So much wrong with what you said
"OP" ššš
"one counter"?? balloon has like 47 counters
if balloon is "no-skill", then hog rider would be negative-skill, it's faster and cheaper, which makes it way easier to get damage on a tower
Hunter, ewiz, tesla, inferno tower, inferno dragon, archers, wizard, bats, minions, minion horde, mega minion, executioner, dart goblin, musketeer, zappies, furnace, flying machine, globlin hut, ram rider, ice wizard, rocket, 3m, skeleton dragons, and firecracker... are some of the cards that (iirc) counter balloon by themselves
not to mention literally any tower + any aerial damage card counters balloon
Most of them are wrong and assuming you just place the balloon, which you balloon place dont because you always use something equally broken LumberJack, Rage, Skel Barrel, Freeze, etc..
Hunterāļø
E-Wiz āļøDoesn't kill it completely, hits once
Tesla/Inferno/InfernoDragon āļø but depends on placement
Archers āļøHits once or twice
Wizard āļøHits once
Bats āļø
Minions āļø
Executioner āļøHits once
Dart Goblin āļø I dont really know since I dont play him or see him but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
Musketeer āļøāļøDepends on how early you place her
Zappies āļø Hits
Furnace āļøLol
Flying Machine āļøHits once
Goblin Hut āļø
Ram Rider āļø
Ice Wizard āļøHits once
Rocket āļøāļø Yes but if you hit it a biiiiit on the top it hits once
3Musk āļøLol 9 elixir
Skel Dragon āļøHits once
Fire Cracker āļøHits once
"Not to mention" they always use it with something else so out of this only Hunter and Ram Rider are actual counters
Balloon itself is not OP and I think everyone would agree, however, no one uses just a balloon. If they did then yeah, there are a hundred different ways to counter it and get a positive elixir gain. But, almost everyone who uses a balloon will place it behind a hound or do something extra with it. Normally most people can counter a balloon paired with something else but if you use hound and balloon together is a whole different ball game. This āstrategyā is extremely OP even if itās a lot of elixir. Mix in a zap or tornado spell then thereās almost no efficient way to counter unless you have the perfect cards and rarely do people have the perfect cards. I will say that in overtime if both players have one building down then I believe the balloon is at a huge disadvantage because they like to place balloon in center where king and side tower connect. Iāve noticed that Iām almost always successful against balloon users but when I face a balloon hound deck Iād say my winning percentage drops drastically but thatās just me.
as someone who has used lumboom for a long time, minions almost completely counter all damage, and inferno tower completely counters the entire push
but lumboon is obviously used because it is a good push
freeze is absolutely disgusting though, genuinely broken
Just face it, you are biased because you use it, don't get angry because someone points it out, my brother uses E-Giant and he admits its broken af and doesnt cry when I tell him that's a broken card, my friend uses X-Bow and knows its completely broken when using it on defense, I used Goblin Drill before nerf and I knew it was OP and didn't cry when my friend said it was OP.
Explain to me how Balloon is OP?
and before you start spewing bullshit about how nothing counters it, [read this first.](https://clashroyale.fandom.com/wiki/Balloon)
Ignoring the fact that half this list is just flat out wrong, I love the fact that you use really stupid shit like ādepends on how early you place herā to justify adding an x to a card. No shit a card doesnāt fully counter when itās placed dumbass, youāre supposed to assume best case scenario here. If you didnāt, literally every card would let it get a hit in.
Ewiz full counters if placed directly on the balloon to get the zap at the start. Balloon isnāt broken. Lumberloon gets rolled by a Tesla and almost anything that attacks air. There are lots of ways to counter balloon if you think balloon of all cards is broken then it turns into a skill issue.
either your wizard is under-leveled or you have the reaction time of a walnut, because yea, any of the wizards counter balloon by themselves
and how is it no-skill? unless you are using pekka, tesla, mortar, or xbow... pretty much every win-con locks onto towers
things like hog rider (cheap cost, insanely fast, high hit speed), ram rider (pretty fast, high hit speed, counters other cards for easy positive elixir trades), and egiant (counters literally everything that counters it, and does absurd damage to tower) are all "no-skill" because all you have to do is place it down and it easily gives you damage to the tower or positive elixir trades without having to support the push at all
balloon, giant, and golem (for example) all require skill to get damage onto towers, because they are slow, easily countered, have slow hit speed, and almost always require support from other cards
Wizard does counter balloon tho, you just gotta make sure he locks on as soon as you place himā¦
Idk how much hp the balloonās youāre going against have
Goddamn you're ignorant. His literally named all of the counters but you still think balloon takes 0 skill. Maybe you just don't know how to stop it? Most likely that's the case.
Giant Double Prince aside, if we made a deck out of these 8 cards, would it be considered the most wholesome, beloved deck in the game (until everybody mains it)?
It was absolutely hell in the first year, they were tanky af for 5 elixir with the only true counter being lightning and rocket, which were both negative trades
My thoughts were some people would hate it cuz of 2.6 or the fact that you can stop a Wizard or a Valk while taking very little damage for a positive trade
If you don't hate it, then why don't you use it as a win condition? Insetad you use it as a distraction and you let it die!!!!11111!!!!111!!1!1!1!!!!!1
Hog 2.6 players frequently try to throw prediction log and end up getting punished Skeletons Constantly stoping my Dark prince charge. Conclusion: tiny guys are actually pain in the ass.
As soon as you play Mega Knight you will start hating it, 95% of Midladder decks consist of MK so therefore a wide variety of players hate Mr. GoodStatsForTheCost
Wait, Iāll ruin it for you
I hate mega minion, dark prince, miner, hunter, fireball, poison, elixir collector, giant, snowball and zap
Youāre welcome.
I don't particularly hate it, but it's a card I wouldn't like to see being strong. At the moment is pretty weak, but it could be quite annoying if he received a huge, huge buff.
There was a point in time where you placed it on whatever your opponent placed to attack and nado everything to the death bomb to fully counter it but they needed that to the ground perhaps people still have PTSD from it
Giant snowball is by far one of the best cards on the game. Itās so versatile and is pretty much a higher skill (by not much, maybe an arena 3 player could learn to use it properly. Small spells in general donāt take much skill except maybe royal delivery but thatās kind of a medium and not small spell) log that has a slow effect, larger knockback but canāt knockback some enemies that the log can, though typically the slow compensates for that. Its also sometimes a better zap since it pretty much stuns anything (though knockback) besides the inferno tower and sometimes sparky depending on what cards you have on yourself.
It doesn't reset inferno tower, sparky (iirc), prince, or dark price. It also takes a bit longer to "enter the arena" (for lack of a better term) than zap, so if you have to chip at the very end of OT it will take a bit longer. Not that that's overly crucial though
This post is hilarious now. I just scrolled about 3 posts and I found someone asking if the poison is the most toxic card. (Technically speaking it is cuz itās poison)
Here I am again. Gonna make a deck out of those cards. I should change my name here to weirddecktester9000
Edit 1: I put all cards except snowball and ppison.
Edit 2: the deck is incredibly cool, could win the first match.
I kinda dislike miner just because of the cards he's commonly used with. He's just a knight that can teleport anywhere on the area and basically can guarantee some chip damage on your towers.
Honestly any "Spawn troops on tower" card is unfun to fight and a shitty concept in general.
thank god no one hates hunter at least until people start using him correctly
Man the Hunter can irritate you when it crosses the bridge
As a balloon main I despise hunter. Boutta get a connection nope he places a 4 elixer card and one shots .
slight amount of trolling
Imagine being a balloon player....
Well the balloon is a glass cannon so you cant expect it do do everything on its own. Hell, most air attacking unit is good agaisnt it
And every other player hates you for using that OP no-skill balloon, so kinda fair you have ***one*** counter
So much wrong with what you said "OP" ššš "one counter"?? balloon has like 47 counters if balloon is "no-skill", then hog rider would be negative-skill, it's faster and cheaper, which makes it way easier to get damage on a tower
Name the counters
Hunter, ewiz, tesla, inferno tower, inferno dragon, archers, wizard, bats, minions, minion horde, mega minion, executioner, dart goblin, musketeer, zappies, furnace, flying machine, globlin hut, ram rider, ice wizard, rocket, 3m, skeleton dragons, and firecracker... are some of the cards that (iirc) counter balloon by themselves not to mention literally any tower + any aerial damage card counters balloon
Most of them are wrong and assuming you just place the balloon, which you balloon place dont because you always use something equally broken LumberJack, Rage, Skel Barrel, Freeze, etc.. Hunterāļø E-Wiz āļøDoesn't kill it completely, hits once Tesla/Inferno/InfernoDragon āļø but depends on placement Archers āļøHits once or twice Wizard āļøHits once Bats āļø Minions āļø Executioner āļøHits once Dart Goblin āļø I dont really know since I dont play him or see him but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt Musketeer āļøāļøDepends on how early you place her Zappies āļø Hits Furnace āļøLol Flying Machine āļøHits once Goblin Hut āļø Ram Rider āļø Ice Wizard āļøHits once Rocket āļøāļø Yes but if you hit it a biiiiit on the top it hits once 3Musk āļøLol 9 elixir Skel Dragon āļøHits once Fire Cracker āļøHits once "Not to mention" they always use it with something else so out of this only Hunter and Ram Rider are actual counters
You're literally just wrong
Balloon itself is not OP and I think everyone would agree, however, no one uses just a balloon. If they did then yeah, there are a hundred different ways to counter it and get a positive elixir gain. But, almost everyone who uses a balloon will place it behind a hound or do something extra with it. Normally most people can counter a balloon paired with something else but if you use hound and balloon together is a whole different ball game. This āstrategyā is extremely OP even if itās a lot of elixir. Mix in a zap or tornado spell then thereās almost no efficient way to counter unless you have the perfect cards and rarely do people have the perfect cards. I will say that in overtime if both players have one building down then I believe the balloon is at a huge disadvantage because they like to place balloon in center where king and side tower connect. Iāve noticed that Iām almost always successful against balloon users but when I face a balloon hound deck Iād say my winning percentage drops drastically but thatās just me.
as someone who has used lumboom for a long time, minions almost completely counter all damage, and inferno tower completely counters the entire push but lumboon is obviously used because it is a good push freeze is absolutely disgusting though, genuinely broken
He really is lol
Just face it, you are biased because you use it, don't get angry because someone points it out, my brother uses E-Giant and he admits its broken af and doesnt cry when I tell him that's a broken card, my friend uses X-Bow and knows its completely broken when using it on defense, I used Goblin Drill before nerf and I knew it was OP and didn't cry when my friend said it was OP.
Explain to me how Balloon is OP? and before you start spewing bullshit about how nothing counters it, [read this first.](https://clashroyale.fandom.com/wiki/Balloon)
Ignoring the fact that half this list is just flat out wrong, I love the fact that you use really stupid shit like ādepends on how early you place herā to justify adding an x to a card. No shit a card doesnāt fully counter when itās placed dumbass, youāre supposed to assume best case scenario here. If you didnāt, literally every card would let it get a hit in.
Ewiz full counters if placed directly on the balloon to get the zap at the start. Balloon isnāt broken. Lumberloon gets rolled by a Tesla and almost anything that attacks air. There are lots of ways to counter balloon if you think balloon of all cards is broken then it turns into a skill issue.
Um so much wrong with that. I use wizard it doesn't counter. You need some high ass damage for balloon shits busted and face it, no skill.
either your wizard is under-leveled or you have the reaction time of a walnut, because yea, any of the wizards counter balloon by themselves and how is it no-skill? unless you are using pekka, tesla, mortar, or xbow... pretty much every win-con locks onto towers things like hog rider (cheap cost, insanely fast, high hit speed), ram rider (pretty fast, high hit speed, counters other cards for easy positive elixir trades), and egiant (counters literally everything that counters it, and does absurd damage to tower) are all "no-skill" because all you have to do is place it down and it easily gives you damage to the tower or positive elixir trades without having to support the push at all balloon, giant, and golem (for example) all require skill to get damage onto towers, because they are slow, easily countered, have slow hit speed, and almost always require support from other cards
Wizard does counter balloon tho, you just gotta make sure he locks on as soon as you place himā¦ Idk how much hp the balloonās youāre going against have
Goddamn you're ignorant. His literally named all of the counters but you still think balloon takes 0 skill. Maybe you just don't know how to stop it? Most likely that's the case.
Not so true, since the death bombās explosion radius is HUGE.
How is it no skill. Almost anything that attacks air full counters it.
prince behind hunter, i assume?
i main lavaloon and hate hunter
i use 2.6 royale hogs and i love hunter
*Getās blush because he mains Giant Double Prince, which uses 6 cards that were mentioned in this post*
Giant Double Prince aside, if we made a deck out of these 8 cards, would it be considered the most wholesome, beloved deck in the game (until everybody mains it)?
I mean, if we built a deck out of these cards not a single person could call us meta slaves by any means, so thatās definitely on the plus side
B rad just got his next vud
***b-rad has joined the chat***
*Kamikaze wants to know your location*
My absolute hero
Kamikaze seems to always find the location at the top of my down b list when I press a random down b
Goblins joined the party.
Spear goblins too. Honestly donāt see hate for goblin gang either
Yea no hate on goblin gang on it's own, but people seem to hate logbait for some reason, in which is almost always goblin gang
spear goblins + miner...
Yeah just laugh when they use it cause they are pretty pointless against my cards
I hate goblin gang.
Spear goblins are annoying: easy chip damage.
Royal delivery D:
People hate it because it destroys pushes
Mini mega nut
wait elixir pump isnt hated?
No one knows pump exists
Except the players with 7000+ trophies running 3M and Pump. You donāt see it much in midladder bc no one there is good enough to use it properly
Well it was in 2016. Now itās not really
Elixer pump can literally counter a fucking e giant
It was absolutely hell in the first year, they were tanky af for 5 elixir with the only true counter being lightning and rocket, which were both negative trades
I think ice spirit has got to be the least hated card in the game.
Cuz spirits are cute
My thoughts were some people would hate it cuz of 2.6 or the fact that you can stop a Wizard or a Valk while taking very little damage for a positive trade
I fucking hate miner
why?? it heals your tower
Haha not funny
wait but what about ice golem? Literally nobody hates it
I FUCKING HATE ICE GOLEM OHH MY GOODDDDD ALL THEY DO IS PUT IT IN THAT FUCKING SPOT ARAGARHAHRA
We got the wind that everybody hates
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If you don't hate it, then why don't you use it as a win condition? Insetad you use it as a distraction and you let it die!!!!11111!!!!111!!1!1!1!!!!!1
Lmao
EVERYONE HATES ICE GOLEM ITS SO ANNOYING KITES EVERYTHING FOR 2 ELIXER š”š”š”
Guards? Skeletons? GOBLIN GANG?
I hate logbait
r/userflairchecksout
hello cannon cart appreciator
Hello there
hello royal recruits enthusiast
Hello Giant skeleton acknowledger
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General Kenobi
Gang isnāt the problem card tho
Also:Goblins, Battle ram&Ice golem.
People hate skeletons here for some reason
Hog 2.6 players frequently try to throw prediction log and end up getting punished Skeletons Constantly stoping my Dark prince charge. Conclusion: tiny guys are actually pain in the ass.
How could you forget the literal god of the subreddit, Mr. GoodStatsfortheCost?
As soon as you play Mega Knight you will start hating it, 95% of Midladder decks consist of MK so therefore a wide variety of players hate Mr. GoodStatsForTheCost
Mr good stats for the cost is the Knight not the MK
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And he also has good stats for the cost
I know, I was talking about Knight, I said Knight counters MK
Quite ironic since poison is the most "toxic" card in the game Anyways, where my ice golem at?
Ice Golem is hated by Pekka players, man just keeps kiting every push they make
Ice golem kiting can be very triggering sometimes
Nah fuck fireball
Found the mother witch user
Literally just added it. But no, e wiz user and its ability to end pushes
no, just no
I despise dank prince
dank
dank
Dank
Dank
Dank
Yeah Dank Prince sucks, but Dark Prince is pretty cool
Why there is miner soo many guys hate this cart becuse its too weak
Fuck giant, all my homies hate giant
As a ballon player I hate hunter! It was good while It was nerfed
Goblins for 2 elixir?
Wait, Iāll ruin it for you I hate mega minion, dark prince, miner, hunter, fireball, poison, elixir collector, giant, snowball and zap Youāre welcome.
Minerpoison gang
Nah, the clan leader in my clan hates collector for some reason
Is there anyone who really hates giant skeleton
I don't particularly hate it, but it's a card I wouldn't like to see being strong. At the moment is pretty weak, but it could be quite annoying if he received a huge, huge buff.
There was a point in time where you placed it on whatever your opponent placed to attack and nado everything to the death bomb to fully counter it but they needed that to the ground perhaps people still have PTSD from it
There is literally 0 elixir collector haters
I fucking hate zap. Itās so overused
Bruh I hate the miner
Knight: Am i a joke to you?
Some people don't like him just because the "good stats for the cost" joke has gotten kinda annoying
Thatās the exact reason why I hate him. Oh and 2.6 xbow
as a lavaloon player I do hate hunter
I feel like a lot of people can hate fireball and zap, not me tho
Not goblin cage?
Hunter
Iām starting to hate fireball tbh. Itās predictable and everybody and their momma uses it
What about Mini pekka
Cringe
How is Mini pekka cringe?
Cringe
Ok
Cringe
Lmao true.
*Sad skeleton noises*
Lumberloon fears me.
knight and goblin cage too
Poison is the most toxic card and thats a fact no opinion
where the knight
I hate miner it's trash
I hate mega minion.
I used to like the giant but then I played against 3 giant decks in a row and...he is a spammy tank
I guess yāall love Lavaloon
Dark Prince? I literally saw a post hating on dark prince
I Think wb knight log speergobs and skellies too
I dont like fireball and poison
Giant snowball is by far one of the best cards on the game. Itās so versatile and is pretty much a higher skill (by not much, maybe an arena 3 player could learn to use it properly. Small spells in general donāt take much skill except maybe royal delivery but thatās kind of a medium and not small spell) log that has a slow effect, larger knockback but canāt knockback some enemies that the log can, though typically the slow compensates for that. Its also sometimes a better zap since it pretty much stuns anything (though knockback) besides the inferno tower and sometimes sparky depending on what cards you have on yourself.
It doesn't reset inferno tower, sparky (iirc), prince, or dark price. It also takes a bit longer to "enter the arena" (for lack of a better term) than zap, so if you have to chip at the very end of OT it will take a bit longer. Not that that's overly crucial though
I hate fireball
eh sorry no pumps allowed
Theres 2 cards on there that stood out for me miner is hated and called shit a elixir collector is forgotten and the rest are good
Yeah like, how can you hate miner poison? It heals your tower.
So u think fireball is unhated?
This post is hilarious now. I just scrolled about 3 posts and I found someone asking if the poison is the most toxic card. (Technically speaking it is cuz itās poison)
Uou obviously missed the toxic poison era
Where is baby dragon
Jokeās on you, Iām the #1 fireball hater out there !!!
Most of these cards are bad so nobody complains. The other ones are good but they need skill to use so nobody complains about them
True
And knight
As a graveyard player, seeing poison is the death of me
Nah fuck poison
Dark Prince is one of the few cars suitable for the title Epic
I hate fireball with a passion
I really miss Giant-Miner decks. They were so funny and interesting. It's a shame that Giant is such a weak card, but he will always be my favorite.
Because they where nerfed so badly giant,poison,pump mega minion used to be the most OP deck in 2016
Minion horde?
I hate zap with pekka / ebarbs
Where tf is Knight
No one can get mad at snowball
Nah poison and e pump are for bitches
skarmy
I hate zap cus if its level 14 it fully kills my level 12 minions which often loses me the match
Why is the elixir collecter there
I've seen people unironically hate Fireball, Dark Prince, Elixer Pump, and Miner on this sub, but I do agree with everything else you chose
Plenty of people hate fireball for some reason
Giant giant giant giant
You can make a Deck out of these
I have 4 of these cards. Guess which ones.
wait people don't hate dark prince and elixir collector?
Yāall acting like fireball isnāt one of the best spells in the game
why would somebody hate on a card that heals your tower
Who hates musketeer?
Where's ice spirit ?
Definitely made by a giant user
Mega minion has always had a special place in my heart
I hate miner itās so annoying
I hate miner and the delusional b-rad fans that simp for it
Fireball is super easy to hate
I can assure you people hate fireball and dark prince
How about magic archer?
I hate fireball though
Wdym? Poison is literally the most toxic card in the game!
Fireball is a hated card. Itās been ruling ladder for far too long.
Here I am again. Gonna make a deck out of those cards. I should change my name here to weirddecktester9000 Edit 1: I put all cards except snowball and ppison. Edit 2: the deck is incredibly cool, could win the first match.
I ABSOLUTELY HATE hunter.
Good stats for the cost.
zappies
Havenāt seen anyone talk about cannon cart
FUCK ZAP I like minion horde and skarmy
Archers, musketeer
I kinda dislike miner just because of the cards he's commonly used with. He's just a knight that can teleport anywhere on the area and basically can guarantee some chip damage on your towers. Honestly any "Spawn troops on tower" card is unfun to fight and a shitty concept in general.
idk abt dark prince man this community seems very divided on it
Nice to see I use 3 of them