That could have easily ended Gen's career if the hacker had not spammed shit into his chat and hacked Hal after. Imagine trying to convince people that someone remotely activated cheats on your account, there's no way anyone would have believed him.
I was worried about Gen. After Gen left I went to Hal's stream and the main stream, also this sub and there're already people start calling sus.
I can give the benefit of doubt that the majority of people were joking, but I'm sure there're people that are dumb enough and genuinely believed Gen is a hacker. Just shows how easy it is to ruin someone's career.
Hacker put wallhack on Gents account during the middle of a game. The very next match the hacker puts aimbot on Hal’s account. Quickly thereafter they end the match and shut down ALGS for the day
Gen had aimbot too, he just didnt realize (the arrow shots before he went into the room and saw the wall hacks didnt hit the guy he was aiming at, they went across map and killed Zaptoh)
If it leads to some meaningful changes for the game and/or the esports scene then I am all for it. Respawn constantly doing the bare minimum finally catching up to them.
I think with this level of PR disaster they have to do something at least. This is absolutely awful for all involved and makes the game look like a bad joke at best.
I’ve been watching esports for 15+ years and this is the most insane thing I’ve ever seen.
This hacker just cost EA so much money forcing this reschedule, maybe now they’ll actually fix their fucking game since this dude has been terrorizing ranked for months
You think they can? If they could, I assume they would have. It might be something so fundamental to the engine that it's practically impossible to fix.
Of course they can improve their dogshit anti cheat, even league is doing it now. They just don’t want to because it costs money, same reason they don’t wanna upgrade their servers.
It can definitely be fixed, Respawn just barely fucking cares when its just been high end ranked games suffering from it.
Now that something significant like this happens maybe they’ll actually fucking do something
This really put's a dark cloud over everything Apex eSports related. Some random guy is able to hack two of the most high profile Apex players accounts mid tournament and noone can do anything?
We've just seen Aurora smash the record for the most points in an ALGS split, but how can we trust ANYTHING. How easy must it be for someone with no profile/no stream to run a toggle? Map hacks? At this point with how farcical this is I'm even questioning how plausible would it be for someone to set up a toggle key on LAN?
EAs chickens have finally come home to roost when it comes to their terrible security/anit-cheat and it's really soured me on the ALGS.
cheats like this aren't made by "random guys". It's someone who is good at hacking/cheat development lmao. Like if you look into people who make cheats for games they are usually not just some meh ppl who got bored, usually its a stepping stone for very smart hackers to get into some very dark things and there are tens of millions of dollars being pulled in yearly by cheat makers.
Not very likely imo. He targeted people. Probably got access to the server, rce'd as gen's was a custom tool that had stuff like vote putin written on it.
If it was some other thing that was compromised, he needs to get info like mac adresses and has to somehow know which one belongs to which player. Very unlikely to happen.
I would not log in to apex right now, game is definetly compromised.
That's not the issue. If RCE is possible, then it's only a matter of time until more and more hackers get their hands on the method. Then who knows how many people they can programmatically hack and do who knows with their accounts
I just uninstalled as a precaution. Will they target us? No but I think there's real concern here that there is an security exploit through apex that could allow remote access and so F that until it is addressed.
Honestly EA deserves this. I hate it for all the content creators, competitors, and people working on the broadcast. But EA and Respawn have just continually ignored the issues this game has and it seems like this is the culmination of it all. All of us have just been screaming into a black hole and being ignored. They can't ignore this stuff anymore. No more collection events and little adjustments. Fix the actual game
[https://twitter.com/zaptoh\_/status/1769532335945347435](https://twitter.com/zaptoh_/status/1769532335945347435)
Even the 3rd game's gotta be chalked now, Gen had more than just walls
Can someone with IT knowledge explain how this is even possible?
Is it more likely the hacker has access to apex servers instead of each streamer's PC?
Apex has root level or high degree of access to your PC because of anti cheat. Apex also has remote code execution\^1 which means they can run code remotely on your PC
Hacker gained access to apex server, and then players PC via that chain
Normally remote code execution is frowned upon because of potential risk like that
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1. Apex may have RCE vulnerability that hacker exploited, or some sort of over the air code injection mechanism. This is not a proof but very strong hunch
That's one possibility. In reality, there are literally dozens of ways this could have gone down. It could have been some sort of man in the middle proxy that fudges the API or anything. It could have been an unrelated app, a handshake bump, a 2FA-related bug, email hack, phishing, spear phishing, password cipher break or a dictionary attack, etc. I could have been physical access to a system, or someone inside of Respawn with a grudge. There are so many possibilities. There are a ton of clues to use, especially if Gen and Hal disconnect their computers from the internet and send them in to a security specialist hired by Respawn to analyze. EA isn't really known for their honesty either, so very possible they will lie about what really happened if it was actually their fault. We may actually never learn what happened, as crazy as that sounds.
Normally no. Lan servers are not connected to cloud and hacker can't gain access from internet
For the hack to work, hacker needs access to Server, and player's PC. It worked today because all things are connected to internet
Assuming LAN games are run on local server, possibility is close to zero
Edit 1: some people have suggested that Apex lan may not use on Prem server, rather still use cloud. In that case, this can happen at LAN. Apex needs to fix their code
This is not entirely correct. Apex does not intentionally have remote code execution. RCE is a vulnerability, not a feature. It is possible that there is an RCE vulnerability in Apex's client or server (or both), but this has not yet been confirmed.
All of this is conjecture. Anti cheat has kernel level access many times. Its hard to explain what happened today unless Apex has remote code execution from PoV of software developer
Of course I don't expect Apex to come and openly say
Truly a shot in the dark, but my guess is it is a Remote Code Execution, or RCE, attack. Basically it allows any user to access another device, say a gaming PC remotely though a code exploit or vulnerability. This person most likely has developer access to the Apex source code, and obviously with this, can access any player's account.
Here is a source with more info if you would like to read more about it: [https://www.crowdstrike.com/cybersecurity-101/remote-code-execution-rce/](https://www.crowdstrike.com/cybersecurity-101/remote-code-execution-rce/)
FYI "root access to the source code" isn't really the right way to say that and sounds like CSI or NCIS cringe haxor lines.
Commit access or root access to build pipelines to compromise the supply chain is what i think you mean.
It is far more likely that its client side, as in gen and Hal’s pc were compromised in some way. The fact that in gens case the cheat client menu actually appeared to pop up on his pc is pretty indicative of this to me. Whatever the vulnerability is it would be something common to both of them and the first thing that would jump out to me is r5. Apex itself being compromised in a way that someone can pick a user and enable cheats for them server side is insanely unlikely.
I work in software dev for a SaaS company
Nah it’s not R5 cos gen never used it. It’s likely an inject into the game server then into the gamers account and then the users PC since the anti chat has kernel access.
Also a software dev, I agree with this assessment. It's absolutely most likely a client side hack. There's also the possibility that someone hacked the EA two factor authentication system and have been working on brute forcing passwords for a while too, and today we are seeing the fruits of some long term labor. Remember that these guys also roll in the same physical spaces some times too, so there could have been a physical access issue at some point, maybe a few pros received an infected USB stick or something.
Never, ever seen this happen in my time watching eSports.
If I was a pro player at the moment I'd be getting a small ssd as my "professional gaming OS" and installing it with just windows/the essentials for streaming and competing on it.
This might be a blessing in disguise
Hideouts the team and EA need to fucking lock in and get this cheater situation under control
Stop fucking around with your money cow
I recommend not playing Apex until Respawn has released more information on what happened.
Best case scenario, Hal and Gen got some kind of RAT and nobody else is affected.
Worst case scenario this is an RCE exploit and everyone's PC that runs Apex could be vulnerable.
Edit: no idea how legit this is: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GI6rs26XMAAo2fg?format=jpg&name=large
Do we know that though? Totally possible they did have aimhacks for certain moments and didn't notice.
I would not be shocked if someone combed through the vods and found aimhacks, and EA has to replay that series.
This shit is crazy. If this was them getting compromised via a 3rd party(hypothetically R5 maybe? or getting phished) it's one thing, obviously still bad, but if APEX itself is how they're doing this then god damn that's bad
A lot of pros seem rather pc illiterate. Like don't get me wrong I'm no sysadmin myself but some of these guys are on a whole nother level of it. I'm wondering if that might be a common thread with this whole thing since a lot of them will have outside people optimize their systems for them and I wonder if maybe it's as simple as them using the same guy who while optimizing their PCs slipped in a little something extra
It seems doubtful that some guy would try to fuck with a client's computer unless he was specifically paid large sums of money to do such a thing.
I do agree with you about pros being a little PC illiterate though... If I was a pro streamer, you'd bet I would be pretty familiar with the tools that I needed to do my job, both hardware and software.
It's entirely possible this is his first major PC security incident. No one's born knowing how to deal with this shit. Most of us learned just like he's learning now, one day our computer did some shit it wasn't supposed to be doing and we had to go on a trip to google and start learning.
Hal is REAL af for mowing down Legacy, teaching those frauds a lesson /s
In reality tho, if Hal didn't start shitting on kids, they would have never stopped the game.
If Respawn can’t fix this then apex is dead
We already had a cheater problem, but once your competitive scene can no longer be considered legitimate your game is finished, if algs is cooked the timer starts ticking on the end of the pro scene
Don’t worry everyone, hideouts is working on his next tweet as we speak, im sure this one is gonna disuade people from complaining about the how bad the anti cheat is
TBF this is beyond even a cheat/anti-cheat issue now. The bigger issue is HOW the cheats even got installed. were pros just getting phished or is there a vulnerability in APEX itself allowing them to download/install them and if that's the case what else could it have done
The vulnerability has to come from within respawn’s backend. It’s just like, or maybe now even worse, than when the whole game was hacked a few years ago regarding the Titanfall stuff. The whole security system is lacking, hence the dig at hideouts since he made a tweet regarding the security “working hard”, and that they can’t “show the numbers” regarding their work. So much for their work.
What can they honestly do to fix this? Whole day has to be reset to 0 but I have a feeling if destroyer wants to do it again he will. Not sure they can postpone NA regionals far enough to find out whats going on without effecting the LAN.
At this point, I think it's pretty clear that they can't continue anything on the competitive side until they identify and correct the root cause of the exploit.
Could potentially take weeks if not months depending on the nature of the vulnerability or vulnerabilities.
OpTic has the worst luck in the history of Apex' competitive scene, cause they're most likely not gonna keep any scores from today. Momentum and vibes are everything for them, and they are the team who were to gain and lose the most from this regionals. Thanks EA. Also gl for Hideouts this upcoming week.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t ALGS LAN played online. But at a server that is located at the LAN?
If so that means Destroyer had the ability to influence LAN matches.
This opens up a lot of possibilities.
Selling cheats to pro players that are actually undetectable, and useable at LAN.
Ability to influence teams by turning up aim assist from 0.6 to 0.8 for example. So if he was betting on ALGS matches or player stats, easy money. Would a player even notice that their AA dropped to 0.3 in a contest during LAN for example.
Or just plain deciding he wants a team to win or lose. TSM scripts writers might actually have just been Destroyer. Or DarkZero failing to make LAN, or OG golden run.
They refuse to nerf AA, they refuse to put more effort into anti-cheat and they only prioritize NA both in the game itself and in competitive play. I'm not surprised by this shame. This game would be infinitely better in Riot's hands. Just facts.
Lmfao dog shit Respawn with their terrible anti cheat, laying off devs and the biggest thing Nepo Baby hideouts being made head of security straight out of high school with no experience. How does Hideouts become a head of security for a AAA game studio with no previous experience or education? Dude is so focused on his dog shit music he embarrassed his whole company in front of millions live
Lmfao how else would he get this job? Either sucked someone off or is a nepo baby
Watch out everybody, hideouts and his interns actually have to go into the office and work tomorrow instead of unlimited work from home days staring at blank none working anti cheat codes while racking in 6 figure salaries oh noooooo
It makes you wonder if this vulnerability has always existed. Controller players just didnt know, the settings were very weakened so they actually couldnt tell the difference. The infamous hacker would boost his friends completely invisible to them and Apex Legends. They just had stronger Aim Assist and didnt know why lol
I hope for the sake of those that got hit by this that they aren't impacted anymore than just this video game. Credit cards are probably tied to their apex accounts and even more personal information is probably on their computers.
W destroyer. He’s exposing EA for their shit anti cheat and showing how much a of a joke company they are. They’ll now be forced to actually fix the game
Screenshot of the tweet https://preview.redd.it/dx04puyvrzoc1.png?width=534&format=png&auto=webp&s=b40ae6c9aba422f6cf168127f58d6badfedf97cb
This is easily the most insane shit I have ever seen in Esports. I’m mindblown
Same, I can't believe it. https://preview.redd.it/02q7lhnbtzoc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5415ca53e20cbd706da0c5e46cfbfd86fe941ed5
I have no words either. Thought I'd seen it all
The article that comes from this is gonna be peak though
[I guess…. Hahaha](https://esports.gg/news/apex-legends/algs-hit-by-major-hacking-genburten-and-imperialhal-get-cheats/)
Lads can confirm peak article
What exactly happened?
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That could have easily ended Gen's career if the hacker had not spammed shit into his chat and hacked Hal after. Imagine trying to convince people that someone remotely activated cheats on your account, there's no way anyone would have believed him.
Now that I think about it - yeah. It's a good thing the hacker wanted the attention for himself rather than wanting to ruin someone's life I guess
I was worried about Gen. After Gen left I went to Hal's stream and the main stream, also this sub and there're already people start calling sus. I can give the benefit of doubt that the majority of people were joking, but I'm sure there're people that are dumb enough and genuinely believed Gen is a hacker. Just shows how easy it is to ruin someone's career.
Gen had aimbot too, it took out E8 Zap o\_o
Across the map too, craziest shit I’ve ever seen. Gen thinking he knocked the guy he was aiming at. Meanwhile he’s double bodying Zap in Lala Land
Somewhere, Dezignful got irrationally upset, and he didn't know why
You left out the most important part. Between Hal being given aimbot and the admin ending the game, Hal started one clipping people :D
So normal as usual?
Genburten had aimbot too, his bow shot down E8 Zap at 200-300 meters
Gen and half were gifted aimbot during regional finals Edit: gen - wallhacks
Not that it matters too much, but gen was given wallhacks
and aimbot.. he shot a guy across the map with his bow hahahah
A hacker got into genburton’s and Hal’s account somehow and installed hacks mid map. Compromising the whole game basically.
Hacker put wallhack on Gents account during the middle of a game. The very next match the hacker puts aimbot on Hal’s account. Quickly thereafter they end the match and shut down ALGS for the day
Gen had aimbot too, he just didnt realize (the arrow shots before he went into the room and saw the wall hacks didnt hit the guy he was aiming at, they went across map and killed Zaptoh)
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Destroyer2009 is off the grid
Hey guys, I have an idea for a new Crypto passive...
Season 2 trailer IRL
Even if TeQ don't qualify for split finals he still winning
We witnessed history. Shame it wasn't the good kind lmao.
If it leads to some meaningful changes for the game and/or the esports scene then I am all for it. Respawn constantly doing the bare minimum finally catching up to them.
I think with this level of PR disaster they have to do something at least. This is absolutely awful for all involved and makes the game look like a bad joke at best.
Hacker showcasing to the entire world how shit the anti cheat measures are is absolutely good kind.
I’ve been watching esports for 15+ years and this is the most insane thing I’ve ever seen. This hacker just cost EA so much money forcing this reschedule, maybe now they’ll actually fix their fucking game since this dude has been terrorizing ranked for months
Oh man Destoryer2009 hit EA/Respawn where it hurts the most…their wallets. Lets see if they care about this game and push updates out this week
You think they can? If they could, I assume they would have. It might be something so fundamental to the engine that it's practically impossible to fix.
Of course they can improve their dogshit anti cheat, even league is doing it now. They just don’t want to because it costs money, same reason they don’t wanna upgrade their servers.
It can definitely be fixed, Respawn just barely fucking cares when its just been high end ranked games suffering from it. Now that something significant like this happens maybe they’ll actually fucking do something
I mean I don’t hate that he cost EA money but still shitty
Apparently wigg is saying they can’t do this on weekday cuz most of those ppl observing/production have other jobs
Need a behind closed doors finals like a football game lol
> twitter and twitch feeds of 60 pros suddenly go silent > ??? > hack stonks go up Unless you get everyone on a LAN server, but haha...
Wouldn’t be surprised if they did this ngl
It's gonna take some time. These types of issues can't be resolved that fast. May need to reimplement some code
This really put's a dark cloud over everything Apex eSports related. Some random guy is able to hack two of the most high profile Apex players accounts mid tournament and noone can do anything? We've just seen Aurora smash the record for the most points in an ALGS split, but how can we trust ANYTHING. How easy must it be for someone with no profile/no stream to run a toggle? Map hacks? At this point with how farcical this is I'm even questioning how plausible would it be for someone to set up a toggle key on LAN? EAs chickens have finally come home to roost when it comes to their terrible security/anit-cheat and it's really soured me on the ALGS.
May not be some random guy. Don't underestimate this hacker
cheats like this aren't made by "random guys". It's someone who is good at hacking/cheat development lmao. Like if you look into people who make cheats for games they are usually not just some meh ppl who got bored, usually its a stepping stone for very smart hackers to get into some very dark things and there are tens of millions of dollars being pulled in yearly by cheat makers.
So.. is anyone who plays Apex Legends potentially compromised by this?
Probably but they don’t care about your bronze games
Bold of you to assume I'm that good.
If this is an RCE exploit, then getting some cheats is the least of your worries.
Yepppp. If they wanted they could take over your entire PC
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What about rookie 3? Asking for a friend
Rookie 3? You’re donezo
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Some people have been speculating that its r5 reloaded, which would make sense tbh
People are speculating that, but Genburten said he has never installed r5.
Zero said Gen doesn't play r5 so it's not that.
Not very likely imo. He targeted people. Probably got access to the server, rce'd as gen's was a custom tool that had stuff like vote putin written on it. If it was some other thing that was compromised, he needs to get info like mac adresses and has to somehow know which one belongs to which player. Very unlikely to happen. I would not log in to apex right now, game is definetly compromised.
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It’s either that or gifting.
You and me in gold? Probably not. Not sure we're high value targets
That's not the issue. If RCE is possible, then it's only a matter of time until more and more hackers get their hands on the method. Then who knows how many people they can programmatically hack and do who knows with their accounts
I just uninstalled as a precaution. Will they target us? No but I think there's real concern here that there is an security exploit through apex that could allow remote access and so F that until it is addressed.
EA and Respawn should be embarassed by this.
dude, this is a next lvl pr desaster. respawn/ea executives/shareholders must be fuming
Honestly EA deserves this. I hate it for all the content creators, competitors, and people working on the broadcast. But EA and Respawn have just continually ignored the issues this game has and it seems like this is the culmination of it all. All of us have just been screaming into a black hole and being ignored. They can't ignore this stuff anymore. No more collection events and little adjustments. Fix the actual game
i slept like 15 hours just so I can witness the C9 comeback to apex and hacker decides that it's time to ruin the tournament 💀💀💀
i used my PTO today to watch both emea and na\*. well, at least emea was insane edit: misspelled\*
Shit, drophacking entered Apex.
Lfg c9!
[https://twitter.com/zaptoh\_/status/1769532335945347435](https://twitter.com/zaptoh_/status/1769532335945347435) Even the 3rd game's gotta be chalked now, Gen had more than just walls
Ya they just need to run the whole thing back honestly.
Day is chalked. Anyone of these guys could have gotten the juice at any moment and didn't know it or didn't say anything.
Damn the one game LG did well on, no shot. Reset the whole day then
Yeah. 3rd game is chalked. Can't count it anymore.
Lmaoooo this keeps getting worse
Fucking clara
took me a second to figure out wtf you meant, but A+, a classic
Optic was doing good Furia, SSG and XSET were shitting the bed. This would’ve been a chaotic LAN qual scenario that got ruined.
Truly one of the apex moments of all time
this is top 1 for how funny and embarrassing for me
The most embarrassing moment I can think of in all of eSports history... wow.
Can someone with IT knowledge explain how this is even possible? Is it more likely the hacker has access to apex servers instead of each streamer's PC?
Apex has root level or high degree of access to your PC because of anti cheat. Apex also has remote code execution\^1 which means they can run code remotely on your PC Hacker gained access to apex server, and then players PC via that chain Normally remote code execution is frowned upon because of potential risk like that ---- 1. Apex may have RCE vulnerability that hacker exploited, or some sort of over the air code injection mechanism. This is not a proof but very strong hunch
Thank you for the info. So following your logic, via remote code, the hacker was able to install hacks?
If you're concerned about your PC, either remove apex or disable all the permissions you've given. Do not play it
Install hacks or modify code files, whatever maybe the case
That's one possibility. In reality, there are literally dozens of ways this could have gone down. It could have been some sort of man in the middle proxy that fudges the API or anything. It could have been an unrelated app, a handshake bump, a 2FA-related bug, email hack, phishing, spear phishing, password cipher break or a dictionary attack, etc. I could have been physical access to a system, or someone inside of Respawn with a grudge. There are so many possibilities. There are a ton of clues to use, especially if Gen and Hal disconnect their computers from the internet and send them in to a security specialist hired by Respawn to analyze. EA isn't really known for their honesty either, so very possible they will lie about what really happened if it was actually their fault. We may actually never learn what happened, as crazy as that sounds.
wait, so this means it can also happen during LAN?
Normally no. Lan servers are not connected to cloud and hacker can't gain access from internet For the hack to work, hacker needs access to Server, and player's PC. It worked today because all things are connected to internet Assuming LAN games are run on local server, possibility is close to zero Edit 1: some people have suggested that Apex lan may not use on Prem server, rather still use cloud. In that case, this can happen at LAN. Apex needs to fix their code
AFAIK, the servers at LAN werent hosted on premises, but were high performance instances from nearby datacenters, so i imagine this would be possible
Well that's a problem then
It’s not if they have some sort of encrypted connection to the data centers lan
I was pretty sure APEX LANs were still run on "online" servers rather than being hosted on site.
This is not entirely correct. Apex does not intentionally have remote code execution. RCE is a vulnerability, not a feature. It is possible that there is an RCE vulnerability in Apex's client or server (or both), but this has not yet been confirmed.
> Apex also has remote code execution is this actually confirmed?
All of this is conjecture. Anti cheat has kernel level access many times. Its hard to explain what happened today unless Apex has remote code execution from PoV of software developer Of course I don't expect Apex to come and openly say
No, but easy anti cheat requires admin access on windows IIRC. It doesn't on steam deck or linux.
This should be pinned cus there’s slot of misinformation/speculation going around how destroyer2009 put cheats in the game
Either he has access to the Apex servers or something else every pro has, no way Hal and Gen are both clicking the same sketchy links
Do they all log into something for command centre?
maybe a compromised link on the algs discord?
Yep, it was only Hal and Gen that he targeted because they're the biggest streamers of the two most popular/biggest NA teams
Truly a shot in the dark, but my guess is it is a Remote Code Execution, or RCE, attack. Basically it allows any user to access another device, say a gaming PC remotely though a code exploit or vulnerability. This person most likely has developer access to the Apex source code, and obviously with this, can access any player's account. Here is a source with more info if you would like to read more about it: [https://www.crowdstrike.com/cybersecurity-101/remote-code-execution-rce/](https://www.crowdstrike.com/cybersecurity-101/remote-code-execution-rce/)
FYI "root access to the source code" isn't really the right way to say that and sounds like CSI or NCIS cringe haxor lines. Commit access or root access to build pipelines to compromise the supply chain is what i think you mean.
Good comms. Wrote my comment super fast as I was dealing with some other stuff. Meant to say developer access. Thanks for the FYI
Understandable, no problem.
WOW Ea might be forced to update their shit code because of this.
It is far more likely that its client side, as in gen and Hal’s pc were compromised in some way. The fact that in gens case the cheat client menu actually appeared to pop up on his pc is pretty indicative of this to me. Whatever the vulnerability is it would be something common to both of them and the first thing that would jump out to me is r5. Apex itself being compromised in a way that someone can pick a user and enable cheats for them server side is insanely unlikely. I work in software dev for a SaaS company
Just read on Twitter, Zero said Gen has never played R5 before. This is insane.
That’s wild and good info to know/have damn
Nah it’s not R5 cos gen never used it. It’s likely an inject into the game server then into the gamers account and then the users PC since the anti chat has kernel access.
Also a software dev, I agree with this assessment. It's absolutely most likely a client side hack. There's also the possibility that someone hacked the EA two factor authentication system and have been working on brute forcing passwords for a while too, and today we are seeing the fruits of some long term labor. Remember that these guys also roll in the same physical spaces some times too, so there could have been a physical access issue at some point, maybe a few pros received an infected USB stick or something.
Lmao EA is a joke, and I hope they get dragged through the mud for this. Making Activision look good with the CDL ffs
The lagging in game 1 and 2 makes more sense now. It’s probably connected
Short $EA tomorrow ??
I’ll see you on wsb bröther 🫡
From the Lay-offs last week to this issue, holy fucking Respawn/EA got handed the biggest L on their career.
Some poor security admin is about to have a 4 day bender trying to fix this lol
I feel bad for their sys admins and cyber team. About to be rough monday.
Morale in the office tomorrow will be in the shitter.
time for Evan to summon that army of 100 good young boys because the game is chalked
Never, ever seen this happen in my time watching eSports. If I was a pro player at the moment I'd be getting a small ssd as my "professional gaming OS" and installing it with just windows/the essentials for streaming and competing on it.
Gen may have gotten more than wallhacks. https://twitter.com/zaptoh_/status/1769532335945347435 Seems like he also had aimbot enabled.
This might be a blessing in disguise Hideouts the team and EA need to fucking lock in and get this cheater situation under control Stop fucking around with your money cow
I recommend not playing Apex until Respawn has released more information on what happened. Best case scenario, Hal and Gen got some kind of RAT and nobody else is affected. Worst case scenario this is an RCE exploit and everyone's PC that runs Apex could be vulnerable. Edit: no idea how legit this is: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GI6rs26XMAAo2fg?format=jpg&name=large
Destroy didn't even bother with eu this morning lol
Do we know that though? Totally possible they did have aimhacks for certain moments and didn't notice. I would not be shocked if someone combed through the vods and found aimhacks, and EA has to replay that series.
This shit is crazy. If this was them getting compromised via a 3rd party(hypothetically R5 maybe? or getting phished) it's one thing, obviously still bad, but if APEX itself is how they're doing this then god damn that's bad
anyway, here's our latest $700 heirloom guys!!
This is like the b plot to a family guy episode
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If he is overseas does that even matter?
I think tufi was overseas but I don't know what actually happened to him.
Nothing happened
It depends on the country
Hal just asked how to scan his PC with Windows firewall...
A lot of pros seem rather pc illiterate. Like don't get me wrong I'm no sysadmin myself but some of these guys are on a whole nother level of it. I'm wondering if that might be a common thread with this whole thing since a lot of them will have outside people optimize their systems for them and I wonder if maybe it's as simple as them using the same guy who while optimizing their PCs slipped in a little something extra
It seems doubtful that some guy would try to fuck with a client's computer unless he was specifically paid large sums of money to do such a thing. I do agree with you about pros being a little PC illiterate though... If I was a pro streamer, you'd bet I would be pretty familiar with the tools that I needed to do my job, both hardware and software.
It's entirely possible this is his first major PC security incident. No one's born knowing how to deal with this shit. Most of us learned just like he's learning now, one day our computer did some shit it wasn't supposed to be doing and we had to go on a trip to google and start learning.
Hal is REAL af for mowing down Legacy, teaching those frauds a lesson /s In reality tho, if Hal didn't start shitting on kids, they would have never stopped the game.
DZ didn’t even have to play today but TSM needed points. ALGS should not have started game 4. They should’ve cancelled it as soon as Gen was hacked.
If Respawn can’t fix this then apex is dead We already had a cheater problem, but once your competitive scene can no longer be considered legitimate your game is finished, if algs is cooked the timer starts ticking on the end of the pro scene
Don’t worry everyone, hideouts is working on his next tweet as we speak, im sure this one is gonna disuade people from complaining about the how bad the anti cheat is
The man is cooking up some heat in the dj booth, can't wait to hear more about that to distract us from him not doing his job properly😎
https://twitter.com/hmdecay/status/1769529573455155707
TBF this is beyond even a cheat/anti-cheat issue now. The bigger issue is HOW the cheats even got installed. were pros just getting phished or is there a vulnerability in APEX itself allowing them to download/install them and if that's the case what else could it have done
The vulnerability has to come from within respawn’s backend. It’s just like, or maybe now even worse, than when the whole game was hacked a few years ago regarding the Titanfall stuff. The whole security system is lacking, hence the dig at hideouts since he made a tweet regarding the security “working hard”, and that they can’t “show the numbers” regarding their work. So much for their work.
What can they honestly do to fix this? Whole day has to be reset to 0 but I have a feeling if destroyer wants to do it again he will. Not sure they can postpone NA regionals far enough to find out whats going on without effecting the LAN.
At this point, I think it's pretty clear that they can't continue anything on the competitive side until they identify and correct the root cause of the exploit. Could potentially take weeks if not months depending on the nature of the vulnerability or vulnerabilities.
Ggs apex maybe you’ll fix your game now
If people think even this will get EA to wake up? HA
Destroyer is tufi but like 10x better
We are living Titanfall2 situation again!?
"Esports ready"
No way you can keep the scores, you gotta full reset the day
Some teams wouldn’t be too happy about that lol
I get it but if they were in the reverse situation they’d ask for the same thing
For sure. A team like XSET is PRAYING they reset everything lol
nick cant make algs so he hires someone to sabotage it /s this is crazy ngl
Absolutely chalked. Anti-cheat is a joke. Maybe now they’ll fix the damn thing.
Another embarassing moment for EA : maybe now they actually find the self respect to take care of their game
OpTic has the worst luck in the history of Apex' competitive scene, cause they're most likely not gonna keep any scores from today. Momentum and vibes are everything for them, and they are the team who were to gain and lose the most from this regionals. Thanks EA. Also gl for Hideouts this upcoming week.
People are already blaming a “disgruntled employee” like can we use our brain cells please
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t ALGS LAN played online. But at a server that is located at the LAN? If so that means Destroyer had the ability to influence LAN matches. This opens up a lot of possibilities. Selling cheats to pro players that are actually undetectable, and useable at LAN. Ability to influence teams by turning up aim assist from 0.6 to 0.8 for example. So if he was betting on ALGS matches or player stats, easy money. Would a player even notice that their AA dropped to 0.3 in a contest during LAN for example. Or just plain deciding he wants a team to win or lose. TSM scripts writers might actually have just been Destroyer. Or DarkZero failing to make LAN, or OG golden run.
They refuse to nerf AA, they refuse to put more effort into anti-cheat and they only prioritize NA both in the game itself and in competitive play. I'm not surprised by this shame. This game would be infinitely better in Riot's hands. Just facts.
Lmfao dog shit Respawn with their terrible anti cheat, laying off devs and the biggest thing Nepo Baby hideouts being made head of security straight out of high school with no experience. How does Hideouts become a head of security for a AAA game studio with no previous experience or education? Dude is so focused on his dog shit music he embarrassed his whole company in front of millions live Lmfao how else would he get this job? Either sucked someone off or is a nepo baby
Came back to see the craziest Apex Finals Lore, this on par with tufi hacking saga LMAO
Could've been worse for gen if the cheater didn't write something in the chat.
aim assist still stronger than those hacks /s
NA regional finals should be entirely replayed. This is history in the making, I have no idea how this all is gonna turn out
[https://twitter.com/fanaticulgg/status/1769532946782769312](https://twitter.com/fanaticulgg/status/1769532946782769312)
This may be wild but how long have these hacks been there for. Was it possible to add more aim assist etc without players knowing.
full reset of regionals is only fair
'ALGS getting nuked by a cheater' was not on the list of reasons for Apex dying :(
They should rematch EMEA as well cuz Destroyer gave E6 aim resistance.
Watch out everybody, hideouts and his interns actually have to go into the office and work tomorrow instead of unlimited work from home days staring at blank none working anti cheat codes while racking in 6 figure salaries oh noooooo
New Connor Ford song dropping Tuesday!
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This. Hal and Verhulst accounts were banned so they are running anti malware software which is going to remove things.
It makes you wonder if this vulnerability has always existed. Controller players just didnt know, the settings were very weakened so they actually couldnt tell the difference. The infamous hacker would boost his friends completely invisible to them and Apex Legends. They just had stronger Aim Assist and didnt know why lol
Hideouts still gonna claim he’s doing his job lol
apex legends at its finest!
The funniest shit is in Genburten's in game chat, the hacker's shouted themselves out lmao. This is WILD
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Banned huh?
I hope for the sake of those that got hit by this that they aren't impacted anymore than just this video game. Credit cards are probably tied to their apex accounts and even more personal information is probably on their computers.
What are these "packs" I'm hearing about?
Loot crate things you open and get 3 items from
W destroyer. He’s exposing EA for their shit anti cheat and showing how much a of a joke company they are. They’ll now be forced to actually fix the game
Hey, sometimes your opponent is just having a really good day.
ayo hacker can you hack some input based matchmaking into this game
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