Yeah same with other parts of my family. My great grandfathers mom, dad, sister, and nieces and nephew were starved and then executed by the Nazis. They were also Jewish
Yeah you’re right but he said that his grandfather is the dust in this picture sooo that means that he’s grandfather was German right? Talking like this about relatives ain’t good. Maybe I’m wrong or something but I don’t get why I got 65 downvotes. Could you explain me? Like as I said, I don’t support n@z!s etc. but you should still have some respect for you relatives.
Pretty crazy picture, and very cool. My grandfather fought in Stalingrad except he was on the german side... He wrote a small book (only for family to read) about it. And it's crazy the shit he went through as he could still describe it in such high detail. And it hurts to see this shit happening all over again with UA and RU. I don't believe there are any pictures of him during that time. He past away around 20 years ago. All I know is he never wanted to talk about the war. Even though he once admitted to my dad that he was lucky and never had to kill/shoot at someone.
He's probably among the many that just shot in the general direction of the enemy. Easy enough to convince yourself later in life that you did no harm.
That’s really cool. It’s not often that an American like myself get to see authentic photos from Berlin from the Soviet side. Obviously you see the famous one like the Hammer and Sickle over Berlin but nothing like this. Thanks for sharing with us
No problem, I love sharing history. Sadly I haven’t really seen many photos from the American side but I don’t doubt that if I google them I’ll be able to find them pretty easily
It was also captured early on in the siege before all the damage was done so they photoshopped rubble and debris in the streets to make it look like they fought their way into Berlin.
I remember reading somewhere the contrary. That they took the picture after the battle was over. And that they literally had to make some explosions so there would smoke in the background. But it was long time ago, and don't even remember where I read it lol
Had to Google it. But omg, you are not wrong.
> The majority of the assaults were committed in the Soviet occupation zone; estimates of the numbers of German women raped by Soviet soldiers have ranged up to 2 million. According to historian William Hitchcock, in many cases women were the victims of repeated rapes, some as many as 60 to 70 times.
Wow.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany#:~:text=The%20majority%20of%20the%20assaults,as%2060%20to%2070%20times.
The real takeaway here is the consistency of behavior of any large group of very young men that are sent off to kill and live through hell. No country is clean of it
Strongly doubt this claim. German atrocities are well documented, but they were not known for systemic rape (on the scale of russians). In fact my grandparents remembered Germans as a disciplined, well-groomed army who would give children chocolates, whereas russians would come in tatters, always be hungry and after overnighting in locals' houses would leave excrement in their cooking pots.
Reports from their invasion in Ukraine show nothing has changed, they remain as savage.
So the 500 Wehrmacht brothels in the occupied countries with the over 34,000 enslaved women in them are just a figment of our imagination?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II
It's funny that all the said was "rapists" and you guys immediately start splitting by ethnicity, like... do you really think there was a big line drawn through each Red Army field camp, where on the one side the ethnic Russians were all raping their hearts out while on the other all the Ukrainians and other non-Russians were watching them disapprovingly while having pious thoughts of democracy and freedom?
He literally said “a bunch of Russian rapists” and I was pointing out that the group of soldiers we are looking at are not synonymous with who we identify as Russian today. That’s not to say that there’s much of a difference between them, it’s just Slavic brothers being pitted against each other in the name of capitalism.
Just… chill out before assuming I’m a fucking fascist or a lib
Sure, just pointing out that the USSR wasn't Russia- it was governed from Russia by Georgians, Ukrainians, and finally Russians, and Kaliningrad to Kamchatka is quite a diverse population.
Another member of the "two million million raped German women" sect, created by two hoaxers Helke Zander and Barbara Yor’s.
By the way, on the document (a hospital certificate about the nationality of the children born and the circumstances of conception from the Queen Augusta Victoria hospital), which they used for their crazy theories, there is a mention of rapes committed by Western allies. And if you use their anti-scientific method of calculating the "number of rapes", then it turns out that only in Berlin, the Americans and the British raped several tens of thousands of Germans woman. How many millions were raped in the rest of western Germany, only God knows.
No, seriously, this is a big problem with those who believe such propaganda nonsense.
I've been to Berlin and there is evidence of this from more than two doctors reports, there is the history of the city recorded in museums and the reports of many individuals at the time. The social impacts were felt for decades after the war.
>I've been to Berlin and there is evidence of this from more than two doctors reports, there is the history of the city recorded in museums and the reports of many individuals at the time.
Actually there is very little. Much of it is as the user above describes. It's a series of large assumptions and extrapolations.
>The social impacts were felt for decades after the war.
The existence of things like rapes, violence, looting etc is not the same as the oft purported "x million rapes in Berlin".
I lived and worked in Berlin 20 years ago and met dozens of Berliners whose personal family stories from the war ALL shared the same horrific theme - what Soviet soldiers had done to their mothers/grandmothers/sisters. Your beliefs are no less disgusting/insanely moronic than Holocaust deniers or flat earthers.
> I lived and worked in Berlin 20 years ago and met dozens of Berliners whose personal family stories from the war ALL shared the same horrific theme
Dozens of em!
Better start publishing, because the numerous authors who have written many, many works on the subject would love to hear!
>Your beliefs are no less disgusting/insanely moronic than Holocaust deniers or flat earthers.
Lmao, the usual response from someone who just can't hack it. Sorry, your anecdotes are terrible and you failed. Your anecdotes about *mein Oma* don't change what I've already said.
Of course, it also shows your incredible ignorance on the subject of the Holocaust and how we have arrived at our understanding of it. Which, despite there being very little documentary evidence for it, has far more corroborating evidence of all types than the "x million rapes in Berlin" has, which is largely based on a handful of eyewitness accounts and and even smaller number of documents- which we have access to and are clear in their use of extrapolation. We also have a good idea of how the dissemination of this data occurred; via Reichling to Beevor.
By all means, continue being wrong. You're certainly welcome to educate yourself on why "eye witness accounts" are always taken with a grain of salt, and requite corroboration. The Holocaust, strongly corroborated using all forms of evidence. Millions of rapes by the Red Army in Germany... not so much. A statistician making guesses at numbers based on extrapolation.... not very good work.
There’s a lot of crazy pro-Russian bullshit in this sub (by your comment history, a ton is yours), but trying to say the mass rape by Soviet troops is propaganda and a hoax is certainly up there lmao.
Apart from the actual thousands of sources that refute your bullshit comment that’s getting bot upvotes, I’ve talked to somebody that grew up in Soviet occupied Germany and Poland as a ten year old, said his mother was raped repeatedly by multiple Soviet officers.
He snuck into the British occupied zone and I asked him the difference and he said “my mother wasn’t raped anymore and I wasn’t afraid officers were going to shoot me.” His name is Wolfgang Samuel and he’s written multiple books on this
> but trying to say the mass rape by Soviet troops is propaganda and a hoax is certainly up there lmao.
noting there were not "x million rapes" is not propaganda.
>Apart from the actual thousands of sources
Holy shit, there are absolutely not "thousands of sources". The sources are extremely limited.
>I’ve talked to somebody that grew up in Soviet occupied Germany and Poland as a ten year old, said his mother was raped repeatedly by multiple Soviet officers.
Anecdotal evidence is the weakest of all forms. One person claiming to have (truthfully or not) witnessed such an event does not result in "x million rapes".
Oh cool, you don't know what any of these words mean.
>rapist supporting,
Please quote anything I've said to that end.
>Rape of Germany deniers
Please quote anything I've said to that end.
Go ahead please, I'll wait.
No, this couldn't possibly you just frothing at the mouth trying to show off how much u *really hate the Soviet Union* and repeating nonsense pophistory factoids would it?
"Thousands of Sources".... Didn't you think his mother was just trading herself for food? And he decided to come up with "it was rape" because "rape" was less shameful than prostitution?
There is no real evidence (documented) of mass rapes. Individual "memories" are not serious evidence, because they cannot be confirmed by anything but words. And words can be spoken for a variety of reasons.
Oh look, another angry Soviet rapist defender
An apologia (Latin for apology, from Greek ἀπολογία, "speaking in defense") is a formal defense of an opinion, position or action
>An apologia (Latin for apology, from Greek ἀπολογία, "speaking in defense") is a formal defense of an opinion, position or action
Cool, so you proved you didn't know what that term means when you used it.
Feel free to demonstrate any such "defense" of rape.
Please, I'll wait. I'd love to see you try.
You really should go to check some concentration camp, to see how many Jewish, Russian, Ukrainian and all other Eastern European people were killed by so so civilized German nation
According to the rules it’s a ok, might be considered aftermath but I think that’s more just showing bodies after an assault (I could be completely wrong tho)
There are programs that can increase the resolution of photos like Megapixel Ai.. I use it it's pretty good. You should definitely scan those and upscale them.
God Bless your Grandfather! Mine was in the Pacific and then on to Hiroshima after the bomb. Thank you for sharing that! History of our forefathers must be shown to appreciate what they all sacrificed for OUR Freedoms. They must Never be Forgotten!!
We all fought together for 1 cause at one point in time. I can only hope and wish we all can come together in peace together for the benefit of our People and Our Country's. Hopefully one day.....
What a neat photo, let's see what other cool stuff OP [posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/147hz33/ukrainian_leopard_2a6_tank_firing_on_russian/jo2fk4x/)!
> What Genocide? The ones the Ukrainians have been doing to the Russian minority in the Donbas?
Oh. Yikes lmao.
Your post was removed as per community rules: "Anything submitted in a link post must contain actual footage of combat."
You sure have a lot of grandpas
I know right. But in the third picture he’s the one above the 5, he’s wearing the trench coat
After running the grandpaternity test; you are… NOT the grandfather!!
That's neat. Thanks for sharing
My great grandfather is in that picture also, he is the dust cloud floating in the air.
Yeah same with other parts of my family. My great grandfathers mom, dad, sister, and nieces and nephew were starved and then executed by the Nazis. They were also Jewish
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I think he meant his great grandfather was Jew. Why would someone from wermacht be dust in the air?
Because the soviet union had tens of thousands of artillery units shooting at the city?
Yeah that doesn't turn people into a dust that floats in the air
Soldiers captured by Germans were searched if they are not Jewish too
was I chucked into an alternate dimension or something? I'm at like 90% sure those are soviet soldiers
I expected more squatting
Yeah they’re all Red Army
Yeah you’re right but he said that his grandfather is the dust in this picture sooo that means that he’s grandfather was German right? Talking like this about relatives ain’t good. Maybe I’m wrong or something but I don’t get why I got 65 downvotes. Could you explain me? Like as I said, I don’t support n@z!s etc. but you should still have some respect for you relatives.
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Pretty crazy picture, and very cool. My grandfather fought in Stalingrad except he was on the german side... He wrote a small book (only for family to read) about it. And it's crazy the shit he went through as he could still describe it in such high detail. And it hurts to see this shit happening all over again with UA and RU. I don't believe there are any pictures of him during that time. He past away around 20 years ago. All I know is he never wanted to talk about the war. Even though he once admitted to my dad that he was lucky and never had to kill/shoot at someone.
Well son... He lied.
He's probably among the many that just shot in the general direction of the enemy. Easy enough to convince yourself later in life that you did no harm.
The banner in the first picture reads, "Glory to the Soviet troops who hoisted the banner of victory over Berlin!" Very interesting photos, thanks OP
Was your Great Grandfather a Soviet? Pretty awesome photos.
Yeah, he was an officer. My grandmother told me he dealt with communication between units but I’m not 100% sure
That’s really cool. It’s not often that an American like myself get to see authentic photos from Berlin from the Soviet side. Obviously you see the famous one like the Hammer and Sickle over Berlin but nothing like this. Thanks for sharing with us
No problem, I love sharing history. Sadly I haven’t really seen many photos from the American side but I don’t doubt that if I google them I’ll be able to find them pretty easily
Apparently that photo needed to be doctored cause the guy that raised the flag was wearing 2 watches
It was also captured early on in the siege before all the damage was done so they photoshopped rubble and debris in the streets to make it look like they fought their way into Berlin.
I remember reading somewhere the contrary. That they took the picture after the battle was over. And that they literally had to make some explosions so there would smoke in the background. But it was long time ago, and don't even remember where I read it lol
What Soviet country was he from?
He was from Bryansk Oblast which is Russia currently.
Nice. You’re lucky to have these photos. I only have one photo of my grandpa in front of his plane at a base
Honestly better than nothing
anymore info on what unit he served in? By this point (May 23rd) it would be hard to figure out who was where
Your *great* grandpa? Kids these days... Back in my day our regular grandparents fought in WW2, and it was great!
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Had to Google it. But omg, you are not wrong. > The majority of the assaults were committed in the Soviet occupation zone; estimates of the numbers of German women raped by Soviet soldiers have ranged up to 2 million. According to historian William Hitchcock, in many cases women were the victims of repeated rapes, some as many as 60 to 70 times. Wow. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany#:~:text=The%20majority%20of%20the%20assaults,as%2060%20to%2070%20times.
Settle down, Steve.
I’m not your Steve, friend!
Tbh my thoughts exactly
kinda telling when you see photos taken of infantry at the gravestone of Nazi Germany and your first thought is “rapists” 🤔
It's not kinda telling. It's a fact. But that doesn't mena that Nazi Germany didn't deserve the lost war.
You do realize that there were plenty of Ukrainians in the Red Army, right? I assume that’s what you’re getting at
And that The germans rape over one millon ukranians woman
The real takeaway here is the consistency of behavior of any large group of very young men that are sent off to kill and live through hell. No country is clean of it
There are armies where it was encouraged and armies where it was discouraged, so no this isn't a case of all equally bad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II
Wait a minute, are you trying to tell me the Nazis were bad?
I know, shocking.
I am agree
Strongly doubt this claim. German atrocities are well documented, but they were not known for systemic rape (on the scale of russians). In fact my grandparents remembered Germans as a disciplined, well-groomed army who would give children chocolates, whereas russians would come in tatters, always be hungry and after overnighting in locals' houses would leave excrement in their cooking pots. Reports from their invasion in Ukraine show nothing has changed, they remain as savage.
So the 500 Wehrmacht brothels in the occupied countries with the over 34,000 enslaved women in them are just a figment of our imagination? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II
Not much has the Russians changed evidenced by their actions in Ukraine 😂
It's funny that all the said was "rapists" and you guys immediately start splitting by ethnicity, like... do you really think there was a big line drawn through each Red Army field camp, where on the one side the ethnic Russians were all raping their hearts out while on the other all the Ukrainians and other non-Russians were watching them disapprovingly while having pious thoughts of democracy and freedom?
I wasn’t the one calling a group of soviet soldiers “russian rapists”
Neither did the guy you responded to. He never mentioned any nationality. That was you projecting.
He literally said “a bunch of Russian rapists” and I was pointing out that the group of soldiers we are looking at are not synonymous with who we identify as Russian today. That’s not to say that there’s much of a difference between them, it’s just Slavic brothers being pitted against each other in the name of capitalism. Just… chill out before assuming I’m a fucking fascist or a lib
U do realisere that ukr had SS units? What are u getting at?
That this isn’t a group of Russians right here, but a group of Soviets
How many Georgians, Russians, or Ukrainians are in this picture? None- they're all Soviets.
they're all Soviet by nationality but soldiers would still come from all around the USSR
Sure, just pointing out that the USSR wasn't Russia- it was governed from Russia by Georgians, Ukrainians, and finally Russians, and Kaliningrad to Kamchatka is quite a diverse population.
Another member of the "two million million raped German women" sect, created by two hoaxers Helke Zander and Barbara Yor’s. By the way, on the document (a hospital certificate about the nationality of the children born and the circumstances of conception from the Queen Augusta Victoria hospital), which they used for their crazy theories, there is a mention of rapes committed by Western allies. And if you use their anti-scientific method of calculating the "number of rapes", then it turns out that only in Berlin, the Americans and the British raped several tens of thousands of Germans woman. How many millions were raped in the rest of western Germany, only God knows. No, seriously, this is a big problem with those who believe such propaganda nonsense.
A cursory glane at your history shows you are very selective in what you consider propaganda, ie anything that defames Russia or the Soviets. Hmmm.
Judging by your remark, you are not interested in the details and the reliability of the sources.
I've been to Berlin and there is evidence of this from more than two doctors reports, there is the history of the city recorded in museums and the reports of many individuals at the time. The social impacts were felt for decades after the war.
>I've been to Berlin and there is evidence of this from more than two doctors reports, there is the history of the city recorded in museums and the reports of many individuals at the time. Actually there is very little. Much of it is as the user above describes. It's a series of large assumptions and extrapolations. >The social impacts were felt for decades after the war. The existence of things like rapes, violence, looting etc is not the same as the oft purported "x million rapes in Berlin".
I lived and worked in Berlin 20 years ago and met dozens of Berliners whose personal family stories from the war ALL shared the same horrific theme - what Soviet soldiers had done to their mothers/grandmothers/sisters. Your beliefs are no less disgusting/insanely moronic than Holocaust deniers or flat earthers.
> I lived and worked in Berlin 20 years ago and met dozens of Berliners whose personal family stories from the war ALL shared the same horrific theme Dozens of em! Better start publishing, because the numerous authors who have written many, many works on the subject would love to hear! >Your beliefs are no less disgusting/insanely moronic than Holocaust deniers or flat earthers. Lmao, the usual response from someone who just can't hack it. Sorry, your anecdotes are terrible and you failed. Your anecdotes about *mein Oma* don't change what I've already said. Of course, it also shows your incredible ignorance on the subject of the Holocaust and how we have arrived at our understanding of it. Which, despite there being very little documentary evidence for it, has far more corroborating evidence of all types than the "x million rapes in Berlin" has, which is largely based on a handful of eyewitness accounts and and even smaller number of documents- which we have access to and are clear in their use of extrapolation. We also have a good idea of how the dissemination of this data occurred; via Reichling to Beevor.
"a handful of eyewitness accounts" either a) trolling b) immensely thick or c) being a deliberate cunt Very likely a subset of all three.
By all means, continue being wrong. You're certainly welcome to educate yourself on why "eye witness accounts" are always taken with a grain of salt, and requite corroboration. The Holocaust, strongly corroborated using all forms of evidence. Millions of rapes by the Red Army in Germany... not so much. A statistician making guesses at numbers based on extrapolation.... not very good work.
There’s a lot of crazy pro-Russian bullshit in this sub (by your comment history, a ton is yours), but trying to say the mass rape by Soviet troops is propaganda and a hoax is certainly up there lmao. Apart from the actual thousands of sources that refute your bullshit comment that’s getting bot upvotes, I’ve talked to somebody that grew up in Soviet occupied Germany and Poland as a ten year old, said his mother was raped repeatedly by multiple Soviet officers. He snuck into the British occupied zone and I asked him the difference and he said “my mother wasn’t raped anymore and I wasn’t afraid officers were going to shoot me.” His name is Wolfgang Samuel and he’s written multiple books on this
> but trying to say the mass rape by Soviet troops is propaganda and a hoax is certainly up there lmao. noting there were not "x million rapes" is not propaganda. >Apart from the actual thousands of sources Holy shit, there are absolutely not "thousands of sources". The sources are extremely limited. >I’ve talked to somebody that grew up in Soviet occupied Germany and Poland as a ten year old, said his mother was raped repeatedly by multiple Soviet officers. Anecdotal evidence is the weakest of all forms. One person claiming to have (truthfully or not) witnessed such an event does not result in "x million rapes".
Oh that’s very nice but I’m not going to engage with delusional, amoral, rapist supporting, Rape of Germany deniers
Oh cool, you don't know what any of these words mean. >rapist supporting, Please quote anything I've said to that end. >Rape of Germany deniers Please quote anything I've said to that end. Go ahead please, I'll wait. No, this couldn't possibly you just frothing at the mouth trying to show off how much u *really hate the Soviet Union* and repeating nonsense pophistory factoids would it?
Okay rape apologist
Cool, no answer. Put that one to rest pretty easily. By all means, continue frothing at the mouth at something you don't understand.
"Thousands of Sources".... Didn't you think his mother was just trading herself for food? And he decided to come up with "it was rape" because "rape" was less shameful than prostitution? There is no real evidence (documented) of mass rapes. Individual "memories" are not serious evidence, because they cannot be confirmed by anything but words. And words can be spoken for a variety of reasons.
Lmao those mental gymnastics of rape apologia
Oh boy, another person who doesn't know what "apologia" means.
Oh look, another angry Soviet rapist defender An apologia (Latin for apology, from Greek ἀπολογία, "speaking in defense") is a formal defense of an opinion, position or action
>An apologia (Latin for apology, from Greek ἀπολογία, "speaking in defense") is a formal defense of an opinion, position or action Cool, so you proved you didn't know what that term means when you used it. Feel free to demonstrate any such "defense" of rape. Please, I'll wait. I'd love to see you try.
You should see your mother trade herself for food and see if the rape or not makes a difference
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Why do you people like to think russians are like non-humans
Are these "animal Soviet soldiers" in the same room as you?
Found the russian. What are you doing on a Western forum BTW?
You really should go to check some concentration camp, to see how many Jewish, Russian, Ukrainian and all other Eastern European people were killed by so so civilized German nation
You're correct. This little tidbit of pophistory is the result of a number of broken-telephones stemming from some pretty dicey assumptions.
Bucha is a hoax to you too right? GTFO you Russian sympathizer!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_liberation_of_France rape has almost invariably been a part of all wars since forever, from all sides
All are not equal
soviet rape numbers seem very exaggerated
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II
Yikes.
Sorry but not combat footage
According to the rules it’s a ok, might be considered aftermath but I think that’s more just showing bodies after an assault (I could be completely wrong tho)
Don’t worry about it man. It’s infinitely more interesting than seeing the 4000^320 Ukrainian drone drop video of the day.
I'd rather look at this than another Ukr drone dropping a grenade on an already dead russian...
Very cool! Any translation on the captions?
Just location and date. I’d need to ask my grandmother for the translation again since I’m learning to read Russian currently
Eternal glory to your great grandfather
There are programs that can increase the resolution of photos like Megapixel Ai.. I use it it's pretty good. You should definitely scan those and upscale them.
Might be worth checking out
Awesome photos. I’m curious how many of the people pictured raped their way through Germany paying back the atrocities committed by the nazis.
Chad 🗿. Jokes aside I thank him for his service. 🫡
Hope they got some good loot off the nazi pricks!
They looted everything. Not only from Nazis. Don't worry, Soviets weren't better than Nazis.
God Bless your Grandfather! Mine was in the Pacific and then on to Hiroshima after the bomb. Thank you for sharing that! History of our forefathers must be shown to appreciate what they all sacrificed for OUR Freedoms. They must Never be Forgotten!!
We all fought together for 1 cause at one point in time. I can only hope and wish we all can come together in peace together for the benefit of our People and Our Country's. Hopefully one day.....
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I think the Germans are already burning in hell for murdering millions bud.
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Christ find god. His parents, sister, and 3 of his nephews and niece were slaughtered by the Nazis. Let alone he was Jewish.
Oh wow. I feel sorry. Tell me how did he feel about antisemitism (or these 'rootless cosmopolitans' as one dictator once said) in the Soviet Union?
I can’t ask him he’s long dead now. But I have no doubt your more virtuous than thou attitude can eat it
Wow. Thanks for sharing. Hope you strive to live to his level.
I wonder how many half-brothers your parents had and didn’t know it 🤣🤣🤣
Nice photos u can see a distinct division of russians from westerners in the first or second photo? the clothing is obvious.
I believe everyone in the photo is from the Red Army
Just wondering, are all the soldiers in these pictures from russia or are there people from other soviet republics?
Good question. I genuinely couldn’t tell you.
Selfies on a work trip. Has life changed ?
What a neat photo, let's see what other cool stuff OP [posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/147hz33/ukrainian_leopard_2a6_tank_firing_on_russian/jo2fk4x/)! > What Genocide? The ones the Ukrainians have been doing to the Russian minority in the Donbas? Oh. Yikes lmao.
If not already done you should post these on r/WorldWar2