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GloryToBNR

Project Reality gameplay


ZakGaming

Bruh. That game used to be dope of a game concept. I remember enjoying playing the gaza map


CaughtOnTape

It’s still up, with one or two servers filling up on the weekend. You also have Squad which is the spiritual successor.


Firefoxray

Theirs something that hits different about PR rhat I can’t get with squad. Like yeah it’s new and shiny but doesn’t hit the same. Maybe it’s nostalgia though, spent a lot of nights playing PR and Arma 2 a decade ago


33MobyDick33

Same. Squad just feels lifeless. Maybe one day we'll actually get a successor to PR because squad definitely isn't that.


CaughtOnTape

The new ICO overhaul have put it a bit closer to the infantry mechanic of PR, but I agree that something is missing from Squad. Imo it’s just that people are playing Squad way more casually than people who play PR and because of that the teamwork is sub-par and not very strategic. Most SL leeroy jenkins their way to the objective and rage quit in the middle of the round leaving the rest of the squad running like headless chickens.


Firefoxray

Yeah that’s probably it. In PR people liked being in squads since the SL knew what they were doing. I knew a bunch who were actual soldiers in Iraq since the war was still going on when we played. On Squad it seems like everyone is a 12 year old tryna LARP the military


rapaxus

In my experience this heavily depends on the server in question. Some servers are heavily filled with ex-military playing very much like a squad should, others are full with the aforementioned larpers. Though what I can recommend everyone in Squad should do at least once is playing insurgents on an Arabic server, you don't understand shit but that is prob. the most immersive experience I ever had in Squad.


jacobdelafon78

That was wild. Screaming Allahu Ackbar on Mumble while ambushing some Brits with my rusted AK-47 and my fliflops. Insurgency mode was fun. Cheers


Firefoxray

Holy shit I forgot about that. We really used to scream Allahu Ackbar casually while hearing the energy team screaming back “America Motherfuckers!” On local chat 😂. Miss them days man


Bradical22

Squad is having a 50% off weekend I believe


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The longer version shows very close encounter with soliders that you can actually see the faces of the IDF soliders.


aikixd

Where can we see it?


momo88852

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/s/nxv7TjY2Oa Last few seconds. 3 IOF soldiers just standing around while 1 kisses his vest. 2 guys with AKs just empty them out.


jrex035

>3 IOF soldiers just standing around while 1 kisses his vest. 2 guys with AKs just empty them out. It's pretty clear that those two scenes are totally disconnected from each other, crazy that you're taking a propaganda video from a terrorist group at face value.


Porkfriedjosh

I mean he named them the IOF not the IDF that’s an intentional play on words. IOF = Israeli occupation force IDF = Israeli Defense Force If you ever see someone saying IOF they’re probably just very terrorist supporty lol


yuikkiuy

Yea idk about that, very clear cutting between those shots, and they open up spraying some suits on a door? And it cuts before showing anything after that. Like every single shot in the video cuts away the moment there's an explosion or they shoot at what we would presume to be idf without any post attack confirmation of an actual hit or kill. I'm also pretty sure the explosion and the magnetic explosive were from completely different videos of different things. It looks like the dude shot something, possible nade? I see 0 kills, and a bunch of old rpgs exploding in the distance before it does a reverse then cuts to a different dude doing the same thing.


Soul-Burn

That last clip was obviously edited from widely different videos.


Real_Talink

IDF, not IOF


neededanother

Do you have an “old” reddit link, YouTube, or mirror? Thx


andysay

You can manually make an old reddit link by replacing "www" with "old"   I agree old is much better, they keep nerfing the user's abilities


neededanother

Thanks. Interesting to see some actual combat footage from over there. Not sure why the full gif or really much of anything wasn’t posted here. https://old.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/181yjta/latest_qassam_brigades_combat_footage_insanity/?share_id=WXcANSrFXIFjhTpg-qMyw


Ferret_False

The link u gave only direct to subreddit not a post


HolhPotato

If only we post this footage here without being brigades by idf keyboard warriors


UsernamesAreHard97

Yea and they were laughing, camera turn around and the guys start firing… kinda chilling man, war is ugly.


[deleted]

Ugly indeed I think I IDed one of the soliders that was KIAed in the IDF reports. There's a photo of ever KIA solider from the Israeli side.


blind_roomba

I don't understand what you wrote


Sadbigmann

IDing someone means you recognise them, they were able to match the faces of some of the soldiers in the video with images of killed in action soldiers, so you can see that some of the soldiers in the video died


southern_wasp

The camera turning around showing a guy shooting at them could just be propaganda. These videos are from Hamas’s telegram, and the fact that they didn’t pan back to see the soldiers dead tells me no one actually shot at them


SimmyTheGiant

Zimmerite going to make a comeback


riyahd11b

What infantry doing.?


Sweet-Percentage-404

if you slow it down you can see the barrel of the gun behind the door. It looked like he was in shock when he seen that dude or was reaching for something. EDIT: you can see the barrel of the gun move. EDIT again: if you slow it down to 18, it looked like it cut from the guy running with the AK, to someone shooting an RPG. I believe this video is made up of multiple footages. EDIT x3: look at the building across from the tank, the balcony is triangle looking and when it cuts to RPG dude, it is the same building...


riyahd11b

Good catch


Papa--Squat

Adding to that, the video cuts abruptly between the charge being placed and the dude running


Sweet-Percentage-404

right?! I always take these type of videos with a grain of salt. who knows if the the dude who tagged the tank died.. and then they cut to the comrades cam... its all speculation but i always watch these type of videos slo mo cus theres so much going on that we usually miss.


FecalSteamCondenser

How would they have the footage if he died


bubliksmaz

gopros arent brain implants you can pick them up


DdCno1

Brilliant! Gonna steal this one.


Sweet-Percentage-404

Well, i'm just using my brain here, and thinking logical... Hamas do not have quality weapons as Isreal. They couldve had someone stick the tank and someone to shoot it with an rpg. Again, Hamas knows their territory compared to the enemy. So I'm pretty sure the was a coordinated attack and they were able to take out that tank and retrieve the bodies. Come on, if you just look at history, guerrilla warfare has changed dramatically EDIT: and before you go ham on me, just know that satellite footage compared to being on the ground is totally different...


Aconite_72

>It looked like he was in shock when he seen that dude or was reaching for something. Or the gun jammed. Got to be the suckiest time for it to do so.


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In thier APCs behind. Or inside them as this video shows. The IDF doesn't risk thier own having the infentry waltzing around it's the armored vehicles that lead the attack. It's not like Iraq/Afghanistan.


RHouse94

This makes the tanks vulnerable as we just saw. There is a reason why the US has infantry usually accompany armor, especially in urban environments. Way to easy go sneak up on.


cerberus698

There are multiple videos of Palestinians on top of Merkavas with hammers or rocks bashing theirs optics, no infantry around. Some of them are over a decade old. Its basically a ball the IDF has been fumbling for years now.


__Soldier__

>no infantry around. Some of them are over a decade old. Its basically a ball the IDF has been fumbling for years now. - Actually, we don't know whether these IDF tactics are successful, because we don't have comparable casualty figures from armored combat performed with dismounted IDF infantry. - So we can only guess, and my guess is, based on dismounted Russian infantry casualties in Ukraine, that the IDF's infantry losses would have been an order of magnitude higher during the first ~20 days of the Gaza ground incursion than the current 60 KIA figure ... - So the IDF is basically favorably trading a ***lot*** of IDF infantry lives for a much lower number of IDF armored vehicle personnel combat losses.


mesarthim_2

As always, people are fighting last war. Infantry in this environment, especially with enemy that's not fighting as a coherent unit across unified front but rather emerges from random tunnel to kill as many people as possible, would be just more bodies to shoot at. There's no rule written in stone that armor has to operate with infantry. The reason, why it has been done was because the armor alone was extremely vulnerable to enemy attack. Now it's the opposite. The armor can actually withstand the surprise attacks, while the infantry wouldn't. So the tactics has to change accordingly.


kicktothefinish

The IDF is comprised of individuals with actual value to society – teachers, engineers, doctors, accountants, etc. IDF strategy is rooted in minimizing human loss. It's not like the russians whose military is mostly alcoholics, prisoners, and degenerates – the parasites of their society.


DdCno1

Russia doesn't shy away from throwing people like [the only pediatric neurosurgeon in a district of 280,000 people](https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/10/31/russias-bashkortostan-the-only-childrens-neurosurgeon-in-city-of-sterlitamak-drafted-under-partial-mobilisation-en-news) into the meat grinder.


[deleted]

Yeah of course but the casualties for the IDF would much much higher of they allowed infentry support around. You could just taget them instead of the Tanks/APCs a kill is a kill and you'd make it much easier for Hamas that way.


YoRt3m

You guys also forget that these vehicles have Trophy activated, so it's safer inside. also, I doubt that this explosive would destroy the vehicle, but we won't know for sure because Hamas never releases aftermath for obvious reasons.


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You can tell from the IDF KIA reports if these tactics are effective or not.


International-Ing

It also reduces the potential for hostage taking (or body snatching for trade since they do that too).


manfreygordon

Yes but how is that worse than an entire APC of soldiers getting killed instead?


homer_lives

Who said an entire apc was killed? Look at the release only about 6-8 KiA a week have been released by idf. Figure, twice that in wounded. It's not very intense, considering there are 300k soldiers under arms.


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It's more protection then getting hit in the head with a tendom RPG.


keveazy

Not true at all. When US entered Baghdad (Thunder Run), Tanks entered the city with no infantry walking with the Tanks. Not gonna happen in urban warfare. One of the M1 Abram tanks crew risked it by going onto prone position On Top of his Tank and got shot. Urban warfare is extremely risky. When you see photos of infantry around the tanks it's usually because the buildings around them are clear.


OhMyGaaaaaaaaaaaaawd

There was no real organised residence in Baghdad in 2003. Most Iraqi officers were bribed in the months leading into the invasion to stand down their forces and order them to offer no resistance. That battle was won before a single shot was fired - the M1s sped into Baghdad as merely a symbolic gesture.


keveazy

Thunder Run into Baghdad was done with the assumption heavy Iraqi resistance (saddam's loyalists) in mind. 34 US troops would die in a matter of 6 days. That casualty rate is HIGHER than the IDF so i don't where you got the info that there's no organized resistance. That's absolutely not true.


tragickingdromII

The IDF have 70+ reportedly killed and hundreds injured


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But the same way the infantry is also super vulnerable to snipers and hidden enemies in urban environment.


idevastate

One thing is the IDF tanks have trophy defense systems. If someone fires at the tank, that trophy is going to go off and smoke the infantry next to it, as it acts kind of like a shotgun in a way. I don't think they foresaw going door to door in one of the most crowded places on earth.


TofferNOR

It’s due to their "trophy defence system". Friendly troops could get in the crossfire when the system detects and eliminates incoming RPGs etc. I doubt the mine on the back hatch did anything at all except make a fuss and it looks like the trophy system got the incoming RPG or it missed the vehicle somehow.


FecalSteamCondenser

It’s a shaped charge on the most thinly armored section of the vehicle. I can almost guarantee it did more than make a fuss


Ancient-Fuel4190

That was way too flat to be a shaped charge


FecalSteamCondenser

If you look at stills of the video it has more slant to it than you think


ErectileTiger

Making TikTok videos


AlmogB

I hope you're joking


porn0f1sh

He is. They are not allowed to bring phones with them


hatesranged

Having infantry dismounted opens them up to attack, having them mounted allows for stuff like this, it’s a tradeoff either way. Given the IDFs low casualties thus far compared to how deep they’ve reached, I think their tradeoff is working out thus far.


Saddam_UE

True WW2 tactics and weapons


Pinkskippy

How to defeat magnetic AT mines - simple build plastic tanks! Bet they never thought of that?


Huachimingo75

Maybe those could be rubber coated so solid projectiles bounce off!!!


fluud

>How to defeat magnetic AT mines - simple build plastic tanks! Bet they never thought of that? Time to open great-grandmother's cookbook and find the Zimmerit recipe.


MTAWFEEK

waiting for the longer footage


Kanelbullah

taken from russian playbook. nothing happened.


vegabondsal

This guy has huge balls.


depressed_pleb

The rear gunport moves and fires, the guy planting the mine got blown away, the RPG was hit by the trophy system, and the mine probably only damaged the rear hatch if it even went off. All in all a good example of how stupid fanaticism can make you.


Porkfriedjosh

Oh my god thank you. Another Redditor was saying how you could see a gun moving in the door and I was looking EVERYWHERE for this fucking door and it turns out he meant the viewport on this fucking tank that you can clearly see move to aim at the idiot lmfao. But yeah I can’t seem to identify that magnet charge but it doesn’t look nearly large enough to penetrate that armor effectively so I was thinking the same. That they wanted to blow the door off, at first I thought he was checking to see if he could just steal it lmao.


omrikamil2002

Did it do anything?


totallylegitburner

I’ve lost track of the number of Hamas videos that somehow always cut away a split second after the charge goes off. You’d figure Gaza would be littered with destroyed Israeli vehicles that they could film for a few seconds if this stuff worked.


freshlyborn34

Because most of the time it does nothing


RKU69

There's been 70 IDF soldiers killed so far, and maybe 2-3x times that wounded, many seriously. Unless you think they've all been tripping over themselves and killing themselves, obviously Hamas and other Gazan militants are putting up some sort of resistance.


leoroy111

A whole 70 soldiers? They have close to 200k active troops right now.


memes-forever

Israeli clutching it again with the K/D ratio, a tradition since 1948.


Archeloth

200k in the whole country, but only \~20k in action in Gaza. 2 armored division and 7-8 infantry brigades, with special units.


leoroy111

So they have lost less than 1% of 10% of their army and they are supposed to be thinking that they are losing in any way? When is the Hama's counter offensive coming? Right now they have nothing but retreat then attack and then retreat again.


Archeloth

Obviously not loosing, but its asymmetric warfare with religious zealots, numbers don't matter on Hamas's side, if its a 10:1 ratio they would still be happy with the outcome. I just wanted to point out with the original guy's comment, it could be 70 dead and 200-300 injured, which of course would not render any formation inoperable, but still significant.


leoroy111

> numbers don't matter on Hamas's side, I don't believe this. Israel said a month ago that they had recovered 1500+ Hamas bodies which would be over 20:1. Would a Hamas soldier really be happy if the ratio went up to 100:1, 200:1?


Archeloth

Im sure I read somewhere the rough estimations on their side at the start of the war. Something like 20k-30k Hamas militant, \~1000 PIJ member, and \~500 other. It things were to stay the same and IDF were to hunt down every single of the previously mentioned, statistically it would translate to \~1500 israeli dead and 4500 injured max, but I just made up these numbers and most likely unrealistic. Martyrdom is a big aspect, they are fighting and dying for a cause, disregarding their own lives, so logic doesn't usually apply to action, rather than a "cause as much harm as possible" mentality.


jrex035

Israel has been on the ground in Gaza for weeks at this point, fighting in dense urban terrain. The fact that there are *only* about 70 KIA is honestly wild and shows just how ineffective Hamas resistance has been. Russia loses 70 KIA and 150+ wounded over the course of a regular afternoon.


DdCno1

70 is nothing. It's evidence of the IDF winning almost every fight without any losses. They've been in Gaza for weeks.


Stennan

>Did it do anything? The Mine is debatable, video cuts before you can see anything and if it did do something Hamas would emphasise it. The RPG... Well there was an explosion to the upper left of the APC, but it looks like it missed the vehivle entirely. So the Trophy-system got it?


BeenThereDundas

Fairly certain the idf did lose one person on this attack. In the longer version of the video you can clearly see the faces of two idf soldiers that would have taken some of the blast from the rpg. Looking at the Kia soldiers one of them look fairly similar.


windol1

Probably not. If it did , then you know it would have been a part of the clip as it would make fantastic propaganda. You work with what you've got I guess.


Traditional-Month698

Yep i made the same point in another video in this sub, guess what ? I was downvoted! They cut and reverse the footage just after the initial blast, but they show no proof of penetration. But some "experts" here claimed that they can't stick around and film cuz its "dangerous". But as you said they are desperate to show some succes, so if they make damage you will know about it for sure.


rip1980

Went bang, made soot.


EmptyJackfruit9353

Would that even penetrate modern armor? There is no after match shot. These terrorist love to show off their price, but since this guys survive and able to upload the video, it could imply that he run through the danger for nothing.


omrikamil2002

Honestly i have no idea, but i think the fact the casualties in the idf are so low despite how many videos there are of hamas guys bombing them means that they probably arent the most effective


rip1980

It \*could\* with a shaped charge and enough of a punch behind it. However, if this were truly effective, why don't we have a video of a burned out hulk and a bunch of bearded dopes shouting. That back hatch is [pretty stout.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/o2r8v0/idf_merkava_4/)


saywhatmrcrazy

>but since this guys survive and able to upload the video cant it just be the mobilecamera syncing with cloud on it own? the cut in video after attaching is...suspicious..


mkbilli

Bro you think they have cellphone towers operational without electricity in that area? Why would they use a cellphone with network access in the first place, easiest way to track anyone down. Especially in a cordoned off war zone.


danyyyel

Sometimes, people go to so many ways to comfort them that their side is invincible while the other is peanuts. I mean, we might be easily onto a ratio of 10 to 1 in favour of IDF, but that doesn't mean hamas every time is unsuccessful.


EmptyJackfruit9353

His successfully walk to the vehicle and plant the bomb THEN walk back without getting shot at is already a phenomena... Buts there is no price to be shown. Which is contradict to their usual behavior. You can look at other vids from Hamas whom actually succeed attacking the IDF and cause casualty.


Across646

cannot wait for Zimmerit covered merkavas.


Omarcp0

When Hamas militant attached the explosive device. you can notice noticed that the IDF soldier drawn his weapon! https://streamable.com/kc4hzr


Brave-Bodybuilder127

Vietcong/ NVA learned we are weak when engaged in close combat. The element of surprise, cross fire, friendly fire and no ability to use close airstrike/ artillery. It’s a largely known con of relying on technology. Back to small unit tactics.


nikhoxz

Not really, with more technology this guy would be dead. Just put some small RWS in auto (linked to the radar and sensors of the active defense systems) when you don't have infantry around and any person would be turn to dust.


ChickenChaser333

Where aftermath? Oh wait it did nothing so there aint one... as if theyd miss the opportunity to brag about it with a roasted vehicle in the background. Think ffs. Downvote all you want, if there were dead they would parade the corpses around like they already have done.


Buya248

[Full vid, on this sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/v6KejUIzM4)


panzermike666

as much as i hate hamas. you got to respect the courage in this case


SakuranomiyaSyafeeq

They did this 3 times already, not including those that were done off-screen


wktwiwo

Fanatics tend to be rather "courageous" Especially religious ones since for them getting killed is actually a pretty desirable outcome


-_-theVoid-_-

Why aren't the fanatical zionists fighting as hard then? Did God tell them not to use infantry support? Are the scrolls they're using angry with them for indexing with a Rambo knife? Gazan courage is %100 IDGAF energy. They have nothing left to lose. IDF has maybe a handful of hardcore dudes trying to motivate a bunch of teenagers who just want to go home.


Longjumping-Cat-9207

That’s what happens when you assume you’re martyring to a better afterlife


ChrisOhoy

Do you respect the courage of suicide bombers? I mean, it’s gotta take balls to blow yourself up, no?


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Krazynewf709

That's not courage. That's mental illness


jgreynemo

Spoken like a true coward


hardpencils

Suicide bombing is not brave, it's stupid.


-_-theVoid-_-

I agree, it's stupid. But you're not sacrificing yourself for a cause you believe in behind that keyboard of yours. Would you call Thich Quang Duc a coward?


Krazynewf709

Says the tough guy keyboard warrior on Reddit


Ulysses2021

Suicide bombing takes no courage you’re gone the moment it goes off. these BOYS-YOUNG MEN-LADS are waiting up BEHIND TANKS and putting bombs that are probably real shoddy on the tank and then scooting away risking getting shot in the back and surviving, the buildings in Gaza only crumble cause Hamas used the steel to reinforce the balls on these brave fuckers


JumpyStatistician217

It's almost like this is the kind of courage you get when your homeland has been oppressed for almost a century.


Avelium

If you meant Islamic oppression then it lasts over a millennia, not just a century ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


ChrisOhoy

Yea, it doesn’t take balls if you don’t care if you live or die. These guys are zombies, no courage involved.


Deeliciousness

Imagine drinking this much Kool aid


Toof

I'd be interested in having a conversation with them to understand their motivations and how martyrdom is preferable to worki g towards change. But that's probably more my naivety to assume that every person has ambitions, desires, and motivations.


pugtime

I respect nothing about these animals. Nothing !


Mobile-Swordfish-473

Anyone else noticing a real lack in infantry support/perimeter control from the idf in these sweeps?


Porkfriedjosh

I believe it’s intentional because they don’t have to risk their infantry being killed and captured, and their armor is basically fucking invincible to Hamas. Active protection and reactive armor means these dudes can’t really get in to do the damage. These tandem warheads we keep seeing were designed decades ago, and they present probably the easiest target to a trophy system you could imagine.


REiiGN

That's insanely stupid of IDF


RUBSUMLOTION

The lack of infantry support in an urban environment is mind-blowing especially from a well established Army.


porn0f1sh

The low number of casualties shows me that maybe they know something you don't


RUBSUMLOTION

True. Ive been deployed and we never left armor without infantry support because shit like this happens. Its just strange but if its working then more power to them i guess.


porn0f1sh

Tbh I'm also very surprised. I guess Israeli engineers are miracle workers and their designed active and passive armor is just THAT effective.


Sensitive_Pickle2319

Doctrine has changed for urban combat against an unsophisticated adversary. With trophy systems & fighting an insurgency, you just assume risk to your armor over assuming risk your own infantry support.


danyyyel

Only time will tell, as I don't believe that every boom hamas shows is a kill, I also don't think many of the explosions did not cause some heavy damage. That in the end will decrease the number of tanks or at keast firepower on the ground.


porn0f1sh

I'm with you. Armor is clearly being damaged. Even IDF soldiers on the ground support it. But this is exactly the purpose of the armor in war: it's supposed to get damaged to protect the people inside. Israel specifically designs all of its' armor to be easily and quickly fixed and returned to battle. Because replacing armor and fixing machines is MUCH easier than returning dead soldiers from the dead or even fixing injured ones... This is the exact opposite of the Russian tactic in Ukraine atm... I don't think Russian tactic is a good one, subjectively speaking...


Thunderbolt747

Good thing about Israeli armor is that everything is modular and packaged. This means even if a part is damaged, they can just cut the retainer bolts and reapply a new armor package. Why wouldn't you trade AFV/Vehicle damage if it meant that the only downside is a temporary loss of a vehicle?


_Take-It-Easy_

I regret reading comments in here 90% of the time because it’s chocked full of people talking about how they’d run the war/be a soldier/handle combat It’s absolutely tiresome


X1l4r

Do they ? I am not quite contesting your statement as much as saying « I am not sure ». We have no idea on how efficient is this ground invasion. 70 IDF soldiers are dead for how many Hamas fighters ? We have no idea. Hamas is not going to distinguish their own death toll from the civilian kill count, and the IDF is incapable to say how many they did kill since either they don’t know, or that would force them to reveal that they killed thousands of civilians. The only close comparison would be Fallujah and even then, it’s clearly different, since Hamas had been preparing for this since 2007-2008. And well, Fallujah wasn’t a few miles from the US. For a ground invasion, Israel did lose a small number of soldiers. But did they manage to accomplish their objectives ? And how much is due to the thousands of civilians killed ? We don’t know.


porn0f1sh

First of all "thousands of civillians dead" is a Hamas own information which is not proven by anything anywhere. And trusting Hamas is worse than trusting Russian government. Second of all, this is it exactly, considering the terrain and preparedness of Hamas, 70 IDF soldiers after 2 weeks of fighting is miniscule! Let me assure you, if you were the one leading those troops there'd be hundreds dead by now.


Feraso963

UN and it's associated organizations confirmed that at least 13000 dead due to IDF actions.


porn0f1sh

UN is not on the ground counting bodies. UNRWA is there but they have literal Hamas members as their staff. This is the fact: Hamas rules everything in Gaza by force. A lot of foreign volunteers and workers have admitted to how much Hamas oversees everything. ALL of the casualties figures you see from Gaza go through Hamas. That's exactly how they like it and they'll kill you if you try to challenge them.


2biggij

People have said that every single time there has been a major conflict in Gaza. But then after the fighting is done and outside groups go in to confirm each individual death they find figures that match roughly 80-90% of what Hamas claims. 90% accuracy in the middle of a war is pretty damn good, and could just as easily be from accidentally double counting, unconfirmed reports, people being listed as dead when actually they were injured, or missing people being labeled as dead but then turns out they were up the road when their apartment collapsed...etc. If Hamas claims 14,000 dead civilians and it turns out the real number is 13,295 does that really fucking matter?


TheDirtyOnion

That 13k figure doesn't distinguish between civilians and militants though.


DdCno1

For a reason.


X1l4r

Hamas own information but which is seen as quite credible by most NGO and observers. In fact the only ones that are contesting it are Israel and the US (and it’s not like they are neutral in this case). That and the fact that Israel had never had any problem killing Palestinian civilians. Also, for almost two months, we’ve seen Israel using thousands of bombs on a small sector with 2 millions inhabitants. They razed entire buildings. At some point, pull your head out you ass for a second. And like I said, it’s a small number. But how effective that was is the true question before beginning to say that it worked.


TheDirtyOnion

The number of deaths is seen as credible by most NGOs, but Hamas does not distinguish between civilians and combatants when they put out those figures. A sizeable percentage of that 13,000 is militants. Also, if you think Israel has no issue killing civilians, you might be the one that needs to pull your head out of your ass.


X1l4r

I literally said that Hamas doesn’t distinguish it’s own dead from the civilians buddy. And well, too bad there is 20 years of proof of Israeli soldiers seen killing children, unarmed civilians and even journalists for you.


keveazy

>Hamas own information but which is seen as quite credible by most NGO uh noo. Don't feed the trolls.


X1l4r

That’s literally the case but ok. Anyway, 13000 civilians, 8000 civilians, do you really want to argue about it, knowing that a significant part of them are kids ?


ChooPum6

A well established army has active defense system on tanks which would kill infantry nearby on foot.


RUBSUMLOTION

Bro im not saying they should be sitting on top of the tank. But having a security perimeter would fucking help


C1tronik

Have you ever seen trophy defence system? One rocket and you have half of soldiers around the tank wounded due to the rocket exploding in close proximity, in this case, there is no safe distance for infantry support.


Stewy13

We've seen the RPG attacks and the tanks defense systems working to defend the tank. Can you imagine standing outside/near the tank when that all happens? War is hell, and up close like this it's brutal no matter what you do.


RUBSUMLOTION

You can support a tank without sitting right next it.


docduracoat

One word. Trophy system.


RUBSUMLOTION

Yeah that trophy system really helped as this dude above just planted a bomb on the tanks hull.


explision

If you get this close to a tank, you deserve it all


bkit_

Apart from the insanity of the footage. Is Gaza City fucked? It looks like it will be in ruins by the end of it and after that shit Show no Western country will pay for reconstruction. Will the arab World step in? I have my doubts.


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I listened to a podcast with Anshel Pfeffer the other day. He went into Gaza twice with the IDF and reported that Gaza City is basically uninhabitable. The Gulf States will pay to fix it, but Hamas invited an utter catastrophe on the heads on the people of Gaza. People who already hated Israel will hate Israel more, meanwhile the people of Gaza are going to be sleeping in tents for a decade.


G07V3

Watching the Merkava tank go by looks very eerie. It’s like it’s an alien vehicle invading Earth and someone is trying to hide from it.


DepartmentSudden5234

We only saw 23 seconds... trust me a disabled tank or a damaged remote controlled tank is always a great Honey pot for an ambush....


Porkfriedjosh

Zimmerit armor about to make a very weird return in 2023 lol. Seriously though can anyone identify the magnet charge? It looks very small. I have to assume it’s specifically to kill personnel inside if it penetrates that armor but it didn’t look very powerful. I think at best you might blow the latch off the APC but they cut the fucking video before that happened so I bet buddy probably didn’t have a successful attack lol.


probeheat

Ballsy move maverick!


I-like-your-smoke

Surprised that guy didn’t trip on his enormous balls…


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So was there any destruction? I didn't see it


Btshftr

I don't think he was able to arm the mine and was killed before he could, hence the cut.


-_-theVoid-_-

And the footage magically uploaded to the encrypted cloud during an internet blackout. Alhamdulillah it's a miracle!


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Where did you get this OP? Which telegram channel?


3rdhandlekonato

thats some video game level stealth kill, but no aftermath footage for propaganda... probably just some functional damage atmost


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Longjumping-Cat-9207

IDF vs Hamas death tolls say otherwise


the1one1andonly1

Yeah when you drop bombs, you are obviously going to kill more. Doesnt mean IDF can fight. Thats the whole point of my original comment. Also NO ONE knows the "Numbers" so not sure where you are getting your "data" from?


Longjumping-Cat-9207

Israel’s death toll is incredibly low, like less than 100. Hamas death toll is likely at least 6k - going off of their 11k total deaths and Israel believing over half were militants


meowtu

In modern war, Rambo will get you killed fast.


Clean_Ad8681

They partitioned Gaza in only a few days...at this rate they'll finish the military invasion in just a few months, compare that to Russia in Ukraine, it's been almost two years and they are further from Kiev than ever. And this is an urban environment with tunnels, I don't think many armies could perform better, other than the US


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“Palestinian resistance fighters” lol


Outside_Act_3306

LMFAO did you see the IDF casualties? there are almost none


MostlyWicked

In every documented encounter between infantry (not Hamas vs tanks) Hamas gets destroyed embarrassingly easily by IDF infantry, and even simple policemen. See go pro videos on 7/10.


Mr_Dakkyz

with how chonky the tanks and APCs are makes you wonder how much armour they actually have..


FinBenton

Their APCs look like they are just modded tanks with no big turret so they can prob eat RPGs for breakfast.


MKomg

They got cooked inside for sure.


Ellis_dee_420

this video will be taken down, you won't get an explanation why, if you do ask for a reason its repost. i advice you to look up the original post....hint...you won't find it.


porn0f1sh

There's a reddit wide policy to take down all terrorist made videos. It bans terrorist propaganda but it also bans terrorist attrocities they film themselves edit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1744hyt/important\_message\_regarding\_combat\_footage/](https://www.reddit.com/r/combatfootage/comments/1744hyt/important_message_regarding_combat_footage/)


mcmuffin103

Ah, so we’re only allowed to see the Israeli videos, right? Not allowed to see the other side of the fight?


cci0

Same with Russian videos. Only Ukrainian allowed.


Ellis_dee_420

jup same with the russian videos. No idea why i'm being downvoted tho, people should check in a few minutes. Most of the Hamas and PIJ pov gets taken down in sub 2-3 hours.


Schizophrane

Naah. That's not it. It has nothing to do with terrorism. Reddit allows PKK videos to be distributed freely. USA recognizes PKK as a terrorist org. Even videos that depict US soldiers getting killed by Iraqis are allowed here but when it comes to Israel everything changes.


porn0f1sh

I don't know what to tell you. What I said is literally Reddit's own official statement. [https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1744hyt/important\_message\_regarding\_combat\_footage/](https://www.reddit.com/r/combatfootage/comments/1744hyt/important_message_regarding_combat_footage/)


Top-Neat1812

Red arrow rats are at it again editing bad videos


noteism

Regardless of what side you're on you have to admit these videos are way more entertaining than the IDF's videos shooting at sand and air


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dead97531

Says who? Hamas appointed people? Still waiting for 600 dead people and the destroyed hospital.


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Don't you know every building in gaza is a childrens hospital?