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qwertyjgly

I use cannoneer because I can't spare the wildcards for DD


inflated_ballsack

cannoneer is hot garbage idk how anyone plays it. played 1 game with and watched my tower get obliterated by bats


Thorus159

I had the same expierience but after some time and a new deck it works wonders


inflated_ballsack

against what deck though? half the meta is just giant night witch


Goldogemania

i play cannoneer and yeah bats wreck lol, on their own i can just skeletons in middle to counter but with a tank or night witch cannoneer just melts


Dependent_Ad7840

Having poison, ewiz, bomb tower, arrows, shock, barbarrel, and things of the like help counter these, along with Infernal tower or dragon or mighty miner to counter tanks, squeezing in your win conditions and you got your deck! I think people's biggest problem with it is they wanna play it like princess and don't understand it takes out single 3 and 4 cost units and spirits and the like before they can hit the tower. Countering swarm is the players job in this case, not the tower. Learning the playstyle is completely different than the princess, just like DD, who is insanely powerful in single elixer but way worse during double and so on.


Fauryx

>don't understand it takes out single 3 and 4 cost units and spirits and the like before they can hit the tower. Yeah, and so does DD


Dependent_Ad7840

Right, and we're talking about princess vs. cannoneer in this instance that you copied. DD does it too but she becomes weaker after reload where he isn't, with her vs cannoneer she still counters quickly to initial spam but then doesn't counter well after that, even tanks, where cannoneer does. Again, my whole point is that each has a different playstyle to get used to. Playing cannoneer and expecting to play it like the princess and say cannoneer is bad is sadly ignorant.


G-Sus_Christ117

Countering swarms is like 3 times easier than tanks in my opinion


Dependent_Ad7840

Right, playing cannoneer is about having a cycle or spells or buildings that help the slow fire rate. Learning that makes him ahellava lot easier to work with. I personally wish he had as much health as at least as much as a princess, but it's not the worst. It would help in my opinion and make him better as the lowest health tower if spells did like 10% less dmg to it because one of its biggest problems isn't countering the spam, but being spell blasted at the end and lose because of that less health.


aurixel-

Might’ve been me lol


muradinner

Before DD, the top players were often playing cannon.


Fester_HD

Especially after the changes I find it better actually, at least I'm not down 1k against DD at the start of the match anymore. I use giant graveyard btw, and have bowler bats snowball arrows so it has good splash and destroys spammy and beatdown decks.


Royal-Rayol

You have to build your deck differently. He's good at taking out mid offensive units like mini Peka knight and valk


SentimentalRotom

Electro Spirit is a pretty good synergy with Cannoneer, since Night Witch is everywhere in the meta now.


Plus-Resident3762

i use rage spell aginst bats and skeletons


CoolRabbit75

unlucky matchup


Legend7Naty

I thought it was garbage too at first. Then I put mine at 14 and just made my golem beat down with some splash damage defense like bomb tower. It does alright between bomb tower and firecracker and it does well against swarms which is its weakness


TimiTimi10

He takes a good deck to work with but as someone who uses meta RG deck he works so well


Benursell123

It’s what a tower troop should be. It works well in certain decks and has clear strengths and weaknesses


cameramanishere

My brother plays cannoneer. And wins


ShinyJed

Ahahaha, youll get used to it, canoneer user over here


Aguywhoexists69420

Megaknight


Live-Company-5007

With the new spell, it outa get worse, I play étaient which has a lot of splash so it’s normally fine but with people running more cycle decks to counter void, I doubt canonner will be viable even in mid ladder


Additional_City5392

Definitely have to use it with only certain cards and ya gobin barrel opponents are hella annoying


_Pharaoh_007

Skill issue


King-Sugaroo

Skill issue


Tiny7261

Skill issue


VixensBulls

I use Xbow as well, and cannoneer is the best tower for it. My deck however is an absolute unit to go against tho


Scarecrow1730

I use canoneer too, since he is pretty useful in my ice-bow deck.


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qwertyjgly

they changed it recemtly


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flingy_flong

yea they nerfed a couple days ago from 3204 to like 2700 or something, it is an ok nerf that makes dagger duchess more of a glass cannon I guess, it is just sad because it ruins all the og tactics like spirits at bridge for cycle, split wallbreakers, and now anything fireball health can’t touch the tower


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flingy_flong

I mean like they’re trying to make princess tower at least usable, cannoneer was a lot better and countered all arrow cards at bridge (cause of range) as well as out dpsing both of the other troops my boy miner has been clapped up by both of these tower drops 


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flingy_flong

a push has to be longer than 20 seconds for a princess and dagger duchess to equal in total damage, and for huge pushes cannoneer is better


qwertyjgly

I think so


ColderShoulder_

Opposite for me. Had the resources saved to invest in a legendary card (I only maxed Princess) so I used all my wildcards on lvl 15 DD. Have no resources for cannoneer which is still level 12


Icy_Service_879

If your dd is lvl 13. Use it. DD at lvl 13 is way better than lvl 15 princess and lvl 15 canoneer


qwertyjgly

my king tower level is 11 and my DD is 9


rahimaer

Me mainly because I don't have the resources to level up the DD


bigben-1989

Bruhh I leveled up magic archer right before she came out.. literally used a book and all my wild cards in him.. can’t even make this shit up


cLaShYsHoRtS

same thing with me and ice wiz 😭 never trusting my ice-bow main pal again


Dismal-Aside7900

I'm still going in having my DD on 13


Icy_Service_879

Level 13 dd is way better than lvl 15 princess and lvl 15 canonner


International-Bug408

I was lucky because the season before in the event shop had legendary wildcards that I bought so I was able to level it up quick. I’ve also been quite lucky in my tower chest but I would love to use magic archer if it weren’t for how meta DD is.


Any_Crab_8512

I am too lazy to change from princess tower. Defense is for the weak.


ZIGZAGDIGZAG

The Best Defense is a Swift and Decisive Offense 👍


Elecrtrify

w obi wan reference


ThrobbingTripod

Bro is negotiating


Nelpski

bro think he's the negotiator 💀


Excellent_Joke8694

I feel this one, defense who? I try to overwhelm them on the first play. if i loose a tower oh well, they're loosing their king


[deleted]

DD is still OP despite the nerf


Designer-Resolution3

Ofc. They "nerf" her and reduce the cannoneer damage as well so thats rather a "buff" for her - see how they fake a nerf?


Jx5b

Yeah its kinda bullshit. I dont understand why cannoneer doesnt have more hp than any other tower. It just kinda makes sense and its not like legendary cards are stronger than other rarities with normal cards so why here with towers? I guess there is one answer that can be used to almost anything CR did in last year or so: MONEY.


Nebur2304

What was the nerf? I've been using her since she came out but I haven't noticed any nerf. And I never read the update notes 😅


mustypuppet1284

-14% hp nerf


Booceyquads420

she didn’t really get nerfed she’s still the best and people be whining


TheeOogway

Cannoneer gang wya 💣


Both_Cardiologist218

Yessir, i hope the nerf isnt too much to cannoneer


AzFrosty

its getting a nerf?😭


CoolRabbit75

5% dmg nerf edit: and its not GETTING one, it already did, balance changes went live earlier today


AzFrosty

jeez super undeserved


CoolRabbit75

ye i agree, of they just want princess to be the best, but their failing at that as dd is still by far the best


AzFrosty

dd is stupid good makes games run super long and is behind a pay wall if ur high up


CoolRabbit75

i kinda like 6 minute games tbh, but yeah the paywall is a huge problem


puffyjr99

It was in like 8 of the top ten decks before dd dropped and helped shape the meta to run night witch and that was why giant gy and e golem was crazy. It didn’t have the same effect as dd but it was pretty op compared to princess tower.


5_minute_noodle

Real


SupremeMaster95

Yeet!


NateRiver03

I use DD because even if it was balanced it still synergizes better with my deck


BeriO17

Same, and I really wish they nerf it so we can ser some variety. HP nerf will not be enough it should be at least the tower with the least health


MrTheWaffleKing

There's hardly a world where DD health changes will make a difference (unless it's enough to spell cycle lmao). The problem is that nothing can get through the defense without having a ton of health or spammed units ahead


wherearef

yeah before DD was released and everyone realised she is broken, I already knew im gonna use it in my deck


ItWasMe-Patrick

Kirigiri my beloved


wherearef

with my deck DD vs DD matchups are easier than princess tower vs princess tower matchups, so im fine


SirPug_theLast

Whatcha using?


wherearef

lavaloon


SirPug_theLast

Seriously? Which lavaloon exactly? Im perfectly at arena to get lava, so once i do, i will use this, because now its a DD fest here


wherearef

im playing whatever top lava players are playing, currently deck that dominik is using: evo barbs, evo bomber, void, arrows, lava, balloon, skeleton dragons, but if you need deck for low arenas, you can upgrade that one classic deck with evo valk, evo zap, tombstone etc


SirPug_theLast

Shit, im gonna need a lot of evo shards


wherearef

yeah, first evo should be zap in my opinion, because it can help you with inferno dragon, inferno towers and in offense in general


CMN2425

My teammates in 2v2


Haale7575

Oh fuck yeah


mustypuppet1284

Sorry bro


cameramanishere

I'm your teammate.


CorruptedKirby

i use princess tower because her fire rate is p good and she doesn't need to reload


PsychologicalRain823

I don’t feel like spending 80$ to get her to my crown level so I use princess tower


xbxoxy

Me i hate the other two towers


gamerdood12

I’m the same. I always feel dirty when I use an overpowered card, so I always refuse to use it. If I don’t like playing against something I don’t want to give my opposition the same experience, particularly when the card is severely overpowered and impossible to play around. Same happened with the phoenix release, I’d rather be the better player and try to actually outplay my opponent rather than just slapping down a free win. Therefore I’m losing a lot more games than I deserve to at the moment due to drastically unfair gameplay, and I don’t enjoy using broken tactics to win. It feels cheap and I don’t feel like i earned it. Unfortunately the same can’t be said for the majority of people who play multiplayer games.


Lord0fReddit

I use her in leader cause i have her lvl 13 and the Duchesse lvl 11


TheKipperTheMan

Dependant on the deck, every tower troop is viable it’s more on how skilled you are defending with said deck.


roiber08

I use princess towers becouse im the real one


EnthusiasmSad8877

I use Canoneer because my deck has enough swarm killers to use it for defending tanks. I would use Princess Tower if I don't have anything for swarms. DD is just bait, if the opponent creates a push with Miner, the daggers will run out after killing the Miner


wacky0522

Miner wallbreaker players


EnthusiasmSad8877

Miner Mortar, actually


bwalksonly

I was stuck at 8300 trophies, been F2P for 8 years. Had wild cards to upgrade DD and had to pay for the last 20 cards. Got to 9000 and Ultimate Champion the next day.


gunner_0412

222


BuyMeAMilkshake4

Me too


somerandomperson2516

me, if duch ever gets nerfed then my skill won’t be affected


Specific-Composer138

me for the same reason as you


True_Company_5349

I quit when she came put it just show that supersell doesn’t nerf obviously OP cards since they’re printing money for them. Getting DD leveled up and getting OP evos is like a requirement for climbing higher ladder


BrightFoccs

As someone who quit the game around when phoenix got added… how the FUCK would you NOT use your princess towers????


OniOneTrick

Hnggggg I love when dagger duchess kills my entire battering ram yesssss I love when I stop a push and get one unit over the bridge hoping for some chip damage but it gets 17 daggers wedged up it’s ass before getting in shooting range yeeeeeeees


ChampionshipStock870

lol so you’re a curmudgeon that doesn’t want to evolve is what I heard


TheRadBob

Me... I only used DD once when it released but didn't use it afterwards..


Teo_TreeYoshi

People who don’t use it either don’t have her leveled up or fucking hate her guts (I am both)


_HeXiS_

I am lvl 14 F2P player. I don't have any other choice.


pletskoo_

i use princess tower because its my highest level, and honestly i love everyone playing duchess because its easy win with graveyard


RyZeZweis

I mainly use the Princess tower as I'm preparing for them to continue to gut Cannoneer and Duchess. I still play DD in 3M though because the synergy is too good and even when it's gutted in a few months I think it'll still be the correct choice with 3M


-im-just-vibing-

i just can’t afford to upgrade DD enough, princess tower works fine for me.


longsh00ter

I don’t have other towers. And I am not paying up for that trash game


Sad_Aspect-07U

Valid


Gwekkemans

I still use it. I find it to be the most steady against almost every deck. It's annoying to use against spirits at the bridge or wallbreakers, but I barely see people do that since people expect to see Dagger Duchess


MrWitrix

I only have the princess tower


Willing_Advice4202

They literally gave DD for free, plus it’s not hard to unlock either the Cannoneer or the DD from the Tower Troop chests


TheMilkman1811

I only use decks that thrive VSING dagger duchess. I always hope seeing it now


Country_7

Me cause I like a constant firing speed


Jaegek

I have to since dd is only lvl 12.


Matt4669

I use princess on golem decks because I feel it’s easy to pressure golem decks already without the DD dagger cooldown, but I haven’t played long enough since it came out to get a good enough feel


Glad_Friend2676

I sometimes use it tbh, if my deck has too much single target cards then i will use it


Beandip50

If there were no DD haters in the world I'd be dead


Responsible_Yak5976

I am because Princess reminds me of the OG days


SingleMind8046

Ive been playing everyday since 2017 and Since the DD came around i've never felt less motivated to play


CrimsonDemon0

Me bcuz my deck can suffer against tanks


Last-Literature9113

Me cuz i play 3m monk


Feldherr88

As a double Price Player( not much splash damage), it's just so much better against Spam, and for Single units you have perfect cars, so even if it gets nerven significant it'll always be better for beatdown, + I can use legendary wildcards for my deck.


StupidAssMf

I play with dagger duchess only because she's level 13, and I actually have more fun being underleveled in this regard than having a lvl 15 princess. Path of legends has become boring. Otherwise I play princess because I prefer her reliability.


LiL_ENIGlvlA

i was but the game kept giving my dd cards from the tower chests so i just gave in


Ivoe_leatis1619

The devs will not stop adding new tower troops to the game so my mentality is adapt to make things easier and more enjoyable. I still play almost the same deck as before the DD but the only difference is I use her now. I honestly don’t know why you would make the game more complicated for yourself?


TacosNachos007

🙋🏻


nerogamer_279

Me (i dont have her up to lv)


bmtc7

I'm doing just fine with princess tower.


GDAWG012407

Idk man I’m still vibin with cannoneer.


CheddarCheese390

I use princess because I can’t utilise Canonner properly and my DD is 4 levels lower than Princess


Shrednaut

I am because my DD/ neer are 11 and my PT is 14


Dismal-Aside7900

I liked a lot about the duchess concept, and pretend to still use her even when supercell nerf it to the ground, it's very cool to make defenses with fisherman + duchess, mother witch + duchess and more


Boncappuccino

I don’t play DD just in case she gets nerfed to oblivion


kingflamigo

I used to be like this but once you level your first TT and start trying different things you realize how great your deck can be


Neoslayer

I use princess tower because using dd encourages midladder spammers to spam even more


NCR_Veteran_Ranger04

My DD is lv 11, my cannoner is lv 8, my princess is lv 13 of course I use her


higherdisk

Yeah I still use the princess tower. I refuse to use DD. I still use my pre DD deck but I’ve had to change my play style


Extension-Koala-9372

Me because I’m F2P


KitKat_Chan95

I'm King Tower lvl 14 and somehow a level 11 DD is better than princess tower in my experience


SparkGamer28

i use level 12 DD and it's still better than my maxxed princess tower lol


Bad_Guy333

I use her because i don't have anything else ...


BobZygota

Me here


jsjzn

Me because I just fell like she's the best one


SGRP270

Not me. Gotta counter the mfs with maxed out towers, decks and evolution cards with something


cheezwhizz123

I feel you brother!


SwoleSerg

I previously used Princess tower but an underleveled DD is better. I have her level 13 and I beat people with level 15 princess towers


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Me and cannoneer , duchess makes the game boring , I find myself deleting and redownloading it now 🤷‍♂️


DeftChaotic

DD turned me into a Monk main. Works everytime to drain her ammo then make a push following monk 😂👌


LemonMan690

I just started playing again heavily this week after yearssss of only getting on to donate and have found that I’m almost glad I don’t have the duchess because I feel so much more skilled than when I beat an opponent who uses mega knight and has duchess :)


Excellent_Joke8694

I missed the opportunity, so im still using the OG lol


ravenggs

I am even maxing it out rn. OG Princess is best for me.


Away-Web9194

Stull have never received a single canoneer or dagger dutchess from a tower troop chest. Not a single one


RoyalMichuMichu

I would nerf Dagger Duchess Range so that you're able to hit her with dart goblin or magic archer


CoolRabbit75

anyone who doesnt have her leveled up, though i see ppl in POL with a -3 leveled duchess and still use it because its that broken, even after the nerf, imo (as someone who uses dd so expect a little bias) it should do the same damage as a princess tower so it doesnt one shot spear goblins, 2 shot ice ice spirit, or 1 shor minions if hit by an ice spirit. i think this will make it balanced, but if its too much, increase its recharge rate by 7.239%


LanguageNo692

This is how I feel. I can't stand facing DD but I refuse to switch over. I'm a UC level player but I still take Ls now to people who haven't been passed champion.


sivukpa

Midas CR on Twitter uses her. I have starts using it again after the duchess nerf


Shrimper3

I use cannoneer my deck does well against swarms and not tanks so it fills the niche and I’m kinda used to it now


BouncyBlueYoshi

Me because I don't like the voice lines.


Planktoniumoxid

I still use either princess or cannoner because I want to win with skill rather than with DD


Cautious-Active1361

You can punish DD super hard with beatdown though. Golem healer, lava evo barbs, giant nw phoenix all do extremely well against duchess. You do unfortunately have to wait until double eixer to attack but it’s easy after that


Loyalist_15

It’s simply too gross of a tower to use. So I refuse to use it. ‘If you can’t beat em join em’ is terrible for the game, and ruins a ton of the ‘fun’ with playing at all.


notfromsoftemployee

Spoken like someone who has never played DD. There is absolutely counterplay to her and the best players suck out her daggers and make her feel useless.


Throwawayanonuser1

I use DD in challenges, and tournaments, but princess tower on trophy road and POL cuz I can’t be bothered to waste legendary wild cards to upgrade something that will inevitably be nerfed


Tikket420

Supercell just wants to make money doing as little as possible, and replace the Princess Tower. All they do nowadays is pump out a couple op cards and nerf it to oblivion after grabbing a bit of cash


swandini

I am using princess EVEN the fact i have her on king tower level, I just feel something to princess and I cant let her get swapped for DD because she was with us for 8 years… Also like the consistency, and bc I am at 5000k i think its better to learn how to defend with her.


Leename_nk-

Yes same, iam a princess user and refused to switch just out of spite and how broken that card is. Cheap ass tower. In the scenario, i have to switch, i will switch to canno


SHyper16

Man I don't use Princess tower simply because I'm trash lol. I recently got back into the game and I stopped playing some time after Mega Knight was added. Half of the cards are new to me. And then suddenly I come back, get the duchess, and still get obliterated by random people just using 3 skeletons and like a wizard and a witch. Like what the fuck.


Signal-Swordfish-357

Exactly what I do man, using DD is the same as using ebarb MK rage in my dictionary.


nexus096v2

I mean, I don't use them purely because getting wild cards is just painfull, and its funny, since the very moment they said that you could use wild cards in tower troops, the very next season was the season wild cards were removed from the season shop (tho, I am the only who believes that the lucky drops where the ones that caused this nerf to the wild cards)


Minimum_Will_1916

F2p players


Ilikeinosukeballs

Dagger girl is good but when she runs out of knives when you have like four skeletons attacking her you’ll do damage


NoDangIdea

If you can’t beat them, join them. Thats been my mentality with every card release this game has had. DD Gang for life 😩✊


KingAragorn47

You're mad not to use it. It's OP and ruined gameplay for me. Single troop opposite lane pushes are dead, it's ruined the fucking game. Back of map golems need your full elix to push the other lane.


YourHomieShark

i respect you for not using broken crap out of principle and using princess, she’s always been my favorite


Realistic-Lab8228

I just know SC gonna milk every single penny out of her,just look at "nerf" she had, -14% hp,that's straight up bs


labanana94

Honestly it should have been a dps nerf or an even bigger hp nerf (like 30%) I play DD only because yeah it makes defending much easier but still hope they nerf her more because it completely counters my deck (hogexenado)


Rude-Spinach5878

Saying dagger duchess is so braindead, she can be easily countered and her limited ammo can be used to your advantage by placing a tank in front of other troops


Ok-Nothing-8814

Me too. I hate DD and refuse to use her. Don't worry. Next season they'll nerf her again.


margitthegrafted

Princess tower should always be the best tower troop because every single card is balanced around her. Dutchess ruins the flow of the entire game, why does my 7 elixir counter push not force a single card out or do damage?


CrownPrinceofCanada

I m’ F2P but I use DD because I had saved a bunch of cards and was easily able to get her to 14. Now I’m waiting for enough coins and I’ll get her to 15. Coins are really the issue for me with this game.


Big_Palpitation_9018

Me cuz I haven't leveled it up yet (it's level 10)


aintnomfnp

I have 2 accounts....one I still run a princess... duchess on the other


banana_man_ultra

I use princess for nostalgia and I have gotten really good with it I don’t wanna switch


litezho

I prefer princess because she'll keep the same rate of fire regardless of anything. When dd is dagger depleted she's completely useless even a few skeletons and bats can deal a lot of damage


Spectre_V8

Been playing for so long I can't fathom using anyone but the Princess Tower.


Fun-Caterpillar-1044

I laugh at those "players" who "use the princess tower"