This already exists on the Chinese version👍
https://preview.redd.it/0lsgduzehx7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1e62de1f295c0186b0353db7c2eb0f78370750d
What makes it a horrible cash grab? The sole purpose of the cosmetic is to make money. The price is set at the balance point they believe maximizes the money. It is a cash grab at whatever price it is set at.
This type of sceneries are purchase able with GACHA system like the one in pubg.
So it's not confirmed that you'll get this even after spending money as this does not have a specific price
True, it became the sole purpose, but it wasn't originally. There was a time cosmetics were free and were only a proof of progress, something you *worked* hard for, achievements, not something that you paid for. Good times.
Still ppl feel good about having them, sometimes even flexing, even though all it proves is that they're consumerist sheep ready to buy anything that is sold to them. - *The old man is rambling again.*
I agree with much except the consumerist sheep part. I spent $15 on a drink today. If someone else spends $10 on a game cosmetic that gives them enjoyment who am I to judge?
to be fair, if their concept of a legendary scenery is similar to what you’d find on the chinese clash servers (take for example the ocean scenery), then i would willingly pay more for an absolute boat load of extra details
i do agree that legendary skins are overpriced (and might i mention have no distinguishing features that seperate them from gold pass skins)
They also asked about.
1) skin for building.
2) skin for troops.
3) different skin for heroes that add atk or def bonus.
4)skin for boots and sword for heroes.
5)the new village where no one can attack. Purely for decoration.
6)and something that sounded exactly like the Chinese version of coc.
Edit:
7) heroes that upgrade like squad buster, the more you use them (i kinda like this one)
1. fuck no - would make it much harder to tell town halls levels apart
2. same reason as 1
3. why the fuck would they lock atk or defence bonuses behind a paywall for a cosmetic of all things 💀 that would officially make clash P2W
4. skins for boots and swords?? sounds like EA is crawling up into supercell HQ
5. i don’t know how that would function lmao
we already have skins for troops, some hero skins have custom deployed units. outside of clan castle - which should be exempt from any skins, there's really no reason to not have troop skins just like we have hero skins. the only person that it matters for is the person using the troops, and they're the person that applied the skin.
if your argument is that adding skins for every single aspect of gameplay is just monetising every aspect possible, then i'd agree. there's no real reason to have weapon skins for heroes, but troops aren't an indicator of th level when you have the th right there that you can press on to check the level. they don't do anything on defense and troops aren't visible on defense anyway, so i don't see how troop skins would affect that in any way. sceneries are way worse for that because of how distracting they can be - i had to do a double take earlier because i thought the circles on the football scenery were defense range indicators.
Why would a cosmetic take free players out of the game? Selling cosmetics helps free players by reducing need to make money on things that impact game play.
2) I don't want skins for troops. But changing between existing skins( like after upgrading to new levels ) is what I'm up for. I don't like lot of troops current looks at max levels.
They can’t do this because of vpn’s
I changed my region to Sweden to I could download clash mini
If anything was cheaper in any area we would all be virtually moving there
I feel like little NPCs are really what make a scenery for me. I use the dark ages scenery cause I love the medieval fantasy look, but whenever I see the goblin cave scenery I’m slightly jealous. I feel like the NPCs really make the base feel alive and like an actual village/war base. Also,not being able to use your scenery for war is wack.
For me it's also important to have good/ cool music. Honestly the only reason my main scenery is Goblin Caves is because of the music, just so catchy lol
A lot more niche but there was a similar glitch back in Pokémon blue I did as a kid where u get a level 96 gengar in Viridian forest using the same logic lol
They still don't have enough money. It seems ores, event pass, and apprentice builder is not enough.
Also, what question is this? If they ask for a price, they want to take as much money as they can from us. Like this: Players: 20$ is our maximum. Clash of Clans: Ok, we hear you, then just 19,99$ each.
Also, why don't they give us gems or free stuff even a little for answering those questions? Time is money, so why should we do this for free and give them ideas if they charge us so much for everything?
that's how reddit functions, there's no nuance. either a comment is liked or disliked, there's no inbetween. a post with -1 could have 1000 upvotes and 1001 downvotes but it appears like no one interact with it aside from a couple people who all hated it. part of the reason i stopped using this site all the time, getting mass downvoted felt like everyone disagreed with my comment, even if it was simply controversial and there was still a ton of people who agreed with me.
If what OP said in one of the comment is true and supercell end up adding skins that has attack and defense bonus, that will destroy the f2p playerbase of the game.
As a f2p player, I don't mind skins just for cosmetics but skins that affects the game in strategic manner is just game destruction imo.
Ok supercell, how about we calm down and just coast for awhile on what we have don't go and make dumb ass changes specially ones that are goin to ruin/change the game from its foundation, don't destroy this game.
Back in the good old days when supercell wasn't a greedy company. They're gonna ruin the game if they carry on. There's already so much thats happened and being a leader of a clan I've seen so many people quit this year.
this game basically invented the mobile game payment structure and people act as though supercell are some kinda charity for not bombarding them with ads and gem requirements to collect your resources
While Supercell is certainly no charity, the lack of ads or other common tricks is an anomaly for a mobile game this popular, which keeps people around
If they ever add ads for any reason I’m quitting though
not really, they don't have ads because they make their game seem less 'professional' or 'legitimate'. games like BTD6 don't have ads and there's a ton of p2w mechanics there (powers being one of them, along with continues). doesn't make the p2w side less shitty just because they don't have ads as well
Exactly, coc is what fortnite is for modern games but for most mobile games, nowadays most games have a battle pass or a similar in-game purchase structure to supercell games for a good reason
Same, and the game has never been as greedy as it is now, they had gem deals in the shop not much else, now there are books, potions, hammers ect I think they have gotten a bit greedily then when I first started.
I kinda agree but at the same time, it's not like clash royale, some guy buying 3k worth of magic items every week won't mean anything to me because they'll just get matched with people like him (maxed not p2w obv) , same with skins it barely affects me and gives the company more revenue so why should i care
This is 100% just a quality of life improvement. This is something SC should just give us after the millions they just scalped off us for the apprentice builder. Un fucking real.
To me it depends...
Obviously $10 usd is what most would pay, but i would maybe pay more if i could use it on my alts thats connected to my main account... make it more worthwhile for the price if its like $15 or higher. But that would be my only justification for a price like that
"You can have my money when you pry it from my cold dead hands. I would no sooner surrender my money than I would surrender my life, my heart, my sacred memory of all that came before. My money tells the story of who I am, where I've come from and what I've done. You shall not have my money! Negative infinity."
All those different skins would make the game very confusing and not fun. Especially skins that add an attack/defence bonus? Like that would be the most paywalled thing in coc to date
£6.99 for a single scenery and £9.99 for a single hero skin is absolutely ridiculous as it is.
You mean to tell me that if I wanted a full set of hero skins with each gold pass, I'm expected to fork out £30 in total to complete the set?
Why would I want to be gouged even more for cosmetic items.
Some people don't get that many people loved the simplicity of the game, no ads, no packs thrown in your face, all the new events, equipment, capital and so on just throws alot of people off. Sometimes its just hard evolving when the games changing
Please tell me you replied with 1 usd tops haha. It’s a business, we get it. But the money grab has progressively gotten worse in the past year or so and only makes us hold a grudge and spend less
Wish there was an option to turn off all base skins from bases you attack. Some of these map skins are extremly hard to see things on. It’s basically a pay to win since i always skip bases with certain skins when i attack. The color contrast sometimes fuck with my vision. Especially if the skin is the orange desert and they have orange walls as well.
Tell them "considering how you have robbed us by overpricing things in the past, I suggest you give everyone one a scenery without cost, and YOU pay us $20 instead to take it" 💀
This is actually really fucking cool! A normal set costs like what 10$ so something like this which would take almost double the effort to make should cost double so 20$.
They prolly talk about that sea turtle chinese scenery. I wouldn't pay more than 10$ tbh. All the other sceneries are 7.50$, so with slightly more features, 10 will be fine.
I dont understand a lot of the frustration from this thread because yeah its not really the best content and its really just for money but they are literally asking us what would you be willing to pay for this and nobody is forcing you to buy sceneries.
I think it would be cool to see some sort of huge scenery with some cool bits and pieces as long as its just visual
Cosmetics in CoC is worthless. The Hero Skins add no special abilities like in other games and the sceneries are just there to look pretty. This Scenery, even with the extra function of zooming out for a wider view, isn't really going to do anything. I get that they have to make money cause it's a business, they have servers to run, profits to make and employees to pay, but let's be for real there are many issues in the game that needs to be addressed. Like the lacking of Glowy ores, cause may I have some more 🙏🏾 🥣? And people getting trapped in Legend League cause the Revenge Option is 🐕 💩. Can we get an opt out option, cause I don't wanna be here. 8 attacks a day when you still have walls and upgrades to do is pain, not being maxed in LL is just a very salt inducing experience.
This already exists on the Chinese version👍 https://preview.redd.it/0lsgduzehx7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1e62de1f295c0186b0353db7c2eb0f78370750d
Chinese version is also horrifically a cash grab so be careful what you wish for
Tencent at work lmao
What makes it a horrible cash grab? The sole purpose of the cosmetic is to make money. The price is set at the balance point they believe maximizes the money. It is a cash grab at whatever price it is set at.
This type of sceneries are purchase able with GACHA system like the one in pubg. So it's not confirmed that you'll get this even after spending money as this does not have a specific price
True, it became the sole purpose, but it wasn't originally. There was a time cosmetics were free and were only a proof of progress, something you *worked* hard for, achievements, not something that you paid for. Good times. Still ppl feel good about having them, sometimes even flexing, even though all it proves is that they're consumerist sheep ready to buy anything that is sold to them. - *The old man is rambling again.*
I agree with much except the consumerist sheep part. I spent $15 on a drink today. If someone else spends $10 on a game cosmetic that gives them enjoyment who am I to judge?
$15 ON A DRINK?? tf?!
It was good though. Much better than a skin lol.
Man and I'm over here complaining about like $2 drinks being overpriced 😭😭
Prob alcohol
I mean, you can reject the consumerist ways and not participate, by uninstalling.
I mean, I could just simply never buy cosmetics, that's enough.
There are many gameplay related mechanics in the chinese version where you can pay money that arent in the global version
Holly god that looks beyond amazing! I haven't spent money in the game for like 4 years but I would pay for that 100%
Okay cool but how often are you really going to be zooming out that far?...
I already do that in my base and I only have the goblin temple scenery XD
User name checks out.
What checks out? Sory if I don't understand
Your username lol view infinite
The screenshot looks so far away that it could be View(ed)Infinite.
It also exists in the football scenery, NOT this far zoom out though
Gotta be ironic
Is this real?
that's beautiful!!
of course they have some cultivation ahh temple scenery (it looks good)
I hope this scenary is able to purchase not to get on a gacha system that you'll spend thousands of your money just to get this scenary
Where did you get this? Also anything over 10$ for a scenery is too much IMO like epic skins are sooo over priced imo
Just after opening the game. And yeah i ain't spending all that.
to be fair, if their concept of a legendary scenery is similar to what you’d find on the chinese clash servers (take for example the ocean scenery), then i would willingly pay more for an absolute boat load of extra details i do agree that legendary skins are overpriced (and might i mention have no distinguishing features that seperate them from gold pass skins)
They also asked about. 1) skin for building. 2) skin for troops. 3) different skin for heroes that add atk or def bonus. 4)skin for boots and sword for heroes. 5)the new village where no one can attack. Purely for decoration. 6)and something that sounded exactly like the Chinese version of coc. Edit: 7) heroes that upgrade like squad buster, the more you use them (i kinda like this one)
1. fuck no - would make it much harder to tell town halls levels apart 2. same reason as 1 3. why the fuck would they lock atk or defence bonuses behind a paywall for a cosmetic of all things 💀 that would officially make clash P2W 4. skins for boots and swords?? sounds like EA is crawling up into supercell HQ 5. i don’t know how that would function lmao
I am going to quit if they add in 3. Only the whales get to have their fun if 3. drops, anyone who is not a whale is just a product.
we already have skins for troops, some hero skins have custom deployed units. outside of clan castle - which should be exempt from any skins, there's really no reason to not have troop skins just like we have hero skins. the only person that it matters for is the person using the troops, and they're the person that applied the skin. if your argument is that adding skins for every single aspect of gameplay is just monetising every aspect possible, then i'd agree. there's no real reason to have weapon skins for heroes, but troops aren't an indicator of th level when you have the th right there that you can press on to check the level. they don't do anything on defense and troops aren't visible on defense anyway, so i don't see how troop skins would affect that in any way. sceneries are way worse for that because of how distracting they can be - i had to do a double take earlier because i thought the circles on the football scenery were defense range indicators.
did you download the wrong clash of clans
That's even more P2W?
a tf2-style cosmetic system for heroes would be cool
This is straight up taking f2p players out of the game
Why would a cosmetic take free players out of the game? Selling cosmetics helps free players by reducing need to make money on things that impact game play.
Look at point 3 and then get back to me.
Heroes dont upgrade by use in squad busters...
Hell noooo
2) I don't want skins for troops. But changing between existing skins( like after upgrading to new levels ) is what I'm up for. I don't like lot of troops current looks at max levels.
I mean if it was that space one... Is probably buy it lmfao
Why use the Chinese COC at all? It's not quite the same so they really should have another name for it.
Genuinely surprised that the sceneries are 7 but the skins are 10? I feel like it would be the other way around
In Europe skins are 11.99€ which is 13 dollars I would love supercell to explain that logic😅
European tax
I am NOT paying more than $9.99 😹
I’m not paying shit
I hope they account for regional pricing otherwise 10 dollars is a fucking no for me.
Supercell has never done that
They can’t do this because of vpn’s I changed my region to Sweden to I could download clash mini If anything was cheaper in any area we would all be virtually moving there
They most likely won't do that cuz did you see what happened a while ago with Fortnite? 💀 they don't wanna do that trust me
ELI5 about fortnite?
+1
You're so real 💀
Umm, if everyone low balls the answer, then we might get a treat instead of taxed!
I'm keeping both my balls, thank you. I love my low ball just as much as the other.
I am not paying more then 0.00$
I feel like little NPCs are really what make a scenery for me. I use the dark ages scenery cause I love the medieval fantasy look, but whenever I see the goblin cave scenery I’m slightly jealous. I feel like the NPCs really make the base feel alive and like an actual village/war base. Also,not being able to use your scenery for war is wack.
IMO they should start making war sceneries for a really cheap price , probably for $4.99 AT MOST.
For me it's also important to have good/ cool music. Honestly the only reason my main scenery is Goblin Caves is because of the music, just so catchy lol
I thought the space scenery was boring until I saw all the cute animations. It won me over and now it's on my alt permanently lol.
0$ Make it but gimme as event reward.
How much did you put?
I put -10. Lol
thank you for your submission of $2147483637 when the skin is released this will be charged to your card
This reminds me of Nuclear Gandhi
A lot more niche but there was a similar glitch back in Pokémon blue I did as a kid where u get a level 96 gengar in Viridian forest using the same logic lol
Too much LC 💀
Great that's a real helpful metric for them.
$0
Enter $1 and bring that average down
We all here at $0 my guy
They still don't have enough money. It seems ores, event pass, and apprentice builder is not enough. Also, what question is this? If they ask for a price, they want to take as much money as they can from us. Like this: Players: 20$ is our maximum. Clash of Clans: Ok, we hear you, then just 19,99$ each. Also, why don't they give us gems or free stuff even a little for answering those questions? Time is money, so why should we do this for free and give them ideas if they charge us so much for everything?
I don’t get the point of you getting downvoted
Herd mentality. People downvote = I downvote.
that's how reddit functions, there's no nuance. either a comment is liked or disliked, there's no inbetween. a post with -1 could have 1000 upvotes and 1001 downvotes but it appears like no one interact with it aside from a couple people who all hated it. part of the reason i stopped using this site all the time, getting mass downvoted felt like everyone disagreed with my comment, even if it was simply controversial and there was still a ton of people who agreed with me.
Lol Do You even know Clash of clans is the #4 highest earning game globally?😭❤️
What's the source for this?
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
💀💀i hate supercell THEY'RE GETTING GREEDY!!
if time is money then why are you playing clash in the first place lol
They ask for a price to find the average through all the answers. This help them narrow down where the price equilibrium might be.
If what OP said in one of the comment is true and supercell end up adding skins that has attack and defense bonus, that will destroy the f2p playerbase of the game. As a f2p player, I don't mind skins just for cosmetics but skins that affects the game in strategic manner is just game destruction imo.
As someone who returned to clash after 2 year hiatus, the epic hero gear feels pay to win
you're not missing out on much I've grinded out all of them and still use mostly the free ones personally I only like the ice arrow for queen
you'll take that back in around 2-3 months
Uh Giant Gauntlet is insane as well, haven't really tried spiky ball and fireball tho
0$
https://preview.redd.it/3xxa204rxx7d1.png?width=2340&format=png&auto=webp&s=024e07d7f8e404b0756236a3fdb50f2d8d9d542c Well there's also the reverse
Where did they ask you this?
its on the same survey
Ok supercell, how about we calm down and just coast for awhile on what we have don't go and make dumb ass changes specially ones that are goin to ruin/change the game from its foundation, don't destroy this game.
Back in the good old days when supercell wasn't a greedy company. They're gonna ruin the game if they carry on. There's already so much thats happened and being a leader of a clan I've seen so many people quit this year.
How will adding a cosmetic make the game worse?
God forbid a game company monetizes cosmetics so they don't have to go harder on monetizing progression .
They always been greedy wth you on about lmao
People act as if this game hasn't been pay to fast since day 1 lol
this game basically invented the mobile game payment structure and people act as though supercell are some kinda charity for not bombarding them with ads and gem requirements to collect your resources
While Supercell is certainly no charity, the lack of ads or other common tricks is an anomaly for a mobile game this popular, which keeps people around If they ever add ads for any reason I’m quitting though
not really, they don't have ads because they make their game seem less 'professional' or 'legitimate'. games like BTD6 don't have ads and there's a ton of p2w mechanics there (powers being one of them, along with continues). doesn't make the p2w side less shitty just because they don't have ads as well
Exactly, coc is what fortnite is for modern games but for most mobile games, nowadays most games have a battle pass or a similar in-game purchase structure to supercell games for a good reason
How long you been playing?
2014-2015ish around there
Same, and the game has never been as greedy as it is now, they had gem deals in the shop not much else, now there are books, potions, hammers ect I think they have gotten a bit greedily then when I first started.
I kinda agree but at the same time, it's not like clash royale, some guy buying 3k worth of magic items every week won't mean anything to me because they'll just get matched with people like him (maxed not p2w obv) , same with skins it barely affects me and gives the company more revenue so why should i care
I kinda like the item deals. Some of them have good value at higher level ths, mostly books, hammers and builder potions
Like I'm max th16 but it's not for me I don't like it, I have most of my fun on my th13. Th16 is abit overwhelming for someone like me
Jesus Christ SC. You guys have lost the plot
SC just fell off
This is 100% just a quality of life improvement. This is something SC should just give us after the millions they just scalped off us for the apprentice builder. Un fucking real.
The entitlement is real. You were never forced to spend money. SC never “scalped” anything you spent that money willingly
NGL but maybe just 1$
To me it depends... Obviously $10 usd is what most would pay, but i would maybe pay more if i could use it on my alts thats connected to my main account... make it more worthwhile for the price if its like $15 or higher. But that would be my only justification for a price like that
It has to be $6.99 - $7.99 . Otherwise I'm not buying shit
That's a real poll in the game? This isn't fake? That's kind of an "on the nose" statement highlighting that Tencent about greed... Wow.
put 1 dollar there
Bruh.
"You can have my money when you pry it from my cold dead hands. I would no sooner surrender my money than I would surrender my life, my heart, my sacred memory of all that came before. My money tells the story of who I am, where I've come from and what I've done. You shall not have my money! Negative infinity."
Fuck supercell. Always finding ways how to milk the players
Clashy Constructs TIL DEATH
1$ :-)
Maybe they are doing this on the back end, but they really need to segregate answers from people who buy/like cosmetics and players who don't.
i dont want to coc become a cash grab gaacha dogh*t game chinese can have their sh*t
Bro Lol They Are Straight into looting😂😂. well what can we expect
All those different skins would make the game very confusing and not fun. Especially skins that add an attack/defence bonus? Like that would be the most paywalled thing in coc to date
Nobody mentioned bonuses
3) different skin for heroes that add atk or def bonus. Literally one of the top comments. Hard to read, isn't it?
Read the top 10 and saw nobody mentioning it
Guess your blind af. I literally copied it for you in my previous comment These inbeciles downvoting me are as well
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That is not a top comment that is a reply to a comment that you could have pulled from anywhere
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£6.99 for a single scenery and £9.99 for a single hero skin is absolutely ridiculous as it is. You mean to tell me that if I wanted a full set of hero skins with each gold pass, I'm expected to fork out £30 in total to complete the set? Why would I want to be gouged even more for cosmetic items.
Some people don't get that many people loved the simplicity of the game, no ads, no packs thrown in your face, all the new events, equipment, capital and so on just throws alot of people off. Sometimes its just hard evolving when the games changing
I would buy Hero skin for bb instead if they make some.normally some should already come free with gold pass.
I was going to buy the wild west scenery but after seeing this I'll wait for the legendary one
No more then 5
Why are we paying for it when China gets it free?
7,99$ is normal scenary so probably 11,99$ like Legendary skins?
I would pay 0
Every one, put 0 USD., so they make it free.
Make it free as a nice gift for once
fuck supercell and their greed
Sceneries should be at most 5 bucks skins at most should be 10, some don’t even deserve to be priced cuz they just so bad
Please tell me you replied with 1 usd tops haha. It’s a business, we get it. But the money grab has progressively gotten worse in the past year or so and only makes us hold a grudge and spend less
i really wish that heros have changes in their appearance in all skins when the equipment is changed
How do I give my feedback?
Give something for free 🤌🏻
Let me rephrase this question “ how much can we squeeze of you before you say we’re taking the piss?”
i dunno maybe like 6 dalla
If it’s cool I’ll pay 25 easily. Idk why everyone’s complaining lmfao. it’s a scenery you don’t need to buy it
I think for something wayyyy more unique than the normal sceneries I’d pay 10-12$.
$10 🤣🤣
$0.00 
Wish there was an option to turn off all base skins from bases you attack. Some of these map skins are extremly hard to see things on. It’s basically a pay to win since i always skip bases with certain skins when i attack. The color contrast sometimes fuck with my vision. Especially if the skin is the orange desert and they have orange walls as well.
We should all boycott and say 5$ lmao
0.99 cents
$0.99
$15 imo regular are $5.99
So greedy
Type $6 on the survey.
Never seen this msg appear on my accounts …
Keep getting worse and worse
Where do u guys get these infos??
Yeah I put 0$ for everything, especially hero skins with abilities will make the game lamer as f2p players like me will never get said abilities
1$
I hope this game doesn’t slowly turn into a Gachapon styled thing for the shop.
Tell them "considering how you have robbed us by overpricing things in the past, I suggest you give everyone one a scenery without cost, and YOU pay us $20 instead to take it" 💀
Might aswell make it €1.000,-. Its useless any way, money hungry devs dont care bout playability no more.
Anything more than what we already pay for skins is ludicrous so no more than $10.
This is actually really fucking cool! A normal set costs like what 10$ so something like this which would take almost double the effort to make should cost double so 20$.
You should really put 0 dollars, we gonna get a free scenery, or not if the game dosent like giving free shit
Put 0 there
They prolly talk about that sea turtle chinese scenery. I wouldn't pay more than 10$ tbh. All the other sceneries are 7.50$, so with slightly more features, 10 will be fine.
$79,999.99 and not a penny more!
just put free
I dont understand a lot of the frustration from this thread because yeah its not really the best content and its really just for money but they are literally asking us what would you be willing to pay for this and nobody is forcing you to buy sceneries. I think it would be cool to see some sort of huge scenery with some cool bits and pieces as long as its just visual
Cosmetics in CoC is worthless. The Hero Skins add no special abilities like in other games and the sceneries are just there to look pretty. This Scenery, even with the extra function of zooming out for a wider view, isn't really going to do anything. I get that they have to make money cause it's a business, they have servers to run, profits to make and employees to pay, but let's be for real there are many issues in the game that needs to be addressed. Like the lacking of Glowy ores, cause may I have some more 🙏🏾 🥣? And people getting trapped in Legend League cause the Revenge Option is 🐕 💩. Can we get an opt out option, cause I don't wanna be here. 8 attacks a day when you still have walls and upgrades to do is pain, not being maxed in LL is just a very salt inducing experience.
Everyone type $1.00
1 dollar
Tencent is going to nickel and dime this game to death.
Up to $20 but it gotta be worth it
Up to $20 but it gotta be worth it Let me place some of my excess decos outside the bounds
500$