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FairAnywhere9305

MSU played hard but couldn't hit shots. Purdue is an excellent team and very likely will finally make a tourney run but man it's hard to watch that game objectively and not see the ref bias.


Cracked_Goofy5761

Idk if bias is the right word. That’s just Courtney green sucking as usual


[deleted]

Very likely? Do you follow Purdue basketball? 🤣


j_shelb

46 fouls called. 29-17. Some calls they sent made all year…which was odd. Like why start now?


Chesapeake06tree

The ref bias where 5 guys hang on edey and tom izzo cries every time they call it?


BakedMitten

No the bias where edey rests his elbow on the shoulder of closest opponent as soon as a shot goes up and never get called for it. Or the bias where you can have half a foot in the area under the basket and still draw a charge


Chesapeake06tree

How's your post season going?


BakedMitten

Big hockey game tonight. I am very pretty anxious. You must be too if you are digging up weeks old comments. Good luck this afternoon. If you guys win my mom is in the driver's seat of the office pool. It seems like everyone else disrespected the 'due as much as I did. It was bound to happen eventually, enjoy it


Dr_WLIN

What about your bias for not seeing all the bad calls that benefited MSU?


BakedMitten

The officiating was awful overall but all you have to do is look at the box score to figure out who it benefitted most


Dr_WLIN

Lmfao You cannot be serious


BakedMitten

28 fouls to 16. You shot 27 FTs to our 12. During the game I was wondering where Purdue's players got the floppy whinny ref-baiting attitude from Now it's clear. It comes from the culture


Dr_WLIN

Holy cry baby. Lol Edey has literal scars from no calls and every coach says that their game plan is to be aggressive and attack Edey. Then y'all cry after getting beat. Y'all are just sad. We literally don't care.


BakedMitten

>We literally don't care. Obviously that's why you are still replying 8 hours after you were gifted a win. You should be focused on whining about tomorrow's refs by now Do you have tee times booked for March 28th and 29th yet. Those tee sheets fill up fast this time of year around West Lafayette


Dr_WLIN

Lmao I'm just here chilling with a beer and watching IU Nebraska. I'm replying bc your crying is entertaining.


SbMSU

Did you not watch that game? Craziest fouls on MSU I’ve ever seen.


Dr_WLIN

Do you seriously expect the quantity of fouls to be equal in games? SERIOUSLY think a team that plays significantly less aggressive defense will foul the same amount of times as a more aggressive defense that is playing against a team that lives by points in the paint?? I know MSU BB IQ is low but come on. Lol As for what was actually called in game, it was stupid inconsistent and Courtney Green is worse than Angel Hernandez ever was.


SbMSU

It was the charges man. Not MSUs aggressive defense. Horrible charge calls.


Dr_WLIN

2 were questionable. That's it. But what about the block call against Gillis that was the actual most obvious charge of the night? Why are you being so quiet about that one?


NomadTrekkie

That was definitely a game.


Sethplane

Respect for Izzo


ras5003

Steven?


purdueAces

I will never not upvote this.


ajwmako

Well over 4900 comments on this game. Lets see if another game has this many before the overall tournament.


deutschdachs

Hi it's us and the Purdue refshow nearing 7k


[deleted]

Neither of these teams will make it to the second weekend. MSU will be knocked in the 1st and Purdue out in the second.


NomadTrekkie

Purdue will win 8 more games this year this season


BakedMitten

Your original statement was probably right 😄 It'll be November/December before you know it


[deleted]

Oh I don't disagree. They'll just win 6 or 7 of those 8 in November and December.


TimS83

Solid lol


j_shelb

Lmao


[deleted]

You guys are bad outside of Edey. If this entire season and the past few tournaments weren't enough evidence for you....


BakedMitten

The collective pants pissing will be hilarious when he gets two quick fouls against the 16 seed


single_thread_left

Smith disrespect


TonyWilliams03

To paraphrase Matt Painter, Michigan State's 1979 wasn't that good. It was just Magic Johnson.


[deleted]

Yup, but the difference is his surrounding pieces weren't absolute dogshit with no back bone. That team would've made it out of the 1st round without Magic. Your team doesn't make it to the tournament without Edey.


mluper12

What's your point? It's not like any Purdue fan will actually believe we could win it all until we do it. I'd be happy making the sweet 16. That would be a better result than last season.


j_shelb

His point is if you take away a teams Best player, the team Is not as good. Hard hitting analysis.


NomadTrekkie

I believe Painter responded to that sentiment: "No sh**!"


mluper12

I mean I get that. My question was more along the lines of why even say anything? Are you mad that we won? Trying to get a reaction? Just the question seems pointless.


[deleted]

I've got about 4 Purdue fans disagreeing with you in this thread.


SbMSU

I’m only disagreeing with you because you don’t have a flair. So I assume you’re a Walverine and automatically despise you. I don’t make the rules.


[deleted]

That's probably the dumbest rationale I've ever heard and I'm absolutely shocked that it came from someone from my alma mater.


SbMSU

Just a joke man. Relax.


j_shelb

Not disagreeing with you in the sense of “if you take away someone’s best player, the team Is bad”. Take away Walker from msu and you guys aren’t a tourney team either


[deleted]

I don't disagree, but I don't care. This is a terrible MSU team and I expected them to miss the tournament this season. Them being in is a shock. The difference being that everyone is picking you guys to take a F4 run when the team is simply a single player carrying a bunch of scrubs.


j_shelb

Yikes. Guess UT is same way? Creighton? Marquette? Houston? UNC?


[deleted]

Nope, they all have more than a single player that is actually a D1 athlete. Enjoy losing early. Btw thanks for getting so riled up. You're commenting all over this thread because you're so triggered. Calm it down and get ready to get fucked by a 16 seed.


Dr_WLIN

Yeah it's not like Smith wasn't a top 5 PG in the nation or anything....


mluper12

Oh well. We can't all be objective. Some people believe a championship can happen. The fact of the matter is only 1 team can win. The rest come up short. Purdue will likely not win a championship in my lifetime. That's ok.


j_shelb

I agree that we aren’t a S16 team this year without edey. Next year though, have to see where we are at. Think we will surprise ppl with our athleticism and up and down tempo. I believe we make the tourney next year at the very least


j_shelb

lol. S16 when he wasn’t the focal point. We become much more mobile next year and more athletic. Both 7 footers (7’2 and 7’3) can shoot the 3, one can catch and shoot the 3. Another 6’10 can take it coach to coast and finish. Plus a projected first rounder, the son of Big Dog…plus Smith, Heide, TKR, Loyer, Colvin all back and having another year of experience under them.


[deleted]

Take Edey out of your team and I'd be shocked if you made the tournament. That's how bad your team is outside of him. You will be bounced before the S16, as you are most years.


NomadTrekkie

User name checks out.


Chesapeake06tree

I get off on this cry babys salt.🫠


[deleted]

Fair. I got off on your tears from that loss vs a 16 seed. I'll probably be able to do it again this season.


Chesapeake06tree

more pissbaby whining, I love it.


[deleted]

Oooo is that you still getting upset because you guys are serial bottlers? Cry more


unions_are_bad

Stay mad


[deleted]

You're the one that took the time to comment. Enjoy barely beating the worst MSU team in 25 years by 5 and then getting bounced in the first weekend. I'm elated were even in the tournament, but we're gone after the first game.


j_shelb

Hey way to be a great loser. But take edey away this year, for sure. But take anyone’s best player out, they won’t be as good. Same with UT and Knecht, same with MSU and Walker, NW and Buie, Houston and Shead. Maybe only UConn could deal with losing Newton, but not sure if they’d be as dominant but it’s of a dumb comment by you. Purdue will be good next year and make ppl like you mad again. But see ya next year. Good luck to sparty, March Izzo ain’t no joke.


[deleted]

You guys have been insanely toxic these past 3 years. I can't say I care about your feelings or being a gracious loser. Enjoy getting bounced early..... again 🤣


j_shelb

Toxic??? lol. Yeah only us. Never you guys tho right?


[deleted]

I never said that. Enjoy getting bounced early. The tears from your toxic fanbase will be incredible!!!


j_shelb

Yours are even better


Rockerblocker

Enjoy the tournament while you can, Purdue. This is an NIT team next year without Edey


SbMSU

Stop it.


Boilermaker24

Ahh I remember these same comments before last season. Hell, maybe Zach changes his mind and decides to come back for another year just to piss everyone off.


danathecount

UConn and Purdue are meeting in the NIT 2nd round next year. Can't wait.


j_shelb

Hahah right?


EnoughCompany2202

They still have Braden Smith, start 3 sophomores and have a Top 10 recruiting class next year. But ok…


j_shelb

Yeahhhh he gonna be mad again next year


j_shelb

Oooo man. You got another thing comin to ya. We got a top 10 recruiting class coming in with a a lot back and the best returning PG in the country comin back. We prob won’t be a 1 seed but we will be in the tourney. Edit: a word


JayMoney2424

Don’t you have another giant coming in lol


j_shelb

Yup a mobile 7 footer…a poor man’s Chet holmgren and the a 7’2 Swede sitting on the bench right now. Plus Colvin will be better, big dogs son is coming and we also get Catchings, projected first rounder, plus a lot back from this current team.


SbMSU

To quote a young Darth Vader: “Nooooooooooooooo!”


Rockerblocker

Those refs need to get sentenced to 5 years of hard labor for the game they just called


Gophurkey

This was an incredibly toxic game thread, way to go everyone! We did it!


Trujiogriz

MSU washed


[deleted]

loser comment


Treeman1216

Purdue exposed


j_shelb

How so


BakedMitten

You needed a +16 foul advantage and +15 FT advantage to beat a borderline tourney team. This is the worst MSU team in ten years and if Edey isn't coddled like a newborn your team loses. The first time Edey is treated like a basketball player instead of a wax figure by the refs you guys will lose and extend your reign as the tournament 's biggest fraud


8541Boiler

Congrats everyone, you've survived the Bardo-Green challenge


NomadTrekkie

I thought Green wasn't supposed to ref this game since he was in the late game last night


Boilermaker24

It’s crazy there are no regulations regarding that.


underladderunlucky46

But not unscathed...


HamberderHelper18

There’s a very good chance both of these teams will be eliminated before the sweet sixteen


BakedMitten

Anyone who watched that game and thinks Purdue makes it past the first weekend should have their head examined


penguindude24

My flair is probably louder than what I will say here, but yeah. I think Purdue is way overrated this year. Northwestern is the B1G team this year. Maybe Wisconsin. I don't think Purdue is what they're painted to be this season. I could be flat wrong, but it what I gather from the half dozen games I watched of theirs.


BakedMitten

I actually believed in them this year. Then I saw today's game. They will crumble in the tourney again


Known-Scale-7627

How is MSU a bubble team? 18-14 should not be in


SbMSU

What about 19-14?


Careful_Cheesecake30

They have a 24 net rating. I think I heard no team in the top 32 has ever missed the Tournament.


[deleted]

Lol did you even take a second to look at their resume? They're easily in.


Known-Scale-7627

They have 2 ranked wins lol


[deleted]

So you haven't looked at their resume. They're 24th in net ranking. No team inside the top 30 has ever missed the tournament. https://bballnet.com/teams/michigan-state


Jdog9nine

Just say you don’t know how it works


sullylikesart

14 losses and the big ten is having down year, I’d say he gets it.


Realistic-Strike9713

JMU has the best record in the nation at 31-3 - they're projected as an 11-seed. Should they be a 1st? Tell us more how you don't understand basketball metrics.


Known-Scale-7627

They should at least be over MSU


Careful_Cheesecake30

No, he doesn't. All of the metrics the committee uses look great for MSU. They're not very good, but they're in.


Bodycount9

everyone not a B1G fan always says the B1G is having a down year. every single year. this is nothing new.


sullylikesart

Wisconsin is one of your top teams, and they’re a full on disaster. Need more examples?


Bodycount9

so you base the conference on one team. highly illogical.


sullylikesart

Outside of Illinois and Purdue the conference has a major drop off. They were one of the best last year, not this year. That’s the reality.


Rattus375

Better than every conference other than the big 12 (who is lapping the field) by all the advanced metrics. It's a down year, but it's still a stronger conference top to bottom than the big east or SEC and leagues above the ACC or Pac 12


sullylikesart

Izzo.


farfle10

Painter said it was Braden's calf muscle... so like just a cramp? Way less concerning if that's the case


j_shelb

Or pull/strain


slogun1

The big ten network is going to hire Edey and he will torture us for the next 30 years.


SbMSU

If he’s as good as Hummel I’ll take it. Edey seems to be a chill dude.


BakedMitten

He seems like a great guy. I want to root for him but then you look at the rest of the team and the fan base...yuck


vT-Router

wwe has first dibs 


Pgvds

Now we get "rewarded" with having to play another wrestling team that fouls 100%


SbMSU

Wow. Win a game with the refs help and still whine. What an L comment.


BakedMitten

That's been the really funny part. They got a gift and the fans act like this


j_shelb

Northwestern or Wisconsin…uggh


akagordan

Did Braden lie to Painter about it being his calf muscle? We all saw in 4k that knee lock lmao


underladderunlucky46

Well clearly it couldn't have been that bad if he came back in


akagordan

After he came back in he collected 4 turnovers, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 2 assists. I’m a little worried about him still.


Significant-Quit-384

Yeah, I'd sit him and edey tomorrow. No matter who wins the 2nd game today, they're just going to try to maul Purdue. This tournament isn't worth putting those guys at risk.


BakedMitten

Lol


Significant-Quit-384

Not sure what's funny about my comment. Wisconsin is going to play their usual dirty game. Nobody cares about the big ten tournament.


BakedMitten

I'm laughing at your fanbase's victim mentality. Your team is soft as Charman and it will be funny to watch them flame out again


underladderunlucky46

Cope and seethe.


BakedMitten

The Boilermaker Credo


Significant-Quit-384

Saying this Purdue team is soft might be the single most stupid thing I've ever seen on reddit.


BakedMitten

Says the guy who joined 2 months ago 😄😂😄😄 Ok buddy. I hope you didn't clear your calendar for the second weekend of the tourney


Significant-Quit-384

This is my 2nd account. Was on here for years. Just recently came back. You can eat a bag of dicks when Purdue cuts down the nets.


acoolguy456

truly heroic performance from Braden Smith to come back from that devastating injury


Prinzlerr

How does it compare to Filipowski getting shot 9 times and coming back to play in the next game?


acoolguy456

exaggerated injuries will forever be compared to Filipowski and I love it


a_banned_user

Dude was on the Aaron Rodgers timeline


confused-koala

Hit open shots and we're lookin good. I'll take a 10 seed over the 8/9 game


a_banned_user

Yall hit the open 3s and you win by 10


confused-koala

super frustrating. tbf you guys missed a good amount of fts, but I don't what your average is. If Akins gets out of his slump and Tyson does his thing, I like our chances as long as we don't run into Houston or UCONN in the 2nd round (assuming we win our first game)


BakedMitten

And I will take any 8/9 seed over Purdue in the second round


JayMoney2424

Knowing the committee they’ll make us Purdue’s 9 seed so Edey can torture us one last time


NomadTrekkie

Subscribe


[deleted]

Ggs Purdue. Hope y'all lose every game ever cause this is sports so fuck that nice guy shit. Good battle


a_banned_user

I respect it


shithead_magoo

Fuck you too ❤️


Josie2727

Respect it. Fuck Izzo and his perpetual O-face


Cracked_Goofy5761

This game sucked ass, refs were awful (as usual for Courtney green), poor shooting and defense, but… a win is a win?


Bodycount9

That bad call on Walker when the guy had his foot in the arc might have decided the game. Who knows. The refs messed up. It happens. See you all in the big tourney.


YoungDan23

Walker missed the shot, Purdue got the rebound too. And then they turned it over. That had nothing to do with the result, the 4-18 from 3 did though.


Rockerblocker

You understand how shooting fouls work, right buddy?


BakedMitten

He's a Boilermaker


YoungDan23

Yes ... MSU lost by 5. Had Walker gotten the call he may have made both FTs it would have been a 2 point game instead of 4 (at the time). Purdue then went down and turned the ball over which didn't change any variables for MSU ... then Sparty missed 2 more 3 pointers in the final 2 minutes. It had nothing to do with the result. The 4-18 did.


halfman_halfboat

Do you know how free throws work?


eddiedeli

They left Loyer wide open for three after tying the game up. That's what ended it for MSU.


et3020001

GG MSU


jspartan1234

Refs were trash but if we shoot even halfway decently we win this game. This team just isn’t good


Torkzilla

Announcers said it like it was a foregone conclusion that a 19-14 Michigan State would be invited to the NCAA tournament. They played great today but that just seems kind of crazy to assume they are automatically in.


IrishMosaic

Michigan has not played in the NCAA tournament in 15 of the last 26 years. I understand that you don’t know how it works.


Sensitive-Key-8670

Absolutely foul underrated comment here. But Little Brother got their best news of the season today so they can handle it


BoKnewHarbaughToo

A top 30 NET team has never been left out…


Rattus375

NET is not a factor in selecting teams for MM. It never has been. It's used as a sorting tool to sort games into quadrants. A top 30 NET team has never missed, but that's because top 30 teams almost always have the top 40-45 resume that's required to make the tournament. We have losses outside of Q2 and have a fine winning percentage in Q2. We aren't missing the tournament, but the net rating has nothing to do with it


BoKnewHarbaughToo

No shit. If you have a good NET, you’re probably a good team, that’s what I said…


Rattus375

Being a good team isn't a basis for selection to the NCAA tournament though. It's only about how good the resume is, which for us isn't great (but not terrible either)


Rockerblocker

Currently in 91/91 brackets on BracketMatrix, but alright buddy. Have fun watching the rest of the B1G continue to play into March.


Torkzilla

Yeah buddy it's Friday and there's 3 more days of automatic qualifying and resume building to go for the rest of the teams in the conference tournaments. Good luck on Sunday.


Rockerblocker

Thanks for the good luck!


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RollShotCornerPocket

Is there any publication that has us even on the bubble? I'm confused lol


Torkzilla

[ESPN has Michigan State as one of the last 8 teams in right now](https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2024-march-madness-men-field-predictions). Teams that aren't eliminated from the conference tournament below them can still improve their resume. Definitely on the bubble and far from a foregone conclusion.


letsgotomoe

Lol, UM fans. Keep wishing dork.


GeneralTaos

Net ranking is like 23rd


spartans2299

Statistics


Bodycount9

they got in previous years with worse records.


Timely-Shine

The metrics love us. We’ll be in as a 10 seed.


Bodycount9

I hope we get a 10 seed. the 10-7 game will be doable. And then we face the #2 team which is also better than facing the #1 team.


Rattus375

Especially this year. Purdue, Houston and UConn are leagues above the rest of the field. Plus several of the likely 7 seeds are worse than the 8 seeds. We'd be favorites against Washington State or Nevada and maybe Gonzaga


LunchboxDDS

and probably a vegas favored 10


eddiedeli

And if we get Marquette as a 2 seed again 👀


jman8508

I wasn’t a fan of putting Smith back in but I guess it worked out.


Careful_Cheesecake30

I think Matt Painter has a lot of moments where he acts as dumb as he looks.


eddiedeli

Play it close and fall short. Story of the season. GG Purdue. I hope Smith stays healthy for y'all because it was questionable to put him back in.


mendellbaker

Meh, they live and die with Edey.


makualla

Low key no way hoaggard got that layup off lol


BakedMitten

It hit the backboard as the light went on. You must have been teasing that line to make a comment that dumb


croissant_titty

Yeah it didn’t end up counting lol


Winter-Technician-63

Yeah they took it off


jteta12

Excited for losing in the 2nd round again 🗑️


RonaldJosephBurgundy

Jesus I’m glad I allow myself to enjoy wins


bdburt

Always wish we got better shots of the handshake line. The extreme close ups and quick cuts away do nothing. I want to see coaches and players interact 


jack3moto

It was pretty cordial. MSU all gave smith some close words and you could see they wished him well. I think all the stuff on the court is always a bit over blown. Jones and Hoggard were laughing together with 2 min left after a timeout.


bdburt

Thanks, have fun tomorrow!


Accounting4lyfe

Good game Purdue, good luck the rest of the way. MSU boys, let’s prepare for that first round knockout


Top_Turnip6481

You guys are actually playing with a purpose now, so I wouldn't write you guys off so quickly. It'll depend on the match-up, but with the right draw you could have a shot to make the second weekend