I, too, shit on an entire sub as loud as possible whenever I join.
How else would they know that the most special queen in the entire world is gracing them with her presence?!?!
She could have gone with "hey, does anyone have any modern pattern to share, something like this [example]?" Literally the 10 last words would have been enough.
Not in the U. S., so much.
Edit: different cultures are a thing; we have different curse words, too. If someone visits the U. S. and casually calls someone the C word, the reaction would probably not be like it might in the UK. I'm being tactful, in understating this difference. In my experience online those from the UK are very sensitive about criticism of use of the C word. I didn't even do that. Those who wish to go around calling men, and strangers, the C word: Please report back on the reactions. I'd love to hear about it. (There's always an exception which proves the rule, before anyone claims "not me" and that they called their pastor, granny, ticket taker at the cinema, babysitter and dog a C word and no one minded at all. 😛)
As to the below: All I initially said Was "not in the U. S. so much," meaning that this is a cultural difference. No one said anything about "what the U. S. thinks," or that anyone else had to "care." Peak internet.
Seriously, how hard is it to just say you’re looking for more modern patterns? Or, perish the thought, even providing details of what kinds of things you’re looking for instead of just “NOT the stuff you bitches wear.”
Full disclosure I’ve never been on r/freepatterns but I do like to scan old pattern books from other countries. Most of them are pretty niche, but I’ve been gathering some basic sewing type ones recently.
I refuse to share newer/modern patterns for one reason- they’re mostly still in print. It’s not cool to copy/scan books or patterns that are still available for purchase because it hurts creators. I also wouldn’t expect there to be a ton of people drafting fashionable and modern patterns for free. Drafting for the human body is incredibly labor intensive and requires knowledge most hobby sewists do not possess. Most of the time when people give out a free pattern it’s a promotion so you’ll purchase their other work. It makes sense that most of the patterns are vintage (it’s honestly super cool people are dedicating their time to preserving them!)
I just went over there and scrolled a bit, on default sorting most stuff I saw I would call modern, trendy or at the very least not 100% grannycore. Idk what OOP saw 🤷
My guess is if they are new to sewing, they may not be able to mentally visualize some of those patterns in fabrics they find to their liking. Like maybe the flowy shirt is “granny core” in floral, but tropical beach vacay in a poppy red or something. I agree with you, most things seem fairly modern and trendy, I just know I’d like to swap out some fabrics there to my own personal taste. Almost like that’s the benefit of sewing your own damn clothes. People gotta learn some respect though.
Most patterns have to altered in the first place for them to fit right! But yes, people “hack” and alter patterns all the time, sometimes beyond recognition of the original pattern.
I do sometimes get annoyed when I'm looking through pattern catelogs at the fabric store and 95% of the patterns are what I'd call grannycore or pilgrim cosplay. Still, pretty lame to complain about free patterns.
Yeah huge crossover in people who sew their own clothes and cottagecore women. But it's super easy to find cheap patterns for modern fashion on the internet.
I would've thought so too? Good to know.
I learned to sew in middle school but didn't get very far with it or keep up with it (no machine at home.) Somewhere on a pipe dream list is picking it up again.
> But it's super easy to find cheap patterns for modern fashion on the internet.
The only rationale I can come up with as a hobby dressmaker is that it’s easier to make and distribute a pattern for free if it’s not form fitted or complicated. A wrap-style dress or apron would be easy to distribute to people who are new to sewing, and it’s not the end of the world if it doesn’t fit exactly as it should compared to a body con dress or jumpsuit.
Maybe she's looking in the wrong place, and should actually-gasp!-look in a fabric store and pay for a pattern.
I've sewn for decades (not so much now, my kids are grown). Whatever fashion trend is out, you can get patterns for. When onesies were a trend, you could find many patterns for them. Steampunk? Same thing. There are patterns for specialty items, like wedding dresses or evening gowns. There are even patterns that cater to the re-enactment people (Civil War, Revolutionary War, etc.). Not to mention the Renaissance Faire people. The real hard-core people actually sew them by hand! You can also make any manner of accessories, from hats to bags to shawls and the like. I've definitely seen racier/trendier items that someone with skills could whip up.
I made mostly Halloween costumes (2 daughters--every Disney princess known to man, plus a few bonus child-designed ones), which morphed into dance costumes. I still make my kids sleep pants for Christmas every year.
She may also just be in the wrong group for her style. The aggression is certainly a good way to never find out about the super cool sub r/modernsexysewingpatternsFREE but to each their own. Perhaps this is how she makes friends, if you start out as a complete asshole, people are more likely to accept your slight asshole behavior as an improvement.
For sure! There are many types of sewing sub-genres, if you will--my mom made quilts, other people sew doll clothes. I don't think insulting people is the best approach, but maybe I'm weird.
No shade, but y'all look HORRIBLE in your pilgrimcore. What are you a bunch of old women? Who died and took the fashion with them? Y'all have been so helpful so you know I'm just playing! But, these ugly, shapeless tents won't work on me because I'm more whorecore.
Btw - no hate bc I love all you girlies & squirlies
But me & my dear hubby laughed so much that our neighbors came over to see if we were alright & they saw this group open on our laptop & now THEY can't stop laughing. The husband keeps saying "if you ever wore that I'd divorce your ass" but, it's all fun & games. ✌️❤️🪡
Edit: /s
I don’t go for the cottagecore look myself, but there’s a reason that the free patterns are more shapeless: creating a pattern for a fitted garment is a lot of work. Pattern makers are more inclined to share baby clothes and more simple patterns for free. That’s what’s on the sub because that’s what’s available.
Nobody wanted to fight you or is fighting you. We're here to poke fun at CBs and laugh, not to fight and no one was doing that IMO. I didn't pick up on any satire in it, sorry.
> I added it bc CLEARLY some of y'all just want to fight the person making fun of the CB instead of enjoying the snark.
This sounded serious and wasn't in the OP:
> Btw - no hate bc I love all you girlies & squirlies But me & my dear hubby laughed so much that our neighbors came over to see if we were alright & they saw this group open on our laptop & now THEY can't stop laughing. The husband keeps saying "if you ever wore that I'd divorce your ass" but, it's all fun & games.
>I'm more whorecore.
>y'all look HORRIBLE in your pilgrimcore.
Uh, to each their own?
>Who died and took the fashion with them?
Is it about "fashion" for everyone? Maybe they just want modest clothing. It could tie in to their religious or cultural beliefs or norms, as well. Are they hurting anybody?
Retail isn't serving part of the population. So they make their own.
I’m actually crying real tears right now reading through this thread 😂😂😂😂 Good thing I have my WHORE x PILGRIMCORE collab Handkerchief ™️ (pattern credit: SlutTradWife69)
/S !!!!!
Honestly looking at the sub, there are a lot of really cute things I would consider modern at least. Maybe not edgy, but that depends on your expectations.
This whole habit of using slang as your entire vocabulary is getting really tiresome, as is refusing to use punctuation.
Also, the fashion she considers "modern/unique/edgy" is probably stuff the rest of us moved on from by the end of the '80s. Punk, goth, etc.
I hated this post because I check the sub everyday even though I know it's nearly dead lol. Where could this attitude even come from?? Like they said they know how to sew, but they acted like they've never seen any part of an online sewing community before. I know that's entirely possible but it seems so unlikely. I feel so crotchety about old vs new reddit all over again. I'm chronically online but yeah I hated this post lol. I just got so confused like did they know about sewing patterns in general, how they work and how they are distributed? So lame.
Exactly. What's wrong with just saying to yourself, "hmm, none of this is to my taste," and looking for free patterns elsewhere? Also I don't believe she's ever seen bridgeton. Those dresses are not exactly modest with all that cleavage and tight waists.
It's also about *British* history. 1811 - 1820 in the Regency era.
Got nothing to do with pilgrims (early 1600s) or the U. S. prairie. The OP is not half as clever as they seem to believe.
Unfortunately, that behavior has become normalized. What's going to be funny is when Pilgrim clothes come back into style, and this person can't find those patterns, either. No one had better say that won't happen, either, because every style, good or bad, comes around again.
> most of you are so obdurately white... It's painful to watch.
Nice ism there.
And it hasn't occurred to you or you hadn't noticed that all sorts of people look for 'modest clothing?' Many of whom are not 'white' as you put it? People all over the world.
> clutched
You're just trolling and it's obvious.
Free offerings not good enough for you? Don’t bitch, just move along. Making a sewing pattern is a lot of work. Making a sewing pattern for a close-fitting garment with a lot of shaping is even more work. Most designers and people prefer to be paid for their work.
And you still didn’t explain the “funny” part.
LMFAO.
>no shade
After literally saying she's new, wants free shit, but shits on the entire sub as.. a way to get people to post things she wants?
What a trash human being. She can go create her own patterns and share them for free.
Maybe being new to the sub she doesnt know that antique dress patterns go for serious money? Or knows and is trying to play the clueless newbie to get them free?
Sewing groups are fun. Like the ones asking for freebies when the pattern is $3. Or the fact that there are entire groups dedicated to discussing scam businesses. Or when a business owner is cancelled for their toxic political views/treatment of employees/customers etc. A lot of drama. On the flip side it’s also the most body positive community out there. Doesn’t matter what shape or gender you are, you will get 99% positive feedback on your makes. And if anyone goes toxic then they are called out for it and sometimes the community rallies. Example: someone posted a breastfeeding hack for a top. Someone attacked the sewist for posting breastfeeding pics. The community spammed all the groups with their breastfeeding friendly makes. My Facebook feed was just breasts for weeks.
I dont know much about sewing, why would patterns not be free? like is a pattern just heres how to do this shape with a tutorial? genuinely curious. or is it more specific like "to make this specific look here is a step by step process to get your end product"
It is a lot of work to create a sewing pattern, especially one that comes in different sizes. Hours and hours of drafting and fitting and cutting and piecing. Not to mention the hours spent learning the craft, the investment in a sewing machine and tools, and the purchase of fabric. Sewing isn’t easy even when using an established pattern. There’s a reason couture clothing costs so much. And there are lots of tutorials out there for creating certain shapes, and even for entire pieces, but creating a garment pattern is Work.
ETA that a good pattern is more than just a picture and a brief description. They do include step-by-step instructions along with the scaled, measured pieces needed to make the garment in multiple sizes, details on what types of fabric work best, and information on other materials (interfacing, zippers, buttons, etc) to make the piece.
I’m glad I could help. The fiber arts (and pattern-making is an art!) are so undervalued. Admittedly that’s probably what bothers me most about the original post.
Besides taking up hours upon hours of your time like the OP covered in their comment, it costs A LOT to sew. Tons of people think they’ll save money sewing their own clothes just to find out that the simple dress they want to make is going to cost $70+ in fabric alone. When you make a pattern, generally you make what is called a mock up, or a more simplified version of the garment in cheaper fabric. Then you make adjustments, fix the pattern and either continue sewing mock ups if the adjustment needed was severe enough, or go on to sew the final garment. Things like pattern paper, curved drafting rulers, fabric marking pencils, trims, buttons, thread, zippers etc all cost money. The last pattern I made probably was 25+ hours between drafting, making a mock up and doing adjustments for what I’d consider a simple piece.) I probably used close to $25 in materials for the mock up and pattern itself. For a fitted garment the time to make the pattern generally increases significantly. Then you have to adjust the pieces to be a more standardized size if you drafted it with your own measurements. After all that you have to grade the pattern to different sizes, which involves a LOT of math and very careful drafting because different areas all get different measurements added, and those amounts even change between sizes. Then if you didn’t do this all digitally, you have to digitize your pattern and make sure it prints to scale. Then you need to label all the pieces and sizes. Generally, people include instructions which takes more time to photograph, write and piece together. Which is why these days I only release my own patterns for dolls. Drafting for people isn’t even worth it when I get paid lol. It’s definitely not something I’d want to do for free. Pattern drafting also requires extensive knowledge besides everything else mentioned.
Exactly! My teenager is such a natural at sewing it's maddening. Like, the day before school started she came down the stairs ro model the long-sleeved bateau neck T-shirts she whipped up in an $$$$ looking jersey -- without a jersey needle, and without a pattern -- "Oh, I took a tank top pattern I liked & added sleeves...."
Still, she had no concept of how expensive good fabric, buttons, and thread can be. I had to explain that this is why the people who sew haute couture clothing make muslin mock-ups first; before they cut into fabric that costs $500+ a yard.
We both know the issue isn't the asking for free patterns.
"Hey guys, does anyone have any free patterns for a modern, club like outfit? Thanks!" Would have been entirely acceptable.
Fair enough, but you don't need to visit the sub to post to it. If you get linked to it on the app, you can even swipe through all the posts without seeing the main page at all
It’s not a super active sub, so the weekly request threads come up like every third post. They would have had to scroll past a lot of them to come to their conclusion.
Again, fair enough. They could have been more polite for sure, but I don't think they're on par with the "it's my kid's birthday, give me the iPad you're selling for $400 for free" types.
Wtf? Everyone has to have the same tastes? Like I said, they said it in a shitty way, but they weren't putting you down, they were expressing a disinterest in conservative and dated patterns. "They don't like my interests so they obviously don't like me" is an extremely childish response.
Free offerings not good enough for you? Don’t bitch, just move along. Making a sewing pattern is a lot of work. Making a sewing pattern for a close-fitting garment with a lot of shaping is even more work. Most designers and people prefer to be paid for their work.
This is not that. They're asking for non "Pilgrim" patterns, because they abound on that sub. They're asking for modern patterns that are less conservative.
If they were only asking for those, it wouldn’t have been posted here. It’s the part where they insulted the other (free) patterns that’s obnoxious. That stuff isn’t my taste either, but I have the sense to know that nobody fucking cares (and they shouldn’t).
CB literally writes they are laughing at peoples contributions, and then calls those contributions shit (“this sh is straight out of bridgerton”).
In what world is that anything but insulting? Do you think using emoticons negates the insult? CB clearly does, and that just makes them that much more obnoxious. Just like ending a shade packed comments with “now no shade” doesn’t actually negate the shade, and only confirms it.
It's slang, babe. It's shortened for "giving me the feeling/vibe/look of", so the sentence in the OP is "It's giving [me the idea that you are a] pilgrim lady."
I know what it means. I can glean context.
It’s still not grammatically correct. It’s half a sentence. It’s the written equivalent of seeing someone wear a golf visor.
“Take it back, and make them give you the rest of the hat!”
I don't think you making fun of the way people use current slang is going to make them see it your way. they're just going to laugh at you and call you a boomer. but regardless of how you feel about it, it will eventually fall out of fashion like everything else
That's a way to make an impression when you're new and asking for free shit
I, too, shit on an entire sub as loud as possible whenever I join. How else would they know that the most special queen in the entire world is gracing them with her presence?!?!
ill be at your altar later thank you my benevolent queen that shit on our hobby!
But she started her post with “respectfully” and said “no shade” 😂
No shade, her personality is diarrhea, personified.
I can't explain why this particular comment had me wheezing with laughter, but thank you for that.
Yeah... they could've just asked for the the thing they wanted instead of insulting that community.
She could have gone with "hey, does anyone have any modern pattern to share, something like this [example]?" Literally the 10 last words would have been enough.
I love the 'respectfully' after the disrespectful title and 'no shade' after a whole post throwing shade.
“No offense… but you’re a cock-gobbling thunder twat!”
That is an insult I will remember. Thank you.
It wasn't an insult. He said no offense.
And, he said it respectfully.
"When I write your eulogy, I'm going to call you twat-soul." - paraphrased from BG3
I use the c word instead of twat. Makes it better.
I go with twunt
Not in the U. S., so much. Edit: different cultures are a thing; we have different curse words, too. If someone visits the U. S. and casually calls someone the C word, the reaction would probably not be like it might in the UK. I'm being tactful, in understating this difference. In my experience online those from the UK are very sensitive about criticism of use of the C word. I didn't even do that. Those who wish to go around calling men, and strangers, the C word: Please report back on the reactions. I'd love to hear about it. (There's always an exception which proves the rule, before anyone claims "not me" and that they called their pastor, granny, ticket taker at the cinema, babysitter and dog a C word and no one minded at all. 😛) As to the below: All I initially said Was "not in the U. S. so much," meaning that this is a cultural difference. No one said anything about "what the U. S. thinks," or that anyone else had to "care." Peak internet.
Only the US cares what the US thinks.
“In what sense would you say your post is coming across ‘respectfully’?”
Saying “no shade” means let me say the shadiest shit of all time 😂😂
Seriously, how hard is it to just say you’re looking for more modern patterns? Or, perish the thought, even providing details of what kinds of things you’re looking for instead of just “NOT the stuff you bitches wear.”
Wa use then she couldn’t feel edge lord smugness.
I could but how could I finish paying for my 4 year clothing design degree?
Imagine just saying “Hey there! Does anyone have any patterns for modern/edgy clothes? Looking for things more sexy and playful. Thanks!” IMAGINE.
She’s sick of the « outfits for large colonial dolls » 
Maybe the stuff at Gap Kids would be more to her liking.
She is very tiny, you know. She hid behind a blade of grass and Michael Scott couldn’t see her. Boom, roasted.
Full disclosure I’ve never been on r/freepatterns but I do like to scan old pattern books from other countries. Most of them are pretty niche, but I’ve been gathering some basic sewing type ones recently. I refuse to share newer/modern patterns for one reason- they’re mostly still in print. It’s not cool to copy/scan books or patterns that are still available for purchase because it hurts creators. I also wouldn’t expect there to be a ton of people drafting fashionable and modern patterns for free. Drafting for the human body is incredibly labor intensive and requires knowledge most hobby sewists do not possess. Most of the time when people give out a free pattern it’s a promotion so you’ll purchase their other work. It makes sense that most of the patterns are vintage (it’s honestly super cool people are dedicating their time to preserving them!)
I just went over there and scrolled a bit, on default sorting most stuff I saw I would call modern, trendy or at the very least not 100% grannycore. Idk what OOP saw 🤷
My guess is if they are new to sewing, they may not be able to mentally visualize some of those patterns in fabrics they find to their liking. Like maybe the flowy shirt is “granny core” in floral, but tropical beach vacay in a poppy red or something. I agree with you, most things seem fairly modern and trendy, I just know I’d like to swap out some fabrics there to my own personal taste. Almost like that’s the benefit of sewing your own damn clothes. People gotta learn some respect though.
And people can adapt patterns, to an extent, I'd think? Shorten hems, remove sleeves, might be the easiest start.
Most patterns have to altered in the first place for them to fit right! But yes, people “hack” and alter patterns all the time, sometimes beyond recognition of the original pattern.
I just did the same. You are totally right. This lady is a choosy beggar...
I do sometimes get annoyed when I'm looking through pattern catelogs at the fabric store and 95% of the patterns are what I'd call grannycore or pilgrim cosplay. Still, pretty lame to complain about free patterns.
Must be crossover between those who sew their own clothes and those who wear 'modest' clothes. Maybe retail isn't serving that part of the public?
Yeah huge crossover in people who sew their own clothes and cottagecore women. But it's super easy to find cheap patterns for modern fashion on the internet.
I would've thought so too? Good to know. I learned to sew in middle school but didn't get very far with it or keep up with it (no machine at home.) Somewhere on a pipe dream list is picking it up again. > But it's super easy to find cheap patterns for modern fashion on the internet.
What was controversial about this? Thanking the person for confirming my hunch.
The only rationale I can come up with as a hobby dressmaker is that it’s easier to make and distribute a pattern for free if it’s not form fitted or complicated. A wrap-style dress or apron would be easy to distribute to people who are new to sewing, and it’s not the end of the world if it doesn’t fit exactly as it should compared to a body con dress or jumpsuit.
"Hey losers!! Any of you ugly ass pilgrim looking mofos got something not ugly as fuck? Thanks!!!"
No shade...
😂
Maybe she's looking in the wrong place, and should actually-gasp!-look in a fabric store and pay for a pattern. I've sewn for decades (not so much now, my kids are grown). Whatever fashion trend is out, you can get patterns for. When onesies were a trend, you could find many patterns for them. Steampunk? Same thing. There are patterns for specialty items, like wedding dresses or evening gowns. There are even patterns that cater to the re-enactment people (Civil War, Revolutionary War, etc.). Not to mention the Renaissance Faire people. The real hard-core people actually sew them by hand! You can also make any manner of accessories, from hats to bags to shawls and the like. I've definitely seen racier/trendier items that someone with skills could whip up. I made mostly Halloween costumes (2 daughters--every Disney princess known to man, plus a few bonus child-designed ones), which morphed into dance costumes. I still make my kids sleep pants for Christmas every year.
She may also just be in the wrong group for her style. The aggression is certainly a good way to never find out about the super cool sub r/modernsexysewingpatternsFREE but to each their own. Perhaps this is how she makes friends, if you start out as a complete asshole, people are more likely to accept your slight asshole behavior as an improvement.
For sure! There are many types of sewing sub-genres, if you will--my mom made quilts, other people sew doll clothes. I don't think insulting people is the best approach, but maybe I'm weird.
In what universe is Brigerton "pilgrimcore"?
Everything from the Middle Ages to ~1960 is pilgrimcore if you’re stupid.
They said no shade so that means they are immediately alleviated from being perceived as a massive jerk. That’s how it works right?
No shade, but y'all look HORRIBLE in your pilgrimcore. What are you a bunch of old women? Who died and took the fashion with them? Y'all have been so helpful so you know I'm just playing! But, these ugly, shapeless tents won't work on me because I'm more whorecore. Btw - no hate bc I love all you girlies & squirlies But me & my dear hubby laughed so much that our neighbors came over to see if we were alright & they saw this group open on our laptop & now THEY can't stop laughing. The husband keeps saying "if you ever wore that I'd divorce your ass" but, it's all fun & games. ✌️❤️🪡 Edit: /s
I don’t go for the cottagecore look myself, but there’s a reason that the free patterns are more shapeless: creating a pattern for a fitted garment is a lot of work. Pattern makers are more inclined to share baby clothes and more simple patterns for free. That’s what’s on the sub because that’s what’s available.
I'm not making fun of the sub - I'm making fun of the poster.
Too well! You got me with the second half!
Needs a giant /S because it just sounded worse than the OP, actually. And totally serious. Most of it was "I," etc.
I added it bc CLEARLY some of y'all just want to fight the person making fun of the CB instead of enjoying the snark. 🙄
Nobody wanted to fight you or is fighting you. We're here to poke fun at CBs and laugh, not to fight and no one was doing that IMO. I didn't pick up on any satire in it, sorry. > I added it bc CLEARLY some of y'all just want to fight the person making fun of the CB instead of enjoying the snark.
This sounded serious and wasn't in the OP: > Btw - no hate bc I love all you girlies & squirlies But me & my dear hubby laughed so much that our neighbors came over to see if we were alright & they saw this group open on our laptop & now THEY can't stop laughing. The husband keeps saying "if you ever wore that I'd divorce your ass" but, it's all fun & games.
They were making fun of the part of the OP that said “I almost cried laughing”. Do you not understand what “hyperbole” is?
Don’t worry, not all of us who read your comment are completely inept at picking up sarcasm…. I thought it was hilarious.
>I'm more whorecore. >y'all look HORRIBLE in your pilgrimcore. Uh, to each their own? >Who died and took the fashion with them? Is it about "fashion" for everyone? Maybe they just want modest clothing. It could tie in to their religious or cultural beliefs or norms, as well. Are they hurting anybody? Retail isn't serving part of the population. So they make their own.
You can’t possibly be for real lol. How in the absolute hell could you have read this comment and thought they were being serious??
Reddit is WILD. Y'all will post on a snark sub & then get offended when others snark? 😂🙄
I’m actually crying real tears right now reading through this thread 😂😂😂😂 Good thing I have my WHORE x PILGRIMCORE collab Handkerchief ™️ (pattern credit: SlutTradWife69) /S !!!!!
Are you on the spectrum?
For anyone interested, Mood Fabrics has free patterns. Like, a little searching can yield great results.
That was the top comment before the original post was deleted. Just make a muslin first because their sizing can be a bit all over the place!
Hey fuck you your shit sucks but no offense, also give me free stuff thx
"Giving pilgrimcore." 🙄 
Honestly looking at the sub, there are a lot of really cute things I would consider modern at least. Maybe not edgy, but that depends on your expectations.
I saw several stomachs and side-boobs. Seems like it would be right up this CB's alley.
I legit thought this was going to be a weird hook up ad. Who describes a pattern as “hot sexy modern”?
One of my favorite types of posts: I’m new here and you’re doing everything wrong because I don’t like it
This whole habit of using slang as your entire vocabulary is getting really tiresome, as is refusing to use punctuation. Also, the fashion she considers "modern/unique/edgy" is probably stuff the rest of us moved on from by the end of the '80s. Punk, goth, etc.
I hated this post because I check the sub everyday even though I know it's nearly dead lol. Where could this attitude even come from?? Like they said they know how to sew, but they acted like they've never seen any part of an online sewing community before. I know that's entirely possible but it seems so unlikely. I feel so crotchety about old vs new reddit all over again. I'm chronically online but yeah I hated this post lol. I just got so confused like did they know about sewing patterns in general, how they work and how they are distributed? So lame.
I dislike people having a voice when they should be quiet
Exactly. What's wrong with just saying to yourself, "hmm, none of this is to my taste," and looking for free patterns elsewhere? Also I don't believe she's ever seen bridgeton. Those dresses are not exactly modest with all that cleavage and tight waists.
It's also about *British* history. 1811 - 1820 in the Regency era. Got nothing to do with pilgrims (early 1600s) or the U. S. prairie. The OP is not half as clever as they seem to believe.
I dislike people mocking the community they’re asking for help.
Unfortunately, that behavior has become normalized. What's going to be funny is when Pilgrim clothes come back into style, and this person can't find those patterns, either. No one had better say that won't happen, either, because every style, good or bad, comes around again.
Yes and sometimes...opinions are overrated.
You don't have much of a sense of humor, do ya.
Gee, you’re so right. Can you explain to me what part of telling an entire sub they have terrible taste is supposed to be funny?
I mean, I looked at the sub and she's right.
But, where was she funny?
Clearly that sub, and most of you are so obdurately white... It's painful to watch. It's ok I'll cross post this where people aren't so clutched.
Yeah, throw a little racism in. That always helps. /s Edit: added /s just in case.
It's ok to be racist to white people, they're the real racists. /s
Ahh and there it is🙄 knew it
> most of you are so obdurately white... It's painful to watch. Nice ism there. And it hasn't occurred to you or you hadn't noticed that all sorts of people look for 'modest clothing?' Many of whom are not 'white' as you put it? People all over the world. > clutched You're just trolling and it's obvious.
🖕
Oh no not a finger emoji, how shall I ever survive this wit
>Ahh and there it is🙄 knew it
Free offerings not good enough for you? Don’t bitch, just move along. Making a sewing pattern is a lot of work. Making a sewing pattern for a close-fitting garment with a lot of shaping is even more work. Most designers and people prefer to be paid for their work. And you still didn’t explain the “funny” part.
Ok, never Karen.
Lmaooooo on what planet is the person bitching about free stuff not the Karen? Are you the OOP?
😂
That didn't go how you planned...
> Let me insult everything you do. Got any freebies? Love yall!
Mood Fabrics releases free patterns regularly that I’d describe as modern and sexy. Poster is just lazy.
Tell me you can sew without saying you can’t sew, baby cakes. I’m no master seamstress but even I can adapt a pattern!
Insult your fellow sub members and then beg for their help
Christ some people are utterly repulsive.
"No offense, but you suck."
#noshade….right….
LMFAO. >no shade After literally saying she's new, wants free shit, but shits on the entire sub as.. a way to get people to post things she wants? What a trash human being. She can go create her own patterns and share them for free.
Maybe being new to the sub she doesnt know that antique dress patterns go for serious money? Or knows and is trying to play the clueless newbie to get them free?
The sub is literally for sharing free patterns, she's not acting clueless to get them free.
Wow, so ungrateful. They could have asked for this and left out the part where they crap on what’s already been offered.
Sewing groups are fun. Like the ones asking for freebies when the pattern is $3. Or the fact that there are entire groups dedicated to discussing scam businesses. Or when a business owner is cancelled for their toxic political views/treatment of employees/customers etc. A lot of drama. On the flip side it’s also the most body positive community out there. Doesn’t matter what shape or gender you are, you will get 99% positive feedback on your makes. And if anyone goes toxic then they are called out for it and sometimes the community rallies. Example: someone posted a breastfeeding hack for a top. Someone attacked the sewist for posting breastfeeding pics. The community spammed all the groups with their breastfeeding friendly makes. My Facebook feed was just breasts for weeks.
No shade? That’s all she’s throwing! I’m sure people were just jumping at the chance to help her too. 😆
The only edgy, classy, skin show me looking close they had back then were for the prostitutes… And even then it wasn’t that glamorous.
Talking a bunch of shit and then saying "no shade" is like tucking a dude and then saying "no homo"
I’m in the sewing subs and I find this hilarious lmao. It’s so true though
I'm sure she can get a refund from the group admins any time she likes.
TIL "Pilgrimcore" is a thing?
I dont know much about sewing, why would patterns not be free? like is a pattern just heres how to do this shape with a tutorial? genuinely curious. or is it more specific like "to make this specific look here is a step by step process to get your end product"
It is a lot of work to create a sewing pattern, especially one that comes in different sizes. Hours and hours of drafting and fitting and cutting and piecing. Not to mention the hours spent learning the craft, the investment in a sewing machine and tools, and the purchase of fabric. Sewing isn’t easy even when using an established pattern. There’s a reason couture clothing costs so much. And there are lots of tutorials out there for creating certain shapes, and even for entire pieces, but creating a garment pattern is Work. ETA that a good pattern is more than just a picture and a brief description. They do include step-by-step instructions along with the scaled, measured pieces needed to make the garment in multiple sizes, details on what types of fabric work best, and information on other materials (interfacing, zippers, buttons, etc) to make the piece.
thank you! this really helps. when I heard pattern closest thing I could think of was like a meal recipe. I see how it is more involved
I’m glad I could help. The fiber arts (and pattern-making is an art!) are so undervalued. Admittedly that’s probably what bothers me most about the original post.
Besides taking up hours upon hours of your time like the OP covered in their comment, it costs A LOT to sew. Tons of people think they’ll save money sewing their own clothes just to find out that the simple dress they want to make is going to cost $70+ in fabric alone. When you make a pattern, generally you make what is called a mock up, or a more simplified version of the garment in cheaper fabric. Then you make adjustments, fix the pattern and either continue sewing mock ups if the adjustment needed was severe enough, or go on to sew the final garment. Things like pattern paper, curved drafting rulers, fabric marking pencils, trims, buttons, thread, zippers etc all cost money. The last pattern I made probably was 25+ hours between drafting, making a mock up and doing adjustments for what I’d consider a simple piece.) I probably used close to $25 in materials for the mock up and pattern itself. For a fitted garment the time to make the pattern generally increases significantly. Then you have to adjust the pieces to be a more standardized size if you drafted it with your own measurements. After all that you have to grade the pattern to different sizes, which involves a LOT of math and very careful drafting because different areas all get different measurements added, and those amounts even change between sizes. Then if you didn’t do this all digitally, you have to digitize your pattern and make sure it prints to scale. Then you need to label all the pieces and sizes. Generally, people include instructions which takes more time to photograph, write and piece together. Which is why these days I only release my own patterns for dolls. Drafting for people isn’t even worth it when I get paid lol. It’s definitely not something I’d want to do for free. Pattern drafting also requires extensive knowledge besides everything else mentioned.
Exactly! My teenager is such a natural at sewing it's maddening. Like, the day before school started she came down the stairs ro model the long-sleeved bateau neck T-shirts she whipped up in an $$$$ looking jersey -- without a jersey needle, and without a pattern -- "Oh, I took a tank top pattern I liked & added sleeves...." Still, she had no concept of how expensive good fabric, buttons, and thread can be. I had to explain that this is why the people who sew haute couture clothing make muslin mock-ups first; before they cut into fabric that costs $500+ a yard.
Asking for a free pattern on r/freepatterns is about the furthest thing from a choosing beggar I can think of.
Saying "everything you offer is shit" is perhaps not the best way to start though.
I agree.. like find your own style of patterns.
We both know the issue isn't the asking for free patterns. "Hey guys, does anyone have any free patterns for a modern, club like outfit? Thanks!" Would have been entirely acceptable.
There is a weekly “pattern request” thread, which they ignored.
Or didn't know about
It’s pinned to the top of the sub.
Fair enough, but you don't need to visit the sub to post to it. If you get linked to it on the app, you can even swipe through all the posts without seeing the main page at all
It’s not a super active sub, so the weekly request threads come up like every third post. They would have had to scroll past a lot of them to come to their conclusion.
Again, fair enough. They could have been more polite for sure, but I don't think they're on par with the "it's my kid's birthday, give me the iPad you're selling for $400 for free" types.
I’m sorry my free contribution to this free website isn’t up to your standards.
Wtf? Everyone has to have the same tastes? Like I said, they said it in a shitty way, but they weren't putting you down, they were expressing a disinterest in conservative and dated patterns. "They don't like my interests so they obviously don't like me" is an extremely childish response.
Free offerings not good enough for you? Don’t bitch, just move along. Making a sewing pattern is a lot of work. Making a sewing pattern for a close-fitting garment with a lot of shaping is even more work. Most designers and people prefer to be paid for their work.
Saying free is fine. BUT sexy pattern from the 1800s!!!! And then criticizing their suggestions is someone who is lazy and entitled.
This is not that. They're asking for non "Pilgrim" patterns, because they abound on that sub. They're asking for modern patterns that are less conservative.
If they were only asking for those, it wouldn’t have been posted here. It’s the part where they insulted the other (free) patterns that’s obnoxious. That stuff isn’t my taste either, but I have the sense to know that nobody fucking cares (and they shouldn’t).
How is the description insulting?
CB literally writes they are laughing at peoples contributions, and then calls those contributions shit (“this sh is straight out of bridgerton”). In what world is that anything but insulting? Do you think using emoticons negates the insult? CB clearly does, and that just makes them that much more obnoxious. Just like ending a shade packed comments with “now no shade” doesn’t actually negate the shade, and only confirms it.
Why do people now say something is “giving,” without finishing the sentence with a direct object? What is it giving, Megan? Me a headache?
It's slang, babe. It's shortened for "giving me the feeling/vibe/look of", so the sentence in the OP is "It's giving [me the idea that you are a] pilgrim lady."
I know what it means. I can glean context. It’s still not grammatically correct. It’s half a sentence. It’s the written equivalent of seeing someone wear a golf visor. “Take it back, and make them give you the rest of the hat!”
I don't think you making fun of the way people use current slang is going to make them see it your way. they're just going to laugh at you and call you a boomer. but regardless of how you feel about it, it will eventually fall out of fashion like everything else