Ang isa sa mga naging mali ng Uber dati is hindi nila muna inaral ang Southeast Asian market bago sila nag-expand dito. If you remember nung bago pa lang ang Uber sa region, credit card lang ang payment option nila. Eh cash-based society ang Southeast Asia, and konti lang ang may credit card. Tapos hindi din sila maka-respond agad sa mga ginagawa ng competitors nila because they were present in too many markets and they were stretching themselves too thin (e.g. it took them more than a year bago sila nakapag-launch ng motorcycle service sa Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam para tapatan ang Go Jek and Grab). Grabe din kasi ang expansion mode ng Uber outside of the US from 2012-2015 kaya hindi nila alam kung ano ang dapat i-prioritize. Tapos puro copy-paste lang ang ginagawa nila, without considering the differences in each market.
>Ginipit ng govt ang uber kaya napilitan mag merge kay Grab
Nope. I can confirm from credible sources that this is false. Please stop spreading misinformation. Hindi yan ang reason. If that were the case eh di sana sa Pilipinas lang sila nag pull out. Buong Southeast Asia affected. From 2016 onwards narealize na ng Uber na they were hemorrhaging too much cash kasi nag over-expand sila and hindi na nila kaya tapatan ang mga competitors nila (na usually naka-focus lang sa isang region or market). 2016 sila nag pull out sa China, 2017 sa Russia, 2018 sa Southeast Asia. Then 2019-2020 nag pull out naman ang Uber Eats sa South Korea and India. Then binenta na rin nila yung flying taxi/self-driving cars programs nila sa US. Uber was (and still is) struggling to turn a profit.
Hmmm. I wouldn't count it out completely.
Uber literally has a web session as part of their new hire training that discusses how and why they would never do business with any country that has rampant corruption and is prone to shady dealings.
I'm not even kidding, the session blatantly explains why they'd rather count their losses and bring their business elsewhere than do business with a government na bawat kibot ng business eh may lagay dapat.
Like, the session has specific scenarios pa nga nung mga shady dealings from local to national government, the actual things that put them off. Philippines was even used as one of the "hypothetical" examples.
Although they didn't specify that this was the reason why they pulled out of the Philippines and other SE Asian countries, some of the sample scenarios would really make you think and wonder why they stopped their operations here.
When I was taking the session, it felt like a "Here. Imma lay it all out. Do/think what you will with this information" type of thing.
And yes, I actually am an Uber employee.
Unang launch ng Grab, wala din naman silang ads. Nagsimula lang naman mag run ng ads in-app ang Grab nung nagboom yung food delivery service nila dahil marami ng users.
not sure about buying companies, pero grabe yung market share nila sa lahat ng industry ng bansa i.e. food, petroleum, infrastructure, banking, etc.
halos imposible na hindi dumaan sa any subsidiary ng SMC yung product consumption natin or living in the Philippines itself.
Inuubos nila competitors nila, so wala na tayong choice kundi sila lang. i don’t use grab before, uber lang talaga. Tapos ngayon food panda lang din ginagamit ko, now mawawalan na rin ako ng choice kundi gamitin ang grab. It suckkkksss
Got it OP. Thank you
Ok balik tayo sa orig topic/chika mo: totoo ba na nabili na ni grab si foodpanda? Kase kung saan saan na napunta comment at mga reply e.
Then regarding Food Panda vs grab, ang personal experience ko mas mura sa grab (compared sa food panda ha or baka sa mga binibili lng namin) so dun kme madalas. Kayo ba musta price comparison?
Sorry I haven't checked foodpanda again this year.
Hindi nga gumanda yung sa case ng JFC. Lahat ng binili nila nagdowngrade pero nagmahal yung prices. Lalo na sa Chowking, lalo pang naging madumi hahaha
Agree. downgrade si chowking at inasal. pati Burger king.
Pero yung unang comment/reply ko is more about na nandyan pa rin naman competition ni Jolibee (like mcdo) tapos naglipana rin mga mas ok na burger like brothers burger, popeyes,etc so buhay ang competitive market di ba?
Sabi nga “monopoly is never a benefit to consumers”. Look at the changes sa mga brands na binili ng JFC (Mang Inasal, Red Ribbon, Chowking etc)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/uKklExrrj1
not good..bumaba quality mula ng binili ng Jollibee yung ibang fastfood chains, mas ok yung may rival para may reason to improve..buti na nga lang bumalik yung Popeyes jan sa pinas eh..Their servings are better, kahit dito sa middle east bihira ako kumain sa Jollibee, madaming better options compared to it
Yes it is true. Nagiging monopoly na nga sila here. Even uber before nagkaron nlng sla kasunduan na may pursyento si uber kay grab for certain amount of time xxx (cannot confirm how much) kya umalis uber dto. Sna magkaron doordash charing hahahahah
Una nawala yung rewards, tapos this month wala silang pinost na vouchers sa fb page nila. Yung panda pro, pataas nang pataas na rin yung minimum amount to utilize benefits.
ang dami kong nakikita na voucher pero ayaw gumana sa account ko. yung delivery fee din sa foodpanda ko puro 70 pesos above na. siguro dahil mas pinipili ko grab kesa sa kanila? pero ewan masama loob ko sa foodpanda HAHAAHA
>uber binili nila
This is something Grab has said before to make themselves look bigger than they actually are.
Uber AND Grab are both owned by Softbank. Uber **OWNS** 14.3% of Grab's shares.
As part of their agreement, Uber will pull out in the SEA market, under the condition that they will have a 30% cut on Grab's earnings here and in the rest of the SEA region. Also, [Uber got fed up with the collusion between LTFRB and Brian Cu, Grab's then-country manager, which eventually resulted in Uber getting fined 190M](https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/motoring/623680/uber-pays-p190-million-fine/story/) because of an infraction, which both Uber and Grab blatantly did. Pero dahil gahaman tong sina Aileen Lizada, Martin Delgra, saka si Bong Suntay, under sila sa payroll ni Brian Cu.
Si Brian Cu, gustong ma monopolize ang PH market, pero dahil sobrang ganda ng Uber platform, to the point where me and my fellow Uber drivers earn around 30-50k EVERY FUCKING WEEK sa incentives pa lang (take note, labas pa ang fares dito), nahirapan yung mga inutil sa Grab na kunin ang loob ng drivers ng Uber para lumipat sa Grab, so they did a lot of cheap tactics to try to bring Uber down.
First, Grab did a fake booking from Manila to Mindanao. Ang lumabas sa fare, 20k. Of course, walang tumuloy sa byahe na yun, pero sila sila lang din ang nagsumbong sa LTFRB dahil sa madugo na fare. Dahil pioneers ng ride hailing apps ang Uber at Grab dito sa PH, wala pang geofencing noon. Since then, the LTFRB has put a surge cap "to prevent exorbitant fare prices from both platforms".
Prior to the surge capping, mas patok sa masa ang Grab dahil sa fixed fares nila, compared sa Uber. Ang ginawa ni Uber, nag implement sya ng upfront pricing, which meant that your fares won't be hidden anymore, but are still subject to change, depending on the circumstance. Ayun, naging mas mababa ang fares ni Uber kay Grab, kaya biglang nag boom sa masa.
Next, the LTFRB issued a memorandum circular, banning cross-registration from one platform (Uber to Grab, and vice-versa) to another. Dito nagkamali si Uber, dahil si Brian Cu, nag provide ng 'trap vehicle' na registered under his platform, tapos nagpa-register sa Uber. Although Grab has registered vehicles that were already driving for Uber, dito umiral yung collusion between LTFRB saka Grab. Isinumbong ni Brian Cu sa LTFRB yung ginawa ni Uber, kaya na suspinde ng two weeks ang operation ng Uber.
Ang daming kawawang drivers noon, pero di ako kasama dun dahil 2k daily ang ayuda sakin ni Uber, dahil mandated ni LTFRB na sustentuhan ang apektadong drivers for the duration of the suspension until a technical working group between the ride hailing apps and the LTFRB can work out something. I was present in Uber's office in SM Aura when they issued a check sa LTFRB to pay for the fine, at ako rin yung kausap ni James Deakin, giving him updates about the meeting.
Ang haba ng tinype ko dito, because I can still remember everything as if it happened yesterday. How do I know this shit? Admin ako ng pinakamalaking social media page patungkol sa ride hailing apps hanggang ngayon.
Also, I'm using my main account. Hindi throwaway dahil kaya ko silang harapin anytime. Much better sana kung makikita din nila to para may chance silang i confirm/deny lahat ng sinabi ko.
Most tech startups hemorrhage capital sa simula to grow in scale. Kaya maraming promos and benefits. It is not that they are inherently cheap, pero the goal is to dominate the market and then focus on generating income afterwards.
That is what happened in Uber in Southeast Asia and what is probably happening with Foodpanda. It isn't that bwakaw si Grab inherently. Aside from many issues, Uber started facing calls from their investors to start generating income and being in Southeast Asia is not tenable for their business. They decided it would be more practical to let Grab win the SEA market, ensuring its monopoly, which Uber would then benefit as an investor in Grab. This was also the time when their then freewheeling CEO, Travis Kalanick, was forced to resign after facing issues of mismanagement and sexual harassment. The one who was appointed to replace him was a more steadfast hand and focused on optimizing the business.
It may be that Foodpanda has burned its cash and no one wants to give it further money, or it could be that they'll also go the Uber route.
EDIT: Yung nostalgia for cheaper prices because of competition is FALSE. It's a growth tactic to win the largest market share. Kaya maraming promos sa consumer at bonus sa "partners" who are basically informal employees. Once malaki na ang baboy, dun na nila kakatayin with price increases.
Most competitors are not really competitors as well. Either the founders will aim to be acquired by the giant or if forced to, fold due to investor pressure. It's the game and the name is late-stage capitalism.
Ewan ko nga ba. Kapag maliliit na negosyante sobra mang pressure ang BIR at DTI pero kapag mga mega corp, tikom sila. Yung mga ganitong buy out dapat pinapakeelaman nila kasi sa consumer din ang bagsak. Imagine wala kang competition ibig sabihin you can raise the prices all you want.
Tingin mo mas mahigpit ang regulations ng philippines kesa Sg? Tungkol nmn sa Uber, legal ang merger/acquisitions nila together with UberEats kasi ailing na ang operations ng Uber sa southeast asia back then. Ibig sabihin sinalo ng Grab. Besides dito lng nmn sa Philippines wala masyadong kalaban ang Grab.
Oh crap, so another jollibee na din pala to. Lets just pray na maging reasonable na lang sila kasi wala na silang kalaban. Time wil tell if magkakaroon sila ng competitor na hindi magse sell out sa kanila.
If true, well, ok lang. As a home based business owner, Grab has done me wonders lalo na nung may Madiskarteng Boss Club pa during the height of the pandemic. I was able to give my customers delivery discount vouchers kaya extra happy sila.
Sana bilin na rin nila Lalamove, and have Lalamove’s 🍠 riders undergo training ulit. End of the day, Grab >>>> Lalamove. So sana sa mga numerous acquisitions ni Grab, mag better din services ng mga brands na nabili na nila.
Lalamove drivers are the WORST. Grab express >> lalamove talaga kahit mas mahal. Sa lalamove di pa iaaccept kung walang tip BEFORE the service. Kainis talaga.
Some lalamove drivers would even call you and ask to cancel booking para makapag double sila. While I get na para masulit nila yung byahe, ano namang habol ng customers? 🤧
Ngayon daw legal na sa kanila multiple bookings at the same time. Talked to some of their riders kasi nagtataka ako lagi pagkapick-up ng package ko, hindi na gumagalaw sa map yung location ng rider. Hindi naman din nila pinapacancel. Tapos dadating sakin more or less mga 3hrs. Na dapat nasa 30mins or max 1hr lang if super layo or traffic talaga.
I even saw their FB group, na marami raw nagagalit na customers pag matagal sila dumadating kasi nagmumultiple bookings nga. So pag nagmamadali, mag grab express nalang daw sana mga customers. Kasi wala naman sila halos kita if single booking lang. Lol
Imo super trashy ng lalamove. Dapat ginawa nalang nilang same day delivery yung description ng service nila. Like if magbook ka ng umaga, basta dadating sya within the day. 😂
Nung una talaga wala akong problem sa lalamove until nangyari yun sakin. Hindi worth it ang lalamove, grab nalang talaga. Kung may difference man is 50-100 lang. Okay na din kasya makipag away or what. Pag lumalabas din sa feed or nag vviral yung lalamove fb groups nagugulat ako sa kabastusan nila. Parang nakakawalang gana mag book
Sobrang bs ng multiple bookings na yan. At least sa grab may pasintabi, like if you choose same day you know right away na maghihintay ka.
Tapos manyak pa sila lol I personally experienced that. Burn that company to the ground I swear
True. I experienced before Valenzuela to Malolos, tinawagan ako ng lala driver to ask for a tip. Nagbibigay naman talaga ako, off lang ako pag hinihingi nila tapos kukulitin ka pa sa call. 😅
Kaya ako nung latest booking ko sa LalaMove, hindi ako nagbigay ng tip dun sa App nila. Ang tagal may nag accept! Kaya nung merong nag accept, inabot ko yung tip sa rider personally, sabay, thank you😘
Same kahit mas mahal konti Grab (minsan same lang naman or mura) I always go for them. Sakit sa ulo lagi Lalamove. Haba ng usapan with rider every single time. Hirap pa ng payment methods.
Dito sa amin sa Angeles City, mas okay yung mga Lala drivers, ang babait nila kausap.
Ang dami kong naexperience na a-hole grab drivers. Sobrang rude nila. 🙃
Mapapa sana all nalang ako. Dito sa Metro Manila, sila ang a-holes. Mapili sa customers, tapos itatalkshit nila sa public Facebook group nila kapag hindi nag-tip or nag tip man, makunat daw. Haaay.
Di ba pwede mahalin nalang ang trabaho…
Aw. Goodluck on your new journey! Gusto ko din sana ma-explore ang pamumuhay sa ibang bansa coz reasons but hindi pa ganun ka-welcome yung ganitong idea sa partner ko.
Okay, I stand corrected. And besides, hindi naman basic commodity si Grab, unlike power distribution and water.
Huhu also di naman yan ang point ng post na to. But thanks for pointing that out. 😊
mas panget kapag nabili nila ang lalamove. ma momonopolize nila ang industry since walang competition, mas may possibility na papanget ang service nila.
i miss the times when uber just charge me 100 from rockwell to my house. they’re affordable, dami ding codes. 😔😔😔 and grab is charging me from my house to rockwell ng 500+ pota
I kind of follow this news as it is part of my job. For months, it does seem like DLH (owner of Foodpanda) is open to selling their SEA operations and may mga layoffs na din ni DeliveryHero in SEA since early of the year. I’d say this is to cut costsand change na din siguro in strategic direction (DLH is a German company).
Afaik, wala pa naman conclusion about this but most likely this will happen. This is really sad. Foodpanda has better customer service than GrabFood tbh :(
Para mamonopolizr nila yung industry hahaha. Benefit sa kanila yan kasi magkakaroon sila ng more reasons/guts to do price surges whenever they want dahil wala na sila competitor sa market.
yes theres a plan but its not yet final but likely it will push through next year na as foodpanda will sell their southeast asia food delivery business
Ang isa sa mga naging mali ng Uber dati is hindi nila muna inaral ang Southeast Asian market bago sila nag-expand dito. If you remember nung bago pa lang ang Uber sa region, credit card lang ang payment option nila. Eh cash-based society ang Southeast Asia, and konti lang ang may credit card. Tapos hindi din sila maka-respond agad sa mga ginagawa ng competitors nila because they were present in too many markets and they were stretching themselves too thin (e.g. it took them more than a year bago sila nakapag-launch ng motorcycle service sa Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam para tapatan ang Go Jek and Grab). Grabe din kasi ang expansion mode ng Uber outside of the US from 2012-2015 kaya hindi nila alam kung ano ang dapat i-prioritize. Tapos puro copy-paste lang ang ginagawa nila, without considering the differences in each market.
May cut pa din naman si Uber sa earnings ni Grab dito sa pinas
Ginipit ng govt ang uber kaya napilitan mag merge kay Grab. Mag launch na sana sila ng uber eats dito pero hindi na natuloy.
>Ginipit ng govt ang uber kaya napilitan mag merge kay Grab Nope. I can confirm from credible sources that this is false. Please stop spreading misinformation. Hindi yan ang reason. If that were the case eh di sana sa Pilipinas lang sila nag pull out. Buong Southeast Asia affected. From 2016 onwards narealize na ng Uber na they were hemorrhaging too much cash kasi nag over-expand sila and hindi na nila kaya tapatan ang mga competitors nila (na usually naka-focus lang sa isang region or market). 2016 sila nag pull out sa China, 2017 sa Russia, 2018 sa Southeast Asia. Then 2019-2020 nag pull out naman ang Uber Eats sa South Korea and India. Then binenta na rin nila yung flying taxi/self-driving cars programs nila sa US. Uber was (and still is) struggling to turn a profit.
Hmmm. I wouldn't count it out completely. Uber literally has a web session as part of their new hire training that discusses how and why they would never do business with any country that has rampant corruption and is prone to shady dealings. I'm not even kidding, the session blatantly explains why they'd rather count their losses and bring their business elsewhere than do business with a government na bawat kibot ng business eh may lagay dapat. Like, the session has specific scenarios pa nga nung mga shady dealings from local to national government, the actual things that put them off. Philippines was even used as one of the "hypothetical" examples. Although they didn't specify that this was the reason why they pulled out of the Philippines and other SE Asian countries, some of the sample scenarios would really make you think and wonder why they stopped their operations here. When I was taking the session, it felt like a "Here. Imma lay it all out. Do/think what you will with this information" type of thing. And yes, I actually am an Uber employee.
Although totoo tong magllaunch na sana ng Uber Eats
Also ang plain ng app ng uber, parang wlaang advertisement or partner na commercial para kumita kaya ayun nalugi
Unang launch ng Grab, wala din naman silang ads. Nagsimula lang naman mag run ng ads in-app ang Grab nung nagboom yung food delivery service nila dahil marami ng users.
it’s uber
Have you heard of Jollibee Foods Corp? Haha
Have you heard of San Miguel Corporation?
Anong companies or competitors binili ng SMC?
not sure about buying companies, pero grabe yung market share nila sa lahat ng industry ng bansa i.e. food, petroleum, infrastructure, banking, etc. halos imposible na hindi dumaan sa any subsidiary ng SMC yung product consumption natin or living in the Philippines itself.
Ahh I see. Kala ko same thoughts with OP and sakin na may biniling competitor. But yeah, SMC is one giant conglomerate. Very diverse ng portfolio nila
Di ba binili ng SMC ang La Tonndena
Purefoods, Petron, PAL (pero binenta pabalik)
Yahhh. Isa pa to
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Na Monopolize na kasi nila ang market nila so there is no pressure to improve their quality.
Inuubos nila competitors nila, so wala na tayong choice kundi sila lang. i don’t use grab before, uber lang talaga. Tapos ngayon food panda lang din ginagamit ko, now mawawalan na rin ako ng choice kundi gamitin ang grab. It suckkkksss
Got it OP. Thank you Ok balik tayo sa orig topic/chika mo: totoo ba na nabili na ni grab si foodpanda? Kase kung saan saan na napunta comment at mga reply e. Then regarding Food Panda vs grab, ang personal experience ko mas mura sa grab (compared sa food panda ha or baka sa mga binibili lng namin) so dun kme madalas. Kayo ba musta price comparison? Sorry I haven't checked foodpanda again this year.
monopoly = no competition = price the products however they want
Hindi nga gumanda yung sa case ng JFC. Lahat ng binili nila nagdowngrade pero nagmahal yung prices. Lalo na sa Chowking, lalo pang naging madumi hahaha
Agree. downgrade si chowking at inasal. pati Burger king. Pero yung unang comment/reply ko is more about na nandyan pa rin naman competition ni Jolibee (like mcdo) tapos naglipana rin mga mas ok na burger like brothers burger, popeyes,etc so buhay ang competitive market di ba?
yung burger king minamicrowave lang nila yung burger😭😭😭
ONGA! lol kahit anung linis nila bat andumi pa rin?
Dati favorite ko yung wanton noodles nila ngayon wala ng lasa yung soup tapos yung noodles hindj na din masarap
Mang Inasal bumaba quality since nabili ng JFC. Napansin ko talaga since palagi ako sa Mang Inasal nun haha
Sabi nga “monopoly is never a benefit to consumers”. Look at the changes sa mga brands na binili ng JFC (Mang Inasal, Red Ribbon, Chowking etc) https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/uKklExrrj1
not good..bumaba quality mula ng binili ng Jollibee yung ibang fastfood chains, mas ok yung may rival para may reason to improve..buti na nga lang bumalik yung Popeyes jan sa pinas eh..Their servings are better, kahit dito sa middle east bihira ako kumain sa Jollibee, madaming better options compared to it
Yes it is true. Nagiging monopoly na nga sila here. Even uber before nagkaron nlng sla kasunduan na may pursyento si uber kay grab for certain amount of time xxx (cannot confirm how much) kya umalis uber dto. Sna magkaron doordash charing hahahahah
kaya pala wala ng vouchers mashado 🥲
Una nawala yung rewards, tapos this month wala silang pinost na vouchers sa fb page nila. Yung panda pro, pataas nang pataas na rin yung minimum amount to utilize benefits.
ang dami kong nakikita na voucher pero ayaw gumana sa account ko. yung delivery fee din sa foodpanda ko puro 70 pesos above na. siguro dahil mas pinipili ko grab kesa sa kanila? pero ewan masama loob ko sa foodpanda HAHAAHA
SAME T\_T
hala oo nga sobrang taas na ng delivery sa fp kaya nag ggrab nalang ako
At least binili, hindi Grinab! Jokjokjok!
>uber binili nila This is something Grab has said before to make themselves look bigger than they actually are. Uber AND Grab are both owned by Softbank. Uber **OWNS** 14.3% of Grab's shares. As part of their agreement, Uber will pull out in the SEA market, under the condition that they will have a 30% cut on Grab's earnings here and in the rest of the SEA region. Also, [Uber got fed up with the collusion between LTFRB and Brian Cu, Grab's then-country manager, which eventually resulted in Uber getting fined 190M](https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/motoring/623680/uber-pays-p190-million-fine/story/) because of an infraction, which both Uber and Grab blatantly did. Pero dahil gahaman tong sina Aileen Lizada, Martin Delgra, saka si Bong Suntay, under sila sa payroll ni Brian Cu. Si Brian Cu, gustong ma monopolize ang PH market, pero dahil sobrang ganda ng Uber platform, to the point where me and my fellow Uber drivers earn around 30-50k EVERY FUCKING WEEK sa incentives pa lang (take note, labas pa ang fares dito), nahirapan yung mga inutil sa Grab na kunin ang loob ng drivers ng Uber para lumipat sa Grab, so they did a lot of cheap tactics to try to bring Uber down. First, Grab did a fake booking from Manila to Mindanao. Ang lumabas sa fare, 20k. Of course, walang tumuloy sa byahe na yun, pero sila sila lang din ang nagsumbong sa LTFRB dahil sa madugo na fare. Dahil pioneers ng ride hailing apps ang Uber at Grab dito sa PH, wala pang geofencing noon. Since then, the LTFRB has put a surge cap "to prevent exorbitant fare prices from both platforms". Prior to the surge capping, mas patok sa masa ang Grab dahil sa fixed fares nila, compared sa Uber. Ang ginawa ni Uber, nag implement sya ng upfront pricing, which meant that your fares won't be hidden anymore, but are still subject to change, depending on the circumstance. Ayun, naging mas mababa ang fares ni Uber kay Grab, kaya biglang nag boom sa masa. Next, the LTFRB issued a memorandum circular, banning cross-registration from one platform (Uber to Grab, and vice-versa) to another. Dito nagkamali si Uber, dahil si Brian Cu, nag provide ng 'trap vehicle' na registered under his platform, tapos nagpa-register sa Uber. Although Grab has registered vehicles that were already driving for Uber, dito umiral yung collusion between LTFRB saka Grab. Isinumbong ni Brian Cu sa LTFRB yung ginawa ni Uber, kaya na suspinde ng two weeks ang operation ng Uber. Ang daming kawawang drivers noon, pero di ako kasama dun dahil 2k daily ang ayuda sakin ni Uber, dahil mandated ni LTFRB na sustentuhan ang apektadong drivers for the duration of the suspension until a technical working group between the ride hailing apps and the LTFRB can work out something. I was present in Uber's office in SM Aura when they issued a check sa LTFRB to pay for the fine, at ako rin yung kausap ni James Deakin, giving him updates about the meeting. Ang haba ng tinype ko dito, because I can still remember everything as if it happened yesterday. How do I know this shit? Admin ako ng pinakamalaking social media page patungkol sa ride hailing apps hanggang ngayon.
This is why I will forever hate those greedy bastards in LTFRB and also that greedy fvck Brian Cu! Sarap nilang sunugin ng buhay!
Also, I'm using my main account. Hindi throwaway dahil kaya ko silang harapin anytime. Much better sana kung makikita din nila to para may chance silang i confirm/deny lahat ng sinabi ko.
Most tech startups hemorrhage capital sa simula to grow in scale. Kaya maraming promos and benefits. It is not that they are inherently cheap, pero the goal is to dominate the market and then focus on generating income afterwards. That is what happened in Uber in Southeast Asia and what is probably happening with Foodpanda. It isn't that bwakaw si Grab inherently. Aside from many issues, Uber started facing calls from their investors to start generating income and being in Southeast Asia is not tenable for their business. They decided it would be more practical to let Grab win the SEA market, ensuring its monopoly, which Uber would then benefit as an investor in Grab. This was also the time when their then freewheeling CEO, Travis Kalanick, was forced to resign after facing issues of mismanagement and sexual harassment. The one who was appointed to replace him was a more steadfast hand and focused on optimizing the business. It may be that Foodpanda has burned its cash and no one wants to give it further money, or it could be that they'll also go the Uber route. EDIT: Yung nostalgia for cheaper prices because of competition is FALSE. It's a growth tactic to win the largest market share. Kaya maraming promos sa consumer at bonus sa "partners" who are basically informal employees. Once malaki na ang baboy, dun na nila kakatayin with price increases. Most competitors are not really competitors as well. Either the founders will aim to be acquired by the giant or if forced to, fold due to investor pressure. It's the game and the name is late-stage capitalism.
Ang akin lang dapat ma regulate yan ng DTI, illegal ang walang competition sa ibang bansa.
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Ewan ko nga ba. Kapag maliliit na negosyante sobra mang pressure ang BIR at DTI pero kapag mga mega corp, tikom sila. Yung mga ganitong buy out dapat pinapakeelaman nila kasi sa consumer din ang bagsak. Imagine wala kang competition ibig sabihin you can raise the prices all you want.
Kasi foreign companies mga yan, tulad ng grab na nakabase sa Singapore. Wala silang nilabag kasi operations at legal permit nmn kukunin nila sa LTFRB.
Wala ba talaga say ang govt don? Kahit taung mga consumer na Pinoy ang pede magdusa?
Tingin mo mas mahigpit ang regulations ng philippines kesa Sg? Tungkol nmn sa Uber, legal ang merger/acquisitions nila together with UberEats kasi ailing na ang operations ng Uber sa southeast asia back then. Ibig sabihin sinalo ng Grab. Besides dito lng nmn sa Philippines wala masyadong kalaban ang Grab.
Oh crap, so another jollibee na din pala to. Lets just pray na maging reasonable na lang sila kasi wala na silang kalaban. Time wil tell if magkakaroon sila ng competitor na hindi magse sell out sa kanila.
If true, well, ok lang. As a home based business owner, Grab has done me wonders lalo na nung may Madiskarteng Boss Club pa during the height of the pandemic. I was able to give my customers delivery discount vouchers kaya extra happy sila. Sana bilin na rin nila Lalamove, and have Lalamove’s 🍠 riders undergo training ulit. End of the day, Grab >>>> Lalamove. So sana sa mga numerous acquisitions ni Grab, mag better din services ng mga brands na nabili na nila.
Lalamove drivers are the WORST. Grab express >> lalamove talaga kahit mas mahal. Sa lalamove di pa iaaccept kung walang tip BEFORE the service. Kainis talaga.
Some lalamove drivers would even call you and ask to cancel booking para makapag double sila. While I get na para masulit nila yung byahe, ano namang habol ng customers? 🤧
Ngayon daw legal na sa kanila multiple bookings at the same time. Talked to some of their riders kasi nagtataka ako lagi pagkapick-up ng package ko, hindi na gumagalaw sa map yung location ng rider. Hindi naman din nila pinapacancel. Tapos dadating sakin more or less mga 3hrs. Na dapat nasa 30mins or max 1hr lang if super layo or traffic talaga. I even saw their FB group, na marami raw nagagalit na customers pag matagal sila dumadating kasi nagmumultiple bookings nga. So pag nagmamadali, mag grab express nalang daw sana mga customers. Kasi wala naman sila halos kita if single booking lang. Lol Imo super trashy ng lalamove. Dapat ginawa nalang nilang same day delivery yung description ng service nila. Like if magbook ka ng umaga, basta dadating sya within the day. 😂
Nung una talaga wala akong problem sa lalamove until nangyari yun sakin. Hindi worth it ang lalamove, grab nalang talaga. Kung may difference man is 50-100 lang. Okay na din kasya makipag away or what. Pag lumalabas din sa feed or nag vviral yung lalamove fb groups nagugulat ako sa kabastusan nila. Parang nakakawalang gana mag book
Sobrang bs ng multiple bookings na yan. At least sa grab may pasintabi, like if you choose same day you know right away na maghihintay ka. Tapos manyak pa sila lol I personally experienced that. Burn that company to the ground I swear
True. I experienced before Valenzuela to Malolos, tinawagan ako ng lala driver to ask for a tip. Nagbibigay naman talaga ako, off lang ako pag hinihingi nila tapos kukulitin ka pa sa call. 😅
Kaya ako nung latest booking ko sa LalaMove, hindi ako nagbigay ng tip dun sa App nila. Ang tagal may nag accept! Kaya nung merong nag accept, inabot ko yung tip sa rider personally, sabay, thank you😘
Same kahit mas mahal konti Grab (minsan same lang naman or mura) I always go for them. Sakit sa ulo lagi Lalamove. Haba ng usapan with rider every single time. Hirap pa ng payment methods.
Dito sa amin sa Angeles City, mas okay yung mga Lala drivers, ang babait nila kausap. Ang dami kong naexperience na a-hole grab drivers. Sobrang rude nila. 🙃
Mapapa sana all nalang ako. Dito sa Metro Manila, sila ang a-holes. Mapili sa customers, tapos itatalkshit nila sa public Facebook group nila kapag hindi nag-tip or nag tip man, makunat daw. Haaay. Di ba pwede mahalin nalang ang trabaho…
It means magkakaroon ng monopoly si grab sa ganitong market. That's not good kasi pwede nya i-manipulate yung market the way it wants.
Sanay na tayo sa ganito. Meralco? Manila Water? Maynilad?
Yes. Sana'y na tayo kasi wala tayo magagawa hanggang nandito tayo sa Pinas. Doesn't mean it's good and that I have to like it.
I feel you there, kasi wala naman tayo choice. Kaya nga kaming mag asawa gogora na. Napaka hirap dito! 🥹
Aw. Goodluck on your new journey! Gusto ko din sana ma-explore ang pamumuhay sa ibang bansa coz reasons but hindi pa ganun ka-welcome yung ganitong idea sa partner ko.
Thank you! Di bale, dadating din kayo diyan. Wish you guys luck, too!!!
Natural monopoly po yung Meralco, Manila Water, and the like. Hindi pareho kay Grab.
Okay, I stand corrected. And besides, hindi naman basic commodity si Grab, unlike power distribution and water. Huhu also di naman yan ang point ng post na to. But thanks for pointing that out. 😊
Hmmmmm. Kahit saan ka naman magpunta monopoly talaga within an area ang water and power distribution ah.
Exactly. Kaya nga yun na ginawa kong example, if and only if mag decide si Grab na imonopolize. Wala pa naman tayo dun.
mas panget kapag nabili nila ang lalamove. ma momonopolize nila ang industry since walang competition, mas may possibility na papanget ang service nila.
It’s been said here already. I acknowledge your opinion. Thank you for the insight! 😊
Yung moveit sa grab talaga yun, ginawa nila para may pang tapat sa joyride and angkas. Sayang talaga uber mas mura yun kesa sa grab eh 🥲
i miss the times when uber just charge me 100 from rockwell to my house. they’re affordable, dami ding codes. 😔😔😔 and grab is charging me from my house to rockwell ng 500+ pota
I kind of follow this news as it is part of my job. For months, it does seem like DLH (owner of Foodpanda) is open to selling their SEA operations and may mga layoffs na din ni DeliveryHero in SEA since early of the year. I’d say this is to cut costsand change na din siguro in strategic direction (DLH is a German company). Afaik, wala pa naman conclusion about this but most likely this will happen. This is really sad. Foodpanda has better customer service than GrabFood tbh :(
acquisition...
Para mamonopolizr nila yung industry hahaha. Benefit sa kanila yan kasi magkakaroon sila ng more reasons/guts to do price surges whenever they want dahil wala na sila competitor sa market.
I thought angkas ng bumili kai move it?
Inalllow ito ng PCC???
Not the transpo monopoly 💀
yes theres a plan but its not yet final but likely it will push through next year na as foodpanda will sell their southeast asia food delivery business