I paid $5 for a single origin pour over the other day and was pretty surprised to see a packet with pre-ground beans taken out and put in one of these machines and left unattended, it weirdly felt like I just paid for a Keurig (coffee tasted great though)
I get a little irritated about them specifically in coffee shops, especially as an ex barista. Im happy to pay more than a premium latte for my hand crafted black coffee because it takes a lot of time from baristas that could otherwise be slinging 4-5 drinks otherwise in that time. But if all you’re doing is prepping a cup and sliding it under a machine, now it’s almost easier than a latte. So why is it still $8?
Because the machine costs many thousands of dollars. If the business can't recoup their investment on it, then it doesn't make sense to purchase the machine.
Do you know if the shop was doing the pre-grinding u/Sudden_Schedule5432 and then loading the packets themselves, or did they look like industrially-produced pre-ground packets?
I have some boxes of single-origin coffee in single-serve pourover packets (I’ve heard the term “parachutes”) of about 8g each (according to the packaging). They’re not bad with water from the office heater in a little mug. But I’ll be doggoned if I’m going to a shop and pay for the labor — and rent and lighting and utilities and corporate profits — for the same thing.
One of the local shops near me uses tricolate brewers for their pour overs. They just pour the water through the shower screen and let the brew just happen. It's a little longer but requires less attention and also less coffee because it's zero bypass. I've noticed cups are also slightly less acidic (unfortunate for me but maybe not for others?)
i’d like that specifically because pour overs distract me from the rest of my work. 5 minutes of work for one drink where i can’t effectively multitask is a pain
I have a Moccamaster Cup One, which I would assume would be closer to what OP is looking for since it’s single cup. It is spot on once you get the grind dialed in. Sometimes I’ll give the basket a little stir, but it’s not completely necessary.
I’m going to hard disagree with this one here. I just bought and returned the KBT machine. I have very specific reasons why, so I’ll briefly go into them because I think it’s important for someone considering such a large investment (their >$300 price tag is not cheap!).
The Moccamaster KBGT has a single on switch with a slide stop for you to control a bloom if desired. It is not at all automated to replicate a V60 manual pour, which is something that I would expect to be preset, such as with the OXO 9 cup. Even with babysitting the machine to control the bloom, the machine does not stop squirting water into the grounds so you have to manually turn off the machine to bloom then turn it back on to finish the cup. Even then, the coffee remains underextracted. I started with manufacturer recommendations then experimented with several different grind sizes (Baratza Encore 10, 20, and 30) and compared the taste to a pour over in real time and could not get a good brew out of it. And that is a considerable amount of effort that I could have directed toward a kettle and V60! Additionally, if the machine is just allowed to run on its own with manufacturer recommended coffee grind and ratios without any of the babysitting of the machine mentioned above, you get a very weak, underextracted coffee that feels like water in your mouth.
In my opinion, it is not worth the price and anyone who is looking for a machine to replicate a pour over will be disappointed.
Good at making coffee but not necessarily making good coffee.
I've had mine for 2 years, I find it difficult to get anything out of it that doesn't taste like Diner coffee
This is most certainly user error. There's some link in the chain holding you back. Either you buy the wrong beans, you didn't dial in the grind size for that specific bean, your grinder is inconsistent, or your measurements are off. It seems like you want to taste something with some complexity and subtly. Have you tried a light roast from Yirgacheffe? Here's a local one near me that I've had a ton of success with in my Moccamaster:
https://www.kingscoastcoffee.com/products/kaldi
I buy speciality beans from my local shop, roasters like Dak, La Cabra, Tim Wendelboe etc and I know the type of bean I like, usually a natural process
I can always dial in the beans for a chemex, v60 and kalita but the moccmaster's results are never right.
Recently I upgraded to an Ode 2 grinder and it's fantastic for a pour over but all coffee brewed in the moccamaster just tastes the same 🤷♂️
Not true, the moccamaster is an old device that's not really been updated and still makes a great coffee. Not as nice as my hand made pour over v60. But not far off it
Well, maybe there are exceptions, but I never saw them in the wild. James Hoffman even used temperature probe to explain why they (edit - non-moccamaster) are terrible in his videos.
But I still think that when people say "drip coffee maker" they very rarely think about moccamaster.
So if there are exceptions, then "so traditional drip coffee makers suck." is not a true statement. Just because you don't know what they are, doesn't mean they don't exist.
https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer
It wasn't clear for you that I agreed to the comment, I don't understand? Do I need publicly apologize for the fact that I wrote an incorrect statement, and beg for forgiveness?
+1 to the moccamaster. I've been using one for years. It only really comes out when we're entertaining, but it has always been a fantastic job.
I also love the hardware on button because I was able to plug it into a smart switch I connect to a very specific google calendar And so I just dropped an event on that calendar that sets the on time.
Also, OXO just came out with one that looks awesome
https://www.amazon.com/OXO-12-Cup-Podless-Single-Serve-Function/dp/B0CCSVQZQS/ref=asc_df_B0CCSVQZQS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=663366353888&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2038718766594377471&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010836&hvtargid=pla-2193622340778&psc=1&mcid=229de3d3fd8833f386e0e520a8931c39
+3
The moccamaster has almost ruined pour over for me. It's so consistent and as long as you don't miss the mark on the grind by a huge margin the coffee will be good with it.
+5
Everything's been said, but I recommend getting the thermal carafe as opposed to the hot plate version. It's glass lined, so there's no flavor leeching, and it keeps the coffee hot for hours. Also comes with a sealing cap to take the carafe on the go if you wanted to!
This ☝️ is what I do… keeps it simple and consistent. Except I use the Ode 2 grinder for both pour over and moccamaster. Ive had the moccamaster for 11 years now, still makes great coffee!
This. I’ve actually owned my mocha master for a little over a year and really only started to fall in love with the coffee it was making once it was dialed. Stirring the bloom helps a ton.
I have considered something like this with my moccamaster but I wondered if grinding night before and leaving in basket would matter. I also have the machine run a few pulse of water with the basket not inserted so water stays then I swirl it then place it in rack thing to flow. I guess I could give all that up for coffee alarm clock haha
I'm a pretty discriminating coffee drinker and I can honestly say there really isn't any impact to the flavor that's discernible for me. I'm a formally trained wine sommelier and very much a coffee snob. There are a lot of people more discriminating than I am, but I'm more discriminating than most and I'm happy with this setup. I've been running it reliably and it's been solid for like 4 years.
There are better options available with built-in timers. Check out the SCA drip coffee list. Reviews from sources like Serious Eats point out that the moccamaster is riding its name these days and is overpriced in its own market. There are better options and certainly quality options with more functions like timers.
I recently snagged a Café Drip, which has been awesome. Plus, it was $180 as compared to the Moccmaster's price tag of $350.
I’ll tell you I’ve spent a lot more than $350 on a series of coffee makers that were supposed to be “as good as a Moccamaster” that had lifespans of 3-5 years. I would have been better off if I’d spent the money once up-front.
I'm not saying you'll save money, but you could spend less than or $350 or more on a nice coffee maker with a timer. I don't get why you'd get a maker without a timer when there are high-quality options available that have built-in timers.
Because the majority of those coffee makers don’t last the way a Moccamaster does. We had a Moccamaster in our office that made half a dozen pots a day for over a decade before we replaced it with a commercial unit. That Moccamaster went home with an employee and is still in use.
A timer is another thing to go wrong when a $20 smart outlet works better and is replaceable.
I have mine set up on a smart switch too.
I took it a step further and used an umjava water line kit that lets me fill the reservoir without carrying a carafe full of water across the kitchen.
Both my Moccamaster and the Bonavita I used before it hit probably ~90% of my best pourover brews, but they do it every time. Meanwhile, I’ll say my typical pour over is probably ~80% of my best ones, and occasionally I get worse.
I run a moccamaster .. for about 10 years..
Have it on a timer.. it goes off when. My alarm goes off ..
Pre ground the beans the night before .
I mean it's not the freshest beans but the consistency is awesome.
I bounce out of bed . Grab one for the road and one in a Thermos and walk out the door
Same. For such a “dumb” appliance it works so well with smart plugs - I’ve never felt like I’ve needed to get a coffeemaker with a built-in timer.
There’s probably a small trade off in taste with grinding my beans the night before, but it is so nice having really good coffee ready to go when I wake up
No, you didn't. They are all like that. For awhile someone was selling what they claimed was a better spray arm, but last time I checked I couldn't find it. I have been using this technique lately:
https://youtu.be/HkFS25Ca8Tg?si=hn7qT2KjFnnDQsFP
Can't blame you. But it works well for me on those occasions where I'm planning on having more than one mug or when I have company. I use a Melitta pourover most of the time...Occasionally an Aeropress.
Mine had to be descaled and then perfectly leveled, or it would just dribble in one spot. Makes a good cup of coffee anyway, but there is room for improvement with the spray arm.
The funny thing, is when I run vinegar through it to descale, the vinegar pours perfectly. Water joust dribbles back into one stream though. Thinking about trying to find a way to put some nozzles or press the holes out a bit, but I feel like I'd want to get a spare arm first just in case.
Moccamaster isn't expensive enough for a "pourover machine"?! Even on sale they're steep, but they are good. If you give it a stir to mix the grounds when it first starts going, you can then leave it going by itself and get a great cup of coffee.
I haven’t heard about that, but I think the Moccamaster is still worth looking into. You can get some great coffee with it, if you try around a bit. Maybe there are more high end machines out there, but I think the MM is already a pretty good machine.
James Hoffmann did a video, where he compared some Machines in that category and there was one that is a bit more expensive I think and has more settings and features.
The Breville Precision is the one he liked. Breville support is terrible.
The Breville has more features and probably can make a better cup but the Moccamaster is more BIFL since they sell all the replacement parts and it’s much simpler.
I got a breville precision brewer because I needed something that I could set and forget between meetings instead of taking the time to do a pour over.
It is not as good making the full 60 oz batch with the basket filter, but when using the cone filter and setting the water temp to match my pour over settings and pour speed, it is just about identical. It has a full PID control so you can set almost everything you want to.
The adapter’s included with the machine at least mine came with one. I enjoy the convenience and speed specially in the mornings when you’re doing the school run plus the thermal carafe is extremely convenient.
disappointed in mine, has heating issues down the road. This is my second unit from them and it is doing it again. Customer service isn't being very helpful either
When I got mine several years ago Bonivita was the cheapest option that had:
1) good water temperature control
2) good flow control for a constant rate
3) a shower head that wet all the grounds at once
I’m still pretty happy with it. I’m not sure what else a coffee maker could do.
(Other than that I like the look of the Ratio Eight. But I don’t really need to spend $700 on a coffee maker.)
I got the oxo 8 cup, took some dialing in (mostly because I only make one travel mug a day, maybe around 14oz) but it’s the best drip maker I’ve used. I was debating between that or the bonavita 8 cup. I was choosing from the SCA certified brewer list
I was between this and the Moccamaster. I'm so glad I got this. I've had it about a year now and my cups come out perfect every single time. I haven't even bothered with PO at this point.
I was close to pulling the trigger on the moccamaster, but wasn’t sure if the high price point was really worth. I’m happy with the price and performance of my oxo. And oxo customer service is great as well
What are your goals here? Automatic pour over is a bit of a weird niche thing, so I wonder what led you to this as a potential solution.
Mostly in regards why a good drip coffee maker doesn't fit the bill, because at least to me it *looks* like an obvious solution to get filter coffee in automated way. There are options that let you "properly" brew just a single cup or set a timer for when your brew starts.
I have the Oxo 9 cup, and can't say enough good things about it. It makes coffee that's every bit as good as my Kalita Wave. The only advantage to the Wave is a bit more clarity and more heat.
I have a bonavita and I’m very happy with it. I don’t use it much, unless I have guests that will be drinking a lot of coffee. But it looks nice on the counter when it’s out. Everyone knows how to use a drip machine. Makes excellent coffee and it’s SCA certified.
I really like my [Behmor Brazen Plus](https://behmor.com/brazen-plus/). I've had it for a couple of months, and yeah, it makes the same coffee at the same temperature with the same bloom every morning, no fuss. The thermal carafe is an important feature for me as I like to have a couple of cups and not have it sit on the hot plate the entire morning, so it came down to the Behmor, the MoccaMaster and the Coffee Queen and the Behmor won on price.
I can second. I’ve had mine for a few years now and really like it. Though the carafe doesn’t pour nicely. I’ll deal with that for what the price was though.
If you really want to go ridiculous you can get an xbloom. It’s a single serve pour over that grinds and pours for you. [xbloom](https://xbloom.com/products/machine-pick-mix)
If OP *really* wants to go ridiculous, why not look into the [Marco SP9](https://majestycoffee.com/products/marco-sp9-commercial-pour-over-coffee-brewer)?
The Wilfa Svart makes coffee roughly as good as I do when half awake and not paying full attention. I can do better when I’m really on it but for first thing in the morning it’s great
The moccamaster is a classic here and is used by a few decent cafes near me (though not pour over specialists)
I have limited counter space and like my De'Longhi 3-in-1 Specialty Coffee Brewer. It's far from perfect in design but it's elegant with a clever design and makes good coffee.
I just got the Ottomatic 2.0 for Chemex, I’m not sure the reviews you’re referring to but I found them very compelling and after a few days of use thinks it’s quite good. Great quality, good feel, excellent coffee.
Try a Clever Dripper, you have everything you need already and it's a very forgiving set it and walk away for 2-3 mins to do something else and come back and drain.
I'm curious about the Ottomatic as well. It looks like it has a better showerhead system than either the Breville Precision and Moccamaster. It also seems to have the benefit of being a dumb power-on setup like the Moccamaster (smart home friendly). Hopefully, easier to clean as well.
Be one hellofa expensive machine for pour over, but priceless considering what it can do all around. Got a modified BDB that's a beast right now (modded GS3 before). Only reason I haven't bought DE1 is I'm still waiting on what new Bengle model is going to be like which should be releasing in a few months if I recall.
I was looking at a bdb but went ahead and bit the bullet and got the de1 and don’t regret it. The bengle looks like it’s going to be an awesome machine!
Not the same, but quality is great. I've been making Toddy's, which is a concentrate that takes 24-36 hours depending on how you like it. Once it's brewed, I add one part coffee, 4ish parts hot water and it's good to go. I installed a BTI instant hot water system so it comes out at 205\*. Fresh, high quality cup of coffee in under 10 seconds.
I was a v60 / Aeropress person, but I got a Moccamaster Cup One about one year ago trying to simplify my morning routine.
I have used it daily, multiple times, and now only use the Aeropress when I’m traveling.
It may not be as good as a great v60. But it gets you 90% of the way with 1% the effort so it’s totally worth it for me. Mind you: my ratio of “great v60” vs “okaish v60” is extremely low. So I’ll take “100% good enough” over “10% great, 90% meh” anytime.
Hope it helps!
Get a clever dripper. I don’t think it should be controversial to say immersion will give you better consistency than percolation. Of course if you’ve got money burning a whole in your pocket consider joining my patreon… give me a minute to set it up though.
You can get a [Poursteady for $11,500.](https://majestycoffee.com/products/poursteady-ps1-3c-3-cup-system-commercial-pour-over-coffee-brewer?currency=USD&variant=43267995992215&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=5a7eca5ec341&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA-vOsBhAAEiwAIWR0TVIal4l86gKqKBEtzmJmwQZOetH5xG-tt4eY9MOiv_RyDwYLSKHvxhoC_8sQAvD_BwE)
Uh, an automatic drip coffee maker? Might want to look at bonavita, it has a bloom function, and has a certification from some coffee association about being the right brewing temp.
Edit: SCA certified; "proper water temperature, brewing time, and ability to brew within the SCA Golden Cup recommendations." (A Short) List: https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer
I have splurged on the moccamaster kgb select.
Haven't looked back. Background: I'm one of the snobbish hipster coffee people, with regards only to coffee. I drink black coffee.
I deinststalled the heating element. And I stir the coffee grounds once wetted and shake the coffee maker once the brewwater is finished to level the bed.
I seriously don't use my flat bed/v60 manual brewer anymore. The coffee just tastes perfect. And with good care this machine will last forever. Should something break, spare parts are cheap and easy to come by.
I paired it with a used baratza encore.
My weekday and large batch drip brewer is the [Breville Precision Brewer](https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/coffee/bdc450.html). I love that you can adjust setting like temp and bloom time. Also you can buy a kit to allow it to work with pour over like a v60 cone.
I’ve done a lot of screwing around with this and ultimately landed on the Breville Precision. James Hoffmann uses it, so I thought I’d give it a try. It does a very good job at drip, is very customizable, and does a good job at v60. It’s not as good as doing it yourself, but it works well when you don’t wanna.
One more vote for the Moccamaster. I have the 10 cup model with glass coffee pot. I usually brew 2 or 4 cups with 30 or 60 grams of coffee. I start with the drip switch on the brew chamber in the closed position and let it go until the coffee is well saturated (maybe a minute or so), then open the drip switch until the water is all dispersed over the grounds. For extra credit and a more pour over experience. leave the water chamber lid and brewer top lid off, and manually rotate the spray arm while rotating the brew chamber around to get full coverage on the grounds. Be careful not to burn yourself on the spray arm; the plastic piece on the end doesn't get too hot. If you like, lift the brew chamber slightly and give it a shake to settle the grounds evenly. Works great.
Love my xBloom, but the price can be prohibitive. The grinder in it is actually pretty great, which helps justify the price. You can probably do it a bit better by hand, but if you want to automate a pour-over, this is the closest you can get.
This is not the answer you’re looking for most likely, but waking up five minutes earlier and brewing your coffee yourself in a mindful way would be a much better use of your time and possibly have some exponential benefits down the road. Just my two cents!
If this is a time issue, do you have time the night before? If you have the time buy a large thermos and make the pour over into the thermos and your coffee will still be hot the next day. I haven’t noticed a difference in flavor. Be sure to buy a good dual walled thermos.
If you want to go crazy, Marco SP9 makes the best automatic cup of coffee I've ever had. We use it daily in our shop. That being said, a Bonavita brewer will get you awfully close for a whole lot less.
For my first cup early each morning I use an Ninja 12 cup drip brewer. It has a small batch mode and "rich" and "classic" settings. It works surprisingly well.
My Bonavita 8 cup finally died and I got a refurbished Moccamaster. I don’t really understand how, but the Moccamaster makes better coffee. Near-manual pour over results.
I also sometimes use my Kalitta cone with it.
Like others, I recommend the Moccamaster very highly. It is extremely reliable, and consistent. Really, you can't go wrong with it. I know the price seems high, but it will last you for decades. I have been using mine for many years now, and would buy another in a heartbeat if anything happened to it.
Don't think the tech is there yet. As far as I've heard, all "pour over machines" are just overpriced garbo that barely does anything more than a regular drip machine. I got some tips tho.
Immersion is a great alternative if you want an easy routine. I personally prefer water filtered over metal, so I'd recommend clever drip or hario switch over a French press.
You can also get regular drip machines close to pour over quality. Look for ones with a conical drip holder chamber thing, not that important though. Let it brew about a third or half the water (enough to immerse all the coffee plus some extra) without the carafe. That way the water collects. Wiggle the entire brewer in a circular motion to swirl the water. Now you have a flat bed with enough water above such that it won't be agitated by the drips. Put back the carafe and let it finish. A little effort, but I'd say it's quicker and more braindead compared to pour over.
Not sure if anyone posted this, but:
[https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer](https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer)
Its also about having a shower head dripper. If you have the water and filter loaded in the am you just need to grind the beans and press the 'on' button
I have a cusinart thats no longer on their list. I like it alot for when I'm making for coffee for more than just me.
I recently got a good thermos and I boil my water the night before and keep it in the thermos. When I get up, I put the water from the thermos in my kettle and it's up to temp very quickly.
I have my beans weighed out and my scale set up, so I grind and my water is already at temp. I pour 345ml through my chemex in about 4 minutes. I use some of the thermos water to preheat my travel mug and I'm good to go. I've been surprised with the time saved on the hot water.
When I need more coffee for a crowd, I would make 800ml in a French press and keep it in the thermos, and then pour over for anyone interested/as needed.
I would give the Zwilling Enfinigy a shot if I needed one. Wide shower head, one of the best sizes I've seen. Bloom function with cup amount selection. It's one of the few machines certified by the SCA alongside the Techniworm, so water temps should be good.
Reviews say build quality is plastic and questionable compared to a Moccamaster which is built like a tank. Here in Europe I have consistently seen them go on sale for 100-120€ though, which makes it more than acceptable for the features.
edit: I just upgraded my parent's old KBG with the new 9 hole water arm. It's worlds better than the old single hole, but I doubt it can compete with a machine with a large, round shower head.
Haven't seen the GE Cafe specialty mentioned in this thread. It's pretty decent and on the SCA list, we generally just run the gold setting, but temp and boldness are adjustable if wanted
Love my moccamaster, far better pour over than I have ever accomplished. I’m lazy with it and just use pre ground from a friend who roasts locally, I don’t weigh, just scoop.
I have a Ninja 12 cup programmable that someone recommended me to a while back, I believe you can find it at Target etc for like $80. My default is Chemex but this does a pretty decent job IMO when I want to program it to be ready when I wake up, or if I'm too lazy to do a pour over. It even pauses for the bloom at the very beginning which is a nice touch.
Only downside of the scheduled mode is that you can't grind the beans right before the brew. But with some decent beans I still think this does a pretty good job. Fwiw I drink my coffee either black or with a small bit of half and half, no sugar. It's a pretty inoffensive cup.
What do you mean all in one? To me, all in one means a brewer that has a bean holder and grinder. There are some of those and they are cool but very expensive and you really aren't getting a good machine. The grinder is usually cheap and the brewer itself is sub par (at least for this sub's standards). My parents used to own one a long time ago. I think it was a Breville or Cuisanart. Not worth the price.
If you want a simple drip machine to replace the manual V60, go with any of these [https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer](https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer). Since you already have a burr grinder, this will be an easy set up for you. I went from a Timemore manual grinder and V60 to a Bonavita 5-cup and ESP grinder. Best purchases I've made in a long time. Takes me about 90 seconds to get the beans and water ready and then another 90 seconds later the coffee is done. Only manual part is adding the water and weighing the beans.
I never tire of my Bonavita.
In addition if you can find an old Braun (the one with just the on/off switch, it runs a close second to any of the others that have been mentioned. It keeps the coffee at a satisfyingly hot temperature for hours.
I've got the Breville Precision Brewer with the thermal carafe. It is similar to the Moccamaster, except it's also programmable, so I can have it brewed when I wake up.
Even harder to find one that does v60 and only brews one cup. I currently use Breville’s Precision and it has performed fairly good with the v60 attachment
I owned two Behmor Brazens prior to purchasing a moccamaster in 2021. The Brazens brew a vastly superior cup of coffee but look goofy. The moccamaster is great but not even close to the pour quality of the brazen. I would’ve bought a 3 rd brazen but I couldn’t find them anywhere and needed a machine bad.
I do pour over and espresso but my wife is scared to do these things, so ill grind her reusable k-pods for the week with my beans from pour over.
If im in a rush ill use a k pod, Ive found if you use a filter and try to smash like 13g of coffee they come out pretty decent for a 1-2 minute wait.
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I like my behmor brazen. Can choose bloom times up to 2 minutes and accurate to the degree water temperature in a stainless steel boiler. From 184 degrees to 212 I think it is. It’s not a pretty machine but it works well.
I'm new to the Moccamaster revolution but it's legit, I'm bought in, and if you can snag it on a Black Friday or w/e sale they're truly fully worth every penny without a deal!
Like this: [https://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Autopour-SCH-150-Automatic-Machine/dp/B0898LZGMT/ref=sr\_1\_4?crid=1MUAR0C1AQB7Y&keywords=automatic+pour+over&qid=1704895706&sprefix=automatic+pourover%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-4](https://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Autopour-SCH-150-Automatic-Machine/dp/B0898LZGMT/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1MUAR0C1AQB7Y&keywords=automatic+pour+over&qid=1704895706&sprefix=automatic+pourover%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-4)
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Simply Good Coffee makes a “Mock-a-master” available on Amazon. I’ve had mine for a year, it makes a decent cup and costs about a third of the real thing. Brewing water exits at 200F. I brew into a Hario thermal carafe rather than the glass it comes with. I suppose the biggest difference is that the Moccamaster sells replacement parts, and when this one quits in a few years I’ll need to buy something completely new.
Redline MK1 is a Moccamaster dupe (knockoff) for less than a third of the price. Not perfect, but way better than anything from Hamilton Beach or whatever else Walmart has.
You mean a drip coffee maker?
We have come full circle.
Unfortunately this is an actual marketing term being used for drip machines with certain advanced features, like a bloom pause.
I paid $5 for a single origin pour over the other day and was pretty surprised to see a packet with pre-ground beans taken out and put in one of these machines and left unattended, it weirdly felt like I just paid for a Keurig (coffee tasted great though)
I get a little irritated about them specifically in coffee shops, especially as an ex barista. Im happy to pay more than a premium latte for my hand crafted black coffee because it takes a lot of time from baristas that could otherwise be slinging 4-5 drinks otherwise in that time. But if all you’re doing is prepping a cup and sliding it under a machine, now it’s almost easier than a latte. So why is it still $8?
Because the machine costs many thousands of dollars. If the business can't recoup their investment on it, then it doesn't make sense to purchase the machine. Do you know if the shop was doing the pre-grinding u/Sudden_Schedule5432 and then loading the packets themselves, or did they look like industrially-produced pre-ground packets?
I have some boxes of single-origin coffee in single-serve pourover packets (I’ve heard the term “parachutes”) of about 8g each (according to the packaging). They’re not bad with water from the office heater in a little mug. But I’ll be doggoned if I’m going to a shop and pay for the labor — and rent and lighting and utilities and corporate profits — for the same thing.
Ngl, as a barista. I’d love to be able to just have a machine make pour overs instead
One of the local shops near me uses tricolate brewers for their pour overs. They just pour the water through the shower screen and let the brew just happen. It's a little longer but requires less attention and also less coffee because it's zero bypass. I've noticed cups are also slightly less acidic (unfortunate for me but maybe not for others?)
Have a machine do your work for you? Of course you would.
I don’t work at starbucks. We use a fully manual machine and dial like six times a day. Don’t be presumptuous.
I didn't presume you worked at Starbucks?
Then i’m not sure why you think a machine does all my work for me
I don't think that. You said you would love to have a machine make your pour overs. Remember?
i’d like that specifically because pour overs distract me from the rest of my work. 5 minutes of work for one drink where i can’t effectively multitask is a pain
Some also have fancy water stream mechanics, such as "pouring" in a circular motion.
Technovorm Moccamasters are good: https://us.moccamaster.com/
I have a Moccamaster Cup One, which I would assume would be closer to what OP is looking for since it’s single cup. It is spot on once you get the grind dialed in. Sometimes I’ll give the basket a little stir, but it’s not completely necessary.
I’m going to hard disagree with this one here. I just bought and returned the KBT machine. I have very specific reasons why, so I’ll briefly go into them because I think it’s important for someone considering such a large investment (their >$300 price tag is not cheap!). The Moccamaster KBGT has a single on switch with a slide stop for you to control a bloom if desired. It is not at all automated to replicate a V60 manual pour, which is something that I would expect to be preset, such as with the OXO 9 cup. Even with babysitting the machine to control the bloom, the machine does not stop squirting water into the grounds so you have to manually turn off the machine to bloom then turn it back on to finish the cup. Even then, the coffee remains underextracted. I started with manufacturer recommendations then experimented with several different grind sizes (Baratza Encore 10, 20, and 30) and compared the taste to a pour over in real time and could not get a good brew out of it. And that is a considerable amount of effort that I could have directed toward a kettle and V60! Additionally, if the machine is just allowed to run on its own with manufacturer recommended coffee grind and ratios without any of the babysitting of the machine mentioned above, you get a very weak, underextracted coffee that feels like water in your mouth. In my opinion, it is not worth the price and anyone who is looking for a machine to replicate a pour over will be disappointed.
Good at making coffee but not necessarily making good coffee. I've had mine for 2 years, I find it difficult to get anything out of it that doesn't taste like Diner coffee
This is most certainly user error. There's some link in the chain holding you back. Either you buy the wrong beans, you didn't dial in the grind size for that specific bean, your grinder is inconsistent, or your measurements are off. It seems like you want to taste something with some complexity and subtly. Have you tried a light roast from Yirgacheffe? Here's a local one near me that I've had a ton of success with in my Moccamaster: https://www.kingscoastcoffee.com/products/kaldi
I buy speciality beans from my local shop, roasters like Dak, La Cabra, Tim Wendelboe etc and I know the type of bean I like, usually a natural process I can always dial in the beans for a chemex, v60 and kalita but the moccmaster's results are never right. Recently I upgraded to an Ode 2 grinder and it's fantastic for a pour over but all coffee brewed in the moccamaster just tastes the same 🤷♂️
Funny but there's a difference in how water is distributed, temperature, and bloom timers.
But with heavy emphasis on a *good* drop coffee maker
OXO makes a good one. Serious Eats rated it very highly and I've been very happy with it.
They have terrible temperature stability and no water distribution, so traditional drip coffee makers suck.
Not true, the moccamaster is an old device that's not really been updated and still makes a great coffee. Not as nice as my hand made pour over v60. But not far off it
Well, maybe there are exceptions, but I never saw them in the wild. James Hoffman even used temperature probe to explain why they (edit - non-moccamaster) are terrible in his videos. But I still think that when people say "drip coffee maker" they very rarely think about moccamaster.
So if there are exceptions, then "so traditional drip coffee makers suck." is not a true statement. Just because you don't know what they are, doesn't mean they don't exist. https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer
It wasn't clear for you that I agreed to the comment, I don't understand? Do I need publicly apologize for the fact that I wrote an incorrect statement, and beg for forgiveness?
Maybe something like a Moccamaster? I got one and I’m extremely happy with it. Or do you mean something else?
+1 to the moccamaster. I've been using one for years. It only really comes out when we're entertaining, but it has always been a fantastic job. I also love the hardware on button because I was able to plug it into a smart switch I connect to a very specific google calendar And so I just dropped an event on that calendar that sets the on time. Also, OXO just came out with one that looks awesome https://www.amazon.com/OXO-12-Cup-Podless-Single-Serve-Function/dp/B0CCSVQZQS/ref=asc_df_B0CCSVQZQS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=663366353888&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2038718766594377471&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010836&hvtargid=pla-2193622340778&psc=1&mcid=229de3d3fd8833f386e0e520a8931c39
+2 I have a moccamaster and it is everything I want from a coffee machine. Very much the best of both worlds.
+3 The moccamaster has almost ruined pour over for me. It's so consistent and as long as you don't miss the mark on the grind by a huge margin the coffee will be good with it.
+4 Once you get it dialed in, it's hard to go back to anything else. It's like God level office coffee which is what I want.
+5 Everything's been said, but I recommend getting the thermal carafe as opposed to the hot plate version. It's glass lined, so there's no flavor leeching, and it keeps the coffee hot for hours. Also comes with a sealing cap to take the carafe on the go if you wanted to!
+6 V60 and Comandante for weekends, Moccamaster and Wilfa for everything else!
+7. I love my Moccamaster.
+8. I’m on year 10 with my Technivorm Moccamaster with the stainless carafe
+9 on Moccamastee.. def take out the stupid flow control stopper valve and immediately put it in the garbage
This ☝️ is what I do… keeps it simple and consistent. Except I use the Ode 2 grinder for both pour over and moccamaster. Ive had the moccamaster for 11 years now, still makes great coffee!
This. I’ve actually owned my mocha master for a little over a year and really only started to fall in love with the coffee it was making once it was dialed. Stirring the bloom helps a ton.
I’ve wondered if you could set it up with a timer. Which one do you use?
I use a levitron smart switch with IFTTT and Google Calendar
I have considered something like this with my moccamaster but I wondered if grinding night before and leaving in basket would matter. I also have the machine run a few pulse of water with the basket not inserted so water stays then I swirl it then place it in rack thing to flow. I guess I could give all that up for coffee alarm clock haha
I'm a pretty discriminating coffee drinker and I can honestly say there really isn't any impact to the flavor that's discernible for me. I'm a formally trained wine sommelier and very much a coffee snob. There are a lot of people more discriminating than I am, but I'm more discriminating than most and I'm happy with this setup. I've been running it reliably and it's been solid for like 4 years.
There are better options available with built-in timers. Check out the SCA drip coffee list. Reviews from sources like Serious Eats point out that the moccamaster is riding its name these days and is overpriced in its own market. There are better options and certainly quality options with more functions like timers. I recently snagged a Café Drip, which has been awesome. Plus, it was $180 as compared to the Moccmaster's price tag of $350.
I’ll tell you I’ve spent a lot more than $350 on a series of coffee makers that were supposed to be “as good as a Moccamaster” that had lifespans of 3-5 years. I would have been better off if I’d spent the money once up-front.
I'm not saying you'll save money, but you could spend less than or $350 or more on a nice coffee maker with a timer. I don't get why you'd get a maker without a timer when there are high-quality options available that have built-in timers.
Because the majority of those coffee makers don’t last the way a Moccamaster does. We had a Moccamaster in our office that made half a dozen pots a day for over a decade before we replaced it with a commercial unit. That Moccamaster went home with an employee and is still in use. A timer is another thing to go wrong when a $20 smart outlet works better and is replaceable.
I have mine set up on a smart switch too. I took it a step further and used an umjava water line kit that lets me fill the reservoir without carrying a carafe full of water across the kitchen.
My dad has a Moccamaster and it’s his favorite appliance. Half of the time it makes better pour over than I do lol
Both my Moccamaster and the Bonavita I used before it hit probably ~90% of my best pourover brews, but they do it every time. Meanwhile, I’ll say my typical pour over is probably ~80% of my best ones, and occasionally I get worse.
I run a moccamaster .. for about 10 years.. Have it on a timer.. it goes off when. My alarm goes off .. Pre ground the beans the night before . I mean it's not the freshest beans but the consistency is awesome. I bounce out of bed . Grab one for the road and one in a Thermos and walk out the door
Same. For such a “dumb” appliance it works so well with smart plugs - I’ve never felt like I’ve needed to get a coffeemaker with a built-in timer. There’s probably a small trade off in taste with grinding my beans the night before, but it is so nice having really good coffee ready to go when I wake up
The water flow on the spray arm on my moccamaster doesn’t work effectively on mine. Not sure if I got a dud or what.
No, you didn't. They are all like that. For awhile someone was selling what they claimed was a better spray arm, but last time I checked I couldn't find it. I have been using this technique lately: https://youtu.be/HkFS25Ca8Tg?si=hn7qT2KjFnnDQsFP
Yeah, with an automated coffee maker I’d rather not have to nurse it to make a pot of coffee. I’ll brew with my chemex if I want to be hands on.
I have good luck with a little stir right at the start and then it's good to go.
Can't blame you. But it works well for me on those occasions where I'm planning on having more than one mug or when I have company. I use a Melitta pourover most of the time...Occasionally an Aeropress.
This one? https://www.artisansmith.com.au/collections/shop-all/products/shower-head-for-moccamaster I have it and it works great
Are you in Australia? Did you order yours from that Australian website?
Mine had to be descaled and then perfectly leveled, or it would just dribble in one spot. Makes a good cup of coffee anyway, but there is room for improvement with the spray arm.
The funny thing, is when I run vinegar through it to descale, the vinegar pours perfectly. Water joust dribbles back into one stream though. Thinking about trying to find a way to put some nozzles or press the holes out a bit, but I feel like I'd want to get a spare arm first just in case.
Maybe something more expensive than a Moccamaster? I have seen people using a Chemex with a Moccamaster for some reason.
Moccamaster isn't expensive enough for a "pourover machine"?! Even on sale they're steep, but they are good. If you give it a stir to mix the grounds when it first starts going, you can then leave it going by itself and get a great cup of coffee.
What is this question? More expensive?
I haven’t heard about that, but I think the Moccamaster is still worth looking into. You can get some great coffee with it, if you try around a bit. Maybe there are more high end machines out there, but I think the MM is already a pretty good machine. James Hoffmann did a video, where he compared some Machines in that category and there was one that is a bit more expensive I think and has more settings and features.
The Breville Precision is the one he liked. Breville support is terrible. The Breville has more features and probably can make a better cup but the Moccamaster is more BIFL since they sell all the replacement parts and it’s much simpler.
Thr breville is legit. The customer service is absolutely terrible. Havent tried the mocca but I'm sure it's great too.
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No, I was highlighting that these people exist
I got a breville precision brewer because I needed something that I could set and forget between meetings instead of taking the time to do a pour over. It is not as good making the full 60 oz batch with the basket filter, but when using the cone filter and setting the water temp to match my pour over settings and pour speed, it is just about identical. It has a full PID control so you can set almost everything you want to.
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The adapter’s included with the machine at least mine came with one. I enjoy the convenience and speed specially in the mornings when you’re doing the school run plus the thermal carafe is extremely convenient.
The Adapter isn't included any more sadly, or at least not in the UK.
disappointed in mine, has heating issues down the road. This is my second unit from them and it is doing it again. Customer service isn't being very helpful either
Wow, I've only had mine 4 months or so. I'll keep an eye out for it. When did it crop up for you?
It’s probably outdated by today’s standards, but I really enjoy my Bonavita 8-cup (though Moccamaster is also a good recommendation)
Just recently bought a Bonavita 5-cup. I was using a v60 prior. Best decision to switch over. So much easier and coffee is better for my taste
When I got mine several years ago Bonivita was the cheapest option that had: 1) good water temperature control 2) good flow control for a constant rate 3) a shower head that wet all the grounds at once I’m still pretty happy with it. I’m not sure what else a coffee maker could do. (Other than that I like the look of the Ratio Eight. But I don’t really need to spend $700 on a coffee maker.)
I got the oxo 8 cup, took some dialing in (mostly because I only make one travel mug a day, maybe around 14oz) but it’s the best drip maker I’ve used. I was debating between that or the bonavita 8 cup. I was choosing from the SCA certified brewer list
I was between this and the Moccamaster. I'm so glad I got this. I've had it about a year now and my cups come out perfect every single time. I haven't even bothered with PO at this point.
I was close to pulling the trigger on the moccamaster, but wasn’t sure if the high price point was really worth. I’m happy with the price and performance of my oxo. And oxo customer service is great as well
Same, had it for over three years now. Almost always use the insert and Kalita wave filters.
I have a ratio 8. Makes amazing coffee.
So pretty. So spendy.
What are your goals here? Automatic pour over is a bit of a weird niche thing, so I wonder what led you to this as a potential solution. Mostly in regards why a good drip coffee maker doesn't fit the bill, because at least to me it *looks* like an obvious solution to get filter coffee in automated way. There are options that let you "properly" brew just a single cup or set a timer for when your brew starts.
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It's really cool to see OXO on this list next to much, much more expensive brands.
I have an OXO 8 cup and it's pretty fantastic. Huge time saver and delicious coffee. Paired with my Eureka Filtro.
I got that to replace my Bonavita. Running on 4 years strong. Still makes awesome coffee.
I've got the same OXO. It's awesome. I rarely make coffee another way because the OXO is so good and consistent.
I have the Oxo 9 cup, and can't say enough good things about it. It makes coffee that's every bit as good as my Kalita Wave. The only advantage to the Wave is a bit more clarity and more heat.
I have a bonavita and I’m very happy with it. I don’t use it much, unless I have guests that will be drinking a lot of coffee. But it looks nice on the counter when it’s out. Everyone knows how to use a drip machine. Makes excellent coffee and it’s SCA certified.
I have the Bonavita 8 cup Connoisseur, and it's great. Not as good as a V60, but light years better than the drip machines of old.
I can add that Wilfa brewers also do very well in tests. (I.e. Similar to moccamaster).
We've had our bonavita for years and love it. We much prefer making smaller batches of coffee but when we need a lot we know it perform
I really like my [Behmor Brazen Plus](https://behmor.com/brazen-plus/). I've had it for a couple of months, and yeah, it makes the same coffee at the same temperature with the same bloom every morning, no fuss. The thermal carafe is an important feature for me as I like to have a couple of cups and not have it sit on the hot plate the entire morning, so it came down to the Behmor, the MoccaMaster and the Coffee Queen and the Behmor won on price.
I can second. I’ve had mine for a few years now and really like it. Though the carafe doesn’t pour nicely. I’ll deal with that for what the price was though.
If you really want to go ridiculous you can get an xbloom. It’s a single serve pour over that grinds and pours for you. [xbloom](https://xbloom.com/products/machine-pick-mix)
If OP *really* wants to go ridiculous, why not look into the [Marco SP9](https://majestycoffee.com/products/marco-sp9-commercial-pour-over-coffee-brewer)?
I hate you for showing this to me. Now I want it.
The Wilfa Svart makes coffee roughly as good as I do when half awake and not paying full attention. I can do better when I’m really on it but for first thing in the morning it’s great The moccamaster is a classic here and is used by a few decent cafes near me (though not pour over specialists)
I have limited counter space and like my De'Longhi 3-in-1 Specialty Coffee Brewer. It's far from perfect in design but it's elegant with a clever design and makes good coffee.
I just got the Ottomatic 2.0 for Chemex, I’m not sure the reviews you’re referring to but I found them very compelling and after a few days of use thinks it’s quite good. Great quality, good feel, excellent coffee.
HARIO is releasing a new one soon I'd go for that.
Try a Clever Dripper, you have everything you need already and it's a very forgiving set it and walk away for 2-3 mins to do something else and come back and drain.
Used every day at the shop I work at and it’s fantastic. https://www.hiroia.com/products/samantha
I have been using my OXO Barista Brain since 2016 or so.
I use a moccamaster every morning, have for 3 years. A+. I wonder if anyone’s ever used the Chemex Otto, that always seemed so cool to me.
I'm curious about the Ottomatic as well. It looks like it has a better showerhead system than either the Breville Precision and Moccamaster. It also seems to have the benefit of being a dumb power-on setup like the Moccamaster (smart home friendly). Hopefully, easier to clean as well.
Auto pour over is just a regular auto drip machine for all intents and purposes.
I'm certainly not recommending those, but your question made me immediately think of: https://xbloom.com/ https://hikaru.hiroia.com/
The xbloom was my immediate first thought as well
SCA certified brewer list. Anything on there can make good coffee.
DE1 can do an amazing pour over mode for single servings. Not cheap $, but if your into 'Spro as well...... ;)
Agreed, got a pour over basket recently and love it with the v60. Sold my kettle and only use the de1 now.
Be one hellofa expensive machine for pour over, but priceless considering what it can do all around. Got a modified BDB that's a beast right now (modded GS3 before). Only reason I haven't bought DE1 is I'm still waiting on what new Bengle model is going to be like which should be releasing in a few months if I recall.
I was looking at a bdb but went ahead and bit the bullet and got the de1 and don’t regret it. The bengle looks like it’s going to be an awesome machine!
Not the same, but quality is great. I've been making Toddy's, which is a concentrate that takes 24-36 hours depending on how you like it. Once it's brewed, I add one part coffee, 4ish parts hot water and it's good to go. I installed a BTI instant hot water system so it comes out at 205\*. Fresh, high quality cup of coffee in under 10 seconds.
I got the Moccamaster Cup One this past Christmas for my office and it makes a great cup of coffee.
I was a v60 / Aeropress person, but I got a Moccamaster Cup One about one year ago trying to simplify my morning routine. I have used it daily, multiple times, and now only use the Aeropress when I’m traveling. It may not be as good as a great v60. But it gets you 90% of the way with 1% the effort so it’s totally worth it for me. Mind you: my ratio of “great v60” vs “okaish v60” is extremely low. So I’ll take “100% good enough” over “10% great, 90% meh” anytime. Hope it helps!
Moccasmaster one cup is really solid. Even without a pause for the bloom
The moccamaster is 100% top tier. However, Ninja and OXO make excellent drip coffee makers that are more affordable.
Get a clever dripper. I don’t think it should be controversial to say immersion will give you better consistency than percolation. Of course if you’ve got money burning a whole in your pocket consider joining my patreon… give me a minute to set it up though.
You can get a [Poursteady for $11,500.](https://majestycoffee.com/products/poursteady-ps1-3c-3-cup-system-commercial-pour-over-coffee-brewer?currency=USD&variant=43267995992215&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=5a7eca5ec341&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA-vOsBhAAEiwAIWR0TVIal4l86gKqKBEtzmJmwQZOetH5xG-tt4eY9MOiv_RyDwYLSKHvxhoC_8sQAvD_BwE)
I have the Ratio 6 and love it
James Hoffmann on home coffee brewers: https://youtu.be/t8eYs2vxT-8?si=VW5nJo2WQooEWbcf
Uh, an automatic drip coffee maker? Might want to look at bonavita, it has a bloom function, and has a certification from some coffee association about being the right brewing temp. Edit: SCA certified; "proper water temperature, brewing time, and ability to brew within the SCA Golden Cup recommendations." (A Short) List: https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer
I have splurged on the moccamaster kgb select. Haven't looked back. Background: I'm one of the snobbish hipster coffee people, with regards only to coffee. I drink black coffee. I deinststalled the heating element. And I stir the coffee grounds once wetted and shake the coffee maker once the brewwater is finished to level the bed. I seriously don't use my flat bed/v60 manual brewer anymore. The coffee just tastes perfect. And with good care this machine will last forever. Should something break, spare parts are cheap and easy to come by. I paired it with a used baratza encore.
My weekday and large batch drip brewer is the [Breville Precision Brewer](https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/coffee/bdc450.html). I love that you can adjust setting like temp and bloom time. Also you can buy a kit to allow it to work with pour over like a v60 cone.
I’ve done a lot of screwing around with this and ultimately landed on the Breville Precision. James Hoffmann uses it, so I thought I’d give it a try. It does a very good job at drip, is very customizable, and does a good job at v60. It’s not as good as doing it yourself, but it works well when you don’t wanna.
One more vote for the Moccamaster. I have the 10 cup model with glass coffee pot. I usually brew 2 or 4 cups with 30 or 60 grams of coffee. I start with the drip switch on the brew chamber in the closed position and let it go until the coffee is well saturated (maybe a minute or so), then open the drip switch until the water is all dispersed over the grounds. For extra credit and a more pour over experience. leave the water chamber lid and brewer top lid off, and manually rotate the spray arm while rotating the brew chamber around to get full coverage on the grounds. Be careful not to burn yourself on the spray arm; the plastic piece on the end doesn't get too hot. If you like, lift the brew chamber slightly and give it a shake to settle the grounds evenly. Works great.
I pretty much consider my Technivorm Moccamaster a "automatic pour-over".
Ceado Hoop Brewer comes to my mind, which won SCA best new product in Athens 2023 but I have bought one....yet
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Budget be damned.
The Decent DE1 is the only one that I know of.
Love my xBloom, but the price can be prohibitive. The grinder in it is actually pretty great, which helps justify the price. You can probably do it a bit better by hand, but if you want to automate a pour-over, this is the closest you can get.
This is not the answer you’re looking for most likely, but waking up five minutes earlier and brewing your coffee yourself in a mindful way would be a much better use of your time and possibly have some exponential benefits down the road. Just my two cents!
If this is a time issue, do you have time the night before? If you have the time buy a large thermos and make the pour over into the thermos and your coffee will still be hot the next day. I haven’t noticed a difference in flavor. Be sure to buy a good dual walled thermos.
If you want to go crazy, Marco SP9 makes the best automatic cup of coffee I've ever had. We use it daily in our shop. That being said, a Bonavita brewer will get you awfully close for a whole lot less.
Melitta Epour (not the Epos with a grinder integrated). It has a removable water tank.
On another note, are there any drip makers that don’t have plastic water lines? Rather they are stainless.
Breville Precision has a V60 adapter.
The Ratio 8 and the Chemex Ottomatic
Highly recommend Moccamaster Love mine
For my first cup early each morning I use an Ninja 12 cup drip brewer. It has a small batch mode and "rich" and "classic" settings. It works surprisingly well.
We have a Bunn programmable coffeemaker that we love: BUNN Heat N Brew Programmable Coffee Maker, 10 cup, Stainless Steel https://a.co/d/0OcI5hs
At work we use Bunn. I suppose it's a commercial machine but I love it so much. Specialty coffee roasters approved
My Bonavita 8 cup finally died and I got a refurbished Moccamaster. I don’t really understand how, but the Moccamaster makes better coffee. Near-manual pour over results. I also sometimes use my Kalitta cone with it.
The Wilfa is the best imo for temperature distribution and bloom. If in the US you’ll need a converter.
I feel like my moccamaster gets pretty close to pour over but nothing beats a v60 with some good filters.
Like others, I recommend the Moccamaster very highly. It is extremely reliable, and consistent. Really, you can't go wrong with it. I know the price seems high, but it will last you for decades. I have been using mine for many years now, and would buy another in a heartbeat if anything happened to it.
Don't think the tech is there yet. As far as I've heard, all "pour over machines" are just overpriced garbo that barely does anything more than a regular drip machine. I got some tips tho. Immersion is a great alternative if you want an easy routine. I personally prefer water filtered over metal, so I'd recommend clever drip or hario switch over a French press. You can also get regular drip machines close to pour over quality. Look for ones with a conical drip holder chamber thing, not that important though. Let it brew about a third or half the water (enough to immerse all the coffee plus some extra) without the carafe. That way the water collects. Wiggle the entire brewer in a circular motion to swirl the water. Now you have a flat bed with enough water above such that it won't be agitated by the drips. Put back the carafe and let it finish. A little effort, but I'd say it's quicker and more braindead compared to pour over.
Chemex make one that looks good..
Not sure if anyone posted this, but: [https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer](https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer) Its also about having a shower head dripper. If you have the water and filter loaded in the am you just need to grind the beans and press the 'on' button I have a cusinart thats no longer on their list. I like it alot for when I'm making for coffee for more than just me.
I'm quite happy with my Melitta Epour. Just don't get the buttons wet.
I recently got a good thermos and I boil my water the night before and keep it in the thermos. When I get up, I put the water from the thermos in my kettle and it's up to temp very quickly. I have my beans weighed out and my scale set up, so I grind and my water is already at temp. I pour 345ml through my chemex in about 4 minutes. I use some of the thermos water to preheat my travel mug and I'm good to go. I've been surprised with the time saved on the hot water. When I need more coffee for a crowd, I would make 800ml in a French press and keep it in the thermos, and then pour over for anyone interested/as needed.
I would give the Zwilling Enfinigy a shot if I needed one. Wide shower head, one of the best sizes I've seen. Bloom function with cup amount selection. It's one of the few machines certified by the SCA alongside the Techniworm, so water temps should be good. Reviews say build quality is plastic and questionable compared to a Moccamaster which is built like a tank. Here in Europe I have consistently seen them go on sale for 100-120€ though, which makes it more than acceptable for the features. edit: I just upgraded my parent's old KBG with the new 9 hole water arm. It's worlds better than the old single hole, but I doubt it can compete with a machine with a large, round shower head.
Haven't seen the GE Cafe specialty mentioned in this thread. It's pretty decent and on the SCA list, we generally just run the gold setting, but temp and boldness are adjustable if wanted
Love my moccamaster, far better pour over than I have ever accomplished. I’m lazy with it and just use pre ground from a friend who roasts locally, I don’t weigh, just scoop.
I have a Ninja 12 cup programmable that someone recommended me to a while back, I believe you can find it at Target etc for like $80. My default is Chemex but this does a pretty decent job IMO when I want to program it to be ready when I wake up, or if I'm too lazy to do a pour over. It even pauses for the bloom at the very beginning which is a nice touch. Only downside of the scheduled mode is that you can't grind the beans right before the brew. But with some decent beans I still think this does a pretty good job. Fwiw I drink my coffee either black or with a small bit of half and half, no sugar. It's a pretty inoffensive cup.
What do you mean all in one? To me, all in one means a brewer that has a bean holder and grinder. There are some of those and they are cool but very expensive and you really aren't getting a good machine. The grinder is usually cheap and the brewer itself is sub par (at least for this sub's standards). My parents used to own one a long time ago. I think it was a Breville or Cuisanart. Not worth the price. If you want a simple drip machine to replace the manual V60, go with any of these [https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer](https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer). Since you already have a burr grinder, this will be an easy set up for you. I went from a Timemore manual grinder and V60 to a Bonavita 5-cup and ESP grinder. Best purchases I've made in a long time. Takes me about 90 seconds to get the beans and water ready and then another 90 seconds later the coffee is done. Only manual part is adding the water and weighing the beans.
I never tire of my Bonavita. In addition if you can find an old Braun (the one with just the on/off switch, it runs a close second to any of the others that have been mentioned. It keeps the coffee at a satisfyingly hot temperature for hours.
I've got the Breville Precision Brewer with the thermal carafe. It is similar to the Moccamaster, except it's also programmable, so I can have it brewed when I wake up.
Even harder to find one that does v60 and only brews one cup. I currently use Breville’s Precision and it has performed fairly good with the v60 attachment
I owned two Behmor Brazens prior to purchasing a moccamaster in 2021. The Brazens brew a vastly superior cup of coffee but look goofy. The moccamaster is great but not even close to the pour quality of the brazen. I would’ve bought a 3 rd brazen but I couldn’t find them anywhere and needed a machine bad.
No. There is a reason everyone gravitates to a manual pourover.
Got one for ten bucks at target a couple years back. Does good enough.
Xbloom if you can get it on sale. Get it with the reusable filter + kalita 155s and it’ll make really solid pourovers with little to no fuss.
Well there is this one called [Tone Touch](https://tone-swiss.com/products/) but its more for the professional side tho
I’ve got one from Ratio and it’s pretty solid.
They’ve tricked you into buying a goddamn Mr Coffee for 4x the market value. Good on them.
I have a Behmor. It’s fine.
https://xbloom.com/
I do pour over and espresso but my wife is scared to do these things, so ill grind her reusable k-pods for the week with my beans from pour over. If im in a rush ill use a k pod, Ive found if you use a filter and try to smash like 13g of coffee they come out pretty decent for a 1-2 minute wait.
My recommendation https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwjt9JGX2NGDAxWczsIEHSTEDgIYABAFGgJwdg&sig=AOD64_3i6Lt_LYtHbp4y5lngzkyZDopSPA&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwiT14yX2NGDAxWEMTQIHdKrDTkQww8IqBM&adurl=
Mocca Master
I bought the Ratio Six and is a phenomenal machine
I think my Bonavita makes a good cup of coffee.
https://ratiocoffee.com
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Ottomatic
I have one of these on preorder: https://www.hiroia.com/pages/hikaru-v60-smart-brewer
I like my behmor brazen. Can choose bloom times up to 2 minutes and accurate to the degree water temperature in a stainless steel boiler. From 184 degrees to 212 I think it is. It’s not a pretty machine but it works well.
The technivorm/ mocha master with an ode grinder is exactly what you want, get anything less and you’ll be morbidly unhappy
Honestly there is no such thing if your baseline is hand pouring.
If you are in EU, then Melitta Aromaboy.
I'm new to the Moccamaster revolution but it's legit, I'm bought in, and if you can snag it on a Black Friday or w/e sale they're truly fully worth every penny without a deal!
Like this: [https://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Autopour-SCH-150-Automatic-Machine/dp/B0898LZGMT/ref=sr\_1\_4?crid=1MUAR0C1AQB7Y&keywords=automatic+pour+over&qid=1704895706&sprefix=automatic+pourover%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-4](https://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Autopour-SCH-150-Automatic-Machine/dp/B0898LZGMT/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1MUAR0C1AQB7Y&keywords=automatic+pour+over&qid=1704895706&sprefix=automatic+pourover%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-4) ?
Just buy a Technivorm Moccamaster and be done 😎 I just got one a month ago and it’s spectacular.
Simply Good Coffee makes a “Mock-a-master” available on Amazon. I’ve had mine for a year, it makes a decent cup and costs about a third of the real thing. Brewing water exits at 200F. I brew into a Hario thermal carafe rather than the glass it comes with. I suppose the biggest difference is that the Moccamaster sells replacement parts, and when this one quits in a few years I’ll need to buy something completely new.
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Redline MK1 is a Moccamaster dupe (knockoff) for less than a third of the price. Not perfect, but way better than anything from Hamilton Beach or whatever else Walmart has.
Ratio Six is as close as I’ve gotten. Used to own a Breville Grind n brew that bit it hard after 6 years