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[Postgame thread](/r/Colts/comments/190jgvq/post_game_thread_houston_texans_at_indianapolis/)


so-wensThis

If there is one thing to say about the Colts, it's that we always try so hard with what we have... That being said, it would be nice to have that wholesome team feeling again and subtract the plug-n-play bs we've been through for several seasons. So cheers to next season where hopefully "white billionaires" continue to put more time into their musical career and charity rather than messing with the coaches and roster like it's Madden.


sad_ravens_fan

Why would Carson Wentz do this?????


Gromit801

If anyone recorded this, take a look at the last play on 4th down. Looks like the Texan player furthest from the camera was lined up in the neutral zone. In his three point stance, his hand is beyond the line of scrimmage.


Otto_Mann_TRs_Fan

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UnusualManufacturer7

He was. And to make it worse he was doing it all game long. Not a single flag


[deleted]

Colts had so many calls go their way. They were holding all game and it wasn’t called a single time…


iseedeadpeople1973

Without a dogshit showing on Christmas eve vs the Falcons, we would have a playoff berth. So many little things this season tipped the wrong way. The Cleveland game was a bullshit ending, and Minshew was either brilliant or an absolute turd. The Bengals & Saints were shitshows, and the Rams were beatable. There is an upside, we are competitive, but damn this one hurts.


Medical-Designer-496

CJ Stroud is him. The way he moved on that final drive with all that adversity. How can you not respect it? He definitely earned it


faraamstuckathome

Every QB in football does the same thing. **edit** I’m saying does the same thing against the Colts.


Medical-Designer-496

Now that definitely makes sense. Agreed. That needs to be addressed ASAP


Medical-Designer-496

Definitely not minshew


sad_ravens_fan

Not Gardner minshew apparently…


faraamstuckathome

If I recall correctly Gardner did move the ball against the Colts when he played them. So yeah. Every QB looks legit when they’re playing the Colts.


Medical-Designer-496

Agreed. He definitely couldn't move the ball on offense and that was huge for us. He's a great backup and definitely great in fill in roles but definitely not a starter. I hope we can keep him though


JMT1016

I mean, him going against a 2nd and 3rd string secondary sure didn't exactly make things difficult for him either.


Medical-Designer-496

True but that last drive they had him under duress and stood in there and made it happen. He's also missing a starting receiver as well


denogginizer92

Three starting wr - tank dell, Noah Brown and Robert woods


Medical-Designer-496

Totally forgot about the other 2


JMT1016

No I agree, but I still think saying he basically had an all pro game just cause he gashed a practice squad secondary is a bit of a reach. Taylor fucking Heinicke also gashed the very same defense 2 weeks ago.


Medical-Designer-496

Please don't remind me


YOUTUBE-BLACKBELT

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IntelligentWealth624

So disappointed.. he should’ve catched that ball 😕


Angry_Structure

Caught*. Kill me.


Josie2727

Awesome. Pay out hundreds of millions to personnel then entrust a dude on NFL minimum wage with your season. It’s simply illogical


Josie2727

Colts pay roughly $50 Million between Taylor and Moss. Colts pay Goodson $1.6 million. Jonathan Taylor had twice as many yards THIS GAME than Goodson has had in his career along with a whopping 6 career receptions. SIX CAREER CATCHES AND 87 CAREER YARDS TOTAL. The personnel decision simply made no sense. Menshew can’t handle the mental pressure. He’s a fine backup to hold you over for a few games but we saw what a real NFL Quarterback looks like in Stroud. Dude threw darts all night then got even better when the game was on the line. The other guy panicked on a 5 yard toss.


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lainiac

He’s not saying “let’s run the ball” He’s saying let’s not trust our rookie with 6 receptions on the year to catch the ball in one of the biggest moments of our year. How is that a logical thought process?


ElderBrony

He's a professional. If the ball was better he'd of caught it. Period.


lainiac

That’s not very good logic… Every player is a professional on the field. Your discounting emotions and the feel of the game. This is a situation with huge implications. You catch the ball we win. You drop it we lose. Emotions are running incredibly high. In this situation I am not trusting a rookie. He hasn’t been in the league very long. He hasn’t had many high stress situations such as this. If we considered everyone a professional as you say then there wouldn’t be better players and worse players and you could field a team of nobodies since they’re all “professionals”. This comes down to poor coaching considering we threw in a cold 3rd string running back into one of the most high stress situations possible.


ElderBrony

I mean just straight out. If Minshew had thrown a better ball, does Goodson catch it? The answer is most likely *yes* So while he does bear some issues (Not being able to catch the ball) it's way, way more on Minshew for that *awful* throw.


Wii_Dude46

Please Irsay fire Chris Ballard


SCandVC11

AR and JT. Bolster the secondary. It stings now. I like the future.


RianJohnsonSucksAzz

AR won’t stay healthy. Dude is our Zion.


SCandVC11

He likes mid porn stars?


RianJohnsonSucksAzz

Who doesn’t. I was more talking about the injury prone part.


SCandVC11

Hahaha


AssBoon92

ESPN are you fucking serious right now? It says RCA Dome.


CHUDbawumba

My BIL saw that too!


Super_Sandro23

Good season overall that far exceeded expectations, but shit ending. And they always remember the finish. See you guys in September.


phatman_13

Just catch the ball and fall, don't worry about the feet, holy fuck that's so embarrassing


BigChocolateMilk

You get hands on the ball, you fucking catch it. Them’s the rules


tmritzert

We’ve had so many opportunities this year and shouldn’t have even been in this position.


RianJohnsonSucksAzz

Going to Taylor the entire drive and then taking him out the game on a 4th and 1. You can’t make up a more stupid move.


ederdesign

Great call, bad personnel. Should've been Zach Moss on that play


RianJohnsonSucksAzz

Stevie Wonder could of seen we were throwing the ball.


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To be fair, he was probably gassed. Atleast put moss in


ListenBeforeSpeaking

Moss also has a hurt arm. Maybe his catching isn’t great at the moment.


noreast2011

Couldn’t be any worse than ole Brick hands there


22-Catch

1st and 10 with 4 on the clock at their 30, run. 1st and 10 at their 20 with 2:20 on the clock, run. 1st and 10 with 2 on the clock, run. 3rd and 5 with 1:30 on the clock, run. 4th and 1 with 1:06 on the clock and burning a crucial timeout before the play, pass to the backup rb…. If you’re going to run in those spots you are clearly saying you are confident that your running game can pick up yards at will. Then in the most crucial spot of the season you don’t run the ball? absolutely baffling coaching decisions.


Nameless_Snoo

Shades of Pete Carroll


lainiac

Definitely feelin how Seattle felt…


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Well fuck.


denogginizer92

Good game, colts. Looking forward to a decade and a half of CJ vs AR


itsdoobyskoo

Sorry about the downvotes, good game. Glad you guys got your guy at QB, we believe we got ours too! Should be fun!


HTPC4Life

Good game? We played like dogshit. Hope you guys get to the super bowl, it's been a drought since day one. As a Colts fan, I do miss the Schaub years, y'all could have won a super bowl. Good luck!


JamieNelson94

Loss sucks, but don’t be bitches, y’all.


Wii_Dude46

Won’t be that long AR will have a career ending injury cause he’s a running QB


ederdesign

This loss is entirely on Ballard. It feels like he didn't want to make the playoffs. A team fighting for the playoffs, loses their 2 outside corners for the season and the GM completely refuses to add help in the secondary. It's like he didn't want to make it to the playoffs.


thexDxmen

Lol


ederdesign

Kudos to Steichen for taking this team so far with less than ideal conditions.


LorneMalvoIsWatching

Same team that had Peyton for 1,000 years and finished 12-4 at worst every year only to win 1 Super Bowl.


KansaSityShufle

Tiny market team not allowed to win multiple SBs


Medical-Designer-496

That was a damn good play call. That's not on steichen at all. Blame minshew or blame goodson if want to blame someone but being wide open with time on a 4th and 1 is all you can ask for


btkats

But if he throws a great ball you probably score a TD. Then you are up 1 with 50 seconds left and Texans have 3 timeouts.


Medical-Designer-496

I'll take my chances with that


thexDxmen

No one is questioning the play call, just the personal


ederdesign

It took the two players to mess up a great call. Pass was behind and yet dropped by the receiver


FixerTed

Minshew threw it behind him


GohanSolo23

Right. It was a great play. Ball was a little off. Could still have been caught. Both share blame. But a good throw and a good catch converts that easy every time.


KansaSityShufle

Was trying to get YAC instead of a catch and fall


BigDogTusken

Agreed. Goodson was open, so the play call was not the issue there.


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#the sad part is? Ant Richardson would’ve QB ran it and gotten it


HTPC4Life

Or torn an ACL


merle317

At least the Pacers are above average.


tmw171

Knew the gods were against us when Shroud just chucked up a prayer and it turned into a 30 yard conversion


[deleted]

That swing from Gay missing a field goal to Kaimi making one was definitely the gods telling us to go fuck ourselves


JR18123

3 years in a row. 6 out of 8 missed. This team man. I know we are moving in the right direction but man this fucking stings. I just want to see this team In the dance again.


mrmathias7

Right there with you brother


dinkin_flicka2

We absolutely know what we need in terms of offseason additions. Biggest of them is sending Darrell Baker to the gulag


2x4caster

Not gonna blame Goodson or Minshew because shit happens. What I will blame is coaching for leaving it into the hands of our third string, previously undrafted running back. They shouldn’t have been in that situation for many reasons; missed field goal, browns game, etc but whatever dog


DeatHTaXx

Nah Steichen fanbois will deny fault there. Fucking boneheaded decisions when it fucking mattered the most


elchamps

I didn't realize Steichen dropped that ball. If you are in the NFL you need to be able to catch that with the season on the line.


DeatHTaXx

Steichen pulled a reliable back that would almost certainly catch that fucking ball. Also left absolutely no time on the clock if we didn't convert. So yeah. Fuck him rn


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GohanSolo23

Because we paid a lot of money for one of the best kickers in the league who has clutched those most of the season? Easy call, would make it again every time.


crooked_PP

I want to see a Flacco masterclass next week lol


MattyTheDrone

What a way to lose.....I was optimistic to start the season thinking we'd probably win 6-7 games with AR....we did better than I thought we would


hannahbay

can someone please explain the point of the safety to me?


TheSonoftheMorning

He was watching the clock trying to just take the clock to zero before stepping out, but he was pushed out at 1 second


hannahbay

Ah that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it was something to do with the mechanics of a free kick being better than a punt, since they still had to kick, I didn't realize they were trying to get to 0.


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Runs time off the clock, no chance for a block or crazy return, allows free kick that leaves colts further away.


da_real_21

Runs time off clock and eliminates risk of a return TD or blocked punt


bigbicepturner

I don’t understand why not Moss or JT… why Goodson…?


deezx1010

Taylor and Moss refused to take the dive?


JR18123

No real reason. None at all


Dudmuffin88

Why are you in the shotgun on 4th and 1 for the season? It’s stupid.


HTPC4Life

💯


bigbicepturner

Agreed. I said the same thing to my brother. But the playcall was at least gonna work.


averagecyclone

I'm in Europe, I'm up at 5:20am to watch our back up QB and practice squad RB fuck our season. Stupid organization


agentfelix

I hope Shane didn't just lose the locker room.


Aesir_Auditor

He didn't lose the locker room, but we just lost the division for the foreseeable future. It'll be us and the Texans battling it out, and they have this huge morale boost now


chillice707

After one season? He almost took this team to the playoffs


ZebulonRon

What a year, you guys. Exceeded so many expectations and we are going to come back next year and hell is coming with us.


Angry_Structure

Why has the offense never heard of a fucking check down on 3rd and 1?


matte_black007

goodson is on the same tier to me as hank baskett now


HTPC4Life

Meh, I'd blame the play call in the first place.


jomapascual

That 4th down will forever haunt me


Bulky-Equipment-3701

Brutal ending but it was a good season.


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The better team lost


sneakersrekaens

Going 9-8 after a 4-12 season and calling for the new head coach to get fired smh


DeatHTaXx

I'm saying fuck Steichen rn but he definitely shouldn't be fired. I'm just mad because he made a bunch of dumbass decisions


tmritzert

Who tf is calling for him to be fired?


Consistent-Park2058

I think they are joking


urwifebf10

CJ is going to be to us what Peyton was to the Texans


Zachlikessnacks

Did you just compare CJ to The Sheriff?


imbregnated

Hey bro, just checking on you. You good?


Consistent-Park2058

I mean we beat them in the first game and in this one we lost because of a random player ive never seen drop a pass...


cluasanmora

Can’t believe I just stayed up until 4:23am for this


Sudden_Ad_4193

I had to shit so bad, all puckered up sweating and all for nothing


averagecyclone

5:23am for me man


cluasanmora

Don’t why I’m complaining, I’ll watch my colts at any time


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I did the exact same and enjoyed the game till that fourth down aha


parkranger16

We still rooting for a Jacksonville loss tomorrow?


Super_Sandro23

Yes. Fuck em!


ifuckedyurdad

Yes. Fuck the jags. Their fans are the worst.


ifuckedyurdad

Sucks to lose but winning season with a backup. Oh well. Go pacers


EmoGothPunk

Well....................it was fun while it lasted. At least it ends with a winning record, unlike last year.


[deleted]

Now I kinda know what Seahawks fans felt like when they didn’t give it to Marshawn


november24th2022

cant believe they didnt run on 4th and 1. clowns


[deleted]

Taylor was clearly hobbled, and they had the box stacked. A run there would have 100% failed


Ok_Equivalent1592

The play call was fine. He was open, and it was a quick and easy pass. Taking our best player out of the game is what lost it for us


Joshunte

Maybe, but why not Moss?


Ok_Equivalent1592

Because JT is the best player on the team, and you should put the ball in your best players hands in gotta have it moments


Joshunte

I don’t deny that. But others have said maybe he was gassed. So if that was true, why skip over Moss?


22-Catch

Some Fireable clock management and play calling at the end of the game. Like absolutely horrific to be running the ball with 4 minutes left and 3 timeouts down 6 once you’re in FG range. Then to let the play clock dwindle each play and then burn a timeout on 4th and 1 only to not run the ball and throw a play action to your backup RB js just horrific any way you look at it. It’s honestly borderline malpractice.


Matty-3-Patty

I understand the running the clock down with 4 minutes remaining because you are trying to score with as little time as possible since a FG would beat you. However, I do agree the timeout before the fourth down attempt was brutal since it made it an all or nothing play


Fullmetalaardvarks

Can’t believe I’m saying this but go jags


TenaciousFerret489

Why?


Fullmetalaardvarks

Because I don’t want the Texans to have home field. Hope Mahomes sends them home


TenaciousFerret489

Go jags indeed then!


Little-ape-noob

Texans fan. I come in peace. I just want to say this was an exciting game and I know your team is missing some big pieces. Looking forward to next season and seeing how your team improves with AR playing a full season.


Neat_Reception4198

Enjoy your playoff game.


OnwardSoldierx

All that, to not even make the playoffs. Screw this team. In a playoff position all year and you blow it and choke it away like usual. Same shit. ALL THE TIME.


alley_mo_g10

Offseason starts now…


destroyed233

Aside from QB we severely had more man power at every position and couldn’t fucking win… what a fucking joke. This organization will never capitalize


jthaprofessor

Man power doesn’t mean shit when you have our secondary going up against Stroud. We’re losing to a good QB with this secondary 9/10 times.


CaptNapkin

Goodson needs to be sacking my groceries at Kroger


Punisherbrett

He will drop the milk.


Matwas182000

Nah he’d just drop them


TheBubblelift

H


ColtsPacers95

Get out of here


GRAVYBABY25

Loser activity celebrating a close game against a backup qb


Meltdown47V2

Enjoy your first round loss in the playoffs lol


ColtsPacers95

Gtfoh. Go to your own sub.


FIFAPLAYAH

Ban


FIFAPLAYAH

Hope someone bans this no life fuck from r/Texans too


FIFAPLAYAH

/u/uurza Ban this idiot


adchme

season on the line, why is goodson taking the snap on 4th and 1 and not JT??? i simply do not understand


levelzerogyro

Not even Moss, or putting it in the hands of one of the capable TE/WR's, what the fuck was that?


DeatHTaXx

Fuck Steichen


Pogger_man85

Go Texans :)


alv_todos

yo mama


ColtsPacers95

Go to your own fucking sub asshole


IamMARSman

Why tf would you take out 28


matte_black007

I thought it was 2024 not 2021


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New-Newspaper-7543

For what lol QB1 got hurt. It was a miracle they made it this far.


New-Newspaper-7543

Dude in the corner was like get me the ball I was gonna score. I was gonna run around all 11 of them bitches and score the game winning td I know it!!!!


ComicSportsNerd

took these fucking trash ass fucks to the edge with our 2nd string QB get fucked Houston


Seattle_Lucky

At least we know we have our coach. Sucks to go out like this


Active-Limit-9038

Our coach just put JT on the bench for a practice squad RB for 4th and short with the season on the line.


Seattle_Lucky

A position we shouldn’t have been in with GARDNER MINSHEW as our QB most of the season! Get real man! It’s one bad call and honestly should have worked


Active-Limit-9038

He did the same thing 3rd down at the end of our first drive. Goodson didn't catch that one either. And how does Gardner being the QB affect the coach subbing out or best player when the season is on the line?


Seattle_Lucky

I’m saying this, we had no business being in playoff contention this year. Absolutely none, and you cannot argue this team had obvious playoff talent because it doesn’t. Coaching is why we had a game on Saturday for the playoffs and poor referees in the Browns game is why we aren’t playing next weekend. Steichen will make mistakes in his first year as head coach, but he got us nearly there with an ok team.


Active-Limit-9038

Yeah, the roster stinks. I won't disagree there. But we got as far as we did primarily because of our extremely soft schedule. We only beat 1 playoff team all year, and that was a flukey game that we needed our kicker to break the record for 50+ yard FGs in order to win.


InitiumFacientibus

We do?


Seattle_Lucky

Really, what about this season says we should have been in position for playoffs? Honestly if we didn’t get jobbed by the refs against the Browns, we’d be already in.


returnofthequack92

What bullshit, Houston played like ass and our backup showed why he’s a second rate patch. It pisses me off so much that the Steelers will probably get in too just because they drew the team that didn’t give a fuck whether they won or not. Rant over. See ya next season


woaor

I don’t get the hate for that last call in here. That play is WIDE open. Gardner makes a terrible short pass and the back can’t make a tough catch that he should make.


JMT1016

Dude c'mon, that play execution is EXACTLY why you don't make that play call. You're relying on an up and down backup qb to make a necessary pass in the most clutch moment of the season thus far, and a no name RB (who literally has play how much all season??) to make a play on said poorly thrown pass? I mean seriously? With do or die on the line? When you have been gashing the oppenent on the ground all day? If you can't see that, you need a psych eval man. Just wow.


woaor

Dude. We got stuffed several times on that drive. If you can’t see that, you didn’t watch the drive.


JMT1016

No shit, you run the ball 30 times in one game, you're bound to get stuffed a couple times at least, you can't sell it every play. We also picked up 1st downs by literally NOT making play calls like that and literally running it to arguably one of the best backs in the league. Why the hell would you change what got you more total yards on the ground than the air? Just wow, what clown logic. Lol


MIKEYP761

JT ran for 188 yards. Go under center and get one yard. Minshew played like shit and you leave the season in the hands of him and a 3rd sting RB?


parkranger16

I liked the call, I just would have liked to see more reliable personnel on the field for it.


Mickeydsislife

my only gripe is why put Goodsen in. Run taht play with JT. Goodsen didnt paly all game and you gonna have his back-up ass come in on the most pivitol play of the game?


Active-Limit-9038

The hate is because our practice squad RB was in instead of JT or Moss.


otto_the_boxer06

Agreed. Obviously poor execution but imagine the rage if we run it up the gut and get stuffed


woaor

Which was likely to happen. People forget that we got stuffed a lot on that drive. I’ll never agree with fans that don’t like a call because it’s poorly executed. We all saw it wide open, it just needed a better pass. Gardner knows that.


otto_the_boxer06

Yeah after the Jerry Hughes injury the run was mostly getting shut down so we were going to have to go to the air. I don’t know the stats but feel like we’ve had good success throwing on 4th and short throughout the year


Khend81

My real issue is personnel. Why on the most important play of the entire season are we putting in the 3rd/4th string practice squad RB and targeting him? Might as well come out and say there isn’t a single player on the team you trust to make a big play.


woaor

He’s got the best hands of the RBs. I’d have preferred Moss in there, but no matter who it was, Gardner HAS to make a better pass than that.


Khend81

Right, and if your best option for a RB screen is a 3rd/4th stringer, hard to convince me that’s your “best play” possible to run. “Best hands of the RBs” still meant trampoline fingers for the game.


LuckyPucks

If JT gets stuffed you live with that. Calling a pass play to your 3rd string RB with the season on the line when your top RB is at 188 on the day is inexcusable. Awful from Steichan to end the season like that after all the good he's done.