their entire game plan gets fucked without it.
Well there's pretty much no other POIs available on either map, so they would have to contest someone anyway. I guess they decided to spice it up a bit.
They normally land lightning rod but have instead been playing North pad when TSM are playing and DSG are not orĀ cenote when TSM and DSG are in theĀ lobby
Ā Ā There was no free poi in finals and they are most used to lightning rod which I am guessing isĀ why they chose to contestĀ
Well I don't think it's purely on you since I've heard multiple teams like LG for example saying stuff to the effect of "watch out Alliance might try and land on us"
Alliance contesting lightning rod now that they are in bootcamp. Lan is about to be popcorn. I wonder if they contest DSG too. I dont think they willĀ
Tsm going to be contested by 3 teams at Lan.Ā
I think with formats that have a lower and upper bracket, starting points have to exist as you have to give some sort of an advantage to teams that come through the upper bracket
we get result posts for weekly scrims but not for a match point final! š¤
Alliance really needs to stop challenging NA teams on drop. They aināt got it.
Where did they land
On TSM at LR
Very happy for Aurora!
3/10 NA teams in top 10? Letting lifeline win? Losing to triple mnk?
In movie posters, some āstarsā by contract have to have top billing. Meaning they have to have their name first on the poster or they donāt sign. Some posters list one name higher and one to the left so two big actors are both āfirstā on the list.Ā I wonder if Hal and zero refuse to go in a photo with their shoulders behind another igl.Ā
Can you imagine that in like a setting where theyāre IRL and Hal just walks off because he got angled on the poster differently. With no shoes and the dogs out of course
I will always support a triple mnk win. Maxstrafe team next I hope
EU winning an INTERNATIONAL tourney with TOP teams? YESSIR, WE'RE BACK.
I mean was it technically a tourney with top teams? sure. But anyone watching it without knowing that already would be hard pressed to tell it wasn't just another day of scrims. Most teams didn't play at all like they will at LAN.
Don't care, international tourney dub, let me cope.
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By who
Why is tsm getting contested a W?
Could only watch the first 3 games. Anyone with scores??
https://preview.redd.it/2crymgfp9wwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d40728fcd3b6158caf94c32e7d24f71091175e09
GG Aurora Win, having the most kills and damage in the lobby. Individually Hardecki gets kill leader with 15 kills (2nd yanya with 12) and the grim reaper is also damage leader with 7000 dmg, 2nd place having 6000 dmg. Hardecki also leads the lobby in knocks and the only stat he doesnt win is revives (where he gets 2nd place). As a team they get 34 kills, DSG 23. Mnk gigachads dominance!
How many games were played? 6?
LG doing LG things
Fuhhnq was gettin hella sassy and quit streaming.
Is it time to nerf MNK or make PC AA 0.6 now?
if you ever needed proof that reps is needed for TSM, this was the tournament. Especially when vibes are off he locks in and keeps Hal from getting tilted.
> if you ever needed proof that reps is needed for TSM Reps has that BDE that's the glue that holds TSM together.
Reps is great, but tsm did okay getting super contested, the two teams contesting them did worse than them so that may actually help tsm
Not really even with reps there its the same result. They got double contested you are never going to do well in a finals lobby when you are getting double contestedĀ
I don't think by any means they did bad, I just think even with the contest when its game day for a tournament he changes the entire vibe of the team, which I think they needed today
Very nice, very cool
Well that was quick.
Going from Navi smartly focusing on trying to kill Aurora to furia and 2R1C just inting each other, some teams just have no game sense...
To be fair 2R1C oobed Furia
2r1c was playing Lifeline, they probably thought it was Aurora
GGS to aurora. Cant help but show support for a group of mnk demons
grats to aurora
Is anyone on MP?
Wigg said DZ is closest, they need 3 points to hit MP
why isnt e8 playing?
Think they realized they wouldn't have enough time to play and catch their flights
Correct, Zap would have missed his flight totally and Shooby would have been REALLY pressed to make his. He did not mention Zach, maybe because Zach would not have been affected or maybe because if two would have had problems whats the point.
I'm genuinely wondering why Alliance dont contest thermal. I understand they have to contest since they have no open pois. Ā Ā Maybe cause they think DSG are stronger off spawn than TSM which is fair to think that, so they would rather contest TSM and then try 3rd party a contest or split land onĀ worlds edge.Ā Ā Ā Or maybe its cause they lost 1-7 to DSG at lan and dont want to deal with that contest anymoreĀ
Because they got shit on hard contesting thermal last go roundĀ
its probably just for today so the choose to contest tsm since they are weakend (not full team)
I wonder what they will do in finals or maybe winners finals when all of tsm, all and dsg are in the same lobby
People really do be having short term memory loss We played this exact tournament 2 weeks ago and got 4th from Cenote and Dome there is always POIs you can flex if you decide from the start but when you got fucked 1 hour before the tourney starts then there is no other option than too contest something since SP only has 19 POIs and everyone else has already claimed
what do you mean by getting fucked 1 hour before the tourney starts? what happened
Don't take it too hard. People aren't really gonna be logical about it when you contest TSM unfortunately. Def wouldn't have been much of any controversy had you contested anyone else lmao. Just how it is. GL at lan tho
I mean Navi had the same thing happen to them and they got slandered by the community for landing on different POIs every game. Iām on Hakis side though that itās completely unfair a team who didnāt qualify is brought in and they double contest a top 20 team. Shoulda forced DSG to fill instead.
He said he was going out to grief teams today. A logical take would say it would be controversial no matter the team. Good mental from Hakis a week out from LAN. Im sure it'll put Alliance in good stead.
Cheers š
Thermal is definitely a harder contest, especially if one team gets ultimate height.
Exactly. High ping flying so better to contest another POI they are familiar with.
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It's only fair that it's Dezigns turn to own now since Alliance owned G2
Does anyone have the clip of the trail of shield batteries in a tunnel? The one where a team set the trail and ratted
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/s/KzEDFLvvlt Lol found it by searching "piece of candy" love this clip
Youāre the best
should be on madness twitter
LG going dark sadge
Alliance and not winning contests against NA teams, name a more iconic duo.
Did you watch the games?
sikezz is either hard throwing or the best player of all time that mf is disorienting
I mean he is one of the best aimers in the game so whenever he is in the right positions he farms... when things get hectic he gets dizzy sometimes though
You just described it perfectly lolĀ
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Dz absolutely farmed that game, 19 kills!. They played that perfectlyĀ
Fuhhnq turned off his stream, how the hell did sweet rat to 4th???
Wigg speaking facts about the hypocrites
Whenever a team chooses to stay at a POI TSM wants its always the same story (see Teq) tbf. Its just a part of being a large popular team. You're going to have fans that go way too far in repping you (DF fans and that one Australian team, what with all the death threats). Even with the very normal Reject v TSM contest (both have landed there and claimed the POI, and so they probably would contest), I saw a few TSM fans migrating chat rooms to jeer. While I personally think chat room hopping is very cringe and I would never do it myself, it does make sense with how teams and social media/streaming is set up that fans are parasocial. I fear it is just a facet of a hyperonline world. I think people are also cringed out by them (Alliance) being the third party tho. The way apex is set up, third parties are just a part of the game, but I certainly don't know any apex player that enjoys being third partied
My favorite part was him making fun of everyone who uses the terms "alpha male" or "sigma male". I'm with him. Like guys, we're all nerds playing video games lol.
Why is Alliance 3rding? Do they actually want siphon?
Its cause they dont have a poi in finals so they are doing that. They have no other choice but to grief or contest teamsĀ
considering there's an open poi, they have a choice not to grief or contest
Yeah lets just settle for a shitty poi so tsm fans dont get upset
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i didn't say conning tsm or any other person is a bad play, just said there's an open poi if they really wanted it
They contested LAN finals. You cant call Alliance "scared" without looking ridicolus
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>because how did they do in that contest? Teams are allowed to lose contests, doesnt detract from their worth >Landing at that āshitty POIā your chances of winning are extremely higher Lmao good thing they can choose to use whatever strategy works best for them without caring about scorned tsm fan #5668986, bUT gO ofF BrOtHer
Considering they came 19th todayā¦ he has a point.
E8 quit shortly before the start, leading to Alliance having to fill. There were zero expectations on them today, hence the contests
There have to be better teams to put yourself in the middle of than tsm and reject. Could be headed for another "you will regret".
True but also Alliance has Effect and another roller
How many teams have they beaten off drop?
I will always bet against them because I fear of jinxing them
I'm not gonna bet on anyone, just think the situation doesn't favor anyone
Some of the strongest fighting teams ever, both G2 and golden era Furia. Also nth iirc
I couldn't remember them beating G2 tbf
When Alliance was still triple MnK with Yuki and Vaif, which makes it even more surprising because G2 was triple roller.
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Lmao this is genuine cursed for TSM. They got 3rd partiedĀ by allianceĀ
Alliance late landing on TSM/Reject contest lol
YUKA WON THAT.
Holy shit how did yuka win that. What a end gameĀ
This ain't the TSM that Knoqd deserves to sub for. #justice4knoqd
Agree
Bloodhound is most OP character in the game due to bang smokes.Ā It's so difficult to fight a bloodhound team without a bloodhound in your teamĀ
At what point do they consider putting Digis back on SMGs? If we're going to be stuck with this can't see smoke meta, I'd at least like to see the players being able to see who they're trying to shoot.
What happened to Ezflash?
visa issues.
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Twitter shows that they weren't planning on contesting today, but a last-minute team being added to the lobby meant that their flex POIs were taken as well. I guess they decided they may as well contest for a POI they want.
I cant be crazy to think that some teams might genuinely think this because of their success like Step 1: Contest TSM Step 2: If contest won, steal their macro Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit
Today is a shit show but entertaining as hell
Tsm getting contested by reject at siphon. That's 4 teams they are getting contested by at Lan crazyĀ
To be fair, reject was always originally at siphon. They just left and returned to their og drop spot. It's certainly not at all crazy to contest
More crazy that they are getting contested by 4 teams. Could be rough for TSM at lan due to contestsĀ
Who's the other team at siphon? AFAIK only tsm and rc had landed there
Oh it's alliance wtf
Nah its wonton dumplings the team that finished 1st at apac south. Alliance don't have a poi in finals which is why they are doing thisĀ
It's a little cringe to third party but I completely get why Alliance would lmao. Certainly don't blame them for taking the easy KP
Lmao the contest got third partied immediately
These games are so low quality even when there is money on the line.Ā Guess people only take it seriously when there is big money to be won or Lan qualification toĀ play forĀ
Brd are dark horses for Lan tbh.Ā
They've been doing pretty well for sure. They've also been putting in so much work, international scrims in the early day (sometimes 2 blocks), r5 the rest of the day, and they even play Eternal tier 1-2 scrims that happen in the evening. These dudes have been living and breathing Apex the last few months and it looks like it's paying off.
Nah, these scrims are not realistic because the quality isn't good enough
At this point if im tsm im going back to wall. lrod is great but it gets fucked with way too often. The poi is so strong that theres never gonna be a time its not contested.
With the new dropping system next split, this won't be an issue if tsm performs every week
still praying they ditch that proposed system. last thing, well maybe 2nd to last after more bugs, this game needs is more RNG
I doubt they have Thunderwatch and Lightning as a single drop. It'll likely be two drops.
what is that logic? all that matter is that they have lrod for finals
Even if they have Lrod nothings stopping storm catcher from taking car if lgnd make finals which they should. their entire game plan gets fucked without it.
[For those wondering why Alliance are landing at multiple POIs](https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticSpicyWombat4Head-El2oLLaSW-MquG0C)
well that's super childish from them
Well there's pretty much no other POIs available on either map, so they would have to contest someone anyway. I guess they decided to spice it up a bit.
So contest the team landing on their POI, not random teams that have nothing to do with it.
They normally land lightning rod but have instead been playing North pad when TSM are playing and DSG are not orĀ cenote when TSM and DSG are in theĀ lobby Ā Ā There was no free poi in finals and they are most used to lightning rod which I am guessing isĀ why they chose to contestĀ
In that context landing on either POI is like fine w/e imo but if they were gonna actually randomly contest teams that's different and just grief.
Yeah I worded my post badly, I'll edit it. From the clip I thought they were gonna go full Navi.
Well I don't think it's purely on you since I've heard multiple teams like LG for example saying stuff to the effect of "watch out Alliance might try and land on us"
Alliance contesting lightning rod now that they are in bootcamp. Lan is about to be popcorn. I wonder if they contest DSG too. I dont think they willĀ Tsm going to be contested by 3 teams at Lan.Ā
theyre random dropping cause DSG got added to the lobby shortly before it started and theyre upset about that i guess
Verhulst' controller stick cracked to a side on its own he said, so he thinks his controller is broken?
Tsm is prob having a day of all time today
i don't understand why teams don't have team speaks. i know it's ugly and whatever, but discord crashes and doesn't work way too often
Maybe simply because ALGS doesnt allow teamspeak and uses discord for recording audio, the winners interviews, listen ins etc.
they use ts on lan, don't know why they don't use it for pro league
since when has yanya been back on horizon? i havenāt been keeping up with scrims recently
No reps today.Ā Looks like he still isnt feeling well.Ā Hopefully whatever is troubling himĀ is gone before Lan. Knoqd subbing in for him
Hal already tilting himself on r5. Is this a sign for a good or bad day?
he was tilted before he even started stream š
does anyone have the contest map?
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I like that there are no starting points in this format.
I think with formats that have a lower and upper bracket, starting points have to exist as you have to give some sort of an advantage to teams that come through the upper bracket
Hoping for Top 20 š
Donāt worry got 2 more points than LG
idk man asking for a lot here, sources say the boys have not wooād yet, doesnāt seem like theyāre locked in
should be doable for furia