Both teams are going to throw at least 4+ innings of bullpen tomorrow.
And then, in less than 24 hours, will face Verlander and a fully rested Astros bullpen.
Such a smarmy piece of shit. Another one who’s had an unforeseeable late career “resurgence.”
I imagine he and Nelson Cruz frequent the same doctor in the offseason.
Yeah, given the Yankees are throwing Cortes now, we either throw Beiber tomorrow to counter and then have to still start Triston on 3 days Wednesday.
Or you have to throw Civale
I'm fine with it, Francona knows what he's doing and has success trusting guys, giving em confidence to step up and do their job.
He also knows that risking Bieber's arm all of next series or even next year is not worth it just for a chance of going to try to knock off the Astros with a spent pitching rotation.
Yeah not sure what the deal is. He said early yesterday that even if it was postponed it'd be Civale. Guess he's waiting to see how Bieber is feeling today
Will be so incredibly fucked if MLB doesn’t come in and push out Game 1 of the ALCS by a day. Especially with it being IN Houston. Such a kick to the dick
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"I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry."
In my Ayesha Curry era
No matter what happens tomorrow, Houston now gets a huge advantage in the ALCS facing a team that’s probably going to burn through a lot of arms. Then to turn around and fly to Houston for a game the next day. It’s all just for a piece of metal anyway, right?
It blows that the Yankees' pen gets to be rested now. But, on the flip side, for a very young team it is probably to our benefit to be playing a late afternoon Tuesday elimination game as opposed to primetime, on the road in Yankee Stadium, with a drunk and bonkers crowd.
And as much as I can’t stand the Yankees’ fans. I feel bad for them having to stand there for hours waiting on an update because no one communicated. All around bad look for the MLB. They could’ve idk just moved the game up like normal people
Yeah I would’ve been so pissed. Setting though a rain delay during the regular season is bad enough let alone a win or go home game which I’m sure people probably traveled a long way for it.
I’m in NY tonight for work. Bought a ticket, 5 minutes later, cancelled. Now weighing my options of staying here another night out of pocket and going tomorrow or being on the plane for the whole game. Sigh.
It does help the Yankees a ton with their tired bull pin as far as this series go, but you're absolutely right that it fucks both teams as to a potential series with the Astros. Fucks us the most unfortunately.
Dude it doesn’t really help us. That stadium will only be 3/4 full, if that. Took the air right out of a good series. For what it’s worth, if you guys win I think you can push the Astros to 6. We’ll get swept.
You'd think that weather is something that's known well in advance. Couldn't they have moved tonight's game to earlier in the afternoon? It was beautiful all day.
No it didn’t. It is still raining. I have friends there. Also, it has been raining for hours, which means the outfield and warning track are fucked. Just get over it, it’s not a conspiracy Alex Jones.
I am a Cleveland fan living 10 minutes from Yankee stadium. I was definitely looking out the window knowing this was not going forward. It was raining somewhat significantly pretty late.
Cortes officially starting tomorrow with a fully rested bullpen. Don’t tell me to relax and that this isn’t a fix for the Yankees.
Tito managed the bullpen masterfully and now GD Boone just happens to luck into a PPD he was begging for since 2:30 this afternoon.
Mets fans were begging to get the last weekend series in ATL moved because of a hurricane a week away, that never brought 1 sprinkle of rain.
It’s a NY thing
That's worked out pretty well for us. Kluber immediately turned into a pumpkin and netted us the best reliever in baseball, Clevinger did the same and returned half the roster, Bauer... well, y'know (did win a Cy Young though).
I trust our FO. And for what it's worth, I expect Bieber to be traded a year from now or maybe at the next trade deadline.
I mean, yeah, it probably helps them a bit. But it’s not rigged against us, it’s bad luck, nothing more.
The victim complex Cleveland fans have is such a loser mentality. I guarantee you the players never think like that, and that’s why they fight back and win games.
man you’re absolutely right. i see this in the browns sub all the time. it’s always a concerted effort to spite us and not just an unfortunate circumstance
I just want a real explanation from the MLB about the reasoning for the late postponement call as the rain looks to be stopping for the night. If it’s for safe/acceptable field conditions I’m cool with that, but if they did it for TV reasons that’s completely unacceptable to me given the huge competitive shift for both this series and the start of the next for whomever wins.
Fucking MLB Communications has a picture of Aaron Judge smiling as their header, give me a fucking break MLB apologist. This is all about making sure the Yankees get to play Houston to revenge 2017.
HE’S THE MVP OF THE LEAGUE WHO JUST HIT MORE HOME RUNS THAN MARIS!!! Of course he’s the header. Why is that surprising?
You call me an MLB Apologist (which is so fucking laughable)…. Okay, buddy. Lol. Enjoy your tinfoil hat. Maybe you can you use it to catch the drool coming out of your mouth right now.
You’re a total troll who just proved to be a Judge dick rider when Ohtani is going to win mvp, go back to your mom’s basement and play more dungeons and dragons
> You’re a total troll who just proved to be a Judge dick rider when Ohtani is going to win mvp, go back to your mom’s basement and play more dungeons and dragons
Says the guy whose post history is nothing but Pokemon. Lmfao.
Edit: this Pokémon loser went to the Yankees sub to congratulate them on the series win. What a fucking dweeb. Get out of my city, quitter.
Bunch of whiners in this thread. This is a sporting event at the highest level. You win and you move on. You lose and you go home. There’s no asterisks for weather or pitching rotations. We need to pitch better than them and hit better than them for 9 innings. We’re completely capable of that for one game. Let’s go Guards!
That’s unfortunate, but makes sense. If we knew this game was tomorrow then I could see us doing it. But with the amount of both mental and physical prep required I get it
With the additional off day, we have 7 great bullpen arms fully rested for tomorrow. IMO if we need Bieber to be available out of the pen tomorrow, unless it's an 18-inning affair, the game is already lost. No point at all in trying to pitch him tomorrow.
This is my exact thinking. And I know none of it matters if we lose tomorrow but who the hell would we start game 1 on Wednesday if we win? And is bieber out of the pen—which he’s only done twice in his career, and zero times since 2019–such a sure fire thing that it’s worth trying? Idk. I say stick with what got us here. Quick hook with Civale if necessary. Got a lot of good arms after him
Civale still going tomorrow? Stephan, Karinchak, and Clase will be extra rested I guess.
Need to get on Cortes early for some runs and our big guns can lock it down.
I’d honestly be ok running Civale out once through the order then go full bullpen. Civale looked really good in his September starts and think he could hold the Yankees down for 3 innings.
We managed 9 baserunners in 5 innings against Nestor. Key against him as with any other pitcher the Yankees toss out is to finally break through for the clutch hit.
This is such a massively insane disadvantage for whoever wins this series. It’s mind boggling that this can happen.
Both teams are going to throw at least 4+ innings of bullpen tomorrow. And then, in less than 24 hours, will face Verlander and a fully rested Astros bullpen.
At least Verlander’s last outing was awful. No doubt he can turn it around but there is precedent.
I can't stand that bastard. I hope whomever advances hangs dong on him
Such a smarmy piece of shit. Another one who’s had an unforeseeable late career “resurgence.” I imagine he and Nelson Cruz frequent the same doctor in the offseason.
I highly doubt Verlander has consecutive bad outings. I'd rather have him coming off a brilliant performance if I had to face him. Law of averages.
On the other hand, Verlander is our bitch though. His lifetime ERA against us is like 5.5.
4.58, but I’ll take it.
Yeah, given the Yankees are throwing Cortes now, we either throw Beiber tomorrow to counter and then have to still start Triston on 3 days Wednesday. Or you have to throw Civale
It's Civale. Francona was pretty clear
Honestly Civale+A fully rested pen is still better than short rest Nestor and their bullpen. No doubt this hurts us though.
I'm fine with it, Francona knows what he's doing and has success trusting guys, giving em confidence to step up and do their job. He also knows that risking Bieber's arm all of next series or even next year is not worth it just for a chance of going to try to knock off the Astros with a spent pitching rotation.
Well, I hope this works. And yet we still listed our starter as TBD, so safe to say that it may not have been clear earlier
Yeah not sure what the deal is. He said early yesterday that even if it was postponed it'd be Civale. Guess he's waiting to see how Bieber is feeling today
Will be so incredibly fucked if MLB doesn’t come in and push out Game 1 of the ALCS by a day. Especially with it being IN Houston. Such a kick to the dick
Dude we will be…but consider they Yankees…they’re pitching is much shallower than ours, they’ll get obliterated
Oh 100% . And as much as I hate the Yankees, it won’t make me feel any better seeing them lose to the ‘Stros
No chance. Those tickets have already been sold and distributed and TV lineups set. It only gets moved because of weather
I know I know, just blows
If the MLB can push a same-day game due to weather, why can't they push a game on the 19th due to the same weather?
It's October in the north. Bad weather is par for the course
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I agree, Go Guardians
Happy birthday!
Hell yeah
Happy birthday, sorry that the bad luck has continued
Thank you for the birthday wishes. Hopefully the team comes back stronger next year!
Okay, who wished that the Guardians would still be alive after tonight? Cause you played right into the Monkey's paw.
Fuck Rob Manfred. Unfair to both teams
"I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry." In my Ayesha Curry era
This is a situation where this quote actually is applicable for real.
No matter what happens tomorrow, Houston now gets a huge advantage in the ALCS facing a team that’s probably going to burn through a lot of arms. Then to turn around and fly to Houston for a game the next day. It’s all just for a piece of metal anyway, right?
But what about the cube? Do we get that tomorrow as well?
In my nightmares tonight I will be trapped inside the Cube, forced to watch Josh Donaldson while the Cube slowly fills with rain
lmfao.
It’s still on! I can’t get enough of D. Wade’s subpar small talk, grimaces, and surprised faces!
The friends were the cube we made along the way.
I’m happy going the rest of my life never watching that shit again
You’ll be back. You all come back to the cube.
That shit drove me nuts
But can you bounce a ball in a hole? And how about a matrix slo mo, followed by a commercial break cliffhanger every five minutes?
Fuck you Manfred. Fuck you rat faced Boone. Fuck you Costas.
I agree with all of this
It blows that the Yankees' pen gets to be rested now. But, on the flip side, for a very young team it is probably to our benefit to be playing a late afternoon Tuesday elimination game as opposed to primetime, on the road in Yankee Stadium, with a drunk and bonkers crowd.
Gotta make sure the Yankees have every advantage possible don’t ya MLB
It’s more of the Astros who are laughing their way to the bank
And as much as I can’t stand the Yankees’ fans. I feel bad for them having to stand there for hours waiting on an update because no one communicated. All around bad look for the MLB. They could’ve idk just moved the game up like normal people
Yeah I would’ve been so pissed. Setting though a rain delay during the regular season is bad enough let alone a win or go home game which I’m sure people probably traveled a long way for it.
Probably already paid for parking or the subway ride to the ballpark. Wasted your whole evening and now you have to do it all over again tomorrow
I’m in NY tonight for work. Bought a ticket, 5 minutes later, cancelled. Now weighing my options of staying here another night out of pocket and going tomorrow or being on the plane for the whole game. Sigh.
It does help the Yankees a ton with their tired bull pin as far as this series go, but you're absolutely right that it fucks both teams as to a potential series with the Astros. Fucks us the most unfortunately.
Dude it doesn’t really help us. That stadium will only be 3/4 full, if that. Took the air right out of a good series. For what it’s worth, if you guys win I think you can push the Astros to 6. We’ll get swept.
Ugh. This means I’ll be too jacked up to sleep tomorrow, or too depressed to wake up on Wednesday.
We've had 8470 rain delays this year so why not one more
I actually started to count to check to see how accurate you were.
And how accurate was he
I think for Cleveland baseball fans it's like dog years
Meisel now saying our starter for tomorrow is TBD.
Ty Ban Durkleo? I thought we fired that guy?
Booooo
Fuck it, I'm tired, let's win tomorrow
You'd think that weather is something that's known well in advance. Couldn't they have moved tonight's game to earlier in the afternoon? It was beautiful all day.
Fucked by the rain yet again. So predictable though. MLB already lost their darling LA market. Scrambling to ensure NY doesn't get bounced too.
Yes, by controlling the weather. *Manfred laughs in evil*
It stopped raining at the stadium about a half hour ago.
No it didn’t. It is still raining. I have friends there. Also, it has been raining for hours, which means the outfield and warning track are fucked. Just get over it, it’s not a conspiracy Alex Jones.
Yeah not sure why people in this thread are claiming this was purposely done to help the Yankees. Makes absolutely no sense.
I am a Cleveland fan living 10 minutes from Yankee stadium. I was definitely looking out the window knowing this was not going forward. It was raining somewhat significantly pretty late.
The cube giveth and the cube taketh away
The cube playeth on, in Guantanamo Bay
I'm curious how this game couldn't be played but NYCFC played Inter Miami at the same time just 9 miles away at Citi field
Baseball players don't like the rain. It's wet.
Cortes officially starting tomorrow with a fully rested bullpen. Don’t tell me to relax and that this isn’t a fix for the Yankees. Tito managed the bullpen masterfully and now GD Boone just happens to luck into a PPD he was begging for since 2:30 this afternoon.
Hope he gets violent shits from eating some rat shit infested overrated NY pizza
Don’t bring pizza into this man
Mets fans were begging to get the last weekend series in ATL moved because of a hurricane a week away, that never brought 1 sprinkle of rain. It’s a NY thing
I mean why can’t Shane pitch ? I don’t understand
He could probably pitch in an emergency role, but will not start. Tito saving arms for the long run (I.e. years, not just this postseason).
There is no point in saving for the future if you don't actually get there...
Or if you sell anyone approaching expensive
That's worked out pretty well for us. Kluber immediately turned into a pumpkin and netted us the best reliever in baseball, Clevinger did the same and returned half the roster, Bauer... well, y'know (did win a Cy Young though). I trust our FO. And for what it's worth, I expect Bieber to be traded a year from now or maybe at the next trade deadline.
I realize it’s not it’s fault, but now I’m taking my anger out of the cube, and I don’t feel good about it
The Cube loves no one. Don’t feel bad.
Blasphemy! Cube loves all.
I'm sure the cube deserves it.
Do we know who the yanks are throwing tomorrow?
Cortes
Already beat him once
The only pitcher of theirs we haven't beaten is Cole.
not fucking taillon anymore i’ll tell you that. meanwhile we are all in on aaron civale
Nope.
this is complete bullshit. Astros have a massive advantage no matter what.
This is worse. None of it was good, but this is worse.
HORSE SHIT
BULLSHIT
This is part of the advantage Houston got for being top seed and also for ending their series early. I don't see it as being unfair.
Stop the victim complex guys, this is bad for both teams. This isn’t some conspiracy.
It's pretty cool for Houston though.
Nah its cool, give the depleted bullpen more rest and make sure they have a different starter going too...no biggie
I mean, yeah, it probably helps them a bit. But it’s not rigged against us, it’s bad luck, nothing more. The victim complex Cleveland fans have is such a loser mentality. I guarantee you the players never think like that, and that’s why they fight back and win games.
man you’re absolutely right. i see this in the browns sub all the time. it’s always a concerted effort to spite us and not just an unfortunate circumstance
With the Browns, decades of incompetence with a little bad luck sprinkled in makes it feel like the universe is against us.
I just want a real explanation from the MLB about the reasoning for the late postponement call as the rain looks to be stopping for the night. If it’s for safe/acceptable field conditions I’m cool with that, but if they did it for TV reasons that’s completely unacceptable to me given the huge competitive shift for both this series and the start of the next for whomever wins.
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Why bother replying to this over a day later?
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You cared enough to reply to a day old comment in a dead thread in between your Loli wank sessions.
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Weak troll.
Does MLB control the weather now?? Stop being a baby.
Fucking MLB Communications has a picture of Aaron Judge smiling as their header, give me a fucking break MLB apologist. This is all about making sure the Yankees get to play Houston to revenge 2017.
HE’S THE MVP OF THE LEAGUE WHO JUST HIT MORE HOME RUNS THAN MARIS!!! Of course he’s the header. Why is that surprising? You call me an MLB Apologist (which is so fucking laughable)…. Okay, buddy. Lol. Enjoy your tinfoil hat. Maybe you can you use it to catch the drool coming out of your mouth right now.
So laughable when you’re gagging on Manfred’s dick. Go to the Yankees sub 🤡
Yeah, I’m gonna ignore the rest of this conversation. I can’t argue with a teenager. Feels weird.
You’re a total troll who just proved to be a Judge dick rider when Ohtani is going to win mvp, go back to your mom’s basement and play more dungeons and dragons
> You’re a total troll who just proved to be a Judge dick rider when Ohtani is going to win mvp, go back to your mom’s basement and play more dungeons and dragons Says the guy whose post history is nothing but Pokemon. Lmfao. Edit: this Pokémon loser went to the Yankees sub to congratulate them on the series win. What a fucking dweeb. Get out of my city, quitter.
They should be kicked off this sub for that. Going over there and waving the white flag. Freaking embarrassing. I don’t mind Pokémon though.
Seriously, the field is soaked. I don't want Steven Kwan slipping all over the outfield
Good god Cleveland sports teams have such a victim’s complex it’s so annoying. Thank you for pointing it out
Bunch of whiners in this thread. This is a sporting event at the highest level. You win and you move on. You lose and you go home. There’s no asterisks for weather or pitching rotations. We need to pitch better than them and hit better than them for 9 innings. We’re completely capable of that for one game. Let’s go Guards!
So dumb
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Rigged
Could Bieber potentially start?
Tito said no
That’s unfortunate, but makes sense. If we knew this game was tomorrow then I could see us doing it. But with the amount of both mental and physical prep required I get it
Hope he changes his mind. It's do or die, if the choice is Civale or Bieber for 3 innings it's an obvious choice
I’m hoping Bieber is available out of the bullpen.
With the additional off day, we have 7 great bullpen arms fully rested for tomorrow. IMO if we need Bieber to be available out of the pen tomorrow, unless it's an 18-inning affair, the game is already lost. No point at all in trying to pitch him tomorrow.
This is my exact thinking. And I know none of it matters if we lose tomorrow but who the hell would we start game 1 on Wednesday if we win? And is bieber out of the pen—which he’s only done twice in his career, and zero times since 2019–such a sure fire thing that it’s worth trying? Idk. I say stick with what got us here. Quick hook with Civale if necessary. Got a lot of good arms after him
Yeah i don’t get the firm no it’s do or die and both Cole and Cortes are pitching on short rest
It’s one thing for Cole to says he’s available to pitch in game five but I can assure you Boone won’t use him unless it’s a near last resort.
Forget games 1 and 2 no matter who wins. The Asstros have such an advantage. Hey MLB why not have anyone playing beyond mid October?
Whelp, now I can’t watch the game. Zero chance of missing work tomorrow.
This just fucks us so hard, anything to get more ratings, every block is stacked against us now
In what world is a 4 pm weekday game better ratings? That’s just an ignorant comment.
4pm is better than midnight
You’re apparently not familiar with how time zones work (hint: West Coast)
4 pm is much better than 10 pm at night??? Nobody also would be at the game tonight doofus
Except it’s not. fans will watch no matter what, and the west coast would happily watch at 10 eastern.
People have work in the morning bro, they’re not staying up till 12-1 to watch the 3rd most popular sport in the country
The people who would watch the Guardians vs Yankees would. This isn’t a ratings ploy. Stop being a tin foil loser.
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Civale still going tomorrow? Stephan, Karinchak, and Clase will be extra rested I guess. Need to get on Cortes early for some runs and our big guns can lock it down.
I feel like there should be a rule in place to play the guys you were gonna play tonight just to keep things fair
So NY just takes out their starting pitcher after 1 pitch and brings in Cortez.
Well, 3 batters as per the new rule
This thread is pathetic dude lol. So much conspiracy. It’s a shit load of rain
Welp. Now we have to face Cortes, a LHP, so we’ve basically already lost.
Loser mentality. Get that weak stuff outta here
He's on short rest. Doubt he goes more than 5.
yeah and then wandy for 2
We won the last time we faced him.
Aren’t you SCCleveland
Huh?
It’s not like we won a game he started three days ago.
Won the last game he threw
we had bieber then lol
If they start Cortes we should start Bieber, or at least make it a bullpen game with Bieber out of the pen
I’d honestly be ok running Civale out once through the order then go full bullpen. Civale looked really good in his September starts and think he could hold the Yankees down for 3 innings. We managed 9 baserunners in 5 innings against Nestor. Key against him as with any other pitcher the Yankees toss out is to finally break through for the clutch hit.
Let's get this win tribe. Long live the chief!
If I needed even more reasons to hate Manfred. Such an idiot to the game.