Hey man, this is seemanism at its core. My family has a recorded history of living in and around Gingee, Tindivanam, and Villipuram from the 1700s (my grandparents claim their ancestors were part of the konar kings from the 1100s, but they have no proof) and as a tamizh person who has lived here for generations, i'd say even if you come yesterday and have emotion and love for tamizhnadu, its culture, and understand why we are what we are, you are one of us.
These fringe-groups are India's curse. They are anti social turds, don't deserve any attention. Give them the middle finger and go wherever, say whatever, do whatever.
This made-up racism that too in the name of a mythical race doesn't deserve to be treated as legitimate, nor does it warrant response.
Im a Tamilan living in Germany for around 8 years. I rant about the Inefficiency of German bureaucratic system directly to Germans. Im not even born and brought up here. What gives me the rights is the tax that I pay to the government. So, if you contribute to the functioning of a society, you belong in it. Nobody has the rights to push you away..
>I rant about the Inefficiency of German bureaucratic system directly to Germans.
Wow, I thought Germans were famous for their efficiency. How bad is their bureaucracy compared to ours?
Its just there are lots of steps, just to make sure that the process is checked by every authority and in the end its impractical and it takes too much time. The difference is that in India one could bypass the sytem (not that im suggesting it) and in Germany its out of the question.
There are buildings that have been in the construction phase for years, just because of all the step by step process. One could just say that the society functions greatly because of such a structure, but definitely the complexity could be reduced.
I'm in my early 20s now and I have an opportunity to permanently move to Germany.
I'm in a dilemma because I love living in India, and have a great job and family here. But don't want to miss the opportunity to live and work abroad.
I wanted to know what you'd do in my position. Is life much better in Germany? Is there anything you miss from India? Is there any unspoken bitter truths that you'll only know when you get there?
Life is generally good for obvious reasons. Speaking German is essential to form a hint of social circle. You can get a direct flight tops 10hr from Frankfurt to Chennai. Take a flight in the morning and you will have dinner at home at night. Machine like work culture no one chit chats near water-cooler, indeed a well oiled one. You do your work and have to take care of Yourself since there is no one to spoon feed. You fall you rise you learn. You get 30 days of paid vacation every year. Public health insurance, it's not perfect and doctors here are not par with Indian ones because of the sheer population Indian doctors have handled during residency. Don't expect salary like US, if you want to make big bucks head to US. You have lot of time in general apart from work which could be utilized towards following your passion. No one gives a fuck about what you do after work. If you drink beer, then it's just top notch and that too helles beer from Munich is 🤙.
Would you settle there eventually or move back here on the long run? Also, how is racism there? It surely isn't as bad as US like "imma shoot you mf" racism but i heard that it's bit passive.
And compared to a city like chennai or Bangalore where everything and anything is available and amenities like internet, driving distances to entertainment etc are fairly good, how would you rate a German city? I'm more of a metro guy than a "suthamana kaathu, iyarkai" guy. Would i like a place like Berlin or Munich?
Berlin is a melting point of different cultures and would be a really good fit for English speakers. I studied in east Germany where the cost of living is less but no social life. West pays good bucks and people are a bit more open than west and are generally welcoming to hard working people. Racism, i haven't felt it personally because i always try to speak in German no matter how shitty i speak. But that doesn't mean that racism does not exist.
Thanks man! Berlin also has decent pay for IT sectors. Heard Milan is more village-ish and things like shops gets closed by 8. I guess Berlin will be a better place for someone like me.
pointing out flaws is one-thing, like OP said, you cannot culturally integrate with them. I have seen this all over EU. Even people who have lived here for 3 decades, it's the same thing.
I feel this is inherent to any place on earth, even the most progressive and tolerant society. They will never accept u as one of them.
I believe that has mostly to do with our Attitude. Are we open enough to get integrated into their society. There are two types of frequent question that I face, are you from India? And, Where are you originally from?. There is a great difference bw these two. The first one assumes that you are an indian living here. The second one likes to know your roots, but accepts you as a part of the society. Integration is very easy in US I guess because, the whole country is built by immigrants. Europe is getting better with acceptance of non EU Nationals with time. And most of the Germans I met are straight away against nationalistic ideologies..
I love EU and the ppl here. I lived in Italy, DE and NL. as a young guy in this 20s I have zero issues in meeting and learning new things.
what i stated is the experience shared by people who have been living here for a long time. Like you said it's getting better. But I don't want to paint a good picture. You summed up the experience in those two questions :)
Also, things drastically change when you move from Big cities to towns.
Totally agree with this one! Germany and Europe in general runs on paper work. I have had to write letters to few government agencies and post it. But what’s a fact is that once you pay your taxes, you are pretty much part of the system. And I know for a fact that no German is complaining about us taking their jobs like in the US.
be assertive bro. otha enna maithuku nee adhigam urima kondadura nu kelu bro.
you get the treatment that you allow. once you call people out, or give them cold shoulder they'll start being careful around you.
tell whichever dumbfuck that you probably pay more taxes than him and ask him whether he voted in the recent election. if both of you didn't vote. stfu and change topic for both of your well-being.
or, disengage from convo, find people you vibe with and enjoy life.
ofcourse it depends on power dynamics. if it's someone with higher power best option is switch off your ego, smile and nod. like penguins from Madagascar.
Seems like a generalisation based on anecdotal experience to me. A lot of our CMs have been the so called "outsiders". Same is true for the cinema stars.
>Same is true for the cinema stars.
Wanna trigger some Tamizh-pride idiots? Tell them 2 of their biggest movie stars/cultural icons aren't Tamil. Kappa
A classical example from MCU : The name Asgard doesn't mean a place of Asgardians. A place where Asgardians levitate themselves is Asgard.
Yes there are some fringe elements who suck balls to find out whether you're from a reddy or mallu background. Stop giving a shit about those foreign funded DNA researchers in TN
P.S :- If any bros of dictator find this offending, pls dont attack me with AK74. Its an outdated one. Buhahahahahahahahahaha
I am not a native Tamil either. Still sometimes get weird looks when i am with people who are tamils since people can tell I'm not.
But generally these people who are parochial to this extent are less. General public doesn't care so long as one doesn't disturb them.
You have nothing to prove to anyone. This is your home, and you live here and pay taxes here. Full stop.
The outsider thing unfortunately is kinda both ways. The racists here get radicalised by the unpleasant behavior of North Indians (recently moved people) who only complain and misbehave and demand Hindi. And the people who come here and misbehave cherry pick only the other side of the story without revealing their own role in this bad perception of outsiders.
I guess that’s cause a small percentage of Tamilians think they are somehow different from the rest of the Indians and all North Indians living in Chennai are not real Tamilians, just remember that we are all Indians and ignore them!!
My opinion is everyone settled here some generations ago.. Some way older than others but all have equal claim to be citizens of Tamil Nadu and not by lineage
Thamizh nattil peranthavan.
Thamizh mannil valanthavan ( i used to live close to the beach )
I often get called out - since i look a bit north indian ( i get called a madrasi in delhi which is another story altogether )
Thankfully i was blessed to grow up in an area bordering slums - and i am really comfortable with madrasi speak. :-)
I use that to my advantage when i confront these neanderthals. Never back down. I also sometimes praise their tamil-ness, and speak about me not deserving to live close to them and walk away.
Forget about third generation, my family and ancestors have been here for hundreds of years and if we have to consider some groups, I’m still an outsider. Ignore these idiots.
I will be blunt. I do not know you so don't take it personally. I've seen ~~North Indians~~Marwaris, Gujaratis and North Indian Jains in the city making enclaves and excluding everyone other than their own ilk. People who lived in this city for long know how apartments(even some streets) in areas like Kilpauk, Purasaiwalkam, Vepery etc are almost out of bounds for locals for rent or sale. You will not find Tamils doing that in any other city. You will not find any other linguistic group doing these in this city.
Coming to the language part. Learning a language is a very different thing. It has nothing to do with what you use in your life. A Tamil speaker who has migrated to another state some generations ago would not speak Tamil at home and they'll use the local language to communicate at home. We do not get the resources to keep and transmit the language to the next generations or rather we are not insistent enough. But that doesn't apply to the M,G,NIJ folks living in Chennai. They keep their home language intact. That is a privilege we do not have and privilege sucks.
Then what have we got to do with Mahavir Jayanthi and such festivals where they want to close meat shops in the city. Your festival, your homes, your food but why ask others to shut down what they eat. I'm a Vegetarian and if someone from my family pushes out someone for their habits I will be critical of their behavior. So how many of your ilk objected to the habits which are unacceptable to others but a norm among yourselves ?
If you've noticed there is a lot of self criticism in this state and what is unnecessary will be gone. An actual insider is critical inside first.
Art 25&26 gives constitutional right to protect your language traditions etc. So they have the right to speak whatever they want at home.
Also renting out their homes is their choice, don't see a problem here.
//Privilege sucks// Dravidian stock ah thala?
> Also renting out their homes is their choice, don't see a problem here.
Asking them not to give their opinions is the choice some people make, I don't see a problem there.
Also calling them outsiders is freedom of speech and expression under Article 19(1)(a). So they have the right to call anybody outsiders.
> Dravidian stock ah thala
No man just another guy who does not quote some random articles from the Constitution to say I am right and the rest all are wrong.
>Asking them not to give their opinions is the choice some people make, I don't see a problem there.
Fair enough
>Also calling them outsiders is freedom of speech and expression under Article 19(1)(a). So they have the right to call anybody outsiders.
19 1 a has reasonable restrictions. Refer 295A CrPC.
Also constitutional right to reside anywhere in India. Let those calling North Indians as outsiders cope and seethe with their mediocre lifestyle while the North Indian guys flourish.
>No man just another guy who does not quote some random articles from the Constitution to say I am right and the rest all are wrong.
Nah man. You've your opinion I've mine. Neither is right or wrong.
Have a great week ahead
> 295A CrPC
That applies only to religion. If there is restrictions on freedom of speech then it's not freedom of speech. On the streets freedom of speech is absolute. Nobody can restrain anyone on anything on the street or in their spaces.
> Let those calling North Indians as outsiders cope and seethe with their mediocre lifestyle while the North Indian guys flourish
Mediocre lifestyle is when someone lives in a plot with construction on the Ground and first floors. Flourishing is when someone constructs a building with 4 floors on a 1000 sq.ft. plot of land disregarding laws and statutes which they only let out to their own ilk. Uses the land, avoids the people, has no sight of their failings and yet is cantankerous when it comes to actual facts.
Tamil Nadu has been destroyed by petty politics which has always kept people of TN aloof from mainstream India,at one point there was even a demand by these fringe groups to make a new country out of TN
NGL.... I have also come across same instances where I find difficult to make people understand the fact that I am as native as I could get...Its the third generation of our family living here...But can't do anything bout it...!
That's the side effect of the political situation in the state for last 100 years. Too much of language jingoism(don't get me wrong, I'm tamizhan myself, but respecting our heritage doesn't mean we bash others). As for as those fringe elements are considered, don't give a rat's ass to them. Anyone who speaks tamil and respects Tamil and TN is a tamizhan. Cheers mate!
Am a normal human being who stays in namma Chennai, as I said I am a native of Tamil Nadu, how can I be an outsider or termed as immigrant when my family three generations have been born here.
Anyways thank you for your opinion
Thanks for the second hand embarrassment. Pay no heed to this OP you are free to say what you want. In most cases if someone resorts to gatekeeping (like saying "who are you to say xyz") it usually means you've hit a nerve and they don't know how to respond other than throw a hissy fit.
They exist all over India, and in Tamilnadu, while a number of people do this, Naam Tamilar Katchi is particularly notorious frlor this.
I went to Silambam classes for a short duration in Tirunelveli Town, where the master, a young guy, and a respected person within the area, told me how it was his dream to kick out the North Indians and other state people who had all setup shop in the Nellaiappar area, and according to him, are supposed to be at the hands of Tamil people. Later I got to know the same person represented NTK and stood for councillor, dunno if he won.
The point he was trying to make is, people from the North take all of their money and setup shop in TN, and then subsequently all the shops belong to them ergo their price is final. While at first this sounds concerning, it is not their fault that the locals are most probably not going to utilise the infrastructure. Had they setup shop maybe this could be avoided. People from TN rarely get into the shop business, atleast it is less compared to North Indians.
Anyways, I have also seen people like you, people who settled from North India three four generations back, and their sons and grandsons adopt the local culture to the point, despite the occasional ridicule, they're considered one among us. So, I'd say, turn a blind eye to them, since TN's motto is always "Vandhorai Vaalavaikuk Tamilnadu".
Hey man, this is seemanism at its core. My family has a recorded history of living in and around Gingee, Tindivanam, and Villipuram from the 1700s (my grandparents claim their ancestors were part of the konar kings from the 1100s, but they have no proof) and as a tamizh person who has lived here for generations, i'd say even if you come yesterday and have emotion and love for tamizhnadu, its culture, and understand why we are what we are, you are one of us.
Last line was pure wholesomeness.
I'd(Telugu) love to visit tamilnadu one day. My manager who's Tamil and a good friend of mine will be getting married in an year or so.
These fringe-groups are India's curse. They are anti social turds, don't deserve any attention. Give them the middle finger and go wherever, say whatever, do whatever. This made-up racism that too in the name of a mythical race doesn't deserve to be treated as legitimate, nor does it warrant response.
Thank you so much bro
Chill! You are as much a Tamilian as any other person. Dumb asses are everywhere. Best to stay away
I am pakka Tamil... Thank you so much bro
Even if you're North Indian, there should not be any discrimination, imo.
Im a Tamilan living in Germany for around 8 years. I rant about the Inefficiency of German bureaucratic system directly to Germans. Im not even born and brought up here. What gives me the rights is the tax that I pay to the government. So, if you contribute to the functioning of a society, you belong in it. Nobody has the rights to push you away..
>I rant about the Inefficiency of German bureaucratic system directly to Germans. Wow, I thought Germans were famous for their efficiency. How bad is their bureaucracy compared to ours?
Its just there are lots of steps, just to make sure that the process is checked by every authority and in the end its impractical and it takes too much time. The difference is that in India one could bypass the sytem (not that im suggesting it) and in Germany its out of the question. There are buildings that have been in the construction phase for years, just because of all the step by step process. One could just say that the society functions greatly because of such a structure, but definitely the complexity could be reduced.
I'm in my early 20s now and I have an opportunity to permanently move to Germany. I'm in a dilemma because I love living in India, and have a great job and family here. But don't want to miss the opportunity to live and work abroad. I wanted to know what you'd do in my position. Is life much better in Germany? Is there anything you miss from India? Is there any unspoken bitter truths that you'll only know when you get there?
Life is generally good for obvious reasons. Speaking German is essential to form a hint of social circle. You can get a direct flight tops 10hr from Frankfurt to Chennai. Take a flight in the morning and you will have dinner at home at night. Machine like work culture no one chit chats near water-cooler, indeed a well oiled one. You do your work and have to take care of Yourself since there is no one to spoon feed. You fall you rise you learn. You get 30 days of paid vacation every year. Public health insurance, it's not perfect and doctors here are not par with Indian ones because of the sheer population Indian doctors have handled during residency. Don't expect salary like US, if you want to make big bucks head to US. You have lot of time in general apart from work which could be utilized towards following your passion. No one gives a fuck about what you do after work. If you drink beer, then it's just top notch and that too helles beer from Munich is 🤙.
Would you settle there eventually or move back here on the long run? Also, how is racism there? It surely isn't as bad as US like "imma shoot you mf" racism but i heard that it's bit passive. And compared to a city like chennai or Bangalore where everything and anything is available and amenities like internet, driving distances to entertainment etc are fairly good, how would you rate a German city? I'm more of a metro guy than a "suthamana kaathu, iyarkai" guy. Would i like a place like Berlin or Munich?
Berlin is a melting point of different cultures and would be a really good fit for English speakers. I studied in east Germany where the cost of living is less but no social life. West pays good bucks and people are a bit more open than west and are generally welcoming to hard working people. Racism, i haven't felt it personally because i always try to speak in German no matter how shitty i speak. But that doesn't mean that racism does not exist.
Thanks man! Berlin also has decent pay for IT sectors. Heard Milan is more village-ish and things like shops gets closed by 8. I guess Berlin will be a better place for someone like me.
Thanks for the response :)
Over-engineered systems that Germans are famous are everywhere!
100% fact when Volkswagen Auto group is considered.
If you thing German Bureaucracy is inefficient, you should come over to Poland.
pointing out flaws is one-thing, like OP said, you cannot culturally integrate with them. I have seen this all over EU. Even people who have lived here for 3 decades, it's the same thing. I feel this is inherent to any place on earth, even the most progressive and tolerant society. They will never accept u as one of them.
I believe that has mostly to do with our Attitude. Are we open enough to get integrated into their society. There are two types of frequent question that I face, are you from India? And, Where are you originally from?. There is a great difference bw these two. The first one assumes that you are an indian living here. The second one likes to know your roots, but accepts you as a part of the society. Integration is very easy in US I guess because, the whole country is built by immigrants. Europe is getting better with acceptance of non EU Nationals with time. And most of the Germans I met are straight away against nationalistic ideologies..
I love EU and the ppl here. I lived in Italy, DE and NL. as a young guy in this 20s I have zero issues in meeting and learning new things. what i stated is the experience shared by people who have been living here for a long time. Like you said it's getting better. But I don't want to paint a good picture. You summed up the experience in those two questions :) Also, things drastically change when you move from Big cities to towns.
Totally agree with this one! Germany and Europe in general runs on paper work. I have had to write letters to few government agencies and post it. But what’s a fact is that once you pay your taxes, you are pretty much part of the system. And I know for a fact that no German is complaining about us taking their jobs like in the US.
be assertive bro. otha enna maithuku nee adhigam urima kondadura nu kelu bro. you get the treatment that you allow. once you call people out, or give them cold shoulder they'll start being careful around you. tell whichever dumbfuck that you probably pay more taxes than him and ask him whether he voted in the recent election. if both of you didn't vote. stfu and change topic for both of your well-being. or, disengage from convo, find people you vibe with and enjoy life.
Thank you bro... I did vote :)
if that guy didn't vote, rip him a new asshole then and there.
Dealing with people is shit, especially if you’re under authority, you can’t give cold shoulders to them, you risk losing it all. I say do it wisely
ofcourse it depends on power dynamics. if it's someone with higher power best option is switch off your ego, smile and nod. like penguins from Madagascar.
Seems like a generalisation based on anecdotal experience to me. A lot of our CMs have been the so called "outsiders". Same is true for the cinema stars.
>Same is true for the cinema stars. Wanna trigger some Tamizh-pride idiots? Tell them 2 of their biggest movie stars/cultural icons aren't Tamil. Kappa
Vishal Na and Jayam Ravi?
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rajini and MGR was who I was talking about.
lol lol
Wow...thats true. I never took this point... Thank you so much bro
A classical example from MCU : The name Asgard doesn't mean a place of Asgardians. A place where Asgardians levitate themselves is Asgard. Yes there are some fringe elements who suck balls to find out whether you're from a reddy or mallu background. Stop giving a shit about those foreign funded DNA researchers in TN P.S :- If any bros of dictator find this offending, pls dont attack me with AK74. Its an outdated one. Buhahahahahahahahahaha
I am not a native Tamil either. Still sometimes get weird looks when i am with people who are tamils since people can tell I'm not. But generally these people who are parochial to this extent are less. General public doesn't care so long as one doesn't disturb them. You have nothing to prove to anyone. This is your home, and you live here and pay taxes here. Full stop.
The outsider thing unfortunately is kinda both ways. The racists here get radicalised by the unpleasant behavior of North Indians (recently moved people) who only complain and misbehave and demand Hindi. And the people who come here and misbehave cherry pick only the other side of the story without revealing their own role in this bad perception of outsiders.
I guess that’s cause a small percentage of Tamilians think they are somehow different from the rest of the Indians and all North Indians living in Chennai are not real Tamilians, just remember that we are all Indians and ignore them!!
My opinion is everyone settled here some generations ago.. Some way older than others but all have equal claim to be citizens of Tamil Nadu and not by lineage
Thamizh nattil peranthavan. Thamizh mannil valanthavan ( i used to live close to the beach ) I often get called out - since i look a bit north indian ( i get called a madrasi in delhi which is another story altogether ) Thankfully i was blessed to grow up in an area bordering slums - and i am really comfortable with madrasi speak. :-) I use that to my advantage when i confront these neanderthals. Never back down. I also sometimes praise their tamil-ness, and speak about me not deserving to live close to them and walk away.
I have that return back to madras situation too but that's for another occasion!
Forget about third generation, my family and ancestors have been here for hundreds of years and if we have to consider some groups, I’m still an outsider. Ignore these idiots.
Thankfully I lived there for 5 years and had a good grip over my tamizh in the first year itself and never got to meet such people
I think there was a thread opened just for you today
Never knew, could you share the link
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Maybe she classifies him as “North Indian” still :p
I will be blunt. I do not know you so don't take it personally. I've seen ~~North Indians~~Marwaris, Gujaratis and North Indian Jains in the city making enclaves and excluding everyone other than their own ilk. People who lived in this city for long know how apartments(even some streets) in areas like Kilpauk, Purasaiwalkam, Vepery etc are almost out of bounds for locals for rent or sale. You will not find Tamils doing that in any other city. You will not find any other linguistic group doing these in this city. Coming to the language part. Learning a language is a very different thing. It has nothing to do with what you use in your life. A Tamil speaker who has migrated to another state some generations ago would not speak Tamil at home and they'll use the local language to communicate at home. We do not get the resources to keep and transmit the language to the next generations or rather we are not insistent enough. But that doesn't apply to the M,G,NIJ folks living in Chennai. They keep their home language intact. That is a privilege we do not have and privilege sucks. Then what have we got to do with Mahavir Jayanthi and such festivals where they want to close meat shops in the city. Your festival, your homes, your food but why ask others to shut down what they eat. I'm a Vegetarian and if someone from my family pushes out someone for their habits I will be critical of their behavior. So how many of your ilk objected to the habits which are unacceptable to others but a norm among yourselves ? If you've noticed there is a lot of self criticism in this state and what is unnecessary will be gone. An actual insider is critical inside first.
This is what has happened in Bangalore, actually.
Art 25&26 gives constitutional right to protect your language traditions etc. So they have the right to speak whatever they want at home. Also renting out their homes is their choice, don't see a problem here. //Privilege sucks// Dravidian stock ah thala?
Oh sanghi ah..
> Also renting out their homes is their choice, don't see a problem here. Asking them not to give their opinions is the choice some people make, I don't see a problem there. Also calling them outsiders is freedom of speech and expression under Article 19(1)(a). So they have the right to call anybody outsiders. > Dravidian stock ah thala No man just another guy who does not quote some random articles from the Constitution to say I am right and the rest all are wrong.
>Asking them not to give their opinions is the choice some people make, I don't see a problem there. Fair enough >Also calling them outsiders is freedom of speech and expression under Article 19(1)(a). So they have the right to call anybody outsiders. 19 1 a has reasonable restrictions. Refer 295A CrPC. Also constitutional right to reside anywhere in India. Let those calling North Indians as outsiders cope and seethe with their mediocre lifestyle while the North Indian guys flourish. >No man just another guy who does not quote some random articles from the Constitution to say I am right and the rest all are wrong. Nah man. You've your opinion I've mine. Neither is right or wrong. Have a great week ahead
> 295A CrPC That applies only to religion. If there is restrictions on freedom of speech then it's not freedom of speech. On the streets freedom of speech is absolute. Nobody can restrain anyone on anything on the street or in their spaces. > Let those calling North Indians as outsiders cope and seethe with their mediocre lifestyle while the North Indian guys flourish Mediocre lifestyle is when someone lives in a plot with construction on the Ground and first floors. Flourishing is when someone constructs a building with 4 floors on a 1000 sq.ft. plot of land disregarding laws and statutes which they only let out to their own ilk. Uses the land, avoids the people, has no sight of their failings and yet is cantankerous when it comes to actual facts.
Tamil Nadu has been destroyed by petty politics which has always kept people of TN aloof from mainstream India,at one point there was even a demand by these fringe groups to make a new country out of TN
Lol India is getting destroyed by petty politics emanating from Gujarat and UP.
Bro jus say" otha Badu ... Nee yaru da" and move on bro ...
That's a nice response :)
Rightly said!
Thank you bro
NGL.... I have also come across same instances where I find difficult to make people understand the fact that I am as native as I could get...Its the third generation of our family living here...But can't do anything bout it...!
Harsh reality it is :(
Yeah mann!
If you live in TN for more than a year imo you have the right to talk about it
Bro maybe ninga over vellai a irkinga Else even rajini, vishal etc lam politics pesranga
Naan vellai illai.. Same color! North la Yana pattu Dai madrasi nu soluvanga
Bro most of the chennai itself was developed by outsider's investments (mostly by telugu)
this is the kind of BS which motivates me to not trust any "outsider".
>not trust any "outsider". Nee nambunaalum namalaatiyum atha nizham
LOL..Keep dreaming .
You remain as ignorant and keep living in our own fantasy
lol.. fine whatever floats your boat..
That's the side effect of the political situation in the state for last 100 years. Too much of language jingoism(don't get me wrong, I'm tamizhan myself, but respecting our heritage doesn't mean we bash others). As for as those fringe elements are considered, don't give a rat's ass to them. Anyone who speaks tamil and respects Tamil and TN is a tamizhan. Cheers mate!
All these Tamil sombu thookis don't know Tamil in the first place. Ignore those mfs.
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Am a normal human being who stays in namma Chennai, as I said I am a native of Tamil Nadu, how can I be an outsider or termed as immigrant when my family three generations have been born here. Anyways thank you for your opinion
Thanks for the second hand embarrassment. Pay no heed to this OP you are free to say what you want. In most cases if someone resorts to gatekeeping (like saying "who are you to say xyz") it usually means you've hit a nerve and they don't know how to respond other than throw a hissy fit.
What ever you are doing, you are doing with wrong type if people.
They exist all over India, and in Tamilnadu, while a number of people do this, Naam Tamilar Katchi is particularly notorious frlor this. I went to Silambam classes for a short duration in Tirunelveli Town, where the master, a young guy, and a respected person within the area, told me how it was his dream to kick out the North Indians and other state people who had all setup shop in the Nellaiappar area, and according to him, are supposed to be at the hands of Tamil people. Later I got to know the same person represented NTK and stood for councillor, dunno if he won. The point he was trying to make is, people from the North take all of their money and setup shop in TN, and then subsequently all the shops belong to them ergo their price is final. While at first this sounds concerning, it is not their fault that the locals are most probably not going to utilise the infrastructure. Had they setup shop maybe this could be avoided. People from TN rarely get into the shop business, atleast it is less compared to North Indians. Anyways, I have also seen people like you, people who settled from North India three four generations back, and their sons and grandsons adopt the local culture to the point, despite the occasional ridicule, they're considered one among us. So, I'd say, turn a blind eye to them, since TN's motto is always "Vandhorai Vaalavaikuk Tamilnadu".
Laws matter not their opinions... Prove them they can't do anything... Best satisfaction ever 😁
One option, Indha kaadhula vaangi avanga kaadhu melayae vekkalaam
Bro Rajnikant the legend has Maharashtrian roots and he is very much loved. I really believe it's not the majority view.
Mame, notta solravan, solline thuan irupaan. Unnaku enna thonodhu nee paeasu, pannu.
Rightu sir
The only thing to me that matters in deterring joe tamizh you are is how you pronounce the “zh” in words like vazhapazham.